It won't be obvious from this story, but I personally think that Barbara becomes one of the strongest classic companions of Who. I think this original team end up working brilliantly together once the showmakers get a feel for what they actually have to play with.
To quote TV Tropes, "the first season could have been called the Barbara Wright is Awesome show and nobody would have disagreed with you". They may have been quoting someone in turn though.
The quasi-POV shots were necessary because the scenes were being shot in strict chronological order. While Ian and Barbara are chatting in the car they were literally cutting away to the classroom sets at the opposite end of the studio floor leaving Carol Anne Ford to react (almost) straight to camera to the pre-recorded dialogue.
The feedback that you can hear is quite possibly from the Directors gallery, coming over the headphones that the camera operators needed to wear in order to receive directions (from the Directors assistant). The boom microphone was probably catching the audio. I far prefer this version. The Doctor (at Hartnell's request) has been lightened up; and it's made clear that they come from some other world,in some other time - little more than a convenient throwaway reference at the time...but,with hindsight, immensely important for the direction of the show as it moved forward!
Yeah, I think it may have been. It's more than likely that, having worked in the industry and bleed through being an issue. Yeah, talkback systems can be a nightmare. Looking back on it, this version is brilliant. There's one or two things I'd bring over from the unaired pilot, but the rest this version. Yes, most definitely! (Apologies for the delay in reply!)
Back in 2012 I decided to do the same thing - go watch all the classic who episodes. It was quite a journey and quite enjoyable. I hope you enjoy your own journey.
Thank you so much! I'd honestly thought it was going to be almost the same, but it was the parts that I didn't think they would change that they did change. I much preferred that Susan did the Rorschach drawings.
Thank you so much Hudson! I've been loving it so far, thank you for watching and I hope you've been enjoying my reactions to the series so far. I've got a long way to go and plan on getting more videos out quicker once I'm all moved in (and apologies for the late reply, I'm playing catchup!)
What a strange bunch. The mysterious stranger is played by a man who was being typecast as a grumpy old man, most notably in "The Army Game" and "Carry On Sergeant". The action hero is played by the star of "Sir Launcelot" which was a sort of Robin Hood-like show in the 1950s. The hero's girlfriend was married to director Alvin Rakoff and she also discovered Sean Connery. The young girl character had to be "weird" and had played a blind girl in "Day of the Triffids"; she was meant to be 15 but was actually 23 and had a child (an earthly one). The show was produced by a woman (interesting enough by itself at the time) who had fixed a production problem once when a man died on live TV and they had to cover that up; later she would go on to produce "Morons From Outer Space".
I've been trying to find out who designed that Dress at 03:12 since about 2003!! I'm 45 now and prolly too fricken old to wear it even if I did acquire one of them, but it is what got me interested in fashion, that is the most stylish garment I've ever seen in my life. ❤️
Hi Carrina! Honestly, I'm not sure. I'd heard about the issues with missing stories. I think if they're not available, then those will be skipped for now, until a time comes when they may possibly do some sort of release of the story. I do remember someone saying there were some lost episodes turned into animations. I'm not sure if that's all of them though. The idea of animation versions is... different, and I'm not sure what I think. I love animation, don't get me wrong, but I suppose it's all they have for making something new. I've seen parts of the animation, which look well made, just different against the other episodes surrounding them. Thanks for watching and commenting! Hopefully you'll be here for my Classic Who run, the show looks great so far
@@MoviesWithMarty well I do advise you find some way of watching them as there is ALOT missing in season 3 specificly and if you skip them you'll miss SO Much including companions coming and going. As for the animations. Would highly recommend.
Couple of technical points - the 'POV' shot - remember on the huge cameras they were using, to pull focus they actually had to physically change the lens - which would i imagine restrict what they could do - also they had to really plan then the shots because the cameras were fed by very heavy trailing cables,and with multiple cameras that they used they could easily end in huge cable ties... This went out on TV's with a resolution of 405 lines - not 625 as i grew up with never mind HD - the video and sound have been cleaned up by the 'restoration team' so you might be able to hear things that couldnt be on broadcast. Also it was as was the case until the last 20-30 years produced in house by BBC drama - not outsourced as is the practice now - in fact the show is only now being outsourced from the 60th.
Ooh, I didn't know about the lens change back then, thank you for that. Yes, that would. Oh yes, I know about all those trailing cables haha, I was TV Producer at a TV studio at one point. It wasn't that great, but I saw the struggle with those cables...and the trip hazards! Haha. Yeah, it's great that they've cleaned it up. Hopefully it didn't come across like I was moaning about the audio / video issues, I personally love them, as for the time they couldn't help it too much and it was just a factor for the day that they had those issues. I only mention them to highlight them because I love them and to smile at them. Oh really? That's interesting to note. Yes, I think it's... Bad Wolf Productions now? I might be wrong, I just remember that name floating around. The BBC must have had a plateful on their hands with producing this mammoth of a show back in the day. I hold my hands up to them, as the hours put into it would have been huge
@@EaterOfBaconSandwiches There's an obvious retake in this episode. It occurs after Susan's line about the fog being mysterious. Look at Carole Ann Ford's eyeline as the shot changes.
@@MoviesWithMarty The cameras had no zoom lenses but did have a range of fixed focal length lenses turret mounted so swapping was 'just' a matter of rotating the turret. Unfortunately, the turret locking mechanism was very loud--to the extent that lens changes couldn't take place as recording was happening since the 'clunk' would be picked up on the boom mics. So many challenges for directors in those early multi camera studio set ups!
By the way.... Thanks for doing this. X I love the atmosphere of 63 - 89 who.. (and big finish stories) but have little Time or patience for post 2005 televisual WHO... With a tiny number of exceptions. This is part of my life. ✌️
I honestly like the original version better. The scene where Ian and Barbara first explore the junkyard is far more atmospheric, the doctor and Susan coming across as far more freaked out and worried about being discovered makes a lot of contextual sense (and makes for more drama, since the characters are so new it's hard to tell what they might potentially do to the teachers), and I really adore the futuristic outfit they originally gave Susan.
Yes, this was and still is a widly underrated brilliantly done episode I like a lot myself Later on there were also a bunch of authors taking elements from that episode into their own writing and filming. Here in Germany the episodes were shown first decades later since the series content somewhat conflicted with the West German Morality Laws, commonly known as LEX HEINZE ( compare Wikipedia for reference ) I really would like from you a WATCHING of QUATERMASS AND THE PIT, one of my personal favorites. The British miniseries was better as the later done movie version I think
It won't be obvious from this story, but I personally think that Barbara becomes one of the strongest classic companions of Who. I think this original team end up working brilliantly together once the showmakers get a feel for what they actually have to play with.
To quote TV Tropes, "the first season could have been called the Barbara Wright is Awesome show and nobody would have disagreed with you".
They may have been quoting someone in turn though.
The quasi-POV shots were necessary because the scenes were being shot in strict chronological order. While Ian and Barbara are chatting in the car they were literally cutting away to the classroom sets at the opposite end of the studio floor leaving Carol Anne Ford to react (almost) straight to camera to the pre-recorded dialogue.
This version was recorded exactly three weeks after the pilot on Friday 18th October 1963. Same studio - Lime Grove D
Amazing! Thank you for letting me know John (Apologies for the delay!)
The feedback that you can hear is quite possibly from the Directors gallery, coming over the headphones that the camera operators needed to wear in order to receive directions (from the Directors assistant). The boom microphone was probably catching the audio.
I far prefer this version. The Doctor (at Hartnell's request) has been lightened up; and it's made clear that they come from some other world,in some other time - little more than a convenient throwaway reference at the time...but,with hindsight, immensely important for the direction of the show as it moved forward!
Yeah, I think it may have been. It's more than likely that, having worked in the industry and bleed through being an issue. Yeah, talkback systems can be a nightmare. Looking back on it, this version is brilliant. There's one or two things I'd bring over from the unaired pilot, but the rest this version. Yes, most definitely! (Apologies for the delay in reply!)
Back in 2012 I decided to do the same thing - go watch all the classic who episodes. It was quite a journey and quite enjoyable. I hope you enjoy your own journey.
Good job on picking out the subtle differences between the unaired pilot and the first broadcast.
Thank you so much! I'd honestly thought it was going to be almost the same, but it was the parts that I didn't think they would change that they did change. I much preferred that Susan did the Rorschach drawings.
And the first line of the transmitted version of the first episode of Doctor Who was actually an impersonation of Kenneth Williams!
stop messin' about.
@@TheZodiacz Well reeeaarrrrly!
Watching this now, i can see William Hartnell being an awesome Willy Wonka
So excited to see your thoughts of Classic who! There’s so many awesome serials. Love the reaction!
Thank you so much Hudson! I've been loving it so far, thank you for watching and I hope you've been enjoying my reactions to the series so far. I've got a long way to go and plan on getting more videos out quicker once I'm all moved in (and apologies for the late reply, I'm playing catchup!)
What a strange bunch. The mysterious stranger is played by a man who was being typecast as a grumpy old man, most notably in "The Army Game" and "Carry On Sergeant". The action hero is played by the star of "Sir Launcelot" which was a sort of Robin Hood-like show in the 1950s. The hero's girlfriend was married to director Alvin Rakoff and she also discovered Sean Connery. The young girl character had to be "weird" and had played a blind girl in "Day of the Triffids"; she was meant to be 15 but was actually 23 and had a child (an earthly one). The show was produced by a woman (interesting enough by itself at the time) who had fixed a production problem once when a man died on live TV and they had to cover that up; later she would go on to produce "Morons From Outer Space".
I've been trying to find out who designed that Dress at 03:12 since about 2003!! I'm 45 now and prolly too fricken old to wear it even if I did acquire one of them, but it is what got me interested in fashion, that is the most stylish garment I've ever seen in my life. ❤️
Susan (Carole Ann Ford) is an absolute style icon, a bit Audrey Hepburn, a bit Barbra Streisand, and a bit Liz Taylor sort of blended together!!!
Just wondering, what will you be doing about the 'missing stories' in the first 6 seasons?
Hi Carrina! Honestly, I'm not sure. I'd heard about the issues with missing stories. I think if they're not available, then those will be skipped for now, until a time comes when they may possibly do some sort of release of the story. I do remember someone saying there were some lost episodes turned into animations. I'm not sure if that's all of them though. The idea of animation versions is... different, and I'm not sure what I think. I love animation, don't get me wrong, but I suppose it's all they have for making something new. I've seen parts of the animation, which look well made, just different against the other episodes surrounding them. Thanks for watching and commenting! Hopefully you'll be here for my Classic Who run, the show looks great so far
@@MoviesWithMarty well I do advise you find some way of watching them as there is ALOT missing in season 3 specificly and if you skip them you'll miss SO Much including companions coming and going. As for the animations. Would highly recommend.
Couple of technical points - the 'POV' shot - remember on the huge cameras they were using, to pull focus they actually had to physically change the lens - which would i imagine restrict what they could do - also they had to really plan then the shots because the cameras were fed by very heavy trailing cables,and with multiple cameras that they used they could easily end in huge cable ties...
This went out on TV's with a resolution of 405 lines - not 625 as i grew up with never mind HD - the video and sound have been cleaned up by the 'restoration team' so you might be able to hear things that couldnt be on broadcast.
Also it was as was the case until the last 20-30 years produced in house by BBC drama - not outsourced as is the practice now - in fact the show is only now being outsourced from the 60th.
Ooh, I didn't know about the lens change back then, thank you for that. Yes, that would. Oh yes, I know about all those trailing cables haha, I was TV Producer at a TV studio at one point. It wasn't that great, but I saw the struggle with those cables...and the trip hazards! Haha.
Yeah, it's great that they've cleaned it up. Hopefully it didn't come across like I was moaning about the audio / video issues, I personally love them, as for the time they couldn't help it too much and it was just a factor for the day that they had those issues. I only mention them to highlight them because I love them and to smile at them. Oh really? That's interesting to note. Yes, I think it's... Bad Wolf Productions now? I might be wrong, I just remember that name floating around. The BBC must have had a plateful on their hands with producing this mammoth of a show back in the day. I hold my hands up to them, as the hours put into it would have been huge
@@EaterOfBaconSandwiches There's an obvious retake in this episode. It occurs after Susan's line about the fog being mysterious. Look at Carole Ann Ford's eyeline as the shot changes.
@@MoviesWithMarty The cameras had no zoom lenses but did have a range of fixed focal length lenses turret mounted so swapping was 'just' a matter of rotating the turret. Unfortunately, the turret locking mechanism was very loud--to the extent that lens changes couldn't take place as recording was happening since the 'clunk' would be picked up on the boom mics.
So many challenges for directors in those early multi camera studio set ups!
By the way.... Thanks for doing this. X
I love the atmosphere of 63 - 89 who.. (and big finish stories) but have little Time or patience for post 2005 televisual WHO... With a tiny number of exceptions.
This is part of my life. ✌️
I honestly like the original version better. The scene where Ian and Barbara first explore the junkyard is far more atmospheric, the doctor and Susan coming across as far more freaked out and worried about being discovered makes a lot of contextual sense (and makes for more drama, since the characters are so new it's hard to tell what they might potentially do to the teachers), and I really adore the futuristic outfit they originally gave Susan.
Yes, this was and still is a widly underrated brilliantly done episode I like a lot myself
Later on there were also a bunch of authors taking elements from that episode into their own writing and filming.
Here in Germany the episodes were shown first decades later since the series content somewhat conflicted with the West German Morality Laws, commonly known as LEX HEINZE ( compare Wikipedia for reference )
I really would like from you a WATCHING of QUATERMASS AND THE PIT, one of my personal favorites. The British miniseries was better as the later done movie version I think
Orginal air date was the day after JFK was shot soo they reaired this episode a week later
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Gooooooooooooooooood :D How's it going with you too?