Exposing The Hidden World of HACKERS In Battlefield 2042..💀
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- This is going to be a strange one. Today I'm interviewing one of the top Cheat Coders for Battlefield 2042 to explore how big of a problem it really is, why EA's Anti-Cheat doesn't stop everything, and perhaps most importantly, why they do it?
00:00 Intro
02:12 How Does Cheat Distribution work?
03:47 How effective is EA's Anti-Cheat?
06:17 How many people Cheat in Battlefield 2042?
07:11 Doesn't Cheating ruin the experience?
08:58 What about the moral/ethics of cheating?
10:25 What about the next Battlefield game?
12:48 Conclusion 
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Cheaters are losers, which is why they cheat.
But cheat providers (who get paid for programming hacks) are financially winning as they're literally getting paid to play the game lol 🤔.
@@ik1llpeeple4fun still losers.
@@deycallmewallace yuuup
ive known people to cheat that could destroy me in cod without them. its mostly the getting caught part. like doing something with your girlfriend ina risky/public space. cheaters like seeing how far they can cheat before they get banned not to win norm. like he said your not playing the same game and these people win every single day they are not banned and only lose when they are (but then they buy a new account) your playing 2 different games.
i remember when BF3 and BF4 3rd party server browser things like UAV and 3FOV aimbot where normal. its cheating but again your not playing and never will be playing the same game. hell even the BF4 and BF3 com still accept FOV aimbot of 3 as a legit play style even though its a aimbot
@@zasukie1423 still losers
If there was hacks to unlock everything in store EA would make anti cheat next day
those exist in almost every game, but they are kept private
Oh they exist using cod as an ex and have an extremely low ban rate, called RUT unlocker it's everything unreleased unfinished content, Dev exclusive.. everything. Thousands of dollars Worth of cod micro transactions for $35. For cod at least these aren't private, and are easily found. Worth noting these give you no advantage over other players other than bypassing the pay wall/not grinding .
3,000+ hours. Win some, lose some and proud of NOT cheating.
That's right.
Pretending to be good at a something seems like a "kink" to these people.
Well they are good at it, I don't think people who do not cheat understand what the mindset is for a cheater. It feels like there is this automatic assumption 'they are pathetic' 'they do this for X', and that's not at all what it is. Like it or not, they are beating people. They have a handicap and people feel their own way about it, but injecting your own emotions into the situation keeps you from seeing how they feel. Even in this interview Ghost kind of put his own bias into the conversation. They just don't see themselves the way you see them.
Similar things could be said about any form of cheating, outside of videogames as well. It is a very common practice, and it's not always about being a "kink" as you suggest. Dude even said it's not about the game anymore, it's about the meta game of looking legit while playing with cheats, ie their interactions with the lobby/admins rather than the game itself. In many ways you're playing into it by trying to ridicule them, they'll just see you as someone overcome by rage as a result of your own incompetence. No offense intended, of course.
@erbalicious nah its made for losers who need to get a new hobby... as a admin it's fun banning all the cheaters
@@mitri5389 Haven't you ever wanted to understand more than your own disgust/vengeance response though? Everyone loves punching down on cheaters... but have you ever tried to do more than react to them?
@@erbaliciousit's not punching down
It's uppercuts they need:)
@@stephencollins9062 really getting the feeling most people just want to hurt them... which is obvious, but kind of pointless? Real talk, these low level conversations just perpetuate a cycle of violence and are more about feeling bigger than the 'bully'... by being a bigger bully.
Is it wrong to try to understand the psychology instead?
So basically we're all playing with people who aren't even playing the same game.
id say no. your playing to have fun with the base game they are playing to have fun with a tool. you will never understand a cheater do to that. unless it is pure 100% "i wanna win" but thats honestly not that many
Nah I wouldn't say that, don't let this piece blow things out of proportion, cheaters are still few and far between in BF2042 in my experience.
Cheater in interview "I'm not trying to fool myself and think I am a good player, I am cheating for not getting caught and that is a game in a game this is why I do it for 18 yrs!" Bro is smoking his own supply of BS
@@GhostGamingg clearly you haven't seen all the other youtube videos calling out the cheating problem for the past 2 years to very recently. I swear EA has Specialized Servers made for RUclipsrs and Twitch Players. With no sbmm and no cheaters. That way none of you can see or report these people. I run into teams of these loser as well as many others do to. Regular players can only rely EA's Report System (which doesn't do shite) and use XB and PS Clips which doesn't help either. There's evidence out there Ghost, this guy's just saying no one is cheating on BF2042 just to dodge suspicion. Why would he tell you #'s about them? He could get sued then bam no $ no company and 18+ years of cheating flushed rightfully down the drain.
"I know it's wrong to harvest organs from children but there's a market and a community for it, so..."
And if I don't do it they could be someone who doesn't harvest the organs well. I don't want people to buy damaged organs, so I'm offering a positive service.
People can say "oh thats not the same thing" and yeah they're not the same, but its the exact same principle. I bet he's a 120 lb rat in real life too.
I almost started to feel bad for this guy, but then I remembered all he has to do is check a box and he ruins so many other people's time.
He sounded delusional, almost like a politician but not quite as smart
I’ve been playing since BF3. It’s usually pretty apparent when someone is a good player vs a hacker. Being in a server with a blatant hacker is one of the worst gaming experiences for sure.
its not apparent for some, me and my friend use the attack heli alot and we tear the lobby up and we get acused of hacks
@@TheHolsomback Yeah, People some People just dont seem to know the difference between Cheats and good players. I have been called a Cheater in some of my BFV Games and saw Cheats beeing called on other Players and when encountering those players they definitly didnt have any Cheats and maybe just had a Lucky Moment.
@@TheHolsomback some people just accuse anybody of cheating. I was accused once when I had a lucky round. And it wasn't even anything crazy, I think all I had was a really lucky flank or something.
Actually no. The ones you can tell are cheating are rage hackers and easy to spot. But there are so many that exist and hiding as just "good player, get some skill bruh".
The guy literally said he likes to play as a cheater that is not detected either by players or the anti-cheat system.
See some of them have learned to tweak their cheating tools just enough to have an edge, but not obvious enough to be spotted as a cheater. Some aim assist but not outright botting.
It's disgusting.
@@Canuck-1976 Sure some People are cheating and Hiding it very well but some People just see the Scoreboard and assume every Player with good Stats is Cheating.
I love how he says “who knows what they are going to do in the future” while he is the one forcing them to do whatever they are going to do. Cheaters make everything worse for legit players.
As a long-time battlefield fan, thank you Ghost for sticking with the game through the hard times. I realize a dying/dead game is hard to keep up with the views on your channel, but I, myself, watch all of them and appreciate the well-done content on your part. I started with Westie and Jackfrags, but they moved on (Westie more than Jack. I still appreciate Jack's content). I find your channel very insightful and it was a shame when DICE/EA banned you earlier this year. You have always championed this game and while you criticized it, it was always constructive and always in the game's (and player's) best interest. Keep up the great content!
Thanks mate, appreciate you!
I miss when there was no console/pc cross play. It was a lot harder for people to cheat on console because it meant physically modifying your hardware. On of all you gotta do is download a file and boom, you got cheats.
You can mod a console yes, but cheat programs is not possible since you can’t have more than 1 app up and running at the same time as like a game or streaming app.
But things like Cronus Zen is just giving you a slightly better but wonky aim assist and no recoil assistance. But that doesn’t give you godlike aim hacks or no walls like a professional made cheat program.
@@MrGrazzhoppa that’s my whole point. Pc cheating and console cheating are not the same thing and pc cheating has borderline ruined console gaming due to cross play.
I hate to blame dying on a cheater but I will admit that every time someone makes a near impossible snipe on me it’s a PC player.
Definitely a cheater lol ☠️.
News flash.. Console has soft cheats
@@Lowbottomsteez Soft cheats?
@@hyperconfidence650 Yeah I tried turning cross play off but never could get in a match.
@@shane1489 no recoil, a aim that sticks to a target, etc
Honestly this conversation sounded like talking to a functioning addict. They know what they do is wrong but also can't stop.
you heard him. most of his audience are younger population. also he said it's his full time job which pays the bills. I have nothing against him, he is just the guy that find himself what he is good at and how to get money out of it, and I strongly believe EA and DICE or every other studio can stop this. This are their own video games, it would be funny that multimillion or even multibillion companies cannot stop cheaters from cheating.
@@SomeUnremarkableGuylisten to what he said @11:30 and you’ll understand why the companies are in such a predicament. Until they come up with some new way to code these games to prevent hacking, it’s going to keep being a problem.
Ngl this is the first cheat developer that actually made sense to me when he talked about his reasoning behind cheating and developing cheats.
At the end, everyone needs to pay the bills.
@@MrKamikaze1337 ya it is true tho I don’t agree with how he does I can respect the passion he has for what he does.
Nah he could make money working for anti chest but chooses to be a scum
I kinda agree... I wish he would take that same passion to combat cheating instead of promoting it... especially if he actually feels the way he does about the morality of it all.
What part ? because there's nothing that doesn't tell me how much of an utter lose trash person this guy is.
So when the new BF is released; there's gonna be cheaters on day 1
We need a real life Liam Neeson to "I don't know who you are, but I will find you; I will shut you down."
if you were a dev of the next bf and you didn't make that much money or you were not given credit or possibly fired before launch, you would set up a cheat website and make some extra side cash. Or you are one of many devs that put Easter eggs in for you and your team or friends.
@@firstnamelastname-jt5ci no, I think I would do the job that was asked of me to do. Because my name will come up that I've developed the game; I would everything possible to prevent hackers. Sorry I'm not like you and I actually care enough for a solid game experience. Maybe that's why I didn't get the job as the developer
@@BrwnShinobi yeah prolly... when did i insult you? I know how to make games is why i said, you dont think they fool around and add easter eggs.
@@firstnamelastname-jt5ci apologies, misread you comment. I always thought Easter eggs was just a fun thing devs added.l 🤷🏽♂️
As a programmer I can definitely empathize with his joy/accomplishment based around figuring something out and doing it well. The selling/sharing it is obviously a step beyond, but once you do the work and know there's a market, I can't exactly judge someone for making money off of their hobby.
And yet, he didn't like the drug dealer comparison lol
@@EhEhEhEINSTEIN even though he became addicted to his own product
DICE should consider hiring him and paying him to flip.
I don't think cheating can be stopped by conventional anti-cheat software as the cheat developers will always be one step ahead. As with other industries, it always struck me that data-based anti cheat is the better choice. Look at all the data across the player base (the millions of shots with each gun, at each range etc) and develop a distribution profile of what is 'reasonable'. Then look not only at the p1 but the p0.1 of player outcomes which repeat for a given player -- basically, statistically so improbable there is an exceptionally high chance that player is cheating. Send their data to a human analyst for review (possibly record them in game if the company can do that) and boom --- cheater banned. Our firm uses AI do do a highly similar though unrelated (and far more serious) tasks today. Don't accept it can't be done at very low cost.
Similar stuff is been done for more than 15 yrs now (without the AI stuff obviously)
Im pretty sure creating and selling cheats is 100% illegal.
Selling hacks is just like selling drugs doesn't matter if it's legal, you're making money from something that is morally wrong...
Big corporations are lobbying legally and illegally for immoral laws and yet weirdly they won't push on corrupt EU agencies to make cheating illegal xD
That's the other thing for a great debate that starts with question: WHY and ends with answer: PROFITS.
For hack sellers it's a gold mine, dead game = higher prices While a hack for COD costs €15 per month, a hack for bf2042 costs €60/80 per month. It is the law of demand and demand. But apparently someone is selling very cheap cheats, I don't believe that given the amount of cheaters we are seeing are still selling at those prices, there is an absurd amount of Cheaters since the last season. It looks like someone is offering them.
I have the same feeling. Since Dice announced new anti cheat - there's been huge rise in cheating. Which is hilarious in a way, because I'm not rooting for DICE anymore. I'm still dreaming of a world of people voting with their wallets, which is far gone by now sadly.
GAME IS NOT DEAD U 🤡
@@krazykuz13cmc cope
@@krazykuz13cmc really? average player count is 9000. Even though it's on sale for basically half a year now 😂Great achievement for aaa game.
Why can't publishers sue these sites that supply cheats on the grounds of tampering with their products? Some legal action has to be taken.
They often are hosted in countries that won't cooperate with law enforcement
So they spend a few million on legal fees only to find the exact same cheats up a different IP/registered in a different nation in a few minutes, assuming there is a legal way to do that in the nation in question of course.
I imagine the only way to really get this to diminish is to go after the users of the cheats in a legal manner, which is draconian as it gets. theres also the mega slippery slope of if you let one group of software publishers go after some people who sell modifications to software you are opening up the flood gates for all software devs/publishers being able to legal pursue anyone who makes software that may modify their product. I'm thinking an end to Overclocking cpu/gpu or to people being able to make mods, I mean just look at how Bethesda likes to go after modders to sell they work themselves, A law letting devs go after people who make 'cheats' is just one legal argument away from going after that mod author who lets you start with an extra stimpack in fallout, because its cheating
Whenever I call people out for cheating, everyone in the server says that "NOBODY" cheats in video games
for real, it's insane how everyone is silent about it but know it's there
Number of cheaters have dramatically risen since some RUclipsrs started posting about cheats. More people have heard that they could cheat and now there are cheaters in almost every round we play. I'm fed up with reporting those.
There is no joy in that mans voice, he knows he is wrong yet he chooses to do the wrong thing. He even said he hopes to get out of it. He said he is addicted to it. It is like a disease that pays his bills.
This is very sad.
This is wild to listen too. Well played for getting the interview and for keeping your cool; there's no way I could have done that.
kudos on getting the interview!!! great video
After years of seeing hackers from Battlefield 3, I have no hope EA will ever fix this.
Imagine hacking in a dead game 💀
u clearly never played GTA Online on PC.
For hack sellers it's a gold mine, dead game = higher prices While a hack for COD costs €15 per month, a hack for bf2042 costs €60/80 per month. It is the law of demand and demand. But apparently someone is selling very cheap cheats, I don't believe that given the amount of cheaters we are seeing are still selling at those prices, there is an absurd amount of Cheaters since the last season. It looks like someone is offering them.
Lol 23,000 concurrent players isn't exactly dead
You still clicked the video, you still commented. Aiding the algorithm… muppet lol
Definitely not dead , but sure man, your reality 👍
EA should let us PC players have their own rented servers so we could keep more track of cheaters. Because servers have their own ADMINS
and then again half of the servers have mad admins who ban anyone better than them, just like in the previous battlefields.
@@chrisuuu393I know many extremely good players in various shooters who have been rage banned for shitting on badmins. Shit, me and a friend group all got banned from 2 servers cause we soflam javelin'd an admin's nightbird in bf4. Granted those servers apparently stopped existing a few months later cause it died from people being banned and everyone else leaving to not get farmed by air pilots 24/7, but still...
Full interview would be interesting watch, sad what some peoples lives resort to when not good at anything.
Well that was unexpected, the guy actually came across as more professional and forthcoming then many public company CEO's I've talked to. I would not mind hearing the whole interview for sure. EA totally needs to hire this guy to develop their anti-cheat, seems like he could become passionate about catching cheaters as well.
This is a battle lost already. Publishers won't ever give enough of a fuck and there will always be people choosing the easy way, be it PC or console.
I really appreciate you taking the time and effort to make this video. It’s a world i have been wondering about. Also respect for the guy coming onto the call and discussing it with you. Going by his accent i kind of have an idea which country he is from ;-) What did surprise me as well is that this stuff is perfectly legal 🤯
Incredible work securing this interview, that couldn't have been easy. Thanks!
Really insightful into how these people legitimize their business of developing and selling cheats. Really disappointing.
I would not mind going to jail to stop that cheat dev!!
Big Balls for showing his voice in this video, nowadays it's common to create cheats and he still gave the interview. Respect 👍 In any case, you could immediately tell that from his accent he was German. 🤣👌 So Cheats made in Germany 🙈
I thought he sounded Spanish lmao
@@Ghostman2122 I bet he's German or live in Germany, that accent isn't deceiving.😉
Could be a German living in Chile, a mix of accents maybe.
@@dontmindme5189 🤣🤣no way, anything to do with Spanish this guy
He’s Arab
E.A should recruit this guy to help them. Since his hope is to do something with a better moral standing. I wish all cheats would vanish but I saw were there is a new monitor coming with A.I in it to act similar to aimbot
We need to start having laws for cheaters
This was a really cool video, good work!
I encounter hackers everyday in 2042. You can tell because they have 165 kills with stock weapons and stock skins not to mention a lot of them just put the word hacker in their name. lol I am pretty much done with online games at this point. I cant find a single one where my night doesn't get ruined within an hour or two by one of these terrible selfish people.
As a 3.5kd+ player I dont come across that many cheaters. It's way worse in call of duty...
I had a guy on a Crawford turret one shotting the whole damn team yesterday. It was ridiculous
W video. Super interesting. Obviously, depending on how the video does but, I think this topic/style of video is a really cool thing to start making more often.
i think the best cheat developers might be the best anti cheat developers as well
players running from enemy to enemy, with hyper awareness knowledge
How sad it is to know that there are people who are looking for a way to win and be better at simple video games. It becomes so common to them that they end up lying to themselves all their lives. It's like saying: I'm a world champion but I lied to achieve it 😂😭
I would like to hear the full interview.
Until the consequences of cheating outweigh the benefits, it will continue. Would love to see all of the major studios come together and work to combat the problem across all of their games. You get caught cheating in Battlefield, you get banned across all of your other games as well.
Most hackers use "No recoil," which is like rapid fire. Basically 1 shot = 10. I had it in 2008. It isn't ever detected
Admin kick is the best anti cheat ever.
As someone that works in cybersecurity. I can tell you that does not work. There are workarounds to that.
@@mrdappernature8861 Bribe the Admin? :))
how does admin kick work?
@@rrb876In BF4 and 1, admin of the server will ban any cheater in the server. Thats how i been playing BF1 and 4 for years without any cheaters. Never join Dice official servers!.
@@rrb876 its when people are reporting other players and the admin gets notifications. Once that happens they can ban people from their servers.
Hacker: "cheating is bad" also hacker: "but im gonna continue to do it"
Wtf
So glad I got to play the older good BF games on the console knowing I wasn't getting cheated against.
wow, ghost. great content man. this is special. thanks!
It's cool to get to hear the perspective of a cheats creator. Very cool content. Thanks!
Love the Angel Support setup! 🙂
Nice stuff dude.
When you play on console it feels like every PC player is cheating. I'm betting it's pretty high.
Depends on the game, bf2042 is nothing compared to other popular fps/comp games like they're literally infested
Please upload the full interview
6:47 I think that's good point. I also used to cheat for a while as a kid (until banned in Warcraft 3 😂), because I just couldn't handle losing. Now as an adult I would never do that.
I can kind of see what he's saying, in that he basically does it for a challenge, sticking two fingers to 'the man' etc. almost fair enough, he's clearly talented and has found a way to profit from it. I think the real problem lies with the players who buy these cheats and like with many things I guess, supply will only stop with a massive drop in demand. As for me, I just tend to report anyone with a dodgy score etc. and hope for the best, as there is no real way to tell if people are cheating. I have had two or three emails from DICE to say that action has been taken, but they don't say to who and what the action was, which is fine. BTW, it does take quite a lot for me to report people, just saying :). Anyway great content as always. Cheers.
Yes, post the whole interview please
Sure, complete interview would be really nice, I am highly interested in the topic as the BF player since 2002
Regarding the guy I can understand the excitement in doing it because for him it is a challenge, it is who is smarter, he or his team and EA or someone else and their team, not justifying what they do (I had bf1942 and bf2 servers for 10 years) in his mind is likely the fact that despite the challenge, from the moral point, if he is not making hacks, other would continue to provide, so it does not make a huge difference for the community it is he or someone else. Main point and the problem for the community which want the games without a hacks is what he said in the end - it cost companies more than hurt them and they are not willing to pay all that money to fight hacks because it is cheaper to make them than to fight them... Pity, as a long term BF fan I would really like to play cheater free BF, even to pay some month subscription to play on administered no cheater servers. IMHO BF4 solved that pretty neatly by the private servers, people took care of their servers and everything was pretty much ok. Good interview thank you very much, if possible please provide longer version.
I would be interested in a discussion of a Microsoft Gaming OS that prevents the cheating executables from running in the first place.
EA should go after him personally or hire the guy to fix the broken ass anti cheat.
Working on your own cheat software to line your own pockets vs working on putting micro transactions in a game for the benefit of shareholders, both immoral but with one you can buy your own house. Tough choice, I don't blame the guy.
It makes me a little sad to hear him say that the companies spend so much money trying to stop them and they just continue. Think what could have been in the game if they didn’t have to spend all that money on anti cheats. Just makes me sad.
I would love to hear the full recording! Please upload! I can find it at least somewhat noble that this dev is at least not infecting his cheats with malware, ransomware or anything worse. To me, if I wanted to cheat, that would be a big deterrent for me because if someone is willing to cross that moral line to create a cheat engine, it doesn't seem much worse to include a little bit of malware that steals your data or worse. I too would prefer he doesn't make cheats lol, but as you said, he clearly is an intelligent guy and not a horrible person. I think at the end of the day something people would do good to remember is that it is JUST a video game, he isn't hurting anyone in a genuine way by what he is doing, scummy as it may be.
he is definitely hurting others, he ruin it for everybody who paid for the game
Every corporation on this planet would agree with this hacker. Full profit ... no moral, no honor...
Based on his accent i would say he's french and i have a few hunches as to some older french players who i suspected for many bf titles that they cheat. Some also streamed.
Everyone knows, none of these cheats are hidden...
It’s not illegal in Belarus or Russia since they don’t care about copyright law but it is illegal in the rest of the world.
The way EA and other companies fix this is Region Locking those areas, cutting them off from the internet until they start respecting other’s intellectual property.
If these cheat providers wish to continue then every single person in those regions that play the games get blocked. No VPN, no proxy servers, etc.
If the games companies had the balls to do this watch how fast that region’s attitude changes towards cheat providers and the problem will fix itself.
If it doesn’t then the rest of us don’t have to deal with those regions anymore.
Top three regions for cheaters has always been: China, Russia and Brazil.
The problem is, the people who buy these cheats are outside of those regions.
2400 hours in battlefield here. I've noticed more cheaters after the transition to EA anti cheat from easy anti cheat. Personally I think the biggest issue as far cheating is concerned is the use of cronus zen, Especially from console players. EA recently updated TOS to ban ReWASD but failed to ban cronus smh
Great counterpoint. I appreciate his comments on the maturing of the player base.
This legality issue has been a big problem for why Activision have struggled so much with cheating since MW19 onward. All of these companies are outside the jurisdiction of the US legal system that might be able to give more leverage to the developers. The most reliable way to combat these cheat developers thus far has been to just throw lawsuits and cease and desists at the cheat devs. The idea is not to win necessarily, but to bury these small time cheat developers in so many legal fees and burn so much of their time that they're forced to give up because they can't afford to defend themselves.
Not sure if EA can or would be interested in doing the same thing, but like the guy said in the video, cheating is very rare in Battlefield. It's mostly teenagers that cheat and BF has a much older playerbase, so I imagine the amount of cheating isn't worth the cost of getting EA'a legal involved. Personally, I can count on one hand the amount of times I've run into an obvious cheater on 2042 (playing since beta) so I think 2042 doesn't really have a big problem with it.
This was fascinating. You definitely didn't pull any punches and were borderline accusatory in your questioning - good! Props to him for recognizing that he's basically scum and has to have tough skin to be in that business.
As a developer myself, I can kind of see where he's coming from. As he said, he's addicted to the rush of circumventing the rules, and since it's not really a crime, there are no real life consequences. I can understand him finding gratification in writing the hacks. I hardly agree with it, but he also didn't try to make excuses for it.
That said, there is no justification for why people actually buy and use cheats. Total losers.
Asia BF Cheaters: What is anticheat? 🤡
Goddamnit 10 years! No one can do anything about cheats for about a decade more? Wow ... That's ... Fascinating. Sad we have to endure this pain almost forever
As long as the code are running on the client ram memory, they can always be manipulated with injection. The only solution against cheaters is cloud or streamgamming on the server side.
However, this will still take a while to be realised. Depending on the network infrastructure, i.e. higher bandwidth and fast server processing (ping reaction).
Its also interesting that theres no law preventing cheating? I feel like if its something that depends on the countries just ban those countries from playing the game? forcing cheating to be illegal in those countries because people will be mad that they cant play games because they legalize cheating.
Man I wish GhostGaming had asked what the guy thinks of Riot Vanguard compared to other anti cheat systems
I am a software engineer. And I have also developed hacks for personal use. NEVER install vanguard. Even if it means abandoning LOL.
The sad reality we live in nowadays (I'm not talking about just gaming. It's a tragedy in almost every aspect of life.)
Yes - Full Interview please
I don't know that making hacks is technically illegal anywhere. It's a violation of the terms of service to use a hack, but that can only get your account banned, you can't get arrested for it. In some cases we've seen companies file suit against the cheat makers because you can make a case that they are stealing and modifying their content, but this is typically a civil court issue, not a criminal case. It may help if there was a law against making cheats, but it would be extremely hard to enforce because many are made abroad and laws in an individual country wouldn't apply to them. Maybe a legal expert can weigh in (as I am not).
I keep rewatching/listening one specific point. Like this whole video honestly is interesting. That rush feeling he gets for cheating and playing a second game where he's going against the anti-cheat, is the reason why I don't cheat. It's going to be that one time I get caught somewhere and my account gets banned. I don't want to pay for a new game or new hardware (if hardware ID ban happens) because I just wanted to cheat. I'm not the greatest by any means at 2042, level 409, almost 2k hours, but I wouldn't want that "thrill" of possibly losing this account. If it's an ID ban, well there goes my list of game on that platform. I have way too many games I've collected over the years on Steam, 37 y/o now, I wouldn't want to lose all that from other bans/vac ban/etc.
My thrill is just playing the game as it is. I personally enjoy BF2042, but I don't play nearly as much as I did at the beginning of the game's life cycle for personal reasons and the toxicity I see in the game's chat, along with these cheats. I know I can turn chat off, but chat can also be useful with communicating locations to other squads. It's just discouraging, and the last month, I think I've played maybe 2 hours in actual multiplayer matches. I've been just creating my own portal modes with PVP bots and just playing with friends and family.
The other big note being that him saying "it's legal" at the beginning for selling these cheats. I would've thought that selling a product that goes against a game's ToS would be considered illegal. I guess I still don't understand that portion because even if it's a product they're selling, he's also admitted now to using his product, which is still against the game's ToS.
I just wish the people that put the time into finding these exploits and creating cheats for the game would instead maybe try to find jobs in the gaming industry and assist with creating new definition updates for these anti cheats. Like, I would be so proud of that and wouldn't need to hide all the time. That's the rush I wish I could feel. But again, just my opinion.
Loving the videos Ghost, keep up the awesome work!
I mean, they guy is a bit insane, but he is right. There never was a consistent 100%-proof solution developed for dealing with cheats. All systems have weaknesses, cheat providers will find them eventually, which in term will create new systems with new vulnarabilities. And the cycle continues.
Lack of moral character. I guess I would rather have him work in this industry than something that actual impacts people lives like finance or healthcare.
should upload the entire thing
Very cool!
Also, I'm just going to say I think this guy is Dutch or Flemish Belgian, judging from the accent.
Appreciate your work pointing out some hackers. I don't know if it's possible, but...could you analyze a RUclips channel under the name "SefouGaming". Started following them a couple of months ago, but just recently decided to take some time to see their BF2042 gameplay. I've been playing this game for years and I know for a fact no amount of skill will allow you to see players hiding in smoke and land headshots on them. Besides, it seems like almost every enemy they see is already spotted (you can see the little "tags" on them) and I know that's not how the game works. Last but not least, their most recent uploads seem to always be 60+ kills gameplay.
18 years 💀
He was very straight forward and professional
Also full of shit haha (I mean the "hacker")
Selling cheats should absolutely be illegal, simple, it's an assault on a businesses product and clientele. These cheat devs are absolute scumbags.
I respect his responses. Didn't try to bs it. Understands it's kinda wrong but it's where he gets his kicks and no makes money. Very interesting vid
You want to see how bad cheating is come to SEA servers. Asian servers every game has 1 or 2 cheaters. Battlefield 2042 I'm always in the report menu function. It's obvious cheating because you get no gun play at all. It's usually bad on weekends and in the evening. Thanks for this awesome insight 👍❤
not gona lie this whole hacking thing is anoying ive been getting acused of hacking even though ive never hacked in my life. if you play above average now you get acused of cheating.
I completely understand him, he is very smart and made a lot of good points. I think he puts more time into the games which he hacks than many other players. I don't want to defend him. He loves to push the boundaries of games in his own way and everyone else who doesn't hack is at a disadvantage.Thanks for the video and the look behind the hack producers. It probably makes a lot of people angry, but when you play online you'll always encounter hackers in every game.
He should move on and help combat cheating instead, maybe even for companies and getting paid for it.
I legit believe EA/Dice and other game developers are running phantom/silent companies that are making and selling hacks.
From a business standpoint (as long as it stays on the downlow) it makes a lot of sense.
$100 for a game but if a player pays $10 a month for hacks, over 12 months that's a 120%+ mark-up on their profit/bottom line.
It would also make sense why some players seem to go months/years without being banned.
If they are buying the game developers hacks they could be falling through the ban net, so that the game devs keep getting their $10 a month.
I do agree with the fella talking to Ghost though, I have played all the BF titles over the last 20 years and BF2042 is far cleaner than previous BF's.
I still come across a legit cheater every month or so but apart from usual 50-1, 100-1 players that are on most servers at anytime, it is a much cleaner gaming experience.
It is funny hearing him talk at the end and reiterates what I have thought from time to time, they are probably very nice people away from the game, but in the game I wish for very unpleasant thing upon them.
It will never go away or be completely stamped out.
"people like to pretend that they are good at something rather than developing their skill and actually getting good at it"
it hits hard as a videogame player and as an artist.
you play a game, cheaters
you do art, ai "redditor bros"
people are fixiated on ruinin a hobby for everyone if they cant do it instantly and as "easy" as other people make it look.