How Olivia Rodrigo BROKE Pop Music

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024

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  • @SongwriterSanctuary
    @SongwriterSanctuary  5 месяцев назад +6

    What other Olivia Rodrigo songs should I analyze?

    • @DifficultNerd
      @DifficultNerd 5 месяцев назад +1

      Bad Idea Right - Guts is a truly underrated album.

    • @Justinjale
      @Justinjale 5 месяцев назад +1

      The Grudge because we also don't know who the song is about

    • @vgolf10
      @vgolf10 5 месяцев назад

      @@Justinjalefor the grudge, the very very last chord of the song. i’m curious to muscian’s thoughts on the way she ended the chord it sounds like it is resolved, like she came to terms with “the grudge”. because many of olivia’s songs she ends with the unresolved chord. the way the lyrics is open ended but the chord progression resolved - it’s brilliant, to me (or i am over thinking lol)

    • @maartendj2724
      @maartendj2724 5 месяцев назад

      Can't catch me now, maybe 1 step forward and 3 steps back (time signature change)

    • @crapweasel17
      @crapweasel17 5 месяцев назад

      Teenage Dream

  • @TheMister123
    @TheMister123 5 месяцев назад +11

    Between this song and "Willow", it seems you really like parallel fifths. 🙂 III-IV in this one, the whole vi-V-IV thing in "Willow"...

    • @SongwriterSanctuary
      @SongwriterSanctuary  5 месяцев назад +1

      LOL great observation! I think that's probably coincidence 😂

    • @sparkle1336
      @sparkle1336 5 месяцев назад

      taylor swift?

    • @TheMister123
      @TheMister123 5 месяцев назад

      @@sparkle1336 Yes, his previous video was about that song.

  • @maartendj2724
    @maartendj2724 5 месяцев назад +13

    Obligatory mention that the chord progression in the verse has been done before by the Hollies, Radiohead and Lana Del Rey. I love Olivia Rodrigo but credit where credit is due

    • @SongwriterSanctuary
      @SongwriterSanctuary  5 месяцев назад +8

      Yes, absolutely! That’s going to be the case with pretty much any chord progression, save for obscure jazz progressions. There’s really no such thing as a “new” chord progression. What I appreciate about this song is that it’s the most “modern pop” version of it- Radiohead and Lana Del Ray are known for being “weird” with their music in a way Olivia Rodrigo is not, so it’s cool to see her use that progression!

    • @t2dev
      @t2dev 5 месяцев назад +3

      There is no due credit to Hollies, Lana or Radiohead. Well... He did mention that it was an unusual progression (in pop). He didn't say unique or that she owned it, as chord progressions are such - just progressions. In fact, if you go further you can see this relative multipolar tonality in even earlier songs from Bowie and Beatles; then even further in classical music. So maybe all of them owe whatever something to the Beatles, Bowie and classical. Also, ii-V-I progression is standard in jazz.

  • @LilGigi222
    @LilGigi222 5 месяцев назад +4

    Wowwwww you are a whole professional musician and RUclipsr now! So glad you’re doing what you love. This video is so well done and thoughtful.

    • @SongwriterSanctuary
      @SongwriterSanctuary  5 месяцев назад

      Ahhhh thank you so much! Means so much coming from you!!

  • @vgolf10
    @vgolf10 5 месяцев назад +3

    i love vampire, i really admire her and Dan for being able to keep building up the song with the arrangement as it goes. i think it’s actually something that’s difficult to pull off well. also it kinda serves as a good transition from her debut album to this one since Sour was mostly ballads. so as a first single to Guts, it sort of paints the picture for what’s to come. I think Olivia’s songwriting is brilliant and love that she is so raw with her music.
    I am curious to your thoughts though about how some people say this song’s chord progressions is too similar to Radiohead’s Creep. would love to hear your feedback.

    • @SongwriterSanctuary
      @SongwriterSanctuary  5 месяцев назад +3

      Good point- I didn't actually know about the "Creep" thing! The chord progression is for SURE the same as the verse of "Vampire".
      I guess I have two thoughts: First, Radiohead were notorious for trying to do "weird" things with their songs- including their chord progressions- and even their more popular songs like "Creep" fit that bill. It's fascinating to see Olivia Rodrigo take the same chord progression and use it in a much more "radio friendly" way (she's a much more straightforward pop artist than Radiohead).
      My other thought is that "Creep" uses that chord progression for the ENTIRE song, and "Vampire" ONLY uses it for the verse, and has a lot more diversity in the chorus and bridge. I also disagree with the point that the progressions are "too similar"... because that's like saying "Don't Stop Believin", "Can You Feel The Love Tonight", "She Will Be Loved", "Land Down Under", "Hey Soul Sister", all had progressions that were too similar... (and I can go on, and on, and on.) There are only so many chord progressions that actually sound GOOD without venturing too far into the territory of more advanced (jazz) music theory. It's not about the similarity of the progression; it's all about what you do with it!

    • @vgolf10
      @vgolf10 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@SongwriterSanctuarythank you for your insights! yeah, i totally agree! also thanks for your detailed explanations here and the video on the chord progressions, i learned a lot!

    • @SongwriterSanctuary
      @SongwriterSanctuary  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@vgolf10Of course!! Thank you for watching- I'm glad you're getting something out of it!

  • @thegoatriderfromthesands2646
    @thegoatriderfromthesands2646 5 месяцев назад +1

    Their aren't many names that break pop, like Olivia Rodrigo when it comes to young girls dealing with relationships. Dua Lipa making dance bops and Billie Eilish speaks to our really demented up souls.

  • @michaelvogel3443
    @michaelvogel3443 4 месяца назад

    I love it when smart people give Olivia her props. She's so talented! I look forward to what she and Dan have planned for the future!

  • @LilGigi222
    @LilGigi222 5 месяцев назад +2

    Genius editing here.

  • @xblth-iv8se
    @xblth-iv8se 5 месяцев назад +2

    Have a feeling this is gonna go big

  • @TheMister123
    @TheMister123 5 месяцев назад

    Peter Hammill of Van der Graaf Generator wrote a song called "Energy Vampires" about toxic fans, back in 1978. And he wasn't even that famous. Look up the lyrics, it has a similar vibe. 🙂

  • @abrahamtiro6498
    @abrahamtiro6498 5 месяцев назад +1

    what a beautiful video (:

  • @ParamotorSteve
    @ParamotorSteve 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for pointing out how bland and unoriginal much of today's music has become. For much of popular music today, the writers are writing songs that sound familiar to capitalize on people's love of familiarity. The problem with that is everything sounds the same. Thankfully there are still some musicians who choose to write songs with different and uncommon chord progressions.

  • @DifficultNerd
    @DifficultNerd 5 месяцев назад +1

    Konnor, you can play something fierce, boy :)

  • @TheMister123
    @TheMister123 5 месяцев назад

    Also, the movement from IV to iv is interesting >because< we just came from the III. Every note had just shifted a half-step, but then the third drops back down to where it just was in the III. And the whole thing together offers a bit of a compact line cliché in that 5-b6-6-b6-5 oscillation. (Of course, this also occurs when the III goes to vi instead of IV.)

    • @TheMister123
      @TheMister123 5 месяцев назад

      Oh, it occured to me that that 5-b6-6-b6-5 bit also is a bit like the old Batman theme, or James Bond. 🙂

    • @SongwriterSanctuary
      @SongwriterSanctuary  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheMister123LOL yes it's like the inverse of the Batman theme 😂

    • @SongwriterSanctuary
      @SongwriterSanctuary  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah for sure, I didn't have time in the video to talk about the chromatic movement in the melody (and it might be a little advanced for a video like this) but it's part of the brilliance of it! I love how at the end of the chorus, she hits the 6 on "blood" and then the b6 on "fame". It's a really nice touch that pays homage to that cadence.

    • @Andy-gp4zv
      @Andy-gp4zv 5 месяцев назад +1

      Good points, BUT that chord progression is quite common in pop music, most notably Radiohead's creep. I actually think some of the other songs on this album are way more inventive and unusual, and frankly more interesting, than Vampire.

    • @SongwriterSanctuary
      @SongwriterSanctuary  5 месяцев назад

      @@Andy-gp4zvYeah, I addressed the similarities to Creep in another comment! Let me copy & paste it here:
      I guess I have two thoughts: First, Radiohead were notorious for trying to do "weird" things with their songs- including their chord progressions- and even their more popular songs like "Creep" fit that bill. It's fascinating to see Olivia Rodrigo take the same chord progression and use it in a much more "radio friendly" way (she's a much more straightforward pop artist than Radiohead).
      My other thought is that "Creep" uses that chord progression for the ENTIRE song, and "Vampire" ONLY uses it for the verse, and has a lot more diversity in the chorus and bridge. I also disagree with the point that the progressions are "too similar"... because that's like saying "Don't Stop Believin", "Can You Feel The Love Tonight", "She Will Be Loved", "Land Down Under", "Hey Soul Sister", all had progressions that were too similar... (and I can go on, and on, and on.) There are only so many chord progressions that actually sound GOOD without venturing too far into the territory of more advanced (jazz) music theory. It's not about the similarity of the progression; it's all about what you do with it!

  • @LilGigi222
    @LilGigi222 5 месяцев назад

    You love a rock operatic element.

  • @jerryfoust3860
    @jerryfoust3860 5 месяцев назад

    A lot like Taylor Swift