From personal experience, the end-of-life performance of my last Chromebook was much better than my last Windows laptop and MacBook Pro. It really does come down to how you use your device. Complaining that Chrome OS won't run Final Cut Pro, etc. etc. is like complaining that a Honda Civic won't haul 12ft. lumber from the Home Depot.
It drives me crazy. Our obession with CPU power is excessive as it is. It keeps our devices expensive and 80 percent of users just use it to post social media and do administrative work!
As someone who started using a portrait secondary monitor years ago, Marques is missing out lol. Basically every website, every word doc, any list, so many things are just BETTER on a large portrait display. I would not get rid of my secondary portrait display under any circumstances, it's just so good for everything.
The difference with your secondary monitor and this monitor is that yours is... the secondary. When you have just this ONE monitor, it's TOO cumbersome to be swiveling it each time you'll be switching content, ie from video mode to video call, back to spreadsheets and then a word document.
The portrait thing works best than the landscape monitor giving the fact that people that are gonna buy this AIO wont use it as a pc. If you want a pc, you can buy a Mac or any Windows pc, even other HP's AIO. This Chrome AIO is not for the pc user, is something that I can see as the better 'pc for the living room/kitchen'. People will definitely use this as a large tablet/phone instead of a portrait-monitor pc, and thats actually a good thing for that niche cases
@@OscarFURIOUS Good thought, but on the other hand, people that need to use a tablet are going to buy an actual tablet that they can grab and hold/move around, not a "tablet" stuck on a clothed cone that constantly needs to be connected to a power outlet.
I think I would describe this more as a scaled up Nest Hub, which in essence makes it better as the central family mangement hub. You manage your smart devices via apps, do video calls, lookup things maybe even chromecast to your TV.
About the touchscreen thing: I have a 27" monitor and the first thing my younger sister tried to do when she saw it was use it as a touchscreen. Touchscreens are becoming the norm nowadays so it makes sense to have one
Chromebooks get *EIGHT* years of updates from Google, regardless of OEM, so they're completely incomparable to Android devices and even some other OS laptops. As far as long term support and stability go, they've got that aspect covered.
1. Actually the most common period is 6-7 years, newer ones of the last 1-2 years can go to 8. 2. The vendor can and in some cases do change this support period 3. Due to Chromebooks not being refreshed very regularly, the support time counts from the date the model was released. Since the hardware remains the same if you buy that Chromebook 3 years after its release, which may still be sold as new, since no refreshed happened in the past 3 years, this new Chromebook will only be supported for 3,5 years. This is very important!!!
Exactly! I thought that iMacs & MacBooks get around 8 years of OS updates. New chromebooks (& chromebase & chromeboxes) are supposed to get 8 years of updates. I honestly expected these tech reviewers to know a bit more about basic tech.
Yup, and the older Chromebooks I've had that only had 5 yrs of updates were fortunately/unfortunately running just as fast as on day 1 at their end of support. Had a Celeron Chromebox (desktop) that was SO fast as the end of its support it was really frustrating. Anyway, 8 yrs is much more appropriate. And I tend to think an 8yr old Chrome desktop will feel much faster than an 8 yr old Mac.
I'd be interested to see a cheaper, smaller version of this sold with smart speaker functionality and pitched as a home hub computer. It's a little too big and expensive to make sense as something you'd put in your kitchen right now, but there's a hint of a product niche in there
actually I think it's rlly appealing to those who want a larger home hub with a bunch of widgets for all thier scense I can easily see Paul Hibbert of smarthomesolver use these centrally in thier house and there is real use as a computer too
I'm watching this now on my son's old college mid-2009 MacBook pro. It was sitting in my closet doing nothing so I put Chrome OS on it. I Upgraded to a 128 SSD and went from 2 to 8 gigs of ram. Great way to recycle any old PC or Mac.
There tons of times when the monitor being used in portrait orientation will be really useful (ie. using native android apps, reading most webpages, word processing, etc).
I actually think that portrait mode is better for pretty much everything but watching movies/TV. Otherwise we just use landscape because we inherited it from CRT TVs are are used to it.
i actually disagree with the software updates listed in cons , I mean sure the hardware does get dated but the software is kept pretty up to date for as long as even 8 years on chomeOS
But with updates softwares get heavy and heavy and more difficult to run with dated hardware, so getting updates for 8 years on I3 or Pentium would be a nightmare to run. (Pardon my grammar, english ain't my first language)
@@alex_schwartz I have a 5 year old Pentium Chromebook that cost ~$250. Chrome OS literally updated yesterday. The thing runs like a champ. I often keep 5 or 6 tabs (or more) open at a time. Doesn't phase it.
@@alex_schwartz and this is 10th. I'd definitely skip the Pentium, but i3 is future proofed for the most likely functions on here.. The UHD integrated graphics are what's holding it back. Looking forward to seeing tensor chips in chrome devices.
Yeah he is just wrong. He could have spent 3 minutes googling the support life cycle. But he knows his audience all spent their money on Apple and Samsung products, and he wants them all to feel validated. Its basically the business model for all big tech youtubers. Make your audience feel smart for buying the most popular, most heavily marketed (and most algorthymically boosted) content.
Yeah some Appleheads like to act like having a touch screen is an affront to humanity when 1) you don't have to use it; 2) it is the method on the ipad. I feel quite certain Apple likes to keep the ipad software nerfed so people feel the need to buy both. Same reason why Mac OS has not touch. But as a result the tech narrative on RUclips is often people trying to piss on a cool feature like a 21.5 inch swivelable touch screen. You cannot find touch screen monitors of any quality for this price, anywhere -- let alone a whole desktop setup.
I always get my mom Chromebooks and it's amazing for her. She can't screw anything up too badly. Bought her a new higher end HP one for her birthday this year, but the one she had before that was $250 and lasted for 6 years without any performance slowdown, and it never stopped receiving updates! ChromeOS doesn't need to be optimized per-device like most other OSes, so even the cheap ones can keep getting the main updates.
Just as an FYI, it is called a Chromebase. 😉 Also, HP's Chromebase will receive software updates up until June 2028. That's a whopping seven years. On par with most Macs (or possibly better)! 😀
Chrome devices have a support date listed in the Settings. On newer devices it's 8 years from the release date. So for example my Lenovo Flex 5 is supported with updates until 2028. And portrait is for Android Apps. Some locked in portrait.
Really different & exciting in a good way. About 30 years ago Compaq brought out those AIO desktop computers that only had three things to plug in. A power cord, a keyboard, and the mouse. And all ports were clearly marked. People loved them because they were stylish and super easy to set up. Well, this Chromebase AIO has that same buzz.
Ok, at first I bought the HP AiO just to have in the kitchen for a quick station to look things up, and that was Great. But then I connected a second monitor to it and it preformed so much better than I expected. The second screen can stay in place wile the touch screen goes into portrait mode.
I think one of the biggest points that you missed is the fact that chromeos makes it extremely easy to use multiple user accounts. Obviously you can do this on a mac, but the ease of signing in once and nuking the account is awesome even for guest. BTW 6 yrs of updates so yeah it will be supported.
yeah, probably just doesn't want his user base to realize they can get away with spending way less money on tech. All these influencers earn a living by persuading us to consumer more things and spend more money. MHKBD's bread and butter is a western auduence obsessed with apple. Last thing he wants is his audence realizing you don't need a 2k labtop unless your doing gpu intensive stuff (and most people are not using that kind of stuff)
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Finally ChromeOS get some love. iv been advocating and using for 10y
I just wish businesses overall wasn't so stuck on Microsoft productivity suite of applications (Word, Powerpoint, Excel, etc). Google Docs and other Google productivity tools seem to work much better in my opinion. And starting to look very similar to MS Office in terms of features
I spent time working in IT for a school district. We turned old MacBooks and iMacs into Chromebooks with Chromium. The kids played low level games, write papers and they ran like champs. The reason we switched them over. Apple no longer supported them, and even with 8gb ran and i5s they ran like garbage. HP is on to something.
Again I take your points, but my Mac mini runs some iPad apps, Microsoft office 2019. For other stuff, I use the iPad mini 5, to control the lightbulb. Edit Word documents, web browse, set up streaming, on the Apple TV and Xbox. The Apple stuff and the Microsoft stuff get just as good software updates, but it’s less beta, for running Google apps. iOS 15, TV OS 15, Mac OS 12 Monterey, iPad OS 15, are already more reliable than Chrome OS. But perhaps I should have got a subscription, of Office 365 and needed less hardware, great touch screen, reorient able, portrait and landscape, in that all in one.
said like someone who hasn't used chrome os, chrome so will definitely get more updates and will run smooth and chrome on chrome os doesn't take that much ram at all
HP could make a rotating monitor with a gyroscope, touch sensor and camera that sends screen orientation commands to any computer. I'm not a fan of AIOs because you have limited options when the computer or screen break or you want to upgrade.
This kind of hardware for 600 is a big no-go. You can get a better-speced pc/laptop for 200-300$ on the second-hand market and the rest of the budget goes to the other parts of the setup.
Its not getting much attention from tech youtube. But in my experience there is zero correlation between the quality of a product and how much love it gets from the Tech you tube communuty. They always drool over the most expensive/popular items and everything else becomes either a punching bad or an afterthought. Even here, MHLBD couldn't even be bothered to google the software support life style and wrongly yold the audience it won't get as much software support as the Imac. He is just guessing! Its silly.
My chrome book is a year from the end of it life cycle. I loved the device when I got it, it was fast and responsive and had a 12 hour battery life. Now, it is noticeably slower and clunkier, even after power washing it. 😭
Its crazy watching MKBHD try his best to knock Google and Chrome OS. Apple really lines his pockets. His cringes everytime something positive is said is telling.
Hi I want to know because I have a Chromebook as my daily driver computer because in this video you all talking about chromebooks can you do editing for movies on Chromebook it will be helpful and useful if you can let me know
Apparently it doesn't have a name at all. Just a description. In full: HP Chromebase 21.5 inch All-in-One Desktop. Catchy. It appears to have more ports than the iMac. Not sure if the 10th Gen i3 has iris gfx, but that would be useful for Android games and Linux apps.
Chromebooks are great. Once you get into the groove of how they work it's really a quick, stable, and reliable OS. Much faster than Windows. My Pixelbook Go is probably the best laptop I've ever owned.
Totally agree. For most people a Chromebook is more than adequate. I had an old Chromebook back in 2012/13 and it was very frustrating with that particular iteration not having much offline capability. I switched back to Windows but the end game of that laptop was so frustrating and updates killed it. Now that internet connection is so good and ubiquitous, my new Pixelbook Go is perfect. Best laptop I've ever owned. I'll probably have it until it stops being supported, which is way longer than I've had any other computer. And longer than my friends have had their Mac books!
Hands down, my Pixelbook Go is the best laptop I own. Chrome OS is amazing and even when hooking my Pixelbook Go to an external 1440p monitor is great! The fractional scaling and experience is the best I’ve ever seen.
The thing the new M1 iMac does better in the family room context is the switching between different accounts of different family members with Touch ID / I think. With the ChromeOS Desktop I don|t think there is any biometric authentication method/ so I assume that Zoe can switch between different accounts for the same web site in ChromeOS only zum Beispiel clicking on the other account for .. saz Amazon, ZT or whatever it maz be different family members have individual accounts for .. the method without a biometric authentification method is less secure and slower .. but otherwise I agre the ChromeOS Desktop seems quite interesting for a family room setting
If Google just were smart here. Chrome OS has this potential to become as big as MacOs and Ios. They just have to build tools so that it's possible to run full-blown Android apps like desktop apps. This would enable developers to create great apps (for desktop) like video editors, sound apps etc......if they would develop an ARM cpu, that would be great also..but hey...who am i ?
I guess they only send the desktop to youtubers, I've been waiting over a month for my "paid for" desktop. I can't even get an update on my processing time or shipping. Smh
Some things *should* be dedicated though. If you've got kids using the computer, it will not be a fun experience interrupting them when you want to change the speakers or lights' settings.
@@Mister_Jay_Tee They are as they go beyond the $500 price mark. Lots of Chromebooks are even more expensive than Windows Laptops these days. Chromebooks simply don't have the revenue scale to pull off a premium value device like the M1 Air, so they keep raising quality by tiny bit but end up being ridiculously overpriced.
I have a MacBook Pro 16 which I use for work and a £259 Acer Chromebook for messing around on and taking out with me. I love chrome OS and hate taking a £3k laptop out with me. If I wanted a desktop, given that an iMac is £1200+. I would prefer to have the HP and a Pixelbook Go for the same total spend.
ChromeOS is exceptional and they are constantly upgrade the UI. I feel like Mac's interface haven't changed since like ever. Chromebooks are amazing for the money. Just buy one!
Specs DO matter on a chromebook/chromebox. I don’t use my Asus chromebox because there is a single app I need from Linux and it crashes on the chromebox because of the processor. On a more powerful chrome machine I borrowed from a friend it worked great. Specs still matter.
MHKBD, you could investigate the support life cycle and learn most new Chromebooks witll be supported longer than the Imac. Hell, the Lenovo duet at $200 is supported through 2028 and has been out 2 years.
If you're worried about having dirty kitchen hands and using a touch screen, but you're fine with using dirty kitchen hands on a keyboard you've got your priorities backwards. Your touch screen can be wiped off, but you can't get sauce out of a keyboard.
I think Apple should make a new home product to compete with Amazon and Google using iPad as a guide for new product. Calling it HomePad instead of just a speaker that's dedicated to controlling home Appliances and playing music and FaceTime.
Actually Chromebooks including bases like this HP have long up tp 8 year auto updates. This HP had them till June of 2028 so its actually very future proof. I have a low end Acer that is from 2015 and still very responsive and getting updates. Not to mention few would or should want to put a $1299 or more computer in their kitchen where oils and grim in the air from cooking can mess their computer.
I am widely disagreeing with you because if people buy a chrome book for school they will not be able to use a windows PC for when they need to go to college or any other grown-up school where they have to use specialized programs like Workmat and Cat software
I picked up one of these for Christmas as I like Chrome OS - folks this is Linux on the desktop.... :) This unit is very well built and the internal structure within the base is a heavy intricately shaped chunk of metal. Many of these ship with 8gb of ram, which is fine but its one stick so single channel. I had 2 16gb sticks of spare ram lying around so installed this to give my unit 32gb - way overkill but might as well use it! HP missed a trick though by fitting a small fan. The units use u series low power laptop chips and given we have a few pounds of metal in the base could have easily have used passive cooling for a silent unit.
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Yes seems to work just fine and reports correctly in system info. Totally OTT of coarse but its what I had to hand. 16gb is more than plenty for this device.
From personal experience, the end-of-life performance of my last Chromebook was much better than my last Windows laptop and MacBook Pro. It really does come down to how you use your device. Complaining that Chrome OS won't run Final Cut Pro, etc. etc. is like complaining that a Honda Civic won't haul 12ft. lumber from the Home Depot.
Thank you for that great analogy. The nonsense people spew because they expect A computer to act like ALL computers.
I don't think they were complaining about the Chromebook not running FCP
@@keco185 I'm having a fight with someone in this comment section over exactly that
It drives me crazy. Our obession with CPU power is excessive as it is. It keeps our devices expensive and 80 percent of users just use it to post social media and do administrative work!
MacBook pro? You just killed ur argument.
As someone who started using a portrait secondary monitor years ago, Marques is missing out lol. Basically every website, every word doc, any list, so many things are just BETTER on a large portrait display. I would not get rid of my secondary portrait display under any circumstances, it's just so good for everything.
I think a portrait main monitor vs portrait second monitor is very different. I know Marques has used portrait as a secondary before.
The difference with your secondary monitor and this monitor is that yours is... the secondary.
When you have just this ONE monitor, it's TOO cumbersome to be swiveling it each time you'll be switching content, ie from video mode to video call, back to spreadsheets and then a word document.
How is your neck ? up and down, up and down
The portrait thing works best than the landscape monitor giving the fact that people that are gonna buy this AIO wont use it as a pc. If you want a pc, you can buy a Mac or any Windows pc, even other HP's AIO. This Chrome AIO is not for the pc user, is something that I can see as the better 'pc for the living room/kitchen'. People will definitely use this as a large tablet/phone instead of a portrait-monitor pc, and thats actually a good thing for that niche cases
@@OscarFURIOUS Good thought, but on the other hand, people that need to use a tablet are going to buy an actual tablet that they can grab and hold/move around, not a "tablet" stuck on a clothed cone that constantly needs to be connected to a power outlet.
I think I would describe this more as a scaled up Nest Hub, which in essence makes it better as the central family mangement hub. You manage your smart devices via apps, do video calls, lookup things maybe even chromecast to your TV.
About the touchscreen thing: I have a 27" monitor and the first thing my younger sister tried to do when she saw it was use it as a touchscreen. Touchscreens are becoming the norm nowadays so it makes sense to have one
I have a friend that is so used to her touchscreen laptop that sometimes she tries to touch her tv screen when her laptop is plugged into it.
Chromebooks get *EIGHT* years of updates from Google, regardless of OEM, so they're completely incomparable to Android devices and even some other OS laptops. As far as long term support and stability go, they've got that aspect covered.
1. Actually the most common period is 6-7 years, newer ones of the last 1-2 years can go to 8.
2. The vendor can and in some cases do change this support period
3. Due to Chromebooks not being refreshed very regularly, the support time counts from the date the model was released. Since the hardware remains the same if you buy that Chromebook 3 years after its release, which may still be sold as new, since no refreshed happened in the past 3 years, this new Chromebook will only be supported for 3,5 years. This is very important!!!
You think 8 years is impressive 😭😭😂😂😂
@@LeonZaneFigueira it is.
@@LeonZaneFigueira almost no one is using an iphone 5s from 8 years ago. It wouldn't be a great experience anyway.
@@LeonZaneFigueira it definitely is
arent a lot of chromebooks promising something like 8 years of updates now?
Yeah, from 8 to 12 years
Yes they have a support date in the settings. 8 years from release.
Exactly! I thought that iMacs & MacBooks get around 8 years of OS updates. New chromebooks (& chromebase & chromeboxes) are supposed to get 8 years of updates. I honestly expected these tech reviewers to know a bit more about basic tech.
And they get updated like every 3 weeks.
Yup, and the older Chromebooks I've had that only had 5 yrs of updates were fortunately/unfortunately running just as fast as on day 1 at their end of support. Had a Celeron Chromebox (desktop) that was SO fast as the end of its support it was really frustrating. Anyway, 8 yrs is much more appropriate. And I tend to think an 8yr old Chrome desktop will feel much faster than an 8 yr old Mac.
I'd be interested to see a cheaper, smaller version of this sold with smart speaker functionality and pitched as a home hub computer. It's a little too big and expensive to make sense as something you'd put in your kitchen right now, but there's a hint of a product niche in there
actually I think it's rlly appealing to those who want a larger home hub with a bunch of widgets for all thier scense I can easily see Paul Hibbert of smarthomesolver use these centrally in thier house and there is real use as a computer too
The HP Chromebase has google assistant built into the speaker
It already kinda feels like a larger Google Nest screen
I'm watching this now on my son's old college mid-2009 MacBook pro. It was sitting in my closet doing nothing so I put Chrome OS on it. I Upgraded to a 128 SSD and went from 2 to 8 gigs of ram. Great way to recycle any old PC or Mac.
Yeah, interestingly this device lets you replace/upgrade your ram and storage as well.
There tons of times when the monitor being used in portrait orientation will be really useful (ie. using native android apps, reading most webpages, word processing, etc).
I actually think that portrait mode is better for pretty much everything but watching movies/TV. Otherwise we just use landscape because we inherited it from CRT TVs are are used to it.
i actually disagree with the software updates listed in cons , I mean sure the hardware does get dated but the software is kept pretty up to date for as long as even 8 years on chomeOS
But with updates softwares get heavy and heavy and more difficult to run with dated hardware, so getting updates for 8 years on I3 or Pentium would be a nightmare to run. (Pardon my grammar, english ain't my first language)
@@alex_schwartz I have a 5 year old Pentium Chromebook that cost ~$250. Chrome OS literally updated yesterday. The thing runs like a champ. I often keep 5 or 6 tabs (or more) open at a time. Doesn't phase it.
@@alex_schwartz and this is 10th. I'd definitely skip the Pentium, but i3 is future proofed for the most likely functions on here.. The UHD integrated graphics are what's holding it back. Looking forward to seeing tensor chips in chrome devices.
@@dyscotopia exactly, I cannot be more excited to see tensor on a mid range chromebook
Yeah he is just wrong. He could have spent 3 minutes googling the support life cycle. But he knows his audience all spent their money on Apple and Samsung products, and he wants them all to feel validated. Its basically the business model for all big tech youtubers. Make your audience feel smart for buying the most popular, most heavily marketed (and most algorthymically boosted) content.
Absolutely if you have little kids. They'll touch the screen anyways and the multi user system in Chrome os is awesome
Yeah some Appleheads like to act like having a touch screen is an affront to humanity when 1) you don't have to use it; 2) it is the method on the ipad. I feel quite certain Apple likes to keep the ipad software nerfed so people feel the need to buy both. Same reason why Mac OS has not touch. But as a result the tech narrative on RUclips is often people trying to piss on a cool feature like a 21.5 inch swivelable touch screen. You cannot find touch screen monitors of any quality for this price, anywhere -- let alone a whole desktop setup.
Marques, you need kids to understand the touchscreen situation... Way better than non touch screens for a family.
I always get my mom Chromebooks and it's amazing for her. She can't screw anything up too badly. Bought her a new higher end HP one for her birthday this year, but the one she had before that was $250 and lasted for 6 years without any performance slowdown, and it never stopped receiving updates! ChromeOS doesn't need to be optimized per-device like most other OSes, so even the cheap ones can keep getting the main updates.
This is the nicest looking AIO that I have ever seen.
This looks like an awesome option for writers who’d like a separate machine for a writing nook.
Bingo. Exactly what I bought mine for.
Chrome AIO is a fine name. It's literally just the type of computer it is. Like the new Macs are AIOs.
Yes! More ChromeOS vids please!!
Just as an FYI, it is called a Chromebase. 😉
Also, HP's Chromebase will receive software updates up until June 2028. That's a whopping seven years. On par with most Macs (or possibly better)! 😀
"We used to have a computer in our living room where we wouldn't get in trouble on them."
Chrome devices have a support date listed in the Settings. On newer devices it's 8 years from the release date. So for example my Lenovo Flex 5 is supported with updates until 2028. And portrait is for Android Apps. Some locked in portrait.
Let’s see how good the camera and mics are for video and audio chats.
Really different & exciting in a good way. About 30 years ago Compaq brought out those AIO desktop computers that only had three things to plug in. A power cord, a keyboard, and the mouse. And all ports were clearly marked. People loved them because they were stylish and super easy to set up. Well, this Chromebase AIO has that same buzz.
Very interesting case for Chrome OS. Definitely changed the way I look at them going forward.
AIO could stand for All In One. Just guessing because this term is pretty common in desktops.
It does
Ok, at first I bought the HP AiO just to have in the kitchen for a quick station to look things up, and that was Great. But then I connected a second monitor to it and it preformed so much better than I expected. The second screen can stay in place wile the touch screen goes into portrait mode.
I think one of the biggest points that you missed is the fact that chromeos makes it extremely easy to use multiple user accounts. Obviously you can do this on a mac, but the ease of signing in once and nuking the account is awesome even for guest. BTW 6 yrs of updates so yeah it will be supported.
yeah, probably just doesn't want his user base to realize they can get away with spending way less money on tech. All these influencers earn a living by persuading us to consumer more things and spend more money. MHKBD's bread and butter is a western auduence obsessed with apple. Last thing he wants is his audence realizing you don't need a 2k labtop unless your doing gpu intensive stuff (and most people are not using that kind of stuff)
Finally ChromeOS get some love. iv been advocating and using for 10y
I just wish businesses overall wasn't so stuck on Microsoft productivity suite of applications (Word, Powerpoint, Excel, etc). Google Docs and other Google productivity tools seem to work much better in my opinion. And starting to look very similar to MS Office in terms of features
I think the "Chromebase Desktop" did it better as well
I spent time working in IT for a school district. We turned old MacBooks and iMacs into Chromebooks with Chromium.
The kids played low level games, write papers and they ran like champs. The reason we switched them over. Apple no longer supported them, and even with 8gb ran and i5s they ran like garbage. HP is on to something.
“iM1 iMac in the works”
I can see stores using this as a cheap alternative to Windows based systems
I love Chrome OS and it’s definitely the future.
From the examples of uses it sounds like a big tablet on an interesting stand
Again I take your points, but my Mac mini runs some iPad apps, Microsoft office 2019. For other stuff, I use the iPad mini 5, to control the lightbulb. Edit Word documents, web browse, set up streaming, on the Apple TV and Xbox. The Apple stuff and the Microsoft stuff get just as good software updates, but it’s less beta, for running Google apps. iOS 15, TV OS 15, Mac OS 12 Monterey, iPad OS 15, are already more reliable than Chrome OS. But perhaps I should have got a subscription, of Office 365 and needed less hardware, great touch screen, reorient able, portrait and landscape, in that all in one.
I'm 100% with you on the hot take
said like someone who hasn't used chrome os, chrome so will definitely get more updates and will run smooth and chrome on chrome os doesn't take that much ram at all
Saw the title and thought this was a joke, did not expect to be sold on the premise!
I am interested in this product and I'm sure I don't need it, but want it!
HP could make a rotating monitor with a gyroscope, touch sensor and camera that sends screen orientation commands to any computer. I'm not a fan of AIOs because you have limited options when the computer or screen break or you want to upgrade.
You could rotate it for certain android apps like Instagram and TikTok
This kind of hardware for 600 is a big no-go.
You can get a better-speced pc/laptop for 200-300$ on the second-hand market and the rest of the budget goes to the other parts of the setup.
Watching this on my 2009 MBP.
I would really like a review of it.
Not for me. But probably ok for most. Problems with devices like this is when you want to start doing more with it...you discover it limitations.
Chrome OS has full Chrome Browser, Android App and Linux App... Not everyone needs to render 8K videos 99% of time
@@FantiR For sure. If you have a "computer" just for web browsing it's a compelling device.
@@jamesbullo "What's a computer?"
AIO in the name stands for All In One Desktop
Maybe the rotation mechanism was inexpensive … but I would really like to know how many people actually will use it.
Its not getting much attention from tech youtube. But in my experience there is zero correlation between the quality of a product and how much love it gets from the Tech you tube communuty. They always drool over the most expensive/popular items and everything else becomes either a punching bad or an afterthought. Even here, MHLBD couldn't even be bothered to google the software support life style and wrongly yold the audience it won't get as much software support as the Imac. He is just guessing! Its silly.
My chrome book is a year from the end of it life cycle. I loved the device when I got it, it was fast and responsive and had a 12 hour battery life.
Now, it is noticeably slower and clunkier, even after power washing it. 😭
Where could I find an apple t-shirt like this?
Its crazy watching MKBHD try his best to knock Google and Chrome OS. Apple really lines his pockets. His cringes everytime something positive is said is telling.
Have they really never heard of an AIO before? That form factor has been around for a long time
I will totally buy this! Just for the design!
The imac doesn't have multi user support
the thumbnail... any specific reason the guy has to be always looking up at the ceiling?
Can someone explain to me who in the world is using a computer in their kitchen and why they are mentioning that so often as the use case?
Hi I want to know because I have a Chromebook as my daily driver computer because in this video you all talking about chromebooks can you do editing for movies on Chromebook it will be helpful and useful if you can let me know
Apparently it doesn't have a name at all. Just a description. In full: HP Chromebase 21.5 inch All-in-One Desktop.
Catchy. It appears to have more ports than the iMac.
Not sure if the 10th Gen i3 has iris gfx, but that would be useful for Android games and Linux apps.
Nope 11th gen started adding iris graphics
you could use google assistant without touching the screen
Chromebooks are great. Once you get into the groove of how they work it's really a quick, stable, and reliable OS. Much faster than Windows. My Pixelbook Go is probably the best laptop I've ever owned.
Totally agree. For most people a Chromebook is more than adequate. I had an old Chromebook back in 2012/13 and it was very frustrating with that particular iteration not having much offline capability. I switched back to Windows but the end game of that laptop was so frustrating and updates killed it.
Now that internet connection is so good and ubiquitous, my new Pixelbook Go is perfect. Best laptop I've ever owned. I'll probably have it until it stops being supported, which is way longer than I've had any other computer. And longer than my friends have had their Mac books!
Hands down, my Pixelbook Go is the best laptop I own. Chrome OS is amazing and even when hooking my Pixelbook Go to an external 1440p monitor is great! The fractional scaling and experience is the best I’ve ever seen.
The thing the new M1 iMac does better in the family room context is the switching between different accounts of different family members with Touch ID / I think. With the ChromeOS Desktop I don|t think there is any biometric authentication method/ so I assume that Zoe can switch between different accounts for the same web site in ChromeOS only zum Beispiel clicking on the other account for .. saz Amazon, ZT or whatever it maz be different family members have individual accounts for .. the method without a biometric authentification method is less secure and slower .. but otherwise I agre the ChromeOS Desktop seems quite interesting for a family room setting
If Google just were smart here. Chrome OS has this potential to become as big as MacOs and Ios. They just have to build tools so that it's possible to run full-blown Android apps like desktop apps. This would enable developers to create great apps (for desktop) like video editors, sound apps etc......if they would develop an ARM cpu, that would be great also..but hey...who am i ?
They really bring a good point. On top of it all with Microsoft forcing people to buy machines they are chasing consumers to the chrome book.
You should talk more about chromebooks
I guess they only send the desktop to youtubers, I've been waiting over a month for my "paid for" desktop. I can't even get an update on my processing time or shipping. Smh
5:38 dude I thought someone was facetiming me. On a PC. Dont have an Apple device.
Reminds me of those old mac computers
I agree with him. Chromebooks are amazing.
Some things *should* be dedicated though. If you've got kids using the computer, it will not be a fun experience interrupting them when you want to change the speakers or lights' settings.
That FaceTime audio tricked me
I'm sooooo buying this
Maybe do a review.
Where can I buy Andrew's t-shirt?
I always think these Chrome devices are always over priced. Way too expensive
As compared to what?
@@Mister_Jay_Tee They are as they go beyond the $500 price mark. Lots of Chromebooks are even more expensive than Windows Laptops these days.
Chromebooks simply don't have the revenue scale to pull off a premium value device like the M1 Air, so they keep raising quality by tiny bit but end up being ridiculously overpriced.
This looks amazing.
It's SSD is NVME M.2
Mkbhd is so humble. But he's also a little Apple biased.
I have a MacBook Pro 16 which I use for work and a £259 Acer Chromebook for messing around on and taking out with me. I love chrome OS and hate taking a £3k laptop out with me. If I wanted a desktop, given that an iMac is £1200+. I would prefer to have the HP and a Pixelbook Go for the same total spend.
MKBHD: you could face time.
New chromebooks have like 5 years of upgrades now
It’s a cool idea, but the conical base has no real purpose, why not just mount a tablet on a vesa mount or stand?
It has the computer parts in it , speakers and all the IO, it can be opened to upgrade RAM and SSD
"No real purpose"... It's literally the computer. That's where all the internal hardware is along with the IO and speakers.
@@jojag5 naw, I mean the shape. It’s weird and makes the base too big.
@@FantiRI got ya, but no I mean the shape is weird and bulky
Multi users one device for all family members work great, compare to tablets; windows, Android and IOS. Much cheaper on device than one for each.
ChromeOS is exceptional and they are constantly upgrade the UI. I feel like Mac's interface haven't changed since like ever. Chromebooks are amazing for the money. Just buy one!
Rotate for reading and creating docs.
Saw this during the podcast and oof. First AIO, they couldn’t give this computer a real name?
It's actually called a HP Chromebase
You mean like... Brian?
The name is HP Chromebase
Next HarmonyOS pls
Specs DO matter on a chromebook/chromebox. I don’t use my Asus chromebox because there is a single app I need from Linux and it crashes on the chromebox because of the processor. On a more powerful chrome machine I borrowed from a friend it worked great. Specs still matter.
iM1 iMac
MHKBD, you could investigate the support life cycle and learn most new Chromebooks witll be supported longer than the Imac. Hell, the Lenovo duet at $200 is supported through 2028 and has been out 2 years.
"Hard drives should be gone" *looks at my gaming pc with 3tb of """super-fast""" HDD storage and sighs*
It's called a Chromebase.
marques's reaction to the name 🤣
If you're worried about having dirty kitchen hands and using a touch screen, but you're fine with using dirty kitchen hands on a keyboard you've got your priorities backwards. Your touch screen can be wiped off, but you can't get sauce out of a keyboard.
They should make the monitor waterproof and attach to the base with magnets.
ChromeOS is too good. Great security, simple to use, and applicable to the majority of general users. Highly, highly recommended.
I think Apple should make a new home product to compete with Amazon and Google using iPad as a guide for new product. Calling it HomePad instead of just a speaker that's dedicated to controlling home Appliances and playing music and FaceTime.
Just make an iPad stand that does this. But obviously the screen size is the real plus.
the new echo dot
Actually Chromebooks including bases like this HP have long up tp 8 year auto updates. This HP had them till June of 2028 so its actually very future proof. I have a low end Acer that is from 2015 and still very responsive and getting updates. Not to mention few would or should want to put a $1299 or more computer in their kitchen where oils and grim in the air from cooking can mess their computer.
Yeah. I guess MHKBD or his giant staff cant be bothered to google "chromebook support life cycle"
bruh, I think nest hub is more suitable for kitchen and home control situation.
I am widely disagreeing with you because if people buy a chrome book for school they will not be able to use a windows PC for when they need to go to college or any other grown-up school where they have to use specialized programs like Workmat and Cat software
I picked up one of these for Christmas as I like Chrome OS - folks this is Linux on the desktop.... :)
This unit is very well built and the internal structure within the base is a heavy intricately shaped chunk of metal.
Many of these ship with 8gb of ram, which is fine but its one stick so single channel. I had 2 16gb sticks of spare ram lying around so installed this to give my unit 32gb - way overkill but might as well use it!
HP missed a trick though by fitting a small fan. The units use u series low power laptop chips and given we have a few pounds of metal in the base could have easily have used passive cooling for a silent unit.
You can use 32 gbs? I thought they may have capped it at 16. Anyway, I am tempted to buy it. The 16 gb, i3 version is $100 off atm
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Yes seems to work just fine and reports correctly in system info. Totally OTT of coarse but its what I had to hand. 16gb is more than plenty for this device.