I recently bought an Inglis L9A1. Two magazines in the box is a bare minimum, and if I'm going to buy a Tisas gun from Turkey, anyway, there's no point in paying the extra $200+ that Springfield wants for adding its logo.
The springfield magazines are made by act mag, like their 1911s The inglis is a mk3, the girsan is a mk2, the springfield is a mk2 commercial design. They are from the same factory(girsan and inglis) they are cut on a cnc machine, it just requires a line being added on the program to add those extra lines. The sds guy at shot show said they are machined at the same factory and assembled in seperate factories. Girsan uses distributed manufacturing where they use a bunch of subcontractors to assemble them. Tisas owns and assembles the inglis products in house. Btw, the inglis is the only ones that has 100% parts compatibility with the Browning. The girsan has 90% compatibility, the SA is grip panels only. Check that safety before you try to swap it, springfield said there are no parts that interchange because they wanted to update and patent it. If it doesn't, I'd try a cylinder and slide safety, I own several of their hipsters, including one with a chopped slide and barrel for carry. I had it made in the 90s.
I would buy the Inglis L9A1 because of that and the fact that the company that imports them is headquartered in Knoxville Tennessee. I like supporting my local Tennessee businesses whenever I can. 😊
I have the inglis and love it. I cant beleive the quality. The springfield is made by tisas in turkey and is put together and fluffed and buffed by springfiield here in america. Thats alot of extra $$ for a name. Also i beleive the springfield has a few mim parts while the inglis is all forged
Here we go again, the SA35 is made in the US, Springfield isn't dodgy about foreign make, when the 1911 was made by imbel in Brazil, they were marked as such, the XDs and Hellions are marked Made in Croatia.... Why would Springfield then lie about the SA35 being made in the US
@@thomasward00 look up gun digest article on it. The frames and slides come 80% done from tisas. Sprinfield fluffs and buffs and finishes the rest of the build
@@thomasward00for some reason my last comment was deleted. But i said look up gun digest article. It tells u that they are made in turkey. They basically come in 80% done but springfield polishes and finishes the rest of it. That way it can be said made in usa. They cant say that about the other guns because they come in completely finished and ready for sale
@@triggerman1092 I've seen it in that article, he says I have it on good authority but Springfield doesn't say.... again, My local dealer did a factory tour and he saw them being . Made next to the 1911s.... why would Springfield mislead and lie when many of their products are marked with different country origins... For instance, the M1A isn't advertised as Made in the USA, The barel and bolt are made in Taiwan, it's labeled as such.... Springfield's new 22 Rifles are clearly marked, Made in Turkey, but they will pick the SA35 to lie about, not to mention the hi power was never an American gun to begin with
I am glad I found your review. It hit all the points without clutter. I prefer no mag safety with a firing pin block, so that leaves the Ingles for me. I am looking hard at their case hardened model, but I may wait a bit longer for more real world shooting reviews to get out there. Thank you for an excellent review!
I loved the detailed comparison as it answers a lot of questions that I had about these new makes of the Hi-Power. I have three Hi-Powers with one being a Canadian made Inglis No. 2 from the 40's. The other two Hi-Powers I have are an FN MK II and an FN MK III Practical. I got the MKII as a range shooter, but given the prices on these now I tell people who are looking for a hi-power range gun to look at these new makes you went over. I've been kind of partial to the Girsan myself, but I'm liking the Inglis now. Personally for a range shooter I'd say any of these three will work. It is all in what someone wants to spend on it.
SDS says Inglis magazines are made by Sabatti SPA, Via Alessandro Volta, Gardone, Val Trompia, BS, Italy. Sabatti, Tanfoglio, Pedersoli and Fabbrica Armi Isidoro Rizzini are partners in the Italian Firearms Group.
The Inglis L9a1 is Black Chromate finish. It's actually very nice. Mine had the common issue that you see in Older HP's were the slide stop pops up on a partially full mag, when shooting. this is due to the recoil rod spring weakening over time and use. The recoil rod spring in the Inglis seems to be a little weak. I replaced the rod with a new FN manufactured rod, and this fixed the issue. The Inglis runs flawlessly. Springfield had a few ejection issues after 700 - 800 rounds, due to a weak extractor spring. I'm not sure if Springfield fixed this problem, or not.
I have a mid 80's production FM Rosario Browning Hi Power made in Argentina under license from FN Herstal it has a mark 3 ambi safety and the mark 2/3 spur hammer instead of the ring hammer its a good gun finish isnt great but i got it years ago in Joelton TN used for $400 before these Turkish and American clones came out. 😊
To all of the forum commandos here, my local dealer is a huge Soringfiekd dealer, about 6 Months ago he did a factory tour in Genesco plant.... The SA35 is made right alongside their 1911s. In fact Springfield's govt 1911 is a touch cheaper than the SA35.... Just dont try and nake yourself feel better with buying a Turkish clone for less money.
My understanding was that Springfield is importing parts from Tisas and then assembling them in the factory, do you know if that’s the case or are they actually making their own parts?
I recently bought an Inglis L9A1. Two magazines in the box is a bare minimum, and if I'm going to buy a Tisas gun from Turkey, anyway, there's no point in paying the extra $200+ that Springfield wants for adding its logo.
Would have liked to have had one of the older Tisas Regent clones to throw into that comparison.
The regent was the same but had different steel hardening. It was the one downfall of the regent. It wears faster but had different finishes.
The springfield magazines are made by act mag, like their 1911s
The inglis is a mk3, the girsan is a mk2, the springfield is a mk2 commercial design.
They are from the same factory(girsan and inglis) they are cut on a cnc machine, it just requires a line being added on the program to add those extra lines. The sds guy at shot show said they are machined at the same factory and assembled in seperate factories. Girsan uses distributed manufacturing where they use a bunch of subcontractors to assemble them. Tisas owns and assembles the inglis products in house.
Btw, the inglis is the only ones that has 100% parts compatibility with the Browning. The girsan has 90% compatibility, the SA is grip panels only.
Check that safety before you try to swap it, springfield said there are no parts that interchange because they wanted to update and patent it. If it doesn't, I'd try a cylinder and slide safety, I own several of their hipsters, including one with a chopped slide and barrel for carry. I had it made in the 90s.
@@PhuVet Thanks for the info. I ordered a Cylinder and Slide safety for my Match. However, I still need to work at it to get it to function properly.
I would buy the Inglis L9A1 because of that and the fact that the company that imports them is headquartered in Knoxville Tennessee. I like supporting my local Tennessee businesses whenever I can. 😊
I have the inglis and love it. I cant beleive the quality. The springfield is made by tisas in turkey and is put together and fluffed and buffed by springfiield here in america. Thats alot of extra $$ for a name. Also i beleive the springfield has a few mim parts while the inglis is all forged
Here we go again, the SA35 is made in the US, Springfield isn't dodgy about foreign make, when the 1911 was made by imbel in Brazil, they were marked as such, the XDs and Hellions are marked Made in Croatia....
Why would Springfield then lie about the SA35 being made in the US
@@thomasward00 call them. Ask them where the frames and slides are made.
@@thomasward00 look up gun digest article on it. The frames and slides come 80% done from tisas. Sprinfield fluffs and buffs and finishes the rest of the build
@@thomasward00for some reason my last comment was deleted. But i said look up gun digest article. It tells u that they are made in turkey. They basically come in 80% done but springfield polishes and finishes the rest of it. That way it can be said made in usa. They cant say that about the other guns because they come in completely finished and ready for sale
@@triggerman1092 I've seen it in that article, he says I have it on good authority but Springfield doesn't say.... again, My local dealer did a factory tour and he saw them being . Made next to the 1911s.... why would Springfield mislead and lie when many of their products are marked with different country origins... For instance, the M1A isn't advertised as Made in the USA, The barel and bolt are made in Taiwan, it's labeled as such....
Springfield's new 22 Rifles are clearly marked, Made in Turkey, but they will pick the SA35 to lie about, not to mention the hi power was never an American gun to begin with
I am glad I found your review. It hit all the points without clutter. I prefer no mag safety with a firing pin block, so that leaves the Ingles for me. I am looking hard at their case hardened model, but I may wait a bit longer for more real world shooting reviews to get out there. Thank you for an excellent review!
I bought a Girsan MC P35 a few weeks ago on sale for $359 at Vance in Columbus OH now the price is $569 to $589.
I loved the detailed comparison as it answers a lot of questions that I had about these new makes of the Hi-Power. I have three Hi-Powers with one being a Canadian made Inglis No. 2 from the 40's. The other two Hi-Powers I have are an FN MK II and an FN MK III Practical. I got the MKII as a range shooter, but given the prices on these now I tell people who are looking for a hi-power range gun to look at these new makes you went over. I've been kind of partial to the Girsan myself, but I'm liking the Inglis now. Personally for a range shooter I'd say any of these three will work. It is all in what someone wants to spend on it.
This was a fantastic review and very helpful! Thank you.
More HP videos on the way. Be on the lookout for them.
Nice review! Answered all my questions, thanks!
I've heard of a lot of issues with the Springfield. I'm really considering the Ingis over a milsurp. Seems that they're made well to spec.
I've got an FEG Hi Power (needs work though) and I've been wanting to get one of these new clones. Thank you for this excellent overview.
Have the FEG repaired, they are nice pistols.
@@ThrowingCopperCRA-2022 I plan to. I don't think there's a semi auto pistol that feels more right in my hand than a Hi Power.
SDS says Inglis magazines are made by Sabatti SPA, Via Alessandro Volta, Gardone, Val Trompia, BS, Italy. Sabatti, Tanfoglio, Pedersoli and Fabbrica Armi Isidoro Rizzini are partners in the Italian Firearms Group.
Thanks for sharing.
The Inglis L9a1 is Black Chromate finish. It's actually very nice. Mine had the common issue that you see in Older HP's were the slide stop pops up on a partially full mag, when shooting. this is due to the recoil rod spring weakening over time and use. The recoil rod spring in the Inglis seems to be a little weak. I replaced the rod with a new FN manufactured rod, and this fixed the issue. The Inglis runs flawlessly.
Springfield had a few ejection issues after 700 - 800 rounds, due to a weak extractor spring. I'm not sure if Springfield fixed this problem, or not.
Thanks for sharing.
I have a mid 80's production FM Rosario Browning Hi Power made in Argentina under license from FN Herstal it has a mark 3 ambi safety and the mark 2/3 spur hammer instead of the ring hammer its a good gun finish isnt great but i got it years ago in Joelton TN used for $400 before these Turkish and American clones came out. 😊
Hopefully Inglis comes out with a full parkerized version soon....be really sweet looking.
May have something to do with the firing pin safetys having something to do with the compatability of the slides
Possibly.
5 Star table top Review. Thanks again.
Thank you for doing this! Nice!
Very informative comparison.
Good to know
I have one that was built in india on Canadian machinery never hear about it. Looks and shoots fine
The quality of the SA35 is obviously much better with fully forged steel and cold forge barrel. No MIM parts.
Thank you it did help me .
the girsan and englis looks identically the same, its like the same manufacturer and they just retailed it
We would probably never know.
To all of the forum commandos here, my local dealer is a huge Soringfiekd dealer, about 6 Months ago he did a factory tour in Genesco plant.... The SA35 is made right alongside their 1911s.
In fact Springfield's govt 1911 is a touch cheaper than the SA35....
Just dont try and nake yourself feel better with buying a Turkish clone for less money.
My understanding was that Springfield is importing parts from Tisas and then assembling them in the factory, do you know if that’s the case or are they actually making their own parts?
@@brandonvaughn1200 Springfield makes their 1911's and SA35 in House....
@@thomasward00 oh nice then it would definitely be worth it then for the Springfield version
Unless things have improved Springfield quality control is iffy at best on the sa35 and customer service has been less than stellar.
@@bjohnson1489 I’ve heard that the most recent batch numbers have been good to go, but I don’t know if that’s been confirmed yet
Wow great video very informative I think I'm going with the SA 35 . By the way are You from Rhodesia ?
Thanks for watching. I'm originally from South Africa.