I don't really understand why Bjornfang doesn't work with Ancestral Guidance or Banished Lords Talisman, but does work with Starless Skies. (I haven't gotten the Crown of Lucion yet so wasn't able to test that one) According to the wording on Bjornfang, you get unlimited resource. It doesn't make your skills free to cast. So technically you are still spending resources. If it is intended that it doesn't work with Lucion or Ancestral Guidance, then they should word the gloves differently; Your skills that consume primary resource, cost 0 while cataclysm is active.
Cool build on PTR, but remember, all of this could just evaporate when S5 goes fully live We also don't even know what the reworked Uniques we have on live will look like.
@goblin inc. - wouldnt using locran's amulet be better than envenom now that the crit damage from the effect is multiplicative and also you can reach +50% crit chance off the amulet and max out 100% crit chance. seems like BiS amulet unless they nerf but i dont think they will. Tooltip says its additive crit dmg but its been tested and its multiplicative
I moved Tyrael to this build and removed tibaults. Its working pretty good. Just masterwork spirit on boots and res cost reduction on ammy or wep. Playing with Crown of Lucion.
I can confirm first hand that the new helm works with Bjornfangs, so does starless sky. I have a feeling the Ancestral Guidance interaction is a bug as the gloves do say "unlimited spirit" not "0 spirit cost". On the constricting tendrils node I actually prefer it to using poison creeper as it frees up an ability space for more defensives, and I find it staggers bosses quicker/ more consistently poisons groups of mobs
So I take it the Trample slide variation will be a good one for next season? I am a druid main and the only build I run every season would be Pulverize. I have tried lightning storm last season but even then, I reverted back to Pulverize because I feel that being a insanely tanky bear and conducting slams on target to evaporate them is a great feeling. Its like telling them get the F away from me or Begone Pest!!!.
I like Earthen godfather better(earth daddy, best nature fury build) than pulverize but it's very close. The melt damage is just better overall once it stacks and overlapping.
@@lfm1730 That's the big issue, now that shepherds isnt in the game, there rly aren't any good aspects for the gloves. Most damage we can get for that slot is about 30%, so maybe accelerating is nice for the "feel" of the build. Test around a bit =)
Anyway I can get into contact with you, specifically for help, I'm actually getting worried all my grinding for stormslide has been in vein after looking at the patch notes, anyway I can preserve it or will it flop once season 5 drops
hi all i look for OLD Trampslide druid build when u add off hand to this build Landslide Druid (S5) and add aspect to use trample and cast 6 landslide. Its be a good build ?
Unpopular take; Pulverize good ≠ druid good. Druid can be good without pulv being the star of the show. Druid being good all around is just objectively better.
Does the Loghtning Storm attack speed "bug fix" also apply when casting via Natures Fury for Stormslide? I was kind of hoping that may help it keep pace with regular Landslide and maybe going 5/5 in both...
I’m still running my landstorm build from live servers but instead of shepherd I’m running accelerating aspect and it seems like more atk speed and it’s still good. Very tanky (pit 200) but dmg output is lacking
@@tasandmnm69 with the build set up the way it is lightning DMG hits harder and with most of the new aspects being lightning DMG oriented I don’t see maxing out both is gonna be beneficial. Pure landslide has high DMG cuz you’re fully built for it
@@darkvoodoo8003 You would think they'd both hit pretty hard since Nature's Fury makes each count as the other type...I wish it wasn't so expensive to test things out lol
@@tasandmnm69 that’s a the beautiful and ugly side of Druid u have many different type of DMG earth/storm/pets/wolf@bear/poison, so it’s hard to balance all that.
I just swapped out my shako for that in landstorm it's really good it works for the new helm and the new crit damage necklace. It's very good my landslide were hitting for 10-12 mil per clap. Felt really strong. And it could be better. But I'm using cat glove that helm and the new neck I'm doing double the damage I was before.
made a similar one, could go easily too pit101 with no problems and didn't use any mythic... there are some variants which doesnt cost that much to get them easily.
Some QOL changes id like with the druid. The shapeshifting passives, theyre an ABSOLUTE PAIN to maintain, especially bestial rampage. Why do i have to wait the 15 seconds then cast a wolf/bear skill then wait 2 seconds before the buff comes into effect. Either they got to scrap the 2 second wait or have the buff refresh the duration when you shapeshift. Same with quickshift etc.
@@nadeltrauma127 Yeah I am not either. It broke my soul when I saw all the new cool stuff Barbs and Rogues got and the majority of our stuff was pets or resources. Sad days.
I Believe Creeping death is one of the aspects you should use on this build. You get insane amount of Dmg from it. Based off the video I saw Your time Vs the times I am getting, you are slower and way slower on the bosses two staggers and he is dead. I also have very sub par gear on. Also didn't find you need shred to keep quick shift up. I was fine with blood howl but I upgraded it to the spirt you probably don't even need it and can put a point else where but you do need the reduce cooldown. I also use cast a defense skill you get DR as you need more DR to survive, And used Roar for more DR. But its still slow compared to Barb, Rogue, Sorc. EDIT: After trying a maxed endless tempest i think these gloves are a must. and scale with Thunderstruck node.
I am so sad that Stormslide isnt going to be competitive with regular Landslide 😕 I am very, very interested to see wgat your opinion is on Werenado and Werewolf LS after the Thunderstruck nerf. I just dont see how they will be able to scale to end game now but I figured with the Attack Speed bug fix Lightning Storm has a better chance than Tornado.
It is competitive as long as you are able to incorporate Quickshift into it. I was able to do 120 pitt with +12 trash tempers on weapons and +4 trash temper on armor+rings
@tasandmnm69 I got 101% uptime on quickshift. No wildheart. No waiting on roars, none of that clunky junky waiting on cooldowns or rotation. Oh and no spirit issues too. Literally hop right in and start spamming landslide and spam skills with no cool downs like no nerf incoming 😊
This build has a huge potential. Did you check the guy who did 130+ pit in S4? I have tried this on the PTR and going with vasily's as helm and insatiable fury as chest piece gives you 5-10 times more dmg. My regular crits are ramping up to a 100m or more. The OP crits have been going up to 200m+. It really is a boss/elite/everything destroyer, especially if the target is static and does not move too much. You can check on Rob's page the buils, it's called AK47 druid. Anyway I really appreciate the job you are doing, trying out the new stuff with new combinations. I hope they fix the gloves and their interaction.
I tried also max damage is 100m-400m crit op is 800m to 1b.. using Vasily hope they buff it more.. I'm using new necklace I almost perfect slot.. and pump to 350 spirits it can go up to 450 spirit if ga and crit damage.. using bestial rampage 50% more multiplicative
@@BaccaratPh that's interesting, but how do you retain resources, especially vs single target? I've tried Rcr, RcG and lucky hit restore resources. Not sure which one is the best. Anyway, are you using ursine strength for passive if you have the amulet and how do you compensate passives like envenom, wild impulses or quick shift on the amulet? Usually a nice amulet with some of those rolls is better than Locran's right?
Tbh build didnt feel good with Crown of Lucion. Mobs he killed good but on bosses was spirit problems and tibaults wasnt helping much because it was too complicated to have that much active buttons. Maybe with old shepard gameplay was that easy because not so much active buttons idk. Maybe amulet need spirit on lucky hit too and GA on resource cost red on 2h.
Everything is B or C tier compared to Barb...you always want to close a season with a Barb. Do not start with Barb because every char you roll after that will feel horrible.
man I want a bulwark pet build. stack that bulwark on pets and let them explode on people. loved the project diablo 2 druid pet builds. shame its not the same in diablo 4.
New helm is bugged and the amulet to dont dont make builds on that. They will fix those.... the helm scales infinite while it should cap with 5. Just saying builds are better without those atm.
@@AllrightNOR I don't believe in nerf because Blizzard buffed it precisely to cause more damage, and to date there are no bug reports. I even think that Blizzard should do a review, as I have the impression that it isn't much different from what we have today in S4..
Dear content creator... your build on mobalitics its insanely in pieces " tib's" has tempering on it first of all, second its nowhere near close to the build you show in the video, i have also tried your other builds and came to the similar issues regarding the guide so that seems like a full on clickbait or whatever....which i understand you get paid for it, but do us a favor and stop doing these videos so you dont waste peoples time and just let those do it who can actualy do it properly :)
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I don't really understand why Bjornfang doesn't work with Ancestral Guidance or Banished Lords Talisman, but does work with Starless Skies. (I haven't gotten the Crown of Lucion yet so wasn't able to test that one) According to the wording on Bjornfang, you get unlimited resource. It doesn't make your skills free to cast. So technically you are still spending resources. If it is intended that it doesn't work with Lucion or Ancestral Guidance, then they should word the gloves differently; Your skills that consume primary resource, cost 0 while cataclysm is active.
Must be a bug
Crown of lucion works with the gloves
@@tisk028that’s amazing.
Cool build on PTR, but remember, all of this could just evaporate when S5 goes fully live
We also don't even know what the reworked Uniques we have on live will look like.
@goblin inc. - wouldnt using locran's amulet be better than envenom now that the crit damage from the effect is multiplicative and also you can reach +50% crit chance off the amulet and max out 100% crit chance. seems like BiS amulet unless they nerf but i dont think they will. Tooltip says its additive crit dmg but its been tested and its multiplicative
You can also roll chance vulnerable on amulet if needed.
Why not use changelings on weapon for bossing?
13 ranks to lightning is still slightly weaker than 5 ranks to landslide in the ingame tooltip for anyone wondering. I was amazed when i saw that too.
I moved Tyrael to this build and removed tibaults. Its working pretty good. Just masterwork spirit on boots and res cost reduction on ammy or wep. Playing with Crown of Lucion.
I can confirm first hand that the new helm works with Bjornfangs, so does starless sky. I have a feeling the Ancestral Guidance interaction is a bug as the gloves do say "unlimited spirit" not "0 spirit cost". On the constricting tendrils node I actually prefer it to using poison creeper as it frees up an ability space for more defensives, and I find it staggers bosses quicker/ more consistently poisons groups of mobs
So I take it the Trample slide variation will be a good one for next season? I am a druid main and the only build I run every season would be Pulverize. I have tried lightning storm last season but even then, I reverted back to Pulverize because I feel that being a insanely tanky bear and conducting slams on target to evaporate them is a great feeling. Its like telling them get the F away from me or Begone Pest!!!.
I like Earthen godfather better(earth daddy, best nature fury build) than pulverize but it's very close. The melt damage is just better overall once it stacks and overlapping.
Why do you say that the accelerating aspect and the retaliation aspect are bad?
Compared to werebear aspect that is 55%, compared to old shepherd that was like 120-180%, they are bad.
@@ANDY_YTUBE Aa rightly so, but then the accelerating aspect is still bad? Is the attack speed it gives bad or?
@@lfm1730 Yeah its not great. 25% additive attackspeed is around 2.5 pieces of gear in attackspeed
@@ANDY_YTUBE Ah, then what aspect would you put instead of 25% attack speed?
@@lfm1730 That's the big issue, now that shepherds isnt in the game, there rly aren't any good aspects for the gloves. Most damage we can get for that slot is about 30%, so maybe accelerating is nice for the "feel" of the build. Test around a bit =)
Anyway I can get into contact with you, specifically for help, I'm actually getting worried all my grinding for stormslide has been in vein after looking at the patch notes, anyway I can preserve it or will it flop once season 5 drops
Thoughts on Bjornfang being changed to a ring?
hi all i look for OLD Trampslide druid build when u add off hand to this build Landslide Druid (S5) and add aspect to use trample and cast 6 landslide. Its be a good build ?
So will this even work early endgame without any unique... ?
Question. Tyraels work good or fury ins.?
Unpopular take;
Pulverize good ≠ druid good. Druid can be good without pulv being the star of the show.
Druid being good all around is just objectively better.
Bjornfangs works with the crown of lucion. I'm currently playing with it.
But they dont work with the keystone node on the druid paragon tree that gives you 30% damage when you spend 75 spirit.
Does the Loghtning Storm attack speed "bug fix" also apply when casting via Natures Fury for Stormslide? I was kind of hoping that may help it keep pace with regular Landslide and maybe going 5/5 in both...
I’m still running my landstorm build from live servers but instead of shepherd I’m running accelerating aspect and it seems like more atk speed and it’s still good. Very tanky (pit 200) but dmg output is lacking
@@darkvoodoo8003 Maybe since Landslide is so strong now maxing out both Landslide and Lightning Storm as high as possible will be a good play?
@@tasandmnm69 with the build set up the way it is lightning DMG hits harder and with most of the new aspects being lightning DMG oriented I don’t see maxing out both is gonna be beneficial. Pure landslide has high DMG cuz you’re fully built for it
@@darkvoodoo8003 You would think they'd both hit pretty hard since Nature's Fury makes each count as the other type...I wish it wasn't so expensive to test things out lol
@@tasandmnm69 that’s a the beautiful and ugly side of Druid u have many different type of DMG earth/storm/pets/wolf@bear/poison, so it’s hard to balance all that.
I just swapped out my shako for that in landstorm it's really good it works for the new helm and the new crit damage necklace. It's very good my landslide were hitting for 10-12 mil per clap. Felt really strong. And it could be better. But I'm using cat glove that helm and the new neck I'm doing double the damage I was before.
damage wise, landslide for landeslide, the vasily prayer damage is much higher than the crown of lucion on the dummy.
Same paragon tree or different? Differs quite a bit i think.
@@ANDY_YTUBE I just followed his PTR variant paragon
@@smjkxsnoopy Yea you cant use the same paragon board with different setups. Its not that simple.
@@ANDY_YTUBE do you have a paragon for the new helm ?
@@smjkxsnoopy no, im not on the ptr. Make your own mate 😃
what about shred? is shred great again? Please, do a shred one.
@@XCT82 by all accounts Shred definitely is not great again, far from it.
Poison shred was my all time favourite build, fuck blizzard for killing it altogether
will shred be viable for pit 101 speeds?
How are you going to level your Druid in season five?
made a similar one, could go easily too pit101 with no problems and didn't use any mythic... there are some variants which doesnt cost that much to get them easily.
I was wondering why you only take 1/5 landslide in your budget build
Quick question with the pulverize build can it beat a lvl 200 boss
A tormented boss? Yes it already can easily (although a bit slow). This can only improve after the next patch
Some QOL changes id like with the druid. The shapeshifting passives, theyre an ABSOLUTE PAIN to maintain, especially bestial rampage.
Why do i have to wait the 15 seconds then cast a wolf/bear skill then wait 2 seconds before the buff comes into effect. Either they got to scrap the 2 second wait or have the buff refresh the duration when you shapeshift.
Same with quickshift etc.
I'm not happy with where the overall Druid is developing, but first of all, thank you for the good work
@@nadeltrauma127 Yeah I am not either. It broke my soul when I saw all the new cool stuff Barbs and Rogues got and the majority of our stuff was pets or resources. Sad days.
@@tasandmnm69 wind shear without support from x'fal's or nature's fury with earth spike, what a disappointment
@@tasandmnm69 I love earth spike with the seismic-shift aspect but it's so useless thanks to the cooldown
ditto, i hope they take a good hard long look before s5
@@ViSongs482 PTR say no
I Believe Creeping death is one of the aspects you should use on this build. You get insane amount of Dmg from it. Based off the video I saw Your time Vs the times I am getting, you are slower and way slower on the bosses two staggers and he is dead. I also have very sub par gear on. Also didn't find you need shred to keep quick shift up. I was fine with blood howl but I upgraded it to the spirt you probably don't even need it and can put a point else where but you do need the reduce cooldown. I also use cast a defense skill you get DR as you need more DR to survive, And used Roar for more DR. But its still slow compared to Barb, Rogue, Sorc. EDIT: After trying a maxed endless tempest i think these gloves are a must. and scale with Thunderstruck node.
Where is the Damage over time in this build though? Landslide doesnt count as it does it?
@@Hudds857 poison creeper does, but after testing new unquies with landslide won’t be using this aspect.
Can anyone explain why his staff has the Damage Over Time?
I am so sad that Stormslide isnt going to be competitive with regular Landslide 😕 I am very, very interested to see wgat your opinion is on Werenado and Werewolf LS after the Thunderstruck nerf. I just dont see how they will be able to scale to end game now but I figured with the Attack Speed bug fix Lightning Storm has a better chance than Tornado.
It is competitive as long as you are able to incorporate Quickshift into it. I was able to do 120 pitt with +12 trash tempers on weapons and +4 trash temper on armor+rings
@@Chewi_Kitten Sounds horrible, I hate Quick shift and Wildheart...any shape shifting bonuses on short timers are just so damn clunky.
@tasandmnm69 I got 101% uptime on quickshift. No wildheart. No waiting on roars, none of that clunky junky waiting on cooldowns or rotation. Oh and no spirit issues too. Literally hop right in and start spamming landslide and spam skills with no cool downs like no nerf incoming 😊
@@Chewi_Kitten 😅
@@tasandmnm69 I mean, when you can get the bonus to like x112% damage at max stacks I can deal with the clunkyness
I heard that it works with Lucion's Crown
🌲🐺🌲 Buff Wolf!
why i dont see any lightning strikes ?
He's not using nature's fury
I‘m praying since closed beta for earth buff and it’s finally Not completly trash anymore 🙏🏻
Right? I just want landslide damage to be end game viable and able to handle bossing
@@PostprandialTorpor excatly don’t Need to be #1 druid build but atleast playable in endgame
Its very strong build, thx
Remember everybody, this is a ptr, the final product may be better or worse.
Always love your content but damn 101? So like 80ish pit pre mid season patch….yikes. Hoping for the best in S5
This build has a huge potential. Did you check the guy who did 130+ pit in S4? I have tried this on the PTR and going with vasily's as helm and insatiable fury as chest piece gives you 5-10 times more dmg. My regular crits are ramping up to a 100m or more. The OP crits have been going up to 200m+. It really is a boss/elite/everything destroyer, especially if the target is static and does not move too much. You can check on Rob's page the buils, it's called AK47 druid. Anyway I really appreciate the job you are doing, trying out the new stuff with new combinations. I hope they fix the gloves and their interaction.
I tried also max damage is 100m-400m crit op is 800m to 1b.. using Vasily hope they buff it more.. I'm using new necklace I almost perfect slot.. and pump to 350 spirits it can go up to 450 spirit if ga and crit damage.. using bestial rampage 50% more multiplicative
Earth might not be needed because of new amulet instant 50% crit chance
@@BaccaratPh that's interesting, but how do you retain resources, especially vs single target? I've tried Rcr, RcG and lucky hit restore resources. Not sure which one is the best. Anyway, are you using ursine strength for passive if you have the amulet and how do you compensate passives like envenom, wild impulses or quick shift on the amulet? Usually a nice amulet with some of those rolls is better than Locran's right?
Tbh build didnt feel good with Crown of Lucion. Mobs he killed good but on bosses was spirit problems and tibaults wasnt helping much because it was too complicated to have that much active buttons. Maybe with old shepard gameplay was that easy because not so much active buttons idk. Maybe amulet need spirit on lucky hit too and GA on resource cost red on 2h.
I really hope this isnt the only viable build. After playing a barb, this barely looks B tier
Everything is B or C tier compared to Barb...you always want to close a season with a Barb. Do not start with Barb because every char you roll after that will feel horrible.
That cooking though.
man I want a bulwark pet build. stack that bulwark on pets and let them explode on people. loved the project diablo 2 druid pet builds. shame its not the same in diablo 4.
That should be an Uber helm.
I think personally there is a better build which is using the new gloves. 3 to all core skills smells like natures fury build
New helm is bugged and the amulet to dont dont make builds on that. They will fix those.... the helm scales infinite while it should cap with 5. Just saying builds are better without those atm.
Noice!
It isn't a nerf, if it's on the PTR.
"good job", there was a ppl doing 108 in S4 without holybolts, but yeah u did 110 in S5 there is a good job there XD
The Basilisk needs a rework
Does it not proc cataclysm with natures fury?
Not a single build on Moba is the same as you show...
New best build? It's PTR bro
Probaly will be the best Build !
@@WesleyRodrigues-cx4zd or nerfed
@@AllrightNOR I don't believe in nerf because Blizzard buffed it precisely to cause more damage, and to date there are no bug reports. I even think that Blizzard should do a review, as I have the impression that it isn't much different from what we have today in S4..
By posting this we already know it won't be the best build because it will be nerfed. This is effectively a please nerf druids video.
Your build guide was not at all reflective of this build: a little irritating
check the ptr version
Dear content creator... your build on mobalitics its insanely in pieces " tib's" has tempering on it first of all, second its nowhere near close to the build you show in the video, i have also tried your other builds and came to the similar issues regarding the guide so that seems like a full on clickbait or whatever....which i understand you get paid for it, but do us a favor and stop doing these videos so you dont waste peoples time and just let those do it who can actualy do it properly :)
All these ptr builds are just use Crown of Lucion and smash lol. If blizzard nerfs that item Season 5 in trouble.🤣
First
season 5 isnt out yet only on ptr. They cahnge things alot till releas. this is just clickbaiting. just annoying
101 lol, i can kill 101 in 2 sec with my rogue
Wow, you are so strong. Can I be like you? Fucking 🤡