I am non English native, and this podcast is absolutely phenomenal for me to learn the language, there aren't a lot of expressions and is concise and simple - this makes me feel confident because I can learn it with a little bit of practice whereas to become a native, I don't think so it's an easy job. Both you have a sweet voice.
I really enjoyed this episode! I was surprised that the resoundingly quiet conditions of the pandemic weren't touched upon. I live very close to a main road and the cessation of constant traffic noise instigated a profound change in me. I was able to just let my thoughts unravel in their own time and absorb history and philosophy books! It was wonderful! The modern world is too busy, too noisy, too energetic. Also, my favourite author was jiddu Krishnamurti...an anti-philosophy philosopher! He taught the embracing of silence, to face one's thoughts without interruption. I wonder if Overthink will present something on his work? I appreciate that he probably lies outside the academic establishments conventional sphere but that in itself could make it all the more interesting! Thanks for the output.
It's inevitable that we form some sort of conception of the podcast hosts, a biography that fills in the blanks. Which dramatically changed, learning that Ellie was an earnestly devout Christian in her teenage years. In this context, not surprising that it ended up being phenomenology, existentialist philosophy. Reminds of how many German philosophers were the sons of ministers, or first studied theology, or both. Nietzsche and Heidegger immediately spring to mind, but there are many, many more. In any case, such a revelation that I couldn't help remarking on it.
Great discussion. I wonder what the two of you would have to say about ghosting in this context: how we try to interpret silence, or weaponize it. Or even strategic silence placed in a conversation to invite a wanted response.
I had just come in from a day of gardening . Yeah, spring is here! I laid down on my bed thinking, "I just want silence " Then I heard a notice on my computer, and it was about your podcast on silence. With no offence to Elle and David, I decided not to listen to the podcast to have my silence. I find silence is a luxury today, meaning the icons of philosophy ( pre-internet)relied on silence to think, not to stream... I live on a farm with 38 acres of private trails through the forest and l walk in silence alone every day. I will comment further when I do listen after my silence.
The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal name. The nameless is the beginning of heaven and earth. The named is the mother of ten thousand things. -- Tao Te Ching
There are some anti-Semitic tropes in Heidegger's Schwarze Hefte, so it's a bit worse than just silence. On the other hand, ending speeches with Heil Hitler was not unusual when you were the Rector of a university in 1933/34. He did quit, disillusioned. In his personal life, his behaviour towards Jews seems to have been inconsistent, contradictory, helping some, ignoring others. Not to mention Hannah Arendt, who remained close to the end. I think he was just a product of an extremely conservative-nationalist background, and also somewhat naive. There's a great term in German -- "weltfremd".
Ahhhh, I really disliked the debate story (well, I mean, the story was fine and cute, but the implicit context): the notion of being assigned a position, and then looking to 'win' is such a poor venue for actually getting to the truth of complex arguments. So if it is what it is, essentially the conceit of winning a short-term plurality of the judges and audience, then it is a cynical affair, and therefore tantamount to deploying a reverent silence cynically. The fact that it worked speaks well to the difficulty of language, of somehow contriving expression to not seem trivial, rote or too narrow. But surely this context, of the literally conceited deployment of silence, shows us how much we should value the smallness and vulnerability of language, in the effacement of overawing silence.
I am non English native, and this podcast is absolutely phenomenal for me to learn the language, there aren't a lot of expressions and is concise and simple - this makes me feel confident because I can learn it with a little bit of practice whereas to become a native, I don't think so it's an easy job.
Both you have a sweet voice.
I really enjoyed this episode! I was surprised that the resoundingly quiet conditions of the pandemic weren't touched upon. I live very close to a main road and the cessation of constant traffic noise instigated a profound change in me. I was able to just let my thoughts unravel in their own time and absorb history and philosophy books! It was wonderful! The modern world is too busy, too noisy, too energetic. Also, my favourite author was jiddu Krishnamurti...an anti-philosophy philosopher! He taught the embracing of silence, to face one's thoughts without interruption. I wonder if Overthink will present something on his work? I appreciate that he probably lies outside the academic establishments conventional sphere but that in itself could make it all the more interesting! Thanks for the output.
Silence speaks Volumes 😇
Great lecture style. Nice work.
It's inevitable that we form some sort of conception of the podcast hosts, a biography that fills in the blanks. Which dramatically changed, learning that Ellie was an earnestly devout Christian in her teenage years. In this context, not surprising that it ended up being phenomenology, existentialist philosophy. Reminds of how many German philosophers were the sons of ministers, or first studied theology, or both. Nietzsche and Heidegger immediately spring to mind, but there are many, many more. In any case, such a revelation that I couldn't help remarking on it.
Great discussion. I wonder what the two of you would have to say about ghosting in this context: how we try to interpret silence, or weaponize it. Or even strategic silence placed in a conversation to invite a wanted response.
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@@OverthinkPodcastPhilosophy cool. Thanks!
My favorite topic :)
@Pushiswin Let's not talk about it.
@Pushiswin yea...
I played this podcast on mute.
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Hell yea.
Me too; this way, I experienced unspeakable things
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I had just come in from a day of gardening . Yeah, spring is here! I laid down on my bed thinking, "I just want silence " Then I heard a notice on my computer, and it was about your podcast on silence. With no offence to Elle and David, I decided not to listen to the podcast to have my silence. I find silence is a luxury today, meaning the icons of philosophy ( pre-internet)relied on silence to think, not to stream... I live on a farm with 38 acres of private trails through the forest and l walk in silence alone every day. I will comment further when I do listen after my silence.
The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal name. The nameless is the beginning of heaven and earth. The named is the mother of ten thousand things.
-- Tao Te Ching
There are some anti-Semitic tropes in Heidegger's Schwarze Hefte, so it's a bit worse than just silence. On the other hand, ending speeches with Heil Hitler was not unusual when you were the Rector of a university in 1933/34. He did quit, disillusioned. In his personal life, his behaviour towards Jews seems to have been inconsistent, contradictory, helping some, ignoring others. Not to mention Hannah Arendt, who remained close to the end. I think he was just a product of an extremely conservative-nationalist background, and also somewhat naive. There's a great term in German -- "weltfremd".
Ahhhh, I really disliked the debate story (well, I mean, the story was fine and cute, but the implicit context): the notion of being assigned a position, and then looking to 'win' is such a poor venue for actually getting to the truth of complex arguments. So if it is what it is, essentially the conceit of winning a short-term plurality of the judges and audience, then it is a cynical affair, and therefore tantamount to deploying a reverent silence cynically. The fact that it worked speaks well to the difficulty of language, of somehow contriving expression to not seem trivial, rote or too narrow. But surely this context, of the literally conceited deployment of silence, shows us how much we should value the smallness and vulnerability of language, in the effacement of overawing silence.
Choosing silence was a great risk for winning. So I think they prized them for their belief and risk as much as for the undebatable debate.