It's not a reference to Mode 7. This boss was originally supposed to have 2 other forms, "Harpy Force" and "Nemesis Force", but the game was rushed to meet a deadline, so they weren't completed in time. If you check the sound effects menu, the voice samples are still there, though. Also, check the stats screen at the end of the game. It IS "Seven Force".
+Ziggy Bertoli I checked the sound effects menu in my downloaded Wii VC copy of Alien Soldier. I can't find those voice samples you mentioned. Think you could upload a vid with those samples?
Guess I should have clarified the samples are only available in the PS2 port's special menu. Nevertheless, I've taken the liberty to upload them. Enjoy. :)
No, it is a reference to Mode 7, the whole point of the original Gunstar Heroes boss was to show off that the Genesis could do sprite rotation effects without using the SNES' hardware acceleration.
@@davidcopernicuseuclidziggy699 Well, whatever the true reason was. I'm sure glad they stopped there as I feel like that would've been a bit too long of a boss fight. In fact, even in the retail release, this boss made the final one feel rather easy IMO. I don't think I can handle 7 phases without dying.
hehe, 7th Force. I was talking in a Brazilian forum and explaining how Cuphead was heavily influenced by Gunstar Heroes and that 7th Force was my favorite boss of all time. Then I went to find out if people agreed with me and I discovered that he also appeared in this game, a game I did not know. I'm going to play, it looks wonderful.
Exatamente igual a mim. Joguei muito gunstar heroes. Seven force tem a melhor boss music que ja vi no megadrive. E to em choque em saber agora que esse alien force tem isso tambem. Com remix da mesma musica O.o
lol... seeing this, I got excited because Gunstar Heroes was one of my favorite games (hell, still is) when I was younger... I tried playing this... godDAMN is this game tough.. I thought I was good at Gunstar but this game is on a completely different level haha. I'll get good at it one day.
I feel you bro, once you get past that steep learning curve though...I promise this game is a blast, this boss is actually as far as I got before taking a break to play other stuff. That 5th form is ridiculous.
That's what's actually have been preventing me from playing this game almost at all, I've tried it many times but it's so relentlessly difficult even on the first level that I dropped it almost every time, but seeing some one playing it well looks so damn amazing
Dear god. WHERE is the modern-day reboot for this game? I remember the satisfaction of finally beating this game. It was pure exultation. This game DESERVES some appreciation on modern systems. Somebody needs to wrangle the TREASURE crew back together and get them back to work on games like this.
@@retrosoul8770sadly, yes... many missed oportunities with the old SEGA and depending only on Sonic. This, Panorama Cotton, Vectorman 1-2 and Pulseman should have had worldwide releases, also thay could had done better marketing for games like Ristar and Ecco, Showing them as conplementary games to Sonic, giving impulse to the Megadrive until 97, just like Nintendo did with the SNES. If only...
Acutally, its Seven Force, not 7th. From TVTropes. "Seven Force, which only has six forms (including the human form she starts in). This is because the "Seven" is a reference to the Mode 7-style rotation effects the boss showcases, not the number of forms it has." 7 was never how many forms it had. It was awesome coincidence in Gunstar, but not this time. If you remember, 7 Force SPINS in gunstar. =D Nothing else did. Also, Mode7 is used in SNES for spinning too, like Super Mario Kart.
Not true, and interview with the creator of this game himself stated that there was suppose to be 7 forms total, in the games data. You can even find the 2 voice samples for these missing forms. They weren't included due to the poor guy facing time constraints and being force to get the game out a year early Than planned.
It's actually a call out to an anime robot that was called the Seven Changer, which had seven different transformations. Its initial design was known as the Five Changer (as a nod to the original Seven Changer), which then evolved into its own version of Seven Changer, then renamed Seven Force. Also, the Mega Drive could do hardware rotation, so sprites were in multiple frames to achieve its rotation effect.
It was hard to beat both in Alien Soldier and Gunstar Heroes... Treasure did awesome job on both games... i wold love to play a similar style game for actual gen consoles!
Get revenge, because he was part of the organization, and was betrayed by them (being Xi Tiger his second in comand when he was the leader). So, basically, Epsilon is a bad guy seeking redemption...
They were both made by the same game company I can understand if they used the same music for a cool boss and its so similar in the forces altho this does look cool
Valkyrie, Medusa, Sylpheed, Artemis, Sirene. That was what she was saying before "Force". Don't know if you're going to see this almost a decade later.
Isso é pra você ver o quão os caras da Treasure! Criadora de Alien Soldier, Gunstar Heroes, e muitos outros, eram verdadeiramente dedicados aos seus trabalhos, diferente de uma EA games da Vida que só pensa no dinheiro! Os caras estavam tão a frente de seu tempo que jogos como esse, Gunstar Heroes e afins eram games da época que abusavam muito da capacidade de memória dos seus cartuchos! Gunstar heroes principalmente, os gráficos eram tão frenéticos que esse era um dos poucos games do tipo que não craxavam o Mega drive devido a sua capacidades gráficas que eram muito fortes para o console aguenta sem Bugs
Pretty much justifies the 20 bucks spent on a 2018 Legends Flashback, just so I could load an sd card with a legally obtained via Steam european 60fps rom hack of Alien Soldier to play with those retro-bit style controllers. None of the two existing Sega Genesis mini's offer this, but with a Steam collection you can legally just build your own.
No, Green's Seven Force is different. Kaede's Seven Force she controlled with ESP powers. She's also a cyborg. The Alien Soldier version of Seven Force was developed by the same Sierran research laboratory that held her and all those other super-powered kids prisoner.
@SNESosT So it does have a connection, and I even played both of the games to understand the story. It's a shame about the demise of not only green but red, blue, and yellow as well in the original gunstar heroes(I dont know, i'm just guessing) and replaced with the new cast in GSH, I prefer the original cast to be honest because they kinda look more interesting, the GSH cast is decent, but not terrible either.
There was even an implication of a shared universe, especially in Gunstar Super Heroes, where they mentioned the gems originated from other worlds, including Radiant Silvergun and Guardian Heroes. That was at least two or three years before Iron Man mind you.
That's kinda a ripoff. That only had 5 forms. Isn't it called SEVEN Force? Also, I thought Alien Soldier only had two difficulties: Supereasy and Superhard.
What the hell? This music is practically the exact same thing as the Seven Force boss theme from Gunstar Heroes! And that's to say nothing of the fact it's calling this boss the same name and using forms that seem eerily similar to those from said game! Heck, the main character design reminds me of Merco from Mischief Makers and one of the moves from the initial form of the boss reminds me of a similar move from the final boss of that game. I'm not saying the game is bad. It looks like a blast. But come on. If you're going to re-use assets or ideas, try to dress them up a little better so it's not so obvious. LOL :)
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Hey, she said my name.
A boss so damn epic it needed to be in two different games.
I'm glad someone else acknowledges the epicness of Melon Bread
A boss so epic that it was in two games AND inspired other bosses
@@sekinaperkins4618 what other bosses, cuphead?
@@2F4M73 Syntax from Freedom Planet for example =)
@@BlueTarouXI see, thank you!
It's not a reference to Mode 7. This boss was originally supposed to have 2 other forms, "Harpy Force" and "Nemesis Force", but the game was rushed to meet a deadline, so they weren't completed in time. If you check the sound effects menu, the voice samples are still there, though.
Also, check the stats screen at the end of the game. It IS "Seven Force".
+Ziggy Bertoli I checked the sound effects menu in my downloaded Wii VC copy of Alien Soldier. I can't find those voice samples you mentioned. Think you could upload a vid with those samples?
Guess I should have clarified the samples are only available in the PS2 port's special menu.
Nevertheless, I've taken the liberty to upload them. Enjoy. :)
No, it is a reference to Mode 7, the whole point of the original Gunstar Heroes boss was to show off that the Genesis could do sprite rotation effects without using the SNES' hardware acceleration.
@@CruelestChris or, perhaps there's an outside chance it was called Seven Force cuz... y'know... it has seven forms? o_o
@@davidcopernicuseuclidziggy699 Well, whatever the true reason was. I'm sure glad they stopped there as I feel like that would've been a bit too long of a boss fight. In fact, even in the retail release, this boss made the final one feel rather easy IMO. I don't think I can handle 7 phases without dying.
hehe, 7th Force. I was talking in a Brazilian forum and explaining how Cuphead was heavily influenced by Gunstar Heroes and that 7th Force was my favorite boss of all time. Then I went to find out if people agreed with me and I discovered that he also appeared in this game, a game I did not know. I'm going to play, it looks wonderful.
Eu descobri ele ontem e joguei hoje ele é difícil, mas pelo o que eu joguei eu me diverti!
@@nicolascosta1349 Boa, eu ainda não joguei esse jogo, mas está na lista :D
Exatamente igual a mim.
Joguei muito gunstar heroes. Seven force tem a melhor boss music que ja vi no megadrive. E to em choque em saber agora que esse alien force tem isso tambem. Com remix da mesma musica O.o
good GOD now THIS is a mother f-ing boss fight
0:25 - Backstreet Force
1:18 - Me Gusta Force
2:08 - Selling Kid Force
2:50 - Ultimate Force
3:40 - Cherry Force
Lol
Segas muffled audio at its best.
thank you this is funny as heck.
He never had time to finish this fight with all 7 transformations but at least the final result was still quite an enjoyable experience.
She did the same thing Green did on Gunstar Heroes that's why it's call Seven Force.
lol... seeing this, I got excited because Gunstar Heroes was one of my favorite games (hell, still is) when I was younger... I tried playing this... godDAMN is this game tough.. I thought I was good at Gunstar but this game is on a completely different level haha. I'll get good at it one day.
I feel you bro, once you get past that steep learning curve though...I promise this game is a blast, this boss is actually as far as I got before taking a break to play other stuff. That 5th form is ridiculous.
That's what's actually have been preventing me from playing this game almost at all, I've tried it many times but it's so relentlessly difficult even on the first level that I dropped it almost every time, but seeing some one playing it well looks so damn amazing
jaegan64 Yes is was tough at first when I first played it. But it only gets better if you spend more time playing it. I beat it 6 or 7 times already.
This boss is so powerful it puts the Genesis on its knees.
I want to see a duel between Epsilon and Samus. That would be dope...
This is how you cross over except wheres green 💚
Dear god.
WHERE is the modern-day reboot for this game?
I remember the satisfaction of finally beating this game. It was pure exultation. This game DESERVES some appreciation on modern systems. Somebody needs to wrangle the TREASURE crew back together and get them back to work on games like this.
You can thank Sega for not giving this 2D action triumph a proper U.S. release. They were batshit dumb in the 90's.
They still are stupid if you ask me
Musashi they were the least stupid in the 90s they didn’t made garbage games like they do now.
It doesn’t need a “reboot”. It’s perfect as it is. And available on the Genesis Classics collection, on all systems including PC.
@@retrosoul8770sadly, yes... many missed oportunities with the old SEGA and depending only on Sonic.
This, Panorama Cotton, Vectorman 1-2 and Pulseman should have had worldwide releases, also thay could had done better marketing for games like Ristar and Ecco, Showing them as conplementary games to Sonic, giving impulse to the Megadrive until 97, just like Nintendo did with the SNES.
If only...
This game was hard as nails but DAMN it was good classic fun!
Acutally, its Seven Force, not 7th. From TVTropes. "Seven Force, which only has six forms (including the human form she starts in). This is because the "Seven" is a reference to the Mode 7-style rotation effects the boss showcases, not the number of forms it has." 7 was never how many forms it had. It was awesome coincidence in Gunstar, but not this time. If you remember, 7 Force SPINS in gunstar. =D Nothing else did. Also, Mode7 is used in SNES for spinning too, like Super Mario Kart.
Yeah, but in Gunstar 7 Force has actually 7 forms, also both games were made by Treasure
Comparten inclusive el mismo sountrack
Not true, and interview with the creator of this game himself stated that there was suppose to be 7 forms total, in the games data. You can even find the 2 voice samples for these missing forms.
They weren't included due to the poor guy facing time constraints and being force to get the game out a year early Than planned.
It's actually a call out to an anime robot that was called the Seven Changer, which had seven different transformations. Its initial design was known as the Five Changer (as a nod to the original Seven Changer), which then evolved into its own version of Seven Changer, then renamed Seven Force.
Also, the Mega Drive could do hardware rotation, so sprites were in multiple frames to achieve its rotation effect.
@@EightOne01out of the 7force subject: can you tell me more about megadrive festure that allows this hardware rotation?
this game is such a technical achievement for the genesis, too bad its hard as balls
You mean good thing it's hard as balls
This song sounds like the 7-Force Boss Battle from Gunstar Heroes. Relation?
Thief8Bit it is the exact same theme. Surprising ain't it?
It is! This game was made by Treasure, the creators of Gunstar Heroes!
Seven Force Kaede...!
It was hard to beat both in Alien Soldier and Gunstar Heroes... Treasure did awesome job on both games... i wold love to play a similar style game for actual gen consoles!
HUNT DOWN is a decent game similar to contra
It's in the sequel Gunstar Super Heroes for the GBA
SEVEN FORCE....
how i loved this boss
This 7th force boss is gonna take some getting used to fighting. I couldn't face off Valkyrie Force.
Treasure e seu incrível universo de jogos!
Até a Setima força existe em outras franquias de jogos além de Gunstar Heroes por ser tão icônica
What was Epsilon fighting for? That clouded his mind after this, and the poor little blue guy who got drowned in front of him.
What was his mission after beating Xi Tiger? Now that you mention it..
@@jonathanwilson1539
To finish the organization off once and for all, I guess.
Get revenge, because he was part of the organization, and was betrayed by them (being Xi Tiger his second in comand when he was the leader).
So, basically, Epsilon is a bad guy seeking redemption...
Wow great timing! :) You mastered the Seven Force
@MARCES47LETIFER
Actually, the boss was named 7 Force due to the Mode-7-like rotation used in the animation.
False, it was because in Gunstar heroes it had seven forms, as was intended for this one, only that time constraints didn't allowed that...
gunstar heroes "sequel" is on GBA but i see as a remake
I am actually shocked that Gunstar Heroes reused elements of this game!
this came out a whole two years later and was made by one of gunstar's lead programmers?
I counted Gunstar Heroes and Gunstar Super Heroes separately. The gameplay is different enough that I'd count them as different games.
memorable fight as a kid
They were both made by the same game company I can understand if they used the same music for a cool boss and its so similar in the forces altho this does look cool
this is far more epic than the Xi Wolf battle
*Xi-Tiger
Wow that was beautiful to watch.
IM GREEN....SEVEN FORCE
sorry wrong game, anyway ..seven force is awesome whatever game he is
SuperFalconZX
Man, this girl was hard as fucking shit back in the day, I remember my limit was the green flying thingy and could barely fight her cat form.
for example, it should be in a guardian heroes sequel!
Awesome game !! :-)) thanks for sharing.
L ~
Ps: Could you tell me what is she saying before "force" ? ( before each transformation).
Valkyrie, Medusa, Sylpheed, Artemis, Sirene. That was what she was saying before "Force". Don't know if you're going to see this almost a decade later.
How have I never seen this game?
@kaiserfender maybe the gunstars are moonlighting as aliens
This guy is my nemesis.
Most toughest level in this game...
I don't know how many times I had to retry this boss fight. It had to be in the hundreds.
Took me around 25 tries, most of the frustration of it still comes from that goddamn final form.
Old spice cant block odur for 16 hours
ali99 _ POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!
7 force is a love life from epsilon...
He kill that.. so bad
@GreatFox42
what about melon bread?
What, does this have connections to the gunstar series?
Its pretty big wall back in the day. Lv 20 its like months or so to finally beat her. wonder what lv 21 to 25 after this.
everything after this boss is a cakewalk in comparison, even the final boss
that boss won't just stay dead
I'll probably forget about this over time, so somebody send me a PM reminding me to rip it.
Used to play this straight to finish on hard mode. There are some hacks to get through the levels & bosses faster.
the beginning of 7ths theme reminded me of mortal kombat
O efeito deste jogo é sensacional.
Isso é pra você ver o quão os caras da Treasure! Criadora de Alien Soldier, Gunstar Heroes, e muitos outros, eram verdadeiramente dedicados aos seus trabalhos, diferente de uma EA games da Vida que só pensa no dinheiro!
Os caras estavam tão a frente de seu tempo que jogos como esse, Gunstar Heroes e afins eram games da época que abusavam muito da capacidade de memória dos seus cartuchos! Gunstar heroes principalmente, os gráficos eram tão frenéticos que esse era um dos poucos games do tipo que não craxavam o Mega drive devido a sua capacidades gráficas que eram muito fortes para o console aguenta sem Bugs
Tenho que concordar, a Treasure era a empresa que mais abusava dos consoles na época, essa galera é do car@lho
@Orochifinikusu lol no, this is just a cameo boss! don't mix both games!
Pretty much justifies the 20 bucks spent on a 2018 Legends Flashback, just so I could load an sd card with a legally obtained via Steam european 60fps rom hack of Alien Soldier to play with those retro-bit style controllers.
None of the two existing Sega Genesis mini's offer this, but with a Steam collection you can legally just build your own.
Theres any way tô damage the final Phase using only the homming flame thrower? It carry me through the game and now i can't do anything to it
There is actually: use another Force.
Awesome!
Treasure really should make alien soldier 2 and gunstar heroes 2 on wiiware. Like they did megaman 9 that i wish for. And i think they should do it.
Shit this guy is fucking pro.
Here because of that anime about the Uncle being Isekai'd during his coma.
so basically when green died, the chick found the found the 7th force some years later!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?
No, Green's Seven Force is different. Kaede's Seven Force she controlled with ESP powers. She's also a cyborg. The Alien Soldier version of Seven Force was developed by the same Sierran research laboratory that held her and all those other super-powered kids prisoner.
Eh cool boss fight but i dont get it, why does Aline soldier have the similar boss, boss name, and same 7 force theme as Gun Star heroes?
Is this Green's Theme
How you record from a mega drive please I wanna do my own Alien solider run ^^
@firstprimehunter XD good one
Three? I only know of this one and Gunstar Heroes/Gunstar Super Heroes.
A falcon with no falcon punch?
Nice. But is an Eagle...
@SNESosT
So it does have a connection, and I even played both of the games to understand the story. It's a shame about the demise of not only green but red, blue, and yellow as well in the original gunstar heroes(I dont know, i'm just guessing) and replaced with the new cast in GSH, I prefer the original cast to be honest because they kinda look more interesting, the GSH cast is decent, but not terrible either.
Mr.Showtime The original Green only died to spare his siblings from the same fate
Only counted 5 forms
Awesome
I play this game on an american Genesis, so it's funny to hear the songs at normal speed. Seriously, mines play up to 1.5 times the speed!!
0:27
1:18
2:08
2:51
3:43
Sounds like BMO from Adventure Time
so you want another boss fest game eh, well I happen to know one that’s notoriously difficult
I hate the battle under water. Too difficult
DOVEVA'?
More like FIVE Force
Three different games ;D
Crossovers before the MCU made it cool
There was even an implication of a shared universe, especially in Gunstar Super Heroes, where they mentioned the gems originated from other worlds, including Radiant Silvergun and Guardian Heroes. That was at least two or three years before Iron Man mind you.
MCU didn't invent or made nothing "cool"...is only garbage, also, nerver heard about Super robot wars??
IT'S ME DOOMFIST
@fanoultimatev3 oh!! my bad!!
Wow I suck at alien soldier it’s a great game tho
That's kinda a ripoff.
That only had 5 forms. Isn't it called SEVEN Force?
Also, I thought Alien Soldier only had two difficulties: Supereasy and Superhard.
Wait, the Seven Force is a she?
i love it when sega copys their own games
I didn't mean that the game was a ripoff. I meant that it was a ripoff to only have you fight five forms when the boss is supposed to be SEVEN FORCE.
Well, they didn't have enough time to put in two more forms for Seven Force before the game's scheduled release.
Seven Force can jump off a cliff. I hate it.
*Random woman just placed there shamelessly to hype boss*
Nope, she is Kaede, and old aquantace of Epsilon...
What the hell? This music is practically the exact same thing as the Seven Force boss theme from Gunstar Heroes! And that's to say nothing of the fact it's calling this boss the same name and using forms that seem eerily similar to those from said game!
Heck, the main character design reminds me of Merco from Mischief Makers and one of the moves from the initial form of the boss reminds me of a similar move from the final boss of that game.
I'm not saying the game is bad. It looks like a blast. But come on. If you're going to re-use assets or ideas, try to dress them up a little better so it's not so obvious. LOL :)
Sonicisbadazz It's as if Treasure made both gunstar heroes AND alien soldier, including mischief makers too.
😂😂😂😂
0:27
1:18
2:08
2:51
3:42
Sounds like BMO from Adventure Time