Wow, having a panic attack after getting an appropriate reaction from her husband to her confession of cheating and yet still not feeling guilty about it... I feel so bad...
@@svenolsen8184 there are good people in this world Do you believe that bad people live in this world If so There must be good people also And every woman is not like that Some women cheat like some men cheat That doesn't mean everyone is a cheater
So she cheated, hid it for years. Made him shake hands, made him watch them dance, felt no remorse up until she met a near divorce response. Yet he stays. Its almost as if he likes to be in pain. Its beyond me to stay with such a person
If I was him, the moment she makes me shake his hand, I’mma shake her hand as well and give her a ‘present’ with divorce papers in. I don’t care if it ruins her day, she ruined his day. She better be lucky I didn’t give it to her on Valentine’s Day, our anniversary, her birthday or on Christmas Day.
@@iamdragonkrys I don't think she doesn't care for him. I think the mind games of her mother (if her dad is anything to go by) got to her. Like pre marriage and post marriage are seperate lives entirely and anybody sees it like that. I think she really, absolutely believed that she didn't something worng in THIS life, her married life. That is major league compartementalisation, I agree, but I am not angry but concerned. Because that kind of thinking shows a lot of mental issues underneath that. OOPs reaction plus her own families (siste's and father's) reaction have shown her that what she perceives as normal and what society deems normal differ from one another. She needs to come to term with the fact, that the values instilled in her by her own mother are wrong on a very fundamental level. That leads to such a response like a break down. This woman needs a lot of psychological help from a professional. Still, I don't think that staying in that marriage is a good thing for him. Because relearning a whole world view will be taxing on her. She will not be a good or even mediocre partner for a very long time. Plus the mother stays in the picture.... I am not sure we have heard the end of this...
Dude is an idiot. Has a child for a wife that has a mental breakdown anytime she has to face consequences for her actions and ends up thinking that getting divorce papers makes him the bad guy. People like this won't listen to reason and will continue to stay with people that make them miserable so I say make fun of them and let them stay miserable
Some people dont have self respect OP kept goin round and round when he know that the trust is gone and if u dont have trust u dont have a healthy marriage.
THIS.......good lord man more fish in the see ya know? Tho from the sound of things the second he was gone that chick would have punched her own ticket. yeeeeeesh
@@TadaHrdYou can forgive someone without putting yourself in a position to be betrayed again. If she was willing to cheat once, she'll do it again. He should've dumped the wh0re at the wedding when he found out and she still belittled him and danced with the dude
OP is far too nice. She cheated on him and yet he is made to feel bad when he did something? This is not going to end well. I wish OP the best but man.
This is going to sound harsh but OP is not “too nice” he is a doormat and have no self respect, being nice doesn’t mean people can treat you like shit and say oopsie doopsie and move on with their life,OP’s wife is a master of manipulation that’s why and her mom is prolly like that as well
@sneakydrag4075 op forgave her once is an act of kindness. She did get manipulated into thinking that what she did to him was ok since there's no vows has been made yet and she's been desperate to win him back again. Forgive her twice, thrice etc. is an act of a doormat.
This is ridiculous she has the audacity to say that it’s okay and yeah, she Did say sorry 1000 times but no. Just no. Divorce her asap. It’s for your own good.
what matters is that he's happy and that she isn't lying anymore. but it would be hard to tell if she wasn't lying. let's hope that they could grow from it, or maybe just end the relationship on good terms
@@grqe.odyssey Happiness build on a lie. He should have looked at her as a new person. And he knew that that person cheated on her bf years ago. How can you see that as nothing else but a red flag together with the rest of her behaviour at the wedding and later.
OP is so whipped and he doesnt even realize it. The sudden anxiety attacks, the lovebombing, the lack of remorse, it all stinks to high heaven. Sounds like his wife is the manipulative one tbh.
I was thinking that too. Especially when the last panic attack resulted in him moving back home. She played it perfectly. She was never sorry, just sorry she had to admit it and was going to lose her good life because of it. TBH OP's father in law sounded just as manipulated, they way he was trying to justify his daughter's way of thinking, like mother like daughter.
Yup. She waited until the last possible moment to tell him. She was expecting an explosion during her sisters wedding and used the wedding as an opportunity to turn it around on him and gaslight the heck out of him. The waterworks and panic attacks only started when she realized he wasn’t falling for her gaslighting campaign. That's not the behavior of someone who truly thinks he wouldn't care about what happened before their marriage. She wasn't surprised at all about how angry he was (though she pretended to be), only that it took more effort than she expected to gaslight him into compliance.
They’re just sitting on a ticking time bomb. She is using her panic attacks and tears to manipulate him into forgiving her and he is using her guilt to control her. Love, trust and respect has gone out of the window in this marriage.
I completely agree. Offloading responsibility to her "view of marriage instilled by her mother" and her lack of empathy in the beginning are the biggest red flags i have seen.
@@ricoarmstrong7440 absolutely spot on she isn’t distraught cause she cheated she is in this state cause she doesn’t want divorce as her family has this rosy picture of marriages where they don’t get divorced and she doesn’t want to be the first one to taint that rosy frame…
@@SudershanK Yeah definetly. Especially when she has that first panic attack. It only comes once she realises that consequences are coming her way. Not because she hurt her husband. More concerned with her own image instead of the people that love her ...
I don't understand why you would come out as manipulative about the paperwork. That's a reasonable point to have. If we can't uphold our efforts then this is the outcome. That's not manipulative.
@@hunterblane610 ok but the video even said it was a temporary option. It wasn't a forever thing. He needed to know that he could trust her. I mean she is the one who betrayed his trust and then dismissed him about it. I mean if it had been me I'd have filled them out and walked away.
@@carrottop7506 The thing is, its easy to say something is temporary, but something like that can go from temporary to indefinite at the drop of a hat.
@@hunterblane610 yeah but that's kinda the point. She betrayed him and has to earn his trust again. This is him saying if she can't then this is the outcome. Because if she can't prove he can trust her than the only option is divorce.
See, what bothers me is that she KNEW it was wrong the whole time or she would have told him way earlier. She hid it from EVERYBODY. She wasn't even the reason her own sister found out. She's using this excuse that "I thought it was fine because we weren't married" but she clearly knew it was terrible the whole time. She knew back then it would hurt him, but she told herself it was fine to do that to him because they weren't married yet. And what that tells me is that she is fine hurting others as long as she has an excuse for it.
And that fact she could have a “panic attack” and have op running in circles for her, shows she has dude wrapped around her finger. Anything that she does to OP he deserves.
Exactly what I was thinking! And the therapist had a bad take on the matter too. Even if what he did was manipulative, this woman was manipulative as heck before everything even started! And she deserved to have that sword of Democles hanging over her head when she put OP through all that pain and suffering without remorse. She didn't care or see it as a big deal until she realized it would actually affect her too in the long run. And her being curled up in mommy's lap when he showed up, but HE was the one who was childish??
This poor guy. Gets cheated on, have the affair partner paraded in front of him, is put in the position of comforting the cheater, and still doesn’t realize that he’s too good for her. I can only hope he develops some self worth.
I like how he feels like a monster ( just as she intended so he'd keep his mouth shut) by the end of it. Now she will be the victim , her cheating will be not as bad in her mind , and she'll go back to being queen of victim land.
@@PentopodcastBecause she threw herself into a tizzy on purpose and worked herself up as much as humanly possible to try and delay the inevitable. It's literally a tactic toddlers use and is kind of sad that her as a grown adult did it. Not once but twice
Panic attacks can't be controlled, I'm NOT saying she's in the right. Just that no one can control emotions let alone panic attack, she truly thought it wasn't a big deal now is realizing her mistakes full force. It's her and the mothers mind set that's wrong, as she got older she should have grew out of it. Hopefully if she dates again she'll be honest this time Op should have left right after hearing the news.
@@maryjane4432 Yeah you dont just dance with another man while being married. You normally have a important reason like the dancepartner being family or someone far removed from being a potential romantic partner.
“Coming across as manipulative” by handing potential divorce papers, only to then be manipulated into staying by her side because of a panic attack and then tearing up the papers and just taking her back because she was so emotionally manipulative- this man deserves so much better. I hope they do get divorced and that woman has to live with the consequences of her actions
I'd probably continue with "You destroyed what we could have been, what we could have had and you also destroyed our past, every good memory I had of us is now tainted by this betrayal." And there's no way I could hold her and comfort her during her "breakdown".
@@Kurt-ic5vu She was raised with poor values. As soon as she understood that what she did was morally wrong, she was willing to do anything to regain his trust.
@@bazookaward3859 Oh wow, now I see why you commented on another thread that what OP did at the end with the divorce papers was manipulation, you actually wanted her to continue lying. Of course. It all makes sense now. This isn’t what healthy relationships look like dude.
@@jaredmartinez7271 lol. I guess we watch the same videos. Omission of information is not the same thing as lying. Here is something you should know. You don't need to tell you spouse everything. Here is an extreme example. You killed some in the past who tried to murder you. If you don't tell your future/current spouse about it due to the trauma it left you with. That doesn't make you are liar. This information if reveled could effect your relationship so you keep it to yourself. Now if you spouse ask you if you ever killed someone and you said NO. Then that would make you a liar.
An ER visit for a panic attack? Excuse me wth. I had a panic attack so bad for 12 hours that my chest hurt the entire time. I not once thought i should go to the ER- Is it normal to go the ER for a panic attack?????
My brother went to the ER because he thought he was having a heart attack. But it turned out to be a panic attack. Since then, I've known a few people who have ended up in the ER for the same reason.
Ik it feels like your dying- but if i asked to go to the ER for every panic attack ive had, i would be in severe medical debt 😰 Also my family wouldnt take me neither would the school call for me to be taken
Show she cheated. She knew what she did was wrong. Didn't tell him until she thought she was going to get caught. Than gas lights him, calling him a child. What I get from that is she's not innocent in any way shape or form. She knows what she doing is wrong and does it anyway. She doesn't love him definitely doesn't respect him. Don't know what he does, but she's afraid of losing that comfort. Stay away from her she is not meant to be married. Also stay away from her sisters. They probably carry the same way of thinking. Considering that nobody told him and she's marrying her ex.
At the beginning when she did cheat she didn't think it was something bad(which of course is a bad thing, but in her point of view it wasn't). Also I'm not protecting or excusing her behaviour just explaining that she didn't realise it was wrong at the time of cheating
Maybe her dad told the truth about that! The way her mom said to her when she’s young affect her logical thought about before/after marriage. I wouldn’t understand those kind of thoughts first; however, I’d had a male friend that think just as OP’s wife. All of our mutual friends had a big fight against his POV. In the end, we all agreed to cut tie with him for goods. In fact, what hurt OP most is she cheated and hummiliated him by introducing/shaking hand/dancing… There’s no excuses for those things!
@@user-nj4zv6qo1y that’s completely illogical. She she didn’t think it was wrong, she wouldn’t have hid it. Only telling him when she had to (because she feared being exposed by someone else) shows she knew it was wrong. She is manipulating and gaslighting.
@@FaizatheTempestnigga yes. What type of question is that. A grown ass adult being manipulated to this degree is just terrible, and looking from the outside in, weak.
@@FaizatheTempest Yes of course. 💀Woman let themselves be manipuLated all the time too which is bad. But when a man is getting manipulated we hear things like what you said.
even if your parents tell you that its okay to cheat before the marriage because then it won't count one should still have enough brain cells to know that this isn't right. like does she not have any friends or has she never seen a movie? everyone knows cheating is bad I cant believe someone can be this dumb.
….once a cheater always a cheater. I’ve never known of someone to stop. If she’s don’t it once, and it was so little a problem, she will absolutely do it again.
“I feel like a monster”💀 1. The guy is a doormat 2. Some people dont have self respect OP was cheated on shake the guys hand watched her dance with her and still forgive 3. Cheating should never be forgiven that’s why loyalty is greater than love because love is just a feeling loyalty is the act (actions speak louder than words)
Cheating isn’t a mistake it’s a god dam choice. Nomatter how she was raised. It sounds like she was raised to cheat but that doesn’t excuse it by any means
I think, there are two cases where it might be a mistake. Cheating while being really really drunk and being in a really bad situation that moment. And maybe when the affair partners are exes and have for example lost their child and became closer due to that (licking each other wounds). I myself don’t think that it would make the cheating in any way right and excusable, but only logically understandable. And it would still be completely understandable if the other partner left them after that
@@stonedsquidgameing9761I didn’t say it was excusable. I only said these are situations it can be seen as mistakes and only when they immediately go clean. Only then can it be seen as a mistake, but they still should be ready if the partner would understandably leave them
I think he has a lot of respect for himself, he was ready to leave the relationship but is is really trying to understand her. What she was taught about love and marriage had a really big impact. If she understood what she was doing then yeah leave but I think this is in a gray area that I can see him actually work on it and not be losing any respect on himself.
@@Happy-dl4qt whatever she was taught, Instinctively or, not but she knew that it was wrong, otherwise she wouldn't have hid it for 4 years. And told her husband only when met with the possibility of getting caught. So, the things she had pulled even after knowing it was wrong on her part is what makes her actions horrible. And whatever excuse she, her husband or, you give me wouldn't change my mind.
I absolutely cant wrap my head around the wifes actions. From cheating, to introducing her husband to the guy, to becoming the victim of this all...its gross. I dont know if you can move on from this honestly. Im thankful she was honest to her parents and didnt try to lie and make him the bad guy. This is just all around sad. He wants to forget it happened so bad, to go to the time before he knew, but he cant. I hope they all get therapy and find happiness.
Captain doormat strikes again. You said that everytime you asked yourself the question “would you have stayed” and the answer was no, grow a sack and leave.
Honestly the best thing that could possibly happen for him is to get cheated on a second time. Too pathetic and weak to actually divorce her, and more pathetic still to allow the marriage counselor to tell him that he was being manipulative and also believe it too. Whenever you have to wonder about the fucked up state of the world you have to remember that his vote is equal to yours.
ok you spend 5 yrs in something but as something happens you get a huge huge twist and the thing you spend 5 yrs on manipulatives you so much you are stuck you dont call that weak you call that being controlled and the fact you call him pathetic. such stupidity
Two details there: she says she thought it was fine to do it but hid it for YEARS nonetheless, only revealing at the imminent moment she'd get "caught" (in quotes because that's her word used) Also she mentioned they weren't in a good spot and needed some FUN when she did it. Wait for the next moment she feels that the relationship went cold, she'll immediately do it again and blame it on the rough patch they're in AGAIN
And let’s not forget - their entire relationship is just five years! This all just happened - the cheating, the lying, manipulation, the gaslighting - is over a very short period of time. She’s making it out to seem like this all happened 20 years ago. It did not. She danced and flirted with a guy in front of her husband, whom she just slept with less than four years ago. That is not years ago. She is a classic Gaslighter, possibly a narcissist, and all of this is tantamount to emotional abuse. He needs to get away from her yesterday.
Bro, you need to just leave her. She cheated on you didn’t tell you for three years only told you when she thought she would get caught. Had the balls to introduce you to him and dance with him in front of you. It sounds like she’s upset and sad because her parents explained that you probably want a divorce and now she’s feeling all sympathetic because she wants to stay married because like you said married planet
You have to understand. She genuinely didn't think she cheated. Until she got married. She didn't believe a relationship wasn't serious and she behaved like she was single. When the marriage happened she put that mindset behind her and focused on her marriage. Is she still an Idiot? 100%
This gentleman needs to go to the channel, strong successful male, and get a hard dose of reality. This won’t be the first time or the last time she cheats. He should’ve dumped her ass as soon as he found out. And at the wedding she should’ve turned down the dance out of respect for her husband.
I mean, if you want to work on things and you’re doing it and she does everything you asked her for, then it really is weird to get a lawyer and have divorce papers ready “ just in case “ XD you either work through it or break things off. But make your decision, don’t swing from one to another. You both are a mess.
And he was trying to work it out but think about his mental state, how was he ever going to trust her again, once u break a person's trust, that person won't be able to trust you ever, this marriage is a dead end because at any point they argue or he sees her being friendly with someone else, the only thing that's going to come to his mind is she cheating and, so for his own sake he made divorce papers ready what's wrong with that, she gets panic attacks right on time and he can't even get a divorce paper
There are many women who unfortunately have the same low level respect and self-esteem that OP has for themselves and continue on with their cheating spouses/partners. A lot of people don’t value themselves enough. It’s both genders tbh.
If the roles were reversed, there would also be a comment in the comment section going that "if the wife had cheated, the husband would emediately leave'
I highly respect OP and slightly commend the wife, OP for being considerate and trying to fix the marriage and not letting the whole thing go, and the wife because she actually realized her mistake (even though it was late most of the women like this don’t) and doing everything in her power to explain why she was wrong and contributing to fixing their bond, divorce isn’t that easy especially in a case like this
It’s as if the bro is a masochist. Once a cheater - always a cheater, who doesn’t know that haha. And he feels guilty about her being sad about the divorce papers! Like, what was she expecting
Bro is tied down by his wife playing victim and keeps getting guilt tripped too much to realize how fucked up she is and his situation is. The health in the marriage is shit, the trust is long gone, and in the end he still found a way to perceive himself as the one in the wrong, the 'monster.' Horrible ending, I presume we'll hear another update from him in 1-2 years.
I don't think him giving her divorce papers was manipulative. It told her that she had 2 options do the things needed to be better or leave the marriage. Boundaries aren't shit if there aren't clear consequences for breaking them.
He should divorce her and then decide if she deserves a second chance. Their entire marriage was based on a lie anyway so they were never really married. He said himself that he would have never married her or made those vows if he knew she’d cheated, so their marriage is literally based on a lie. Immediately divorce because the marriage is a farce regardless and always has been. Then decide if she deserves another chance at repairing the relationship.
She is stupidly blind. Honestly, not to get into your personal life but she has no touch with reality and needs to go and find that you cannot just cheat on your husband and brush it off as a joke. Divorce is probably the best solution.
OP is way too nice to her. She doesn't deserve the chance to reconcile at all imo. It's disgusting that she cheated, but the fact that she doesn't seem to feel guilty about it?? Absolutely revolting. I don't understand OP at all. How can he see her and not think about her betrayal? And fear that she'll do it again? Especially now that she has been given a second chance. I really really really don't get it.
16:15 The fact that he thought that was a manipulation tactic in retrospect, when it was just him reinforcing his position and reminding her of the potential consequences the BOTH agreed upon, is mind boggling. He’s dealing with a person he doesn’t know anymore. He had every right to do that to her for HIS sake, not hers. The therapist probably told him it was manipulative, which it is not. Reestablishing HEALTHY boundaries is not manipulation, especially when you’re dealing with a lying cheater. I’ve seen this happen to women too, and they’d be totally in the right if they did what OP did to their partners. Man, he should’ve just divorced her to begin with. Never trust a cheater, never reason, negotiate, or bargain with them, and learn to love/respect yourself.
It's very easy to tell she is lying about not knowing it's cheating if not married 1. Why was it secret until now? You hid because you knew it was cheating, you only said something at the wedding for fear of being caught, and you tried to let him know at the event so there wouldn't be a scene and you wouldn't have to address it fully, giving you time to make up some nonsense. 2. If cheating before being married isn't cheating, I'd like to see her entertainment history. How many songs? Movies? TV shows? Books? Documentary? Etc specifically talk about heartbreak while dating? This isn't complicated most liars show the same pattern.
"i have given her hell" boy, the way youve cared for her, and you still blame yourself. she wouldve never cheated on you if she loved you. have some self respect man
@@Me-852 Look some people can forgive. You can't but others can. He decided he didn't want his marriage to end and now has his wife eating out of his hand to not loose him. You see the situation as a loss because he chose to forgive his wife's betrayal. Be as judgement as you want. However the guys' life belongs to him and he should live it how he wants. He is happy with his decision and that is all that matter in this situation.
Everyone is saying the op should have just divorced her and had some self respect. It’s not that easy though. He loves her and has a seemingly perfect marriage until this. It’s not easy to just walk away from someone you love like that. It sucks what he went through and I understand why he was so hesitant
The woman is manipulating Op constantly. She doesn’t feel bad at all. Op should file for divorce and get on with his life and find a wife who respects him
Honestly op should have just divorced, the wife seems a little manipulative and though that may be her mothers fault she is her own person. All her anxiety attacks that sent her to the ER where at horrible times and I feel that was making the op feel bad there for he was being guilt tripped weather it was intentional or not.
“I have put her through hell” Bro. She put YOU through hell and then BLAMED YOU FOR BEING UPSET. don’t discard those divorce papers… you’re gonna need them.
The wife uses marriage as a clutch the entire time like bro at this point shes convincing him to stay in this marriage as she didn’t realize or whatever but you still did it and can’t just continue using marriage against him
Wasn't mentioned but when she initially opened the floor for any questions, he didn't ask if there was anyone ELSE besides the one guy. That would be one of my first questions.
She didn’t respect him then and I’m fairly sure she doesn’t now 😂. I’m pretty sure everything he wrote in the story is true minus the very LAST statement.
OP makes my blood boil. How can you go back to a manipulative cheater like her??? She NEVER felt guilty for cheating on him, she didn’t even think about telling him and when she did she played the victim. Everytime OP had a glimpse of reasoning and thought abt ending it she manipulated him with having a panic attack and also manipulated him by having intercourse with him during dates. WHY WHY WHY would you go back to someone like that? It’s so disgusting!!! There are a million better women on the planet, why stay with her????
That’s not how proper adjudication works. to be solely judged on who you are now requires knowing who you used to be and cross comparing to see if there’s been any real change and to see if the bad you’ve done outweighs the good you’ve done.
Bro a cheater once is a cheater forever, u will be called cuckoled and nothing more, she was yours and she choose to give herself to someone else, being understanding jn this case is a bullshit idea, she will and i mind you she will sleep with that person or someone else again, and u will have your heart broken twice by the same person, u r a fool to not divorce her
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Wow, having a panic attack after getting an appropriate reaction from her husband to her confession of cheating and yet still not feeling guilty about it... I feel so bad...
It’s called gaslighting
@@kozuet9537 yeah
I have a lot of experience with this kind of women
@@mrbro02 yeah I would dip and post about her affair and op is cuckold and he knows that
@@mrbro02this kind of women? Are you saying this is a type and there's another breed untainted by the evils of modernity?
@@svenolsen8184 there are good people in this world
Do you believe that bad people live in this world
If so
There must be good people also
And every woman is not like that
Some women cheat like some men cheat
That doesn't mean everyone is a cheater
I'm addicted to these reddit stories
Same they are so entertaining
Me too
They make me lose faith in humanity a lil ngl
real.
@@SoulieCanoliemy exact situation
So she cheated, hid it for years. Made him shake hands, made him watch them dance, felt no remorse up until she met a near divorce response. Yet he stays.
Its almost as if he likes to be in pain. Its beyond me to stay with such a person
She's so disrespectful 😮. She doesn't care about her husband 😢. She made me so angry 😡😡😡💢💢💢
I get it, I can sympathize with liking the emotional pain
This is so f’d up
If I was him, the moment she makes me shake his hand, I’mma shake her hand as well and give her a ‘present’ with divorce papers in. I don’t care if it ruins her day, she ruined his day. She better be lucky I didn’t give it to her on Valentine’s Day, our anniversary, her birthday or on Christmas Day.
@@iamdragonkrys I don't think she doesn't care for him. I think the mind games of her mother (if her dad is anything to go by) got to her. Like pre marriage and post marriage are seperate lives entirely and anybody sees it like that. I think she really, absolutely believed that she didn't something worng in THIS life, her married life. That is major league compartementalisation, I agree, but I am not angry but concerned. Because that kind of thinking shows a lot of mental issues underneath that.
OOPs reaction plus her own families (siste's and father's) reaction have shown her that what she perceives as normal and what society deems normal differ from one another. She needs to come to term with the fact, that the values instilled in her by her own mother are wrong on a very fundamental level. That leads to such a response like a break down.
This woman needs a lot of psychological help from a professional.
Still, I don't think that staying in that marriage is a good thing for him. Because relearning a whole world view will be taxing on her. She will not be a good or even mediocre partner for a very long time. Plus the mother stays in the picture....
I am not sure we have heard the end of this...
Should have divorced her asap
Dude is an idiot. Has a child for a wife that has a mental breakdown anytime she has to face consequences for her actions and ends up thinking that getting divorce papers makes him the bad guy.
People like this won't listen to reason and will continue to stay with people that make them miserable so I say make fun of them and let them stay miserable
Thats very counter productive. Its much easier to repair a wounded relationship than it is to build an enourmous one from nothing.
Yo im only 4mins in and im just wanna say this dude is dumb af. She clearly give zero fucks bout you.
I would have divorced her the millisecond she told me that
I agree
Some people dont have self respect OP kept goin round and round when he know that the trust is gone and if u dont have trust u dont have a healthy marriage.
THIS.......good lord man more fish in the see ya know? Tho from the sound of things the second he was gone that chick would have punched her own ticket. yeeeeeesh
@@ZombieLogic101nope, the whole "panic attack" thing was a manipulation.
Must not have been cheated on before.
What if he forgives her, you know, like Jesus?
@@TadaHrdYou can forgive someone without putting yourself in a position to be betrayed again. If she was willing to cheat once, she'll do it again. He should've dumped the wh0re at the wedding when he found out and she still belittled him and danced with the dude
the audacity she has to expect him to just relax..
Edit : can we make it to 3k?? 😭💗
Fr fr what was she thinking
Her mom had basically ingrained into her that it was normal to cheat before marriage.
@@hunterblane610doesn’t mean his wife isn’t is the wrong as well
@@ExpertTaxEvaderYes exactly!
The fact that HE is saying HE put HER through he'll! Jesus. How much did she pay that therapist to help her gaslight him?!!?
OP is far too nice. She cheated on him and yet he is made to feel bad when he did something?
This is not going to end well.
I wish OP the best but man.
This is going to sound harsh but OP is not “too nice” he is a doormat and have no self respect, being nice doesn’t mean people can treat you like shit and say oopsie doopsie and move on with their life,OP’s wife is a master of manipulation that’s why and her mom is prolly like that as well
@sneakydrag4075 op forgave her once is an act of kindness. She did get manipulated into thinking that what she did to him was ok since there's no vows has been made yet and she's been desperate to win him back again. Forgive her twice, thrice etc. is an act of a doormat.
@sneakydrag4075 i think he meant at least he dident rearange his face whit his fist😅
And the fact that he said at the end that he is not Cuckold was funny that hes so blind to see what he was made into
Nah OP is dumb
This is ridiculous she has the audacity to say that it’s okay and yeah, she Did say sorry 1000 times but no. Just no. Divorce her asap. It’s for your own good.
I think the husband is on the spectrum
what matters is that he's happy and that she isn't lying anymore. but it would be hard to tell if she wasn't lying. let's hope that they could grow from it, or maybe just end the relationship on good terms
or bad terms
@@grqe.odysseyDegrading yourself is immoral. Killing yourself is immoral. Cutting yourself is immoral. Do not make excuses for it.
@@grqe.odyssey Happiness build on a lie. He should have looked at her as a new person. And he knew that that person cheated on her bf years ago. How can you see that as nothing else but a red flag together with the rest of her behaviour at the wedding and later.
OP is so whipped and he doesnt even realize it. The sudden anxiety attacks, the lovebombing, the lack of remorse, it all stinks to high heaven. Sounds like his wife is the manipulative one tbh.
Yeah, he was a doormat. Completely pathetic.
I was thinking that too. Especially when the last panic attack resulted in him moving back home. She played it perfectly. She was never sorry, just sorry she had to admit it and was going to lose her good life because of it. TBH OP's father in law sounded just as manipulated, they way he was trying to justify his daughter's way of thinking, like mother like daughter.
@@jessicabittle5775 Guarantee the whole talk with the FIL was MILs idea
sounds like a lack of a real masculine figure while growing up if you ask me
Yup. She waited until the last possible moment to tell him. She was expecting an explosion during her sisters wedding and used the wedding as an opportunity to turn it around on him and gaslight the heck out of him. The waterworks and panic attacks only started when she realized he wasn’t falling for her gaslighting campaign. That's not the behavior of someone who truly thinks he wouldn't care about what happened before their marriage. She wasn't surprised at all about how angry he was (though she pretended to be), only that it took more effort than she expected to gaslight him into compliance.
They’re just sitting on a ticking time bomb. She is using her panic attacks and tears to manipulate him into forgiving her and he is using her guilt to control her. Love, trust and respect has gone out of the window in this marriage.
I completely agree. Offloading responsibility to her "view of marriage instilled by her mother" and her lack of empathy in the beginning are the biggest red flags i have seen.
@@ricoarmstrong7440 absolutely spot on she isn’t distraught cause she cheated she is in this state cause she doesn’t want divorce as her family has this rosy picture of marriages where they don’t get divorced and she doesn’t want to be the first one to taint that rosy frame…
@@SudershanK Yeah definetly. Especially when she has that first panic attack. It only comes once she realises that consequences are coming her way. Not because she hurt her husband.
More concerned with her own image instead of the people that love her ...
I don't understand why you would come out as manipulative about the paperwork. That's a reasonable point to have. If we can't uphold our efforts then this is the outcome. That's not manipulative.
It is actually are form of manipulation. His intention weren't manipulative but his actions where.
ITs the idea that he would always hold the possibility of divorce over her head.
@@hunterblane610 ok but the video even said it was a temporary option. It wasn't a forever thing. He needed to know that he could trust her. I mean she is the one who betrayed his trust and then dismissed him about it. I mean if it had been me I'd have filled them out and walked away.
@@carrottop7506 The thing is, its easy to say something is temporary, but something like that can go from temporary to indefinite at the drop of a hat.
@@hunterblane610 yeah but that's kinda the point. She betrayed him and has to earn his trust again. This is him saying if she can't then this is the outcome. Because if she can't prove he can trust her than the only option is divorce.
See, what bothers me is that she KNEW it was wrong the whole time or she would have told him way earlier. She hid it from EVERYBODY. She wasn't even the reason her own sister found out. She's using this excuse that "I thought it was fine because we weren't married" but she clearly knew it was terrible the whole time.
She knew back then it would hurt him, but she told herself it was fine to do that to him because they weren't married yet.
And what that tells me is that she is fine hurting others as long as she has an excuse for it.
And that fact she could have a “panic attack” and have op running in circles for her, shows she has dude wrapped around her finger. Anything that she does to OP he deserves.
Exactly what I was thinking! And the therapist had a bad take on the matter too. Even if what he did was manipulative, this woman was manipulative as heck before everything even started! And she deserved to have that sword of Democles hanging over her head when she put OP through all that pain and suffering without remorse. She didn't care or see it as a big deal until she realized it would actually affect her too in the long run. And her being curled up in mommy's lap when he showed up, but HE was the one who was childish??
Just divorce and move on,oh and air the laundry before leaving
Divorce was the solution
Edit:Thank you for 500 likes
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Agreed
I disagree
@@RbSm-fe7rc Ok
@@RbSm-fe7rc why?
This poor guy. Gets cheated on, have the affair partner paraded in front of him, is put in the position of comforting the cheater, and still doesn’t realize that he’s too good for her. I can only hope he develops some self worth.
“Not being respectful” to the man she cheated on him with is WILD
I like how he feels like a monster ( just as she intended so he'd keep his mouth shut) by the end of it. Now she will be the victim , her cheating will be not as bad in her mind , and she'll go back to being queen of victim land.
The fact that she had a panic attack even though she was in the wrong and accused him of being childish is really f'd up
How? She cant control panic attacks
@@Pentopodcastshe was trying to gaslight him
@@PentopodcastBecause she threw herself into a tizzy on purpose and worked herself up as much as humanly possible to try and delay the inevitable. It's literally a tactic toddlers use and is kind of sad that her as a grown adult did it. Not once but twice
Panic attacks can't be controlled, I'm NOT saying she's in the right. Just that no one can control emotions let alone panic attack, she truly thought it wasn't a big deal now is realizing her mistakes full force.
It's her and the mothers mind set that's wrong, as she got older she should have grew out of it. Hopefully if she dates again she'll be honest this time
Op should have left right after hearing the news.
Op a push over 😂😂😂 she going to do it again soon
Fr. I have a feeling that op still has feelings for the other guy
Op is a bitch if your wife cheats once, she's going to cheat again.
@@AAAAAA-kz8hoor has had other relationships over the last 3 yrs. But the way she acted at the wedding makes me
Think she is into him
@@maryjane4432 and she's not even guilty about it. She just wants to stay married for the status
@@maryjane4432 Yeah you dont just dance with another man while being married. You normally have a important reason like the dancepartner being family or someone far removed from being a potential romantic partner.
“Coming across as manipulative” by handing potential divorce papers, only to then be manipulated into staying by her side because of a panic attack and then tearing up the papers and just taking her back because she was so emotionally manipulative- this man deserves so much better. I hope they do get divorced and that woman has to live with the consequences of her actions
Probably when he finds out she cheated again
Seriously. I think I may have told her "Now you have a slight idea about how I felt at the wedding." while she was having her panic attack.
I'd probably continue with "You destroyed what we could have been, what we could have had and you also destroyed our past, every good memory I had of us is now tainted by this betrayal." And there's no way I could hold her and comfort her during her "breakdown".
I doubt it.
@@anime-channel7209
This guy deserves no better.
Its always the bad parenting
OP should divorce her.
I disagree
@@RbSm-fe7rcexplain yourself
@@RbSm-fe7rcexplain
@@Kurt-ic5vu She was raised with poor values. As soon as she understood that what she did was morally wrong, she was willing to do anything to regain his trust.
Fr
why tf did she tell him that before the wedding ????
Agree. She should have kept her mouth shut and see what happens.
So that the sister didn't drop the nuke and doom her marriage when she got busted.
@@bazookaward3859 Oh wow, now I see why you commented on another thread that what OP did at the end with the divorce papers was manipulation, you actually wanted her to continue lying.
Of course. It all makes sense now. This isn’t what healthy relationships look like dude.
@@jaredmartinez7271 lol. I guess we watch the same videos. Omission of information is not the same thing as lying. Here is something you should know. You don't need to tell you spouse everything. Here is an extreme example. You killed some in the past who tried to murder you. If you don't tell your future/current spouse about it due to the trauma it left you with. That doesn't make you are liar. This information if reveled could effect your relationship so you keep it to yourself. Now if you spouse ask you if you ever killed someone and you said NO. Then that would make you a liar.
She was scared of losing her marriage ,not scared of losing you.
"I had an affair, so let's forget about it yea?" Like bro tf what
An ER visit for a panic attack?
Excuse me wth.
I had a panic attack so bad for 12 hours that my chest hurt the entire time. I not once thought i should go to the ER- Is it normal to go the ER for a panic attack?????
My brother went to the ER because he thought he was having a heart attack. But it turned out to be a panic attack. Since then, I've known a few people who have ended up in the ER for the same reason.
Absolutely, you feel like you are about to die when you have a panic attack.
Ik it feels like your dying- but if i asked to go to the ER for every panic attack ive had, i would be in severe medical debt 😰
Also my family wouldnt take me neither would the school call for me to be taken
If you can afford it yes that panic attack just shortened your life by up to5 years maybe more.
@@zathtanks i have....10 years at max then......probably less.....
I used to have multiple minor ones a day- then sometimes if unlucky a major one
Divorce her asap
I disagree
@@RbSm-fe7rcbro explain
@@RbSm-fe7rc why
To cheat is a choice, not an accident. Its not that easy to just forget when you know that they chose to cheat
Show she cheated. She knew what she did was wrong. Didn't tell him until she thought she was going to get caught.
Than gas lights him, calling him a child.
What I get from that is she's not innocent in any way shape or form. She knows what she doing is wrong and does it anyway. She doesn't love him definitely doesn't respect him. Don't know what he does, but she's afraid of losing that comfort.
Stay away from her she is not meant to be married. Also stay away from her sisters. They probably carry the same way of thinking. Considering that nobody told him and she's marrying her ex.
At the beginning when she did cheat she didn't think it was something bad(which of course is a bad thing, but in her point of view it wasn't). Also I'm not protecting or excusing her behaviour just explaining that she didn't realise it was wrong at the time of cheating
Maybe her dad told the truth about that! The way her mom said to her when she’s young affect her logical thought about before/after marriage. I wouldn’t understand those kind of thoughts first; however, I’d had a male friend that think just as OP’s wife. All of our mutual friends had a big fight against his POV. In the end, we all agreed to cut tie with him for goods.
In fact, what hurt OP most is she cheated and hummiliated him by introducing/shaking hand/dancing… There’s no excuses for those things!
@@user-nj4zv6qo1y that’s completely illogical. She she didn’t think it was wrong, she wouldn’t have hid it. Only telling him when she had to (because she feared being exposed by someone else) shows she knew it was wrong. She is manipulating and gaslighting.
a grown ass man letting himself get manipulated is insane
grow a spine and leave your cheating wife
Fr it makes me so mad
Would you say that if it was a woman getting manipulated by her husband?
@@FaizatheTempestnigga yes. What type of question is that. A grown ass adult being manipulated to this degree is just terrible, and looking from the outside in, weak.
@@FaizatheTempest Yes of course. 💀Woman let themselves be manipuLated all the time too which is bad. But when a man is getting manipulated we hear things like what you said.
even if your parents tell you that its okay to cheat before the marriage because then it won't count one should still have enough brain cells to know that this isn't right. like does she not have any friends or has she never seen a movie? everyone knows cheating is bad I cant believe someone can be this dumb.
….once a cheater always a cheater. I’ve never known of someone to stop. If she’s don’t it once, and it was so little a problem, she will absolutely do it again.
“I feel like a monster”💀 1. The guy is a doormat 2. Some people dont have self respect OP was cheated on shake the guys hand watched her dance with her and still forgive 3. Cheating should never be forgiven that’s why loyalty is greater than love because love is just a feeling loyalty is the act (actions speak louder than words)
Indeed poor dude, how long until she believes she can cheat again?
Cheating isn’t a mistake it’s a god dam choice. Nomatter how she was raised. It sounds like she was raised to cheat but that doesn’t excuse it by any means
By her mom of all people. Figures.
I think, there are two cases where it might be a mistake.
Cheating while being really really drunk and being in a really bad situation that moment.
And maybe when the affair partners are exes and have for example lost their child and became closer due to that (licking each other wounds).
I myself don’t think that it would make the cheating in any way right and excusable, but only logically understandable. And it would still be completely understandable if the other partner left them after that
@@anime-channel7209 understandable or not cheating is cheating and there’s no excuse
@@stonedsquidgameing9761I didn’t say it was excusable. I only said these are situations it can be seen as mistakes and only when they immediately go clean. Only then can it be seen as a mistake, but they still should be ready if the partner would understandably leave them
I'd forgive her
But I'd still divorce
Lol
Nah I’d divorce 🗿
This guy has zero self respect.
I think he has a lot of respect for himself, he was ready to leave the relationship but is is really trying to understand her. What she was taught about love and marriage had a really big impact. If she understood what she was doing then yeah leave but I think this is in a gray area that I can see him actually work on it and not be losing any respect on himself.
@@Happy-dl4qt whatever she was taught, Instinctively or, not but she knew that it was wrong, otherwise she wouldn't have hid it for 4 years. And told her husband only when met with the possibility of getting caught.
So, the things she had pulled even after knowing it was wrong on her part is what makes her actions horrible.
And whatever excuse she, her husband or, you give me wouldn't change my mind.
@@Happy-dl4qthis wife cheated and he somehow managed to think it was his fault so ya he is a door mate
So she’s hurt because she’s a cheater and a liar? Talk about being stupid
I absolutely cant wrap my head around the wifes actions. From cheating, to introducing her husband to the guy, to becoming the victim of this all...its gross. I dont know if you can move on from this honestly. Im thankful she was honest to her parents and didnt try to lie and make him the bad guy. This is just all around sad. He wants to forget it happened so bad, to go to the time before he knew, but he cant. I hope they all get therapy and find happiness.
Once a cheater always a cheater
Captain doormat strikes again.
You said that everytime you asked yourself the question “would you have stayed” and the answer was no, grow a sack and leave.
Divorce her. She cheated on you don’t forgive her. She ruined the wedding for herself.
if my wife did this, her sister would never forget her wedding day
If that was me i wouldn't hesitate to divorce that woman, aint no way They are dancing FOR FUN AND BESTFRIEND THINGS, Red flag.
Ye
If I was that guy I whould of filed a fucking divorce.
Bro gaslighted himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣 but good for you 😂😂😂 he's making his bed with rotten woods
Honestly the best thing that could possibly happen for him is to get cheated on a second time. Too pathetic and weak to actually divorce her, and more pathetic still to allow the marriage counselor to tell him that he was being manipulative and also believe it too. Whenever you have to wonder about the fucked up state of the world you have to remember that his vote is equal to yours.
ok you spend 5 yrs in something but as something happens you get a huge huge twist and the thing you spend 5 yrs on manipulatives you so much you are stuck you dont call that weak you call that being controlled and the fact you call him pathetic. such stupidity
@@user-zt7vk5sf8z nah he’s just weak. To much of a coward sympathetic dumbass to see the problem on their relationship and just divorce
Totally, he just kept clinging onto whatever was left of that poor excuse of a relationship
Two details there: she says she thought it was fine to do it but hid it for YEARS nonetheless, only revealing at the imminent moment she'd get "caught" (in quotes because that's her word used)
Also she mentioned they weren't in a good spot and needed some FUN when she did it.
Wait for the next moment she feels that the relationship went cold, she'll immediately do it again and blame it on the rough patch they're in AGAIN
And let’s not forget - their entire relationship is just five years! This all just happened - the cheating, the lying, manipulation, the gaslighting - is over a very short period of time. She’s making it out to seem like this all happened 20 years ago. It did not. She danced and flirted with a guy in front of her husband, whom she just slept with less than four years ago. That is not years ago. She is a classic Gaslighter, possibly a narcissist, and all of this is tantamount to emotional abuse. He needs to get away from her yesterday.
Bro, you need to just leave her. She cheated on you didn’t tell you for three years only told you when she thought she would get caught. Had the balls to introduce you to him and dance with him in front of you. It sounds like she’s upset and sad because her parents explained that you probably want a divorce and now she’s feeling all sympathetic because she wants to stay married because like you said married planet
You have to understand. She genuinely didn't think she cheated. Until she got married. She didn't believe a relationship wasn't serious and she behaved like she was single. When the marriage happened she put that mindset behind her and focused on her marriage. Is she still an Idiot? 100%
This gentleman needs to go to the channel, strong successful male, and get a hard dose of reality. This won’t be the first time or the last time she cheats. He should’ve dumped her ass as soon as he found out. And at the wedding she should’ve turned down the dance out of respect for her husband.
Thought that myself. SSM would sort him out but he’s a simp and some of them don’t change
I'm pretty sure he covered this story. This is an old one.
You can’t repair that foundation when there’s an entire city on top of it, divorce her and move on.
Just leave her, she doesn’t respect you or value your time, she doesn’t respect your feelings and you don’t respect your own feelings or boundaries.
I mean, if you want to work on things and you’re doing it and she does everything you asked her for, then it really is weird to get a lawyer and have divorce papers ready “ just in case “ XD you either work through it or break things off. But make your decision, don’t swing from one to another. You both are a mess.
That’s why he said it was a mistake.
And he was trying to work it out but think about his mental state, how was he ever going to trust her again, once u break a person's trust, that person won't be able to trust you ever, this marriage is a dead end because at any point they argue or he sees her being friendly with someone else, the only thing that's going to come to his mind is she cheating and, so for his own sake he made divorce papers ready what's wrong with that, she gets panic attacks right on time and he can't even get a divorce paper
If the roles were reversed, and the man had cheated on his wife years before, the wife would take NONE of it and divorce him immediately.
There are many women who unfortunately have the same low level respect and self-esteem that OP has for themselves and continue on with their cheating spouses/partners. A lot of people don’t value themselves enough. It’s both genders tbh.
If the roles were reversed, there would also be a comment in the comment section going that "if the wife had cheated, the husband would emediately leave'
Imagine being a therapist and gaslighting him into back tracking. Also he basically just rolled on his back for her lmao
I highly respect OP and slightly commend the wife, OP for being considerate and trying to fix the marriage and not letting the whole thing go, and the wife because she actually realized her mistake (even though it was late most of the women like this don’t) and doing everything in her power to explain why she was wrong and contributing to fixing their bond, divorce isn’t that easy especially in a case like this
Watching OP get manipulated though 4 updates to the point he stayed in the relationship is insane.
It’s as if the bro is a masochist. Once a cheater - always a cheater, who doesn’t know that haha. And he feels guilty about her being sad about the divorce papers! Like, what was she expecting
SHE SHOULDVE STAYED IN THAT ER🗣️🗣️🗣️😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
Based
You're a demon, bro
😂😂😂
menace 😂
Bro is tied down by his wife playing victim and keeps getting guilt tripped too much to realize how fucked up she is and his situation is. The health in the marriage is shit, the trust is long gone, and in the end he still found a way to perceive himself as the one in the wrong, the 'monster.' Horrible ending, I presume we'll hear another update from him in 1-2 years.
Wow this man is pathetic.
I don't think him giving her divorce papers was manipulative. It told her that she had 2 options do the things needed to be better or leave the marriage. Boundaries aren't shit if there aren't clear consequences for breaking them.
He should divorce her and then decide if she deserves a second chance. Their entire marriage was based on a lie anyway so they were never really married. He said himself that he would have never married her or made those vows if he knew she’d cheated, so their marriage is literally based on a lie.
Immediately divorce because the marriage is a farce regardless and always has been. Then decide if she deserves another chance at repairing the relationship.
Dude, your guys’ understanding of values, let alone societal norms, DO NOT MATCH. This is only going to tear you up more.
Can’t believe op stayed with her unforgivable
She is stupidly blind. Honestly, not to get into your personal life but she has no touch with reality and needs to go and find that you cannot just cheat on your husband and brush it off as a joke. Divorce is probably the best solution.
OP is way too nice to her. She doesn't deserve the chance to reconcile at all imo. It's disgusting that she cheated, but the fact that she doesn't seem to feel guilty about it?? Absolutely revolting. I don't understand OP at all. How can he see her and not think about her betrayal? And fear that she'll do it again? Especially now that she has been given a second chance. I really really really don't get it.
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@@GoonerEdits FR
16:15 The fact that he thought that was a manipulation tactic in retrospect, when it was just him reinforcing his position and reminding her of the potential consequences the BOTH agreed upon, is mind boggling.
He’s dealing with a person he doesn’t know anymore. He had every right to do that to her for HIS sake, not hers. The therapist probably told him it was manipulative, which it is not. Reestablishing HEALTHY boundaries is not manipulation, especially when you’re dealing with a lying cheater.
I’ve seen this happen to women too, and they’d be totally in the right if they did what OP did to their partners.
Man, he should’ve just divorced her to begin with. Never trust a cheater, never reason, negotiate, or bargain with them, and learn to love/respect yourself.
It's very easy to tell she is lying about not knowing it's cheating if not married
1. Why was it secret until now? You hid because you knew it was cheating, you only said something at the wedding for fear of being caught, and you tried to let him know at the event so there wouldn't be a scene and you wouldn't have to address it fully, giving you time to make up some nonsense.
2. If cheating before being married isn't cheating, I'd like to see her entertainment history. How many songs? Movies? TV shows? Books? Documentary? Etc specifically talk about heartbreak while dating?
This isn't complicated most liars show the same pattern.
"i have given her hell" boy, the way youve cared for her, and you still blame yourself. she wouldve never cheated on you if she loved you. have some self respect man
Grow a spine
He did, He made a decision you could never fathom doing. This makes him the stronger person.
@@bazookaward3859stronger person? Dude let his wife dance with her fwb at a wedding lmao
@@bazookaward3859no it doesn't he is letting her walk all over him
@@Me-852 Look some people can forgive. You can't but others can. He decided he didn't want his marriage to end and now has his wife eating out of his hand to not loose him. You see the situation as a loss because he chose to forgive his wife's betrayal. Be as judgement as you want. However the guys' life belongs to him and he should live it how he wants. He is happy with his decision and that is all that matter in this situation.
Everyone is saying the op should have just divorced her and had some self respect. It’s not that easy though. He loves her and has a seemingly perfect marriage until this. It’s not easy to just walk away from someone you love like that. It sucks what he went through and I understand why he was so hesitant
I get what you are saying. i also understand why people are saying to leave her
Did anyone notice she’s only worried about the marriage and herself? She didn’t worry or even think about her Husband in all of this
The woman is manipulating Op constantly. She doesn’t feel bad at all. Op should file for divorce and get on with his life and find a wife who respects him
So she only apologised because she didn’t want to be the first to divorce in her family?
I love your stories!! also what editing app do u use to make these?
LMAO the closing line though 💀💀
Even the op doesn’t believe he isn’t a cuck,he’s trying to convince himself 😂
Honestly op should have just divorced, the wife seems a little manipulative and though that may be her mothers fault she is her own person. All her anxiety attacks that sent her to the ER where at horrible times and I feel that was making the op feel bad there for he was being guilt tripped weather it was intentional or not.
“I have put her through hell”
Bro. She put YOU through hell and then BLAMED YOU FOR BEING UPSET. don’t discard those divorce papers… you’re gonna need them.
She shattered him with a such a off handed comment of calling him a child for a justified offense. She'll find any tenderness and openness is gone.
Okok, in that situation, I probably would have gotten the divorce, but the cuckhold bit caught me off guard, smh-
The wife uses marriage as a clutch the entire time like bro at this point shes convincing him to stay in this marriage as she didn’t realize or whatever but you still did it and can’t just continue using marriage against him
Divorce. Wouldn’t have even had this conversation. She gaslighted the fuck out of him at the end.
The divorce papers was a plan if something went wrong, he isn’t manipulative for doing it.
Big L to both
She will cheat again
These are The best stories I’ve seen in one complete video
Wasn't mentioned but when she initially opened the floor for any questions, he didn't ask if there was anyone ELSE besides the one guy.
That would be one of my first questions.
I swear even the dad and mom gaslit him with the
“Oh we’re here for you even if it’s our daughter”
To make him think they’re changing
Yeah...OP is a doormat and the wife is good manipulator. They'll do well together 😂
“Also I’m not a cuckold” is crazy😂😂😂
nope. op finally gets to be wrong, wife is worse though. Going back was just stupid and I hope you get another glimpse of who she is.
She didn’t respect him then and I’m fairly sure she doesn’t now 😂. I’m pretty sure everything he wrote in the story is true minus the very LAST statement.
Her dancing with him and making OP shake his hand was worse than spitting in his face.
If he did the same she would be crying and bawling her eyes off saying he “cheated he cheated”
If they cheat once they could and probably will again
True1
OP makes my blood boil. How can you go back to a manipulative cheater like her??? She NEVER felt guilty for cheating on him, she didn’t even think about telling him and when she did she played the victim. Everytime OP had a glimpse of reasoning and thought abt ending it she manipulated him with having a panic attack and also manipulated him by having intercourse with him during dates. WHY WHY WHY would you go back to someone like that? It’s so disgusting!!! There are a million better women on the planet, why stay with her????
The therapist sounds like a piece of art, sounds like he was gang gaslight into reconciliation
That’s not how proper adjudication works. to be solely judged on who you are now requires knowing who you used to be and cross comparing to see if there’s been any real change and to see if the bad you’ve done outweighs the good you’ve done.
Bro a cheater once is a cheater forever, u will be called cuckoled and nothing more, she was yours and she choose to give herself to someone else, being understanding jn this case is a bullshit idea, she will and i mind you she will sleep with that person or someone else again, and u will have your heart broken twice by the same person, u r a fool to not divorce her
He drinking deep from that denial juice
What denial?
Leave her brother. Leave her. She doesn't deserve you