Eagles sign Saquon Barkley, does this put all the pressure on Hurts? | NFL | SPEAK
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- The Philadelphia Eagles have signed former New York Giants RB Saquon Barkley in a blockbuster deal. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and Dave Helman discuss how much pressure is on Eagles QB Jalen Hurts.
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Duh…. Can’t do it without help, this ain’t tennis or boxing it’s 21 other starters and they all need each other!!! Football is a true TEAM SPORT🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
Bro last year was pure coordinators shitting the bucket. He’s done amazing every year
He had alot of turnovers but I thought he still had a ton of clutch moments. The entire team collapsed at the end not just jalen.
Thats simply not true. In fact it's the opposite. He had one good year with 2 amazing coordinators. Hurts has been just OK every other season
No he hasn't. He had that one year when they went to the Super Bowl and that's it. Most of his success is deep ball to A.J and the push.
Boy got them Penn State miles on him too 🤣🤣
They totally over look that, if Kellen Moore is atleast half of Shane the offense is good,we don't know about the defense
hurts can’t be put in the same conversation as Dak Prescott. He actually made it to the Super Bowl.😂😂
Hurts is dogshit you eagles fans 😭
Dak would have made it in that team also. You dragging Dak thru the mud for the fails of the organization.
@@SteliosKantosweren’t you all self proclaimed Super Bowl contenders last year😂😂
@@SteliosKantosweren’t you all self proclaimed Super Bowl contenders last year😂😂
@@FerretRayand the year before that and before that and before that. Need I go on.
Dak would not have made it with the same team.
HURTS NEVER MADE EXCUSES.
Hurts doesn't, but Shady and Joy have for months until it got so bad that they simply couldn't continue to make excuses
@@jctsliceyep. They had on some captain save a hurts hats
@@jctslice nah
So what he still took a step back
@@757CitiesReppaidk what you're disagreeing with, but I'm sure you're on the wrong side of this one buddy
IF HURTS WERE TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL EVERYONE WILL JUST SAY HE HAD HELP
Beooooo you hit it on the nail but that’s the world we live in now 😂
Hurts has a better chance now with better coordinators
Yup they said that with Mahomes his first superbowl
@@Uso_Wakka facts I remember it’s wild like he isn’t out there slinging it
No they wouldn't. He got full credit for beating cupcakes in the playoffs to get to the SB. He had a stacked roster in 2022 and 2023.
Dave is talking more real world while the other 3 are talking about the media. Philly is a tough fanbase and they don't care if you have a ton of weapons or if you dont have any they still will bring the heat on the QB. Hurts and other QBs don't care what the talking heads say.
joy: thats the question but this is what they really meant 🤦
Facts! THANK YOU!
Jalen Hurts went 11-6 and missed winning the division by a game. He won games in the middle of the season despite some of the worst offensive schemes in the league. He never made excuses and puts more pressure on himself to win than these guys on TV do. They're just rooting for him to fail.
Acho once said he'd been "Exposed" but to claim that would mean HE was telling the lie. You All, the media, make evaluations and when it doesn't turn out as YOU thought it would, they've been "exposed." Jalen's never told any stories or claimed anything. All the expectations they had were based on his performance and not some subterfuge to be uncovered and "exposed."
Exactly bro. And even worse defense schemes at times. Was Jalen his best. No. But he had no help all season it felt like
Wasn't Hurts literally leading the MVP convo 11 games into the season? Especially after the win vs Buffalo. They fell off after SF but to say he stunk all szn is wild lol
Imagine, in a parallel universe, Hurts ripping up his contract, forgoing his Eagles money, and becoming a FA, how many teams would ditch their QB and instantly sign him for 50mil grtd/y ? 25 !
EVERYBODY SAID THE EAGLES WERE DEAD YESTERDAY NOW THEY HAVE PRESSURE TO WIN THE SUPER BOWL?
😂😂😂😂
Their defense and Jayleen need to play better!
Because of Saquan Barkley, at that.
After all those New York City miles on his body…
Howie season
@@AmirKhan-yv8jm my favorite team's O-LINE needs to step up?!? LOL
You don't watch football.
Every season, The Birdz are in the conversation for best O-lines in the league. Jason Kelce is the best Center to ever play, YES MY BIASED OPINION, that said we've had others on that same line playing great. Lane Johnson, Jordan Mailata, Landon Dickerson. Cam Jurgens is good. Even the backups step-up when needed.
We only agree that the back 7 of the Defense needs to step-up. CJGJ will help with that.
Statistically Jalen was better than 2022 only thing he regressed to was INTERCEPTIONS. He was hurt last year and still threw 4k+ yards with Brian stinking Johnson offense
He wasn't better. He had slightly more yards, which he should've had with over 70 more passing attempts and over 40 more completions. But his yards per game were down, his completion percentage was down, and he threw 9 more interceptions with only one more touchdown. And we haven't even touched the advanced stats which are less kind.
@@napoleonj1735 Advanced stats? 6th lowest turnover worthy play, 10th highest QBR, 6th highest graded QB ALL WHILE HAVING THE WORST PLAY CALLING IN THE LEAGUE!
@@napoleonj1735advanced stats tells the whole story
He definitely didn’t throw for 4 k yards lol stat off madden
@@camvole8806 Not really since they have to be taken with a grain of salt.
It’s crazy how coaching and play calling gets no fault at all
WHAT ABOUT HERBERT PRESSURE? LAMAR PRESSURE? JOSH PRESSURE? JOE PRESSURE?
They'll be covering them in later videos. They are very biased towards Jackson and Herbert
How long you want the show to be? 🤣 Or are you trying to say these guys aren't under pressure?
All got pressure but Hursts got the most wepons which is why the made a point to highlight that in the beginning
you have lost your mind if you think they are biased for Lamar. they have never given that man any grace. the only ones who get that biased take is Herbert, burrow, and josh Allen. that's it!!!!!! @@maskedman5657
Burrow lowkey proved himself by beating kc tbh hahaha but agree with Josh " poor josh" all the time and hebbert too , yes pressure for lamar
These clowns have no idea what really happened with the downfall of the eagles. The defense was riddled with injuries when they got to 10-1. There was no Dallas Goedert for 4-5 weeks of football which ruined that offensive gameplan since Goedert is crucial. FINALLY the real reason they fell apart was their OC Brian Johnson was beyond idiotic with their play calling ever since week 1. Pure talent got them to 10 wins. That DC Sean Desai failed that team & even Matt Patricia couldn’t save them with those secondary & Linebacker injuries. Maybe real analysts would figure this out.
Siriani was idiotic with the playcalling...
@@jonpoetical maybe u forgot Nick literally said he’s not calling the offensive plays in the offseason & he was true to his word lmao. Dude didn’t play call the offense. All Brian Johnson.
The national media doesn’t actually watch Eagles football. Any QB with Brian Johnson as his play caller would regress SIGNIFICANTLY. Expecting a huge bounce back year from Jalen with real coordinators.
@@thegatorboys4183 Yet he made Kyle Trask and Dak Prescott Draftable. This is all Siriani. The Eagles knows this, that's why they fired Siriani from the offense.
All the excuses are null and void when you are one of the top 3 highest paid QBs.
One of the dumbest debates I ever heard
How is this dumb conversation? hurts nearly has a roster as good as the 49ers on offense. Of course he should have a lot of pressure on his shoulders.That’s a perfectly reasonable conversation to have especially since he was just in the Super Bowl two years ago he made all pro second team and he was in the MVP conversation.
@dariusjohnson6013 Nearly??? We need to stop with this. That Eagles o line was and still is at this moment better. They have comparable players at every other skill position. A.J is better that Aiyuk. Smith and Deebo wash out. CMC is better than Barkley. Kittle and Godbert are both great catchers but Kittle is a better blocker. Only clear advantage is the niners have a full back.
@SteliosKantos Its a dmb debate. They are not the 40 whiners. And Hurts is better than Purdy. There is no pressure in him he just has to play his best which is what he should do anyway. Now enjoy ✌️
@@SteliosKantos they are nearly the same just like I said. You typed all that just to tell the world you don’t have comprehension skills 😂
@@dariusjohnson6013Niners defense and coaching staff is still way better than Philly
Why would there be pressure on Hurts. He proved he's a dominant QB. All he has to do is limit his turn overs.
It’s so weird how people literally switched up on Jalen hurts 😂 hurts never make excuses.
Never thought he was that good. He balled out in the Superbowl tho can't take that away from him. He def earned a eyebrow raise. Other than that tho he hasn't really impressed me playing as a QB.
Trashing players and coaches alike is their bread and butter. They salivated when Russ embarrassed himself in 2022. They're salivating over Daniel Jones's ridicule contract, or Mac Jones's demise. They can't wait to see Tua, Russ, A-Rod, Dak, or whoever "fail". I wanted to hear what Saquon could bring to Philly, all I got is some Hurts bashing. Whom they idolized 14 months ago.
Whether you make excuses or not, losing games is unacceptable to your fan base, especially when most of the lockers fall on your shoulders and we’re watching what we thought was last year of talent around the league win games
He had 1 good year out of 4 lol that’s why
Hurts win % since a starter is very high. 34-17 so most of this debate and comments are invalid but ok
Jalen Hurts was graded the #6 QB in production last year according to PFF. That’s coming off a superbowl loss and losing both coordinators. It’s pretty clear Acho and James Jones have a vendetta against him. Jalen Hurts is a top 5 QB NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
If the conversation was about Justin Herbert and the Chargers then Aiko would have an aneurysm
🎯🎯🎯
The loss of the coordinator can't be ignored, but Jalen's production in 2022 was eye opening. And so in 2023 you expect him to exceed that, even with the loss of a coordinator, especially because the former QB coach was still there and the head coach who is offensive minded is still there. Jalen was paid to be more productive than #6, particularly with the skill guys he has. Also when looking at the games, the production doesn't tell the whole story. His mechanics and reading of defenses was lacking.
Facts
@@jimmytwotimezYou’re talking about an offensive coordinator who was in his first year calling plays
Jalen did not stink, he was the 6th graded qb on pff, he was 7th in EPA, 7th in success rate, & 10th in QBR, the previous season he was top 3 in those categories.
The team went 11-6 despite the defense being ranked 30th in everything
James & Acho are just haters
Wtf is success rate? 🤣🤣
@@LKS-M9323 I believe it's a stat like Passer Rating
@LKS-M9323 you don't know what success rate is??
He did stink..They got smoked by Baker in the playoffs..Stop making excuses you Philly clowns
@@Reefthaloc4950 its a percentage of time a play produces a positive EPA
They had some of the worst play calling last year and still beat the chiefs bills and dolphins. They rode on pure talent
hurts didn't play great, nor did the team after a 10-1 start, but after that buffalo game we were talking hurts for MVP. He was also tied for 2nd in total TD's in the NFL.....that is not a MAJOR step back. Yes, Hurts underpreformed down the stretch but the entire team folded. With better coaching I think Hurts will throw 25-28 TDs and run for another 12. Hurts is right on schedule. With better play design I see him having a great year.
Isn’t that how sports work? You bring people in to help your star? 😂😂😂 goofy, who wins in any sport by themselves? It’s a team game
Joy: "I want to have excuses if I fail". Dave: "I want to have weapons to succeed". Different upbringings, I guess.
You right except for tennis and golf
Love seeing Dave back; quality analysis
Dave made the most sense
And he's clearly outsmarting hysterical Joy at every turn.
i like dave.. dave has common sense
Agreed 💯
They so worried about Jalen when our defense trash!
They've forgotten a 4 months-old season, already...
This season was NOT on the players. 1000% coaching staff.
Agreed. Well.our secondary wasn't good. I'm glad we got Gardner -Johnson back. But yeah our coordinators were brutal.
Pretty asinine to think he has more pressure when clearly everyone knows the pressure was on this season trying to overcome coaches/coordinators who had no business coaching. Hurts still was very much rated top 10….dont know WHAT James is smokin, he just said out his own mouth Hurts was still second team All Pro
The logic on this show forever confuses me … they said based off last season you can’t call hi a top 10 QB this year. That’s just dumb because by that same logic we gotta not call Burrow a top 10 QB and that’s also dumb
And those same people can't name 10 qbs better than him
I watched the eagles run 4 verts on 3rd and 2 almost every game last year. If you looking for why jalen didn't play well look no further than the coaching staff.
This show ain't the same without Shady
I fully agree 💯
Fascinating, and fundamental, divergence in attitudes and mindsets:
Joy "If I have more weapons, I am under more pressure because I run out of excuses should I fail".
Dave: "If I have more weapons, I am under less pressure because I have more chances to succeed".
One looks for safety in excuses. The other looks for safety through success. Should I hire or trust one of those two, my choice would have been made right there.
All pressure was on him when he signed a 200m contract. now he has a competent OC and elite players at every position.
Its crazy how they dont talk more about how bad our coaches were last season ...
There is almost no real pressure on Jalen Hurts because of his contract. He doesn't have a reasonable dead cap hit until 2027. All the pressure is on the head coach. If Jalen doesn't perform with all these weapons there will be a new coach in Philadelphia.
100% it's on Sirianni. Jalen has proved he could rival Mahomes on the biggest stage. Only Burrow can boast that feat, simple at that. As for decent dead cap, I would even say 2028 (2027 is still 44 mil...). Peace, Nap.
“To whom much is given, much is required”
No excuses
I hate how they say hurts had such a bad year but then turn around an say josh Allen had a good season 😭😭 they said u can’t put him in top 10 qb play but put josh in the top 5 the biased is so real
The pause before James said “He Stunk!” 😂😂😂
It’s true, No Excuses for Hurts and he has Kellen Moore who is a very smart and experienced coach. IF I see the same dumb mistakes, then He is what he is and the Eagles will have to consider drafting a future replacement in a future draft..
In Philly you don’t have to be the best but you better be putting in the effort to be.
Eagles also have one of the best olines in the league even without Jason, so really they offense should be better than the niners even had last year.
🤫 they think our line is trash smh 😂
I think Dave is definitely shifting the conversation but that line, "Would you rather have Saquon or grace?" was hilarious 😆
Acho love sounding smart. He said bottom 2/3 of the league like that’s not the same as saying not top 10 😂😂
The pressure is on the coaching staff. Jalen already showed he can ball out but took a huge step backwards when his coaches left. Now the coaches need to show that they can utilize the weapons they have which they could NOT do last year.
There’s a difference between pressure and expectation.
Acting like the eagles defense wasn’t the bottom of the league.
Did his offense of coordinator get fired because he couldn’t call please?
Offensive Coordinator***
And I wouldn't say he couldn't call plays, I think his system just didn't mesh with Hurts' play style. Also, he wasn't "fired" per se, but just isn't returning for the 2024-25 season.
@@robg8203no he couldnt call plays
If anything the pressure is on the OC and the Head Coach. They gotta call the RIGHT plays and SCHEME these weapons open…
Dave is right. The pressure is off of hurts bc the eagles were begging for him to save them every game.
I love Dave bro
There is pressure on everyone. Its Jalens job to manage the pressure as the leader, but the pressure is on everyone from all of the players on offense to the offensive coaching staff. But I believe Jalen and Kellen Moore will be a match made in heaven. and Jalen is gonna have his best season
The headache segment 😂
So nice to see Dave Helman back for a show or two :)
Agreed 💯
No one on here is talking about the Eagles offensive coordinator last year the 49ers have had Kyle Shanahan that’s a big difference
He STUNK!
Hurts is young, black, paid, QB of the Eagles. He knows it’s pressure but y’all are haters. His cap hit is lower than 165 other players. It doesn’t hurt the team, yet.
Can’t be mad at Hurts that Howie is investing in him.
Who cares if he's Black?
In Jalen hurts career he only had the same coordinator once for back to back years and the second year he went to the superbowl let’s not forget this man been learning new offenses like every year.
Hurts did a heck of a job last year considering coaches and coordinators were brain dead , on running schemes and just pure Coaching , and OH by the way he was truly hurt and yet he never complained or threw anyone under the Bus he's a true leader and stand up guy. Go Birds....... I'll be looking at the coaches this year, not Hurts, he checks the Box. Go Birds
Joy basically is saying "we're talking about media pressure"
Yall quick to make excuses for guys like fields but will never give hurts credit lol. Blows my mind
“Huge step back” is an overstatement. His only regression was he was more antsy in the pocket. Analysis shows that Hurts performed OK, but the offensive scheme wasn’t as good.
Y'all are my favorite show
I love y'all show, but y'all do too much flip flopping
MAN WHERE SHADY AT
Crazy not talking about the play calls being horrible for Hurts last season compared to Purdy
IF Jalen Hurts win the Bowl 🥣 this year I would not care what people say about him winning having new help in sequan. Other top teams have help , so what's the difference, get real people, that's what winning football is about. Go Birds....
This is Speak guys buckle up. They got some bafoolery to talk about today.
Dave and Joy arguing but they’re both right DEPENDING ON what angle you’re looking at as far as pressure but let’s be real, with Saquan there now, the pressure just went sky high.
James said the OC wasn't helping hurts out just a few months ago. He said that the offense was terrible.
The fact that y’all comparing Hurts and Purdy is crazy, when Purdy had the THE BEST RB in the league… and all the injuries that happened last year on the line ? These folks forget easily
No mention of the historically bad defense, especially down the stretch, is comical
James is right. The pressure is on Hurts and to a lesser extent the offense because they haven't really improved their shoddy defense. They're loaded on offense and gonna have to outgun teams, have a lot of 41-37, 38-35, 44-42 games.
The pressure is 100% on Sirianni, and a little on Kellen Moore. Hurts is safe because of his contract. Besides, Hurts is a top QB, NFC title, huge support from dawgs team mates, self confidence is intact (he's not Mac Jones, Tua or Kenny Pickett).
DAVE is Back 🙏🏼
Every starting QB in the league has pressure & every team has weapons & some teams weapons are better than others. It’s comes down to how you setup & use those weapons, the Ravens have weapons but didn’t use them right against the Chiefs. The Eagles had weapons & didn’t use the right the 2nd half of the season, Dallas has weapons & didn’t use the right in the playoffs.
Pressure = expectations x 10 or so ???
But Pressure, is also subjective.. which causes the differences.
Pressure on Hurts: the better help he gets! The more pressure is on him to perform! To not let the rest of them down!
Shady would shut all of them down for talking ish 😂
The problem last year was Brian Johnsons playcalling. The calls since week 1 were absolutely awful, there was no rhyme or reason to any of the playcalls
Jalen was never elite nor the reason why the eagles went to the Super Bowl everyone became delusional and annoyed him elite and overpaid him and now they wanna be more offensive but the thing that got them to the Super Bowl was that generational defense
Yo Joys bracelet keep making the noise 😂
They don’t wanna bring up the OC change that really affected the offense?
Im tired of the disrespect of my quarterback! He is the quarterback of the Philadelphia Eagles. He lives in pressure every day. He's our QB1! Our whole team took a huge step backward! No matter if we had Barry Sanders Jerry rice and Devante Adams. Jalen would still have pressure!
Eagles need to hit on the draft again this year!
Show is waaaaay better with Dave
Hurts is a good backup that just prolonged his job due to the saquan signing
It’s amazing how they make certain excuses for certain players
What key pieces did we lose in the defensive side of the ball?????
trying to portray Jalen's performance last season as "stinky" is extremely harsh
Helman > Shady, the difference in intelligence and meaningful contribution to the conversation is crazy 😮💨
Shady is intelligent. What you mean? This dude just gave Dak an out. Watch he will use this later.
Agreed 💯
Dave the only one speaking facts. Anybody who watched the eagles closely, they know they had one of the worst coaching situations in all of football
I’m amazed. For once, Joy didn’t remind us that Jalen Hurts is an All-Pro or MVP candidate from 2 years ago 😯
Update: Nevermind, it happened at 8:33 🙄
I think it does and I think if he struggles again this year, let's have an honest conversation. Is he really better than Dak or did he just have 1 fluke year better than Dak's best year with a historically stacked Eagles roster ?
PFF had him Number 8 this past year. I'm not a fan of PFF, but somewhat agree. To say that he was horrible last year is laughable.
Wasnt Purdy getting no credit and hate because he had all these pieces around him…so now with Hurts..? Same thing right..?
It seems like Philly signs a new RB every year. As a cowboys fan I’m jealous of their front office. Lose a player and replace him in free agency or with draft picks acquired through trades. Congrats Philly I know y’all still have some holes to fill, but you’ve got the best front office in the league.
“Would you rather have Saquon Barkley or grace?” 😂 Dave is a great guest
And he's clearly outsmarting hysterical Joy at every turn. TJ Houshmandzadeh used to do the same.
That’s if we get a drag, check down and go ball. People don’t realize the play calling was terrible
People are acting like Philly had some scrub at RB last season. D'Andre Swift is a very good player. Had 1,000 yards and averaged 4.6 ypc. The only reason he had only 5 TDs instead of 10+ is because of the brotherly shove. Hurts HAS to play better next season. If not, it will be one and done again.
You can’t fairly compare Purdy’s situation last year to Hurts’. The coaching situation of the 49ers was miles better than the Eagles and it showed. A much better comparison is Josh Allen and the Bills. He arguably had as many weapons as Hurts did, but struggled in the beginning of the year due to bad offensive coaching. Then the Bills switched coordinators mid season, and what do you know? They improved.
Bottom line, when a team struggles, you can’t pin it squarely on the QB for not being able to overcome bad play calling. In those situations there’s only so much you can do, unless you’re Mahomes.
I LOVE THIS I WILL REMEMBER THIS THIS TEAM IS GOING TO BE DANGEROUS FLY EAGLES FLY
Somehow these deep thinkers turned signing Saquon into "more pressure on Jalen". As if he already didn't have pressure. He had pressure to deliver the year he took them to the Super Bowl.
How about Justin Fields as a backup!😃
If these people actually watched football they’d understand why Jalen took a “step back”