For df if you’re reading this… Bullet penetration is basically a multiplier on your damage bc your bullet hits them multiple times, so that’s a must for a damage build. For a tank build you want to have all your points in movement speed, body damage, max health and regen, then the rest in reload Also if you hold y while in the game it pulls up a chart of every tank in the game and how to get it Would love to see you play this game again, hope this helps❤
No you do not need all of that. Body damage is just a bit better than max health, so only use that. You don't need health regen, but it does help. Max out bullet damage, bullet penetration, and bullet speed (unless if you're playing a fast glass). Then get some reload and movement speed. Then you can get body damage and regen (if you want).
Oh gawd, that is an old game, pretty sure in fire fights you need bullet penetration in this game, which is why he gets crushed so much in fire fights. Also pretty sure bullets affect your momentum, so firing backwards lets you go even faster, makes body ramming tactics to level up quicker. If you're firing forwards at somebody running away they have a speed advantage due to that since you're firing at them but they are firing at you. It's where the rear flank is so fast since by default it shoots far more bullets behind itself than in front.
@@akuraitanen I believe bullets can multi-hit with penetration, which is where you get number of hits*damage, so a bullet with 3 penetration and 3 damage would do potentially 9 damage, which is more than a bullet with 6 damage and not penetration. In the end, penetration still remains vastly more important for the bullet vs. bullet aspect. At least if I remember this game correctly.
Yes. Penetration is bullet HEALTH essentially. It doesn't increment by 1's per say, as each thing in this game has health and damage. A shape will deal damage to a bullet that hits it, and if the bullet has more health than the damage of the shape (like pentagons do more than squares or triangles) the bullet will hit more than once.
No damage build works without penetration. It's a bad name. It essentially gives penetration although it's really the health that allows bullets to survive through multiple shapes or bullets. Hitting in the center of things does the most damage since it allows for the most ticks of damage
Streamliner is a decent class But the downside is if ur getting jumped ur cooked If ur facing a person one on one u will prob win because ur bullets are strong And another downside is that It lowers bullet damage,bullet penetration and hp so it’s really not the best class but definitely not the worst
Ahh the nostalgia I remember this game. A core memory of mine is when young me suggested the sandbox mode (and the name) to the developer's forum, and they actually added it. It felt amazing
If I remember correctly, the trapper can level up to have invisibility while not moving and does most of it's damage by running into people, basically making you a landmine.
The tanks that can go invisible are the Stalker, an Assassin Upgrade, the Landmine, a Smasher upgrade, and the Manager, an Overseer upgrade. The Manager isn’t really suited for those builds because its drones give its position away if killed, since they’ll respawn on their own. The Landmine has the best potential body damage out of the Invisible tanks, but it has a longer cloak time because it was really toxic when it didn’t. The Stalker can work for those builds too though.
Hey df in case you ever play this again, bullet penetration allows your bullets to hit multiple times which is why it felt like peope were doing a lot more damage than you
Haven’t seen this game in years, max bullet dmg body dmg, movement and health then pick the flank guard class, get as many guns pointing backwards for speed boost
Oh yes! Such a classic, commenting to let you know you gotta play more! (also if you want to use body damage you should not pick any class upgrades, just wait until you see a tank with no cannons, it takes a while to grind to though)
Penetration is important because the damage is based on ticks so low bullet speed and high penetration causes the most damage per bullet. Bullet pen also helps with dealing with enemy bullets. It's rather important.
I love how he will surely revive this near dead game.If DF you read Ur comments firstly upgrade bullet pen and damage fully and upgrade 5 points to bullet speed and also upgrade full movement speed and rest of points to which ever path you want.Then use the twin path to upgrade into a pentashot or spreadshot build this way you have to have the lessmost skill but an op build to make up for that skill. Use E key for aautoshoot so U don't have to press down on that mouse too much and that way is the basics. See you in the other video.
Anyone else miss stardew valley content from df? There was a new update recently full of fun goodies for content. Either way df never fails to entertain
if you leave your tank at default until you get the second tank change upgrade, you can get a secret tank that doesn't have bullets, its only body damage
Hey if u ever decude to pick this up again, min maxing id the best way to do this. Either go for glass cannon with max dng pen and bellet speed. Max reload, max pen and max bullet speed. Or go body dmg, max hp and hp regen and rest in bullet speed. Theres also a build that doesnt require using any bullets but u have to skip the first uograde until level 30 iirc. That tank is just max hp and regen and body dmg and movement speed.
I always loved going sniper line, once you go through sniper and ranger you get to stalker, and once you stand still you get invisible, go full body damage, move speed, HP and as much regen as possible and just sit invisible and ambush ram people
Bullet penetration is actually better than damage, id say a ratio of 60% penetration and 40% damage when allocating to firepower works well. Body ramming is also a widespread tactic and it seems you found that tactic during gameplay
It enjoys me and upsets me that DF played one of my IO favorite game but he still need alot of knowledge to be able to survive on that game (By doing a Good build)
When shoot you get pushed back in the opposite direction. So the ones who have one cannon in front and multiple in the back it pushes them at you quicker then you can run away
Shooting behind you and moving backwards makes you a lot faster than moving normally because of the recoil. That's why the tanks with multiple cannons on their back were a lot faster than you
If you shoot in the opposite direction of where you are going you move faster. That’s why the flank guards with 2 in the back move faster than you cos they are propelling themselves forward.
I know how to get auto fight in this game you just gotta choose the flank gun then auto three then auto five then boom you can just move around and then the auto five kids will just shoot for you so you basically don’t have to do anything so if there’s a large group of food you can easily destroy it
I was like number 1 on the leaderboard in this game when I was 9 every time I played. That really tells something about either me being way too smart or df being way too dumb
btw everyone (most of them) were faster than u because when u shoot behind yourself you get like boosted, so with either fast fire rate or heavy attacks you can go pretty fast
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Yeah... watching DF's decision making in this game just hurts my soul.
that's how it is in every game let's be honest
@@TrixterTheFemboy And yet we keep watching, either due to some weird masochistic tendencies or in some vain hope that this time might be different.
@@Vicerion17 bit o' both I think
If we wanted good choices we wouldn't be here
All of his videos do this to me
For df if you’re reading this…
Bullet penetration is basically a multiplier on your damage bc your bullet hits them multiple times, so that’s a must for a damage build.
For a tank build you want to have all your points in movement speed, body damage, max health and regen, then the rest in reload
Also if you hold y while in the game it pulls up a chart of every tank in the game and how to get it
Would love to see you play this game again, hope this helps❤
No you do not need all of that. Body damage is just a bit better than max health, so only use that. You don't need health regen, but it does help. Max out bullet damage, bullet penetration, and bullet speed (unless if you're playing a fast glass). Then get some reload and movement speed. Then you can get body damage and regen (if you want).
@@BBGOnYT why would you need to upgrade your bullets if you're going for a body damage build?
@@Royal_009 I think you meant a smasher build. A tank build has okay protection and max bullet damage.
@@BBGOnYT ohhh you're right thats mb
I never knew about the Y menu. Thank you.
Oh gawd, that is an old game, pretty sure in fire fights you need bullet penetration in this game, which is why he gets crushed so much in fire fights. Also pretty sure bullets affect your momentum, so firing backwards lets you go even faster, makes body ramming tactics to level up quicker. If you're firing forwards at somebody running away they have a speed advantage due to that since you're firing at them but they are firing at you. It's where the rear flank is so fast since by default it shoots far more bullets behind itself than in front.
I remember thinking that total damage is damage×penetration
@@akuraitanen I believe bullets can multi-hit with penetration, which is where you get number of hits*damage, so a bullet with 3 penetration and 3 damage would do potentially 9 damage, which is more than a bullet with 6 damage and not penetration. In the end, penetration still remains vastly more important for the bullet vs. bullet aspect. At least if I remember this game correctly.
@@DoomsdayR3sistance Correct; "penetration" is honestly a bad name for it, since each level gives +1 lives to your bullets.
Yes. Penetration is bullet HEALTH essentially. It doesn't increment by 1's per say, as each thing in this game has health and damage. A shape will deal damage to a bullet that hits it, and if the bullet has more health than the damage of the shape (like pentagons do more than squares or triangles) the bullet will hit more than once.
No damage build works without penetration. It's a bad name. It essentially gives penetration although it's really the health that allows bullets to survive through multiple shapes or bullets. Hitting in the center of things does the most damage since it allows for the most ticks of damage
If you keep going down the assassin path, you get the Slipstreamer, which has the fastest firerate in the game.
*Streamliner
Streamliner
But it sucks because I think it lowers bullet speed, damage, and penetration
It sucks though
Streamliner is a decent class
But the downside is if ur getting jumped ur cooked
If ur facing a person one on one u will prob win because ur bullets are strong
And another downside is that
It lowers bullet damage,bullet penetration and hp so it’s really not the best class but definitely not the worst
Ahh the nostalgia I remember this game. A core memory of mine is when young me suggested the sandbox mode (and the name) to the developer's forum, and they actually added it. It felt amazing
Holy shit, nice!
What’s its name
@@palmchristmastreesandbox mode
@@palmchristmastree diepio
Holy shit man. I spent SO much time on that sandbox just doing absolutelly nothing with a friend. Thank you so much for this
"our bullets are so slow"
*Picks movement speed instead of bullet speed
Tip: if you stay as a basic tank until level 30, you unlock a SECRET tank upgrade! ;)
chat, is this real?
@@santa_with_a_gun Yup, the smasher, which gets rid of all bullet stats, and instead lets you just ram people better
It is, in fact, real.
Yea it's the smasher it has no cannon and has only a ram ability
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I am getting PHYSICAL PAIN from the stats distribution
I SWEAR. AT THIS POINT THIS MUST BE ON PURPOSE BRUH, IT WOULD BE BETTER EVEN WITH RANDOM STAT DISTRIBUTION
I am getting PHYSICAL PLEASURE from ur PHYSICAL PAIN
Oh no, it’s Morgan Ellis all over again…
@@crablord8499 The diep io arc begin... 🙃
good thing it isn’t you playing the game then
If you press "y" you can see all the different tanks
I didn’t know that that’s useful
If I remember correctly, the trapper can level up to have invisibility while not moving and does most of it's damage by running into people, basically making you a landmine.
The tanks that can go invisible are the Stalker, an Assassin Upgrade, the Landmine, a Smasher upgrade, and the Manager, an Overseer upgrade.
The Manager isn’t really suited for those builds because its drones give its position away if killed, since they’ll respawn on their own. The Landmine has the best potential body damage out of the Invisible tanks, but it has a longer cloak time because it was really toxic when it didn’t. The Stalker can work for those builds too though.
Hey df in case you ever play this again, bullet penetration allows your bullets to hit multiple times which is why it felt like peope were doing a lot more damage than you
Started the video with the a solid strat, and ended with just attacking everything, classic DF
What a good ol classic game. Happy to see DF playing this
Fun Fact: if you skip the class picker enough times you unlock the secret class. The Melee Class that is just body damage and ramming into people XD
Great video
I played this game years ago and now seeing DF playing it makes my happy 😊
i used t be addicted to this game when it frst came out, i am glad to see that's still being played by people after all these years
It took the whole video for him to find out how good bullet pen is
Haven’t seen this game in years, max bullet dmg body dmg, movement and health then pick the flank guard class, get as many guns pointing backwards for speed boost
Oh yes! Such a classic, commenting to let you know you gotta play more!
(also if you want to use body damage you should not pick any class upgrades, just wait until you see a tank with no cannons, it takes a while to grind to though)
im screaming at my screen at the top of my lungs watching this man play one of my childhood gems
Ain’t no way, this was my favourite io game looool
DF not knowing what to do in a game is my favourite thing to watch. Thanks for not reading the tutorial.
00:45 bro predicted deadpool and wolverine
Penetration is important because the damage is based on ticks so low bullet speed and high penetration causes the most damage per bullet. Bullet pen also helps with dealing with enemy bullets. It's rather important.
I love how he will surely revive this near dead game.If DF you read Ur comments firstly upgrade bullet pen and damage fully and upgrade 5 points to bullet speed and also upgrade full movement speed and rest of points to which ever path you want.Then use the twin path to upgrade into a pentashot or spreadshot build this way you have to have the lessmost skill but an op build to make up for that skill. Use E key for aautoshoot so U don't have to press down on that mouse too much and that way is the basics. See you in the other video.
Anyone else miss stardew valley content from df? There was a new update recently full of fun goodies for content. Either way df never fails to entertain
His point usage makes me feel psychological pain
Tip: dome tanks can only be unlocked afetr more than 15 levels. Also you can see all tanks by holding Y.
2 tips, there's recoil when shooting and hold y to see all upgrades.
Once again, still not sure DF reads comments, but I'm requesting DF to try playing Rimworld or Project Zomboid
7:18 literally describes the sniper class in detail
Df my guy *bullet pen increases bullet hp* effectivly letting them deal there damage multiple times
This brings back memories, i used to play diep every day as a child lol
Please play more of this nostalgic game
I love how he's so calm
if you leave your tank at default until you get the second tank change upgrade, you can get a secret tank that doesn't have bullets, its only body damage
Please try max damage,penetration,reload with the shape with 3 pairs of cannons, gotten from the one with 2 pairs, each on one side
DF entirely ignoring Bullet Penetration with a bullet build makes me want to implode
Is the the old ballon td tack shooter?
Hey if u ever decude to pick this up again, min maxing id the best way to do this. Either go for glass cannon with max dng pen and bellet speed. Max reload, max pen and max bullet speed. Or go body dmg, max hp and hp regen and rest in bullet speed.
Theres also a build that doesnt require using any bullets but u have to skip the first uograde until level 30 iirc. That tank is just max hp and regen and body dmg and movement speed.
I always loved going sniper line, once you go through sniper and ranger you get to stalker,
and once you stand still you get invisible,
go full body damage, move speed, HP and as much regen as possible and just sit invisible and ambush ram people
if you are going invis rammer then might as well go landmine. Its faster, more hp, and more body damage.
@@YH4Y takes too long to go invis compared to stalker
Bullet penetration is actually better than damage, id say a ratio of 60% penetration and 40% damage when allocating to firepower works well.
Body ramming is also a widespread tactic and it seems you found that tactic during gameplay
Funnily enough I looked for a df diep video last week
Damn haven’t seen this game in a while does it still get updates? Back in the era when IO games came out
It enjoys me and upsets me that DF played one of my IO favorite game but he still need alot of knowledge to be able to survive on that game (By doing a Good build)
For the ramming builds, you shoot in the opposite direction for extra boost
Hi DF. I love .io games.
When shoot you get pushed back in the opposite direction. So the ones who have one cannon in front and multiple in the back it pushes them at you quicker then you can run away
Sniper -> overseer -> manager 👍
Shooting behind you and moving backwards makes you a lot faster than moving normally because of the recoil. That's why the tanks with multiple cannons on their back were a lot faster than you
If you shoot in the opposite direction of where you are going you move faster. That’s why the flank guards with 2 in the back move faster than you cos they are propelling themselves forward.
if you're going in one direction, face your bullets to the other direction to be able to go faster. also try clicking c, f and y
bullet penetration is actually very important if you’re using a bullet build
I think that the first time I’ve heard any bit of emotion in his voice is at 1:46
Dont be too afraid of the pink triangles all they do is protect mid which has the best shapes
"Idiet" good job df
PLS PLAY MORE OF THIS OMG
you, how dare you use my nostalgia against me!, love this game tho
I would recommend playing arras io, which is a fanmade version of diep io.
if you ignore the first evolution, you get a secret evolution at lvl 30
You either wanna be a glass cannon or a complete tank. No in between.
I know how to get auto fight in this game you just gotta choose the flank gun then auto three then auto five then boom you can just move around and then the auto five kids will just shoot for you so you basically don’t have to do anything so if there’s a large group of food you can easily destroy it
I was like number 1 on the leaderboard in this game when I was 9 every time I played. That really tells something about either me being way too smart or df being way too dumb
Or it might be something to do with IO games not actually being multiplayer.
DF are you gunna play stardew valley 1.6 update?
DF, if you wait till level thirty to level up, you'll get the smasher
what is the name of the game?
69🗿
i love your videos DF
A true OG game
Corrupt hit 100k subs to day, the best is youtuber
DF, this is game is the definition of a MINMAXing game, if you wanna try again
Can you play blox fruit? I wanna see a series of you slowly getting good and then smash everyone in pvp
You should try streamliner next it’s really good
If you ignore the first tank type upgrade you can become a body slammer
It's a good day when you post🎉
They’re faster because they shoot and it boost’s yourself faster away!
It’s sad how he doesn’t know what a pentagon is
More we NEED MORE
I remember this game i still have it but its dead
I would recommend you too play maple rush its fun
I.... Want....MORE!!!
if you ignore the first evolution option you get more later
Omg I was in that game with you!
what was the name of the game?
dude when ur hunter mpress right click (also do overseer to overlord ov erlor d has op drones and right click to repell thgem)
My fav .io game ever
Used to play this with my buds in computer lab
that was a necromancer. I've played it a few times and its fun.
Happy Friday!
Should have done flank then the quad then the octo for your playstyle
This game triggers stuff in me when you spend so much time and then someone kills you I get so mad idk how you doit
*For every like this comment gets, DF gets 1,000 power in Rise of Kingdoms*
Edit: y’all fell for the cringe bait so hard 😭
Cringe af
@@Sporxzyou are cringe because I have 7838838348834738474754374784 power in rise of kingdoms🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
cringe af
Cringe af
Not “cringe af”😂
the way u get the build tbat destroys u u have to go flank path
You coulda killed Evil Clown tbh, while he was slightly higher power, he also only had like half hp.
btw everyone (most of them) were faster than u because when u shoot behind yourself you get like boosted, so with either fast fire rate or heavy attacks you can go pretty fast
Their is an evolution map that tells what comes after what
I haven't seen this game in a while.
Really cool seeing the 999999999 power as described on the title... like why click bait?
Danny Funton I hope you're well
There is a button that lets you see the evolution tree, I think it's "L"
I haven't heard that name in years...