I like how Eren ponders on the idea of what his own mother would think of him for doing what he did killing 80% of humanity. It's rather tragic he himself knows what he is doing is wrong but is doing it for the right causes to liberate his own people. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Eren is def in my top 3 best anime protagonists of all time.
I don’t think it was paved with good intentions, probably a little. He did it because he wanted to, he even tells Armin that at the end. He didn’t know he would be stopped before he started the rumbling because wiping out 80% of the population won’t solve that much at all. He developed and matured as a character but at the end he was still the immature pathetic Eren, just like Armin said.
@@simonkuiters3180 good point. And if you think about it the collosal titans fucked up a lot of the eco system by not just trampling on everything but the steam they emit from their large bodies definitely caused a lot of environmental damage. All the destroyed buildings and roads, etc would take a lot of money to rebuild probably billions easily.... like eren really did a big oopsie tbh.
@@simonkuiters3180 he only wanted to do the rumbling because the rest of the world wanted him dead. Eren wasn’t disappointed that the rest of the world wasn’t empty, but that they all wanted him dead so I feel like that’s why he said fuck it and wanted to destroy the world. I think it’s a bit of an over simplification to say he just did it cause he wanted too. Eren was backed into a corner and rebelled against the world in his own selfish and fucked up way but I don’t think it’s as simple as he just wanted to level the whole world
I think it was confirmed by the author that eren was not always wanting to see outside the walls. He didn't want to see outside the walls until armin came to him with the book when they were kids. He looked in to armin's eyes and realized he wasn't "free". That's when he started to chase this "freedom". And I think it's plausible because of you look back at it eren wasnt always seeking "freedom". I've would always used to look at the wall and just wished something would happen. He was always loathing
No what u think is not canon, he killed robbers to save Mikasa when he was like 11, he has always sought freedom, even if Armin didn't show him the book, he still hated the Titans for keeping humanity locked inside the walls and he always had a natural curiosity to go outside the walls which he would want to do even if he never met Armin. A person's desires that are that strong are not obtained from someone else showing u a book, lol, that's something that's in your nature or something you are born with.
@@thefunshackwars5418 No, you are wrong. Go reread chapter 73, Eren saids and I quote: “I had never thought about what was beyond the walls until then… I’d only spent my days looking at the clouds in the sky.” Of course the quote is much longer than this but I’m not going to write it all. Is in Eren’s nature to seek freedom but he didn’t know about it until he saw Armin’s book.
@@thefunshackwars5418 I would like to think that Eren was pushed by adult Eren to kill those robbers. If not then young Eren had some serious mental issues. But I guess we will never know
The choice to commit genocide was made for him. When he kissed historia’s hand, he didn’t see a possible future out of a million like Dr. Strange; he saw THE future. There are no branching timelines and there was no way to change the outcome of his fate. He’s more like the greek tragic figure oedipus, being told of the terror that awaits him and then immediately being rocketed towards it. Eren mentions many times that he can’t help but go through the motions or fight against the decisions that led him to the rumbling. Almost implying that something else was in control. Had he lived longer, he might have realized he was a character in a manga who’s writer has already drafted his story’s end. Sometimes real life seems that way.
@@phothewin6019 Yes but their inclusion does nothing for the story. They are included because manga fans would recognize them and think it's funny. If this timeline was canon it would ruin so much of the story. This "multiple timelines" are often drawn as a gag at the end of a chapter like baggy pants Leon. Also they are just included in the anime, when I want the true canon story I go to the story drawn by the actual author.
@@sirprahlegod3940 Even if their inclusion did nothing for the story (which isn't the case), that doesn't mean something isn't canon. Also, this _is_ in the manga (Chapter 120). This isn't anime original content. It is _officially_ canon. Isayama isn't some hack author who does things without purpose and intent. He wouldn't ruin such an integral moment of the story for easter egg lulz. Every frame, every line of dialogue has been meticulously crafted throughout the entire story. That's why AOT has some of the greatest foreshadowing in fiction, period. It isn't at all uncommon for stories dealing with time travel in some way, shape, or form to use multiple timelines or multiverses; it's a natural progression.
For what Eren has proven again and again: His power comes from his rage... when he loses his sense of humanity. We've seen Eren in end of his journey in manga much different. He didn't seem angry. More like out of his mind, unchallenged and tired. He was tired of the madness that he was letting himself to do. He had the power to change the tide of world, but he seemed to have lost all motivation to stay angry. It was same thing what happened when he was being rescued by Historia, or encouraged by Misaka. Would he ever... ever find enough courage to give himself to push forward, alone?
@Parizal badass Stop the Cap. Eren wants blood, thats the on goal for him. He dont care about nothing Else. You need to Read Attack on School castes, he want blood.
Eren dismantled the anime protagonist trope quite well because at the end of the day so many anime protagonists are children who refuse to grow up and refuse to let the world consume and shape them. Eren is a perfect example of how catastrophic it would be if you let an anime protagonist with anime power run free in a real world. 80% of the world died. Sure his friends survive and become heroes (except 1) and there may be a shaky, vague idea of world peace, but again 80% of the world died. I find it interesting too when other anime explored this. In the new Dragon Ball Super series there was a moment when Goku hesitated to kill Frieza and Frieza destroyed Earth along with everyone Goku loves. Of course Goku was saved from this mistake by literally deus ex machina, however Goku has been known to value the thrill of a fight over the objective of the fight itself (aka defeat evil and protect the weak). He has been taught this is a bad idea a few times yet often ignore the lesson. So yeah the lesson here is if we let Goku being the protector of Earth the Earth would literally be obligated because he is addicted to a “fair” fight. Much like letting an idealistic man child possess life shaping power ended very badly for 80% of people in AoT universe.
Its a reflection of the weakness in humans and how attached to our nature we are. Eren is a great example of being a slave to his nature, just like an addict who knows the choices they make are wrong and self-destructive, they will still choose the wrong decision because its the only way they know how to feel alive. Just as Kenny said as he died: " Everyone had to be drunk on something to keep pushing on. Everyone was a slave to something."
The reason why Mikasa decided to confess during that obviously very dangerous and grim moment is she thought that they were finally going to die, (seriously, like for real this time, no escape, no 3dm gear, no titan power to help them out of that fucked situation, if you don't count the coordinate power which eren didn't know he actually had that time) and she will never have the chance to do it. She wanted to comfort eren, convince him that he was actually not useless (like some people say). Eren NEVER was useless for me too. Then she leans for her first and supposedly LAST kiss for Eren, and Eren actually understood what Mikasa meant and what she was trying to do with that kiss, "she was giving up on life" with that kiss. This made Eren remember what his mother was telling him about also being always there for Mikasa, so if he accepts Mikasa's kiss then it would just mean that he was accepting their current situation, their fate, their inevitable death, and this would break his promise to his mom, contradicting what he always told Mikasa to never back down and fight. So he stood up, the kiss can always wait later, and this time he always be there for Mikasa.
"Contradicting what he said to Mikasa about not backing down" Wait.. So AOT and Eren was just a giant Nick Eh 30 "never back down, never give up" shit post?
is he tho? the world is morally grey so i couldnt really pin the blame on any of them that includes reiner and the warriors eren maybe became the villain for the rest of the world but for paradis and the eldians hes basically their lord and savior so its kinda hard to pin him as just some “villain”
@@ppqqek I disagree. If you think the whole world would try to destroy paradis, you have no brain. More than 100 years that no one attacked is proof enough. "but Marley this and Marley that" Fuck Marley, I'm not including them in the conversation. I'm talking about all the nations that were destroyed without even knowing why. "but the whole world hates them, Eren said" Eren is retarded and his opinion doesn't matter, I'm talking about the events SHOWN in the anime, not about possible interpretations of Tibur's speech, which by the way wasn't even completed.
Also, I like to add something, Reiner and Marley would've loved to kill everyone on Paradis Island. If Eren didn't go all out, they would have died and the world would celebrate their death. How is it a large population lives weigh more than those a few lives on Paradise? Why shouldn't Eren fight back? I guess the main villain of the story isn't Eren or the titans or Marley, it's human nature of war. They kill so many lives and you think they have the conscious to stop from murdering everyone. I don't agree with what Eren did, but whose to choose otherwise? Fight back the invasion over and over again? Enslave other people and nations to your cause? Bring back the horrible Eldia empire? Initiate world war? Or just ignore the fact and help the pathetic king erase ur memory and leave u ignorant of everything as he waits and never fight back? Everybody is at fault. Eren isn't the devil, he's just human.
This was really well said man. Everybody constantly judged Eren for his choice of genocide but nobody ever talks about the fact Marley was intent on committing genocide on him and his people first and were gonna go through with it no matter what. They expect paradis to lay down and die because they are the smaller population but that is just silencing and invalidating the minority. They had every right to fight back and after the atrocities marley committed on them I really can’t blame anybody for reacting how they chose to react. It’s easy to say what “the right” thing to do is but in their world they’ve been thrown in a hopeless situation and people do crazy shit when their back is against the world
@@EBWASupahMilian I like ur thoughts. I always found it abhorring that the king of the wall reacted unemotionally when Reiner and Berthold destroyed the wall, like she was willingly allowing them to kill her own people because of crimes of their ancestors which they didn't commit. A hundred lives isn't greater than one, in my opinion. Everybody have people they love more than anybody else. Eren's act was selfless because he never intended to resurrect the old tyranny Eldian empire as his newly comrades The Yeagerist. He wished this conflict to end one way or another. He didn't know for sure but he had to follow the path till the end. I see the ending of this story was like sending a message; something horrible is approaching that'll consume the whole humanity if they do not act quickly to prevent it, and that is human selfishness. Their desire for wealth and conquer. Anyway I wished people don't put all the blame on Eren, believing that there was other peaceful solutions. There was peace at the beginning with the king's inaction and it lasted for a while.
@@sasa162525 yea man like they’ve said before in the story “it’s a cruel world” Eren had the balls too commit the ultimate sin rather than lay down and die. Armin was completely useless going on and on about talking it out when Marley and the rest of the world have no intention of hearing them out and plan on killing them regardless of if they’re actually good innocent people or not. A lot of people jumped ship when they realized Paradis was the minority in the world but I’ve always hated the idea that “there are no bad guys” in AOT when the Marley govt (not the eldian warrior cadets) are 100% the bad guys when you really think about it. Paradis didn’t know they existed until 4 years prior to the end and Marley had been sending their own people in the form of man eating mindless beasts to commit endless atrocities against them. Paradis is only reacting to the way the rest of the world treats them I don’t see how they can possibly be seen as the bad guys. The first king of the walls chose peace and warned them about the rumbling but Marley’s greed and desire for the founding Titan created a monster (eren) and plunged the whole world into darkness
@@EBWASupahMilian Exactly. And if you recall, Marley was manipulated by the war hammer titan. He wanted the founding titan and risked eliminating the peace to get it. They never intended to uphold the peace for long and the king never desired to fight back once they did. I also see the appeal from Marley or any normal nations to eliminate the eldian but still keep the titan power for their own weapon. The eldian empire was fallen because of the civil war. Man, this story just keeps getting better each time I think about it. I go back to chapter 97 when Eren first introduced talking to Falco. It's a great speech and hits many facts about life and death.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking! Of course I don’t agree with genocide but let’s be honest, give any nation the power to wipe out their enemies at no risk to themselves and they’d probably do it. If during WW2 the allies had been given the power to wipe nazi germany and all its allies off the map with no possible consequences it would have at least been seriously considered. Given eren’s circumstances I can’t judge him for what he chose, being an immature person who loved his friends and having being raised with an us versus them mindset from the time he was a child, never having evolved from this mindset made his choice inevitable. Human nature is the true villain, and everyone, including eren were simply victims to it.
The best part about Eren is while he believes he is free, everything else is telling you he isn't. Visual clues like his head being held up by strings and his founding titan resembling a marionette, as well as the fact that he cannot see all the horrors he is committing due to his real eyes being closed and his child form's view being blocked by the smoke. It just shows again how twisted he is. He believes this is freedom but its genocide, and he is a slave to committing that genocide since he by nature just has to do it. Therefore, as the perpetrator, he is a slave to himself.
Philosophically speaking one cannot be truely free if one cant commit a genocide if one wants to be free one needs the freedom to do that, freedom from everything including morality, life death anything, freedom.
@@robbieaulia6462 As long as you're attached to morals/values you're basically a slave to something so yeah. Remembers me of what Canute thought of love too
It’s kinda funny looking back on the whole series that started with a boy who wanted to kill the titans for the sake of his people’s freedom, and ended with that same boy killing all the titans and freeing paradis just not the way anyone ever intended
@@ikrycesarohalim3200 First we thought the Colossal Titan was the final boss. Then we thought the Beast Titan was the final boss. Then we thought the nation of Marley was the final boss. None of us could have predicted that Eren himself would become the final boss.
“Freeing Paradis” lol. More like burdening Paradis with never ending war. Please, Re-Read the story before watching videos like this that uses misinterpretations/headcanons to justify Eren’s character assassination.
@@andrewendless8 But Paradis was free (for some time after), the fact that centuries after the fact there's a war going on at the very least shows that Paradis survived and obviously that includes the people Eren wanted to protect most. There is no permanent solution for freedom for any side; even a complete rumbling would eventually lead to internal strife within the Island given the same amount of time passing. Solving war for eternity isn't something any one person could achieve, and the way it was done is definitely not ideal; but the choice to at least try using the rumbling on the entire world fit Eren's motivations.
Eren is a full blown psychopath. And I think that's what makes him such a fascinating and captivating character: our main protagonist is a 'Violent Psychopath' and nobody starts to realize it until it's too late.
I usually don’t have main characters as my favorites, but in this case eren is my favorite is aot. The author took a big risk and did it right. Eren and Guts are the only main characters who are my favorites in their anime.
People that hate on AOT just because it's popular are sorely mistaken and missing out. You can acknowledge something is good even if you don't like it. I don't like mech anime but there are a lot of good ones out there.
4:30 Not the first time for Eren. Remember when he had to kill 2 people to save Mikasa's life? or 5 years prior when his mom was eaten infront of him lol. I love these scenes because I get to see where the lessons deeply engrained into him came from. Im no doctor but this is definetly in his formative years, so this event would have more of a lasting impact on his character for the rest of his life than if it happened later. "You have to fight to win" "you'll die if you don't win". No wonder he ended up being so relentless for the rest of the series, he learned very early life is an all in game. The foundations for his character are just so solid, I love it.
The best analysis of Eren Jaeger on RUclips. Thank you for diving so deep into the story that you not only understood it for all its beauty but for mastering it enough to present it so well and so succinctly. Much love friend you have a new subscriber and major fan!
When u think about it.. He was so close to consuming Annie, Porco, Reiner and even Buthurttoo if Zeke and Pieck didnt come to rescue them. Imagine that dude with 7 titan powers.
Well, no. I agree with most of this but he didn’t come anywhere close to eating Annie lol. Not only was her crystallizing inevitable, Levi would cut him out of his nape before he even could
@@coltondraws6566 I mean, he was close. Anime happened the way it happened, and all of those i mentioned up there are "CLOSE - what ifs".. and he was close if she didnt harden or levi wasnt there or late..
2:36 a character that was written for a story... actually fits the story. absolutely brilliant. it’s almost like the character was written for the story.
I believe that Eren as a character never changed. He literally behaves like a child until the end, selfish and envious. Especially in the scene with Armin in the Paths at the end, he shows his true colours. Or when he's talking to Ramzi before literally stepping on the kid. He wanted all of it to happen. I've snooped around the entirety of the internet and this theory is the most plausible. Things seem to line up. And although it's hard for me to accept that this character stayed the same only having thrown a new set of paint, it makes sense. He wanted his freedom and only saw it in a flattened and empty world, and so, enslaved to his own dream and his own wish, he kept chasing his freedom. I feel that Eren hates himself for what he is doing, but after seeing Armins book and later the cellar he wants to do it. But he knows he will loose so he makes the best out of it, making his friends heroes by killing him, although if he could have had it differently, he surely would have done it so. (Btw the new anime OP and ED very much foreshadow this fact - aka Eren being shown as a child for a majority of both songs)
This is all great besides the part where you said he wanted to lose because eren says to armin that he didn't know he was going to lose. But this a good comment either way
@@Romang227 Ok, what I stated was worded wrong. I met that he didn't know he was going to lose, he just knew he was going to activate the rumbling before. People get's misconcepted by the fact eren say in the future. He saw into his dad's past and since eren was going to activate the rumbling in a inevitable fate, The future inheriter will be eren his future's will shard his future with his dad. The founding titan's power is to see through both past and future but people get confused that it isn't seperate, it's corresponding at the same time. Eren only saw what his future self would tell him and what he did, which was activate the rumbling,. If eren knew he was going to be stopped he could've just used the rumbling titans to protect the island for 50 years like armin suggested but he contiuned to keep moving forward like he future self would do later on. In aot there is one fate that is caused by past actions. If one were to know the future they would have to follow what they were shown because no matter what option you do, other people's past actions will effect them. In chapter 123 where eren gets to see all possible futures, that's when he realized he would be stopped. Before he activated the rumbling so his friends can be safe from everyone from the world but then realize his demise so he pushed forward so his friend's can kill him and be honored for killing the founding titan, and stopping the curse of titans. So no one will harm them anymore. You can tell eren knew it at that moment because in chapter 139 when armin ask him will the war stop he doesn't respond and changes the subject. that's all
@@davidjones-jj2kd i didn't mean to disagree with you! You were right from the beginning about Eren being unaware of his demise until he acticated the Rumbling, it's just I didn't see it being explicitly mentioned in the manga by characters. But yes though, it makes sense
Eren is the best example of: You became the very thing you swore to destroy. But that's just for the first part of season 1. His character developed a lot, changing from a 10 year old naive and still learning bastard to a serious 19 year old (obsessed with freedom) guy.
Eren just wanted to create the world he saw in Armin's book...that's his selfish kiddish desire that he could never let go of...131 establishes this wonderfully
@@fightmight4906 his story was interesting from the very start but somewhere he got lost cuz people start to recognize other factors like levi chadness
I think that Eren was aware that Armin could possibly die but had hope that he wouldn’t, as Armin was the one who in recent times, had inspired eren to keep going, talking about seeing the sea together, so when Armin sacrificed himself to make the plan work, Eren wasn’t shocked by his bravery but by his sacrifice, which Isayama perfectly parallels with Erwin’s sacrifice of not being able to see the basement. Eren dragging Bertholdt’s dismembered body to Armin’s charred body feels like a state of shock because he can’t fathom that his best friend is lying dead in front of him. Thankfully he wasn’t, but he clings to that hope of saving Armin when Levi brings the serum and when Levi effectively gives up on Armin, it’s not shocking that Eren gets pissed. I am constantly astonished at the way Isayama crafted this story, it’s truly amazing and this was an amazing video.
When Eren realized that racism from around the world towards Eldians will never end, he knew that the only way to achieve freedom was by exterminating everyone outside of the walls.
It's heart wretching that Eren still has a human heart like a normal teenage boy despite being a born monster that destroy everything if it's the sake of freedom. A sad story of a boy who was born with that nature, which will never be justified by anyone including himself.
The further I progressed into the video it made me cry more. I don't know how to thank you for providing such an amazing point of view and making me understand AOT better than before
I like to imagine that the Manga version of AoT is one of the past lives Eren had during the time loop. And the anime is another attempt, and we get to see his life all over again, but the ending of the anime *can* change
18:00 I agree with this, if u recall in the episode where we see Erens father talking to the attack Titan aka the owl. The owl said something interesting, "we need to protect Mikasa and Armin" or smth like that. And when Erens father asked him what he meant the owl said he didn't know. This could also tie into the fact that the attack Titan can see into the future. It's up to u to decide. I just thought it was an interesting part.
Well yes that's the Attack Titan's unique ability, that its inheritors can access past and future memories. Kruger didn't know who's memories he was seeing though
Eren did not see all of the future, only parts of it. He knew he'd succeed in activating the rumbling and get the founder's powers but he did not know how.
I would wager Mikasa in Eren's life was a constant reminder once he gained the power of the Attacking Titan that love is impossible for him and that freedom was taken away. He only had 13 years to live, majority of it was to enact revenge on the Titans. Mikasa's own freedom qas tied towards Eren in many ways for he is all she has in this world and most of it is all in a time of strife. Ymir also needed Mikasa to set this endless cycle of "regret" go for Eren and Mikasa mirror the king and her. I say this because Ymir was devoted towards the king because he "saved"" her from a life of tournament. However wrong this king was he did show us that mindset of how Mikasa because Eren saved her causes her also to devote herself to him. Only now however Eren unlike the king loves Mikasa because she is the beauty and freedom he didn't get to experience for the book Armin showed Eren wasn't like anything outside the walls. Which in the other path if Eren and Mikasa ran away to be happy he held no regret for choosing Mikasa but more of the fact Mikasa would be alone and their world doomed to be killed by the world. He lamets that he put people through hell yet did his best to spare Mikasa and that is why Ymir is interested in these 2 for their love will doom the world in every reality set in until they stop thinking about finding a way to prevent that scenario of Mikasa killing Eren. In every headache Mikasa gets it is Eren from the future bring Mikasa into the paths were the 2 chose a path to be happy together with to give Mikasa a mental break of knowing she has to kill Eren as it is hinted in Ending 2 of AoT with the Mantis behind Mikasa for she was meant to behead her love as a female mantis eats the head of her mate as I recall. This in itself causes the ova special to have Mikasa enter the path thanks to Ymir and Eren to see what chocies could have lead to Eren being "free" from the fate he was going to have. It sucks for Eren for he has seen when Mikasa at least would make the choice yet would awake from the paths in his younger self for the most precious memory he has is with Mikasa standing on that hill with the scarf he gave her to shield herself the pain Eren doesn't wish to cause for her as she suffered enough. However in the end she must go through that pain of loss with Eren gone and this is what sets him off to be bitter towards Mikasa for.... 1. He can't protect her. Keep his promise to wrap the scarf around her again and again as many times as he wants because he has 13 years to live. The only way to end the curse is to kill the parasite inside of his body and by no means can he sinply get to have a happy ending. 2. Someone else will protect her, someone else will heal her scars, comfort her, replace him despite everything he had done for her yet can't be there in person. 3. He can't confess to Mikasa for by the time he does it Mikasa has made her choice and there is no point to as in the Paths he got that confession and knew only pain of it being stolen away because of time itself expiring for him. 4. He knows the world is cruel, knows that the book was a lie in somr aspects, and that the sins of everyone are placed on to his ability to cause a massive end to the bloodshed Ymir and the King caused to begin with. Despite that the world was beautiful to him because his friends made it beautiful, his family made it beautiful, and Mikasa above all made his mission the sole purpose of preserving that choice. Remember during Season 3 Mikasa and Eren are in the vally with the shadows looming over yet Mikasa brightens up Eren's world around him? Remember when Mikasa was going to die back in Trost yet because she was willing to do everything to live because only she can hold Eren's freedom of a beautiful world in her? That resulted in Eren going to Mikasa aid to protect his beautiful world in an epic fashion? Eren and Mikasa overall are the driving motivations for either side of the conflict of the story that endangers the lives of others as a result of themselves looking to be free from a life of sorrow set up by the cruel world around them, and yet Eren will sacrifice everything to still love Mikasa who embodied Eren's true freedom all this time as that scarf around her is their bond beyond time and space in which he kept her safe and now watches over her for no matter where he is as long as she calls out his name he'll embrace his "freedom" in as many times as she wants. (Recommend listening to Call your Name, No matter where you are, ED 1 of AoT and current ED of AoT for Call and newest is from Eren's POV. However Mikasa's is No matter, and ED 1 that are both Answered towards one another respectfully. Much more in depth character for the both. :)
like kenny ackermann said, everyone is a slave to something. And Eren is a slave to freedom. Tell me that isnt the most ironic statement you have ever heard. He is captive to the idea of freedom and is willing to do anything to save his people on Pardis island. I dont blame him because as it stands the hatred the world has for Eldia runs so deep that diplomacy is a far fetched idea. All he can do is fight, just fight. Great writing!
Exactly I really like how ironic it is, and same with what one RUclipsr said, giving the guy whose obsessed with freedom the ability to see the future is poetic in a sense in the fact that they have no real freedom because they are in a deterministic timeline with no branching paths, he’s obsessed with freedom yet he knows not a single choice is really his
Wow, overall great video and analysis. You definitely deserve more recognition. Really helped me in understanding his character more and even cleared the misconceptions and questions I had about him in a fairly short but very informative video highlighting the true brilliance and great writing behind his character. I used to be one of those ppl who thought he was "ruined" after the last chapter. That changed shortly tho cause I let go of that mindset and simply took him for the enjoyment he's given me but I still wanted to see videos like these and go over it once more and this one was really good. You have my SUB lmao
Don't consider myself a aot fan, but from the moment I saw Eren I knee he was written with a bigger purpose in mind when most people I hear talking about him called him useless and annoying; even the worst protag ever. Now that the final arcs of the story are coming up that's when everyone was like "hes the greatest". Good vid man, really liked it and in glad people are noticing my boi Eren.
I don't think people should be taking sides when it comes to Eren's actions. I think it's enough to accept that Eren was a deeply complex character, and one that was surely a ride to follow. 138 always gets me. "What if?" What if Eren didn't do the Rumbling, just ran away from it all, and lived out his remaining life peacefully with the person he cared the most about? I have a wife, and the very thought of choosing to do all that or spend the precious last years of life with her... it's a no duh decision, but I think that is what Eren was thinking too. He's like Light Yagami, I feel a deep regret because I know what he might have been had he chosen a different path early on. It feels... so tragic.
There's so many factors, things, and ideas about life, that are portrayed by Eren.. he.. like most of us.. are shaped by memories. If I recall, many characters I know of that are being made aren't shaped by experiences in the same way actual humans are!!! Not to mention every choice he has to make. I like that he remained a kid all throughout his life
Just to make things clear, eren intended to finish the rumbling at 100%, he only knew he’d lose when he became the founder, before that when he kissed historias hand he only saw what grisha was shown by future eren, which is the rumbling happening, his talk with ramzi, his fight for freedom outweighs everything else, he knows it’s wrong, he knows he shouldn’t do it, but he did it, and he was consumed by his dream because he knew he’d be defeated, and by the way the timeline of aot is fixed, so if the future is set, it can’t be changed, giving someone like eren the ability to see in the unchangable future, someone that seeks freedom the most is truly tragic, because at the end, he realized that he can’t change anything, and when he talks to armin in the paths, he lies to him telling him that he did this for them, just like Reiner told eren “to save the world” as an excuse for his actions, but then Reiner tells eren the truth “I wanted to finish the mission, I wanted to be a hero” just like eren at the end confesses to armin “I just wanted to do it” all eren ever wanted is his own selfish desire of seeing the empty free world in armins book that’s what freedom meant to eren, and that’s shown clearly in the anime and the manga first he thought if he just defeats the titans he’s gonna have that freedom, the empty free world, but when he saw that it’s not like that, and there are people outside the wall, he got frustrated and viewed them as enemies, he wanted to destroy them to gain his freedom, but even after eren slept under the same roof, are the same food, he realized that the people in Marley are no different from the people in the walls, and that’s why he tells Reiner “I’m the same as you” it’s because Reiner was once in the same situation, he loved his new friends, he realized that they are not devils and just good people but he decided to go with his selfish desire anyway, just like Reiner had his own selfish desire eren has his aswell and he’s gonna do the same as him, destroy his enemies , eren breaking down in front of armin was just a result of regret, he wanted to live, he didn’t want to be consumed by his dream, but he knows it’s over for him
DMS I already knew some of this but I wouldn’t have gotten it without this video ruclips.net/video/H6GmVCD7cxk/видео.html He really explained erens character and aot as a whole really well, you should really watch it, and share it
But was there any other way else? Armin peaceful thinking seemed like the king fritz belief, and even the king discarded his own people when Reiner and Berthold attacked. It seemed like the king thought it was for the best for his minority to be killed for the greater good. His own people!! How about tge Yeagerist? They wanted the tyrannt eldian empire back to control the world. Marley? They were being controlled by the war hammer titan for his own selfish desire to claim the founding titan and risked the peace to get it. No one, no nation deeply desired the titan powers to be gone or the conflict to end. A horrible enslavement that lasted two thousands years old. It didn’t really mattered of Eren killed all humanity or not. There could have been two antagonist or three, seven or hundreds or thousands willingly trying to kill everyone till nothing is left. I don’t see Eren as evil, just somebody deeply depressed after knowing everything. Could Erwin also wished the same conclusion if he was alive, after seeing his people’s memories wiped and getting slaughtered and invaded again and again and to finish this was there had to be a major sacrifice? I don’t know. Look at it this way, take away the titan power and placed Nuclear power or viruses instead. What I am saying, no one life is equal to a hundred or more and vice versa. Eren wasn’t selfish because he didn’t get what he wanted. Everyone else was by using the titan power and it led them to their doom.
BatKKKsman it’s not about there’s no other way, Eren didn’t do the rumbling because he needed to, he did it because he wanted to, ruclips.net/video/H6GmVCD7cxk/видео.html watch this eren analysis, it’s gonna help you understand everything
@@Wind_God11 ye I mean agree with u. His desire was intense but that wasn't the only reason. Read how horrified he is when he realised he couldn't change the future. I wouldn't call eren an evil guy, just pathetic and weak who fell slave to his destiny. And I mean we can't throw all blame on eren too
The reveal of the Colossal and Armored titans is even better because you can miss them saying anything to Eren because it isn't the focus of the scene. The rest of the Scouts chatting about Ymir is.
Bad? no, Eren is a character with absolute confidence in himself and his being to determine what is right for him; that being the protective role in maintaining his freedom, he knows to take from others in retaliation to what they take from him, this personality has always been embedded into the Eren we know today, even since childhood. He is selfish, yet honourable. He is not one to take your freedom, but more than willing if you were to do the exact same to him, he is no different than any person in Marley, nor the world. And honestly who could blame him? Truly, we’re all the same in heart [we all have an Eren inside of us].Eren had just as much justification to massacre the world than the world had to his people.
@@animefreak8718 Eren's done what is right for him at the expense of thousands of innocent lives. He even killed children who obviously had nothing to do with any of the marley politics. Seriously, how can you think eren is least bit honourable? He's that one stupid kid who starts school shooting and murdering random people because he got beaten by a bully.
There is no good or bad in AOT world. Morals just go outta the window. Its all about perspective. The world of AOT was trash and Eren rightfully viewed it as so.
Bro, this video makes me want to travel back in time to my younger self, and show my younger self this video and enjoy his fascination toward it. Because you kind sir, have done an excellent job with this. Thank you.
Thinking about Eren in the context of the world as a whole is grim but, honestly very compelling. What we have is the unending cycle of violence, of wielding power for not only selfish reasons but seeing swaths of people enable those with power and twisted minds to do what they please perhaps out of fear, out of the notion that they’ll be alone and die alone, or risk abandoning the people they love to an even worse fate. The people who live on the mainland can’t be faulted for living their lives, not even the average Marleyan citizen, after all we’re all special and have value because we are simply born and live here. They didn’t deserve to be flattened, and we can see that as they passed a crying baby into each other’s hands to ensure they would be the only ones to be crushed under the colossal titans. Their hate however would doom Paradis to repeated wars and invasions regardless of what they did, taking it lying down, only bluffing the use of the rumbling, or exclusively crushing the alliance. But the entire world didnt deserve to go for that hate. It was a failure to let go of that hate though, from everyone who could’ve stood up knowing they’d succeed with unity and numbers, to the ones in power whether in Marley, Hizuru, Paradis, who knew things that would’ve saved lives and chose to let people die. When people’s fears and hatred guide their action AND their inaction, we create the devils that we imagine our opposition to be. Not just the ones inside each of us, but that perfect one, who won’t pull back like many of us would after realizing where this takes us. Eventually we’ll give way to someone born to be that person who doesn’t yield and causes more distraction than we could’ve even wanted in our angriest and most fearful state. Because we thought making good choices was beyond bad people. Eren is the way he is not just for being born, but also being sculpted by everything from King Fritz, to even the Tybur family’s refusal to use their power and help the Eldians in Marley at least so their children stop getting fed to dogs. What else would someone so immediately volatile want? And yet he still realizes what he did was wrong. At the core of even the most rotten person is still a person, not necessarily to sympathize with but to understand.
I just realized something, eren breaking out of Zeke’s chains, represents him sacrifing a big part of himself to become free, and doing anything he can to chase it (Ymir)
again, Eren didnt see all of the future when he kissed historias hand he doesnt have royal blood, he cant use the attack titan like that, he saw his DADS memories of the future (which are memories from the PAST), that he, in the future hand picked, that we know were incomplete and lacking he knew a few key plot points (the rumbling for instance), but he didnt even know the crucial plot point of marley attacking paradis full force
@@evanpowers6045 No. He did not know he would be stopped until he got full access to the founder's power. He flattened the world because that fit his view of freedom. A world for him to explore, free of prejudice.
@@evanpowers6045 he didn’t know he’d be stopped until after he started the rumbling otherwise he would have told historia since he had no reason not to
An important thing about the moment Eren kisses Historia hand is that he doesn't see all the future, but he only sees the future his father saw. That's interesting to know because there were many things he didn't know would happen, like Sasha. He only knew about everything when he got in contact with Zeke.
imo, Eren could be a manifestation of Ymir's willing to be free, she used Eren as a lock and Mikasa as the key in the end, but Eren always was himself, even in the very beggining, when he talks to Hannes, you can see his intentions and his mind even not being tainted by any titan influences
I love Eren as a character. Sure I found the ending lackluster, it was kinda turn off after all that development from him. But after reading it few times, it sinks. He was layered with his desire for freedom and protecting his friends. His sanity has been constantly pushed to the brink and it just hits the brink at the end. You may hate him , like him , cringe at him for what he did and what affect his action had or not, but as a character he's brilliantly written
In that line on the beginning when I first heard it, I seriously thought he was talking about Erwin Smith. And it makes me think that Erwin and his beliefs are what inspired so many to keep fighting. That’s what made him my favorite character
I think you are wrong about Mikasa's decision. It wouldn't change anything because Eren already has seen what has happened and that couldn't be changed. This was his way of testing it and cutting ties with her. After that he was acting differently towards her and wasn't honest. He showed her in paths what the other outcome could have been, but that outcome was a lie because he couldn't live like that.
I don’t get why everyone is so confused by what Eren did, literally the only other option was for him and his people to ALL die, in that situation and from what we know about eren, Is the ANYYYYY version of him that would really choose to lay down and die
I really don't care about anything Eren does in the last 2 seasons, for me he's been the villain since episode 1. NOTHING justifies the pleasure he feels when he's killing. Attack on School Castes confirms to the public that in a peaceful world, without Titan's powers, Eren's only desire is blood and war. Something I already knew from episode 1. Without the power of protagonism he would be any serial killer within the walls...
@@nicolasoliveira4903 I disagree, as you can see when eren apoligizes to ramzi he does not feel pleasure at all, even when he saved mikasa from the men who murdered her parents he just did it to save her as you can see from his tears. In the last anime episode he says that the only reason he would do something like this would be when someone privates him or his friends from their freedom
@@Salvatore_Plaia So, if Hitler says he did everything he did, fighting for the freedom of his people, is that all right? So technically he would be a hero? stop the cap. This freedom talk is some bullshit he made up after he met Armin. Mikasa was just some random girl he didn't even know, the extra stabs he gave one of the guys was extremely unnecessary, do not try to justify that. Just because someone has committed a crime doesn't give me the right to do anything against that person. Interestingly the thousands of girls he killed in the end don't matter? You keep inventing justifications to sympathize with Hitler.
Eren thoughts evolved with the series but in the end, he was always selfish. It was always about what he wanted. He wanted freedom, he wanted to venture outside the walls, he wanted to protect his friends and he did not care if others died for it. Thats why he joined the scouts in the first place. So many of them died when they went outside but it was a price he was willing to pay as he would get what he wanted. Everytime he messed up, people died to recover him. It was perfectly clear during the titan choice between Erwin and Armin. We knew these characters so we know Erwin was tired and Armin was his potential succesor but they didnt. Eren just wanted to save his friend OVER HIS COMMANDER. He say the good and bad in people, he realised how there is a good and bad inside everybody but in the end, was still selfish to what he wanted(save his friends and revenge for being locked up inside those walls and people looking down on them) and it was worth sacrificing the entire earth for him(even though he felt the evil in his conscious). Which makes him such a cool character because unlike others, he knows what he is doing is evil and actually feels it in his conscious but does it nonetheless).
I would have to disagree with you on the "paths" part. History did happen once, that's how Eren got to where he is. And then, a slightly different history happened a second time, where Eren's father was shown a portion of Eren's memories. Zeke also came to that conclusion. Well, I still loved this video. It was a very good analysis.
Eren hates all titans. What is Eren? A Titan. Eren hates those who are attacking his home; the eldian warriors. What is Eren? An Eldian. Eren hates his enemies across the sea that would attack his home. What is Eren? An enemy from across the sea that attacks people’s homelands. Eren hates slaves. What is Eren? A slave to his own ideology to keep moving forward. A slave to his own future. Eren is a Titan. Eren is an Eldian. Eren is the enemy. Eren is a slave. (Much like Ymir the founder) Eren is the enslaved attack Titan, who can’t stop moving forward. When Eren appears to be at most in control of his own destiny is in fact the point in time after which he has seen his own fate and becomes a slave to it. Moving forward. Slow clap for Isayama.
The concept of Erens specific ability to see and manipulate time is fucking terrifying. Because he doesn’t ever really get one where he wins. It’s like Dr.Strange and when he looks at ways to beat Thanos, except here in AOT there isn’t even 1 good option for him. He had to live the rest of his days not only knowing he would die, but being the one to manipulate himself to it from since he was a child.
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@@-gj3nu there many who do that actually, you are missing out.
I like how Eren ponders on the idea of what his own mother would think of him for doing what he did killing 80% of humanity. It's rather tragic he himself knows what he is doing is wrong but is doing it for the right causes to liberate his own people. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Eren is def in my top 3 best anime protagonists of all time.
I don’t think it was paved with good intentions, probably a little. He did it because he wanted to, he even tells Armin that at the end. He didn’t know he would be stopped before he started the rumbling because wiping out 80% of the population won’t solve that much at all. He developed and matured as a character but at the end he was still the immature pathetic Eren, just like Armin said.
@@simonkuiters3180 i think "good intentions" might have been a part of it but not as large as "he wanted to do it"
@@simonkuiters3180 good point. And if you think about it the collosal titans fucked up a lot of the eco system by not just trampling on everything but the steam they emit from their large bodies definitely caused a lot of environmental damage. All the destroyed buildings and roads, etc would take a lot of money to rebuild probably billions easily.... like eren really did a big oopsie tbh.
@@simonkuiters3180 he only wanted to do the rumbling because the rest of the world wanted him dead. Eren wasn’t disappointed that the rest of the world wasn’t empty, but that they all wanted him dead so I feel like that’s why he said fuck it and wanted to destroy the world. I think it’s a bit of an over simplification to say he just did it cause he wanted too. Eren was backed into a corner and rebelled against the world in his own selfish and fucked up way but I don’t think it’s as simple as he just wanted to level the whole world
@@simonkuiters3180 So Isayama lied to the audience?
I actually like having the end of this show spoiled for me because now, like eren, i know exactly whats coming and im just waiting for it to happen
Yoooo thats a good way of putting it!
Honestly now I don’t feel upset that I was spoiled. Thank you.
That's a nice way to look at being spoiled ngl
That’s actually.. yeah that makes so much sense
I heard someone say that the anime might have a different, original ending different from the Manga. And somehow both will still be Canon.
I think it was confirmed by the author that eren was not always wanting to see outside the walls. He didn't want to see outside the walls until armin came to him with the book when they were kids. He looked in to armin's eyes and realized he wasn't "free". That's when he started to chase this "freedom". And I think it's plausible because of you look back at it eren wasnt always seeking "freedom". I've would always used to look at the wall and just wished something would happen. He was always loathing
No what u think is not canon, he killed robbers to save Mikasa when he was like 11, he has always sought freedom, even if Armin didn't show him the book, he still hated the Titans for keeping humanity locked inside the walls and he always had a natural curiosity to go outside the walls which he would want to do even if he never met Armin. A person's desires that are that strong are not obtained from someone else showing u a book, lol, that's something that's in your nature or something you are born with.
@@thefunshackwars5418 No, you are wrong. Go reread chapter 73, Eren saids and I quote: “I had never thought about what was beyond the walls until then… I’d only spent my days looking at the clouds in the sky.” Of course the quote is much longer than this but I’m not going to write it all. Is in Eren’s nature to seek freedom but he didn’t know about it until he saw Armin’s book.
@@gus_supreme0928 I agree. He discovered his nature because of Armin.
@@thefunshackwars5418 bruh thats why I say re read the stories that has small details into it,ch73 literally says it all
@@thefunshackwars5418 I would like to think that Eren was pushed by adult Eren to kill those robbers. If not then young Eren had some serious mental issues. But I guess we will never know
The choice to commit genocide was made for him. When he kissed historia’s hand, he didn’t see a possible future out of a million like Dr. Strange; he saw THE future. There are no branching timelines and there was no way to change the outcome of his fate. He’s more like the greek tragic figure oedipus, being told of the terror that awaits him and then immediately being rocketed towards it. Eren mentions many times that he can’t help but go through the motions or fight against the decisions that led him to the rumbling. Almost implying that something else was in control. Had he lived longer, he might have realized he was a character in a manga who’s writer has already drafted his story’s end. Sometimes real life seems that way.
Multiple timelines were confirmed with the Attack On School Castes cameos of Gothkasa and Nerdmin.
@@phothewin6019 That's a joke. Why would you consider it as part of the main story lol
@@sirprahlegod3940 Because they literally showed them in the one of the Paths scenes. They are officially canon, meaning multiple timelines.
@@phothewin6019 Yes but their inclusion does nothing for the story. They are included because manga fans would recognize them and think it's funny. If this timeline was canon it would ruin so much of the story. This "multiple timelines" are often drawn as a gag at the end of a chapter like baggy pants Leon. Also they are just included in the anime, when I want the true canon story I go to the story drawn by the actual author.
@@sirprahlegod3940 Even if their inclusion did nothing for the story (which isn't the case), that doesn't mean something isn't canon. Also, this _is_ in the manga (Chapter 120). This isn't anime original content. It is _officially_ canon. Isayama isn't some hack author who does things without purpose and intent. He wouldn't ruin such an integral moment of the story for easter egg lulz. Every frame, every line of dialogue has been meticulously crafted throughout the entire story. That's why AOT has some of the greatest foreshadowing in fiction, period. It isn't at all uncommon for stories dealing with time travel in some way, shape, or form to use multiple timelines or multiverses; it's a natural progression.
For what Eren has proven again and again: His power comes from his rage... when he loses his sense of humanity. We've seen Eren in end of his journey in manga much different. He didn't seem angry. More like out of his mind, unchallenged and tired. He was tired of the madness that he was letting himself to do. He had the power to change the tide of world, but he seemed to have lost all motivation to stay angry. It was same thing what happened when he was being rescued by Historia, or encouraged by Misaka.
Would he ever... ever find enough courage to give himself to push forward, alone?
@Parizal badass Stop the Cap. Eren wants blood, thats the on goal for him. He dont care about nothing Else. You need to Read Attack on School castes, he want blood.
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Eren dismantled the anime protagonist trope quite well because at the end of the day so many anime protagonists are children who refuse to grow up and refuse to let the world consume and shape them. Eren is a perfect example of how catastrophic it would be if you let an anime protagonist with anime power run free in a real world. 80% of the world died. Sure his friends survive and become heroes (except 1) and there may be a shaky, vague idea of world peace, but again 80% of the world died. I find it interesting too when other anime explored this. In the new Dragon Ball Super series there was a moment when Goku hesitated to kill Frieza and Frieza destroyed Earth along with everyone Goku loves. Of course Goku was saved from this mistake by literally deus ex machina, however Goku has been known to value the thrill of a fight over the objective of the fight itself (aka defeat evil and protect the weak). He has been taught this is a bad idea a few times yet often ignore the lesson. So yeah the lesson here is if we let Goku being the protector of Earth the Earth would literally be obligated because he is addicted to a “fair” fight. Much like letting an idealistic man child possess life shaping power ended very badly for 80% of people in AoT universe.
I have stopped counting how many times goku let's earth be destroyed just to fight more.
Its a reflection of the weakness in humans and how attached to our nature we are. Eren is a great example of being a slave to his nature, just like an addict who knows the choices they make are wrong and self-destructive, they will still choose the wrong decision because its the only way they know how to feel alive. Just as Kenny said as he died: " Everyone had to be drunk on something to keep pushing on. Everyone was a slave to something."
I thought Eren was a brilliant character. He is honestly my favourite character. Also brilliant video! 🔥
Eren said to ymir: you are not a god or slave, just a person.
We need to think about eren in the same way.
Yeah, he is a psychoanalytical case study, just like you and I and everyone else in the world.
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The reason why Mikasa decided to confess during that obviously very dangerous and grim moment is she thought that they were finally going to die, (seriously, like for real this time, no escape, no 3dm gear, no titan power to help them out of that fucked situation, if you don't count the coordinate power which eren didn't know he actually had that time) and she will never have the chance to do it. She wanted to comfort eren, convince him that he was actually not useless (like some people say). Eren NEVER was useless for me too. Then she leans for her first and supposedly LAST kiss for Eren, and Eren actually understood what Mikasa meant and what she was trying to do with that kiss, "she was giving up on life" with that kiss. This made Eren remember what his mother was telling him about also being always there for Mikasa, so if he accepts Mikasa's kiss then it would just mean that he was accepting their current situation, their fate, their inevitable death, and this would break his promise to his mom, contradicting what he always told Mikasa to never back down and fight. So he stood up, the kiss can always wait later, and this time he always be there for Mikasa.
Nah isayama was just too shy to draw a kiss scene
Wait later untill he becomes a cut off head, dont know if its humor or horror.
I like this insight, got chills
@@n1ght7ngale Lmao yeah
"Contradicting what he said to Mikasa about not backing down"
Wait.. So AOT and Eren was just a giant Nick Eh 30 "never back down, never give up" shit post?
" You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain ". This actually fits here
Wrong, Eren was always the villain.
As if eren would let eren die a hero
@@nicolasoliveira4903 your determinism is showing lol
is he tho? the world is morally grey so i couldnt really pin the blame on any of them that includes reiner and the warriors eren maybe became the villain for the rest of the world but for paradis and the eldians hes basically their lord and savior so its kinda hard to pin him as just some “villain”
@@ppqqek I disagree. If you think the whole world would try to destroy paradis, you have no brain. More than 100 years that no one attacked is proof enough. "but Marley this and Marley that" Fuck Marley, I'm not including them in the conversation. I'm talking about all the nations that were destroyed without even knowing why. "but the whole world hates them, Eren said" Eren is retarded and his opinion doesn't matter, I'm talking about the events SHOWN in the anime, not about possible interpretations of Tibur's speech, which by the way wasn't even completed.
Also, I like to add something, Reiner and Marley would've loved to kill everyone on Paradis Island. If Eren didn't go all out, they would have died and the world would celebrate their death. How is it a large population lives weigh more than those a few lives on Paradise? Why shouldn't Eren fight back? I guess the main villain of the story isn't Eren or the titans or Marley, it's human nature of war. They kill so many lives and you think they have the conscious to stop from murdering everyone. I don't agree with what Eren did, but whose to choose otherwise? Fight back the invasion over and over again? Enslave other people and nations to your cause? Bring back the horrible Eldia empire? Initiate world war? Or just ignore the fact and help the pathetic king erase ur memory and leave u ignorant of everything as he waits and never fight back? Everybody is at fault. Eren isn't the devil, he's just human.
This was really well said man. Everybody constantly judged Eren for his choice of genocide but nobody ever talks about the fact Marley was intent on committing genocide on him and his people first and were gonna go through with it no matter what. They expect paradis to lay down and die because they are the smaller population but that is just silencing and invalidating the minority. They had every right to fight back and after the atrocities marley committed on them I really can’t blame anybody for reacting how they chose to react. It’s easy to say what “the right” thing to do is but in their world they’ve been thrown in a hopeless situation and people do crazy shit when their back is against the world
@@EBWASupahMilian I like ur thoughts. I always found it abhorring that the king of the wall reacted unemotionally when Reiner and Berthold destroyed the wall, like she was willingly allowing them to kill her own people because of crimes of their ancestors which they didn't commit. A hundred lives isn't greater than one, in my opinion. Everybody have people they love more than anybody else. Eren's act was selfless because he never intended to resurrect the old tyranny Eldian empire as his newly comrades The Yeagerist. He wished this conflict to end one way or another. He didn't know for sure but he had to follow the path till the end. I see the ending of this story was like sending a message; something horrible is approaching that'll consume the whole humanity if they do not act quickly to prevent it, and that is human selfishness. Their desire for wealth and conquer. Anyway I wished people don't put all the blame on Eren, believing that there was other peaceful solutions. There was peace at the beginning with the king's inaction and it lasted for a while.
@@sasa162525 yea man like they’ve said before in the story “it’s a cruel world” Eren had the balls too commit the ultimate sin rather than lay down and die. Armin was completely useless going on and on about talking it out when Marley and the rest of the world have no intention of hearing them out and plan on killing them regardless of if they’re actually good innocent people or not. A lot of people jumped ship when they realized Paradis was the minority in the world but I’ve always hated the idea that “there are no bad guys” in AOT when the Marley govt (not the eldian warrior cadets) are 100% the bad guys when you really think about it. Paradis didn’t know they existed until 4 years prior to the end and Marley had been sending their own people in the form of man eating mindless beasts to commit endless atrocities against them. Paradis is only reacting to the way the rest of the world treats them I don’t see how they can possibly be seen as the bad guys. The first king of the walls chose peace and warned them about the rumbling but Marley’s greed and desire for the founding Titan created a monster (eren) and plunged the whole world into darkness
@@EBWASupahMilian Exactly. And if you recall, Marley was manipulated by the war hammer titan. He wanted the founding titan and risked eliminating the peace to get it. They never intended to uphold the peace for long and the king never desired to fight back once they did. I also see the appeal from Marley or any normal nations to eliminate the eldian but still keep the titan power for their own weapon. The eldian empire was fallen because of the civil war. Man, this story just keeps getting better each time I think about it. I go back to chapter 97 when Eren first introduced talking to Falco. It's a great speech and hits many facts about life and death.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking! Of course I don’t agree with genocide but let’s be honest, give any nation the power to wipe out their enemies at no risk to themselves and they’d probably do it. If during WW2 the allies had been given the power to wipe nazi germany and all its allies off the map with no possible consequences it would have at least been seriously considered. Given eren’s circumstances I can’t judge him for what he chose, being an immature person who loved his friends and having being raised with an us versus them mindset from the time he was a child, never having evolved from this mindset made his choice inevitable. Human nature is the true villain, and everyone, including eren were simply victims to it.
The best part about Eren is while he believes he is free, everything else is telling you he isn't. Visual clues like his head being held up by strings and his founding titan resembling a marionette, as well as the fact that he cannot see all the horrors he is committing due to his real eyes being closed and his child form's view being blocked by the smoke. It just shows again how twisted he is. He believes this is freedom but its genocide, and he is a slave to committing that genocide since he by nature just has to do it. Therefore, as the perpetrator, he is a slave to himself.
I am pretty sure he can see what he done since he apologized to Ramzi for what he know what would happen to them in the future.
Philosophically speaking one cannot be truely free if one cant commit a genocide if one wants to be free one needs the freedom to do that, freedom from everything including morality, life death anything, freedom.
@@Cecilia-ky3uw So basically the truest form of freedom is to not exist?
@@robbieaulia6462 I do not believe in free will
@@robbieaulia6462 As long as you're attached to morals/values you're basically a slave to something so yeah. Remembers me of what Canute thought of love too
It’s kinda funny looking back on the whole series that started with a boy who wanted to kill the titans for the sake of his people’s freedom, and ended with that same boy killing all the titans and freeing paradis just not the way anyone ever intended
Aahh that time, when i think colossal titan is the last boss
@@ikrycesarohalim3200
First we thought the Colossal Titan was the final boss.
Then we thought the Beast Titan was the final boss.
Then we thought the nation of Marley was the final boss.
None of us could have predicted that Eren himself would become the final boss.
“Freeing Paradis” lol. More like burdening Paradis with never ending war. Please, Re-Read the story before watching videos like this that uses misinterpretations/headcanons to justify Eren’s character assassination.
@@andrewendless8 But Paradis was free (for some time after), the fact that centuries after the fact there's a war going on at the very least shows that Paradis survived and obviously that includes the people Eren wanted to protect most. There is no permanent solution for freedom for any side; even a complete rumbling would eventually lead to internal strife within the Island given the same amount of time passing. Solving war for eternity isn't something any one person could achieve, and the way it was done is definitely not ideal; but the choice to at least try using the rumbling on the entire world fit Eren's motivations.
Now This man knows how to tell em straight Eren Yeager is a masterpiece of a main character. Just try to change my mind
Eren is a full blown psychopath. And I think that's what makes him such a fascinating and captivating character: our main protagonist is a 'Violent Psychopath' and nobody starts to realize it until it's too late.
@@DeadmanInc336 I think everyone is a psychopath in aot 💀
@@shantanutoraskar428 they're either sociopaths, psychopaths, or suffer from PTSD or other forms of mental illness.
@@DeadmanInc336 psychopath don't show remorse for their actions lmao. Eren countless shown remorse lmao
@@aamarmohammed7526 how are we sure of that and it's not just him faking remorse? Psychopaths are able to fake emotions.
I usually don’t have main characters as my favorites, but in this case eren is my favorite is aot. The author took a big risk and did it right. Eren and Guts are the only main characters who are my favorites in their anime.
When you realise that Eren was a protaganist and whole world was antagonist
This takes man vs world to a whole new level.
In a way what you said is true, but it doesn't change the fact he's a bad guy
@@toshafromt31tch protaganist can be a bad guy though...
@@yeagerist3056 That's what i said. Sorry if my comment wasn't comprehensible
@@toshafromt31tch There are no good or bad guys in AOT world, its all about perspective.
People that hate on AOT just because it's popular are sorely mistaken and missing out. You can acknowledge something is good even if you don't like it. I don't like mech anime but there are a lot of good ones out there.
4:30 Not the first time for Eren. Remember when he had to kill 2 people to save Mikasa's life? or 5 years prior when his mom was eaten infront of him lol. I love these scenes because I get to see where the lessons deeply engrained into him came from. Im no doctor but this is definetly in his formative years, so this event would have more of a lasting impact on his character for the rest of his life than if it happened later. "You have to fight to win" "you'll die if you don't win". No wonder he ended up being so relentless for the rest of the series, he learned very early life is an all in game. The foundations for his character are just so solid, I love it.
The best analysis of Eren Jaeger on RUclips. Thank you for diving so deep into the story that you not only understood it for all its beauty but for mastering it enough to present it so well and so succinctly. Much love friend you have a new subscriber and major fan!
When u think about it.. He was so close to consuming Annie, Porco, Reiner and even Buthurttoo if Zeke and Pieck didnt come to rescue them. Imagine that dude with 7 titan powers.
I love how no one can spell Bethlehems name lmao
Is it bertholdt???
did i finally say his name right?
@@RARYWASNOTHERE you did it!!!
Well, no. I agree with most of this but he didn’t come anywhere close to eating Annie lol. Not only was her crystallizing inevitable, Levi would cut him out of his nape before he even could
@@coltondraws6566 I mean, he was close. Anime happened the way it happened, and all of those i mentioned up there are "CLOSE - what ifs".. and he was close if she didnt harden or levi wasnt there or late..
2:36 a character that was written for a story... actually fits the story. absolutely brilliant. it’s almost like the character was written for the story.
he wrote himself in the story
@@maskajunior9675 or he wrote himself writing himself in the story
@@josha618 or he’s wrote the himself writing the story that wrote him writing his story.
This is such an underrated channel. Amazing Video!
I believe that Eren as a character never changed. He literally behaves like a child until the end, selfish and envious. Especially in the scene with Armin in the Paths at the end, he shows his true colours. Or when he's talking to Ramzi before literally stepping on the kid. He wanted all of it to happen. I've snooped around the entirety of the internet and this theory is the most plausible. Things seem to line up. And although it's hard for me to accept that this character stayed the same only having thrown a new set of paint, it makes sense. He wanted his freedom and only saw it in a flattened and empty world, and so, enslaved to his own dream and his own wish, he kept chasing his freedom. I feel that Eren hates himself for what he is doing, but after seeing Armins book and later the cellar he wants to do it. But he knows he will loose so he makes the best out of it, making his friends heroes by killing him, although if he could have had it differently, he surely would have done it so. (Btw the new anime OP and ED very much foreshadow this fact - aka Eren being shown as a child for a majority of both songs)
This is all great besides the part where you said he wanted to lose because eren says to armin that he didn't know he was going to lose. But this a good comment either way
@@davidjones-jj2kd i just wanted to clarify that. Do you know where exactly in the manga he says that to Armin?
@@Romang227 Ok, what I stated was worded wrong. I met that he didn't know he was going to lose, he just knew he was going to activate the rumbling before. People get's misconcepted by the fact eren say in the future. He saw into his dad's past and since eren was going to activate the rumbling in a inevitable fate, The future inheriter will be eren his future's will shard his future with his dad. The founding titan's power is to see through both past and future but people get confused that it isn't seperate, it's corresponding at the same time. Eren only saw what his future self would tell him and what he did, which was activate the rumbling,. If eren knew he was going to be stopped he could've just used the rumbling titans to protect the island for 50 years like armin suggested but he contiuned to keep moving forward like he future self would do later on. In aot there is one fate that is caused by past actions. If one were to know the future they would have to follow what they were shown because no matter what option you do, other people's past actions will effect them. In chapter 123 where eren gets to see all possible futures, that's when he realized he would be stopped. Before he activated the rumbling so his friends can be safe from everyone from the world but then realize his demise so he pushed forward so his friend's can kill him and be honored for killing the founding titan, and stopping the curse of titans. So no one will harm them anymore. You can tell eren knew it at that moment because in chapter 139 when armin ask him will the war stop he doesn't respond and changes the subject. that's all
you were right tho so my bad
@@davidjones-jj2kd i didn't mean to disagree with you! You were right from the beginning about Eren being unaware of his demise until he acticated the Rumbling, it's just I didn't see it being explicitly mentioned in the manga by characters. But yes though, it makes sense
the rumbling and paths arc are one of the greatest arcs ive seen in fiction
Not One Of The Best Arcs in Fiction
THE Best Arcs in Fiction
Eren is the new Shinji. Many people hate him, but he's a great character. Great video.
who shinji bro? That might be a banger so lemme know
@@BeardedWolfKing From Evangelion
Eren is the best example of: You became the very thing you swore to destroy. But that's just for the first part of season 1. His character developed a lot, changing from a 10 year old naive and still learning bastard to a serious 19 year old (obsessed with freedom) guy.
Attack titan do be fucking his mind up tho
@@tortellium3750 yeah lol
But he had no development
@@evanpowers6045 you on drugs
@@evanpowers6045 he is one of the characters who got the best character development
Eren just wanted to create the world he saw in Armin's book...that's his selfish kiddish desire that he could never let go of...131 establishes this wonderfully
He read Mein Kampf
Erens been my fav since chapter 1
Me too, he is the G.O.A.T and i don't care what anyone says
@@rorschach936 same here
For me naw. Eren was so clear cut chapter 1 but what he has become is so different.
@@fightmight4906 his story was interesting from the very start but somewhere he got lost cuz people start to recognize other factors like levi chadness
Is so good to find people with same opinions
I think that Eren was aware that Armin could possibly die but had hope that he wouldn’t, as Armin was the one who in recent times, had inspired eren to keep going, talking about seeing the sea together, so when Armin sacrificed himself to make the plan work, Eren wasn’t shocked by his bravery but by his sacrifice, which Isayama perfectly parallels with Erwin’s sacrifice of not being able to see the basement. Eren dragging Bertholdt’s dismembered body to Armin’s charred body feels like a state of shock because he can’t fathom that his best friend is lying dead in front of him. Thankfully he wasn’t, but he clings to that hope of saving Armin when Levi brings the serum and when Levi effectively gives up on Armin, it’s not shocking that Eren gets pissed. I am constantly astonished at the way Isayama crafted this story, it’s truly amazing and this was an amazing video.
When Eren realized that racism from around the world towards Eldians will never end, he knew that the only way to achieve freedom was by exterminating everyone outside of the walls.
It's heart wretching that Eren still has a human heart like a normal teenage boy despite being a born monster that destroy everything if it's the sake of freedom.
A sad story of a boy who was born with that nature, which will never be justified by anyone including himself.
The further I progressed into the video it made me cry more. I don't know how to thank you for providing such an amazing point of view and making me understand AOT better than before
Eren is effectively the anti-Shinj.
He was obsessed with conflict and brainwashed his own dad.
Based
I like to imagine that the Manga version of AoT is one of the past lives Eren had during the time loop. And the anime is another attempt, and we get to see his life all over again, but the ending of the anime *can* change
i hope so 🙂
Cope.
There's no signs of a time loop
1:14 my man’s got 10-pack abs of course he’s the goat
Glad someone actually understands Eren
It was a another wonderful video you deserve atleast 100k sub's
Man you don’t even know how much that means to me thank you 💙
Yeah ikr
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I agree with this, if u recall in the episode where we see Erens father talking to the attack Titan aka the owl. The owl said something interesting, "we need to protect Mikasa and Armin" or smth like that. And when Erens father asked him what he meant the owl said he didn't know. This could also tie into the fact that the attack Titan can see into the future. It's up to u to decide. I just thought it was an interesting part.
Well yes that's the Attack Titan's unique ability, that its inheritors can access past and future memories. Kruger didn't know who's memories he was seeing though
Love you and thanks for making this masterpiece of an analysis
Eren did not see all of the future, only parts of it. He knew he'd succeed in activating the rumbling and get the founder's powers but he did not know how.
Yes so true!!! I don't think he knew that Sasha or hange would die he only saw bits and pieces
Parts of a future?? Then Eren was Raiden from Mortal Kombat. Only with no "He must win"
I would wager Mikasa in Eren's life was a constant reminder once he gained the power of the Attacking Titan that love is impossible for him and that freedom was taken away. He only had 13 years to live, majority of it was to enact revenge on the Titans. Mikasa's own freedom qas tied towards Eren in many ways for he is all she has in this world and most of it is all in a time of strife. Ymir also needed Mikasa to set this endless cycle of "regret" go for Eren and Mikasa mirror the king and her. I say this because Ymir was devoted towards the king because he "saved"" her from a life of tournament. However wrong this king was he did show us that mindset of how Mikasa because Eren saved her causes her also to devote herself to him. Only now however Eren unlike the king loves Mikasa because she is the beauty and freedom he didn't get to experience for the book Armin showed Eren wasn't like anything outside the walls. Which in the other path if Eren and Mikasa ran away to be happy he held no regret for choosing Mikasa but more of the fact Mikasa would be alone and their world doomed to be killed by the world. He lamets that he put people through hell yet did his best to spare Mikasa and that is why Ymir is interested in these 2 for their love will doom the world in every reality set in until they stop thinking about finding a way to prevent that scenario of Mikasa killing Eren. In every headache Mikasa gets it is Eren from the future bring Mikasa into the paths were the 2 chose a path to be happy together with to give Mikasa a mental break of knowing she has to kill Eren as it is hinted in Ending 2 of AoT with the Mantis behind Mikasa for she was meant to behead her love as a female mantis eats the head of her mate as I recall.
This in itself causes the ova special to have Mikasa enter the path thanks to Ymir and Eren to see what chocies could have lead to Eren being "free" from the fate he was going to have. It sucks for Eren for he has seen when Mikasa at least would make the choice yet would awake from the paths in his younger self for the most precious memory he has is with Mikasa standing on that hill with the scarf he gave her to shield herself the pain Eren doesn't wish to cause for her as she suffered enough. However in the end she must go through that pain of loss with Eren gone and this is what sets him off to be bitter towards Mikasa for....
1. He can't protect her. Keep his promise to wrap the scarf around her again and again as many times as he wants because he has 13 years to live. The only way to end the curse is to kill the parasite inside of his body and by no means can he sinply get to have a happy ending.
2. Someone else will protect her, someone else will heal her scars, comfort her, replace him despite everything he had done for her yet can't be there in person.
3. He can't confess to Mikasa for by the time he does it Mikasa has made her choice and there is no point to as in the Paths he got that confession and knew only pain of it being stolen away because of time itself expiring for him.
4. He knows the world is cruel, knows that the book was a lie in somr aspects, and that the sins of everyone are placed on to his ability to cause a massive end to the bloodshed Ymir and the King caused to begin with. Despite that the world was beautiful to him because his friends made it beautiful, his family made it beautiful, and Mikasa above all made his mission the sole purpose of preserving that choice. Remember during Season 3 Mikasa and Eren are in the vally with the shadows looming over yet Mikasa brightens up Eren's world around him? Remember when Mikasa was going to die back in Trost yet because she was willing to do everything to live because only she can hold Eren's freedom of a beautiful world in her? That resulted in Eren going to Mikasa aid to protect his beautiful world in an epic fashion? Eren and Mikasa overall are the driving motivations for either side of the conflict of the story that endangers the lives of others as a result of themselves looking to be free from a life of sorrow set up by the cruel world around them, and yet Eren will sacrifice everything to still love Mikasa who embodied Eren's true freedom all this time as that scarf around her is their bond beyond time and space in which he kept her safe and now watches over her for no matter where he is as long as she calls out his name he'll embrace his "freedom" in as many times as she wants.
(Recommend listening to Call your Name, No matter where you are, ED 1 of AoT and current ED of AoT for Call and newest is from Eren's POV. However Mikasa's is No matter, and ED 1 that are both Answered towards one another respectfully. Much more in depth character for the both. :)
like kenny ackermann said, everyone is a slave to something. And Eren is a slave to freedom. Tell me that isnt the most ironic statement you have ever heard. He is captive to the idea of freedom and is willing to do anything to save his people on Pardis island. I dont blame him because as it stands the hatred the world has for Eldia runs so deep that diplomacy is a far fetched idea. All he can do is fight, just fight. Great writing!
Exactly I really like how ironic it is, and same with what one RUclipsr said, giving the guy whose obsessed with freedom the ability to see the future is poetic in a sense in the fact that they have no real freedom because they are in a deterministic timeline with no branching paths, he’s obsessed with freedom yet he knows not a single choice is really his
Wow, overall great video and analysis. You definitely deserve more recognition. Really helped me in understanding his character more and even cleared the misconceptions and questions I had about him in a fairly short but very informative video highlighting the true brilliance and great writing behind his character.
I used to be one of those ppl who thought he was "ruined" after the last chapter. That changed shortly tho cause I let go of that mindset and simply took him for the enjoyment he's given me but I still wanted to see videos like these and go over it once more and this one was really good. You have my SUB lmao
Eren was ruined but
There’s also “This video will change how you read Eren”
Great video also
It’s a head canon video
I agree
@@evanpowers6045 well sorta but also sorta not, the video infers a lot but doesn’t say anything that the manga refutes for a fact you what I mean
Your thumbnails are always incredible
I enjoyed this video so much. Hope your channel grows a lot from here on out.
Don't consider myself a aot fan, but from the moment I saw Eren I knee he was written with a bigger purpose in mind when most people I hear talking about him called him useless and annoying; even the worst protag ever. Now that the final arcs of the story are coming up that's when everyone was like "hes the greatest". Good vid man, really liked it and in glad people are noticing my boi Eren.
Like the editing style keep it up
This video was amazing, everything was on point!
I will watch the full video after the anime ends, but you made a great video with intresting points.
Welcome back bro 😤
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I don't think people should be taking sides when it comes to Eren's actions. I think it's enough to accept that Eren was a deeply complex character, and one that was surely a ride to follow. 138 always gets me. "What if?" What if Eren didn't do the Rumbling, just ran away from it all, and lived out his remaining life peacefully with the person he cared the most about? I have a wife, and the very thought of choosing to do all that or spend the precious last years of life with her... it's a no duh decision, but I think that is what Eren was thinking too. He's like Light Yagami, I feel a deep regret because I know what he might have been had he chosen a different path early on. It feels... so tragic.
out of every MC I've seen, Eren is definitely the best
*When eren admitted he liked mikasa in the end*
YOU CANT MAKE ME CRY LIKE THIS
YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT DAMN IT
There's so many factors, things, and ideas about life, that are portrayed by Eren.. he.. like most of us.. are shaped by memories. If I recall, many characters I know of that are being made aren't shaped by experiences in the same way actual humans are!!! Not to mention every choice he has to make. I like that he remained a kid all throughout his life
Just to make things clear, eren intended to finish the rumbling at 100%, he only knew he’d lose when he became the founder, before that when he kissed historias hand he only saw what grisha was shown by future eren, which is the rumbling happening, his talk with ramzi, his fight for freedom outweighs everything else, he knows it’s wrong, he knows he shouldn’t do it, but he did it, and he was consumed by his dream because he knew he’d be defeated, and by the way the timeline of aot is fixed, so if the future is set, it can’t be changed, giving someone like eren the ability to see in the unchangable future, someone that seeks freedom the most is truly tragic, because at the end, he realized that he can’t change anything, and when he talks to armin in the paths, he lies to him telling him that he did this for them, just like Reiner told eren “to save the world” as an excuse for his actions, but then Reiner tells eren the truth “I wanted to finish the mission, I wanted to be a hero” just like eren at the end confesses to armin “I just wanted to do it” all eren ever wanted is his own selfish desire of seeing the empty free world in armins book that’s what freedom meant to eren, and that’s shown clearly in the anime and the manga first he thought if he just defeats the titans he’s gonna have that freedom, the empty free world, but when he saw that it’s not like that, and there are people outside the wall, he got frustrated and viewed them as enemies, he wanted to destroy them to gain his freedom, but even after eren slept under the same roof, are the same food, he realized that the people in Marley are no different from the people in the walls, and that’s why he tells Reiner “I’m the same as you” it’s because Reiner was once in the same situation, he loved his new friends, he realized that they are not devils and just good people but he decided to go with his selfish desire anyway, just like Reiner had his own selfish desire eren has his aswell and he’s gonna do the same as him, destroy his enemies , eren breaking down in front of armin was just a result of regret, he wanted to live, he didn’t want to be consumed by his dream, but he knows it’s over for him
Great analysis could not agree more !!!
DMS I already knew some of this but I wouldn’t have gotten it without this video ruclips.net/video/H6GmVCD7cxk/видео.html
He really explained erens character and aot as a whole really well, you should really watch it, and share it
But was there any other way else? Armin peaceful thinking seemed like the king fritz belief, and even the king discarded his own people when Reiner and Berthold attacked. It seemed like the king thought it was for the best for his minority to be killed for the greater good. His own people!! How about tge Yeagerist? They wanted the tyrannt eldian empire back to control the world. Marley? They were being controlled by the war hammer titan for his own selfish desire to claim the founding titan and risked the peace to get it. No one, no nation deeply desired the titan powers to be gone or the conflict to end. A horrible enslavement that lasted two thousands years old. It didn’t really mattered of Eren killed all humanity or not. There could have been two antagonist or three, seven or hundreds or thousands willingly trying to kill everyone till nothing is left. I don’t see Eren as evil, just somebody deeply depressed after knowing everything. Could Erwin also wished the same conclusion if he was alive, after seeing his people’s memories wiped and getting slaughtered and invaded again and again and to finish this was there had to be a major sacrifice? I don’t know. Look at it this way, take away the titan power and placed Nuclear power or viruses instead. What I am saying, no one life is equal to a hundred or more and vice versa. Eren wasn’t selfish because he didn’t get what he wanted. Everyone else was by using the titan power and it led them to their doom.
BatKKKsman it’s not about there’s no other way, Eren didn’t do the rumbling because he needed to, he did it because he wanted to, ruclips.net/video/H6GmVCD7cxk/видео.html watch this eren analysis, it’s gonna help you understand everything
@@Wind_God11 ye I mean agree with u. His desire was intense but that wasn't the only reason. Read how horrified he is when he realised he couldn't change the future. I wouldn't call eren an evil guy, just pathetic and weak who fell slave to his destiny. And I mean we can't throw all blame on eren too
i really appreciate the analytical intelligence of this video/channel in general. wish i could look as deep into a character and or story like this.
ngl i teared up. he's such a tragic character
The reveal of the Colossal and Armored titans is even better because you can miss them saying anything to Eren because it isn't the focus of the scene. The rest of the Scouts chatting about Ymir is.
Loved it it was BRILLIANT WELL DONE
brillaint video man, you can see the effort that went into it and it hit every beat.
Keep up the good work homie :) it's not unappreciated.
I couldn’t have said it better 🙏🏾💪🏾🔥
Eren Jaeger is the greatest antagonist ever. The perfect good guy who went bad. Just genius.
Bad? no, Eren is a character with absolute confidence in himself and his being to determine what is right for him; that being the protective role in maintaining his freedom, he knows to take from others in retaliation to what they take from him, this personality has always been embedded into the Eren we know today, even since childhood. He is selfish, yet honourable. He is not one to take your freedom, but more than willing if you were to do the exact same to him, he is no different than any person in Marley, nor the world. And honestly who could blame him? Truly, we’re all the same in heart [we all have an Eren inside of us].Eren had just as much justification to massacre the world than the world had to his people.
@@animefreak8718 Eren's done what is right for him at the expense of thousands of innocent lives. He even killed children who obviously had nothing to do with any of the marley politics. Seriously, how can you think eren is least bit honourable? He's that one stupid kid who starts school shooting and murdering random people because he got beaten by a bully.
There is no good or bad in AOT world. Morals just go outta the window. Its all about perspective. The world of AOT was trash and Eren rightfully viewed it as so.
Bro, this video makes me want to travel back in time to my younger self, and show my younger self this video and enjoy his fascination toward it. Because you kind sir, have done an excellent job with this. Thank you.
really insightful video, thanks for making it
Thinking about Eren in the context of the world as a whole is grim but, honestly very compelling. What we have is the unending cycle of violence, of wielding power for not only selfish reasons but seeing swaths of people enable those with power and twisted minds to do what they please perhaps out of fear, out of the notion that they’ll be alone and die alone, or risk abandoning the people they love to an even worse fate. The people who live on the mainland can’t be faulted for living their lives, not even the average Marleyan citizen, after all we’re all special and have value because we are simply born and live here. They didn’t deserve to be flattened, and we can see that as they passed a crying baby into each other’s hands to ensure they would be the only ones to be crushed under the colossal titans. Their hate however would doom Paradis to repeated wars and invasions regardless of what they did, taking it lying down, only bluffing the use of the rumbling, or exclusively crushing the alliance. But the entire world didnt deserve to go for that hate. It was a failure to let go of that hate though, from everyone who could’ve stood up knowing they’d succeed with unity and numbers, to the ones in power whether in Marley, Hizuru, Paradis, who knew things that would’ve saved lives and chose to let people die.
When people’s fears and hatred guide their action AND their inaction, we create the devils that we imagine our opposition to be. Not just the ones inside each of us, but that perfect one, who won’t pull back like many of us would after realizing where this takes us. Eventually we’ll give way to someone born to be that person who doesn’t yield and causes more distraction than we could’ve even wanted in our angriest and most fearful state. Because we thought making good choices was beyond bad people. Eren is the way he is not just for being born, but also being sculpted by everything from King Fritz, to even the Tybur family’s refusal to use their power and help the Eldians in Marley at least so their children stop getting fed to dogs. What else would someone so immediately volatile want? And yet he still realizes what he did was wrong. At the core of even the most rotten person is still a person, not necessarily to sympathize with but to understand.
Eren is easily one of my favorite protagonists, and an example I use in discussion on ethics considering how his story turned out.
I just realized something, eren breaking out of Zeke’s chains, represents him sacrifing a big part of himself to become free, and doing anything he can to chase it (Ymir)
God tier analysis.
Dude, you are epic!
BESTO FRIENDO has me rofl. Great analysis - I'm happy to see the mix of manga And anime in this. AoT is truly an amazing series.
Nice analysis bro, new sub for sure
again, Eren didnt see all of the future when he kissed historias hand
he doesnt have royal blood, he cant use the attack titan like that, he saw his DADS memories of the future (which are memories from the PAST), that he, in the future hand picked, that we know were incomplete and lacking
he knew a few key plot points (the rumbling for instance), but he didnt even know the crucial plot point of marley attacking paradis full force
Future Eren knew he’d be stopped that’s the whole reason why he beat up Armin
@@evanpowers6045 No. He did not know he would be stopped until he got full access to the founder's power. He flattened the world because that fit his view of freedom. A world for him to explore, free of prejudice.
@@evanpowers6045 he didn’t know he’d be stopped until after he started the rumbling otherwise he would have told historia since he had no reason not to
An important thing about the moment Eren kisses Historia hand is that he doesn't see all the future, but he only sees the future his father saw. That's interesting to know because there were many things he didn't know would happen, like Sasha. He only knew about everything when he got in contact with Zeke.
imo, Eren could be a manifestation of Ymir's willing to be free, she used Eren as a lock and Mikasa as the key in the end, but Eren always was himself, even in the very beggining, when he talks to Hannes, you can see his intentions and his mind even not being tainted by any titan influences
17:26 the anime adaptation of this has arrived and it did not disappoint!
Damn this video is just so cool 🔥🔥
Man eren character is so misunderstood that caused so many ppl to hate him and think he is mid character
I love Eren as a character. Sure I found the ending lackluster, it was kinda turn off after all that development from him. But after reading it few times, it sinks. He was layered with his desire for freedom and protecting his friends. His sanity has been constantly pushed to the brink and it just hits the brink at the end. You may hate him , like him , cringe at him for what he did and what affect his action had or not, but as a character he's brilliantly written
Thanks for the manga warning :) Great vid!
In that line on the beginning when I first heard it, I seriously thought he was talking about Erwin Smith. And it makes me think that Erwin and his beliefs are what inspired so many to keep fighting. That’s what made him my favorite character
Amazing video! AoT is truly about the struggles of a character receiving god-like powers
Aparently part 2 will only cover until 131, which is when we see the Freedom Panel. And we're gonna get a movie. Different ending 100% guaranteed now.
Is this confirmed?? When I finished the manga last April I really felt like a movie was probable to end this anime
Bro i truly appreciate you,very very impressed bro
Eren jagur
The most free and powerful slave of a broken dream
How ironic
I think you are wrong about Mikasa's decision. It wouldn't change anything because Eren already has seen what has happened and that couldn't be changed. This was his way of testing it and cutting ties with her. After that he was acting differently towards her and wasn't honest. He showed her in paths what the other outcome could have been, but that outcome was a lie because he couldn't live like that.
He's also wrong about being a mastermind. He was simply following the set future he saw when he touched Historia's hand
@@PlayingWithIssues he never saw the whole future watch it again bruh🤦♂️
I don’t get why everyone is so confused by what Eren did, literally the only other option was for him and his people to ALL die, in that situation and from what we know about eren, Is the ANYYYYY version of him that would really choose to lay down and die
I really don't care about anything Eren does in the last 2 seasons, for me he's been the villain since episode 1. NOTHING justifies the pleasure he feels when he's killing. Attack on School Castes confirms to the public that in a peaceful world, without Titan's powers, Eren's only desire is blood and war. Something I already knew from episode 1. Without the power of protagonism he would be any serial killer within the walls...
@@nicolasoliveira4903 I disagree, as you can see when eren apoligizes to ramzi he does not feel pleasure at all, even when he saved mikasa from the men who murdered her parents he just did it to save her as you can see from his tears. In the last anime episode he says that the only reason he would do something like this would be when someone privates him or his friends from their freedom
@@Salvatore_Plaia So, if Hitler says he did everything he did, fighting for the freedom of his people, is that all right? So technically he would be a hero? stop the cap. This freedom talk is some bullshit he made up after he met Armin. Mikasa was just some random girl he didn't even know, the extra stabs he gave one of the guys was extremely unnecessary, do not try to justify that. Just because someone has committed a crime doesn't give me the right to do anything against that person.
Interestingly the thousands of girls he killed in the end don't matter? You keep inventing justifications to sympathize with Hitler.
@@Salvatore_Plaia Eren is a villain, a bad person who has earned a "main character" badge.
@@nicolasoliveira4903 not justifying, I’m just saying he didn’t enjoy what he did, that’s what you said
After watching every single theory video on youtube, time to actually read the manga ending myself lmao I've been anime only so far
You just Shinzou'd your last Sasageyo............................
why are you watching this video without reading the.....
Eren thoughts evolved with the series but in the end, he was always selfish. It was always about what he wanted. He wanted freedom, he wanted to venture outside the walls, he wanted to protect his friends and he did not care if others died for it. Thats why he joined the scouts in the first place. So many of them died when they went outside but it was a price he was willing to pay as he would get what he wanted. Everytime he messed up, people died to recover him. It was perfectly clear during the titan choice between Erwin and Armin. We knew these characters so we know Erwin was tired and Armin was his potential succesor but they didnt. Eren just wanted to save his friend OVER HIS COMMANDER. He say the good and bad in people, he realised how there is a good and bad inside everybody but in the end, was still selfish to what he wanted(save his friends and revenge for being locked up inside those walls and people looking down on them) and it was worth sacrificing the entire earth for him(even though he felt the evil in his conscious). Which makes him such a cool character because unlike others, he knows what he is doing is evil and actually feels it in his conscious but does it nonetheless).
I solemnly offer my Heart to Eren Jaeger. ❤️
I became an even bigger Yeagerist after this video!
This was just one hell of a video.
I would have to disagree with you on the "paths" part. History did happen once, that's how Eren got to where he is. And then, a slightly different history happened a second time, where Eren's father was shown a portion of Eren's memories. Zeke also came to that conclusion. Well, I still loved this video. It was a very good analysis.
Last time i watched you was when you had 550 subs
And now u havr over 4k subs
Gg man
Eren hates all titans. What is Eren? A Titan.
Eren hates those who are attacking his home; the eldian warriors. What is Eren? An Eldian.
Eren hates his enemies across the sea that would attack his home. What is Eren? An enemy from across the sea that attacks people’s homelands.
Eren hates slaves. What is Eren? A slave to his own ideology to keep moving forward. A slave to his own future.
Eren is a Titan. Eren is an Eldian. Eren is the enemy. Eren is a slave. (Much like Ymir the founder)
Eren is the enslaved attack Titan, who can’t stop moving forward. When Eren appears to be at most in control of his own destiny is in fact the point in time after which he has seen his own fate and becomes a slave to it. Moving forward.
Slow clap for Isayama.
Really solid analysis!
The concept of Erens specific ability to see and manipulate time is fucking terrifying. Because he doesn’t ever really get one where he wins. It’s like Dr.Strange and when he looks at ways to beat Thanos, except here in AOT there isn’t even 1 good option for him. He had to live the rest of his days not only knowing he would die, but being the one to manipulate himself to it from since he was a child.
This fits with the new ED which is called “child of evil”