THE WORST RV CAMPING ETIQUETTE EVER [RV BOONDOCKING]
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THE WORST RV CAMPING ETIQUETTE EVER [RVing Full Time]
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If you what our channel then you know that we are huge Boondocking fans. This weeks video is all about some of the worst RV camping etiquette we have ever seen. It's a fact, the US Forest Service is closing down sections of National Forests due to abuse and overcrowding.. Areas of the Coconino National Forest and Prescott National Forest are prime examples. Click "SHOW MORE" for links to our favorite RV resources, gadgets and gear!
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Thank you as a retired US Forest Service Employee your public service announcement is spot on.
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Let me ask, as you rangers patrol, you do know who was where, what condition the area was in before and after they left. You know who the trouble makers are while they are there. I see it when I am out, doesn't take a college degree.Why in sam hill is this not being taken care of? You know who the trouble makers are. I actually got arrested confronting a punk littering after HE CALLED THE COPS ON ME! talk about total BS! America is going to hell, government just sitting back and letting it happen. Total pissed and fed up with bureaucracy.
@@flatbedtruckingsamrides.9355 yes its getting rediculous.. years ago..my daughter just got a new bike we kept in our apartment. Two kids from another area in the complex decided they were going to force my daughter to allow them to take it for a ride and disappear..i could tell by their actions.. i let the kids know as he forced his way in front of her that we did not know them and she just got the bike so we were not loaning it out. Once i got the child off her bike without touching either one by saying my daughter is going to ride it around once first the other kid backed off. And my daughter rode it to the tree and back. I said its lunch time and we are going in now. That got me a visit, but luckily after i explained that we live here and my daughter was trying out the bike when they asked to ride and tried forcing her off the bike. I was sitting in a folding chair. Till i got up to go in the house and my daughter took the bike inside. Fortunately the truth was accepted and the kids were told to stay away from our section, but at the beginning it could have gone either way.
We make it a point to also carry bags and bags of garbage with every stop. SUGGESTION: Arizona, as one of the greatest boondocking states in the USA, would benefit from having taxpayer and federal grant paid state-wide garbage dumpsters positioned at rest areas and popular camping areas. Id pick up even more garbage voluntarily. Problem is once I have it, I end up having to slowly redistribute it to a number of garbage cans as I boondock about and travel across country.
@@Roobah I agree as I saw this past November when I was out on Federal Land in Michigan I saw that somebody had lived at a site which I'm assuming was hunters and they left it a complete mess I would have personally been happy to clean it up just so that that area can still be used by people but there was no place for me to dump the garbage and I was driving an SUV that did not have the room to hold any garbage if there were garbage facilities available on Federal Land I do believe that more people would be willing to do the right things when they are out unfortunately I also know that people would be dumping their garbage there instead of paying for their trash removal at their homes
Leave no trace. All campers, backpackers, day hikers, RVers, all need to learn these principles.
Thanks for watching!
Same here in the UK.
If you can take it there then you can take it away.
That SHOULD include those painted rocks. Leave them at ranger stations, in restrooms or at gas stations...NOT IN THE WILDERNESS.
Leave no trace needs to be taught in elementary schools. We all need to know and understand we clean up after ourselves.
Learned that at a young age from Boy Scouts.
My parents made us pick up everything. They said, leave this area like we were not even here.We even clean up other people's garbage.
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I remembered in the Boy Scouts,, picking up trash was called policing the area.
Take nothing but photographs, leave nothing but footprints, keep nothing but memories.
As a kid, if I dropped something like a gum wrapper on the ground my mother would have smacked me. But then, I’m old.
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I grew up like this and don't mind teaching the old values to my kids.... like respecting your surroundings,neighbour's and not littering.
Me too . .people are just assuming somebody else will clean it . . jack asses!!
😆 that's whats wrong with half kids now days parents are afraid to teach or discipline.
Some of us moms still do this
The few that ruin it for the many. Thanks for giving more visibility to this issue. Travel safe.
Thanks Bob! We're doing our part to make things better for everyone.
Always leave it better than you found it. Lots of people don’t get this! Thanks for your video, safe travels!
How disappointing that we have to remind people to act like responsible and respectful humans. Common sense has gone the way of being kind to one another. Thank you for gently reminding everyone!!
Thanks for watching!
Right on. It's crazy people don't know these basic things.
There is no such thing as common sense.
If there was, then everyone would have it.
Sadly, some people don’t and never will.
I'm noticing a disturbing trend. Rv people who can't camp without making a narcisst video on everything.
LOL...was there something of value you wanted or add to the discussion or did you just want to add your two non-cents....get it?! 🤣
It’s sad that parents refuse to admit the dangers of those ATV’s. My husband is an MD at our local Trauma hospital and has warned about the dangers of kids and ATVs for years. He has seen so many children die from or sustain brain injuries from riding those - especially without helmets. Parents need to wake up!!
Thanks for watching!
They drive them on the sidewalks around my house as fast as they can go. It is only a matter of time before something bad happens.
I'm constantly out one or two times a month on atvs and have hundreds of friends and acquaintance in the recreational activity and have yet to meet a parent won't admit the dangers of riding. Its hard to belive people as such even exist
One of my biggest complaints is fire pits being used as a garbage can. Also fires not being completely put out.
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I cant even tell you how many fires I have put out just so those goobers don't ruin it for the rest of us. Makes me so mad. I was shocked the first time I saw a smoldering fire pit with no one around. How does anyone even think that its no big deal? 🤬
I am an old fart and we were taught to respect and clean up after yourself leave it better then you found it. The way people are today a lot could careless and those are the ones that ruin it for all. Enjoy your travels 😎
Thanks for your insight, Mike!
Yeah, but it is funny how the young people are the people I see caring more about leaving our forests pristine and the old farts that often don't seem to care. Obviously, I am not talking about you, and I am probably the same age as you, but there are a lot more young people doing more for the planet than there are old people. All I hear from most old people is them complaining about the young people.
S.J. Bruner this is what I see as well, the younger generation seem to care for the land and seem more involved with their children enjoying the great outdoors. I see older people that are more disrespectful to other campers, leaving behind trash and overall making forest rangers and volunteers jobs more difficult.
We are in our mid 30s and we camp with a few other families in their 30s and our parents and grandparents taught us how to treat others and this land with respect, but we have dealt with quite a few older groups that we’ve literally had to clean up after and keep our distance from because of their lack of respect.
This happens with all age groups and demographics and we all need to help educate and be the example for others. We have actually stopped boon docking because of the people we’ve encountered.
@@SASEntertainment Exactly, although I am in my 50's I am originally from California and well as you know we have a reputation for being Green Monsters for a lack of any other word! LMBO! I still prefer to take my own bags to the store even though I am in the south now, and I drink from large washable insulated cups with metal or silicon straws and yes, I am sure my neighbors just shake their head at me, but I am just so used to doing so and it feels so much better to do so! Once you get accustomed to it. I deliver groceries and then obviously I have to use plastic bags because I don't have enough cloth bags to give away, but I am amazed at how many people drink from single use water bottles still. Do you know what happens to your water when it sits in the heat in those things? :o
Apparently respect is something that is being taught less and less, and it is so unfortunate. We try to teach our daughter to take care of other's stuff and pick up after herself. It's a simple lesson that many people are missing these days.
When you get a bunch of humans all trying to the do the same thing, the disrespectful ones will ruin it for everyone else. I hope they an find a way to fine people or something.
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If you speak up, they freak out "OMG what's it matter to you?!?" Well I'll tell you how it matters to me. They shuttin' this sht down on ALL of us now cuz a you! That's what matters to ME!
"Omg, omg.... I can't believe you don't mind your own business.."
B, I just explained to you how it's my business!
"OMG! I hope you know I'm recording you!!"
lol and around and around it goes.
I saw a video of an older guy telling a bunch of 20yr olds to pick up and move their beach camp spot OFF the driving path. He wasn't MEAN but he was blunt and a bit questioning of their decision making in choosing that spot. And they're mostly doing it, moving chairs, shelters, cooking, etc. And this girl comes over to his truck window, camera in hand trying to shame him for not being nice about it "I'm recording you!" He just laughed and filmed her back. And she walked off sulking.
You can't ask anyone to cooperate anymore, all generations included.
@@C.Church No it is because of the people leaving trash behind and destroying the natural beauty of the land.
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Glady,
Why are you referring to Communism.
Back in late May, we headed to Colorado BLM land where we have been camping for the past 8-9 years. We encountered THE WORST campers ever! The area we were in is surrounded by ATV trails and in the past we have always seen riders use trail etiquette and respect for other campers. This time, we had a rider who insisted on using the trails as his own personal dirt bike racetrack and he proceeded to tell us that if we didn't like it, then we shouldn't be there. The trails that he was racing around were impacting at least 6 other campsites. We tried to reason with him and explain that the lands are free to everyone and the trail was not intended to be used as a racetrack. He proceeded to get belligerent with us and told us to wait until morning when he would start racing at 6am. The next morning at 6am, he was out racing! He woke up every campsite! Everyone on the loop was trying to make him stop, but he wouldn't. Everyone made calls to the Sheriff's Dept. (it took 5-6 hours for the Sheriff to show up, due to low staffing as you mentioned and they were responding to other calls). The Sheriff was able to talk to the guy and the behavior stopped! We were all shocked that it had come down to needing to make a call to the Sheriff. One RUDE camper/rider ruined everyone's weekend! ALL of us have the responsibility to RESPECT our camping neighbors and the land. Pack it in, pack it out! Leave no trace! Do your part!
Thanks for watching!
Oh no way! Dude would have found slashed tires soon after the belligerent behavior began!! Am sick of asshats!!
I would have disabled his ATV, and if necessary I would have disabled his ability to ride said ATV.
Put down a board full of NAILS! Flatten his disrespectful shenanigans!
I ride dirt bikes. I don't know if you realize that typically in the dirt bike /off road community dirt bike riders disassociate themselves from quad riders because many times (not always) we find quad riders disrespectful to other people and the land itself. However there are many quad riders that are not idiots. I'm told
Our rule that we teach our kids is that you always leave it better than you found it.
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There's the biggest lesson I ever took away from Boy Scouts.
I don’t feel it’s whining, I feel it’s legit to feel that way.
Thanks Pam!
It's sad but the people that need to see this probably wont watch it
@@rowdydog4609 So true!
Your like having Ed Flanders for a neighbor.
Hey guys, there shouldn’t be any need for educating campers, simply pack it in, pack it out. Unfortunately people are just lazy, have no respect for this beautiful country we live in let alone respect for themselves. It is really sad!!
So true! Thanks for watching!
It’s depressing watching our county go to crap because of ignorant, lazy people who have no respect for others. And if you say something to these be people be prepared to have come down to their level because they will get crazy and violent in some cases. Sometimes I have to bite my tongue to avoid problems because I have a short temper but what is this would coming to!?
Unfortunately as more and more people who have never done this before I getting out there, there really is a need to educate people in boondocking etiquette. As sad as it is, it's necessary because common sense seems to be in short supply these days. 😔
Without education, these low IQ entitled folks won't know any better. My dad is a teacher and educated us in and out of the classroom as kids to leave every place we went cleaner than we found it. Sometimes that included our own classroom. Education is absolutly needed more so now than ever.
Back in the day, as a Boy Scout, we were taught to leave the place BETTER than we found it.
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I was taught back in my scoutings days pack it in and pack all back out. and I live by this today.
Thanks for watching!
Our comments, opinions and viewpoint are in no way intended to paint the US Forest Service employees or volunteers in a poor light. They do the best they can with the limited resources available to them. We appreciate the Volunteer Camp Hosts hard work and dedication to making our public lands accessible for everyone!
Exactly! My parents did full time RVing for 30+ years and they did a lot of camp hosting and they use to complain about what condition people would leave campsites and bathrooms and you name it!
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I respect that the Forest Service doesn’t want their volunteers to get into a situation that could potentially turn dangerous for them, that’s the angle I took when you mentioned that they were told to call Law Enforcement.
You are correct!
Last week we were boondocking with friends up near Big Lake in an area we had all to ourselves. Late one evening as the sun was setting, a camper van pulled in right behind our friends camper, we text our friends from our camper, none of us knew them, we armed up and stepped outside. A woman and her dog were standing outside the van, I approached to ask if we could help her, as I did her dog started to attack, I drew my weapon and she called the dog back. I asked her if we could help her, we had no idea at this point if there was anyone else in the camper van, she said she wanted to camp with us!!! Again, not knowing who else was in the camper van, we asked her to leave as there were millions of acres to camp. This may sound cruel to some, I’m sure the comments will reflect that, but as a retired police officer I will suggest if this ever happens to you, don’t trust anyone!!! The couple in Texas a few months back trusted a couple (guess when campers see a woman they think it’s okay), they were killed, their camper and truck were stolen and later found with the murderers in Mexico! Be friendly but TRUST NO ONE!!!
We totally agree Cindy. We have had this happen on a couple of occasions with older people but we chalked it up to them wanting to feel safer. Thankfully you didn't have to dispatch the dog! Yikes! We are usually very mindful of our surroundings and have weapons onboard should it be necessary to protect ourselves.
Yes, people REALLY let down their guard when they see a woman. Little do they know thieves often send an unassuming woman out first to scope out the potential victims and their belongings.
How horrible! I just can't imagine how some people become so evil. BTW, to some extent this also happens in apartment complexes. Just had to move from one. Sweet seeming young lady moves in. Then boyfriend moves in with and a drug den begins. It was a scene repeated throughout the complex time and again. The crack/meth smoke stink was getting into my apartment and making me ill.
Be careful out there. Some people are horrible.
God for you. Stand your ground in a civil way. She could have been testing you for a set up. That is my city life instinct.
You did the right thing.
I have a feeling that a lot of RVs will be for sale once covid 19 is fading. Until then safe travels and thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
My buddy saw a survey that I think it said 80 percent of motorhome and campers were not doing it next year. Should be some bargains out there next year on used campers and motorhomes.
80 percent of new motorhomes and campers sold this year.
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This is what I'm hoping for! I hope they all sell their RV's & go back to their big crowded cities where it's "normal" to leave their trash everywhere and be rude & disrespectful to their neighbors.
The wife and I live across the road from a large lake. Weekends can bring 100s of camper trailers tents and motor homes. Nearly every rule is broken by at least ten pr weekend! We’ve seen all and more at the lake. Even electric fences! It saddens us to know that this is a national trend. I ask of everyone to do what they can to confront this trend and help improve the etiquette that was the norm. So many places have been closed and so many more will follow as disrespectful and inconsiderate behavior goes unchecked! I personally have had my life threatened and been pursued by as many as six campers at a time for standing up for what is right! I need a cane to walk so it doesn’t take much to out pace me. Stay safe but stand strong or we will loose our lands!
Sad to hear. Thanks for watching!
Just a note about the electric fence. If they are just placing it around their camper and vehicle, it may be an attempt to prevent rodent and other small mammal infestation (getting into the engine and also getting into the trailer/living quarters). I’ve heard electric fencing recommenced in the past.
@@PaDutchRunner so you know it is illegal on state lands to erect any type fence for any reason without written authorization. That being said, if you don’t want nature coming to your camp, don’t go camping!
Tow Mater I guess I was thinking of the scenario of driving to Alaska and ending up with an engine full of porcupines, which I have heard happening.
I swear people are so damn lazy, entitled & disgusting. How can anyone disrespect the beautiful resources like forests, lakes, lands as well as disrespect themselves in not cleaning up after themselves. This is why I LOVE animals because people suck!!!
We chalk it up to people just not being educated on how to appreciate our public lands. Hopefully this video will help educate those who need it.
@@LyfUninterrupted Do we have to educate people on how to be a decent human being.
In some cases, yes.
@@michaelquirke1281 uh, YES...........................GIMMES !......i don't camp any longer.....but, i've had folks walk right into our site, pick up our firewood and walk out.....we had to lock it up.....that was in OR......may explain it...
While the issue is real, we feel your assertion that 9 out of 10 RVers and van dwellers create these kinds of issues is incredible inaccurate.
Maybe there should be HUGE signs saying, if you can't pack it in/pack it out, go somewhere else.
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People Do Not Read Signs.
They will just ignore them, shoot them, burn them, tear them down, mock them or drag them out with their winches. I am a BLM Park Ranger I have seen it all.
Omg thank you for taking this on.......as people flee from the heat, fires, and smoke....they need to realize it’s all we have left. Don’t abuse it...
Thanks for watching!
Omg. People. Been thinking about fulltime. I always said pack it out. You're not whining, I feel the same way. I live in Arizona.
Thanks for watching!
I feel your frustration. We experienced this a few weeks ago in our local state park campground. Trash everywhere throughout our site. We've gone there often and never seen it that bad. Needless to say we picked up all the trash but it was a bit disheartening.
Thanks for doing your part! We appreciate having you in our community!
On the kids...It just seems it is always someone blaming others for what their are doing wrong....we just have so many dumb people raising the same.
Well said Tim!
@Carl Hopf That reminds me of the old saying, "point one finger at someone, look at the three fingers pointing at yourself"
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Thats why military uses knife hand! LOL
Start videotaping and posting .
I live on the North West coast of Australia. Our winter is the perfect temp. This year we have seen a dramatic increase in campers. We have a beach north and south. The north beach had a community clean up day because it had so much rubbish. The clean up was conducted on land and by divers in the sea. The south had to be closed because of rubbish everywhere plus people driving on the sand where the turtles lay their eggs. Lots of nests have been crushed.
Thanks for sharing! Sorry to hear this!
Good idea about the local clean up day!
You're not "whining." Stop qualifying your message with that. You're spot on, and a whole lot more mellow than I'd be. Enjoy your travels. Thanks for camping respectfully.
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Thanks for bringing this to the forefront! We all need to be respectful. Great job!🙌
Thank you Mary!
Absolutely correct, I agree and get it. I have witnessed huge amounts of trash left behind when boondocking and like you, carry a trash bag. Unfortunately this is as I see it, one more example of the deterioration of America
Thanks Hermes! We appreciate you watching!
Same here!
Take nothing but photographs,.... leave nothing but footprints ❤️
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People leaving behind garbage is so frustrating. The rule is simple: leave the campsite in better condition then when you arrived. Also hang your trash from a tree (keeps the rodents out during the night).
Thanks for watching!
remember when you could leave your ice chest on a picnic table and no one stole your stuff ???????
It is sad how some people bad habits and behavior affects others. Don't behave like savages and PICK UP YOUR OWN TRASH ! That's the message !
Yes! Well said!
THEY'LL LAUGH AT YOU TOO..................FOR POINTING IT OUT...............
Common curtesy has been lost. So sad. Love the cattle.
Hi Lynette! Common courtesy, like common sense, is not so common anymore. Thanks for watching!
Guys I hate to break it to you but here it is..... With 80% of the folks are good hearted well meaning folks 10% are takers, and fence riders, 10% are pure evil gimmee gimmee gimmee pieces of whale dung. They are always right and expect you to clean up after them . With that last bunch it's a 4x4 or 44mag Smith and Wesson . Don't ever feel bad about calling the law. They will at least look into it and take names numbers and paper trail. Keep your head on a swivel and always carry protection wether it makes a loud bang or carburetor cleaner, wasp spray, bear spray, and lock up your valuables. I hear they're stealing anything they can get a 20$ bill out of from us RV folks, havnt had it happen to us yet. Stay safe and watch your 6
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Good message! We are new RVers but we PROMISE we will be respectful of nature. 🌲
Hi Amy! This is an example of the "ripple effect" in action! Thanks for watching!
I LOVED THIS, very informative, educational! It's All about Being Kind, and Respecting other People and their property, Thanks!
Well said! Thanks for watching!
great point, have to follow "leave no trace" when boondocking, all of the really good spots get closed due to these reasons, same applies for fishing locations also
Exactly!
Imagine all those extra RVs needing maintenance on their propane installations in a few short years and a large portion of them not getting it... Imagine standing next to one of those risk takers while they have an accident and the whole rig is going up one bad afternoon. I never again go anywhere near a camping a large camp ground, municipal rv parking areas or parking lots where the so called rv maintenance "experts" hang out and park their bombs on wheels within feet or my van.
I camp isolated and very much out of the way of everybody, preferably undetected and über stealthy.
I just don't want anybody snugging up on me and my van to potentially cause a safety hazard to me.
I don't care if people like to run some risks with propane setup and god speed to them and them rolling the dice but I like to view the launch of a "well maintained" rig into a geo synchronous orbit from quite a distance away please... I have seen 2 so far in 4 years of intensive travel and they are awesome to witness but only from a very comfortable distance to the point these launches become entertainment.
Oh and in my van I don use propane so I can preach against propane or butane, deeming it inherently unsafe apart from it being expensive to install and a hassle to use (hassle as in getting propane with all the different bottles, fittings, fill laws and regulations. Not to mention extra insurance.
Their is a silver lining with this sky rocketed rv sales is that in a few years when all the trendy folks get sick of the rv sell it and the prices drop through the floor. Parts and upgrade equipment will be cheap as dirt and available for those who need it...
Thanks for your insight!
Yup! I'm definitely going to be upgrading in about 2 years!
If you don't use propane or butane, what do you use to cook?
@@barefootincactus probably a fire or rocket stove.just need matches or fire rod.😏
Most of the time when people behave this way it's because they don't know any better. This video will help. Thanks for doing this.
Thanks for watching!
I don’t know how much targeted education is necessary to know better. The people that need this kind of education will be the only ones not listening to it.
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@@cubemissy Exactly. How much do you really need to know to clean up after yourself? It's thoughtless, self-centered, stupidity period. Edward Abbey had a name for species of human who do such things: Slobivius Americanus
Problem is the ones doing this aren't watching. Preaching to the choir here. You are very kind hearted by thinking people are don't know better... THEY DONT CARE.
You’re not whining at all. Every point you discussed was completely valid. Disgusting selfish people spoiling it for others 😡 Well done for having the guts to stand up against this behaviour 👍
Thank you Rosie!
Great video. Thank you for stating what so many are thinking collectively. Blessings & Be Safe
Thank you!
I haven’t watched a video in awhile but I really like you guys, I’ve missed your honesty and I continue to research for our own adventures. We just got a truck, so we are working on it. I have heard about the RV boom, it makes me sick how people behave. That would be difficult to see and even harder to keep my mouth shut.😂 you are definitely someone to learn from. Thanks so much!
Hi Nancy! Welcome back and thank you for the kind words! Don't let what we've found dissuade you from making the move. There are many beautiful places to see in this country.
I’m so glad you guys are doing this I have run into so many of the same things that you’re talking about. I’m very worried that they’re going to close off the dispersed camping. The biggest thing that we ran into besides kids on four wheelers is large groups in one spot that stay up and party all night.
Very well spoken and making great points without sounding like complaining! Bravo and thank you!
Thank you kindly!
Great video, thank-you for sharing!
Regarding the “pigs”, huge thank-you for helping!
My dad taught me, ALWAYS leave something better than the way you found it!!!!
Hi Steve! Thanks for doing your part!
So sad all these entitled people who dont care about anyone else. We are full timers as well American RV Nomads . Be safe and thank you for putting this out there hopefully some will be mindful.
We can all do our part and make a difference by educating people on proper RVing/Camping etiquette!
Thank you so much for pointing this out. As fellow boon dockers we also are seeing a rise in irresponsible use of public and federal lands. Educating, if they are willing to listen, is really the only way to effect change. Safe travels.
Thanks for watching Jerry!
Good information!! Thank you guys 🙏
Customs and courtesies go a long
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See ya out there! ✌️
Thank you for the public service announcement. Some people are so inconsiderate of others, and ruins the enjoyment for the majority. Your video was extremely well done, and we love you guys! --Tony & Laura
Hey Tony & Laura! Thank you! We appreciate the compliment!
So sad to see this happening. 😢 Years ago we used to go up there all the time in the summer and hardly ran into anyone. Thank you for picking up trash...we do the same thing (even carry a picker in our vehicle) can’t stand to see trash in our beautiful forests. Safe travels as you head East!
Hi Guys! Glad to hear from you. Yes, it is a sad state of affairs, but we hold out hope that things will get better.
So wonderful to have found you folks! I look forward to traveling along with you and learning all that I can, Safe Travels!
Awesome! Thank you! Welcome to our community!
I appreciate all you both do to help keep these sites/lands clean. Definitely not whining as far as I'm concerned. Bless you both.
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I just came upon your page “Camping Etiquette”. We have camped on the Coast in Northern California. Camp sites are NOT peaceful. We were blessed to find and buy an acre of property on a river (yes it will flood one day) with an older RV on it. It had a new septic, well and electric. It’s boondocking with all the amenities. Peaceful. Deer. Bear. Fox. Bald Eagles. Migrating birds. We are just retiring now (because of COVID) and couldn’t be happier. HOWEVER, you ARE right. Even in the “GUNKS” Minniwaska State Park, NY, which I have been coming to for over 40 years has recently been taken over by the state. It’s carry in, carry out. The trash is making me sick. Besides wayward masks, there’s been Burger King Cups, Dunkin Donuts cups, and all sorts of discarded food packages. This is a sensitive environmental area protected for it’s wildlife both animal and plant. People... PLEASE. Don’t trash on our Mother Earth. She will be there for you... if you are there for her. We plan on going out west within the next 2 years. I pray we can enjoy what’s left. Thanks for sharing and so sorry for all you are encountering. I guess I’m just getting old. Don’t want to be cranky, just want to have an earth worth wandering on. Be well.
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Thank you for the education and keeping us current. Real shame of folks doing illegal practices. RVers need to look out for all RVers.
Hi Marianne! So true! Thanks for watching.
Thank you for this video. We have been planning our transition slowly to full timing, but with the crazy amount of rv sales coupled with my lack of faith in society, I am nervous. I hope so many people see this. People need to step up as a whole and take care of what we all want to see and take part of. Thank you!
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Unfortunately a lot of people are falling into the ‘do and say whatever we want attitude’ without any recourse. This video really hit home with thoughts and feelings about the type of people who take our public lands for granted. It’s pretty easy to pack it out. Blows our mind why everyone doesn’t do this. Great video to post. You guys are awesome:-)
Thanks guys! We’re happy to see you back on the road!
Lyf Uninterrupted still in FL... just working on footage from last year FINALLY!!
👍. We’re headed that way unless the storms chase us away.
Thanks for cleaning up behind rude people.
I've carried trash bags for years, clean up behind people in state parks!
Yes, park service has been closing places for around a year..
Oh... people blocking off spots, without being there...I've removed chairs, tents, ropes..
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I'm a new viewer and this is the only video if yours i have watched so far. More tp come. I have been boondocking in the Mojave Desert since the 1950's. I too have seen an terrible increase of disgusting behavior
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My brother in law is retired forest service law enforcement and he has told horror stories. We’ve also encountered horrifying messes in dispersed campgrounds that are now closed off. At our favorite spot we had TWO black trash bags of Keystone Light beer cans, trash. I’ve camped all of my life and would never, ever think of leaving garbage behind! It’s so sad that people have no consideration for others!
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I live in Canada , and love to sleep in my trailer when there is a rain lightening storm , in the winter when it’s freezing and the wind blows my trailer is cozy warm and dry , I park close to my house that is up north and I can get my wifi signal it’s great to be alone and no questions or people , freeloading off me , that’s because no one knows I’m in the trailer and I have my door locked , it’s like having an extension to my home like a condo camping doesn’t mean you have to drive 100 miles and spend money on fuel I can just sit in my trailer and in my mind I can be anyplace I want to pretend I’m in all the best have an awesome day my friends :)
There is also a problem with people leaving fire pits with live coals in them. With all the problems with the fires everywhere the places that are not in a fire ban people using them should be aware how they leave these pits. Just because all you can see are ashes doesn’t mean that everything is cold. Thanks for sharing your video with us.
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This is so sad that this happens people of all ages are sooo lazy and disrespectful which only hurts all of us campers enjoying the forest,outdoors, seems like every generation is getting more and more disrespectful
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You are absolutely right about these issues. I’m 57 and although I do live in a home, I have always owned an RV. The majority dry camping, what is now called boon docking. We have always and instilled in our children to not only keep our area clean but do an area sweep left behind by others, going so far as to drag magnets to remove nails left behind by all the pallet burners. We will lose access to our beautiful lands if respect and etiquette doesn’t prevail. Thank you for using your channel to help point this out and bring it to light.
👍 Using a magnet to find nails/screws is a great idea! We've seen much of this as well but never thought to pick them up with a magnet.
Good video! Thumbs up! As a responsible ATV-er of 20 years on public lands and a camper for even longer, it pains me greatly to hear stories of abuses such as you recounted here. As always, the few can and do ruin it for the many. Like you, I carry plastic garbage bags with me to clean up after the slobs at the campsite as well as on the trail. Thank you for your part in keeping public lands pristine. Happy camping!
Thanks for doing your part!
After early retirement in 2012, my wife and I volunteered for the US Army Corps of Engineers at a campground in SC for the winter months. We were co-hosts with another couple. We had a 34' TT. Our biggest problems were: Barking dogs, loud music, noise, noisy children, belligerence, and too many vehicles in one campsite, to name a few. This is part of the reason I sold my RV. Sad.
Thanks for sharing your story, Bob!
Well we do a lot of boondocking. Yes you pack in packing out that's right. It's nice to hear someone else making a stand. We have a 275 gallon water tank on top of regular water tank on board. We have a extra generator and a bunch of extra stuff. We have been in some very nice places boondocking. They is a place called Sand Gulch in Colorado beautiful place. Then we went to penrose common another beautiful place to visit. We been boondocking for 7 years now and enjoy the places we have been. Truthfully we carry shovels,rakes and about 6 to 7 thousand dollars worth of tools to help the forest service out when we can. Now I'm disabled and in a wheelchair plus losing the use of my arms and hands it makes it harder for me to do anything. But at I still try to help keep things clean.
Sounds like you're doing the right things.
Thank you for sharing. It is so sad to hear these bad trends. Stay safe and continue to do this good deed of warning people. I appreciate it very much.
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I realized a while back as a full-time rvr now for over 3 years and counting that the best etiquette (for me) is to keep quiet and keep cleaning up to clear up trash and things I can do without speaking or lecturing the ones I know who did it. Too much trouble to deal with and most of this people who does this type of actions are looking for unnecessary trouble. I have enough trouble for a day and this is not one of them... Keep quite, do, and repeat. Great video and good lookin' out there. Safe travels!
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This has been an ongoing problem ever since I started Backpacking in the 80's. I ran an Outdoor Education Program, Summit Expedition out of Bass Lake, CA. We took campers in the Sierras for Backpacking Climbing Survival Experience. We alway taught pack in pack out, but we would alway pack out other Backpackers trash even 12 Thousand feet above Timber. It was always frustrating because we paid for permits for each group that went out into the forest, so we didn't want it to look bad on our outfit!! The only thing to do is pack out what you can of others waste on your campsite, or it will look like it was you. Maybe someday campers will grow up, and do their part!!🥰
Thanks Lois!
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We live in Flagstaff and what we see in our forests makes us sick. People that know better come up and abuse public lands as though nothing maters. Side by sides racing, shooting guns at night, out of control fires, camping behind 'No Motorized Vehicles' signs, trash everywhere, and ya roped off sections as if it were private property. You're not whining you're stating the sad truth. The problem here is those that do these things aren't watching videos such as this. Sad times in this country. Glad you made this.
Sorry to hear about this. We love Flag!
Thank you for bringing up these issues.
I was raised in the backpacking lifestyle and with the Boy Scouts.
And there have been many times when I have personally cleaned up a campsite after other people trash it.
Take only pictures, leave only footprints.
Thanks Jack!
I'm a camp host in Western North Carolina and have to agree with you 100%.
Hi Dennis! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this very candid video. My husband and I, just this morning, were
talking about how all videos focus on the unrealistically perfect side of full-time RVing. We started full timing in April and have definitely seen the issues that you mentioned. Right now we are camp hosting in Washington in a county park and we always have to remind campers to pick up their trash. We’re leaving end of September to travel and Boondock the rest of Washington and hopefully will have a good experience. Keep the faith👍🏼.
Hey CB! Thanks for stopping by. We are cautiously optimistic!
What a great reminder to those of us who love the umpaved, solitary locations. If we find trash and unsanitary stuff to try to clean up the refuse, if able to in a healthy way. And, we are just home from Yellowstone and Grand Teton. Who would guess there would be thousands of newbies there with us. Every campsite inside the parks was closed due to fire danger and Covid-19. All that meant was a camping space shortage in every small town around the parks. We slept on a side street near a hospital just to have a place to sleep for a night. Additionally, the state parks in every direction for 6 hours was also more full than normal. I had no ides what was causing the massive amount of campers, until your video with the information about new RV purchases.. I also think children home in September instead of at school due to Covid means more people traveling as a family. Great video!
Thanks for watching Moon Baby!
I love this video you posted, and I too have seen some of what you mentioned. My wife and I live in the northeast and I grew up camping and touring the New England states. Camping in many of them. About 98% of our camping is staying in state parks. They don't have the amenities you would find in a private camp setting and we love the beauty in the state parks so much more. We dry camp and when we do, I always feel I have to clean up the site while staying in it. I too have found trash left as well as ropes left hanging from trees. We were camping last week and when backing into our site, I came across a metal tent peg left right in line with my tire. Thankfully it was found while I stopped to check position I was aiming for. A trend we have also noticed in this area is transient people coming into the state parks. On our last night in this last trip, we saw a car come in late in the afternoon, They were camped just past out site and the odd thing I noticed was that they got a roaring fire going right away. Almost and hour after arriving, the car left and yet there wasn't a tent set up and only a couple things on there table. We went to bed around 10 and the fire was still really high and still no car or tent. When we woke in the morning, they were gone. This type of things make me nervous because we have two young girls, and we don't really know who is coming in. It's a bit different when we see other families around enjoying the outdoors. Anyway, please be safe in your travels!
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I grew up tent camping in Oak Creek Canyon, such a relief from the Phoenix heat. We encountered a few rude campers back then, of course, but for the most part it was great. We bought an RV this year, and haven't been able to use it much because of the virus. It's sad to see what people are doing out there these days.
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Sadly in this country we are beginning to lack of education and respect for others (...just wanted to be on the conservative side). You are right about everything you said but unfortunately we are dealing with some “animals” that don’t care about others or even got the audacity to become violent if you point out their wrongdoing. Just be safe out there and be careful who you’re dealing with, you’ve got a family and a lot to lose, they don’t! God bless you and thank you for pointing out those issues.🙏👍
Thank you!
Love your video. We are on our way to full timing. Already started our motto as leave the place better than what we came into. ✌️
Wonderful! Thanks for watching!
This is some good information. I have never been boondocking but would like to one day. I have gone camping for several years with the scouts and before we pull out we have always walked the area to make sure it is just as clean as when we arrived if not cleaner. So I was surprised hear that there are folk that don't clean up after themselves or think of the safety of their own children or others. Thanks again for the information.
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When you leave the forest pick everything up and then one more thing
Well said!
Will get worse when evictions and foreclosures open up..so sad! Glad i kept my paid off house. Also was disturbing to know that even though planet fitness are back open many wont let yoy shower. Hopefully things will get better. I intend to get back on the road but home in Sarasota is looking a lot better theses days. Stay safe and take care of yourselves,
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Wow great video, we are new to the RV world as a full timer. Thank you for the tips and I will take these with me as I travel around our beautiful country.
👍🤜🤛 Awesome! Thanks for tuning in. Safe travels!
Excellent video. I think a lot of concerned campers and RV'rs are seeing these problems escalate. Our favorite fishing sites in Idaho have seen a huge increase in the trash (everything you talked about) ATV's driving like Nascar, baby diapers, full bags of trash, broken bottles, cigarette butts, and more On our last trip someone abandoned a queen blow-up mattress???? We do the same, we carry in a 32 gallon trash bag to carry out 'other peoples' trash
Thanks for doing your part to make things better for everyone!
Excellent video. Remember to leave it better than you found it. Also, always pick up all the litter where you are whether it is yours or not. If a gate is closed reclose it after you open it to drive or walk through. Always put the fire out completely never leave a warm fire pit behind. Please, make sure the fire pit is cold before you leave. Please, don't burn a fire under tree branches or near a tree or brush. Don't spot light for deer at night with any kind of gun in your vehicle or during hunting season. Drive slow on the dirt roads in the forest. Pack out your trash and dirty diapers. No dumping period. That trash and mattress picture looked like a dumping ground. No wonder it was closed for use. If you see wildlife or cattle enjoy the view and don't touch them or feed them. If you have a concern for the wildlife call the game and fish dept. If we all are courteous and thoughtful we can all enjoy these places for a lifetime. Stay safe and remember to be kind to your neighbor even in the outdoors.
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I wish people could get caught red-handed dumping and get fined! Went to a state park this labor day weekend and spent 15 minutes cleaning out fire pit. Never have seen it so bad. Very upsetting 😞
Thanks for watching David. Too bad you had to experience this.
Thank you letting people know the problems that can be solved when people know. I have a small camper and have never left our state. We got it 2 yrs. Ago and we sure are taking it slow, for sure.
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Thank you for doing this video. I’m sure many newbies check out RUclips channels for advice so putting this video out there is important. I would like to see a coordinated effort by RUclips influencers to publish videos about what is happening - garbage and dumping waste in particular (gross!) - so that it drills home that “this is not ok.” Hope you’ll reach out to other channels you know to help make this happen. As fellow full timers, we need public land!
Hi Julie. We are developing a grass roots plan to work with USFS and NPS on ways to combat the problem. Thanks for watching!
So sad! I have always had a love for being outdoors but with covid it is driving those who really don't have a true appreciation for nature out and ruining it. Really frustrating.
We agree! Thanks for watching!
They were out prior to Covid, there are just more of them.
I’ll never understand ppls demented thinking when they leave behind their trash or human waste, ppl it’s not like we have another planet to go to once you’ve destroyed this one, like u need your head red!! Love ❤️ from 🇨🇦
Hi Mari! Thanks for watching!
Same issue here in Alberta Canada. Trash, cutting live trees, 911 services gone up. All campgrounds are flooded with people. We been camping for over 10 years. My wife and i are disgusted by this behavior. Great vid.
Hi Bailey. Sorry to hear about these issues in Canada. Pervasive no matter the location, apparently.
very well said!!! I liked that you gave the perspective of more RVers on the road than decades past. I would add that the lifestyle of these new RVers may be also different, to begin with. I stopped at Las Vegas for a couple of days and couldn't believe the invasion of people benefitting from lower hotel rates but taking everything for granted and violating all kinds of rules and social norms. It was really disgusting but it helped reflect upon the fact that this year has been too tough on many people and everyone is angry. Literally, Everyone has too much bottled up inside and they can't see other people as piers but as competitors to be taken down. I think they resorted back to primitive survivalism. Thank you for this call for good actions! Hopefully many will watch your video and agree that a good change is absolutely necessary.
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My husband and I full time now, but have been RVing and regular camping over about 40 years. Our rules are we leave the campsite in better or cleaner shape than we found it. Good policy to follow because we cannot control how others camp. Sorry to hear about how people are disposing of their waste. That is unforgivable.
Hi Patricia! Many thanks for doing your part!
We bought our own private spot because even regulated parks are crazy now. The park host we have made friends with have told us lots of long time rvers are buying permanent private places because of fees increases and how people are treating areas.
Such a sad side effect of what is supposed to be a great life adventure and learning for young families
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It only takes one person to ruin it for others. I drive a Semi and we have the same issues with trash,pee bottles, etc. It’s shameful 😡
Thank you for bringing this problem out publicly. I too have been so disturbed by the irresponsiblity of our fellow earth dwellers. It has actually stopped me from doing much more hiking or camping. We also bring garbage bags with us to pick up after others and gloves. SMH. Maybe all the RV youtubers should come together and do a week of videos on LNT, and pack it in/pack it out. Thanks for the video.
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If you think it's bad now... oh, just wait until SHTF! The entire "Ima go the woods an lif off da land!" We cannot FIX stupid OR just straight-up jackassery! Too, and I mean WAY TOO MANY people are 'getting out' of cities. Many have been booted or lost homes.... subbed! Much Love
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My heart goes out to you and the other responsible folks who are doing the right thing. Shame on those who are ruining these wonderful experiences for others.😒 I pray it gets better, & soon, or the few will destroy it for the many, like they do in so many other ways. SMH🙄 Sad state of affairs.
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watched the video & read some of the comments because i do some backpacking, same problem with trash in the back country;cigarette butts, half burned plastic bottles, mountain house bags, aluminum cans, and various other sorts of trash, thank you for bringing attention to a growing problem.
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We seasonal camp and I worked at a campground for 3 years. Once a camper and their 6 children had a water balloon fight. It took 2 of us to clean up the balloons all day. Other campers helped us. It’s bad for the environment and local wildlife. Just a note to have fun and take your mess with ya!