It appears that the female Katanas has XS Grip 2 instead of XS Edge. That's a pretty big difference and with the absence of a midsole would make the shoe much better in volumes (aka indoor climbing)
Haha cool! I still have a pair of original Mantra's. Every once in a while I take them to the gym for a session. I really loved them when they came out. It came in a really small square box, and the shoe's were folded in the box. Also enjoyed the mantra S at the time. Not to excited about the looks of the new mantra. Could have been a bit more classy in stead of flashy for my tast. Still excited to try them again!
I still have the blue original Mantra as well! Never wore it much, but I’ve been bouldering with it indoors lately, barefoot climbing with sticky rubber! You can fold it and put it in your pocket!! Killer slipper, happy climbing...👍👊
Oooo.... Maverinks for adults .... Love my Miuras and my Katanas but maverink was my go bouldering shoe untill they died....can't wait to try the Mantras 👍🏻👍🏻😎😎
I wear the Maverinks. They're decent, but I miss my Five Ten Projects. They're the best ultra sensitive shoe I've tried. Hope the Mantra can outdo them.
I was about to order a pair of Katana Lace, but just saw this video.. so guess I'm waiting. Would also be interested to the the Mantra and see how it competes with the Drago.
I wore the futura when I started climbing and it trained me on my footworks in climbing till this day I love the no edge system. Can’t wait for the mantra!! It’s the shoe that makes the climber
La sportiva has a great site with a chart of all their shoes and a video where they tell you what you have to look out for. I personally would go for a Katana or Otaki for bouldering and Kataki or Katana laces for lead.
Looking to buy this shoes for upper medium difficulty multi pitch climbing and vertical sport routes around 6c with tiny granite footholds. How should I size them? In scarpas, i downsize 0.5-1 size absolute maximum. In LaSportivas, i have comfortably tested and downsized 1.5 sizes. I am street shoes size 43, i wear 42.5 in my current Scarpa Instincts How do you think the Katana Laces will fit?
Both looks perfect. Those have to be worth to try. Only little concern I have is, what is durability of Mantra, since it has just 1.8mm sole. I have no-edge Genius with 3mm sole and I made the hole on the thumb after 6 months of use 2 times per week. But I thing they are not ment to be primary shoes, so well done anyway La Sportiva.
The (old/current) Katanas are such a great shoe. I already feel like they're a good balance between "tic, tak" precise edging and more flowy, smearing. For trad climbing in the UK, I think the only shoe to really rival them is the Anasazi Blancos that are no longer made - and possibly the Kataki, though it's a bit lacking in sensitivity out of the box. My fear with updates is always that they'll ruin a good shoe, but fairly reassured by Pietro's comments. I don't think I'll find much use for the Mantra on mountain volcanic rock! ;) Maybe if I spend more time in Italy and get strong enough to climb on their continuously overhanging limestone...Penso che gli Italiani non arrampicano niente che é meno di verticale.
I put the soft sole (XS Grip 2) on my Katana Laces and it improved the shoe so much in my opinion. Always called it the perfect climbing shoe. So I'm stoked to see it in production now and happy to try them out - so I think you should give them a go. My modded version is just as precise, but a bit more versatile and just sticks better to the rock.
I have the new ones, more radical turndown feels awesome. Toebox is roomier, I recommend you drop down by 1/2 size to take advantage of your toes being closer to the front edge in the newer version.
We should have it in stock by June, u should be able be to get it delivered to India but check our delivery pages to make sure… shop.epictv.com/en/shipping-fees
As they said in the video, the difference in climber weight affects friction levels seen for each rubber. light person climbing in xs grip = heavy person in xs edge, same friction
@@MrMoppeh I get that shoe structure and rubber will perform differently depending on weight, but that is solved by having different models so people can use whatever shoe fits their needs. The thing is, if someone with small low-volume feet likes to use the old Katana (because they like how they perform on them, regardless of how they would compare to heavier climbers), now they have to look for a different model. I say this as someone that occasionally buys women's climbing shoes because, for some brands, they fit my feet shape better. I'm not trying to be negative or anything, it just seems weird to have two shoes with different designs and materials and give them the same name.
From what I understand sizes will cross-over between the two models, so most people can decide between the softer and the harder one. From La Sportiva's point of view it makes a lot of sense, because you can get two different shoes out from the same last. Same thing happened with the Scarpa Drago LVs vs. yellow Dragos.
@@MrMoppeh if that was rlly the case the lower size men's shoes would have the woman's style and the larger woman's sizes would have the men's style. And yea, ik they aren't directly related but there's certainly a high corralation. The only real difference between men and woman shoes is woman tend to have narrower feet.
Don’t agree!! I’m female and my foot is massively lower volume compared to all the guys at the gym. To the point I can’t get a good fit. I want a low volume version!
I call bull crap on saying there is no difference in men and women's feet. Sure there will be guys with little girlie feet and some women with Sasquatch feet but those are not the norm they are exceptions.
With a wider/longer rubber patch on the female version of the Katana laces toe box, La Sportiva would have an all around shoe even for bouldering (both gender). Not a specialist, but a sort of 8.5 on 10 for any condition.
Pietro is a philosopher!!!
In a good way or?
would love to see a review of the mantra after real world use. looks innovative
I Love the katana! Can‘t wait to geht my hands on the new ones!
Try it 1/2 size smaller than the previous version, the new toe box is roomier.
Little fun fact I noticed: the pattern on the shoe (1:28) consists of the Japanese kanji characters for katana/sword.
Remember that the Japanese character was on the heel box in the previous version
I like the previous design, personally...
I don't wear LS and don't plan to, but it's fascinating hearing Pietro talk about his shoes!
The mantra looks really interesting. Really want to give both of those a try.
It appears that the female Katanas has XS Grip 2 instead of XS Edge. That's a pretty big difference and with the absence of a midsole would make the shoe much better in volumes (aka indoor climbing)
Makes sense, since it's a softer shoe and would be easier to smear with
Yes they did this with the Kataki as well
Love to see the Mantra back, love climbing in the originals ones back in the late 90s!
Haha cool! I still have a pair of original Mantra's. Every once in a while I take them to the gym for a session. I really loved them when they came out. It came in a really small square box, and the shoe's were folded in the box.
Also enjoyed the mantra S at the time.
Not to excited about the looks of the new mantra. Could have been a bit more classy in stead of flashy for my tast. Still excited to try them again!
I still have the blue original Mantra as well! Never wore it much, but I’ve been bouldering with it indoors lately, barefoot climbing with sticky rubber! You can fold it and put it in your pocket!! Killer slipper, happy climbing...👍👊
You might as well have sat on his lap 😂
Are the new katanas still set for a march 2022 release?
Mantra sounds very cool. And Pietro? What a lovely person 💕
Oooo.... Maverinks for adults .... Love my Miuras and my Katanas but maverink was my go bouldering shoe untill they died....can't wait to try the Mantras 👍🏻👍🏻😎😎
yeah, mantra look very similar to maverink. But they will double the price for sure. Maverink were a bargain for their Performance.
Have they discontinued the speedster? They're quite similar....
I wear the Maverinks. They're decent, but I miss my Five Ten Projects. They're the best ultra sensitive shoe I've tried. Hope the Mantra can outdo them.
I was about to order a pair of Katana Lace, but just saw this video.. so guess I'm waiting.
Would also be interested to the the Mantra and see how it competes with the Drago.
I`m a big fan of the Speedster and love the no edge technology, does this mean that Mantra will replace it?
Mantra looks like a great warm up and dynamic shoe!
I'm on the 4 resole of my maverinks and this mantra looks like a better version of those! Super looking forward to it!
Thank you for keeping the philosophy part in. Love it
I wore the futura when I started climbing and it trained me on my footworks in climbing till this day I love the no edge system. Can’t wait for the mantra!!
It’s the shoe that makes the climber
Yea no
I climb with scarpa velocity at the moment (entry level shoe) would be great to see a video on how to chose your second climbing shoes
La sportiva has a great site with a chart of all their shoes and a video where they tell you what you have to look out for.
I personally would go for a Katana or Otaki for bouldering and Kataki or Katana laces for lead.
Excited about the Mantra! I wonder if it's compatible with morton toe.
Looking to buy this shoes for upper medium difficulty multi pitch climbing and vertical sport routes around 6c with tiny granite footholds.
How should I size them? In scarpas, i downsize 0.5-1 size absolute maximum. In LaSportivas, i have comfortably tested and downsized 1.5 sizes.
I am street shoes size 43, i wear 42.5 in my current Scarpa Instincts
How do you think the Katana Laces will fit?
Both looks perfect. Those have to be worth to try. Only little concern I have is, what is durability of Mantra, since it has just 1.8mm sole. I have no-edge Genius with 3mm sole and I made the hole on the thumb after 6 months of use 2 times per week. But I thing they are not ment to be primary shoes, so well done anyway La Sportiva.
The (old/current) Katanas are such a great shoe. I already feel like they're a good balance between "tic, tak" precise edging and more flowy, smearing. For trad climbing in the UK, I think the only shoe to really rival them is the Anasazi Blancos that are no longer made - and possibly the Kataki, though it's a bit lacking in sensitivity out of the box. My fear with updates is always that they'll ruin a good shoe, but fairly reassured by Pietro's comments.
I don't think I'll find much use for the Mantra on mountain volcanic rock! ;) Maybe if I spend more time in Italy and get strong enough to climb on their continuously overhanging limestone...Penso che gli Italiani non arrampicano niente che é meno di verticale.
I put the soft sole (XS Grip 2) on my Katana Laces and it improved the shoe so much in my opinion. Always called it the perfect climbing shoe. So I'm stoked to see it in production now and happy to try them out - so I think you should give them a go. My modded version is just as precise, but a bit more versatile and just sticks better to the rock.
I have the new ones, more radical turndown feels awesome. Toebox is roomier, I recommend you drop down by 1/2 size to take advantage of your toes being closer to the front edge in the newer version.
Katana women's shoe is out of stock mostly everywhere. Can you tell me when will it be back in stock and how do I get it delivered in India?
We should have it in stock by June, u should be able be to get it delivered to India but check our delivery pages to make sure… shop.epictv.com/en/shipping-fees
No mention of the new tc pro!?
It’s coming very soon 😉
Looking forward to trying the mantras
soo awesome, oh yeah...bring back the kataki!
would love to try no edge tech with the mantra
I’ll be really happy if the new mantra surpasses its predecessor. The Mantra S was one of my favourite shoes of all time. Excited to get a pair.
amazing design !
The katana Lace (F) looks sweet
Are there better than the Theory's for mainly bouldering :( highly contemplating.
They look amazing! Can"t wait to see the mantra in real >D
Definitely want to snag the mantras. I think they will be a perfect shoe ti transition to.
Mantra for me looks great
day 1 of asking pietro for pink and black skwamas
Mantras looks nice
Mantra similar Scarpa Veloce?
Ask Pietro his thoughts on the sizing of mantras
Pretty sure I'm gonna buy the new Katana. Looks great
both are really cool
I have to say that I don't get why they would make women and men versions of the katana so different. They seem like different models at this point.
As they said in the video, the difference in climber weight affects friction levels seen for each rubber. light person climbing in xs grip = heavy person in xs edge, same friction
@@MrMoppeh I get that shoe structure and rubber will perform differently depending on weight, but that is solved by having different models so people can use whatever shoe fits their needs. The thing is, if someone with small low-volume feet likes to use the old Katana (because they like how they perform on them, regardless of how they would compare to heavier climbers), now they have to look for a different model. I say this as someone that occasionally buys women's climbing shoes because, for some brands, they fit my feet shape better. I'm not trying to be negative or anything, it just seems weird to have two shoes with different designs and materials and give them the same name.
@@Sergio-zc5ul Ye i see your point, if they are going for true gender neutrality and pure focus on function, they should just make different models!
From what I understand sizes will cross-over between the two models, so most people can decide between the softer and the harder one. From La Sportiva's point of view it makes a lot of sense, because you can get two different shoes out from the same last. Same thing happened with the Scarpa Drago LVs vs. yellow Dragos.
@@MrMoppeh if that was rlly the case the lower size men's shoes would have the woman's style and the larger woman's sizes would have the men's style.
And yea, ik they aren't directly related but there's certainly a high corralation. The only real difference between men and woman shoes is woman tend to have narrower feet.
Don’t agree!! I’m female and my foot is massively lower volume compared to all the guys at the gym. To the point I can’t get a good fit. I want a low volume version!
I'm in love with those updated Katana. Can't wait to buy them! UPD: got mine today:)
Just when I had decided which slipper I wanted to get next, a new one is being released 🥴
The three steps of marketing uhm i mean innovation:
1. take an old model (speedster)
2. add a new paintjob
3. rename it (mantra)
End.
うわー。たのしみだ。
I call bull crap on saying there is no difference in men and women's feet. Sure there will be guys with little girlie feet and some women with Sasquatch feet but those are not the norm they are exceptions.
katana laces for me
Katana Laces!
The real problem with no edge is that they wear rubber and wallet a lot faster.
dude what the hell is that design pattern on the Katana lmao, looks terrible imo, the older ones were much cooler
Yeah the pattern is just catastrophic. Designers...
Release the mantra please 😭
I think you are sitting a little bit to close to Pietro, I also wouldn't like that
5.10
Man the Katana lace is my favorite shoes but dang, the new version is hideous looking.
Stupid to call it katana woman, no?
La sportive need to switch to vegan fabric. Using calf skin is so sick
Why? Calf skin is only a by-product. It would be thrown away otherwise...
Every time I hear “I may go for the women’s version” or “I prefer the women’s version” I think to myself 🥲 it’s a good thing I have giant feet…
With a wider/longer rubber patch on the female version of the Katana laces toe box, La Sportiva would have an all around shoe even for bouldering (both gender). Not a specialist, but a sort of 8.5 on 10 for any condition.
Yeah + a Miura heel and it's perfect
If only they made the women versions in larger sizes as well...