my truth is i'm glad we're seeing a lot more of ashley carman. she gets to the point, without wasting time and stays on topic so i actually get value from her pieces. she does a good job.
I think manufacturers should trick the battery level indicator, so that 100% showed on the phone means 80%, and 0% means 30%. Aaaand it means battery life has to improve so we don't notice the change. And voilà, problem solved! Right?
I used to charge my phone overnight and it swells up, after replacing it I never charge it overnight and it’s still working pretty well after 2.5 years
@@TheSami5963 Simply charge your phone to your convenience (including overnight), because batteries deterioration is unavoidable and its meant to be used.
I used to unplug mine and wake my wife up to remind her to unplug her phone too in the middle of the night when they reached about 90%. So we were all good back then! To the present; Divorce proceedings are going well BTW! 👌🏻
DarkPa1adin you are right, i leave it for 5 minutes after it goes to 100, because if i plug it out right away, after 2 minutes it will go to 99, even if it is at 100 and says fully charged.
Kapil Deshmukh i don't think my phone heats up after overnight charge... When it reaches 100% the phone cools down bcs it stop charging... I always pick up my phone stone cold in the morning after an overnight charge... (i turn off the phone)
Kevin L you are right, mine never gets heated up as well. Honestly it doesn't matter where you stay as far as you are in the prescribed usage range of temperature.
Kapil Deshmukh thats why I say I do an overnight charge while the phone is off... Your phone doesnt need to maintain the state of charge if it doesn't use any and it stays cool
I've been working in the repair industry for 3 years now. The people that have the most power / battery issues are the ones that keep their phones plugged in all the time. Most commonly you'll see swollen batteries, batteries that don't hold a charge, batteries that have erratic charge levels, and phones that just won't charge anymore. Sometimes it's the battery that won't charge, sometimes the power management / charging circuit takes damage. While phones are getting better and better with charging and power efficiency, it's best not to put current batteries to the test on how much you can charge them. Lithium Ion batteries typically see a life of around 3 years with regular usage until you notice an exponential falloff in performance. 30-80% in my opinion is the sweet spot of batteries. Don't keep them at 100% for extended periods and don't let them hit 0% and stay at 0% for extended periods and you'll have a happy battery. I've had cases where loved ones are in the hospital for weeks or months and they use their phone plugged in for the entirety of the time. Sure enough, their phone barely stays on after it's unplugged or it finally stops charging. Either way, the information in the video is pretty accurate. Be nice to your battery and it will thank you. (Unless it was poorly designed... **Cough** Note 7)
I thought (or actually heard from some other sources) that phones and personal electronics won't let you charge them to the real "100%". Because that does create a irreversible state of the lithium-ion reaction. So when your phone says "100%", it's not actually "100%". Maybe it's 90 or something. Same goes to 0%. Your phone will never shutdown till the actual 0% cause you won't be able to charge that battery anymore.
This. I was gonna post the same thing. Ever wonder why your phone stays at "100%" for a while after you unplug it and then suddenly drops to 95%? It was never at 100%, and if phones didn't charge to a true 100%, consumers would go apeshit because their phones are faulty.
Yes, I remember reading something like that as well, and I do believe that is correct! Back in the days when I originally got my first smartphone, the Google/Samsung Nexus S, I think it always displayed the measured battery charge, which means it would always stop charging at 97-98% and never reached 100%. Either way, I think trickle charging will normally let the battery drop a little when it's full before it starts charging again so it shold not be a problem anyway...
I know that my vape thingy would display an empty battery and stops working, but when I take the battery out and measure it, it's still at 6-10%. Because if you'd actually get a lithium-ion battery to 0%, you'd have trouble to get it charging at all again. Same could be true the other way around, and I find it weird that everyone in the video just *assumes* the OS is displaying the ACTUAL values.
Was going to comment this. In iPod era, the "100%" is actually only about 80% and one needs to charge a few more hours at 100% to get it to the real 100%. iPods also have trickle charge and slows down the charging once it reaches 80% anyway. Something I'm guessing is carried over to the iPhones as well.
I agree with the first method. Also, when it reaches 100% DO NOT disconnect it. By constantly charging and discharging, your overall battery life will get worse over time.
@@rickyjohnguittu114 yeah she contradicted herself by saying keeping your phone at 100 won't damage your battery after saying charging it to 100 degrades the electrolytes. I think what she mean't is keeping it at 100 won't instantly damage your battery like cause it to explode or be damaged for each 1% over.
@@KromeDragonsmartphones had been optimised for charging. Others think that companies innovate such technology without thinking of the charging capability
What a lovely video. Unfortunately, all my friends still says I’m stupid whenever I tell them it’s fine to overnight charge your phone, even after watching this video.
It was the problem with the nickel cadmium battery,, but Li ion batteries do have built in circuit to prevent overcharging,, but if it is overheating while charging then you should be cautious
I would only recommend going the extra mile if you plan on using your phone more than 4 years, I've had plenty of phones and never noticed, if I needed more battery life I just got a battery bank or a car charger. But at the same time you can't replace the battery in modern phones yourself so that's up to you.
or phones could be actually smart and have a slider to set how much you want as maximum charge, like teslas do, problem solved, you can leave it plugged in all day at 85%
I had a cheap Samsung netbook some years ago that let you do this. In order to prolong battery longevity, you could set it to stop charging at 80%, which is fantastic if you’re the type of user who mainly uses your computer plugged in so you don’t need the battery maxed out at 100% all the time. I’ve always wished that all devices allowed for this.
No. Some Lithium ion batteries are somewhat smart. See what they do is if you constantly unplug it at the same percent they will consider that the full charge and when that's considered full charge 85% becomes 100 to the phone
You can expect a longer life from your battery if you charge to 80% and if your allways charging to 100% you will lose capacity over the years. Li-ion batteries have a certain number of times you can charge and discharge before the battery lose capacity. Thats why ur battery messes up over the years because ur charging to 100%(4.2v). Charging to 85-90% (4.1-4.15v) you can expect a longer life without losing capacity.but i charge to 100% because i change phones every 2 years and like the extra capacity.
Considering that fast charge is a standard now (unless you use an iPhone, then you have to pay for that fast charge block and cable) you can wake up, plug in your phone, go do your morning routine, and in 30 minutes you'll be good for the day. No need to plug it in overnight.
When she said she's gonna call dan again I was thinking that eventually they will go on a conference call and keep yelling at each other "You think your smarter than me, M gonna overcharge your ass up" 😂😂😂😂😂
Someone says overcharging doesn't hurt the phone's battery but someone says charge always charge between 20 to 80, someone says 40 to 80, someone says 30 to 90. WTF
I never charged my phone overnight. I charge my phone to 800% and I use it until I notice it gets down to about 25 30% then I plug it in and I let it charge fully again to 100. I do plug my phone in why I am watching RUclips videos or if I'm really active on it. I've had my phone for over 2 years and I have not had a battery problem as of right now. Sorry this was so long I just wanted to put my thoughts out there. Thank you for taking time to make this video
You can leave it charging overnight. But. One important thing. When you charge a Li-Ion battery, it's maximum capacity lowers each time. The longer you keep charging it, the more damage is done. If you keep charging it every night, the damage caused will be around 4-5 times more than normally. Of course, nobody is stopping you, but do you really want to spend some money on another battery when you could have just preserved its life?
I've always thought it didn't matter much unless you keep your smartphone for more than 2 years. I personally always keep it at 100% because I like to be prepared in case something happens and I need to leave my house for a good part of the day.
its 5am and imma end up sleeping until like 3pm, but im really paranoid so i got anxious that if i left it charging for 8 hours and its currently at 68% and since my phone charges rlly quickly i always feel like its gonna explode or sumn, i meannn.....
This is true for a lot of electronic devices. However, even some new devices, particularly ones with very small battery, like in wireless headphones, can have their battery health very negatively affected by overcharging.
I always charge my phone to 99% just to stare at the percentage and mentally torture myself seeing the battery not fully charge. Then fall asleep in fear. Wake up feeling so sleepless. Charge the battery up to 99 again and go to work. Or sometimes when I wanna do this I charge it to full instead. Then wait impatiently for it to hit 99 again.
I've asked Apple about charging my battery overnight and they said the same thing as what Daniel Steingart said. They said it's about the cycle of the battery. It doesnt matter wether I drain it or charge it when it's down at 50%. Once it reaches 100% and you unplugged it, that means it is counted as 1 cycle. Keep it plugged. You can do this on your mac as well.
This was the most pleasantly performed tech video I've ever watched on RUclips. I can't actually explain why but that delivery is so pleasantly calm that it makes it more engaging. It felt like i was back in elementary school and ms. Soulheim was helping me with cell phones tech rather than cursive handwriting.... 10/10
So i was traveling this one time, so i had to prepare about the battery. I plugged it in at every chance I got at the hotel, even though it was still at a high percentage, and I had an episode of my phone overheating. The battery drains so so fast that made me keep it in a refrigerator for a minute. I’m not sure if it has nothing to do with me overcharging it tho.
Oh my god. I was waiting for answers and I stumbled apon this video. Thank you, The Verge. I hope you reach 3 mil subs and keep up the good work. I love how you only explained what the title was instead of giving random facts. You are the most helpful YTber I know. Thanks again😊
I always thought when you leave your phone plugged in, it smartly stops charging at 100% but when it hits 99 it draws more power to charge it back up to 100% which creates more charge/discharge cycles and from what I've heard you lose a decent chunk of battery life around every 500 cycles. Although maybe a cycle is only in that 30% - 80% safe zone and once you're over that it doesn't matter.
Sony's phones have Qunova charging method. They charge the phone to 90% the normal way and then charge slowly to 100%. The Ai also keeps track of your battery charging routine to help improve battery life overtime.
Killing the battery also causes loss in capacity. Each time it dies it looses some Capacity. I’ve experienced battery degradation In my iPad Mini 2 after letting it die and in separate occasions, charging it over night as well as keeping it plugged in after it reached 100%. That’s why I never charge things over night, I always unplug things the second they reach 100%, I always turn things off at night.
If you search on google image. The problem occurs when you're unlucky getting a defective battery inside your phone. So many exploded battery issues that harms the users while using and charging it or leaving it 100%
This is the type of youtuber I like. Straight to the point and not some 3 minutes ads and telling you how to win a giftcard giveaway. Keep up the good work 😁
I heard that when it reaches to 100% it stops, then recharges again at 99%. This cycle degrades the battery over time. So yeah use it up to 30-40% then charge it to 80-100% then make sure you unplug it.
Hmm... most newer phones use a feature called “trickle charging” and they don’t have the memory of effects (voltage depression) of older batteries. When it reaches 100%, it stops the charging and when it falls below a certain threshold, it starts charging to keep it fully charged. You can’t “overcharge” your phone...
The battery reading that you see is not all that accurate. Phones don't actually charge the battery to 100% (and never fully discharge to 0%), because as the second person said it has side effects. Modern phones and batteries have safeguards in place, so just don't worry about it!
You've kind of missed an important point that's crucial to this discussion: When the gauge on the screen says "100%" how much is your battery really charged? As someone who rides around on top of a 22 KWh battery, I know that when my car says it's 100% charged the batteries themselves are actually charged to around 85% - they never go beyond that to preserve the battery life. Same thing when it's close to empty - apparently there's still about a 10% charge left in the cells because running them down to zero is very damaging. So I really only have about 80% of my battery's rated capacity available for use; manufacturers do this to extend the lifetime of the battery. It's a bit different for mobile phone batteries. Most users don't expect to keep their phones for ten or more years and as a result manufacturers tend to use more of the battery capacity; talk time and battery life are big selling points on phones. Even still, "100%" may not really mean "the battery is as charged as possible" but instead it's more like "as high as our power management system wants to charge the battery"
I’ve been watching Pocketnow for like 4 years and just stumbled upon this channel. I wish I could replace the 4 years of BS I was watching with this awesome content!
Actually it's somewhere in between 16% and 84% depending on your phone, you can check this by going into your battery settings and seeing where your phone charges the fastest this is the safe zone. And the bad chemical reactions just happened five times slower inside the safe zone.
I try to keep my battery between 30-90% for my day to day use. I've wireless chargers everywhere (home/car/office) to keep me stress free with minimal effort (no cable plug/unplug). When battery goes below 30% it enables energy saving mode and when it goes beyond 90% I get a notification on the Gear S3 (using custom alarms on 3C Battery Monitor PRO). This tells me when I should take action action. This is not something I stress about, just a reminder if I'm nearby my phone/charger. I charge many times during week days because but it's trivial to do it in the office when you have a wireless charger, just drop the phone on the charger instead of table when your are back to your desk from that cappuccino. The concept of not fully charging the battery is how Tesla cars work and I'm sure they wouldn't hurt range on purpose to their customers for no good reason.
+The Verge 1:09 I was about to slam so hard on you guys, but then you showed this [80%-30%]* charge graph. This is very correct, how i know about this is. I saw a *nextgen* startup E-bike company make a video about this. They tested a lot of method's how to make battery capacity to be around the same after 100+ charges. Because they lose capacity after charging cycles. And the conclusion after months of testing on different battery types and models was. That you need to max charge them about 80% and, minimal discharge should be around 20%. This would cause less degradation on the battery cells while charging/discharging. *And charging on a low and steady voltage/ampere is another good thing! Fast charging causes the battery to heat up very fast, and is a big degradation hit on the cells after many times of doing so.* Well all big company's have software in place to protect battery's from overcharging/discharging. Some have the smart limitation build in that does the [80%-30%] charge/discharge limits. The phone will show 100%-0% but it really is 80% charged or 20% discharged. Batteries have always been a BIG factor for phones, but companies don't like to talk about them. I think this is about to change with nextgen phones from the top 3 phone companies. AKA "Graphene Battery's".
Well all big company's have software in place to protect battery's from overcharging/discharging. Some have the smart limitation build in that does the [80%-30%] charge/discharge limits. The phone will show 100%-0% but it really is 80% charged or 20% discharged.
XDA has an app for rooted phones which allow the charge to remain within the range (even when plugged in - so it stops charging when you charge overnight and reach 80%/90%)
Here’s a real world comparison if anyone is interested. Back when I had my iPhone 6 Plus I always charged it overnight every night and that’s the only time I’d charge it, besides the occasional time I’d use it excessively in one day and would need to charge it because it died. My dad got the exact same phone at the same time and I know he doesn’t always charge it every night, it would be charged throughout the day and he’d unplug when it’s full whenever he could and whenever he’d plug it into his computer at anytime of the day to transfer stuff his stuff he’d leave it plugged in till 100% again. When compared our phones a few months back after 3 years of use my phone’s battery is in better condition than his. My phone is somewhere around 87% of it’s original capacity and his phone is under 80%. I know it’s not an 100% accurate comparison because our use cases were different, he takes a lot of photos for work most days of the week where as not so much with my phone, that tends to heat up the battery, but we generally use our phones differently. But we do charge our phones differently and that’s the conclusion after about 3 years.
Good to hear both sides of the argument. Just mildly irked by Ashley's closing statement that we can all just "swap out the batteries on our phones". Smartphones have had non-replaceable batteries for years now; it's one of the leading ways OEMs us to swap our phones out after 2 years.
Mobile phones have protector for overcharging, but it can also break down which leads to over current frying the circuits, which also leads to battery getting damage, remember the samsung note 7,
Note 4 is the greatest phone ever. I have it for four years now. On my 2nd battery ($25 OEM samsung battery). Never have to worry about killing my battery like modern phones.
my truth is i'm glad we're seeing a lot more of ashley carman. she gets to the point, without wasting time and stays on topic so i actually get value from her pieces. she does a good job.
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I like her because shes a KWEEN
fidelio Exactly my Opinion, I think she's much better than Lauren. Lauren can be so annoying...
so right, i also listern to the verge podcast shes in called why u pushed that button. so awesome.
My OCD could never survive unplugging a phone at 90 percent
Same
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Me too
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99 % is hell for me alrdy ahhaha
I like to live dangerously, so I always keep it at 100%.... On my Note 7
Lol
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We got a badass over here.
Notice how they haven't responded to any of our comments yet...
0:35 did you see her phone case?!?!😂
Do you charge your phone all the way to 100%?
The Verge does use phone while charging is bad for your phone?
yass
Sometimes But mostly i charge it up around 80%
I think manufacturers should trick the battery level indicator, so that 100% showed on the phone means 80%, and 0% means 30%.
Aaaand it means battery life has to improve so we don't notice the change.
And voilà, problem solved! Right?
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I used to charge my phone overnight and it swells up, after replacing it I never charge it overnight and it’s still working pretty well after 2.5 years
*watching this video at 2% charge*
Spike I’m at 3%
@@jayden2592mine's 69
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Simply concise, to the point, I love these videos
Shubhang sharma not really, i still don’t know which is better .
@@TheSami5963 Simply charge your phone to your convenience (including overnight), because batteries deterioration is unavoidable and its meant to be used.
I used to unplug mine and wake my wife up to remind her to unplug her phone too in the middle of the night when they reached about 90%. So we were all good back then! To the present; Divorce proceedings are going well BTW! 👌🏻
Phil de Scossa lol
What a loser 🤣😒
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armando Nk poor guys getting a divorce and your calling him a loser? Sad
WE...WANT...MORE...ASHLEY!!!
Nope.
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Been doing the 90-20 with my phones for the last 3 or so years, but it's always good to see people busting these battery myths!
Glad that's cleared up, Great Job!
I always charge my phone till 100% 💯
Mobile Worm and I leave it charged for a while longer at 100%. There is a significant improvement compared to plugging it out straight away
Throw your phone
DarkPa1adin you are right, i leave it for 5 minutes after it goes to 100, because if i plug it out right away, after 2 minutes it will go to 99, even if it is at 100 and says fully charged.
Mobile Worm don’t to that bro
I used to do that...
Now my phone dies at 98% no joke 🙌🏽🤞🏽
@@lehlogonololeshabane7435 u lying
Don't mind me I'm just watching this video on my *Overcharged* Phone
Does the phone consume electricity when at 100% and chargin?? If yes, 3 billion people charging it overnight cause a lot of electricity .
Ah thats just about 120MWh if they all charge at 5W for 8 hours. You only Need about 5 Offshore Wind turbines to Power that. So really No big Deal
Kapil Deshmukh i don't think my phone heats up after overnight charge... When it reaches 100% the phone cools down bcs it stop charging... I always pick up my phone stone cold in the morning after an overnight charge... (i turn off the phone)
Kevin L you are right, mine never gets heated up as well. Honestly it doesn't matter where you stay as far as you are in the prescribed usage range of temperature.
Kapil Deshmukh thats why I say I do an overnight charge while the phone is off... Your phone doesnt need to maintain the state of charge if it doesn't use any and it stays cool
No, the software recognizes that the phone is at 100% and cuts power to it... you would’ve had that question answered if you watched the video.
I've been working in the repair industry for 3 years now.
The people that have the most power / battery issues are the ones that keep their phones plugged in all the time. Most commonly you'll see swollen batteries, batteries that don't hold a charge, batteries that have erratic charge levels, and phones that just won't charge anymore. Sometimes it's the battery that won't charge, sometimes the power management / charging circuit takes damage.
While phones are getting better and better with charging and power efficiency, it's best not to put current batteries to the test on how much you can charge them.
Lithium Ion batteries typically see a life of around 3 years with regular usage until you notice an exponential falloff in performance.
30-80% in my opinion is the sweet spot of batteries.
Don't keep them at 100% for extended periods and don't let them hit 0% and stay at 0% for extended periods and you'll have a happy battery.
I've had cases where loved ones are in the hospital for weeks or months and they use their phone plugged in for the entirety of the time. Sure enough, their phone barely stays on after it's unplugged or it finally stops charging.
Either way, the information in the video is pretty accurate.
Be nice to your battery and it will thank you.
(Unless it was poorly designed... **Cough** Note 7)
I thought (or actually heard from some other sources) that phones and personal electronics won't let you charge them to the real "100%". Because that does create a irreversible state of the lithium-ion reaction. So when your phone says "100%", it's not actually "100%". Maybe it's 90 or something. Same goes to 0%. Your phone will never shutdown till the actual 0% cause you won't be able to charge that battery anymore.
This. I was gonna post the same thing. Ever wonder why your phone stays at "100%" for a while after you unplug it and then suddenly drops to 95%? It was never at 100%, and if phones didn't charge to a true 100%, consumers would go apeshit because their phones are faulty.
Yes, I remember reading something like that as well, and I do believe that is correct! Back in the days when I originally got my first smartphone, the Google/Samsung Nexus S, I think it always displayed the measured battery charge, which means it would always stop charging at 97-98% and never reached 100%.
Either way, I think trickle charging will normally let the battery drop a little when it's full before it starts charging again so it shold not be a problem anyway...
I know that my vape thingy would display an empty battery and stops working, but when I take the battery out and measure it, it's still at 6-10%. Because if you'd actually get a lithium-ion battery to 0%, you'd have trouble to get it charging at all again. Same could be true the other way around, and I find it weird that everyone in the video just *assumes* the OS is displaying the ACTUAL values.
Was going to comment this. In iPod era, the "100%" is actually only about 80% and one needs to charge a few more hours at 100% to get it to the real 100%. iPods also have trickle charge and slows down the charging once it reaches 80% anyway. Something I'm guessing is carried over to the iPhones as well.
yep, you are right. @theverge can easily test this too by using multitester
I agree with the first method. Also, when it reaches 100% DO NOT disconnect it. By constantly charging and discharging, your overall battery life will get worse over time.
I don’t disconnect it, unless I’m going somewhere’s or I want watch RUclips videos. I want get comfortable watching them.
So basically this video neither confirms nor debunk the caption.. 🤔🤔 so what was the essence of this video anyway?? Just thinking out loud here
I think it does. The video concludes: overcharging degrades the battery, but most people shouldn't care. (edited for clarity)
Yahh right. useless
You damn right jones :v
@@rickyjohnguittu114 yeah she contradicted herself by saying keeping your phone at 100 won't damage your battery after saying charging it to 100 degrades the electrolytes. I think what she mean't is keeping it at 100 won't instantly damage your battery like cause it to explode or be damaged for each 1% over.
@@KromeDragonsmartphones had been optimised for charging. Others think that companies innovate such technology without thinking of the charging capability
Awesome vid, straight to the point, didn't waste any of my time.
"Go live your truth, keep it 100"
Prima Cipta Pratama worst part of the video.
100 likes🤣
What a lovely video. Unfortunately, all my friends still says I’m stupid whenever I tell them it’s fine to overnight charge your phone, even after watching this video.
When I bought my new phone I only charged it during the day as I was terrified I was gonna ruin the battery over night! 😬
Me too!! My old phones battery was rubbish and i used to charge it over night all the time!!
It was the problem with the nickel cadmium battery,, but Li ion batteries do have built in circuit to prevent overcharging,, but if it is overheating while charging then you should be cautious
i usually charge once i get home then turn off
Science with Katie don't worry the only way you can damage your battery is if you "overcharge" it all the time...
You are doing just fine. This way you will have a long lasting battery life.
I would only recommend going the extra mile if you plan on using your phone more than 4 years, I've had plenty of phones and never noticed, if I needed more battery life I just got a battery bank or a car charger.
But at the same time you can't replace the battery in modern phones yourself so that's up to you.
or phones could be actually smart and have a slider to set how much you want as maximum charge, like teslas do, problem solved, you can leave it plugged in all day at 85%
EspHack uhh, I don't think that's even convenient in my opinion, and if it is why?
pretty sure you can do this on accubattery on android if you actually care
This works great if you're rooted: forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-battery-charge-limit-t3557002/
I had a cheap Samsung netbook some years ago that let you do this. In order to prolong battery longevity, you could set it to stop charging at 80%, which is fantastic if you’re the type of user who mainly uses your computer plugged in so you don’t need the battery maxed out at 100% all the time. I’ve always wished that all devices allowed for this.
No. Some Lithium ion batteries are somewhat smart. See what they do is if you constantly unplug it at the same percent they will consider that the full charge and when that's considered full charge 85% becomes 100 to the phone
I’m still confused cuz I usually overcharge like my phone is on charge all day even if it’s at 100
I like these type of new informative videos from Verge.👍
"Go live your truth, keep it 100" Sounds familiar
love the Verge's videos...Simple but clear-cut answers and least bullshit out-of-contest stuff delivered to the audience.
You can expect a longer life from your battery if you charge to 80% and if your allways charging to 100% you will lose capacity over the years. Li-ion batteries have a certain number of times you can charge and discharge before the battery lose capacity. Thats why ur battery messes up over the years because ur charging to 100%(4.2v). Charging to 85-90% (4.1-4.15v) you can expect a longer life without losing capacity.but i charge to 100% because i change phones every 2 years and like the extra capacity.
Hell yea Ashley
Cameron L dude chill out and stfu
Considering that fast charge is a standard now (unless you use an iPhone, then you have to pay for that fast charge block and cable) you can wake up, plug in your phone, go do your morning routine, and in 30 minutes you'll be good for the day. No need to plug it in overnight.
When she said she's gonna call dan again I was thinking that eventually they will go on a conference call and keep yelling at each other "You think your smarter than me, M gonna overcharge your ass up" 😂😂😂😂😂
Someone says overcharging doesn't hurt the phone's battery but someone says charge always charge between 20 to 80, someone says 40 to 80, someone says 30 to 90. WTF
I like these videos! Quick answers to questions everyone has
I never charged my phone overnight. I charge my phone to 800% and I use it until I notice it gets down to about 25 30% then I plug it in and I let it charge fully again to 100. I do plug my phone in why I am watching RUclips videos or if I'm really active on it. I've had my phone for over 2 years and I have not had a battery problem as of right now. Sorry this was so long I just wanted to put my thoughts out there. Thank you for taking time to make this video
These videos are super helpful! Simple and straight to the point
You can leave it charging overnight. But. One important thing.
When you charge a Li-Ion battery, it's maximum capacity lowers each time. The longer you keep charging it, the more damage is done. If you keep charging it every night, the damage caused will be around 4-5 times more than normally.
Of course, nobody is stopping you, but do you really want to spend some money on another battery when you could have just preserved its life?
I've always thought it didn't matter much unless you keep your smartphone for more than 2 years. I personally always keep it at 100% because I like to be prepared in case something happens and I need to leave my house for a good part of the day.
How many of you visited comments box to confirm that she is right or wrong?
Always been wondering is it ok to leave smartphones charge over night , now you guys answer my question. Thanks!
00:30 who else plugged his/her phone in immediately?
01:10 Who unplugged?
I love that case/stand! So cute. Great info! Thank you
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"Go live your truth". Love it. Nice work!
I always keep my battery at 80, or at least try to. Use accubattery that keep track of all my charging and notify me when it's at 80% (Android).
its 5am and imma end up sleeping until like 3pm, but im really paranoid so i got anxious that if i left it charging for 8 hours and its currently at 68% and since my phone charges rlly quickly i always feel like its gonna explode or sumn, i meannn.....
Thats how a video should be. Short and accurate. Loved it ❤️
This is true for a lot of electronic devices. However, even some new devices, particularly ones with very small battery, like in wireless headphones, can have their battery health very negatively affected by overcharging.
I always charge my phone to 99% just to stare at the percentage and mentally torture myself seeing the battery not fully charge. Then fall asleep in fear. Wake up feeling so sleepless. Charge the battery up to 99 again and go to work.
Or sometimes when I wanna do this I charge it to full instead. Then wait impatiently for it to hit 99 again.
I've asked Apple about charging my battery overnight and they said the same thing as what Daniel Steingart said. They said it's about the cycle of the battery. It doesnt matter wether I drain it or charge it when it's down at 50%. Once it reaches 100% and you unplugged it, that means it is counted as 1 cycle. Keep it plugged. You can do this on your mac as well.
Awesome video :)) I love it 😍
You know, you go straight to the point and this is great 👍
This was the most pleasantly performed tech video I've ever watched on RUclips. I can't actually explain why but that delivery is so pleasantly calm that it makes it more engaging. It felt like i was back in elementary school and ms. Soulheim was helping me with cell phones tech rather than cursive handwriting.... 10/10
What about using your phone while it’s plugged in charging? I’ve always wondered if that damaged the battery life
Of course it degrades the battery while using it in charging
So i was traveling this one time, so i had to prepare about the battery. I plugged it in at every chance I got at the hotel, even though it was still at a high percentage, and I had an episode of my phone overheating.
The battery drains so so fast that made me keep it in a refrigerator for a minute.
I’m not sure if it has nothing to do with me overcharging it tho.
since I have LG G5 and the battery is modular/replaceable, I don't mind to harm and kill my battery, just go to LG store and spend $15 for a new one.
Oh my god. I was waiting for answers and I stumbled apon this video. Thank you, The Verge. I hope you reach 3 mil subs and keep up the good work. I love how you only explained what the title was instead of giving random facts. You are the most helpful YTber I know. Thanks again😊
Nice informative video
I just charge mine in the morning while I’m getting ready. I have a OnePlus so it’s fully charged in just over an hour!
I always thought when you leave your phone plugged in, it smartly stops charging at 100% but when it hits 99 it draws more power to charge it back up to 100% which creates more charge/discharge cycles and from what I've heard you lose a decent chunk of battery life around every 500 cycles. Although maybe a cycle is only in that 30% - 80% safe zone and once you're over that it doesn't matter.
Sony's phones have Qunova charging method. They charge the phone to 90% the normal way and then charge slowly to 100%. The Ai also keeps track of your battery charging routine to help improve battery life overtime.
100 all the way, over night
senthil kumar nagarajan what happen to your phone now?
Doing the lord's work, brother.
Killing the battery also causes loss in capacity. Each time it dies it looses some Capacity. I’ve experienced battery degradation In my iPad Mini 2 after letting it die and in separate occasions, charging it over night as well as keeping it plugged in after it reached 100%. That’s why I never charge things over night, I always unplug things the second they reach 100%, I always turn things off at night.
thank you for this vid, seriously
I STILL KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS VIDEO WHEN I FEEL ANXIOUS ABOUT MY PHONE'S BATTERY. LOVE YAH! 😘
This video is on point. Also I need why'd you push that button season 2 ASAP.
1:48 lil boat is that you? 🚣😂
now i got the proof to show it to my brother.. keeping phone to charge doesn't affect battery life is TRUE. thank you for the video ash.
Jazz Akhil Lithium Ion batteries don’t overcharge, but I still never charge anything over night or keep them plugged in after 100% is reached.
If you search on google image. The problem occurs when you're unlucky getting a defective battery inside your phone. So many exploded battery issues that harms the users while using and charging it or leaving it 100%
This is the type of youtuber I like. Straight to the point and not some 3 minutes ads and telling you how to win a giftcard giveaway. Keep up the good work 😁
We need Android to just charge to 80% by default, and have a "boost" mode for long days that charges to the max cell voltage
I heard that when it reaches to 100% it stops, then recharges again at 99%. This cycle degrades the battery over time. So yeah use it up to 30-40% then charge it to 80-100% then make sure you unplug it.
Keep up the great work, I'll just sit here charging my phone 😊
Hmm... most newer phones use a feature called “trickle charging” and they don’t have the memory of effects (voltage depression) of older batteries. When it reaches 100%, it stops the charging and when it falls below a certain threshold, it starts charging to keep it fully charged. You can’t “overcharge” your phone...
Does it matter? We get new phones every year or two years.
wdym? my phone has been like 6 years in me?
after the explanation i still dont get it. is it ok to overcharge or not?
I already dislike regular cases and she has a bunny phone case. Oh boy!
Otherwise, good work.
The battery reading that you see is not all that accurate. Phones don't actually charge the battery to 100% (and never fully discharge to 0%), because as the second person said it has side effects. Modern phones and batteries have safeguards in place, so just don't worry about it!
Okay I got it.. I'm sick that when I always think that my battery will damage.. You saved my life.
FYI, this video that makes me subscribed you.
Omg that’s bunny case is adorable I’m crying
I’m a charging FREAK I cannot stand having my battery under 90% and sometimes under 100 I spend my life literally charging my phone 😂
I dont care if I fully charge my phone to 100 percent, its still in very good condition my 6 years phone
Same, but my mom overcharges her phone and now it doesn’t work. Lots of photos were lost😔
You've kind of missed an important point that's crucial to this discussion: When the gauge on the screen says "100%" how much is your battery really charged? As someone who rides around on top of a 22 KWh battery, I know that when my car says it's 100% charged the batteries themselves are actually charged to around 85% - they never go beyond that to preserve the battery life. Same thing when it's close to empty - apparently there's still about a 10% charge left in the cells because running them down to zero is very damaging. So I really only have about 80% of my battery's rated capacity available for use; manufacturers do this to extend the lifetime of the battery.
It's a bit different for mobile phone batteries. Most users don't expect to keep their phones for ten or more years and as a result manufacturers tend to use more of the battery capacity; talk time and battery life are big selling points on phones. Even still, "100%" may not really mean "the battery is as charged as possible" but instead it's more like "as high as our power management system wants to charge the battery"
0:20 lmao the person in the back
I’ve been watching Pocketnow for like 4 years and just stumbled upon this channel. I wish I could replace the 4 years of BS I was watching with this awesome content!
I like her work
Whoa, Thanks Verge for solving this mystery
dope video. I was actually agonizing over this a couple days ago too.
Actually it's somewhere in between 16% and 84% depending on your phone, you can check this by going into your battery settings and seeing where your phone charges the fastest this is the safe zone.
And the bad chemical reactions just happened five times slower inside the safe zone.
I always charge to 100%, because I live life to the fullest✔
I try to keep my battery between 30-90% for my day to day use. I've wireless chargers everywhere (home/car/office) to keep me stress free with minimal effort (no cable plug/unplug). When battery goes below 30% it enables energy saving mode and when it goes beyond 90% I get a notification on the Gear S3 (using custom alarms on 3C Battery Monitor PRO). This tells me when I should take action action. This is not something I stress about, just a reminder if I'm nearby my phone/charger.
I charge many times during week days because but it's trivial to do it in the office when you have a wireless charger, just drop the phone on the charger instead of table when your are back to your desk from that cappuccino.
The concept of not fully charging the battery is how Tesla cars work and I'm sure they wouldn't hurt range on purpose to their customers for no good reason.
+The Verge
1:09 I was about to slam so hard on you guys, but then you showed this [80%-30%]* charge graph.
This is very correct, how i know about this is. I saw a *nextgen* startup E-bike company make a video about this.
They tested a lot of method's how to make battery capacity to be around the same after 100+ charges. Because they lose capacity after charging cycles.
And the conclusion after months of testing on different battery types and models was. That you need to max charge them about 80% and, minimal discharge should be around 20%.
This would cause less degradation on the battery cells while charging/discharging.
*And charging on a low and steady voltage/ampere is another good thing!
Fast charging causes the battery to heat up very fast, and is a big degradation hit on the cells after many times of doing so.*
Well all big company's have software in place to protect battery's from overcharging/discharging.
Some have the smart limitation build in that does the [80%-30%] charge/discharge limits.
The phone will show 100%-0% but it really is 80% charged or 20% discharged.
Batteries have always been a BIG factor for phones, but companies don't like to talk about them.
I think this is about to change with nextgen phones from the top 3 phone companies.
AKA "Graphene Battery's".
so dont let it go above 80 and below 20?
Well all big company's have software in place to protect battery's from overcharging/discharging. Some have the smart limitation build in that does the [80%-30%] charge/discharge limits. The phone will show 100%-0% but it really is 80% charged or 20% discharged.
so to answer my question...
Nisco Racing so I leave it at 20% less just so it lasts 10% more after a couple of years? I'd rather not tbh
+VideoGameSkits
People that renew their phones each year, obviously don't care.
XDA has an app for rooted phones which allow the charge to remain within the range (even when plugged in - so it stops charging when you charge overnight and reach 80%/90%)
Very useful tips that why I watch all the facts on this RUclips channel and this is useful for me
Here’s a real world comparison if anyone is interested.
Back when I had my iPhone 6 Plus I always charged it overnight every night and that’s the only time I’d charge it, besides the occasional time I’d use it excessively in one day and would need to charge it because it died. My dad got the exact same phone at the same time and I know he doesn’t always charge it every night, it would be charged throughout the day and he’d unplug when it’s full whenever he could and whenever he’d plug it into his computer at anytime of the day to transfer stuff his stuff he’d leave it plugged in till 100% again.
When compared our phones a few months back after 3 years of use my phone’s battery is in better condition than his. My phone is somewhere around 87% of it’s original capacity and his phone is under 80%.
I know it’s not an 100% accurate comparison because our use cases were different, he takes a lot of photos for work most days of the week where as not so much with my phone, that tends to heat up the battery, but we generally use our phones differently.
But we do charge our phones differently and that’s the conclusion after about 3 years.
the good thing thing about having a 4000mAH battery is 80 percent lasts me like two days and thats with heavy usage
which phone and what settings?
Good to hear both sides of the argument. Just mildly irked by Ashley's closing statement that we can all just "swap out the batteries on our phones". Smartphones have had non-replaceable batteries for years now; it's one of the leading ways OEMs us to swap our phones out after 2 years.
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The Verge WOW! The Verge replied to my comment. I just hope you didn't used this case with the Note 7, if you used the Note 7
Mobile phones have protector for overcharging, but it can also break down which leads to over current frying the circuits, which also leads to battery getting damage, remember the samsung note 7,
Note 4 is the greatest phone ever. I have it for four years now. On my 2nd battery ($25 OEM samsung battery). Never have to worry about killing my battery like modern phones.
Ashley I'm listening to you for the first time and I think that you sound like breath of fresh air. You are great and Verge lackey to have you. Thanks
Wht can i do on this i charge my battery full night
You're phone's back cover is amazing 😃😄