They totally could. Windows could be the fastest and most lightweight desktop OS if MS wanted. But it's a corporation, and Windows relies on hardware sales and lots of data collection to be profitable, they need a whole lot of processes running in the background, and don't care about making old devices unusable with their OS. MS have a desktop OS monopoly, many professional applications and games still don't run on Linux, so they're still not worried about loosing their market-share, no matter how shitty their attitude is.
@@WolfiiDog13 Actually a lot of window's bloat comes from the stuff they add into it that is for third party, mostly the companies that make the computer you're using
Same. It takes a lot of time creating new images for our company to deploy out to our mini-PCs and laptops because of us needing to remove all the bloatware. Not sure how updates work with this mini version of Windows though. Just hoping the bloat won't return after updates are applied. Otherwise I am very interested in testing this out.
@@victorkreig6089 Let's be honest, it's both. There's a TON of backwards compatibility baked into windows OS still going back all the way to XP as well as basic drivers to handle vast swaths of different hardware produced over decade(s) at least well enough to detect and talk to that hardware in order to find and install better drivers. That's not ideal, but I also get it. But Windows is also crammed with bloat that I cannot remove and do not want, like Cortana, which can only be shut off, not removed entirely, and god knows how much data scraping.
@@beanshady if the bloat isn't present on your computer, it won't be updated or reinstalled. If you deploy images at work, you should have an idea about how to remove these apps from the wim image prior creating the corporate image (if you are not the one preparing the image, then my apologies). That said, look it up. It's quite straight forward for a techie person.
I use Superlite SE, which is also a modified Windows 11 ISO but it uses even less RAM. Just 0.9GB out of 4GB installed on my 10 year old laptop. There's no Store app, no MS account requirement, no Edge, and there's versions that don't even have Defender (which is what i'm using). It honestly feels like a free hardware upgrade, everything is much snappier, it's very noticeable. It has a large improvement to minimum frame rates with some games too. Infact it's mostly aimed at gaming but also happens to be ideal for old hardware. You should do a vid on it with benchmarks....
I have an older version, Tiny10, running my my Thinkpad (model X230) and it has run butter smooth for the last few months. I'm definitely gonna "upgrade" to T11. 👍🏼
@Kunal I haven't done a Windows Update session yet. I wanted to see how it responds to all of the hardware driver updates first. I will give it a try this weekend and will post an update.
@@HunterKiotori I haven't done a Windows Update session yet. I wanted to see how it responds to all of the hardware driver updates first. I will give it a try this weekend and will post an update.
@@RCfromtheNYC damn, that OS can literally run on a pentium 3 with less than 400 mb ram. I sincerely wished it has an option for phones because with iOS and Android as major platforms, it's getting boring nowadays
Could you install this on a high end laptop and show some benchmarks before and after tiny11. Maybe there will be better performance in gaming because there is no bloatware.
you can actually install this without a usb thumbdrive but it has a few more steps but worth it if you don't wanna go buy a usb stick i did it myself on an older pc btw if it says getting things ready for like an hour on an older pc just wait it out since it just takes a while
I wish I could leave a 5 star review on this video. I'm doing this ASAP. Now I'm curious about installing Chrome OS, tiny11 will only be used for Chrome browser
100% double check when you download from that site that it shows the no sysreq b2 iso, almost every time you sign up for archive first time it DOESNT show it. Also the download speeds atrocious on that website, takes 4+ hours on 2.5gpbs connection so good luck. Saving anyone else the pain I just went thru
Dang you actually covered it. I hope to see more of this OS in gaming and emulation. Love your videos and you're channel is honestly one of the one's I look out for when stuff like this gets released.
For those with missing Wifi Drivers, Finally solved it. I had to force the installation to go into Audit mode, CTRL+SHIFT+F3, I downloaded the adapter drivers to another thumb drive, then go into the device manager, find the broke network adapter, update its drivers from thumb drive, then reboot into OOBE and finish the installation. Bobs your uncle.
This would be perfect for those HDMI PC sticks also, many of them shipped with 60gb drives and are unusable now. This could potentialy bring a lot of tech back to life! Great vid.
It would be cool if there was like a Tiny11 preset for NTLite or even a standalone script / utility for making the necessary modifications to the system files. This way Microsoft will have basically no legal ground to stop the OS from getting into the hands of users. Additionally such a script could be open source, allowing the community to make improvements. Even if it is a closed source utility, there would be potential for custom presets that work better than in NTLite. It would also make Windows modification more accessible
I saw a video from Craft Computing that goes over a GitHub utility that does exactly this. You can even choose what gets removed, what each "service" does, etc. Can't recall what the utility's called though
@@alx8439 - I have PiHole running. Seems to do a good job of blocking this. Also blocks Roku. Kinda nifty. I still want all of my updates for Windows, though.
@@alx8439 yup. Unless I hear about a major security patch issue, I tend not to. Especially after 3-4 years. I've had too many last-updates from Apple that brought my device to a crawl. Never again.
I love the idea of debloated windows, but it is always a big security risk on dailying a modified windows build that you're not sure is trustworthy. Maybe this one is, i don't know.
Personally I wouldn't risk it. It's not from an official source and you have no idea what's on it. If your system is running this slow then ie would be a good idea to either install Linux, Windows 10 or save some money and upgrade.
been running ghoste spectres isos for 2 years never had an issue and i have it on multiple systems still requires a key and has defender and official updates but extremely lightweight
I know the guy behind tiny11 and has said what programs he used. its called MSMG Toolkit and you can use it too for free. I have used it for a making a minimal windows 10 1607 install and works perfectly
This appears to be a great option for older PCs. In the past I have resorted to Linux distributions for keeping end of life Windows laptops in a usable state, but with mixed results. Thank you for the video.
If someone has an older PC, it cannot support beyond Directx 9, so there is no point in it having beyond Windows 7, which already uses far less resources than Windows 11, and also has lite versions that use even less.
@@mpischannel1832 Did you even read my entire comment? Because your response would assume I was saying that you can not run windows 10, which has absolutely not one thing to do with my comment...
Autohotkey is perfect for windows. You can customize buttons to go directly where you want to go. Anything on windows system you can customize to your needs. Wanna run a certain game, press a button and go directly there no waiting. Need notepad, press a button. Watch a MP4, press a button. Customize the PC anyway you like with autohotkey.
This seems like the perfect thing to keep older windows tablets running a modernized OS. Something like a Surface 4 with those 6th gen i7s and i5s and 4-8GB of RAM would benefit quite a lot.
Those 200-300 meg idle seems a bit dubious since 1. Its not idling at 300 megs with spare memory but bottlenecked to 300 megs 2. The SSD usage is 100% on both images and that could mean the system is swapping to drive since there’s not enough memory which could make the ssd wear out much quicker, and since ssds arent as fast as system memory (RAM) its going to be a bit laggy as well. For machines with really low memory I would recommend a light weight linux distribution instead because you can actually have a low resource usage and have spare memory left for doing actual work. Even tho most people dont like linux and dont wanna use it cus it’s unfamiliar, its a better alternative for these lower end machines. + theres no microsoft / google spyware and its free.
@@Jhakaas_Jai As requested: The expression means that the person you are saying it to is gullible enough to believe you when you offer to sell them a well know landmark as if you owned it. It's an old expression usually associated with the Brooklyn Bridge and very gullible bumpkins visiting the "big city" for the first time. ;-]
@@robertcartier5088 I was asking about if linux has spyware or not.....if it has please name them and if you know how to remove them. I use linux so.....
For people who are confused like me. The files are called B1 and B2 for Beta1 and Beta2 (2 is newer). The torrent does NOT include version with no system requirements, but Rufus can already take care of that for you.
I know more or less what they remove or with which programs they could do it (I did it myself, but it takes a while), it's not magic, it's just knowing which processes are the ones that almost nobody uses, especially if it's only for playing games or office.
Actually there’s a lot more to it that that. It removes telemetry stuff as well, etc. it’s way better than running vainilla Windows 10 or 11 and trying to strip it down. This is based off of Enterprise images.
I've tested a bunch of Windows 7 and 10 _Lite_ versions over the course of the years and I always run into problems after a while. At first it seems to run fine and snappy but then a game won't run because of some thing the was removed; programs won't work properly out of the blue, Windows Update will glitch, driver issues may appear, etc. It's like playing with the unexpected. These days I rather prefer to install the full version of Windows 10 or 11 and from that just make my own tweaks with third party tools (Winaero, ThisIsWin11, DControl, Windows Ultimate Toolbox, and whatever I find usefull), and even by only doing this I still have gone through issues (but by only tweaking the basics you can get a big improvement, just like these problematic stripped down versions). So I don't think is worth it installing this kinda of modified version on your main computer, maybe on a secondary on. Having to throubleshoot stuff and never finding an answer and then having to format it again is really frustating.
Yeahhhh everyone's all curious about this but a lot of those people don't understand Windows well. MS puts so much shit on it that isn't bloatware, which is the only thing most think about. I am skipping all these lite versions and going to Linux w/ my retro laptops!! (first-time Linux user) 😎
@@troyguererro0898 Same happened for me. Cannot update security updates. And other updates. Some say it is because onedrive is missing. Trying to add those folders back in WinSxS and see.
Great video as always. We would also love a video that compare gaming and emulation between tiny 11 and a stock Windows 11 install to see if there is an actual difference.
This could work great with the Steam Deck, be it on SD card or SSD, it would definitely open up storage beyond the OS on the medium used, not to mention more RAM for games, even with the UMA buffer set to 4GB. Definitely would like to see a vid on it!
What's the virtualization capabilities of the Deck? Rather than dual boot for the rare times Windows is entirely needed, I'd be more interested in seeing Tiny11 virtualized with relevant file storage local to the Deck itself; essentially, make Tiny11 an application via a VM environment that points to a folder for all the Windows-relevant programs and files.
The one hiccup I think there is in that for me is IIRC xbox game services aren't here.. though if they can be installed, and things update normally? I would 100% reload my WinDeck with this.
I installed this on my AOKZOE handheld and it works for some games, but most require some services that have been removed. The performance delta wasn't worth it in my opinion
freaking awesome! I'm now using this build on my HP laptop. i5-8250u / 16GB Ram. yeah, it's overkill to run this on my laptop, but i despise the bloatware in windows. using this build is way better than running the debloat ps scripts. this build appears to be the Windows Enterprise version. I have an msdn account through work and it took my Windows 10 Pro product license key without issue. thanks for shining a light on Tiny11.
I've been hearing about Tiny11. Honestly I'm mostly interested which drawbacks it has. To be so extremely shrunk down, it must have lost some capabilities. What is still left? What functions did we loose? Is it still secure? Do we have Windows Defender / Firewall, etc.? Do we have updates available? These are all important questions in my opinion that haven't been answered. And not gonna lie, I'm gonna educate myself right now. But would be great content for a follow up video ;)
Id be skeptical, especially in terms of security, not just in terms of updates. you should probably just make ur own custom windows iso, its pretty ez theres tutorials.
You'll need to read articles on it. Most RUclipsrs cover the most basic crap w/ these OSes. They just want the views from something unordinary like a light W11 but don't actually care about helping much
I was wondering why you hadn't talked about Windows customized version as they improve the 1% and 0.1% FPS on many many games making the experience much smoother. Great video!
I presently use full blown Windows 11 (very little bloat on it) and it runs fine on and old laptop with unsupported hardware that has a maximum of 4G Ram, and it is usually running at 2 - 2.5GRam of memory, and works fine. About the same Memory usage as this Tiny 11?
Is this worth doing on a gaming computer that cant use windows 11? Edit: i have everything on this computer, all my files. just i cant upgrade to windows 11 bc i dont have a TPM chip and wondering if tiny 11 is good for gaming?
Since the other pc handhelds have been thrown out there I may as well bring up the one I preordered! Seeing a video of this running on the OXP2 would be sweet! Also, is there any mention of the telemetry being stripped out as well? I imagine it is but it’s something that still needs to be mentioned/asked.
I installed on a VM within my Proxmox a couple of days back. Set it up with 1.5Gb RAM and 2 vCPUs. It's rocking it! I use that for random stuff and testing usability for general purposes and going great so far.
I did it with a Dual Xeon E5-2690 V2 assigned 2 CPU’s with 3 cores/6 threads(6cores/12threads total)(host) and only 16Gb of memory. And it runs pretty good. IBM System X3650 M4 with 2x Quaddro K6000 and 192Gb of Ram. I also run XPenology DS3622xsp on it Alpine Linux for my docker containers(pi-hole, Frigate, portainer, Odoo, Syncthing, nginx proxy manager, Home Assistant and unbound) as Well as HiveOS and Kali. Those old servers are really versatile and powerful. But Tiny11 missed too much features. So installed Ghost Spectre afterwards. It’s way better
@@manojkhatri1788 I used GhostSpectre it installed with no problems immediately through Proxmox with an AMD R5 GPU Passthrough 12 Xeon E5-2670-V2 cores(24 threads) set as Host Processor and 16 Gb of the 128Gb of memory assigned. I think GhostSpectre is way better than Tiny11
Working on getting Windows 7 running on my Ryzen 7950x with 128gb of RAM Until then using ZOrin OS on it, and using WIndows 7 still like a power user dream in 2023 on my FX-8350.
@@TechGuru666 If its not open source (somehow) or if the distro isn't large enough for there to be a lot of eyes on said code I'd suggest against installing said distro.
Love the vid, maybe try Tiny 11 on some PC handhelds like the Ayaneo devices to see if it squeezes any more performance out of games on limited gaming hardware
I have a 7-year old laptop that runs with 4GB RAM, and a 1.6GHz Intel Pentium Processor, so I think Tiny11 would run there because all I do with that is browse the internet.
I have some major concerns: A) Will there be any problems down the line trying to install software or hardware such as a basic webcam? B) Is it as secure as vanilla Win11? Can one use it for online banking? C) Will it not become slow over the course of months of use? Personally, on a laptop with low specs I would use some lightweight Linux distro. It should be much more secure and more reliable.
Webcams don't work, at least on Tiny 10. No issues with software so far, though. 6 months in. I get security updates with the latest version of Tiny 10 and use it for banking, not issues so far. But I do most of my banking from my phone. 6 months in, it's not significantly slower than it was when I first installed it. But I recommend Tiny 10 over Tiny 11 because the development is much more mature. Tiny 11 is newer and some things don't yet work, that do on Tiny 10.
I wonder if this works on (older) surfaces, too. Would love an in-depth review about the OS with advantages and disadvantages and possible secuity issues. Feels like it‘s to good to be true. But thanks for the video and making me aware! More, please! ❤
@@triynizzles I installed on my old surface go and I can't access the Microsoft app store and when I try to install chrome or edge I get an error message.
I have a few questions about this Tiny11 de-bloated OS 1) What about the Cumulative Update (AKA Patch Tuesday monthly updates)? Like fixed Zero Day Vulnerabilities, and other things. 2) Is hardware drivers are stable? Like the NVIDIA driver update did. 3) Is does have a Microsoft Defender installed? Security is a key to prevent a malicious software.
My laptop is much much better than these laptops and i still can't install windows 11 My laptop specs: Core i5 6th gen (6200u) Intel hd 520 4gb 8gb ram (2 sticks) 256gb ssd I wonder if i can install windows 11 with some tricks
This would be a good way to dualboot for the Steam Deck IF some games in your library are hostile to Proton, but would only dual boot when playing said game.
The readme for this describes it as "non-serviceable" which I interpret as "no security updates". This machine will over time, become more and more vulnerable.
With no more ram than 384 megs, then that's a old machine. Last I recall, only PC133 offered ram in that amount. DDR2 may have?... can't remember... but for a fact DDR3 did not.
@@zigenstern almost all games are playable perfectly on linux nowadays cept for the ones that implements a kernel level anti cheat which is clearly a violation to the user privacy
This OS has a watermark in the lower right corner says pc not support and will not get updates. Can't run Windows on an external drive with out some modificatrion, setup will tell you it won't install to a usb drive. You're better off using a debloat script. it's safer.
What would the difference be between installing full windows 11 on a high-end system and installing tiny 11 on the same high-end system? Would it give you more/less performance?
It won't necessarily give you a massive performance boost imo. The point of Tiny11 is to get rid of all the bloatware/3rd party nonsense. Another alternative to this would be Ghost spectre's windows 10/11 superlite. I have been using it for months on my main pc and others too
The impact would be minor at best on a high end system, the load the bloat puts on you system is prety negligible on high end systems so removing it won't help much. It really only matters for lower end systems.
If the author provided the script or steps of what to cut to manually make the ISO, instead of a premade one I would try it. But let's say I had been burned with premade Windows images in the past.
That was interesting. I have an old (circa 2011) Toshiba laptop with an AMD E450. I tried both the Tiny 10 and the Tiny11 and the 11 beat the pants off the 10. Ran 11 better than it ran 10 or even W7 Home, which it came with. Having 8 GB RAM is probably one of the reasons. All the current updates installed without any problem or errors. It even pulled a digital W11 Pro license out of MS, versus Tiny 10 not registering at all. And as my W7 was for Home, I am surprised. Snappy is not quite what I would call it but much less laggy than W10 Home was.
@ETAPrime - I bought the same model laptop from Walmart yesterday, which was delivered this morning. I've since installed Tiny 11 following your video as closely as possible (you did skip some details), and Tiny 11 gets stuck looking for a network. Wifi worked with the original software (Windows 10), so I'm trying to figure out what's happening. Did you have to do anything special to get wifi working on the new install?
Finally solved it. I had to force the installation to go into Audit mode, CTRL+SHIFT+F3, I downloaded the adapter drivers to another thumb drive, then go into the deivce manager, find the broke network adapter, update its drivers from thumb drive, then reboot into OOBE and finish the installation. Bobs your uncle.
@@slash2podcast You rock! I already had the drivers downloaded and copied to my thumb drive, but I needed to learn about audit mode. I'm writing this comment on the laptop from Chrome. Thanks for posting the solution!
I LIKE the idea, I'm going to do some tests to make sure it's safe for me. 1. Run it on multiple anti viruses 2. After the installation, imma run Wireshark to see if something sus is there, re run an anti-virus inside the system
I installed this as my primary gaming OS. I think there were a few more things that could have been stripped out of the build - I ran Windows Decrapifier on it, and got rid of a few more things. It runs, but some updates don't work (no big deal to me). Hardware seems to install okay. My system is a AMD Ryzen 9 5950X w 128 GB Ram and a Nvidia 3080ti.
I'm kinda curious when I hear about builds like this, is there a reason for that much ram (I.e. running professional software?) cuz that sounds like total overkill for even high end gaming.
@@Bustermachine No particular reason, just did it because I could. ;) The computer was to be used as a Hackintosh once upon a time, but I bought a Mac Studio for that...
I'm interested in using this for my gaming PC as well. I play Star Citizen and feel this OS would benefit gameplay even though I already have a good build. Have you ran into any issues?
It's better to install windows 10 Enterprise ltsc iot, because it has minimal bloatware as tiny11 but it has the official security updates and full functionality not like tiny11
Good option, i haven't hear of this build so i will definitively take a look. Not sure if you know already or heard but there is also ReviOS, it has windows 10 and 11 versions and they are more robust that this TinyOs but at the same time lighter that the regular Microsoft builds. I'm running that on my pc and is way faster than with the regular builds.
I was waiting on someone to say that. Every debloating script I've ever ran on Win10 or 11 always had to be done over after a feature update. This sounded interesting, but I'll stick with my Arch Linux. Have a good 'un.
You get a thumbs up because you're the first person I've seen that's actually mentioned the 64bit CPU requirement. There's lots of people saying no CPU requirement in the comments when it's not quite true.
After downloading and installing Tiny11 on my 1TB SSD drive using Rufus, I excitedly booted it up. However, my excitement was short-lived when I realized that it was already using around 20GB of storage, far exceeding my expectations for it that advertised as using only around 8GB to 9GB. It felt eerily similar to a stock Windows OS as it automatically installed drivers and programs, which is a rare sight for a modded Windows ISO. To add insult to injury, I was astonished to see that Windows Update was enabled on Tiny11. How peculiar, I thought to myself. Isn't this the very feature that Tiny11 boasts of being free from? I couldn't help but feel skeptical about my installation process, but the lack of bloatware or pre-installed browser reassured me that it was indeed Tiny11. Nevertheless, the possibility of an update reinstalling bloatware and defeating the purpose of using Tiny11 loomed over my head like a dark cloud.
What about windows update? does it work? Will it override the settings and install all those deleted bloatware with next major update, like it used to do with windows 10?
For slower and older systems, I also recommend installing an adblocker for web browsers. Not only does it speed some websites up, but it prevents popups and potential malware. I do this to any laptop I get from boomers and elderly folk. Saves me the headache I'll get from fixing their future mistakes. I ask them beforehand if they want to keep it or not.
yep - that's the reason I still use firefox. I've got a spate of extensions for adblocks, and some really nice tools for controlling video playback (magnification etc) as well as custom youtube handlers to filter out their autoplay nonsense and ads that try to get around adblock software.
this is a really helpful version of windows for those that dualboot their steam decks. I can get around 5 and a half hours using this iso over the normal stock windows.
I'd still recommend a 4gb ram system, unless you plan on never updating or having anything load at boot and never having an antivirus, slowly the ram amount required will creep back up near to usual required amounts. source: myself who runs a de-bloated os on my laptop
I'd be interested to see if this has reduced power draw compared to stock Windows 11 on something like the WIN4 / AYANEO2. Outside of the APU itself, fan, disk, wireless and screen, the background OS is the largest remainder of power consumption so it could have some marginal improvement on power draw & battery life EDIT: Also curious how this compares to "Atlas OS", which is a very similar project
I prefer the Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC for my emulation machine. I stripped out pretty much everything I don't need and have it running as an appliance with ES-DE as the frontend. Works a treat! I'd prefer a Linux distro instead but flexibility with my DS4 controllers just isn't there (such as DS4Windows + HIDHide provides).
This, even stripped down consumes so much resources and there are still so much running in the background that even this is slow. Nah, you guys enjoy your little "Winblows" ride, I have been enjoying the use of Linux (Without systemd) for over a decade now, everything works out of the box, no viruses, no malware, no "scheduled background tasks" that I did not endorse, no calling home and sending all your telemetry, just plain CPU cycles used when it should.
After thirty or so distro hops I've settled on Garuda (Arch>Manjaro>Garuda) for now because it's rolling, default BTRFS, has a fantastic set of system tools, and once you get rid of the inspired-by-fourteen-year-old-gamers theme it's a smooooooth system. It's still systemd but I've never had issues with that myself. Up to the last couple months I've been purely XFCE, but the latest KDE has spoiled me even on my lower-end stuff. It's a lot lighter-acting than I remember it from when I started dabbling in 2014. Enjoy your 'Nix!
I have RTX 3080 + RTX 2070, 9.36 TB HDD, 1 TB NVMe SSD and 480 GB SSD storage, & 32 GB RAM on my system. But it stills bugs me off that useless windows uses too many system resources. I usually work with Blender & Unreal Engine 5 & Gaea and some other 3d stuff and I needed every piece of my hardware resources... Probably I'm gonna give it a shot that tiny 11 or tiny 10.
I'm confused if I should use b1 or b2 to get the less ram usage, i tried b1 and it uses at Average 2gb of ram when you are on desktop, and after some optimization it uses 1.8 or 1.7gb
Windows should offer this as an option. Even if it’s a Regedit during the firsts install boot. I’ve tried slim Windows 11 ISO’s. They almost always end up with issues if you do try installing certain apps. Since some system files either broken or are removed.
My question is I have a newer laptop but I’d like to try it out and the question I have is will it work with windows? Hello I really enjoy using that. Without being signed into windows.
installed Tiny11 on my AMD A6 processor , 8GB DDR3 ram, 320GB HDD desktop PC.. installation is straight forward and to all drivers, no problems.. yes it ran smooth.. I still reinstalled Edge, but Im using Brave browser. Updated windows, ran no problems. Installed some apps from MS Store like the Messenger, Facebook , and Roblox (just in case I want to play some games there), I can say its still faster compared to its full blown setup, considering Im using HDD..
Imagine if Microsoft actually made the operating system bloat free. I am considering this for business use as well.
They totally could. Windows could be the fastest and most lightweight desktop OS if MS wanted. But it's a corporation, and Windows relies on hardware sales and lots of data collection to be profitable, they need a whole lot of processes running in the background, and don't care about making old devices unusable with their OS.
MS have a desktop OS monopoly, many professional applications and games still don't run on Linux, so they're still not worried about loosing their market-share, no matter how shitty their attitude is.
@@WolfiiDog13 Actually a lot of window's bloat comes from the stuff they add into it that is for third party, mostly the companies that make the computer you're using
Same. It takes a lot of time creating new images for our company to deploy out to our mini-PCs and laptops because of us needing to remove all the bloatware. Not sure how updates work with this mini version of Windows though. Just hoping the bloat won't return after updates are applied. Otherwise I am very interested in testing this out.
@@victorkreig6089 Let's be honest, it's both.
There's a TON of backwards compatibility baked into windows OS still going back all the way to XP as well as basic drivers to handle vast swaths of different hardware produced over decade(s) at least well enough to detect and talk to that hardware in order to find and install better drivers.
That's not ideal, but I also get it.
But Windows is also crammed with bloat that I cannot remove and do not want, like Cortana, which can only be shut off, not removed entirely, and god knows how much data scraping.
@@beanshady if the bloat isn't present on your computer, it won't be updated or reinstalled.
If you deploy images at work, you should have an idea about how to remove these apps from the wim image prior creating the corporate image (if you are not the one preparing the image, then my apologies).
That said, look it up. It's quite straight forward for a techie person.
I use Superlite SE, which is also a modified Windows 11 ISO but it uses even less RAM. Just 0.9GB out of 4GB installed on my 10 year old laptop. There's no Store app, no MS account requirement, no Edge, and there's versions that don't even have Defender (which is what i'm using). It honestly feels like a free hardware upgrade, everything is much snappier, it's very noticeable. It has a large improvement to minimum frame rates with some games too. Infact it's mostly aimed at gaming but also happens to be ideal for old hardware. You should do a vid on it with benchmarks....
@@plebius Yeah it's updated regularly, including Windows preview builds.
@@ItPutsTheLotionOnItsSkin can u tell from whete you downloaded it
I have an older version, Tiny10, running my my Thinkpad (model X230) and it has run butter smooth for the last few months. I'm definitely gonna "upgrade" to T11. 👍🏼
I got an x260 as well, does the tiny 10 get security updates?
@Kunal I haven't done a Windows Update session yet. I wanted to see how it responds to all of the hardware driver updates first. I will give it a try this weekend and will post an update.
@@HunterKiotori I haven't done a Windows Update session yet. I wanted to see how it responds to all of the hardware driver updates first. I will give it a try this weekend and will post an update.
@@RCfromtheNYC damn, that OS can literally run on a pentium 3 with less than 400 mb ram. I sincerely wished it has an option for phones because with iOS and Android as major platforms, it's getting boring nowadays
@Lavenderfawn you should use it trust me it's incredible!...
Could you install this on a high end laptop and show some benchmarks before and after tiny11. Maybe there will be better performance in gaming because there is no bloatware.
you can actually install this without a usb thumbdrive but it has a few more steps but worth it if you don't wanna go buy a usb stick i did it myself on an older pc btw if it says getting things ready for like an hour on an older pc just wait it out since it just takes a while
I wish I could leave a 5 star review on this video. I'm doing this ASAP. Now I'm curious about installing Chrome OS, tiny11 will only be used for Chrome browser
Thx ETA, I will try to install this on my Kangaroo Plus Mini PC
100% double check when you download from that site that it shows the no sysreq b2 iso, almost every time you sign up for archive first time it DOESNT show it. Also the download speeds atrocious on that website, takes 4+ hours on 2.5gpbs connection so good luck. Saving anyone else the pain I just went thru
Dang you actually covered it. I hope to see more of this OS in gaming and emulation. Love your videos and you're channel is honestly one of the one's I look out for when stuff like this gets released.
For those with missing Wifi Drivers, Finally solved it. I had to force the installation to go into Audit mode, CTRL+SHIFT+F3, I downloaded the adapter drivers to another thumb drive, then go into the device manager, find the broke network adapter, update its drivers from thumb drive, then reboot into OOBE and finish the installation. Bobs your uncle.
This would be perfect for those HDMI PC sticks also, many of them shipped with 60gb drives and are unusable now. This could potentialy bring a lot of tech back to life! Great vid.
It would be cool if there was like a Tiny11 preset for NTLite or even a standalone script / utility for making the necessary modifications to the system files. This way Microsoft will have basically no legal ground to stop the OS from getting into the hands of users. Additionally such a script could be open source, allowing the community to make improvements. Even if it is a closed source utility, there would be potential for custom presets that work better than in NTLite. It would also make Windows modification more accessible
Something like MSMG toolkit and CTT winutil?
The developer actually left NTLite "Auto-saved.xml" script inside the ISO.
Chris Titus Tech has a gamer preset for 10 and 11. It trims a lot out including the MS store app.
You can take this tiny iso and cut it more with NTLite)
I saw a video from Craft Computing that goes over a GitHub utility that does exactly this. You can even choose what gets removed, what each "service" does, etc. Can't recall what the utility's called though
One problem brought up by others is security updates. They may not work with Tiny 11. Can you check on this?
You'll need to keep the Tiny11 PC disconnected from the internet in order to allay security concerns.
The biggest security concern of Windows is Microsoft themselves. They collect and phone home about everything you do.
@@alx8439 - I have PiHole running. Seems to do a good job of blocking this. Also blocks Roku. Kinda nifty.
I still want all of my updates for Windows, though.
@@Zoyx sure, your choice. But to me, the rule of thumb is: if it's working - don't update it
@@alx8439 yup. Unless I hear about a major security patch issue, I tend not to. Especially after 3-4 years. I've had too many last-updates from Apple that brought my device to a crawl. Never again.
I love the idea of debloated windows, but it is always a big security risk on dailying a modified windows build that you're not sure is trustworthy. Maybe this one is, i don't know.
Personally I wouldn't risk it. It's not from an official source and you have no idea what's on it. If your system is running this slow then ie would be a good idea to either install Linux, Windows 10 or save some money and upgrade.
You can make your own custom install.
been running ghoste spectres isos for 2 years never had an issue and i have it on multiple systems still requires a key and has defender and official updates but extremely lightweight
I know the guy behind tiny11 and has said what programs he used.
its called MSMG Toolkit and you can use it too for free.
I have used it for a making a minimal windows 10 1607 install and works perfectly
@@josephdias5859 Same never had no issues with ghost spectre since he started
This appears to be a great option for older PCs. In the past I have resorted to Linux distributions for keeping end of life Windows laptops in a usable state, but with mixed results. Thank you for the video.
If someone has an older PC, it cannot support beyond Directx 9, so there is no point in it having beyond Windows 7, which already uses far less resources than Windows 11, and also has lite versions that use even less.
@@lepayen i have older like 13 year's old pc and i can run w10 with out problem.
@@mpischannel1832 Did you even read my entire comment? Because your response would assume I was saying that you can not run windows 10, which has absolutely not one thing to do with my comment...
@lepayen Not all the comment but now i read it
It's called move to Linux lol
Tiny 11 looks cool but i still prefer using Linux for older systems.
Autohotkey is perfect for windows. You can customize buttons to go directly where you want to go. Anything on windows system you can customize to your needs. Wanna run a certain game, press a button and go directly there no waiting. Need notepad, press a button. Watch a MP4, press a button. Customize the PC anyway you like with autohotkey.
@@100Bucks nah
I prefer running every thing with python, shellscript, and rofi on Linux
This seems like the perfect thing to keep older windows tablets running a modernized OS. Something like a Surface 4 with those 6th gen i7s and i5s and 4-8GB of RAM would benefit quite a lot.
Do you know if the touch features will work?
@@dagoat3162 I have 0 clue. Only one way to find out I guess.
@@dagoat3162 there's a possibility they removed touch drivers so it's not gonna work, but I'm not sure, needs testing
@@丶丷 Thanks for the reply, I'm hoping they didn't remove the touch drivers
I might give it a go on my surface go.
Those 200-300 meg idle seems a bit dubious since
1. Its not idling at 300 megs with spare memory but bottlenecked to 300 megs
2. The SSD usage is 100% on both images and that could mean the system is swapping to drive since there’s not enough memory which could make the ssd wear out much quicker, and since ssds arent as fast as system memory (RAM) its going to be a bit laggy as well.
For machines with really low memory I would recommend a light weight linux distribution instead because you can actually have a low resource usage and have spare memory left for doing actual work.
Even tho most people dont like linux and dont wanna use it cus it’s unfamiliar, its a better alternative for these lower end machines. + theres no microsoft / google spyware and its free.
“No ms / g spyware” boy do I have a bridge to sell you
@@umamifan don't understand. Please explain to me.(really)
@@Jhakaas_Jai As requested: The expression means that the person you are saying it to is gullible enough to believe you when you offer to sell them a well know landmark as if you owned it. It's an old expression usually associated with the Brooklyn Bridge and very gullible bumpkins visiting the "big city" for the first time. ;-]
@@robertcartier5088 I was asking about if linux has spyware or not.....if it has please name them and if you know how to remove them. I use linux so.....
@@Jhakaas_Jai and yet, none of that was in the question you actually asked. Nevermind. Good luck.
Really cool. I am concerned about the security implications of the OS personally.
Yeah, I think I would try it on a vm first
Go for linux
For people who are confused like me.
The files are called B1 and B2 for Beta1 and Beta2 (2 is newer). The torrent does NOT include version with no system requirements, but Rufus can already take care of that for you.
Mine has no wifi? Any ideas?
@@kingfish600 I am in the same boat... let me know if you figure it out.
@@kingfish600 connect to ethernet and let windows download wifi drivers for your wifi adapter
I know more or less what they remove or with which programs they could do it (I did it myself, but it takes a while), it's not magic, it's just knowing which processes are the ones that almost nobody uses, especially if it's only for playing games or office.
Could you please tell me? I'd like to do this to my windows 10 nuc which has trouble to run great with all the bloatware.
@@Phoenix_1991 it's a long list of what to do but the primary target of debloat windows 10 and 11 is on UWP Apps.
@Feisal Jauhari Tufail
this, I don't know if my post appeared because I put a link, just in case, as it says here.
Actually there’s a lot more to it that that. It removes telemetry stuff as well, etc. it’s way better than running vainilla Windows 10 or 11 and trying to strip it down. This is based off of Enterprise images.
@@MarcosCodas does it require Enterprise license key to activate?
I've tested a bunch of Windows 7 and 10 _Lite_ versions over the course of the years and I always run into problems after a while. At first it seems to run fine and snappy but then a game won't run because of some thing the was removed; programs won't work properly out of the blue, Windows Update will glitch, driver issues may appear, etc. It's like playing with the unexpected. These days I rather prefer to install the full version of Windows 10 or 11 and from that just make my own tweaks with third party tools (Winaero, ThisIsWin11, DControl, Windows Ultimate Toolbox, and whatever I find usefull), and even by only doing this I still have gone through issues (but by only tweaking the basics you can get a big improvement, just like these problematic stripped down versions). So I don't think is worth it installing this kinda of modified version on your main computer, maybe on a secondary on. Having to throubleshoot stuff and never finding an answer and then having to format it again is really frustating.
I recognize your expertise sir. However, I want to ask. Does this lite OS not come with updates or optimizations?
@@troyguererro0898 nope no ability to update. Optimizations are none only are just removing apps
Yeahhhh everyone's all curious about this but a lot of those people don't understand Windows well. MS puts so much shit on it that isn't bloatware, which is the only thing most think about. I am skipping all these lite versions and going to Linux w/ my retro laptops!! (first-time Linux user) 😎
@@troyguererro0898 Same happened for me. Cannot update security updates. And other updates. Some say it is because onedrive is missing. Trying to add those folders back in WinSxS and see.
@@LordGryllwotth man, it sounds like a real hassle huh. What programs are you trying to install?
Great video as always. We would also love a video that compare gaming and emulation between tiny 11 and a stock Windows 11 install to see if there is an actual difference.
Yeah.
It's pretty funny that this is considered "tiny". The old Atari ST ran just fine with 0.000512 GB of RAM and zero disk space.
This could work great with the Steam Deck, be it on SD card or SSD, it would definitely open up storage beyond the OS on the medium used, not to mention more RAM for games, even with the UMA buffer set to 4GB.
Definitely would like to see a vid on it!
This was my thought as well, hope he does a video on it for dual boot.
I second this, really hope ETA Prime does a video on this.
GOD YES please! I'm sure I could DIY, but it'd be nice to see a run thru by my fave geek.
What's the virtualization capabilities of the Deck? Rather than dual boot for the rare times Windows is entirely needed, I'd be more interested in seeing Tiny11 virtualized with relevant file storage local to the Deck itself; essentially, make Tiny11 an application via a VM environment that points to a folder for all the Windows-relevant programs and files.
The one hiccup I think there is in that for me is IIRC xbox game services aren't here.. though if they can be installed, and things update normally? I would 100% reload my WinDeck with this.
I installed this on my AOKZOE handheld and it works for some games, but most require some services that have been removed. The performance delta wasn't worth it in my opinion
You can’t use Xbox game pass so I didn’t end up using it on my aokzoe
freaking awesome! I'm now using this build on my HP laptop. i5-8250u / 16GB Ram. yeah, it's overkill to run this on my laptop, but i despise the bloatware in windows. using this build is way better than running the debloat ps scripts. this build appears to be the Windows Enterprise version. I have an msdn account through work and it took my Windows 10 Pro product license key without issue. thanks for shining a light on Tiny11.
Better than Mini Os?
I've been hearing about Tiny11. Honestly I'm mostly interested which drawbacks it has. To be so extremely shrunk down, it must have lost some capabilities. What is still left? What functions did we loose? Is it still secure? Do we have Windows Defender / Firewall, etc.? Do we have updates available? These are all important questions in my opinion that haven't been answered. And not gonna lie, I'm gonna educate myself right now.
But would be great content for a follow up video ;)
Let us know what you find.
From what I know, updates from Microsoft aren't available so I don't know how or even if you can get security updates.
Id be skeptical, especially in terms of security, not just in terms of updates. you should probably just make ur own custom windows iso, its pretty ez theres tutorials.
Love to see a follow up on this as well
You'll need to read articles on it. Most RUclipsrs cover the most basic crap w/ these OSes. They just want the views from something unordinary like a light W11 but don't actually care about helping much
I was wondering why you hadn't talked about Windows customized version as they improve the 1% and 0.1% FPS on many many games making the experience much smoother.
Great video!
can you elaborate? is it called "windows customized version" or are you calling it that? i'm interested
@@vdfritzz search for "Ghost Spectre Windows 11 Superlite" and go down the rabbit hole.
@@vdfritzz its the windows he's talking about in this video, downloadlink is in the discription..
Is this something that would benefit steamdeck users who prefer running windows?
I presently use full blown Windows 11 (very little bloat on it) and it runs fine on and old laptop with unsupported hardware that has a maximum of 4G Ram, and it is usually running at 2 - 2.5GRam of memory, and works fine. About the same Memory usage as this Tiny 11?
Is this worth doing on a gaming computer that cant use windows 11? Edit: i have everything on this computer, all my files. just i cant upgrade to windows 11 bc i dont have a TPM chip and wondering if tiny 11 is good for gaming?
It would rock if this could be installed in an ARM device. The AYN Odin Base suddenly looks like it could handle Windows. 😍
@@obvious_giraffe8386 yes, but it's not minimal
@@obvious_giraffe8386 I'm sure they will get right on that. 👍
Since the other pc handhelds have been thrown out there I may as well bring up the one I preordered! Seeing a video of this running on the OXP2 would be sweet! Also, is there any mention of the telemetry being stripped out as well? I imagine it is but it’s something that still needs to be mentioned/asked.
I installed on a VM within my Proxmox a couple of days back. Set it up with 1.5Gb RAM and 2 vCPUs. It's rocking it! I use that for random stuff and testing usability for general purposes and going great so far.
I'll do the same, I needed a windows sandbox. Thanks for sharing your experience
I did it with a Dual Xeon E5-2690 V2 assigned 2 CPU’s with 3 cores/6 threads(6cores/12threads total)(host) and only 16Gb of memory. And it runs pretty good. IBM System X3650 M4 with 2x Quaddro K6000 and 192Gb of Ram. I also run XPenology DS3622xsp on it Alpine Linux for my docker containers(pi-hole, Frigate, portainer, Odoo, Syncthing, nginx proxy manager, Home Assistant and unbound) as Well as HiveOS and Kali. Those old servers are really versatile and powerful. But Tiny11 missed too much features. So installed Ghost Spectre afterwards. It’s way better
How did you manage to install on proxmox I'm trying to do same but somehow struggling and no idea why
@@manojkhatri1788 I used GhostSpectre it installed with no problems immediately through Proxmox with an AMD R5 GPU Passthrough 12 Xeon E5-2670-V2 cores(24 threads) set as Host Processor and 16 Gb of the 128Gb of memory assigned. I think GhostSpectre is way better than Tiny11
@@manojkhatri1788 What are you struggling with? what problem do you have?
Hello ETA prime I was just curious if the ROG ally would work really well with the tiny 11 install and do you think the Ally could benefit from it?
Working on getting Windows 7 running on my Ryzen 7950x with 128gb of RAM
Until then using ZOrin OS on it, and using WIndows 7 still like a power user dream in 2023 on my FX-8350.
DON'T INSTALL WINDOWS FROM RANDOM WEBSITES
its fine...he;s been making these windows versions for a long time
@@TechGuru666 Sorry but no. Gonna need a bit more then that. Doing this is a huge security nightmare.
@@DarudeSandworm so I guess you'd be against installing some non mainstream linux os then as well?
@@TechGuru666 If its not open source (somehow) or if the distro isn't large enough for there to be a lot of eyes on said code I'd suggest against installing said distro.
I'm shocked you've not put a disclaimer about downloading image's from an unofficial source
It's not a official OS. It's sources are already unofficial. Also this is for older or under spec systems.
Love the vid, maybe try Tiny 11 on some PC handhelds like the Ayaneo devices to see if it squeezes any more performance out of games on limited gaming hardware
+1 for this!
I have a 7-year old laptop that runs with 4GB RAM, and a 1.6GHz Intel Pentium Processor, so I think Tiny11 would run there because all I do with that is browse the internet.
Wondering how tiny11 would run on the steamdeck. Might be exactly what i've been looking for.
I have some major concerns:
A) Will there be any problems down the line trying to install software or hardware such as a basic webcam?
B) Is it as secure as vanilla Win11? Can one use it for online banking?
C) Will it not become slow over the course of months of use?
Personally, on a laptop with low specs I would use some lightweight Linux distro. It should be much more secure and more reliable.
My big question really is related to B, will security updates still work?
Use Linux for banking
Webcams don't work, at least on Tiny 10. No issues with software so far, though. 6 months in. I get security updates with the latest version of Tiny 10 and use it for banking, not issues so far. But I do most of my banking from my phone. 6 months in, it's not significantly slower than it was when I first installed it. But I recommend Tiny 10 over Tiny 11 because the development is much more mature. Tiny 11 is newer and some things don't yet work, that do on Tiny 10.
@@MarcosCodas
Thank you for your detailed reply! Very informative!!
I don't think even stock windows 11 is secure for online banking lol
I wonder if this works on (older) surfaces, too. Would love an in-depth review about the OS with advantages and disadvantages and possible secuity issues.
Feels like it‘s to good to be true. But thanks for the video and making me aware! More, please! ❤
@@triynizzles I installed on my old surface go and I can't access the Microsoft app store and when I try to install chrome or edge I get an error message.
@@triynizzles pentium r
@@triynizzles yea I moved over the chrome installer and edge... Both give me errors
@@triynizzles Thank's for letting me know (replying to the original answer here), great news!
I guess I'll try it, soon!
It doesn’t work lol
I have a few questions about this Tiny11 de-bloated OS
1) What about the Cumulative Update (AKA Patch Tuesday monthly updates)? Like fixed Zero Day Vulnerabilities, and other things.
2) Is hardware drivers are stable? Like the NVIDIA driver update did.
3) Is does have a Microsoft Defender installed? Security is a key to prevent a malicious software.
From my test I can still update using windows update.. What I notice on my first windows update it update the cumulative and defender
THE DOWLOAD IS SO SLOW AND THE TORRENT DOSE NOT SUPORT THE VERSION WE ARE ALL DOWLOADING
My laptop is much much better than these laptops and i still can't install windows 11
My laptop specs:
Core i5 6th gen (6200u)
Intel hd 520 4gb
8gb ram (2 sticks)
256gb ssd
I wonder if i can install windows 11 with some tricks
Can you do some bench mark about this version on a steamdeck or gpdwin4 to see the difference ?
Likely a terrible experience likely remains a terrible experience with regard to gaming.
This would be a good way to dualboot for the Steam Deck IF some games in your library are hostile to Proton, but would only dual boot when playing said game.
The readme for this describes it as "non-serviceable" which I interpret as "no security updates". This machine will over time, become more and more vulnerable.
Windows is inherently insecure being a Microsoft product. The (((people))) in Microsoft already have your data.
TempleOS is the most secure.
With no more ram than 384 megs, then that's a old machine. Last I recall, only PC133 offered ram in that amount. DDR2 may have?... can't remember... but for a fact DDR3 did not.
I remember used Tiny 7 and Tiny XP back in the day. Great stuff.
I still use a tiny 7 from Experience sometimes, real good
I would be interested in gaming and emulation testing. I am still on windows 10 and hate the idea of getting even more bloat to upgrade.
This is not for gaming
Or emulation
Would love to see this on the steamdeck or really any x86 handhelds in general, especially the weaker Vega systems
why the hell would you put this windows crap on steamdeck?? Its got a way superior and free os
@@rikxdragneel5290 better game compatibility, and for a lot of folks, Linux desktop environment is a lot harder to use
@@zigenstern almost all games are playable perfectly on linux nowadays cept for the ones that implements a kernel level anti cheat which is clearly a violation to the user privacy
@@zigenstern and also linux is way easier to install and use than windows
@@rikxdragneel5290 for your maybe, not for everyone
Question regarding Tiny11, will it completely delete all my files if im on Windows 11 and i switch over to Tiny11? thanks.
This OS has a watermark in the lower right corner says pc not support and will not get updates. Can't run Windows on an external drive with out some modificatrion, setup will tell you it won't install to a usb drive.
You're better off using a debloat script. it's safer.
I run Debian on older machines. it's amazing.
My laptop runs Mint XFCE on a 15 year old Celeron! 🤣 It's still pretty quick, but just for light office tasks and only a bit of retro gaming.
This is awesome. I can use some older PCs that I can turn into simple arcades using launchbox well bigbox. This great to hear.
What would the difference be between installing full windows 11 on a high-end system and installing tiny 11 on the same high-end system? Would it give you more/less performance?
It won't necessarily give you a massive performance boost imo. The point of Tiny11 is to get rid of all the bloatware/3rd party nonsense. Another alternative to this would be Ghost spectre's windows 10/11 superlite. I have been using it for months on my main pc and others too
The impact would be minor at best on a high end system, the load the bloat puts on you system is prety negligible on high end systems so removing it won't help much. It really only matters for lower end systems.
My normal windows 10 has almost the same ram usage if I put only 1gb of ram in my pc 🗿🗿🗿
If the author provided the script or steps of what to cut to manually make the ISO, instead of a premade one I would try it. But let's say I had been burned with premade Windows images in the past.
That was interesting.
I have an old (circa 2011) Toshiba laptop with an AMD E450. I tried both the Tiny 10 and the Tiny11 and the 11 beat the pants off the 10. Ran 11 better than it ran 10 or even W7 Home, which it came with. Having 8 GB RAM is probably one of the reasons. All the current updates installed without any problem or errors. It even pulled a digital W11 Pro license out of MS, versus Tiny 10 not registering at all. And as my W7 was for Home, I am surprised.
Snappy is not quite what I would call it but much less laggy than W10 Home was.
too bad the windows update turns it into a bloated windows again
@ETAPrime - I bought the same model laptop from Walmart yesterday, which was delivered this morning. I've since installed Tiny 11 following your video as closely as possible (you did skip some details), and Tiny 11 gets stuck looking for a network. Wifi worked with the original software (Windows 10), so I'm trying to figure out what's happening. Did you have to do anything special to get wifi working on the new install?
I am in the EXCACT same situation as you!! No Network adapter.
Same!!!! What the heck!!
@etaprime any thoughts?
Finally solved it. I had to force the installation to go into Audit mode, CTRL+SHIFT+F3, I downloaded the adapter drivers to another thumb drive, then go into the deivce manager, find the broke network adapter, update its drivers from thumb drive, then reboot into OOBE and finish the installation. Bobs your uncle.
@@slash2podcast You rock! I already had the drivers downloaded and copied to my thumb drive, but I needed to learn about audit mode. I'm writing this comment on the laptop from Chrome. Thanks for posting the solution!
I LIKE the idea, I'm going to do some tests to make sure it's safe for me.
1. Run it on multiple anti viruses
2. After the installation, imma run Wireshark to see if something sus is there, re run an anti-virus inside the system
Are the context menus in this fixed? One thing I didn't like about Windows 11 is having to click to show more options.
I installed this as my primary gaming OS. I think there were a few more things that could have been stripped out of the build - I ran Windows Decrapifier on it, and got rid of a few more things. It runs, but some updates don't work (no big deal to me). Hardware seems to install okay. My system is a AMD Ryzen 9 5950X w 128 GB Ram and a Nvidia 3080ti.
I'm kinda curious when I hear about builds like this, is there a reason for that much ram (I.e. running professional software?) cuz that sounds like total overkill for even high end gaming.
@@Bustermachine No particular reason, just did it because I could. ;) The computer was to be used as a Hackintosh once upon a time, but I bought a Mac Studio for that...
I'm interested in using this for my gaming PC as well. I play Star Citizen and feel this OS would benefit gameplay even though I already have a good build. Have you ran into any issues?
I'd be interested to hear how this goes as a gaming OS as well.
Does the Xbox/Gamepass app still work?
Is your primary gaming OS offline only? Why do you think security patches not working can be shrugged off? I'm very curious about that viewpoint.
This should be great for steam deck dual boot, simple, basic and quick
It's better to install windows 10 Enterprise ltsc iot, because it has minimal bloatware as tiny11 but it has the official security updates and full functionality not like tiny11
@@DeadAmericanBestAmerican How? Microsoft stopped selling it in Jan.
@@mgabrysSF You need to sail the high seas to obtain it. You can look in Reddit for more answers
@@DeadAmericanBestAmerican nah - I'm going to have legacy and work data running on it. Needs to be legit. Plus -1 for even saying 'reddit'. XD
Good option, i haven't hear of this build so i will definitively take a look. Not sure if you know already or heard but there is also ReviOS, it has windows 10 and 11 versions and they are more robust that this TinyOs but at the same time lighter that the regular Microsoft builds. I'm running that on my pc and is way faster than with the regular builds.
ghoste spectre windows 11 kickass
Nexus lite's builds are much lighter in general but idk if anticheat is working
I tried it in VirtualBox, but after it did a Windows update, it bloated it right back up.
I was waiting on someone to say that. Every debloating script I've ever ran on Win10 or 11 always had to be done over after a feature update. This sounded interesting, but I'll stick with my Arch Linux. Have a good 'un.
You need a 64 bit CPU, and a DirectX 12 GPU is preferred. The iso can be burned on a DVD. So du don't need a system that can boot from USB.
You get a thumbs up because you're the first person I've seen that's actually mentioned the 64bit CPU requirement. There's lots of people saying no CPU requirement in the comments when it's not quite true.
I'd love to see a battery life comparison in a slightly higher end laptop.
After downloading and installing Tiny11 on my 1TB SSD drive using Rufus, I excitedly booted it up. However, my excitement was short-lived when I realized that it was already using around 20GB of storage, far exceeding my expectations for it that advertised as using only around 8GB to 9GB. It felt eerily similar to a stock Windows OS as it automatically installed drivers and programs, which is a rare sight for a modded Windows ISO. To add insult to injury, I was astonished to see that Windows Update was enabled on Tiny11. How peculiar, I thought to myself. Isn't this the very feature that Tiny11 boasts of being free from? I couldn't help but feel skeptical about my installation process, but the lack of bloatware or pre-installed browser reassured me that it was indeed Tiny11. Nevertheless, the possibility of an update reinstalling bloatware and defeating the purpose of using Tiny11 loomed over my head like a dark cloud.
that’s why you run Ghost Spectre. Way better than Tiny11
@@ernestoditerribile
Indeed!
I went straight to Ghost Spectre & did not bother trying Tiny11
Is this OS (Tiny Windows 11) can support on 32 Bit ? Bcus i need this OS in 32 Bit form.
What about windows update? does it work? Will it override the settings and install all those deleted bloatware with next major update, like it used to do with windows 10?
Would love if there's a Tiny 11 iso but for ARM laptops.
This would be amazing running on Macbooks M1/M2 via Parallels.
He just released that, check his channel for a download link
@@luluthecat1570thanks for the info
For slower and older systems, I also recommend installing an adblocker for web browsers. Not only does it speed some websites up, but it prevents popups and potential malware. I do this to any laptop I get from boomers and elderly folk. Saves me the headache I'll get from fixing their future mistakes. I ask them beforehand if they want to keep it or not.
yep - that's the reason I still use firefox. I've got a spate of extensions for adblocks, and some really nice tools for controlling video playback (magnification etc) as well as custom youtube handlers to filter out their autoplay nonsense and ads that try to get around adblock software.
this is a really helpful version of windows for those that dualboot their steam decks. I can get around 5 and a half hours using this iso over the normal stock windows.
Would have liked to have seen the memory usage on a clean install of Windows 11 so all the preinstalled OEM bloatware was gone.
windows 11 have bloatware besides the oem installed bloat
I'd still recommend a 4gb ram system, unless you plan on never updating or having anything load at boot and never having an antivirus, slowly the ram amount required will creep back up near to usual required amounts.
source: myself who runs a de-bloated os on my laptop
Windows defender is sufficient if you don't go on shady sites.
Be careful, the tiny11 maker is an ukraine propaganda so this windows could be have some bad code in there
I'd be interested to see if this has reduced power draw compared to stock Windows 11 on something like the WIN4 / AYANEO2.
Outside of the APU itself, fan, disk, wireless and screen, the background OS is the largest remainder of power consumption so it could have some marginal improvement on power draw & battery life
EDIT: Also curious how this compares to "Atlas OS", which is a very similar project
This is also something I'm hoping for. Take all that bloat out, and ideally it should be better, but it's still windows.
I prefer the Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC for my emulation machine. I stripped out pretty much everything I don't need and have it running as an appliance with ES-DE as the frontend. Works a treat! I'd prefer a Linux distro instead but flexibility with my DS4 controllers just isn't there (such as DS4Windows + HIDHide provides).
If you install this Tiny 11 ISO image is it going to authenticate with the Microsoft servers as a valid activation?
Yes, use a modified iso which we have no idea what modifications were made (added?). This is definitely not legal either.
Will something happen to my data if I change my OS from Windows 10 to Tiny 11?
dude how you customize background at 0.38Sec timeline of video can you make video
Harbour of Tech's Tiny 11 can run on 256mb ram, that's even better than this!
still bigger than Linux and MacOS, still a resource hog 😂
This, even stripped down consumes so much resources and there are still so much running in the background that even this is slow. Nah, you guys enjoy your little "Winblows" ride, I have been enjoying the use of Linux (Without systemd) for over a decade now, everything works out of the box, no viruses, no malware, no "scheduled background tasks" that I did not endorse, no calling home and sending all your telemetry, just plain CPU cycles used when it should.
After thirty or so distro hops I've settled on Garuda (Arch>Manjaro>Garuda) for now because it's rolling, default BTRFS, has a fantastic set of system tools, and once you get rid of the inspired-by-fourteen-year-old-gamers theme it's a smooooooth system. It's still systemd but I've never had issues with that myself. Up to the last couple months I've been purely XFCE, but the latest KDE has spoiled me even on my lower-end stuff. It's a lot lighter-acting than I remember it from when I started dabbling in 2014. Enjoy your 'Nix!
I have RTX 3080 + RTX 2070, 9.36 TB HDD, 1 TB NVMe SSD and 480 GB SSD storage, & 32 GB RAM on my system. But it stills bugs me off that useless windows uses too many system resources. I usually work with Blender & Unreal Engine 5 & Gaea and some other 3d stuff and I needed every piece of my hardware resources... Probably I'm gonna give it a shot that tiny 11 or tiny 10.
Remove the windows store and can you fix the unbearably stupid task bar?
I got Asus with 4gb ram and installed Kali Linux on it. Works well
I'm confused if I should use b1 or b2 to get the less ram usage, i tried b1 and it uses at Average 2gb of ram when you are on desktop, and after some optimization it uses 1.8 or 1.7gb
Windows should offer this as an option. Even if it’s a Regedit during the firsts install boot.
I’ve tried slim Windows 11 ISO’s. They almost always end up with issues if you do try installing certain apps. Since some system files either broken or are removed.
I doubt that Windows Updates will work or they reinstall all the crap back
My question is I have a newer laptop but I’d like to try it out and the question I have is will it work with windows? Hello I really enjoy using that. Without being signed into windows.
installed Tiny11 on my AMD A6 processor , 8GB DDR3 ram, 320GB HDD desktop PC.. installation is straight forward and to all drivers, no problems.. yes it ran smooth.. I still reinstalled Edge, but Im using Brave browser. Updated windows, ran no problems. Installed some apps from MS Store like the Messenger, Facebook , and Roblox (just in case I want to play some games there), I can say its still faster compared to its full blown setup, considering Im using HDD..
But it's still using 50% ram without any software running.😩