I see a Model 71, I watch. It's my favorite (but not most used, nor do I think it is the best) lever gun. I have an original rifle handed down from grandfather, and a Miroku made carbine I bought in the 1980s when Miroku first put them out under the "Browning" name. That is one of the most accurate rifles I own, bar none. with just a Redfield peep sight. Miroku makes a great rifle! I first used the Model 71 on a bear hunt in Quebec in 1971 (holy smokes, 50 years ago!). Killed a good size black bear very dead with one shot. I know the 150 gr. bullets can be loaded to some impressive velocities (I was always able to equal .30-06 velocities with it but never pushed it to 3100 fps) but my favorite is a Hornady 250 gr. RN bullet. I found a cache of them in a gun shop in Arizona in 1996 and bought all they had and still have a few hundred. I use mostly cast bullets for practice, but used the 250 gr. for any hunting. Thanks for the video. FWIW, I think the best lever gun ever made is the Winchester Model 1895 and my most used is a Savage Model 99, .300 Savage.
@Gary K. The .348 '71and the .300 '99 you mentioned are both great stuff. They give me visions of guys in red plaid wool chasing big game in the northern woods somewhere. Both guns and cartridges were only about 15 years apart. Makes them contemporary to a degree. Wish I had chased down some 250 grain Barnes bullets for my .348 years ago. Stuck now with my small stash of 200s. For what it's worth, I followed John Barsness load recommendations for .300 Savage. 150 grain Hornady and around 41.0 grains of IMR 4895 gave decent accuracy in one 99 I had. Have a different one in project stage now that will get fed same. I tend to like the Idea of 165s and Reloader 15 as a do all for .300 Savage. I think that weight has the greatest potential for the cartridge and it's capacity. Fast enough to do the 200 yard dash and heavy enough to punch elk or moose.
@@johnnorman7708 A lot of people like the 150-165 gr, .30 bullets. I always used the 180 gr. in my .30-06 rifles and decided to just use them in the .300 Savage as well. I used the same 180 gr. bullets in all rifles chambered for the two cartridges. Except for an M1A I used for match shooting, I never used the .308 for hunting, so that rifle gets mostly 150-175 BTHP match bullets. It kind of made it easy to sight all the rifles for the one loading. To me, the .300 Savage was always the ideal deer cartridge. And the Model 99 is so slim and trim and easy to carry. I wouldn't pass up an elk or moose hunt because I only had a .300 Savage, but I hunted elk and black bear every year for about 35 years in Montana. I used a .35 Whelen, first a re-barreled Mauser action sporter, and from 1989 and after, a Remington Model 7600. I used the Model 99 to kill a pile of deer in my home state of Texas over many decades. I killed deer with everything from a .22 Hornet to .35 Whelen and nothing worked better than the .300 Savage. I also have a Remington Model 81 .300 Savage, both of them were hand me downs from my grandfather, but the Remington is godawful heavy. Love the gun, it's not for sale, it's fun to shoot. But for all day carrying, the Model 99 wins.
@@garyK.45ACP I know .300 Savage had 180 grain ammo for years as common as the 150s. Given how the old 180 grain CoreLokt behaved, It probably killed stuff at timber ranges as good as anything you could tote to the woods. And at the speeds 180 grain ammo runs in .300 Savage about any old bullet isn't gonna "break" on impact. You run out of speed before you run out of bullet. 170 gain .30-30 is similar. Another reason the old timers killed stuff right and left with those old classic cartridges that seem pretty tame these days. That and not shooting into the next county.
@@garyK.45ACP That .35 Whelen is a big boy cartridge despite being built on a .30-06 case. Has bear, elk, and moose written all over it. I think .35 caliber has a "magic" bore size where things begin to happen differently on their way to big bore performance. I've yet to hear of anybody using .35 anything that was unhappy with that bore size.
@@johnnorman7708 Yes, only the 150 gr. is available in .300 Savage factory loads now. Too bad. And yes, I never took long shots. Of all the game I killed, most hunting in wide open central Texas, I killed exactly ONE animal, a deer, at over 200 yds. I stepped it off because it seemed like such a long shot. 232 big steps. Really not so far at all. Most were well under 100 yards. Of all the rifles I own, exactly 2 have scopes. Both are 2.5x fixed power. 1 Leupold and 1 Weaver. Everything else has receiver mounted peep sights or open iron sights.
For a number of reasons, I taught myself to be able to shoot ambidextrously. I find it advantageous, quite often. When you couldn't pivot to the right enough and had to shoot one handed, it would have been so easy to switch to left hand to make the shot. Over the years, it has also helped me when certain injuries and health issues occurred, and I was able to work with those issues by switching back and forth, from left hand to right, and back. I highly recommend everyone to do so, you would be surprised how often that capability can help you.
What a load! 300-yard point-blank hold with a lever gun . . . wow! With the shorter mag tube and lighter weight up front I can understand why you like that rifle.
Love that 71 and that was a devastating round. Saw somebody walking behind you in the woods at 2:45 in the vid. Hope bigfoot ain’t stalking you lol. 👍🏻
In my opinion, many of these fancy expandable bullets create a lot of blood shot meat. Sometimes I think a round that is more solid with a good headshot or shoulder shot will give you more to eat without all the mess. Besides, you will find a lot less metal in your mouth when you go to chow down.!
These are different. Hammers do significantly less meat damage than a standard soft point hunting bullet. They might do a little bit more damage than a Barnes. But a lead 150 at 3,000fps is going to be a tremendous destroyer.
You shoot a lot of big bore bullets so could you maybe do one on ballistic drop at whatever yards come to mind? Like a 45/70 at 200 or 300 from a 100 yard zero
I can't imagine many game animals that will run too far after getting hit with one of those. Maybe something out between 200 & 300 yards. I'm going to look up that company and see what all they offer. Always happy to support American companies.
Could you please advise a good starting point with a particular powder? I cannot find any data whatsoever for a 150gr or 157gr in 348. Looks like a very impressive load considering the point blank range to 300. Thanks for the info and keep up the good work.
I to would like to know what powder you used. I've used rl7 and imr4320. 4320 worked the best but heat sensitive. Will try rl15 and vargets when I get some. Any help saving primers would be appreciated. Thanks
Shot a doe with this bullet at 2800fps mv. Doe was at 100 yds. Bullet exploded on impact no exit wound. Doe ran 150 yds. Jumped a fence. Not a good blood trail. When you shoot one post it
@@frankgagliardo3434 it seems almost impossible that the base of the Bullet, wouldn’t of penetrate it on through the deer, I guess anything is possible, so far I’ve never had a 348 bullet stop and a deer broadside anyhow, that’s disappointing, I have some load it up I’m going to try them this weekend
Impressive performance! Will have to try some of those bullets. What powders worked well? What was the range of charge weights you tried? Thanks for your content, which is great, especially the Model 71 info.
I think varget will work the best as far as accuracy goes, but I had to use leverevolution as I have run out of other powders and can’t get any more at this time
How old is your 71 and what is the twist? If you do hunt with this load love to see an autopsy of the damage. Do you post to rumble or some other that would allow you to show such a thing? As always love your work especially the details.
I've seen 1/16 twist and 1/32, but never seen 1/17, interesting. Winchester model 71 was known to be the smoothest action and also known for it's famous conversion of the 450 Alaskan.
You're killing me Lever Guns. I have wanted a Winchester 71 since I was 18 Had to settle on a Marlin .444, (since a shooting buddy already had a 1895 45-70, and you know, might as well try something different). But just not the same thing. It's not a .348 Winchester 71......
That is blistering speed. Not sure about that one. Kind of offends tradition. I can deal with improvements but only in small doses. My Dad loved .348. He remarked 150 grain was fast. That 150 disappeared about the time I was hatched out. I got a deal once on a pile of 200 grain Silvertip new old stock in yellow boxes. Offered to sell a box at a fair price to an old man who I knew to have a .348. He wouldn't buy them because they were not 150 grain. I told him there hadn't been a 150 in factory ammo in almost 30 years then. Can't believe some folks. Of course this guy took on a black bear deliberately with a little .218 Bee with a .348 in the rack at home. So there is no telling what people got going on in the thinking department. Maybe he needed the excitement. He got the bear down. Don't know how many rounds though. There were witnesses....
@@Leverguns50 I guess that load would dynamite deer. It used to be said .348 acted like .30-06. That load is approaching 7mm Rem Mag. for weight and speed. That's off the charts for a 1930s cartridge in essentially an improved 1886 rifle. My brain is still wired for 200 grains in the 2500 range.
I thought that rooster was about to get some hammer time. I got a friend named Rooster. Now I know why his parents named him Rooster....no one likes him. I'm his only friend! Lol!
Ol Rooster thinks it's worth crowing about. 🐓 Lot of energy dropped quick to put animal down fast. Might make cleaning copper petals out of meat a problem. Be great for 2 legged varmints breaking in.
@@noonzeeb according to the reloading manual in Winchester lever legacy 4198 with 34.5 grains of powder Should get a muzzle velocity of 2172 I believe that IMR powder because I think that’s all he used
I see a Model 71, I watch. It's my favorite (but not most used, nor do I think it is the best) lever gun. I have an original rifle handed down from grandfather, and a Miroku made carbine I bought in the 1980s when Miroku first put them out under the "Browning" name. That is one of the most accurate rifles I own, bar none. with just a Redfield peep sight. Miroku makes a great rifle!
I first used the Model 71 on a bear hunt in Quebec in 1971 (holy smokes, 50 years ago!). Killed a good size black bear very dead with one shot.
I know the 150 gr. bullets can be loaded to some impressive velocities (I was always able to equal .30-06 velocities with it but never pushed it to 3100 fps) but my favorite is a Hornady 250 gr. RN bullet. I found a cache of them in a gun shop in Arizona in 1996 and bought all they had and still have a few hundred. I use mostly cast bullets for practice, but used the 250 gr. for any hunting.
Thanks for the video.
FWIW, I think the best lever gun ever made is the Winchester Model 1895 and my most used is a Savage Model 99, .300 Savage.
@Gary K. The .348 '71and the .300 '99 you mentioned are both great stuff. They give me visions of guys in red plaid wool chasing big game in the northern woods somewhere. Both guns and cartridges were only about 15 years apart. Makes them contemporary to a degree. Wish I had chased down some 250 grain Barnes bullets for my .348 years ago. Stuck now with my small stash of 200s. For what it's worth, I followed John Barsness load recommendations for .300 Savage. 150 grain Hornady and around 41.0 grains of IMR 4895 gave decent accuracy in one 99 I had. Have a different one in project stage now that will get fed same. I tend to like the Idea of 165s and Reloader 15 as a do all for .300 Savage. I think that weight has the greatest potential for the cartridge and it's capacity. Fast enough to do the 200 yard dash and heavy enough to punch elk or moose.
@@johnnorman7708 A lot of people like the 150-165 gr, .30 bullets. I always used the 180 gr. in my .30-06 rifles and decided to just use them in the .300 Savage as well. I used the same 180 gr. bullets in all rifles chambered for the two cartridges.
Except for an M1A I used for match shooting, I never used the .308 for hunting, so that rifle gets mostly 150-175 BTHP match bullets.
It kind of made it easy to sight all the rifles for the one loading.
To me, the .300 Savage was always the ideal deer cartridge. And the Model 99 is so slim and trim and easy to carry.
I wouldn't pass up an elk or moose hunt because I only had a .300 Savage, but I hunted elk and black bear every year for about 35 years in Montana. I used a .35 Whelen, first a re-barreled Mauser action sporter, and from 1989 and after, a Remington Model 7600.
I used the Model 99 to kill a pile of deer in my home state of Texas over many decades. I killed deer with everything from a .22 Hornet to .35 Whelen and nothing worked better than the .300 Savage. I also have a Remington Model 81 .300 Savage, both of them were hand me downs from my grandfather, but the Remington is godawful heavy. Love the gun, it's not for sale, it's fun to shoot. But for all day carrying, the Model 99 wins.
@@garyK.45ACP I know .300 Savage had 180 grain ammo for years as common as the 150s. Given how the old 180 grain CoreLokt behaved, It probably killed stuff at timber ranges as good as anything you could tote to the woods. And at the speeds 180 grain ammo runs in .300 Savage about any old bullet isn't gonna "break" on impact. You run out of speed before you run out of bullet. 170 gain .30-30 is similar. Another reason the old timers killed stuff right and left with those old classic cartridges that seem pretty tame these days. That and not shooting into the next county.
@@garyK.45ACP That .35 Whelen is a big boy cartridge despite being built on a .30-06 case. Has bear, elk, and moose written all over it. I think .35 caliber has a "magic" bore size where things begin to happen differently on their way to big bore performance. I've yet to hear of anybody using .35 anything that was unhappy with that bore size.
@@johnnorman7708 Yes, only the 150 gr. is available in .300 Savage factory loads now. Too bad. And yes, I never took long shots. Of all the game I killed, most hunting in wide open central Texas, I killed exactly ONE animal, a deer, at over 200 yds. I stepped it off because it seemed like such a long shot. 232 big steps. Really not so far at all.
Most were well under 100 yards. Of all the rifles I own, exactly 2 have scopes. Both are 2.5x fixed power. 1 Leupold and 1 Weaver. Everything else has receiver mounted peep sights or open iron sights.
The look on your face when the rooster Crows is priceless.
Thanks for the great videos.
Have a safe Halloween.
Have a safe Halloween as well
For a number of reasons, I taught myself to be able to shoot ambidextrously. I find it advantageous, quite often. When you couldn't pivot to the right enough and had to shoot one handed, it would have been so easy to switch to left hand to make the shot. Over the years, it has also helped me when certain injuries and health issues occurred, and I was able to work with those issues by switching back and forth, from left hand to right, and back. I highly recommend everyone to do so, you would be surprised how often that capability can help you.
Thanks again. Your videos have taught me more about my .348 then I could ever find out on my own. Good luck in the woods this season!
Thank you
What a load! 300-yard point-blank hold with a lever gun . . . wow! With the shorter mag tube and lighter weight up front I can understand why you like that rifle.
Let me know if you get that 71 I can help you out with some brass and bullets
I started using hammer bullets in my 270 two years ago. Couldn’t be happier with the performance and accuracy.
It good to see a new bullet out for the 348 wcf. I'm with you on the handiness of a71. I sure love my 95 also. Thank you for the info
Awesome looking bullets !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good stuff Leverguns50! Really learning a lot about big bore leverguns from you.
Thank you
This rifle has always been on my bucket list but has eluded me. I guess you videos will have to do thanks
It’s definitely my favorite deer rifle
Love that 71 and that was a devastating round. Saw somebody walking behind you in the woods at 2:45 in the vid. Hope bigfoot ain’t stalking you lol. 👍🏻
If Bigfoot is Stalking Him He's got him covered with that 50 LOL
That was my nephew, Took me two days to make the video after I got off work, I did shooting for part the day before I did the talking part
In my opinion, many of these fancy expandable bullets create a lot of blood shot meat. Sometimes I think a round that is more solid with a good headshot or shoulder shot will give you more to eat without all the mess. Besides, you will find a lot less metal in your mouth when you go to chow down.!
These are different. Hammers do significantly less meat damage than a standard soft point hunting bullet. They might do a little bit more damage than a Barnes. But a lead 150 at 3,000fps is going to be a tremendous destroyer.
Loved the video. That load has some oomph behind it. 👍😊
Thank you
At 2:42 you have somebody walk by on your left. Is someone on your property or is that a neighbor?
Yeah it was my nephew
You shoot a lot of big bore bullets so could you maybe do one on ballistic drop at whatever yards come to mind? Like a 45/70 at 200 or 300 from a 100 yard zero
I can't imagine many game animals that will run too far after getting hit with one of those. Maybe something out between 200 & 300 yards. I'm going to look up that company and see what all they offer. Always happy to support American companies.
That a perfect gun and ammo for stalking style hunting.
That’s my favorite style of hunting
@@Leverguns50 me too
Very nice rifle and the .348 caliber is always a contender. Happy Halloween.
Thank you
Could you please advise a good starting point with a particular powder? I cannot find any data whatsoever for a 150gr or 157gr in 348. Looks like a very impressive load considering the point blank range to 300. Thanks for the info and keep up the good work.
That rooster trying steal the spotlight 🤣
The problem is we have too many, but we haven’t had the time make something delicious out of them
That is one pretty rifle... Works a treat apparently.
Thank you
Thank you ☺️
You’re welcome
I’m gonna have to see about getting some of those!
Let them know where you seen them at
@@Leverguns50 I sure will!
Interesting, I've got to get myself some Hammer bullets to try.
I hope you like them as much as I do
I need to get some!👍🏽😊❤️🇺🇸
Yea
Deer will fear that 348
You’re right about that
I to would like to know what powder you used. I've used rl7 and imr4320. 4320 worked the best but heat sensitive. Will try rl15 and vargets when I get some. Any help saving primers would be appreciated. Thanks
I’ve used superformants, leverevolution, h 4350, but it looks like varget gets the best groups
I was using leverevolution but only because I couldn’t find any varget
Shot a doe with this bullet at 2800fps mv. Doe was at 100 yds. Bullet exploded on impact no exit wound. Doe ran 150 yds. Jumped a fence. Not a good blood trail. When you shoot one post it
@@frankgagliardo3434 it seems almost impossible that the base of the Bullet, wouldn’t of penetrate it on through the deer, I guess anything is possible, so far I’ve never had a 348 bullet stop and a deer broadside anyhow, that’s disappointing, I have some load it up I’m going to try them this weekend
@@frankgagliardo3434 was you able to find the bullet inside the deer I’d be curious what it looks like
👍 flipped that gel block and pretty much used that block up.
That’s right
Leverguns 50 you have ackley improved in 348 ?
@@chrisgabbert658 yes
Leverguns 50 can the bullet take the 400 fps more 🤷♂️
Next time you bag a deer consider doing a video for us City Slickers on how to field dress it.
OK
Impressive performance! Will have to try some of those bullets. What powders worked well? What was the range of charge weights you tried? Thanks for your content, which is great, especially the Model 71 info.
I think varget will work the best as far as accuracy goes, but I had to use leverevolution as I have run out of other powders and can’t get any more at this time
Looks like a nice bullet to try. Wonder if they will ship to Canada?
Thanks for sharing!
I don’t know, I would think so
@@Leverguns50 I'll give them a call, it would make a great deer bullet. Any recommendation for a powder loading? Thanks for the tip!
I have a 356 winchester, looks similar. I shoot 200 and 250 grain but can't find any ammo for it any more.
It would look like a deer was shot up close with a load of 000 buckshot great video brother be safe and GOD BLESS you and your family brother Amen 🙏
Pretty much destroyed the gel block which is not seen often. No complaint's on the Lever 348👌, lovely and nice. For sure one of my picks👍
Thank you so much
How old is your 71 and what is the twist? If you do hunt with this load love to see an autopsy of the damage. Do you post to rumble or some other that would allow you to show such a thing?
As always love your work especially the details.
As far as I know they are all 1 in 12 rate of twists.
Great stuff brother :-)
Thank you
2:45... bigfoot top right, passing thru..
They’re 243 caliber to in the original boxes the boxes are worth more than the bullets.
I've seen 1/16 twist and 1/32, but never seen 1/17, interesting. Winchester model 71 was known to be the smoothest action and also known for it's famous conversion of the 450 Alaskan.
Model 71 has a one in 12 twist rate
Those roosters were active today
Yup it’s about time to start eating some
Wow That Jel Block Did The Ballistic Dance 😮😲😮😀👍🏼 That Model 71 Winchester Should Take Care of Any Deer size Animal or Larger With No Problem 😀😊😀👍🏼
thank you
Do you have part number off of box for those bullets?
No sorry
Reminds me of the Nosler Partition - but in an all copper variant. Should work just fine on game!
Thank you
Could you make some duplex loads to test?
Sounds like a plan
@@Leverguns50 coolness, I didn't want to try that myself.
Muy bueno tu video saludos desde argentina
Thank you from Alabama
I would feel it be a good bear defense if needed
I’m sure it will do the trick
Caribou bullet! What powder are you using?
What powder did you use?
This particular load was leverevolution, but as soon as I can get my hands on some Varget that’s probably what I will use
That was impressive!!
Thank you
Did you get a deer with these bullets?
No, I didn’t, but there’s always next season
6:17 he eventually shoots something for the TLDR folks.
Thank you , I’m sure people will appreciate that
You're killing me Lever Guns. I have wanted a Winchester 71 since I was 18
Had to settle on a Marlin .444, (since a shooting buddy already had a 1895 45-70, and you know, might as well try something different). But just not the same thing. It's not a .348 Winchester 71......
I think that Cimarron has a Italian company build a model 71 for sale they make it if I remember right in 348 win as well as 45-70
Instant damage!!
That’s right
That is blistering speed. Not sure about that one. Kind of offends tradition. I can deal with improvements but only in small doses. My Dad loved .348. He remarked 150 grain was fast. That 150 disappeared about the time I was hatched out. I got a deal once on a pile of 200 grain Silvertip new old stock in yellow boxes. Offered to sell a box at a fair price to an old man who I knew to have a .348. He wouldn't buy them because they were not 150 grain. I told him there hadn't been a 150 in factory ammo in almost 30 years then. Can't believe some folks. Of course this guy took on a black bear deliberately with a little .218 Bee with a .348 in the rack at home. So there is no telling what people got going on in the thinking department. Maybe he needed the excitement. He got the bear down. Don't know how many rounds though. There were witnesses....
The original 150 grain bullet that came out in 1935 was doing 2880 FPS and with the improvement of modern powder, and these low drag bullets and Wala
@@Leverguns50 Best muley I ever killed was with .348. Stupid dogs drug off the head and antlers. So no evidence to show for it....
@@Leverguns50 I guess that load would dynamite deer. It used to be said .348 acted like .30-06. That load is approaching 7mm Rem Mag. for weight and speed. That's off the charts for a 1930s cartridge in essentially an improved 1886 rifle. My brain is still wired for 200 grains in the 2500 range.
@@johnnorman7708 Man I hate that for you, I bet it was a cool hunt though
I’ll send you a pic tomorrow brother of some Nosler bullets I traded for they were made on a screw machine
I’ll be looking forward to seeing those pictures tomorrow
What is your load????
If you join Patreon or you can email me for free can disclose loading data of there, but not in the comment section
I think the 348 and that bullet will be very effective on deer.
I hopefully will see you shortly
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Oh ya that's gonna make a hole
It sure does
I thought that rooster was about to get some hammer time.
I got a friend named Rooster. Now I know why his parents named him Rooster....no one likes him.
I'm his only friend! Lol!
Thank you
Ol Rooster thinks it's worth crowing about. 🐓 Lot of energy dropped quick to put animal down fast. Might make cleaning copper petals out of meat a problem. Be great for 2 legged varmints breaking in.
I own a 71 Deluxe. Older rounds. I"'ll see what I send you.
Wow a 71Deluxe that must be nice
I also have a 1941 built 71 deluxe and am trying to get some load information on 200 gr rcbs cast bullets just for plinking?
@@noonzeeb according to the reloading manual in Winchester lever legacy 4198 with 34.5 grains of powder Should get a muzzle velocity of 2172 I believe that IMR powder because I think that’s all he used
Thanks for the information, as you know commercially made bullets are gone so it's down to lead for just shooting. I love your channel
@@noonzeeb i’m not sure but you might can get some jacketed bullets from hawk
Just seems like alot of wasted meat to me.
I don’t think you should shoot a deer when there’s meat just through the ribs