Clem's average APM actually SURPASSES Serral at multiple points (~500APM). My wrists hurt just thinking about it, but it's incredible to watch. Hope you enjoy as much as I did, GLHF
Winter, it would be cool if you could flash units lost screen after a game for a few seconds. People who are interested (like me) can pause and have a look.
That was insane, Serral has the best holds in the world without a doubt, I thought he was dead for sure at least 6 times in that game. When hes on point as he is now, no one can beat him. For me hes the GOAT, with Maru right under him. Best ZvT and ZvP ever, the only thing thats iffy for him has always been his ZvZ
@@crazzynez Agree - but don't forget that even his ZvZ is his worst matchup, he still wins more often than not against the other Zerg. No matter if it is Reynor, Dark, Reynor... Nobody has a positive winrate against him if you look at the results for 1-2 years.
@@AntiDoctor-cx2jd Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they just keep nerfing Zerg until Serral literally can't win cos of the handicap Terran and Protoss have. Already Zerg's late game is either hard countered, requires Vipers AND Infestors or is horrendously inefficient. Zerg is the only race that doesn't exactly hard counter other race's army comps really. I mean sure, Viper + whatever or Infestor + whatever are very good, but both usually still lose to Skytoss (A-move comp) or Bioterran (Stim spam).
Clem feels superhuman sometimes - watching him dismantle Serral feels like watching The Flash redirect a hurricane. But that's just it - Serral feels like a force of nature, and watching him dismantle Clem feels like watching a disaster documentary where you know everyone dies at the end.
Serral truly embraces the swarm, if hes ahead, he will throw endless waves of units against you until you drown in corpses, if hes behind, he will cling into every nook and cranny and be as hard to get rid of as a swarm infestation. :D
I hate to say this but game 2 has to be GoTY. Has to be. Insane brawler style starcraft where either player can win at any point serral, the king on the ropes defending with everything he can against a terran who quite literally out played him in APM. You pulled up the APM viewer and Clem's AOM peaked at over 1000 actions per minute. Impeccable defense by serral and an absolute show of authority by Clem.
clems games are insane. i could watch a lot more of his games than i do already, and that's all of them. On top of Winter being the best commentator there is, both Clem and Serral are on top of their game right now. Its a great time to be alive, i don't care what anyone says lol
they skills of the players are topnotch. the way they control the units, shifting attention from base to army while producing new units and building new bases. that's multitasking at it's finest.
I kept watching Maru and it did feel like he was beginning to lose more and more matches. I though at first it would be Byun or Gumiho who will take the spot, but it's really surprising and not in a bad way that Clem pushed himself to the top. Well Deserved.
i used to find serralgames a little boring, cause he is just too damn good, but now im excited to see just where hes gonna have his infestors and how he uses them. Like during game one when he was going to attack the planetary Clem emps the two festors and mid fight serral reborrows them and backs them up to use them again later then withrdaws whats left of the army to another area with a burrowed festor right outside clems base just in case he wants to reengage while being chased like god damn hes just built different
I don't really like subbing/liking to new channels i'm introduced to, but I REALLY like how laid back and just "authentic" you are to this game. You're just you, and oh my that makes sc2 more enjoyable to watch. (more 2 vs 2's please!)
Serral's card has climbed up to 10/10/10? Is he shooting for next world champ? You know what's funny, whenever you look left and talk to JImmy I picture some guy in the bowels of the boilerroom of a late 1800's trans-atlantic steam engine powered vessel (like the dirty rundown boat in King Kong) trying to keep your stream and videos up and running
I've been watching every night, so when I read today's thumbnail tittle I lost it. 😅🤣😆😄😅😆😄😂😂🤣👍👍 you definitely made my day better before I've even watch the ad before they video. Thank you winter❄
I don’t play a lot of StarCraft 2, but watching pro players amazes me. Maybe terrans should start adding a raven into the army just to see burrowed units.
Heres an idea, why do people not invest in neo steel armor (building armor +2 bunker count+2) then casually put 1-2 bunkers on your most dangerous bases. This allows you to obviously have a more in trenched position but, when you wanna move out simply evacuate the bunkers and move out, if you have lets say 2 bunkers at the 3rd and 2 bunkers at the 4th with 6-7 racks. assign 1 rack to each bunker. This way when you move out and restock your units they will auto fill the bunkers during the down time leaving your base a lot less vulnerable. as the most optimal time to be attacks is right when you left home, which you would be close enough to turn around. By the time you would make it across the map 2 marines are running to each bunker. and 2 more are about to be start running. ive done this in a lot of my games and its quite unbeatable once set up because its so hard to have a force strong enough to counter attack, get through all that. then be able to do it again at the 3rd or the natural. usually they lose so much on the first base trade they either have to give up and go home, or they WILL fail on the second base they try to trade.
The comments in response to official cast of this series were so bad that they took the video down. Can't even find it on my history. Maybe they'll just get winter to do em from now on
Serral and serral alone truly creates a problem with zerg. For the most part the game is incredibly "balanced" with a few exceptions. ( protoss just needs a fucking tiny push. Like a 1%increase across the board.) However serral just does things that doesnt seem human. Zerg truly is the race when played absolutely perfectly with no messups, perfect creep spread, perfect injects, perfect control of major spellcasters, feels unbeatable and there is just tiny glimmers of that when serral plays. When he is "on" the entire zerg race as a whole feels unbeatable.
I'm here for the personality. Al Michaels, Howard Cosell and Vin Scully, Winter walks with these cats in the SC2 casting realm - or whichever he chooses next?!. How do even script these one-liners, or is he just riffing? Zerg don't social distance, tf, that is funny....
I feel like we need to take a leaf out of boxings book and start the petition for minimum 9 rounds for big tournaments. First to 5 or a player just taps out wherever. Serral plays like Oleksander Usyk. He might give up a game or two here or there, but it feels the same as Usyk giving up a round; you just know he's going to win, either in accumulative load and fatiguing them with how incredibly actively he fights (translated here into the combination of macro/apm/awareness splitting (eg controlling 1, 2, 3, 4 armies + mining and macroing, etc). Winter the call of 'Serral feels inevitable' - this is where it makes sense, if we just make it 9 rounds you can't help but think at the end Serral just rolls over everyone. Ahhhhh what a game!!!
I thought Serral might actually lose from a tie or slight lead there before the endgame, which, come to think of it, I think I've literally never seen happen
They need to just accept the reality of “skill issue” not “unit issue”. Terran win using 1/3rd to 1/2 of the tech tree, while Serral forced to use 3/4ths to 9/10ths of tech tree just to make things work.
You know i hate watching sc2 lately cuz even the pros are so oblivious i have yet to see when someone loses 20 workers or 60 supply army and are under on mining even have a slight chance of comeback usually when that happens its just them struggling to try to win. case in point im about 1:15:00 ish i dont know exactly when i just know when serral bane busted his supply line i dont need to watch anymore its done
Terran doesn’t deserve to win. Whenever they face any challenge, all they need is to wait for the opposition to get nerfed. Infestor, broodlord, disruptor, DT, even banelings are all nerfed through the last few years while the bio army is never touched. The EMP buff and then reversion of the buff was simply the “balance” council reminding Terrans that they have an OP unit which didn’t need any buffs in the first place. Mech is a smokescreen for Terran buffs. They keep messing with cyclones, pretending that Terran won’t go bio mine every game, but it’s simply to make bio openers harder to predict, forcing opponents to learn new early games that inevitable transition into bio mine. Supposedly “mech” units like widowmine, liberators and siege tanks are not specialized for mech builds at all. They come out with 90~100% effectiveness with no upgrades needed. Zerg and Protoss know that nobody has their back. Because Terran is on the center of SC2 posters and loading screens, because Terran is the default race, the squeaky wheel that gets the grease, Terran will never be disadvantaged. The other races remember that winning is about playing better, that’s why they have players with superior skill, nuanced strategies and tenacity like serral, hero, dark and solar, while Terran players regress into repeating build-order and spamming mines. Why try any harder when doing the same thing already gets you 40% of the tournament money?
Clem's average APM actually SURPASSES Serral at multiple points (~500APM). My wrists hurt just thinking about it, but it's incredible to watch. Hope you enjoy as much as I did, GLHF
Thanks bro, big love ❤
i think ur videos so addicted so dont worry always enjoy it ;d
Incredible casting, Winter. I can’t get enough of that French Crème de la Clem!
sometimes, it is hard to believe that this is a 1v1-match...
60% of that is useless
Winter, it would be cool if you could flash units lost screen after a game for a few seconds. People who are interested (like me) can pause and have a look.
this would be amazing. His streams are my favourite and this would just be that nice touch at the end. good call on this
+1😉
Oh yes, that would be cool! He does it sometimes though, but rarely.
I agree with this! Especially for epic series like this.
Serral is the GOAT for a reason. He seems to react to things just a little bit faster than his opponents.
Game 2 is so brutal, I can hardly imagine any other zerg to endure like that.
That was insane, Serral has the best holds in the world without a doubt, I thought he was dead for sure at least 6 times in that game. When hes on point as he is now, no one can beat him. For me hes the GOAT, with Maru right under him. Best ZvT and ZvP ever, the only thing thats iffy for him has always been his ZvZ
I didn't even know a Zerg could hold like that.
@@crazzynez Agree - but don't forget that even his ZvZ is his worst matchup, he still wins more often than not against the other Zerg. No matter if it is Reynor, Dark, Reynor...
Nobody has a positive winrate against him if you look at the results for 1-2 years.
@@AntiDoctor-cx2jd Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they just keep nerfing Zerg until Serral literally can't win cos of the handicap Terran and Protoss have. Already Zerg's late game is either hard countered, requires Vipers AND Infestors or is horrendously inefficient. Zerg is the only race that doesn't exactly hard counter other race's army comps really. I mean sure, Viper + whatever or Infestor + whatever are very good, but both usually still lose to Skytoss (A-move comp) or Bioterran (Stim spam).
Clem feels superhuman sometimes - watching him dismantle Serral feels like watching The Flash redirect a hurricane. But that's just it - Serral feels like a force of nature, and watching him dismantle Clem feels like watching a disaster documentary where you know everyone dies at the end.
Haha, great way to put it.
Love this! Serral can be redirected and sidestepped, but defeating him is a whole different story.
Serral truly embraces the swarm, if hes ahead, he will throw endless waves of units against you until you drown in corpses, if hes behind, he will cling into every nook and cranny and be as hard to get rid of as a swarm infestation. :D
So well put!!! Serral is like flood waters, rising inexorably
Best quote of the video: "I'll quote an arguably wise man: Me!"
This weeks game of the year woo 🥳
Serral's precision is always awe inspiring to watch
I hate to say this but game 2 has to be GoTY. Has to be.
Insane brawler style starcraft where either player can win at any point serral, the king on the ropes defending with everything he can against a terran who quite literally out played him in APM. You pulled up the APM viewer and Clem's AOM peaked at over 1000 actions per minute.
Impeccable defense by serral and an absolute show of authority by Clem.
I was thinking the same thing tbh. Out of all the games i've watched lately, this is absolutely one that would be right up top for goty
clems games are insane. i could watch a lot more of his games than i do already, and that's all of them. On top of Winter being the best commentator there is, both Clem and Serral are on top of their game right now. Its a great time to be alive, i don't care what anyone says lol
You can REALLY see the fungal nerf this series. So many marines picked up with 5 hp after a fungal...
Anything that poses a challenge to the bio ball will be nerfed
@@AntiDoctor-cx2jd Nah nerf banelings. Serral baneling-dropped like 3 times, everyone knows only Terran is allowed to do that.
13:12 = pure satisfaction
Just read Serral's going to the army next year. Zerg buffs inc?
Serral joins which army again?
@@youchuanwang1738 Finnish defense forces in the sports portion.
He'll probably continue to play just not near as much so his performance could drop
They are constantly getting better over time, and this is #1 vs #2, so I think you might not actually be clickbaiting on this one. GG
they skills of the players are topnotch. the way they control the units, shifting attention from base to army while producing new units and building new bases. that's multitasking at it's finest.
I kept watching Maru and it did feel like he was beginning to lose more and more matches. I though at first it would be Byun or Gumiho who will take the spot, but it's really surprising and not in a bad way that Clem pushed himself to the top. Well Deserved.
As a toss main, I dont always watch ZvT. But when I do... (BW Zerg theme plays) It's because I saw ultralisks in the thumbnail. 🧐
Sc2 has never been better. Thanks winter!
Yes, exactly.
i used to find serralgames a little boring, cause he is just too damn good, but now im excited to see just where hes gonna have his infestors and how he uses them.
Like during game one when he was going to attack the planetary Clem emps the two festors and mid fight serral reborrows them and backs them up to use them again later then withrdaws whats left of the army to another area with a burrowed festor right outside clems base just in case he wants to reengage while being chased like god damn hes just built different
He's added variability to his play the last year he was getting too predictable
I don't really like subbing/liking to new channels i'm introduced to, but I REALLY like how laid back and just "authentic" you are to this game. You're just you, and oh my that makes sc2 more enjoyable to watch. (more 2 vs 2's please!)
Last time Mengsk had ghosts it didn't work out. Ask Kerrigan :D Such amazing commentary.
Great cast winter!!! Hey Brenda!! Serral vs clem is now my fav match up!!
I think Clem has earned a +1 defence upgrade to his Player Card, as he has showed a more mature and restrained playstyle lately.
Serral's card has climbed up to 10/10/10? Is he shooting for next world champ? You know what's funny, whenever you look left and talk to JImmy I picture some guy in the bowels of the boilerroom of a late 1800's trans-atlantic steam engine powered vessel (like the dirty rundown boat in King Kong) trying to keep your stream and videos up and running
I've been watching every night, so when I read today's thumbnail tittle I lost it. 😅🤣😆😄😅😆😄😂😂🤣👍👍 you definitely made my day better before I've even watch the ad before they video. Thank you winter❄
Oh God... its Ryan Reynolds... what do i do?
Serral's ancestors felt that Widow Mine shot!
Mutually assured destruction for those banelings on that Planetary Fortress. BOOM
Great casting Winter! Amazing series!
"help me steplings, I'm stuck!"
I don’t play a lot of StarCraft 2, but watching pro players amazes me. Maybe terrans should start adding a raven into the army just to see burrowed units.
it dies too fast and costs a lot. i heard that on a cast as i myself am not good enough to say it myself
Winter is just chilling, Jimmy is doing the heavy lifting!
Heres an idea, why do people not invest in neo steel armor (building armor +2 bunker count+2) then casually put 1-2 bunkers on your most dangerous bases. This allows you to obviously have a more in trenched position but, when you wanna move out simply evacuate the bunkers and move out, if you have lets say 2 bunkers at the 3rd and 2 bunkers at the 4th with 6-7 racks. assign 1 rack to each bunker. This way when you move out and restock your units they will auto fill the bunkers during the down time leaving your base a lot less vulnerable. as the most optimal time to be attacks is right when you left home, which you would be close enough to turn around. By the time you would make it across the map 2 marines are running to each bunker. and 2 more are about to be start running. ive done this in a lot of my games and its quite unbeatable once set up because its so hard to have a force strong enough to counter attack, get through all that. then be able to do it again at the 3rd or the natural. usually they lose so much on the first base trade they either have to give up and go home, or they WILL fail on the second base they try to trade.
serral going full campaign zerg is beautiful
Watching these videos is more than enjoyable, it's necessary.
Serral's card at the start makes him look like Freddy Krueger. Cmon, you're doing him so dirty.
Introducing Serral as a fourth race was a mistake, he is just imba.
Zerg is.
@@pegasisilver6249 I am talking about the top players.
Not your silver league.
“And ill probably do it anyways what else do I have to do with my life” 😂😂😂 I gave you a like anyways
Game 2 and Game 3 felt almost like they were a mirror of each other.
I love how at 25:59 even mr squeeky clean almost cursed from excitement
serral should have used Neural Parasite on the liberator that was protecting Clem's scv's. ( i use Neural Parasite for alot of things)
I can't imagine how they manage these crazy APM, truly incredible players
Big up from Switzerland! Thanks Winter, follow you for yo long!
did you really say "STEP LINGS" lmmaaoo!!
I mean at that first round it's definitely a competition to see who survived serial I mean he was in good shape there it was glorious
Another great series!
The intensity is epic!❤
wait wait wait... you can repair banshees? Next thing I'll see is Clem repairing medivacs!
The comments in response to official cast of this series were so bad that they took the video down. Can't even find it on my history.
Maybe they'll just get winter to do em from now on
Winter seeks out Clem vs zerg matches so his regicide joke hits harder 💀🤣
Music 3:52 ?
What a damn good series
Another match of the year? how many is that now? we need a MOTY counter. =D
I liked this one a lot more than serral vs maru (dont tell the algorithm)
@@WinterStarcraft sounds made up :/
I dont mind lowko but your streams are far superior
How TF did serral not loose all those units at 27:34. Insanity
Serral and serral alone truly creates a problem with zerg. For the most part the game is incredibly "balanced" with a few exceptions. ( protoss just needs a fucking tiny push. Like a 1%increase across the board.) However serral just does things that doesnt seem human. Zerg truly is the race when played absolutely perfectly with no messups, perfect creep spread, perfect injects, perfect control of major spellcasters, feels unbeatable and there is just tiny glimmers of that when serral plays. When he is "on" the entire zerg race as a whole feels unbeatable.
@@Intensi0ns I have said for years that Zerg would be considered underpowered if Serral didn't exist.
Jesus man, i am old, used to watch winter back in the day, now i come back and he is balding. Times indeed change.
Bruh
He looks great, get out of here.
Ageing like a fine wine imo
I'm here for the personality. Al Michaels, Howard Cosell and Vin Scully, Winter walks with these cats in the SC2 casting realm - or whichever he chooses next?!. How do even script these one-liners, or is he just riffing? Zerg don't social distance, tf, that is funny....
I feel like we need to take a leaf out of boxings book and start the petition for minimum 9 rounds for big tournaments. First to 5 or a player just taps out wherever. Serral plays like Oleksander Usyk. He might give up a game or two here or there, but it feels the same as Usyk giving up a round; you just know he's going to win, either in accumulative load and fatiguing them with how incredibly actively he fights (translated here into the combination of macro/apm/awareness splitting (eg controlling 1, 2, 3, 4 armies + mining and macroing, etc).
Winter the call of 'Serral feels inevitable' - this is where it makes sense, if we just make it 9 rounds you can't help but think at the end Serral just rolls over everyone.
Ahhhhh what a game!!!
Can confirm, I am a zerg player and I absolutely do not believe in social distancing.
0:08 oh how easily zest is forgotten....a sad day for all zerg-kind
Is Terran meant to be able to beat Zerg on Radhuset Station? Or is it just thrown in the map pool to pad the balance statistics?
2 legends. Both players would have been worthy victors.
Sad on the combat shield in the last game.
This is certainly one of the games of the year.
The best games for the fans!
I thought Serral might actually lose from a tie or slight lead there before the endgame, which, come to think of it, I think I've literally never seen happen
Hell Yeah Son! Thanks for the content Big Winter Dawg! Take my thumbs 'ahp.
I don't know what happened in the game at all, all I know is that in every video I am liking and subscribing every 2 minutes
Thank YOu
Om nom nom
Omg game 2 sooo intense
These two play awesome games!
How many nerfs will it take to stop the only one player in the world?
They need to just accept the reality of “skill issue” not “unit issue”. Terran win using 1/3rd to 1/2 of the tech tree, while Serral forced to use 3/4ths to 9/10ths of tech tree just to make things work.
You video tittle is so correct
Cheers
i liked n subscribed just cause u were so darn polite
Clem cleming clems celmclemclem, like a clam!
bring popcorn
Second game is a prime example of how broken zerg is. And infesters almost winning the game with 1 spell is silly to say he least
You know i hate watching sc2 lately cuz even the pros are so oblivious i have yet to see when someone loses 20 workers or 60 supply army and are under on mining even have a slight chance of comeback usually when that happens its just them struggling to try to win. case in point im about 1:15:00 ish i dont know exactly when i just know when serral bane busted his supply line i dont need to watch anymore its done
good cast
While Serral is the GOAT, Clem clearly is in a leage of his own as well! These are the two best players in the world righ tnow!
Caralho de zerg, só emporcalha o mapa.
I wonder why these pro terran players don't use at least 1 raven against Serral and Dark? Their macro game always has a hidden infestor.
keyboard go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Are you coming to Dreamhack Atlanta so your fans can give you some high fives?
this game
Still waiting on those baneling nerfs, they arent supposed to work on armored stuff yet they wipe out everything regardless of tags...
back-step-ling!^^
The cards in the intro of these videos need to be a thing
I will be sad if Winter stops saying “a cyclone”
Press like so Jimmy can finally go on vacation.
Finally Serral 10/10/10
Well..... i tried to ladder on the na servers. im ranked 69 bronze league no cap. imma save my replays at the nice league. lmk if you want them
so close jesusss
Smash the like button!😎🤌
Terran doesn’t deserve to win.
Whenever they face any challenge, all they need is to wait for the opposition to get nerfed.
Infestor, broodlord, disruptor, DT, even banelings are all nerfed through the last few years while the bio army is never touched. The EMP buff and then reversion of the buff was simply the “balance” council reminding Terrans that they have an OP unit which didn’t need any buffs in the first place.
Mech is a smokescreen for Terran buffs. They keep messing with cyclones, pretending that Terran won’t go bio mine every game, but it’s simply to make bio openers harder to predict, forcing opponents to learn new early games that inevitable transition into bio mine. Supposedly “mech” units like widowmine, liberators and siege tanks are not specialized for mech builds at all. They come out with 90~100% effectiveness with no upgrades needed.
Zerg and Protoss know that nobody has their back. Because Terran is on the center of SC2 posters and loading screens, because Terran is the default race, the squeaky wheel that gets the grease, Terran will never be disadvantaged. The other races remember that winning is about playing better, that’s why they have players with superior skill, nuanced strategies and tenacity like serral, hero, dark and solar, while Terran players regress into repeating build-order and spamming mines. Why try any harder when doing the same thing already gets you 40% of the tournament money?
Nice
You have you 1194.. so you dont need more? Ok!
Somebody nerf this man! What the second-best player has to do just to take a game off him!
Terrain / Terran Inside Job? 🧐🧐🧐🙏🙏🙏😂😂😂
Im new here and i have some questions:
1. Is Jimmy real?
2. Are there ever more than 11 hundred and something likes?
Clem, you gotta have a raven for detection, my man. Those infestors are gonna give you an ulcer
Who's Jimmy? Is he real? is he there at all? Not trolling here, I'm genuinely curios.
Spoiler alert: he's made up. But somehow still very entertaining. Don't tell Winter I figured out his gimmick.