didjargo it’s the only time “fuck” is used in the show. Tod is such a stupid character that contributed almost nothing into the show except run time, but finally, when he says this, and inserts himself into the end of the episode blindsides you and leaves you as emotionally rocked as bojack
@@danielresnicoff9955 Fuck has been used more Times in the show though. Like how Charlotte said to bojack that if I ever comes ner her family egen she will "fucking" kill
Voice acting got so good Aaron had to release some Breaking Bad anger as well lol. I mean you could imagine Jesse and Walt being here in a similar scene
This was my first favorite Todd scene. When he goes “you had SEX with EMILY?!” I kinda flipped out a little because I’d never heard him so shocked/mad, especially at Bojack.
You know what else is sad in this scene? Todd clearly still had faith in their friendship. He had enough of it that it didn't even cross his mind that Bojack could have slept with Emily behind his back. He knew he did something wrong, but his first instinct was to think it was something that was easier to forgive and that the friendship could survive through. Showing that up until that point, Todd did have some respect and trust for Bojack inspite his flaws.
@@kevinmccabe3984 but they went through a whole season of not speaking to each other. Even when they did start to become freindly towards each other again Todd still kept Bojack somewhat at a distance. Such as refusing to live with him again and spending more of his time that he use to spend with Bojack with either Mr. Peanutbutter, Yolanda or Princess Caroline.
In the end, bojack pushed away everyone close to him because of who he was. They were still cordial but everyone (Diane, Todd, Princess Carolyn, and especially hollyhock and anyone else that he was close to) except for mr. Peanutbutter was pretty much done with him and his shit.
@@kevinmccabe3984 I don't think it survived. They are friendly to each other (Todd cannot be malicius with anyone, really) but they are not friends like before.
it's incredible how this show can pass from bongo butts and counting to one million stuff to one of the deepest (maybe THE deepest) time of tv history in less than 3 minutes
Bojack had a lot of friends but he just keeps ruining his relationship with them because of his selfish indulgence. You would think that after what happened with Herb he would sit down and reflect on his decisions that led to how his friendship ended with the guy who was pretty much the reason he even got rich and famous. But no, he continues on with his destructive behaviors as if they are normal. Takes a really shitty kind a person to be that way.
Bojack will always look for a fast escape, a reason not to blame himself, and a reason not to change. He’s much like status quo of a show like horsin around. Flaws can be pointed out, characters can grow, but the conflict still needs to exist or it’d be boring. But in his case, there’s no growth. He becomes aware of his short comings, doesn’t grow, then goes right back to the start and it’s business as usual. Bojack wants his life to be better but doesn’t want to put the effort into making himself better. He’s a man who has been given every excuse in the world and exploits the hell out of that. He may complain and moan about himself and his circumstances, but he doesn’t want to change because that would mean leaving them behind and accepting personal responsibility for what came next. He’s a self destructive wreck who will sabotage those around him because he’s afraid everyone will see what he’s like and leave, so he feels his only answer is to make them just as bad as him. Misery loves company, and bojack is just walking misery. He’s cynical, jaded, and too pessimistic to imagine anything getting better, so he’ll just never bother to make the right choices for any extended period of time
TerminalCarrion I’d be lying if I said I didn’t read that in George Carlin’s voice. Somehow, it seems like something he would’ve said if he were an analyst (of sorts).
Sad thing is, we all know a few people like that in real life... Hell, some of us are those people too. Doesn't make it ok, just more relatable. Like a dark reflection you don't want to look at.
Many can say that Todd did not have to be angry with Bojack, since he did not want anything sexual with Emily, but they had to understand something important ... Wanting to protect your friend from a person who is shit with women like Bojack is not an exaggeration . Todd has known Emily since she was 13 years old, and he appreciates her a lot because he thinks she is wonderful, and Todd also knows very well how Bojack is with women, he has seen how one night he meets a Girl, sleeps with her. and then treats it like garbage by throwing it in the trash. Clearly, he didn't want someone to do that to Emily, and that goes more for Bojack, who was supposedly his friend, and couldn't respect her friendship with him and hold back for once.
@@kap1618 completely agree, infantilizing women is a real issue. I DO understand why Todd is angry they didnt tell him though. Not because they had to, but because both of them knew it would affect him and opted not to tell him for this reason.
@@americantoastman7296 I get and agree with that the episode was trying to say for Bojack's character but the context of the situation kind of muddles it a bit.
Right, but I feel like it's still a violation of friendship and trust, I dunno if they were broken up but it's kinda like sleeping with your friends partner after a break up, it's still just morally wrong
I really respect that after this moment Todd never really let Bojack Back into his life (Yes I know the FUCK moment is always meant to be when Bojack has destroyed a relationship beyond repair) but Todd is such a good-hearted generous person I can see how he see forgiving him yet again only to be hurt by him AGAIN and although he was cordial to him for the rest of the show he kept himself separated and honestly, his life just kept getting better after he cut off the horseman
@@thenewadventuresofhenry6998 True... but after this moment he had very firm distinct--and as the show goes on INCREASING--Boundries when it came to Bojack it wasn't so much letting him back in his life as mostly refraining from kicking him while he was down
He never cut him off. They still hung out. He still attended BoJack’s Halloween party and got lunch with him after getting out of rehab, and literally flew across the country to attend BoJack’s student play. Yes the relationship changed but that’s more than just “cordial” in my opinion
@@kevinmccabe3984 it was gradually more and more closed doors from seasons 4-6 but it was all on Todd's terms he for though he wasn't too harsh with Bojack he did what was be for himself
@@kevinmccabe3984yea i saw the final episode and he still treats bojack nicely, id say even more so after trying to actually change and going to prison
"You cant keep doing this" And "You need to be better" its what gets me the most He just lost all his faith in Bojack and still tried to give him some advice.
This sho got a very interesting trivia: the word "fuck"is used only once a season. Every opportunity relates to a character is ruined. Todd in that scene, Herb in Season 1, Charlotte in Season 2 and Gina in Season 5.
I was pretty surprised in this scene when Todd got mad with Bojack. I always think of Todd as dumb & naive, yet kind, tolerant, patient, well intentioned. Never thought he would ‘slap’ Bojack with such a harsh manner.
Todd's way smarter than he acts. Hell, he was able to grow a multimillion dollar company and then manage a multibillion dollar one. In the end he managed to become independent, find love and accomplish goals people attribute to success.
@@Dankitude actually Seth hasn’t been involved with the show (apart from voices) since 2010, which is coincidentally when the show started to tank. I believe Seth is what made the show enjoyable but without him it suffered a lot
Used to...But really I just feel like todd and I keep my mouth shut when I seen family and friends do messed up things and think that's not something you might need get help or therapy for...and when I do get upset and say it...I actually feel bad just being that honest....
"You are all the things that are wrong with you; it's not the alcohol, or the drugs, or any of the shitty things that happened to you in your career, or when you were a kid. It's you." This, right here. The burden of responsibility for my problems is on ME. It took me a long time to understand this. I'm *still* learning it. Accepting that it's my fault if I don't change for the better...hurts. But it's the only way forward. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Every time my best friend let me down and tried to apologize I would say "I dont need you to be sorry, I need you to be better" I relate to Todd a lot in this scene
This scene was probably one of the deepest that hurt emotionally and just mentally that many people can relate too this was probably the first time I realized Todd actually wasn't just a fun lovable friend he brought out the truth that he never even wanted to pull
That's crazy how quickly Bojack switched once Todd brought up Emily. He was so confident in knowing he had been generous to Todd, even listing things that real friends wouldn't even think about needing compensation for like hearing Todd's stories. But the second he realizes Todd might know how he fucked him over in secret, he's weirdly "remorseful", like he's not consciously manipulating the situation here. He's done it so often, he doesn't need to think about it anymore before switching to garner sympathy
I love this scene. I had people mistreat me and others and say I'm ( mentally ill, autistic, disabled, had a bad child hood, etc )and I can get away with it. These excuses can only go so far. I've had a crazy medical history, but hardly tell people about because it does not define me or my actions.
I just started watching Bojack Horseman and Todd is the character that I relate to most. I'm not much of a drama queen like Bojack, and I spend most of my time vegging out, I'm not asexual but I am aromantic, and now I can see myself stuck jobless and living on some celebrity's couch
Aidan Barnes Then maybe you can explain to me about his character, why is he mad at bojack for having sex with emily? I mean, i know he loves her in a weird way, he doesn’t care that she has sex with a bunch of firemen in the next season and tell him about it, its weird why he’s mad at all.
Ⓐ ANARCHY Ⓐ he says that he didn’t get mad that Bojack did it, but rather he got mad because to him it was the last straw. Which I relate to heavily, because as somebody who often represses or bottles up emotions until they boil over, it’s not always one major event that triggers you, sometimes it can be something super minor and constant it just gets on your nerves to the point where it makes you explodes. Todd couldn’t just ignore Bojack doing stupid stuff anymore and now he knows that Bojack doesn’t even have any sort of standard if he doesn’t mind sleeping with somebody who Todd is attracted to. Think about it this way: it only takes one shake for a soda can to explode, doesn’t matter how.
@@ANARCHY.050 I think it's because bojack is supposed to be Todd's friend and he has let Todd down so many times before, and Bojack knew something was going on between Emily and Todd so he should have known better than to have sex with her then. Think of it without the lense of him being asexual, if you were in his shoes and your best friend had sex with the woman you were working things out with, how would you feel? It's different when it's your best friend vs some stranger too
Man Todd is everything you want to have as a best friend someone who can be with you at your lowest point. Comfort you when you truly need it. And isn’t afraid call out on someone bullshit when needed. Todd more than a laughing character I mean he is hilarious 😆. But he more than that, and that’s why we love him.
If I'm not mistaken, this is also the last time the show used the flashback gag, right before Todd ripped into Bojack and ended their friendship, signalling that things were never truly going to return to how they were in the first few episodes of Season 1
Every time i think that i am going to hurt someone with my selfish acts or words, i watch this video and i know that i have to stop and i have to be better... BJ is a great show full of reality
I think I love this confrontation the most because not only does it work from the character perspective, but also from a meta perspective. Across various Bojack clips on RUclips and in reddit posts about the show, a lot of people who feel weird about enjoying a character who isn't supposed to be redeemable or good try to make a series of justifications for his actions, from his childhood to the stumbling points of his adulthood. They miss the point entirely that, yes, while those are *explanations* for how Bojack became the person that he is, they are not *justifications* for how he is the way he is. Plenty of people in real life have grown up in shitty households, have dealt with drug problems or alcoholism or career woes and so on, and they still manage to correct themselves or find help. Bojack's problem *is* him. It is his sheer inability to admit that he is his own worst enemy, and that he frankly does enjoy doing shitty things to people because he thinks he's untouchable and can get away with it. He is someone who lives by his momentary whims and desires, but all that does is remind him that he's an empty ass horseman and so he looks for the next high. He's a fantastically written character for sure, I don't think the show would be so popular otherwise, but I'd argue a big reason for that *is* because he rarely decides to learn from his mistakes, compared to so many "kinda shitty protagonists" who eventually find a sort of redemption or improvement. Bojack burns all bridges with most of his friends and repeatedly slaps the hand of the universe trying to point him in the right direction. TLDR: Bojack is very well written character, but if he was real I would not want anything to do with him.
I like this part, don't get me wrong, but now that i think about it, it's basically the same speech of Kesse Pinkman about responsabilities. The concept is the same, the meaning is the same, the words are similar, the actor is the same (lol)...
Bojack's got a lot of nerve trying to belittle Todd like he's a parent while constantly sabotaging him and then taking advantage of him to get what he wants. It's very clear why after this Todd moves out and their friendship never goes back to where it used to be.
Todd isn't always lucid, ok, he's never lucid, but when he is, he knocks it out of the park! In fact, I know a few people who need to get this Todd talk - STAT!
I’ve only watched up until the end of Season 3 & out of all the things Todd has ever said, this was The only time he ever said anything intelligent and down to earth. And it hurts. It hurts.
I know this was 3 years ago so I'm not sure if you ever finished the series or rewatched it, but I personally disagree with this statement as someone who's just finished season 3. Todd isn't the brightest in a lot of areas, but he is very emotionally mature and that side of him shows the most when Bojack hurts him. Back in (I believe) season 1, Bojack had intentionally sabotaged Todd's rock opera career or whatever because he didn't want him to move out, knowing how much it had meant to him. When Todd found out, he just distanced himself from Bojack for a while. Bkjack noticed, got paranoid, and started assuming that Todd was trying to get revenge which we find out towards the end of the episode that the idea of getting revenge hadn't even crossed his mind. Bojack sighs in relief and immediately assumes that it means that everything is okay, but Todd then vocally made it very clear that it was *not* okay and addressed how what Bojack did genuinely hurt him. Then later into the season, in the episode where they both get really high with Sarah Lynn, Bojack starts getting paranoid again when him and Todd are about to attack each other with brooms that they thought were guns because he was still angry and trying to get revenge or something, but Todd quickly hushes him and says this line: "quiet quiet quiet quiet. As you know, I was hurt. But, then I realized, that's just how you are. Yknow, maybe I should just stop expecting you to be a good person. So that way, I won't get hurt.. when you're not." I do agree that this scene (so far at least) has been the *most* intelligent and down to earth thing he's said, but not the only one Imo. But honestly yeah they are mostly just when he's confronting Bojack about the messed up shit he does lmao (Sorry I just realized how long this was when I sent it.. oops)
I was expecting the counting to a million thing to be Todd as like, a 9 year old, but honestly seeing it cut to adult Todd counting was kinda hilarious
While every person who Bojack hurt has a right to blow-up at him; Todds both hurt but served as such a relief to me. He had every right to tell him off here after what he did to Emily and general years of built up disrespect from Bojack.
I know everyone said it already, but it's crazy how they slipped two of the silliest moments in the season in this scene, then completely flip the tone on its head with Todd finally losing his shit at Bojack.
This reminds me a lot of the scene in season 4 of Veep when Gary finally yells at Selina, telling her about all the times he was loyal to her. Even though their relationship still continues unlike Todd and Bojack's, both are scenes which are shocking, because they show characters who are constantly sweet, loyal, and forgiving, finally putting their foot down to people who use them and manipulate them.
I think this is probably the most effect cut to back in the 90’s. The back in the 90’s during the Beatrice episode was a very very close second but idk something about this one after Todd who up to this point has been mostly the goofy best friend saying the F-bomb of the season and in such a disappointed it just fucking broke me. Then back in 90s it’s just perfect
2:06 “i thought maybe you gave her one of your weird monologues about how SAD you are…” usually, because of bojack’s bitter nature and his jealousy towards happy-go-lucky people like mr peanutbutter and todd, he looks down on them- constantly mocking their fun and happy demeanors while he remains miserable. it’s because he’s jealous and unable to understand how and WHY they live happy lives that he looks down on them as people. here, it’s the opposite, which was extremely satisfying to watch. for once- *todd* is shitting on bojack’s terrible attitude about everything. and by his extremely harsh tone, and the way he’s angrily rolling his eyes, you can see it’s finally his turn to mock bojack instead. it’s his turn to talk down to bojack rather than the other way around. finally for once we get to understand more of todd’s perspective and see the way he thinks bojack’s depressing nature is extremely odd and off putting. bojack deserved every bit of that mockery
A few people are comparing Aaron Paul's performance here to his outbursts as Jesse in Breaking Bad. I disagree. I think one of the reasons Aaron's performance is so masterful in both is the fact I *can't* picture this as a conversation between Walt and Jesse. This isn't Aaron being angry, this is *Todd* being angry (and remorseful). Aaron has crafted Todd into his own distinct character and brought him out here and that care and planning shows.
About Emily, it is not just Bojack's fault, it is also of Emily for being frustrated with Todd, and also Todd's for not telling Emily on time his real feelings (either he felt not ready for a romantic relationship or that he is asexual). Nevertheless, out of this, it is good Todd finally put Bojack in his place and decided to leave him. Not for Emily, but for him. Bojack has acted shitty with him since the beginning, and he was going to use him again in order to not feel alone again.
Just hearing Tod of all characters saying "Fuck man, what else is there to say" in such a tired somber tone was a massive emotional gut punch.
didjargo it’s the only time “fuck” is used in the show. Tod is such a stupid character that contributed almost nothing into the show except run time, but finally, when he says this, and inserts himself into the end of the episode blindsides you and leaves you as emotionally rocked as bojack
@@danielresnicoff9955 Fuck has been used more Times in the show though.
Like how Charlotte said to bojack that if I ever comes ner her family egen she will "fucking" kill
Ayylmao Abo Yea and Herb said it in season 1 when BoJack tried to ask for forgiveness
@@danielresnicoff9955 Once per season, every time Bojack irretrievably destroys a relationship
Its the most powerful though
Aaron saying "You can't keep doing this!" gives me the same energy as "He can't keep getting away with this!"
TRUE
aaron paul's characters get shat on a lot by the protagonists lol
@@isaacpianos5208 this is funnier considering the age gap between Bo and Todd is nearly the same as Jesse and Walt lol
@@devincorbett3040 true lol
@@devincorbett3040 that’s perfect
Voice acting got so good Aaron had to release some Breaking Bad anger as well lol. I mean you could imagine Jesse and Walt being here in a similar scene
This was my first favorite Todd scene. When he goes “you had SEX with EMILY?!” I kinda flipped out a little because I’d never heard him so shocked/mad, especially at Bojack.
Have someone who never watched Bojack listen to the end part
That's exactly what I thought as I was watching this scene, I imagined Bojack as Walt haha.
Jesse would be saying ‘bitch’ all the time haha.
@@fairfight9857 “you had sex with Emily bitch!?” “You can’t keep doing this bitch!”
First Walter White, now Bojack, can someone please be nice with this guy?
There is always Delores. ...Maybe
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!
@@aprilhisey2244
Hank: He won't. You really want to take him down....
Lets do it together
Mr. Horseman....he's the devil.
When I hear the Ana's voicemail all I hear at the end is Gus saying "explain yourself"
You know what else is sad in this scene?
Todd clearly still had faith in their friendship. He had enough of it that it didn't even cross his mind that Bojack could have slept with Emily behind his back.
He knew he did something wrong, but his first instinct was to think it was something that was easier to forgive and that the friendship could survive through.
Showing that up until that point, Todd did have some respect and trust for Bojack inspite his flaws.
Their friendship did survive though
@@kevinmccabe3984 but they went through a whole season of not speaking to each other. Even when they did start to become freindly towards each other again Todd still kept Bojack somewhat at a distance. Such as refusing to live with him again and spending more of his time that he use to spend with Bojack with either Mr. Peanutbutter, Yolanda or Princess Caroline.
In the end, bojack pushed away everyone close to him because of who he was. They were still cordial but everyone (Diane, Todd, Princess Carolyn, and especially hollyhock and anyone else that he was close to) except for mr. Peanutbutter was pretty much done with him and his shit.
@@kevinmccabe3984 I don't think it survived. They are friendly to each other (Todd cannot be malicius with anyone, really) but they are not friends like before.
Yeah but at the end of the series Todd started having more faith in Bojack and believing he can keep breaking his sober record
It's sad that todd went from the comic relief to a real adult in this scene
I think it’s perfect
Just like jesse
@@jensabpunzalan8036 jesse?
@@bluebay1031 pinkman, obviously
it's incredible how this show can pass from bongo butts and counting to one million stuff to one of the deepest (maybe THE deepest) time of tv history in less than 3 minutes
The magic of Bojack
Thats what you consider the deepest? Being scolded for being a shitty person?
@@chistinelane fuck man, what more is there to say?
11,5 days
i think those scenes were placed there to emphasize todd's childish antics so that him rightfully telling bojack off would punch harder
Bojack had a lot of friends but he just keeps ruining his relationship with them because of his selfish indulgence. You would think that after what happened with Herb he would sit down and reflect on his decisions that led to how his friendship ended with the guy who was pretty much the reason he even got rich and famous. But no, he continues on with his destructive behaviors as if they are normal. Takes a really shitty kind a person to be that way.
Bojack will always look for a fast escape, a reason not to blame himself, and a reason not to change. He’s much like status quo of a show like horsin around. Flaws can be pointed out, characters can grow, but the conflict still needs to exist or it’d be boring. But in his case, there’s no growth. He becomes aware of his short comings, doesn’t grow, then goes right back to the start and it’s business as usual. Bojack wants his life to be better but doesn’t want to put the effort into making himself better. He’s a man who has been given every excuse in the world and exploits the hell out of that. He may complain and moan about himself and his circumstances, but he doesn’t want to change because that would mean leaving them behind and accepting personal responsibility for what came next. He’s a self destructive wreck who will sabotage those around him because he’s afraid everyone will see what he’s like and leave, so he feels his only answer is to make them just as bad as him. Misery loves company, and bojack is just walking misery. He’s cynical, jaded, and too pessimistic to imagine anything getting better, so he’ll just never bother to make the right choices for any extended period of time
TerminalCarrion I’d be lying if I said I didn’t read that in George Carlin’s voice. Somehow, it seems like something he would’ve said if he were an analyst (of sorts).
TerminalCarrion good lord Mann that was pretty deep
It takes a really broken person to be that way.
Sad thing is, we all know a few people like that in real life... Hell, some of us are those people too. Doesn't make it ok, just more relatable. Like a dark reflection you don't want to look at.
“Bathtub come make Todd shiny and clean” that so cute ❤️❤️
I had to see it again after the sad part at end, to uplift my mood.
Todd-o, me am todd-o. Bath time, come make Todd shiny and clean.
You deserve a sub Lila rentz
Tbh who doesn't do that when they are a kid
one of my favorite todd moments fr 😭
Many can say that Todd did not have to be angry with Bojack, since he did not want anything sexual with Emily, but they had to understand something important ... Wanting to protect your friend from a person who is shit with women like Bojack is not an exaggeration .
Todd has known Emily since she was 13 years old, and he appreciates her a lot because he thinks she is wonderful, and Todd also knows very well how Bojack is with women, he has seen how one night he meets a Girl, sleeps with her. and then treats it like garbage by throwing it in the trash. Clearly, he didn't want someone to do that to Emily, and that goes more for Bojack, who was supposedly his friend, and couldn't respect her friendship with him and hold back for once.
Fair but Emily a grown woman who can fight her own battles.
Didn't Emily have with basically a stranger at a bar all I'm saying is it takes two to tango in situations like that
@@kap1618 completely agree, infantilizing women is a real issue. I DO understand why Todd is angry they didnt tell him though. Not because they had to, but because both of them knew it would affect him and opted not to tell him for this reason.
@@americantoastman7296 I get and agree with that the episode was trying to say for Bojack's character but the context of the situation kind of muddles it a bit.
Right, but I feel like it's still a violation of friendship and trust, I dunno if they were broken up but it's kinda like sleeping with your friends partner after a break up, it's still just morally wrong
I really respect that after this moment Todd never really let Bojack Back into his life (Yes I know the FUCK moment is always meant to be when Bojack has destroyed a relationship beyond repair)
but Todd is such a good-hearted generous person I can see how he see forgiving him yet again only to be hurt by him AGAIN and although he was cordial to him for the rest of the show he kept himself separated and honestly, his life just kept getting better after he cut off the horseman
He's the only one who said F and still let Bojack be somewhat in his life. However, they never went back to where they were.
@@thenewadventuresofhenry6998 True... but after this moment he had very firm distinct--and as the show goes on INCREASING--Boundries when it came to Bojack it wasn't so much letting him back in his life as mostly refraining from kicking him while he was down
He never cut him off. They still hung out. He still attended BoJack’s Halloween party and got lunch with him after getting out of rehab, and literally flew across the country to attend BoJack’s student play. Yes the relationship changed but that’s more than just “cordial” in my opinion
@@kevinmccabe3984 it was gradually more and more closed doors from seasons 4-6 but it was all on Todd's terms he for though he wasn't too harsh with Bojack he did what was be for himself
@@kevinmccabe3984yea i saw the final episode and he still treats bojack nicely, id say even more so after trying to actually change and going to prison
"You cant keep doing this"
And "You need to be better" its what gets me the most
He just lost all his faith in Bojack and still tried to give him some advice.
This scene goes from funny to absolutely upsetting and depressing
Todd was never going to have that level of intimacy with Emily and Bojack capitalized off Todd’s insecurities and that cuts really deep.
… holy shit…
He’s totally right about the sad monologue part
This sho got a very interesting trivia: the word "fuck"is used only once a season. Every opportunity relates to a character is ruined. Todd in that scene, Herb in Season 1, Charlotte in Season 2 and Gina in Season 5.
Bojack in Season 4.
What about season 6? Gina’s costar says it instead
@@samuelbrandon4832 yeah I was pretty disappointed with that, it would’ve been so much better if Hollyhock had said it
@@adamgriffith-smith9106 its cause she couldn't have done that to him, to his face. so she cut contact.
and it all came crashing down from there.
I was pretty surprised in this scene when Todd got mad with Bojack. I always think of Todd as dumb & naive, yet kind, tolerant, patient, well intentioned. Never thought he would ‘slap’ Bojack with such a harsh manner.
Todd's way smarter than he acts. Hell, he was able to grow a multimillion dollar company and then manage a multibillion dollar one. In the end he managed to become independent, find love and accomplish goals people attribute to success.
bojack had it coming
When his voice gets really deep at the end, "fuck man what else is there to say" it really got to me
The acting was soooo good.
Beyond acting
Ikr
1:17 Thank God this show isn't family guy, they would have done it all the way
Modern Family Guy writers: Yeah lets add in a long ass and unfunny joke since we’re not creative anymore and need to fill the run time
Yes! Short, sweet, and does not take away from the episode's main plot. I swear Family Guy's cutaway gags make up half of an episode.
@@Dankitude actually Seth hasn’t been involved with the show (apart from voices) since 2010, which is coincidentally when the show started to tank. I believe Seth is what made the show enjoyable but without him it suffered a lot
It probably would've ended with some kind of desperate shock value scene
EXACTLY AHHAHAHAHAH
The worst feeling ever is when you listen to Todd’s speech and realize just how much it applies to you and how you’ve treated your friends and family.
This right here !!!
this with my dad
Used to...But really I just feel like todd and I keep my mouth shut when I seen family and friends do messed up things and think that's not something you might need get help or therapy for...and when I do get upset and say it...I actually feel bad just being that honest....
you mean like he's talking to the viewer?
"You are all the things that are wrong with you; it's not the alcohol, or the drugs, or any of the shitty things that happened to you in your career, or when you were a kid. It's you."
This, right here. The burden of responsibility for my problems is on ME. It took me a long time to understand this. I'm *still* learning it. Accepting that it's my fault if I don't change for the better...hurts. But it's the only way forward. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same bruh
"Fuck man, what else is there to say?"
Exactly the past doesn't make who you are today, you do that!
Will Arnett and Aaron Paul both deserve Emmys for this one scene.
Exactly, i think most of us fall under that lie , that unconscious feeling that regret makes things better, it does not.
THIS ! I think that's Todd's main point basically
Every time my best friend let me down and tried to apologize I would say "I dont need you to be sorry, I need you to be better"
I relate to Todd a lot in this scene
Damn, Aaron Paul is really channeling some Jesse Pinkman like anger into this scene.
Out of every ‘fuck’ within each season, this one hits the most 😔
This scene was probably one of the deepest that hurt emotionally and just mentally that many people can relate too this was probably the first time I realized Todd actually wasn't just a fun lovable friend he brought out the truth that he never even wanted to pull
2:17 HE CAN'T KEEP GETTIN AWAY WITH THIS!
Poor Jesse Pinkman
wrong tv series
GOB sure is an asshole
At least Jerri Blank still cares about him.
Everytime he says “You can’t keep doing this,” all I can think of is Jesse saying, “he can’t keep getting away with it!!!”
pengxano r/whoosh!
Everyone’s talking about how sad this scene is
Meanwhile
I’m laughing hysterically about that counting to a million bit
ME TOO THE VOICE ACTING AND YHE MUSIC WAS SO ON SPOT
ITS SO FUNNY ESPECIALLY THE WAY HE JSUT STANDS THERE
The plot twist wasn't that he was going to say seven, but rather multiply a number to reach a million.
That or he accidentally said semen.
"Fuck, man... What else is there to say?"
That's just plain painful...
"You are all the things that are wrong with you"
That's crazy how quickly Bojack switched once Todd brought up Emily. He was so confident in knowing he had been generous to Todd, even listing things that real friends wouldn't even think about needing compensation for like hearing Todd's stories. But the second he realizes Todd might know how he fucked him over in secret, he's weirdly "remorseful", like he's not consciously manipulating the situation here. He's done it so often, he doesn't need to think about it anymore before switching to garner sympathy
I love this scene. I had people mistreat me and others and say I'm ( mentally ill, autistic, disabled, had a bad child hood, etc )and I can get away with it. These excuses can only go so far. I've had a crazy medical history, but hardly tell people about because it does not define me or my actions.
Who would have thought that Todd would be the sensible one showing Bojack a mirror about his issues.
Starting at 2:17 to the end of the video is one of the most brutally honest things I’ve ever heard.
In that monolog todd totaly became jesse pinkman
I just started watching Bojack Horseman and Todd is the character that I relate to most. I'm not much of a drama queen like Bojack, and I spend most of my time vegging out, I'm not asexual but I am aromantic, and now I can see myself stuck jobless and living on some celebrity's couch
How odd...
Aidan Barnes Then maybe you can explain to me about his character, why is he mad at bojack for having sex with emily?
I mean, i know he loves her in a weird way, he doesn’t care that she has sex with a bunch of firemen in the next season and tell him about it, its weird why he’s mad at all.
Ⓐ ANARCHY Ⓐ he says that he didn’t get mad that Bojack did it, but rather he got mad because to him it was the last straw. Which I relate to heavily, because as somebody who often represses or bottles up emotions until they boil over, it’s not always one major event that triggers you, sometimes it can be something super minor and constant it just gets on your nerves to the point where it makes you explodes. Todd couldn’t just ignore Bojack doing stupid stuff anymore and now he knows that Bojack doesn’t even have any sort of standard if he doesn’t mind sleeping with somebody who Todd is attracted to.
Think about it this way: it only takes one shake for a soda can to explode, doesn’t matter how.
@@ANARCHY.050 I think it's because bojack is supposed to be Todd's friend and he has let Todd down so many times before, and Bojack knew something was going on between Emily and Todd so he should have known better than to have sex with her then. Think of it without the lense of him being asexual, if you were in his shoes and your best friend had sex with the woman you were working things out with, how would you feel? It's different when it's your best friend vs some stranger too
Man Todd is everything you want to have as a best friend someone who can be with you at your lowest point. Comfort you when you truly need it. And isn’t afraid call out on someone bullshit when needed. Todd more than a laughing character I mean he is hilarious 😆. But he more than that, and that’s why we love him.
👏👏👏 we all need a Todd in our lives
I'd prefer not to have a random hobo staying in my house but if it's Todd then he could stay as long as he wants lol
We all should be the Todd 😳🤯
This is one of the reasons why this show does a much better job at properly framing toxic personalities than _Rick and Morty_ .
@@choolimba6704i don't like Rick and morty either bojack horseman is much better
Omfg I respect Todd a whole lot after this scene
If I'm not mistaken, this is also the last time the show used the flashback gag, right before Todd ripped into Bojack and ended their friendship, signalling that things were never truly going to return to how they were in the first few episodes of Season 1
That bit at the end, he just sounded so exhausted.
“It’s you. Alright? It’s you.
...Fuck, man, what else is there to say?”
This was one of the best and realest scenes ever! So powerful and moving! 😢
For a split second I thought Tuco Salamanca was going to come out of nowhere to beat Bojack to death.
1:04 since there are no true animals in this world, it's always funny seeing something as simple as a rubber duck get the anthro treatment as well
This is my favorite scene in BoJack Horseman.
That "Fuck, man..." at the end is just so genuine
The bongo thing made me lol on public transportation
“He can’t keep gettting AWAY WITH IT”
That sunset with the butt-shaped hills 🌅
Lol
Ass cancer
I do love that they stuck to their guns, Todd never really lets Bojack back into his life after this
When Todd said “You need to be better”............... I felt that
Every time i think that i am going to hurt someone with my selfish acts or words, i watch this video and i know that i have to stop and i have to be better... BJ is a great show full of reality
Incredible voices.
Todd is soooo fucking cute
I think I love this confrontation the most because not only does it work from the character perspective, but also from a meta perspective.
Across various Bojack clips on RUclips and in reddit posts about the show, a lot of people who feel weird about enjoying a character who isn't supposed to be redeemable or good try to make a series of justifications for his actions, from his childhood to the stumbling points of his adulthood. They miss the point entirely that, yes, while those are *explanations* for how Bojack became the person that he is, they are not *justifications* for how he is the way he is.
Plenty of people in real life have grown up in shitty households, have dealt with drug problems or alcoholism or career woes and so on, and they still manage to correct themselves or find help.
Bojack's problem *is* him. It is his sheer inability to admit that he is his own worst enemy, and that he frankly does enjoy doing shitty things to people because he thinks he's untouchable and can get away with it. He is someone who lives by his momentary whims and desires, but all that does is remind him that he's an empty ass horseman and so he looks for the next high.
He's a fantastically written character for sure, I don't think the show would be so popular otherwise, but I'd argue a big reason for that *is* because he rarely decides to learn from his mistakes, compared to so many "kinda shitty protagonists" who eventually find a sort of redemption or improvement. Bojack burns all bridges with most of his friends and repeatedly slaps the hand of the universe trying to point him in the right direction.
TLDR: Bojack is very well written character, but if he was real I would not want anything to do with him.
You know when the word “fuck” is used in this show that it is used to dish out every emotional cut it can make
Baby Todd is the baby i didnt think i needed
Todd is the best character in Bojack, confirmed.
Todd is the best
I like this part, don't get me wrong, but now that i think about it, it's basically the same speech of Kesse Pinkman about responsabilities.
The concept is the same, the meaning is the same, the words are similar, the actor is the same (lol)...
Fuck, man. What else is there to say?
The quiet piercing of that line. Aaron Paul is a fantastic actor.
“Fuck man, what else is there to say?”
Hits me hard everytime
One of the things Jesse learned from rehab
I’m just looking at that pizza slice on the wall and thinking “who puts that much tomato sauce on a pizza?”
That speech really hurts cuz it's true......
Bojack's got a lot of nerve trying to belittle Todd like he's a parent while constantly sabotaging him and then taking advantage of him to get what he wants. It's very clear why after this Todd moves out and their friendship never goes back to where it used to be.
_BACK IN THE NINETIES_
I cant not hear "HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS"
It’s easy to forget that this show is a comedy sometimes
Todd isn't always lucid, ok, he's never lucid, but when he is, he knocks it out of the park! In fact, I know a few people who need to get this Todd talk - STAT!
I’ve only watched up until the end of Season 3 & out of all the things Todd has ever said, this was The only time he ever said anything intelligent and down to earth. And it hurts. It hurts.
I know this was 3 years ago so I'm not sure if you ever finished the series or rewatched it, but I personally disagree with this statement as someone who's just finished season 3. Todd isn't the brightest in a lot of areas, but he is very emotionally mature and that side of him shows the most when Bojack hurts him. Back in (I believe) season 1, Bojack had intentionally sabotaged Todd's rock opera career or whatever because he didn't want him to move out, knowing how much it had meant to him. When Todd found out, he just distanced himself from Bojack for a while. Bkjack noticed, got paranoid, and started assuming that Todd was trying to get revenge which we find out towards the end of the episode that the idea of getting revenge hadn't even crossed his mind. Bojack sighs in relief and immediately assumes that it means that everything is okay, but Todd then vocally made it very clear that it was *not* okay and addressed how what Bojack did genuinely hurt him. Then later into the season, in the episode where they both get really high with Sarah Lynn, Bojack starts getting paranoid again when him and Todd are about to attack each other with brooms that they thought were guns because he was still angry and trying to get revenge or something, but Todd quickly hushes him and says this line:
"quiet quiet quiet quiet. As you know, I was hurt. But, then I realized, that's just how you are. Yknow, maybe I should just stop expecting you to be a good person. So that way, I won't get hurt.. when you're not."
I do agree that this scene (so far at least) has been the *most* intelligent and down to earth thing he's said, but not the only one Imo. But honestly yeah they are mostly just when he's confronting Bojack about the messed up shit he does lmao
(Sorry I just realized how long this was when I sent it.. oops)
I was expecting the counting to a million thing to be Todd as like, a 9 year old, but honestly seeing it cut to adult Todd counting was kinda hilarious
While every person who Bojack hurt has a right to blow-up at him; Todds both hurt but served as such a relief to me. He had every right to tell him off here after what he did to Emily and general years of built up disrespect from Bojack.
Bongo butt was lowkey cute
Todd went from a happy dummy to a serious adult
I know everyone said it already, but it's crazy how they slipped two of the silliest moments in the season in this scene, then completely flip the tone on its head with Todd finally losing his shit at Bojack.
Saddest and most intense scene of the show...
This reminds me a lot of the scene in season 4 of Veep when Gary finally yells at Selina, telling her about all the times he was loyal to her. Even though their relationship still continues unlike Todd and Bojack's, both are scenes which are shocking, because they show characters who are constantly sweet, loyal, and forgiving, finally putting their foot down to people who use them and manipulate them.
damn it felt like todd was tallking to me...
How many times did Bojack throw out, "I was drunk" as an excuse? Will Arnett must have tapped into some dark memories to make that work.
I am not sure what is it exactly but, "TAADOO, mi en taaaddoooo, bad time come make todd hygiene and clean"
Bathtime come make Todd shiny and clean
Todd wasn't talking to just bojack, he was talking to all of us.
1:04 wtf Jess....I mean Todd
🎵Bathtime come, makes Todd shiny and clean!🎵
I think this is probably the most effect cut to back in the 90’s. The back in the 90’s during the Beatrice episode was a very very close second but idk something about this one after Todd who up to this point has been mostly the goofy best friend saying the F-bomb of the season and in such a disappointed it just fucking broke me. Then back in 90s it’s just perfect
2:06 “i thought maybe you gave her one of your weird monologues about how SAD you are…” usually, because of bojack’s bitter nature and his jealousy towards happy-go-lucky people like mr peanutbutter and todd, he looks down on them- constantly mocking their fun and happy demeanors while he remains miserable. it’s because he’s jealous and unable to understand how and WHY they live happy lives that he looks down on them as people. here, it’s the opposite, which was extremely satisfying to watch. for once- *todd* is shitting on bojack’s terrible attitude about everything. and by his extremely harsh tone, and the way he’s angrily rolling his eyes, you can see it’s finally his turn to mock bojack instead. it’s his turn to talk down to bojack rather than the other way around. finally for once we get to understand more of todd’s perspective and see the way he thinks bojack’s depressing nature is extremely odd and off putting. bojack deserved every bit of that mockery
2:16
just like his acting in breaking bad
A few people are comparing Aaron Paul's performance here to his outbursts as Jesse in Breaking Bad. I disagree. I think one of the reasons Aaron's performance is so masterful in both is the fact I *can't* picture this as a conversation between Walt and Jesse. This isn't Aaron being angry, this is *Todd* being angry (and remorseful). Aaron has crafted Todd into his own distinct character and brought him out here and that care and planning shows.
Creators of Bojack: 1:16
Netflix: No, stop!
Creators of Bojack: But I was just getting to the good part...
Netflix: What seven!?
I'm still sad that Todd and BJ did not get a final happy scene together. There was that firework scene in the finale but i expected something better
That's a good life lesson, Feeling shitty about what you did doesnt make you ok or less shitty
About Emily, it is not just Bojack's fault, it is also of Emily for being frustrated with Todd, and also Todd's for not telling Emily on time his real feelings (either he felt not ready for a romantic relationship or that he is asexual).
Nevertheless, out of this, it is good Todd finally put Bojack in his place and decided to leave him. Not for Emily, but for him. Bojack has acted shitty with him since the beginning, and he was going to use him again in order to not feel alone again.
It takes 11 and a half days to count to a million
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THISSSSSSSS
when the comedic friend finally had enough
2:18 That was Jesse Pinkman talking to Todd Alquist