Testing the start capacitor

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @vernroach3413
    @vernroach3413 5 лет назад +9

    I watch many videos and star rate them for use in a classroom....This gentleman has the best, most uncomplicated, easy to understand, plainspoken video's out there, that any layman can understand...In my opinion, the best, Period....Once again, my thanks to the Grayfurnaceman for making these videos.

  • @howardblasingame7961
    @howardblasingame7961 6 лет назад +2

    I like your straightforward commonsense tutorials

  • @markh.2899
    @markh.2899 2 года назад

    I got the same OL reading on my AC condenser cap. I tested the cap because the condenser fan stopped spinning - thanks, I just ordered a replacement cap,

  • @dcrickerson9775
    @dcrickerson9775 10 лет назад +4

    Nice demonstration. Really like you demonstration video's thanks for taking the time to do them.

  • @forrestwells2729
    @forrestwells2729 9 лет назад +1

    Good demonstration, strate and to the point.

  • @bradjunes1610
    @bradjunes1610 2 года назад +1

    Excellent-----able test my 1200 MFD after disconnecting the resisters. Much thanks. Question why are some U T'''ers checking and being happy with results with resisters in place?

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  2 года назад

      Beats me, some do not know what they are doing.
      GFM

  • @rdenir
    @rdenir 2 года назад

    Thanks,
    I have always wanted to know how to test a capacitor with a bleed resistor

  • @roysaenz5738
    @roysaenz5738 7 лет назад

    Good and to the point video and with the correct tester, perfect !!! I have seen other videos with the WRONG tester being used. lol Also great job explaining about microfarad.

  • @kevinanderson9243
    @kevinanderson9243 8 лет назад +1

    Thank you for your speedy response!

  • @xicelinkx
    @xicelinkx Год назад

    My start capacitor doesnt read anything after removing the resistor . Does that mean its gone?

  • @j.trevorharris5645
    @j.trevorharris5645 6 лет назад +4

    That is a bleed resistor. Purpose to discharge capacitor after shutting off equipment for safety.

  • @brianb5779
    @brianb5779 5 лет назад +1

    Wondering if you could help. I have a dehumidifier that trips the breaker after you hit the power button. Could a bad capacitor cause this? Thanks in advance.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  5 лет назад

      Probably not. If its a power humidifier, it could have a shorted heating element.
      GFM

    • @brianb5779
      @brianb5779 5 лет назад

      @@grayfurnaceman Thank you Sir

    • @brianb5779
      @brianb5779 5 лет назад

      @@grayfurnaceman Update, i put a hardstart on it and it turned on and ran. I turned power off and removed hardstart and it would turn on and run for 5 to 7 seconds then trip breaker. Any thoughts?

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  5 лет назад

      @@brianb5779 You probably have a failing compressor. It may continue to operate with the hard start installed. Just may not last very long.
      GFM

    • @brianb5779
      @brianb5779 5 лет назад

      @@grayfurnaceman Okay thank you sor

  • @ftnrbhmwk
    @ftnrbhmwk 7 лет назад +2

    You are the man, I've been looking for capacitor meter testing for weeks. You are the only one that show the capacitors with just the 2 COM and HEM with the resister attach. The one exactly that I have. 88-108. The meter read 14.85. That means my capacitor is DONE? Thank You

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  7 лет назад +4

      If you disconnected the resistor when you tested it it is bad.
      GFM

  • @juliuscruz5649
    @juliuscruz5649 7 лет назад +2

    Why you change the multi tester I can't understand

  • @ljones226
    @ljones226 8 месяцев назад

    Since the terminals/poles aren't marked, does it matter which wire connects to which terminal?

  • @leeb.7188
    @leeb.7188 2 года назад

    I have a mid-80s Carrier AC that won’t start. The hard start cap & relay appear to be original, OEM. If I test the cap and it’s bad (don’t know if the relay can be tested), can I replace them with a generic kit, like the 5-2-1 kit that’s sold on Amazon? Thank you!

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  2 года назад

      You can, but I would use the OEM start kit as it is designed for the unit.
      GFM

  • @jacobflematti3325
    @jacobflematti3325 8 лет назад +19

    You forgot to mention when checking them after the power has been shut off you need to discharge them. Or else you could get shocked. They hold a charge and may still have this charge stored in them if the power was just recently shut off.

    • @Steven-kp4wk
      @Steven-kp4wk 7 лет назад +1

      Those things pack a punch for sure if you have ever experienced a jolt from one

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  7 лет назад +1

      Oh yes they do.
      GFM

    • @yoyothomas7288
      @yoyothomas7288 7 лет назад

      compressor wire diagram

    • @robvegart
      @robvegart 6 лет назад

      That's usually with DC caps.... AC circuit cap...not so much

    • @maxprophet2401
      @maxprophet2401 6 лет назад +1

      "Usually" causes grown men to scream like a baby throw their meter and look around to see how embarrassed they should be. 10% of the time (roughly) their may be a charge on an a.c. circuit cap. More if it's removed from the circuit with no bleed resistors. Rare with run caps and fairly common with start caps because the start cap gets yanked out of circuit every time it's used, often leaving it charged to some point.

  • @togodbetheglory9725
    @togodbetheglory9725 8 лет назад +1

    when a irrigation pump don't work the problem might be the capacitor i have a pump that it just make buzz but won't start & it gets real hot.any help thanks

  • @mark.r8900
    @mark.r8900 2 года назад

    The capacitor in my condenser unit reads 35mfd+5mfd. Is this a RUN or START capacitor? Thanks

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  2 года назад

      It is a run capacitor. It is a combination capacitor for the fan motor and compressor.
      GFM

    • @mark.r8900
      @mark.r8900 2 года назад

      @@grayfurnaceman thank you for your reply. So if the 35mfd+5mfd is the run capacitor for the compressor and condenser fan motor. Then how does the compressor and condenser fan motor initially start? Don't they need a boost to start rotating first and then the run capacitor takes over?

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  2 года назад

      @@mark.r8900 The use of a hard start system is dependent on the system design. Most systems will start using the run cap.
      GFM

  • @Rillust
    @Rillust 5 лет назад

    I did that for a washing machine start cap... The meter just reads 11.. so its bad right? By the way OL is overload. means the cap has a charge in it usually.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  5 лет назад

      Sounds like it is bad.
      GFM

    • @Rillust
      @Rillust 5 лет назад

      @@grayfurnaceman Thanks for your reply.

  • @cyrusaraza1720
    @cyrusaraza1720 2 года назад

    Sir may I ask, if I have a motor starting capacitor for "Dough Mixer" of 80µF 10+20% 270V, and I have a reading of 85µF, shall I say that the capacitor is in excellent condition?

  • @d5oper
    @d5oper 4 года назад

    Does the first meter have an separate port to plug in special leads for capacitance that must be zeroed with the dial on the left before testing.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  4 года назад

      No. All you do is set to capacitance.
      GFM

  • @cougar5285
    @cougar5285 4 года назад

    Will all ac unit comes with a start capacitor? Or no, because on mine I can't find it, only have dual run capacitor.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  4 года назад +1

      Most do not. Unless they are controlled by a TXV, they do not need one. If the compressor is a scroll they do not need one even then.
      GFM

  • @dannycalk8051
    @dannycalk8051 10 лет назад

    You can always go up in voltage but does it work that way also with the micro-farads can you go up

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  10 лет назад

      Danny Calk No. Microfarads must be within 10%.
      GFM

  • @fangorn1000
    @fangorn1000 7 лет назад

    I wish you said on what you set your tester on . Thanks,

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  7 лет назад

      Most of the multimeters out there have a capacitor test position. The meter was set to that position.
      GFM

  • @kibalamamark4150
    @kibalamamark4150 6 лет назад

    I have my compressor has two capacitors but their burst all of them but don't know how many microfarad which it was on them what can i do please i want replace them

  • @Straycurrent
    @Straycurrent 10 лет назад

    Good series.

  • @michealvultao4296
    @michealvultao4296 8 лет назад +3

    Have the Frigidaire package unit and pipes keep freezing up and also has a DC fan motor that's running things like low speed

  • @jw200
    @jw200 6 лет назад

    @grayfurnaceman
    How to check large cap like: 68000 uf 63V?
    Any ideas to give me?

  • @bobcampbell4263
    @bobcampbell4263 7 лет назад

    ok here is my question. I have a capacitor but the label is gone. It was the start capacitor for a submersible pump. Now I have to get a replacement. How do I test this capacitor to see what the origin microfarad rating was. It does say 220 volts.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  7 лет назад

      bob campbell If the capacitor has failed, there is no way to test it. If you have specs for the motor, you can try contacting the manufacturer.
      GFM

    • @bobcampbell4263
      @bobcampbell4263 7 лет назад

      thank you... ok, so Im just SOL because the pump is 200 feet down... I will try and look at other pumps and what they tend to use.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  7 лет назад

      bob campbell There is a control box above ground. That’s where you found the cap. Use the model # there.
      GFM

    • @bobcampbell4263
      @bobcampbell4263 7 лет назад

      the label on the cap was completely disintegrated... hence my original question...but thanks for trying... bob

  • @medfilsonfillarca875
    @medfilsonfillarca875 7 лет назад

    nice video tutorial it`s helpful good job thanks for this .

  • @michaeleisenbise4278
    @michaeleisenbise4278 6 лет назад

    Nice Video, well done. thanks

  • @horaciocastillo1435
    @horaciocastillo1435 9 лет назад

    Looks like he was using a Fluke dedicated capacitor tester.
    Does any one knows the model number of this meter?
    I am looking for a good one. Thanks

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  9 лет назад +1

      +Horacio Castillo Its not a dedicated meter. Its a volt ohm meter. The model is Fluke 16. Replaced by the Fluke 116.
      GFM

    • @horaciocastillo1435
      @horaciocastillo1435 9 лет назад

      +grayfurnaceman . Thanks a million for your answer. I just bought a Fluke 116 used on E-bay for $101 with case and leads. I needed to check capacitors on water well pumps control boxes.Have the fluke 83 but is a pain to check caps with this meter.
      Thanks for your interesting video.

    • @robertmunguia250
      @robertmunguia250 8 лет назад

      is that meter still around or obsolete?

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  8 лет назад

      It is obsolete. The replacement is the 116 true RMS meter.
      GFM

    • @robertmunguia250
      @robertmunguia250 8 лет назад

      Ok. I'll look into it. Thanks.

  • @707SonomaComa
    @707SonomaComa 6 лет назад

    I was looking at Baldor 6" Bench Grinders. They have approx. 14 different models!
    One of the descriptions says: Built for heavy duty grinding, powered by 1/3 hp Baldor PSC type motor (except 612E & 662E which are split phase)
    What would be better for that type of bench grinder, a (PSC) Permanent Split Capacitor or a Split Phase motor?
    Is one harder or take longer to start? Do you have to spin the wheels to get it going?

  • @WELDINFORALIVIN
    @WELDINFORALIVIN 8 лет назад

    Hi,
    I tested my capacitor like you showed in the video. I have the same response as you did in your first demonstration of this video. I set my multimeter to "2k ohms". Upon touching post posts my multi reads .278 than open. Switch the two leads around and it does the same. Would this mean the capacitor is bad?
    Frank

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  8 лет назад

      Sounds like it is good because as it charged the resistance increased.
      GFM

  • @sivucit
    @sivucit 7 лет назад

    hi, thanks for the video, very helpful. quick quesiton. capacitor need + and - to charge, in this case, common from capacitor and
    (start wire from compressor and FAN) both are in the same leg.. the common of compressor and fan is going to other leg of 240.. but for capacitor to charge we need both leg right. so how is capacitor charging.. to make it simple if i have capacitor which is NOT dual KEEP it single.. i wire start wire of herm in capacitor to start wire of compressor, common in the capacitor i will connect to T1, i will connect RUN of compressotr to T1 and common to T2. being said that capacitor doesnt have both the leg to charge.. can u please explain.. no one have done this befofre..

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  7 лет назад

      Remember, this is AC. It reverses 120 times a second. Also, the capacitor is not a load, its a semiconductor.
      The capacitor is charged thru the windings of the compressor. Each time it charges, and the polarity reverses, it discharges into the circuit. Hope this helps.
      GFM

  • @Steven-kp4wk
    @Steven-kp4wk 7 лет назад +2

    I always use an analog meter rather than a digital one to check capacitors.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  7 лет назад

      I used one for many years. The only problem is that they will not give the strength. Most meters have a capacitor function built in now.
      GFM

    • @Steven-kp4wk
      @Steven-kp4wk 7 лет назад

      Very true....I only use it on microwaves.

  • @RoyalCryptoLifePath7
    @RoyalCryptoLifePath7 8 лет назад

    I have a Kenmore washing machine it's humming I suspect is the capacitor do I have to discharge it and how. I have a regular voltage meter

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  7 лет назад +1

      Once the power is off, the cap does need to be discharged. Proper procedure requires placing a 20,000 ohm resistor across the terminals. Practically, what everyone does is use a screwdriver to short the terminals.
      GFM

  • @erikmahoney6432
    @erikmahoney6432 8 лет назад +1

    that resistor is there to save lives.. hello?

    • @dpeagles
      @dpeagles 6 лет назад

      Hahah. Save lives? Techs know how to deal with capacitors without getting killed

    • @jayryan7473
      @jayryan7473 4 года назад

      @@dpeagles Yeah well the guy in the video is far from a tech. I'm assuming he electrocuted himself by now.

    • @lojoman16
      @lojoman16 12 дней назад

      @@dpeagles How Dumb can you be ? I suppose he's just teaching techs then ?

    • @dpeagles
      @dpeagles 12 дней назад

      @ How dumb are you? A person that doesn't know what they are doing should not be messing with capacitors.

  • @johncasor9698
    @johncasor9698 7 лет назад

    should i always discharge cap before testing ???

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  7 лет назад

      Start caps need to be discharged if there is no resistor between the terminals. Run caps discharge themselves when the circuit is opened.
      GFM

    • @jayryan7473
      @jayryan7473 4 года назад

      @@grayfurnaceman That's the stupidest damn comment ever. Just like the rest of your video. You should have never put this video up. If you set a run capacitor on a workbench and briefly give it 120 volts (which is how they are charged) there's no way it's going to discharge on its own. Maybe after it sits there for a couple weeks. You always need to discharge a capacitor so you don't shock yourself.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  4 года назад +1

      Jay Ryan You are correct. If I place a cap on a bench, and charge it it will hold that charge. A run cap is not used on a bench. It is used in parallel with the start winding of a motor. If you look at the wiring diagram of a motor, you will see that when the power is removed, it discharges thru the winding. Have you ever noticed that there is never a spark when you short the cap? Think before you comment. GFM

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  4 года назад +3

      @@jayryan7473 I guess at this point I should respond in kind. Look at the diagram of the motor dummy.
      GFM

  • @ernieschatz3783
    @ernieschatz3783 8 лет назад

    Ever used an ESR meter for this?

  • @VINODKUMAR-bd5im
    @VINODKUMAR-bd5im 8 лет назад

    hi ..anyone can tel.me ..how to check perfect size of capaciter for diffrent sizes motor

  • @lambertax
    @lambertax 6 лет назад

    Maybe you can use capacitor tester and nor an ohm meter

  • @mrgreenswelding2853
    @mrgreenswelding2853 7 лет назад

    does the resistor need to be there? or can it run without it?

    • @pgingras01
      @pgingras01 3 года назад

      The bleed resistors on start caps where potential relay is used is absolutely required. The resister will discharge the cap otherwise in the off cycle the only path for a capacitor to discharge with a potential relay would be across the relay contacts, damaging or weld the contacts.

  • @mts7274
    @mts7274 2 года назад

    You skipped how/what to set the multimeter at. And the markings on multimeters I see at Harbor Freight look nothing like the one you have.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  2 года назад

      The meter shown is a Fluke 16 Similar to the Fluke 116. These meters are automatic range. Many of the Harbor Freight meters are manual range.
      If I was testing a capacitor with a manual ranging meter, I would note the strength of the capacitor printed on the side, then set the range accordingly.
      GFM

  • @senthilshunmugam685
    @senthilshunmugam685 7 лет назад

    single phase preventer how to work inlet wire outlet wire how to connecting
    and in the system how to control the
    single phase preventer please explain to me thanks!

    • @Digitalsharecropper
      @Digitalsharecropper 4 года назад

      Use Stronium Sulfide Flugleharn Plutonium Invertor set to "Calibrate". Then download the single phase preventer app and set bluetooth to "on" and look for a signal from the Reactor Core Modulator inverter valve. The IP address MUST be 10.213.200.200 or it cannot connect to your app

  • @mogruth
    @mogruth 6 лет назад +2

    This a tutorial for people who know how to test a capacitor you don't tell what settings on the meter.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  6 лет назад +1

      There are no settings for the meter. Except for setting it in capacitor mode. The only exception is if you are testing very small caps. This video is about testing motor start capacitors. They range from 85 to 500 MFD.
      GFM

    • @classicpontiac37
      @classicpontiac37 5 лет назад +1

      Im a former hvac tech and i have a field piece model- sc54 digital multimeter. It has a setting on it that you set to mfd that checks capacitance. On the screen if reads in UF which is the symbol for microfarads. Hope this was some help. Ps... i bought the meter from Sid Harveys.

  • @craignehring
    @craignehring 10 лет назад

    Good to know about testing with that resistor removed.
    Is it common nt to have a start cap on a Carrier 2-3 ton central air unit? or is the "combo cap" both a run cap fro the condenser fan and a run cap for the compressor?

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      @jayanthinatarajan2619 7 лет назад

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  • @Cavenaggi29
    @Cavenaggi29 5 лет назад

    my tester doesn't have farads =(

  • @benpress8884
    @benpress8884 6 лет назад

    OL means out of limit

  • @tom5051666
    @tom5051666 6 лет назад

    hahah i have that same fluke meter. had it for nearly 20 years and it's still going.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  6 лет назад

      My first Fluke 16 I bought in 1990. I replaced it because it got crushed between an outboard motor and a boat hull 25 years later.
      GFM

  • @kennysmith8831
    @kennysmith8831 2 года назад

    Get the right tester A capacitor tester

  • @MsFishingdog
    @MsFishingdog 10 лет назад +2

    good video. thanks.

  • @krishnachauhan9565
    @krishnachauhan9565 7 лет назад +1

    AC repairing video please hindi me Sr

  • @alanedelburg5760
    @alanedelburg5760 2 года назад

    He forgets to tell you what setting you need to have the meter on.

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  2 года назад

      Most meters are automatic in reading the strength, and only need to be set in the capacitor setting.
      GFM

  • @user-sh9du2nv5y
    @user-sh9du2nv5y 7 лет назад +1

    Its Hank Hill from (King of the Hill)

  • @joeharvey4080
    @joeharvey4080 2 года назад

    I wish people when they test stuff would show how to set there meters up so people that don't know much about meters would know what to do..Good video..but not much good without that knowledge if one doesn't know this..

  • @comarcondensatori7103
    @comarcondensatori7103 4 года назад

    Should you need top-quality electrolytic or film capacitors for motor application, make sure to check www.comarcond.com/en

  • @zebeast98
    @zebeast98 8 лет назад

    Anyone notice that the meter was in micro farads and the capactior is in milli farads? That's off by 1000 times, so I wouldn't say it's good

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  8 лет назад +1

      The capacitor is rated in microfarads. In this case the M is for microfarads.
      GFM

    • @dianalewis7038
      @dianalewis7038 8 лет назад

      Zachary Self

  • @lojoman16
    @lojoman16 12 дней назад

    "SAFTEY FIRST" ? Come on ! Never a mention or text about insuring these "Deadly High Voltage Storing Caps" are DISCHARGED FIRST !!!! You failed right out of the gate !

  • @joetorres9372
    @joetorres9372 6 лет назад +2

    How in the hell did you get out of 1st grade????

    • @grayfurnaceman
      @grayfurnaceman  6 лет назад +2

      I was just in front of a person that makes senseless comments on youtube.
      GFM

    • @jayryan7473
      @jayryan7473 4 года назад +1

      Joe Agreed! This video is joke.

  • @jayryan7473
    @jayryan7473 4 года назад +5

    This is the biggest failure in all the RUclips videos regarding capacitor testing. I don't feel like wasting anymore of my time on this but just to protect the safety of others falling victim to this video I will point this out: Before handling a capacitor you darn well better short the terminals with a screwdriver. And keep your unprotected fingers away from the terminals for crying out loud. I think it's safe to assume this guy is never going to read this comment because he already electrocuted himself & is now brain-dead being fed with a tube. Or he tried sharpening a lawn mower blade while it was running. Either one of those is a possible scenario.