I PUT A SUPERCAR ON A 4X4 - IT’S WORSE THAN YOU THINK
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- I’m back! With the Astrover finally in the light of day, we now face some serious creative direction questions…
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Please don’t apologize for not posting? We will be here, ready to consume your content on your schedule. Can’t wait to see the final product and seeing the entire process!
I appreciate that! I get messages often when I’m not posting, hopefully when budget allows, episodes will be weekly again. But aiming for every 2-3 weeks!
Two british cars being listed as having the same wheelbase and then not having the same wheelbase is such a british thing.
Yeah it’s kinda remarkable
You gotta lengthen the wheel base. This has too much potential to be awesome.
We’ll get there!
I really like the idea and concept. Height looks good, body on chassis looks good, wheelbase needs to lengten, chassis on the rear needs shortening.
Time to get cracking!
Go custom in the back, but find yourself a small pickup bed, and make it a ute.
Or tray back?
@@HudsonAutoFilmsa tray back would look really good also have some versatility too
An Aston tray back/pick up will look awesome and very different 😂😂😂
And practical!
@@HudsonAutoFilms but if you can get it to work as a complete Aston car that’d look even more amazing and awesome
Stay strong with that - looking forward to your progress.
Thank you! Getting there 🤓
Forget the bumpers, make tube rock slider type ones that kind of emulate the shape (and hold the aston grill) then the back one could be longer to hide the chassis, and maybe double as a spare tyre/ gerry can rack also ✌️
That’s a great idea. I’ll get on it!
Get a Defender 110 chassis... Ten more inches in the wheelbase would give you more options 👍🏼
I think your into something here. Was the disco 1 only 100 inch wheelbase ?
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A Ninety is 92.5 inch wheelbase
A Oneten is 110 inch wheelbase
A One thirty is 130 Inch wheelbase
Disco 1 and RRC are 100 inch wheelbase
RRC LSE is 108 I think
Disco 2.....dunno for sure 😂
I like the idea, but working in the realms of budget and VIN numbers, I think it’ll have to persevere with my 100 inch member!
@@HudsonAutoFilmsit's not about the size, it's how you utilize it
i like the idea of cutting the fenders further and then putting flares over it
the buggy thing makes it a lot less *aston*
Absolutely. I want to keep as much Aston as possible!
Cut the back end off the Aston just after where the doors close in . And then Aline the front end correctly and then the back end . Ad or subtract metal to get it to sit correctly
Absolutely, I think I’m going to get the new wheels sourced as well. Get a proper perspective on everything
I think shortening the existing springs first will give you a better insight into what it could look like before committing further funds.Great to have you back.
I agree 100%. That’s absolutely the next step. Then the vision will be clearer. Thank you for the support, happy to be back!
If you go for option two it’s like putting an Aston front on a Landrover. I think that’s missing the point of the entire build. Focus on the end result and not what would be easier to build.
I do agree, feels too easy the other route
Great work and good luck getting all the necessary parts, this project looks better in every new video✌️
Thanks for the support! Slowly getting there!
Make it a Aston front and rear. Cut the metal arches so the wheels dont rub and fit off road plastic arches on to cover the difference 👍
Sounds good. I’ll get it lowered first. Then we can see clearance
I was wondering where you been. Glad to see the project is still on :), happy cutting, friend.
Won’t be so long next time! Thank you for watching :)
for the alghorithm 🌻
Thank you!
@@HudsonAutoFilms I'm doing my part
I think you should get some CAD models of both cars and take a lot of measurements before continuing to chop
Yeah I had a look. Every choice now has a draw, so it’s just navigating it. Option two is certainly a lot easier. But feels a bit too easy!
@@HudsonAutoFilms you can't go the easy way, you gotta milk that cow
In Germany we say ‚Der Mut ist mit den Wahnsinnigen‘ , „Courage is with the insane ones“ … good luck, and respect ✊👍
Haha I like that! Thank you for the support!
Its very exciting when you post a video on this project lol
I’m glad you’re enjoying. It’s great fun to build!
To me it looks pretty tough, hard to keep it fun with how frustrating it must be when something just dosent fit eh
Great to see you still at it! Whatever you choose to do it'll be done with enthusiasm and in a properly considered way, so will be an entertaining watch regardless.
If itwere me though, I would love to see it as much Aston as possible. Maybe pull the body back to align the front, and then trim the rear tubs to fit, adding an almost widebody flare to the rear arches.
I won’t ever stop! I really appreciate your support :)
I agree with you, I’ll pull the body back - lower it a bit and then see where we sit!
Cut the back off and put a flat bed on it. But keep the front astin.
That would solve all my problems
I think it's more viable to remove all panels from the Aston Martin. Creat a box to mount the seats and stuff in and just build a buggy style cage to mount the panels to
I think certainly for the back that makes sense!
One other important consideration is the driver seat position. Before going forward you should rig up some sort of seat. Maybe just a cushion to sit on and a box to lean against. How does this work for vision through the windscreen, reaching the controls, opening the door, getting in and out? I like your concept. Maybe get the front wheels to be central on the Aston wheel arch and then be creative with everything behind the door. You might need a lower radiator. Maybe a timber paneled van rear end???
I'm just glad thet you're back, I was afraid that something had happened.
Thank you for your concern, very pleased to be back! Nothing to worry about, just hard to get all the parts funded!
Behold! The EXCELSIOR!
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This reminded me of the Grand Tour’s ‘the Excellent’. A Mercedes SL on a Land Rover chassis 😂
I certainly got some inspiration from that!
@@HudsonAutoFilms Can't wait for it to be finished! Its gonna be amazing!
Great video, stick with it! I'd say take your idea a little further! Stick with the Aston front end, which does look great. At the back, make it a (tiny) pickup with a tubular outer frame. Fully mad max, and there's potential it might actually be practical! And your alignment issues go away - just make it to fit. And yes, of course, bigger tyres and potentially lower suspension. Good luck whatever you end up doing :)
It would make life a lot easier! I think I’ll mess around with ride height and go from there!
What's that humming noise? Oh, It's Sir David Brown spinning in his grave!
For me, you need you need to get the wheel base and the wheel arches lined up somehow. Visually its hard to see past this issue.
Indeed, a ‘custom’ rear would solve that. But it’s a hard choice
Great to have you back. Honestly I don’t mind what you do, I will enjoy regardless!
Thanks for the support! Happy to be back!
Good to see you back, I was wondering what happened.
Good to be back!
I have built a lot of cut and shuts. You should ditch the sawzall and cut everything possible with a mini circular saw with a carbide blade. All the sawzall does is create more work with the jagged crooked edges everywhere.
Indeed, this is initial cutting for clearance. Everything will be made nice later on!
I think for the back of the Aston you should make it look like an Exo-Car, search nissan 350z exo car and the first image is what I'm thinking of. It would look sick if done with this.
Agreed! Love that Z. Sounds like a plan!
@@HudsonAutoFilmsI was exactly thinking his idea That should 💯 b the way you go
I think the height looks good but the mismatched wheelbase makes it look silly. The other bloke's comment about a longer wheelbase is my vote.
It’s a tough one. Option two would remove all wheel base issues. Option one means a lot of fettling. But a new chassis/lengthening it is too much for what it is
@@HudsonAutoFilms Then a custom rear is the direction for you. Line the front guard up with the front wheel and go from there. All options you have will look good in their own way.
The wheelbase between the two is off by nearly 3 inches. It won't work or look properly unless you lengthen the Land Rover chassis.
It’s actually 1.5. But the skirts make it look much worse
@@HudsonAutoFilms 94 Discovery= 100", 07 Vantage= 102.5". No trying to be a hater. That is quite a difference.
Is it possible to move the rear axle back 1-2 inch?
Hudson Auto Films. That rings a bell. Didn’t you used to do RUclips videos back in the day? 😉 (Welcome back)
Ah I did…back in my youth. It seems a distant memory now. Haha glad to be back, lots to come, and soon!
The wheelbases are similar enough which is the critical thing. I don't think it's that far off, I'd be inclined to stick with option 1. Just needs the bottom of the wheelarches to be flared out (a lot) and you're most of the way there!
I believe the wheelbase is only an inch and a half different, but you really feel that in reality!
You’re right, I think the body is getting close to capacity. As soon the engine will be sticking out. Time to get the springs cut…bring the wheels closer to home!
I think concentrate on get the front wheel and arch alignment spot on. Then do a trayback/Ute bed back for it but create a light panel that uses the Aston lights. Run a double spare set up etc - use the Nomad as your inspiration 😎
I agree with getting the front right. I think I’ll try and make an Aston inspired rear which allows for a cage etc!
In the US you could just cut the frame in half and lengthen it a bit, but since you can't do that, you'll to clearance the fenderwells on the inside by the doors, get the tires you want to run, see what it looks like with them on.. Good luck!! 😊👍
Thanks! Lots of fun to come, nice problems to have!
If you are going to continue this ( AND you should, its cool and crazy ) You need to do it right. The only option you actually have is bite the bullet and modify the chassis. Cut the chassis body mounts off and move the rear axle aft to suit the wheel base of the Aston, This is by far the path of least resistance, Build the chassis correctly and compliance will be far easier than doing the whole build wrong.
Indeed. I think adding some length in to the chassis won’t be the end of the world. Will make for a much better looking and more functional car as well!
That saw is my go-to instrument of destruction!
They’re great!
Move the body rearward 10cm.
Lose the side skirts to disguise the wheelbase disparity.
Rtain some part of the rear quarter panels but cut away from the bottom until satisfied.
Agreed! That’s the way I think
Built a Aston shooting brake 4x4
Already have one shooting brake headache!
Great to see you back. Aston front end and party back end
Great to be back! The mullet mobile!
Option 1. It's more work but I genuinely think it'll be better in the long run
I’m with you I reckon
Id chop the aston body just in front of the trunk and lengthen it there, put a rollbar in and a stepside-type indent to make up the wheelbase difference and add functionality. Or something along those lines. Looks good though
Good idea. Lots of work ahead!
Great to see another episode!
Hope you enjoyed!!
@@HudsonAutoFilms Very much so!
without the sideskirts it looks a lot cooler! or at least cut the corners of the sideskirts so that the distance to the wheels stays more or less the same as towards the front and rear bumper. this is amazing :)
Glad you’re enjoying! I agree, no side skirts wins!
No side skirts but fabricate some rock sliders to tie in with the Aston lines.
I was thinking something like the blast diverting panels some military vehicles have, and yes I agree 100% it looks great without the side skirts.
Just a Quick Google and i found a 110 chassis for £425. Would this be a Better Option to get the Wheelbase right. Changing the rear end panels could mess up the look.
Does it have an ID?
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Looked at the Description and seems to have a lot of corrosion, so maybe not su h a good idea
I think your best bet is to stretch the Aston in the rear a little bit, move those rear panels back, add a little filler panel behind the seats and cut/modify the side skirt
That’s a good idea. I’ll have a look and a ponder
@HudsonAutoFilms Good luck, brother. No way is ever easy, but I hope you get the result you dreamed up.
Have a real good think, many designers scrap endless ideas before they find the answer.
Don’t waist time when your gut tells you it’s not right…
Very true. I’m sure I’ll figure it out soon!
@@HudsonAutoFilms easy route is to madmax it, Aston front apocalyptic rear..
Option 1 just cut the rear of the frame, there's nothing behind the Aston bumper. remove all gas tank lower more and get a new gas tank.
Sounds easy enough!
An Aston pickup would be amazing actually and would make perfect use of the extended chassis of the Disco. A sporty 4x4 pickup would be fantastic
It would be cool! I’ll think about it!
Option 2. The wheel clearance issue with the rear 3/4 is going to be a challenge, and messing with the chassis sounds complicated and expensive. I agree that the left hand side looks good and would look even better with a custom rear 3/4 panel.
It’s very tough. The chassis would be a pain to modify and somewhat defeat the point. Lots to think about!
It’s good to see you again
Happy to be back!
Build it more like the Bentley from Top Gear!
That would be fun!
make it a pickup
aston front, more use in back
Tempting!
110 chassis….like this🎉
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You could lenghten the Aston to fit the land rover chassis
Definitely possible
Welcome back bruva
Thank you mate!
Aston Front End, Pickup Bed in the Back?
That would be very usable!
Go custom, but use the Aston panels as a base - it will keep the feel of an Aston, but with better fit
Good idea. I like that
I think the back should get a small aluminum utility bed.
It would solve a lot of problems!
Can't quite imagine a custom rear end that would fit with the smooth front end of the Aston.
Suspect once you get larger tyres and open the wheel arches to suit, the rear end would blend a lot better.
Actually, that's pretty simple to mock up in cardboard (or digitally) and check. Might give you a better idea if you want to go that way.
I did that in a photoshop in my comment just after yours. Larger wheel arches, whole body moved back a bit and it looks mint.
Unsure if the engine/radiator support will be an issue with my photoshoped body placement though
Yeah I’ll have a go. I think moving the body back is essential. Keeping the front standard. Then going to town on opening up the rear arches
@@HudsonAutoFilms Keen to see how it comes up. Living vicariously through you, as I always wanted to do something like this, but it's cost prohibitive in Australia..
Very very underrated channel!!!❤❤❤❤
Thank you for your support!
Are the front hockey sticks part of the IVA? If not moving the front axle forward would solve a lot of clearance issues.
Shorten the chasis & fit a lift kit to the suspension, big wide wheels & arch extension. Go full on mini monster truck. Can't see the point of lowering it as surely you want it to be unique & stand out. Maybe an external roll cage.
Aiming for a good height for off roading. But also want it to look good! So lots of messing about ahead!!
I love the channel and your projects. Kudos for your creativity and skills! Not sure about your sanity tho! Lots of good suggestions here. I was a bit worried when I didn't see any new post for such a long time, but with projects of my own, I can understand the money issue. Cheers!
Thank you! I am medically insane! The episodes won’t be as far apart now, but it’s hard maintaining pace for RUclips simply due to cost! But getting there! Cheers 🍻
looks like you had fun building/cutting
Lots of fun!
I think the first option is good,
Cause then you can actually use the thing except put it in a corner.
Very true. Time to cut some springs!
Good progress. Check out some of Hooper or Franco Sbarro’s greatest hits - what they were making bespoke for oil sheikhs back in the 70s and 80s. If you get in that mindset you’ll find more design opportunities. Lambo and RR Camargue etc desert / falconry off-road specials that cost the GDP of a small nation to create. No doors, or heavily revised doors is a good start, a la the one-off Camargue. (Which is why the left hand side of your project, ie the side without a door, is the better looking…)
Amazing cars, just had a deep dive into Franco’s work! I agree with the doors! I’ll whip the remaining one off, align the front wheels and lower the springs and see where things are!
Still looking forward to seeing the build progress
Also enable your likes
It’s getting there. They should be visible!
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Why don't you cut the rear wings to accommodate the rear wheels, make custom rear flared wheel arches out of glass fiber, which you can then align with the rear wheels of the Land Rover and fit them onto the cut out rear wings? It might look a bit strange but you might just pull it off. If you plan to fit bigger wheels then you would have to cut out the rear mud guards in any case. Afterwards, the front wings could do well with a bit of the same treatment, but with less cutting needed.
Yeah I think that’s close to what I’ll do. The front is harder to mess with due to the engine placement. So I think I’ll move the body back, get the front arches lining up and then heavily modify the rear arches!
@@HudsonAutoFilms Moving the body back so the front wheels line up with the front arches and then modifying the rear arches sounds like a plan!
Just a note about battery tools, you need at least a 5ah one otherwise you will be going through them every 5 minutes.
Absolutely. A couple of mine are 5ah, but even they seem to get exhausted in 15 mins
You can always make de Land Rover chassis longer, reinforce them and you solve the arches problem.
Indeed, but then it would need IVA testing in the U.K. :/
It’s a good day when you get the notification that Hudson autofilms has uploaded 👌
Aw i appreciate that! Glad to be back!!
The left side is better. I think the clue is leave out the seal/lower body panel and then anlage the rear cutout for the wheel.
Yeah the skirt looks better gone! It is temping, I’m going to lower the car first then reevaluate!
It looked great until the panels went on :/
I do quite like the look of the left side though, I like your idea of custom rear panels. Better get a coach builder involved! :P
Keep going mate, you'll get there
I think it’ll shape up! But was definitely a moment of doubt. Thanks for your support, lots to come!!
do a flat deck on the back with Aston front.
It is incredibly tempting
Not sure where you can from here. If you lower the body enough to make it look right, then the chassis will be so far up into the car that you'll look like you're sitting on the car, rather than in it and you may also run out of room under the dash to put pedals. The front axle needs to move forwards too or you'll never get bigger wheels on there. I like the idea a lot, but it looks like it's time for a serious rethink. You have to keep most of the Aston body whatever you do, as otherwise nobody will be able to tell what it was, so why bother?
I think it’s time to cut the springs. You’re right, any more chassis lowering will mess with the cabin. But if I centre the front wheels, cut the springs. Then I just have to worry about the rear!
It looks really really good.
If you did t a rear tray you could get some versatility as an off-roader.
Thanks! That’s a good idea!
@@HudsonAutoFilms it’s going to be such a sick fourbie ☺️
I like the Aston front and custom back idea.
Would you do fibreglass panels for the rear?
Yep, that would be the plan!
I think option 3 keep Aston front and build a rear it could become a mad max or cyberpunk style, stick at it great job so far 👍🏻
I think that’s the way. I’ll get the front all squared up and go from there!
I think don’t bother with front bumper or side skirts. Make some cool tubular steel rock sliders for the side and a matching style tubular steel front bumper. Paint it all matt black paint the car a different colour. Maybe do something similar for the rear bumper
Love that idea. Absolutely going to do that!
Great work so far! If you are able to center the wheels to the wheel wells like the left side that would be great. Definitley not a fan of the right side as it sits. I think you have something that could become amazing, and if it were me I would customize whatever I could to get that form and function. Can't wait to see where you go with it.👍
Thanks! I think I will centre the front wheels and work my way back! But first, I must lower it!
Sort of like it but either the body or front wheels are out as offside wheel is closer to a pillar than the nearside.
Once the rear exposed chassis is removed will look good at the rear.
Get the arches to match the wheels.
Up front remove the old land rover bumper and your have a very nice car.
Looking great fair play. Maybe air ride suspension could work.
Thanks! Could do, might get expensive!
I knew the front wheel looked too far back
Yeah that’s next, line those up. Then I can get more creative with the rear
@HudsonAutoFilms also is the body crooked? because in the video, the passenger front looks more centered than the other one.
It’s the side skirt playing tricks. I checked this morning!
The biggest problem is neither of the wheel arches center over the hubs. You could cut it behind the arch panel, move them for alignment and fill the holes with custom patch panels, - or - cut the rover frame dead center, move each end till the wheel hubs line up via plumb bob and square, then weld the lengthened chassis back together with thick steel.😮
I’m thinking the chassis may be the easiest route. Not terribly hard to add some length!
The MAD MAX JAMES BOND MOBILE LIVES ON!
It’s coming!
Will you add Ejection Seats and a Flamethrower and other Bond Gadgets? 🎉
I'm loving it even though you have some hurdles to get through, my vote would be a set of 59 Cadillac rear quarters, but I'm old, haha.
Perhaps look at a set of rear quarters off anything where the price is right, and it works with what you already have going on.
I so want to do something like this with my 93 v8 disco.
I’m glad you’re enjoying, that’s all that matters! I’m having a great time, even though it’s challenging at times. I’ll have a look and see what I can find! You should definitely do a crazy build! I have a few interesting bodies around the back of my barn 😎
The landy wheelbase is too short for the body lines. I think you need to trim the front wheel arches so they sweep backwards and go for a Baja rear end.
That might be the way, going to lower it first then reevaluate!
Front fender is rubbing the tire on the right side
It is indeed!
It kind of looks like the front wheels are a bit back in the wheel well. Maybe doing the custom backend you mention will also allow you to move the body back slightly to make the front wheels fit the opening better
They are, I’ll centre the front wheels and then work my way back!
I say leave it high up and cut the wheel arches and move them to where it looks and fits better...
I think that is what I’ll have to do at the back, I’m going to venture the front arches as they are!
Loving the build. Just joined the Patreon to help out a little. It’s difficult I like the idea of the whole Aston body but that wheel arch gap on the back is enormous. I know big wheels would help but I’m not sure. Someone else commented about putting a tray back on it. I like that idea, it’s already ridiculously so just make it into an 4x4 Aston pick up truck. Although that almost seems like a cop out. Have you seen BUM’s pick up Mercedes? That thing is awesome. You could do something like that but more British refined.
Thank you! I really appreciate your support. Yeah I think it’s time to cut the springs, bring the wheels closer to the body and then evaluate. It’s so hard to tell at this point. And I do like the pick up idea, but I agree…it feels like an easy way out! The BUM video is great, I immediately looked up old Mercs near by!
I feel like the whole point of this was to have an offroad Aston vantage, if you did a totally custom rear you may as well have just built a car from scratch on the land rover chassis and put Aston front wings on that? But it's your car man, I'll watch whatever you choose to do to it
I’m with you there. I know it would be easier going with option two. But I’m going to do everything I can to keep it fully Aston
@@HudsonAutoFilms I appreciate that's easy for me to say sat at home in my warm living room but you did ask for opinions... Obviously it will be different for custom vehicles but I have done a few IVAs for import cars and they're not as scary as they sound, just a longer more detailed MOT
@@WhitmeisterG absolutely agree here. It's the harder, longer process but will absolutely be the one that makes all the hard work worthwhile.
As much as I think a baha-esque Aston truck would look cool, that's a wholly different build and would make more sense on a fully custom chassis
If you don't want to lengthen the existing Discovery chassis, how about using a Land Rover Defender 110 chassis (it's 10inches longer) and its a nut and bolt job to swop over your existing axles, engine, gearbox, steering box ect.
That would be even worse. The Astons wheelbase is about 63 mm 2.5 inches longer than the one on the discovery. If you did that you would end up with the wheels 7.5 inches too far apart instead
The more I think about it, the more I think adding a bit of length is the best way. Splice in a couple of inches!
you know what's funny? your gonna have the most reliable Aston ever
Haha so true