Gets teleported against their will, dumped outside, no home, no money, no way to make money since you don't know the language, and killed for something you "might" do. I saw the series until the end, but I can see why so many people dropped it after that scene.
Yep. I know for me personally, I like seeing the underdog win. Not get further dumped on for the evil couple to go on having a happy ending. I was actually cheering for pandemonium. That world and those people are pure evil. Yeah the priestess admits she’s the bad guy but I’m like, “well stop resisting and let your scum bag world come to an end or at least stop the people who keeps isekai-ing innocent children. I would like a season 2 because I want pandemonium to go full Overlord on their evil world. That’s why I watch anime. I like to see some retribution.
Yea this scene got under my skin for the exact reasons you mentioned. And then she goes on saying I’m pure and just. I stayed around for another episode and the show had the nerve to be cutesy and buddy buddy. Nah, fuck that. Plus there was no consequences for her actions, no remorse. Dude was forgotten. He didn’t deserve any of that. She deserves to be punished. I can’t side with a character like that, plus she’s not charismatic or cool. The only good thing that came out of me watching this show was that it inspired my own story
@thorcolossus if you gave it a longer chance you'd find out what happens if the lost ones are given a chance to develop their powers (nothing good) and that she knows everything she's saying is bullshit but she has to do it anyway because the lost ones can wipe out civilization if unchecked
It was actually dropped because so many male anime fans couldn’t handle their dreams of a waifu who follows you while you become overpowered fantasy being crushed. I mean, mans was already planning on going APE, the other lost ones we’ve seen are far more sorrowful.
Idk it seems incredibly dangerous. A major red flag was his lack of, “oh shit this could be dangerous.” Instead he is eager to learn how to become stronger. I’ve only seen this clip, but people capable of great destruction, without a beneficial goal are scary as hell. I’ve seen way too many gamers wield power as a toy. I myself have done the same, torture npcs over trivial dialogue, eventually desensitizing into a psychotic sociopath. You can say it’s just a game, but it implies the possibility of what you would do given power.
Girl was taken in from a young age and taught to kill kids with superpowers for the good of the world by the people who took her in after all her connections died. Meanwhile, there's a clear political struggle between the church that took her in and the kingdom, enough so that the Kingdom summons Lost Ones despite the danger they pose. As an avid reader of the Talentless Nana manga, I have some ideas on where this is going.
Yeah but also imo a plot line that consists of some girl executing kids who have literally done shit all in the new world they were forced into it’s very boring and sad, plus it’d get monotonous very quickly which is prob why they used the rip off Subaru ability where the girl rewinds time every time she dies if I’m not mistaken? (I only saw clips since I dropped right after seeing the boy get executed)
It annoys me that he died. I get that it would be a run-of-the-mill isekai if he lied, but still. The guy gets abducted from his home to a strange place, now he's homeless with no money and can't even speak the language. Then he finds out he gets the kind of power that every boy has dreamed of in the younger days but before he can get a good taste of it, he's murdered in cold blood for being a potential threat. It just feels wrong on so many levels.
Aye, that's kinda the point, that the selection process is completely arbitrary and in many ways, absolutely ruthless and fucked. And if she didn't kill him now he would have gotten fucked anyway later cause his powers corrode his personality. Fate had had a mean grudge against that poor sap.
Maybe she should have attempted to kill him and then we could have the story from two perspectives with him being bitter and angry and all and her following the original storyline after she assumed he died (I dropped after this scene btw)
Not a ‘potential’ threat. Their powers make them ticking time bombs. That’s why she needed to see if really didn’t have a power, cause she wouldn’t have killed him in that case.
Everyone who is isekaid in this universe is a ticking bomb. That's why the fact that he was summoned was reason enough for her to die. Whether they want it or not, they will be strong enough to destroy an entire continent. In short, people in that universe tried to get along with isekaid peoples before, but the result was always disaster.
@@vonivon_that doesnt help anything. Their powers are unpredictable. You’re eventually going to make villains and audience will hate you, vehemently. They’ll be cheering for the villain. Ex, If I got summoned to that world and she’d did that shit to me, given the fact that I try to live my life trying to be a good decent human, plus some people call me too nice sometimes too. Then I don’t know that world’s language, I don’t know the rules of the world and the only trustworthy person I met, tried to stab me in the brain, I’m turning into a villain. It’s not like I can get a job, become a naturalized citizen. It’s not like they’re going to leave me alone either. I didn’t ask for any of this. If I survived that bullshit she did, I’d probably set that whole world on fire, just out of spite.
Yes if she teach him and he becomes stronger and more have more control over his power is the moment he turn dark lol, power blinded people, heck even power in politiccal way are the same
que to 4 Major human error this event happen without Faust/Church involvement...Lost One want to go home and their power goes berserk one continent legit turned into salt
@@capbuster1424 i don't get the Nobles...if they want to topple Faust, just summon more Lost One with knowlegde and take over with civil advancement. Them summoning Pure Concept which can backfire (due to unstable emotion or the concept devouring their souls) make it looks like they're gonna start a war or something
@@tenshionslifer3031 I think every of the lost ones summoned have the power of pure concept...as Menou said in the 1st ep... And i'm not sure how powerful the Faust is...so I can't really comment on alternative methods....
@@tenshionslifer3031 I think they want to start a war. It's like how all the powerful countries here stockpile nukes: nothing good can come from nuclear winter. But if one side has bigger guns than the other, then they win. My theory is that lost ones are this world's version of nukes
I was shocked but at the same time I love this scene so much. This is literally the anime telling ppl it isnt a run-of-the-mill isekai. Ofc, for me, I read the synopsis first, so that was why I picked it up in the first place.
@@faith4657 No, I am a POS but I am not generic. I am unlike most people and I guess that's why I don't often fit in but I like to have enough respect for others to feel that enough people out there are not carbon copy paste characters once you get to know them.
Ironically, the comment literally sums up why they kill otherworlders. Because people like you have a power fantasy and would definitely use it for bad, like the black haired generic guy.
@@labbit35author of shokei shojou just make the boys anime version and turns average anime mc into Homelander, with same mindset too (I'll off anyone who disagree with me), and anime fans are shocked
For me this anime need to show both side to be really interesting .Her who want to kill the Lost One and The POV of the lost one going crazy or just trying to go back to their world. Like that I think we can have a better understanding of this Cold murder.
@@Shiraion It's literally in the 1st episode. Whether or not you agree with their motivations it's pretty clear the basic outline of what they're doing and why.
I remember being turned away from the show by this scene, not because 'muh self-insert' died, but because I had been reading some particularly good fanfiction that had a lot of the problems in-story be caused by a lack of empathy and some people making 'hard choices' that didn't really need to be made. Things got better when empathy and just genuine good human-nature started to affect the world (skipping a shitton of stuff) and it was a good fanfic, but, as a result, I was in a particularly empathetic mindset at the time and when the guy just got ganked, I was really annoyed at Menou. I put myself in that guy's shoes. I get ripped from home to some isekai adventure against my will and when I discover my 'uber OP power' that could possibly get me home if I use it creatively (because I can certainly imagine some way to get home with that ability), I get instantly killed by some moralizer who gives some bullshit lines about how 'she's the bad guy' and how I 'didn't do anything to deserve this' as if it made up for the fact she killed me. I didn't (and still don't) care about the fake-MC as a character, but the moralizing after murdering an innocent was what instantly made it go from 'this has irritated me' to 'this has made me genuinely kinda angry at a show and I don't like feeling this way', so I left. I like Yuri a lot and genuinely enjoy reading/watching Yuri stuff, it's always a good time, but I really hate the sanctimonious bullshit she said and that plus my mindset at the time made me stop watching. I had completely forgotten about it until this popped up in my feed.
You see, that's the problem. You refused to watch the rest and never got to the part where they literally explain how otherworlder's souls errode the more they use their powers, slowly erasing their memories until they go insane. This has happened 4 times already and each time a calamity almost destroyed the entire world. You're sad over one innocent kid, when that same kid was a walking talking ticking black hole waiting to blow a crater into the planet. Menou literally watched her entire town be turned into salt by a panicked other worlder. They are dangerous before and after death. She calls herself the bad guy because she is, she was trained to kill, to not think of herself as righteous, that she was the villain. Maybe watch the anime before making judgements.
I dont get it. All of this people talking about how they dropped this anime after this scene but this right here is what made me super invested in it. This and Mili doing the opening, of course. I am obviously not saying she was doing a good thing, but that is what makes it interesting.
@@simoncraddock1680 honestly im just waitibg for the "real" main character to be revived. Then when i realized that menou was the real mc i dropped it. Just ur typical assasain that is ofc from the CHURCH. Nah
The fact that so many dudes got so attached to the most boring guy in the world over the course of the 10 minutes he was alive should be mind boggling, but I've been in the anime community long enough that this reaction was completely expected.
You'd think these people would be happy that the show did something new for a change. They're hypocrites because they think this scene is wrong but praises lord ainz who killed innocent people over the course of his story with impunity
I think Mother's Basement put it best, but I will change what he said a bit. If you order a Big Mac for a quick lunch and then get served some fancy sounding French dish as they throw the Mac you wanted down the trash, it's not gonna make you happy. Some people just want their basic power fantasy Isekai. And they will not react positively if the show they think is that switches gears to be about someone who murders those protagonists. It's the kind of reception one should honestly expect when you do a bait and switch like this. The show is literally disguised to appeal to the people least likely to like it.
For anyone saying they got attached to the guy and dropped it cause his death it’s not that it’s how she can act so kind and loving like she’s your friend and makes you feel safe then immediately kills someone because they have the potential to have the strength to be a threat with no remorse what so ever and that’s slimy as hell, me personally if something in a anime happens that would affect me or upset me irl I don’t like it like rape scenes, betrayal ect just makes my blood boil and I’d assume everyone else that dropped the show feels the same. Most definitely not cause they got attached to the guy that gets killed it’s how the mc does it, she should have just killed him off rip like a cold blood killer would have made it way better instead of building a small bond first
@@bryanlouville30 I'd be willing to agree if the guy was the main character. Considering he wants to kill people after discovering his powers earned him a death sentence. Menou's world had experienced 4 disasters because of outworlders like him. Fuck that guy. I'm glad he's dead and not the main character.
@@bryanlouville30 Well obviously the anime is dark and most of the time isn't for the weak hearted, also her being friendly is a way to bring down the guy's guard because no matter who it is you can't be too sure what a person is capable of (you see this all the time in movies and shows relating assassins/mafia/etc). And what do you expect her whole personality and memories got erased and was then raised as a killer with no regard for emotions
I still get confused when people are outraged that this dude died. He was never meant to be an important character, he was quite literally written as the most generic isekai "mc" in existence so people wouldn't care as much when Menou iced him. The fact that anyone latched onto this dude in the eight minutes he was on screen speaks to a supreme lack of taste. It's like self projecting onto a cardboard cutout.
He got murdered blah blah blah. The entire point of Menou's character is meant to be that she's morally grey, doing bad things for an ostensible "greater good". The stuff with Akari is meant to be her wavering in that aspect once she isn't able to instantly finish the job and has to interact with her. This scene was supposed to signal to you that you're watching an isekai with an actual unique premise and an interesting morally dubious protagonist. Anime fans seem okay with that kind of thing when it's a dude doing it.
@@clairehickey9368 The "greater good" is used as an excuse to commit heinous acts. That's evil. One can only hope she gets atomized for good in the future.
The fact that people latched onto this character in just a couple of minutes means he was that interesting. If the other characters were more interesting there would be no one complaining. This is the same premise as Talentless Nana and no one was complaining about Nana killing off innocent people. As for self insert that people keep bringing up is actually funny because most people don't like self insert characters or else shows like "Smartphone isekai" would be called the best Isekai.
@@asandax6 Get a teraphy. I think what I said explains everything for what you wrote ^^ Keep having fun with copy characters and copy works until you get bored. After some point, it will surely dawn on you how valuable this kind of work is.
From what I understand, there are 3 sides in this community: Actual no-lifers who got mad that their power fantasy kid was destroyed Other no-lifers making fun of them instead of explaining what makes the scene good The smarter ones who actually went out of their way to explain why they like/dropped this show. (Like because it subverted expectations in a sensical manner because the otherworlders become killers as their powers corrupt them so it makes sense on why the kid had to die, disliked and dropped because the show didn't show this fact well at first and baited them that this would be a more standard isekai before just killing the kid outta nowhere aka the show suddenly feeling like it switched plots without explaining it much in-universe and having to rely on promotional material to do so)
Most of them use rage bait like smug edgy teens with deep "main character" syndrome. Trying to discuss philosophy with them is just as fun as shoving your head in a wasp nest.
Looking back I can see why some people didn't like this too well. It's just an odd feeling knowing that the protagonist of the series is a murderer who can and will continue to kill innocents. I'm not sure about what the novel has left off, but it's reasonable to not want to continue while being aware that the protagonist's entire purpose is to be a murderer of innocents, even with the whole 'theyre dangerous' plot point.
She knows she's a murderer but someone has to do it. If she let them go then another human error could occur and kill millions of lives. I wonder how different the reactions would be if the MC was a guy. Because Tanya and Redo MC and Ainz hands arv exactly clean either
@@anirudhsukigakirei9397 I find the "what if the mc was male" arguments to be so silly when you compare the first impressions and impacts of both sides. Unfortunately those 2 comparisons don't work how you'd like them to. Menou is evil, she admits she's evil herself, certainly. But there is a fine difference between her and the other two. Redo of Healer is a revenge story, Menou is not out for revenge. Menou is murdering individuals before they can use their abilities to cause harm. Incidentally, when she made Mitsuki use his ability, she basically corrupted him too. The more they use their abilities, the more corrupted they become. Tanya was established as a horrible person within the first few minutes. Though, it's still enjoyable since you knew what you were getting into the moment you turned the show on. The Executioner and Her Way of Life purposely did a fakeout (though people criticize others for even thinking that Mitsuki is the protagonist), showed the misfortunes of the character, and then struck him with an even worse misfortune by being killed by the person that he trusted the most at the time. Tanya was an enjoyable evil. Keyaru is out for revenge, and for most, it's satisfying, especially when you see what they've put him through in the past. Menou has been through bad things, but witnessing and feeling the impact of those bad things is enough to turn people away, which it did. When even the author of the novel said that he felt extremely guilty for what he did while writing that character and the scene, it's expected that many people turn away from it. Spoilers: It's even worse when volumes later, Menou loses the resolve to kill Akari, who has an ability that has caused the release of one of the great human errors, resulting in even more deaths. She expresses her guilt for killing so many innocent people, expresses how they've haunted her, and how she's wanted to take her own life as an act of redemption. Of course, she loses some of these feelings after sharing her memories/feelings with Akari. It's just unsatisfying to think that it took the murdering of so many innocent teens, forcefully pulled into another world, for Menou to then decide that she wants to start trying to help Otherworlders. To give her the benefit of the doubt, in Volume 5 it's revealed that Menou isn't even an actual person, but instead a body of Ivory's memories that she created to accompany Akari on her journey, so she most likely didn't even have much of a say in her future as an Executioner. This is just my theory though, until Volume 6 comes out. With all of this in mind-you'd know none of this as someone only watching the first few episodes before dropping the story. It's fairly reasonable for someone to lose interest after witnessing the murder that happened and finding out the truth that he was an innocent pawn sent out to die. Hell, even when Mitsuki's Null ability is used again in the future, it's openly said that it isn't even a threat singlehandedly capable of beating Menou in a fight (while being used by someone else). Tl;dr - Tanya and Keyaru have a satisfying appeal to them that is established quickly in the first few minutes of their episode. Tanya's psychotic atheist child-dictatorship is interesting to the people who are looking for it. Rarely does she actually go out of her way to murder civilians or something of the sorts-she commits war crimes against her enemies. Keyaru is a victim of kidnapping, rape, and dozens of other heinous acts and wants to get revenge against the people who wronged him. From the eyes of anyone watching the first episode, Menou is a deceiver who murders teenagers forced into a situation that she allowed herself to be inserted into. If we didn't get so much insight into Mitsuki's situation, there'd have probably been less people who dropped the story that quickly, honestly. If the first episode didn't have Mitsuki and only Akari, there'd have definitely been a lot of people who stayed and watched it. Like how Overlord only got into the grim murdering and betrayal in it's 2nd and 3rd Seasons.
@@sutyerator ...? This is such a bot-like comment. I'm pointing out why other people likely stopped watching the show. I find some aspect of it to be interesting and enjoyable, which is why I named occurrences in the novel.
@@zephe199 Long comment. But I read half of it. I get you. I dropped this show too at a point. But its mostly because it was so boring around episode 6. I already expected the church is kinda evil and she would probably not kill the OTHER summon. So I didnt expect anything new so it was boring. And + this. Out of all evil Main characters she wasn't one of those characters that I liked. Tanya was watachable. I stopped liking momonga halfway wer he went full evil to make his NPC followes happy. But still interestimg to see what happens to his undead kingdom. Talentless nana had the same premise as this anime. But talentless nana was more interesting.
"Oh no not my self insert! How can I convince my pussy self to be awesome if that guy got killed by events that I myself would probably take cause I'm boring."
@@SuperiorFirepower and that same guy could wipe out a country and no one is going to blink an eye to that. Why should I with him? Like there's also people in that world too ofc, they'll be rational and eliminate threats than become a potential liability. And if you actually pay attention to the plot, there are already guys like him... People are like "oh no poor kid 😥" when there are more messed up show out there.
@@jesusofsuburbia3675 They are killing Lost ones who could be used for good with a lost one whos job is too murder. They are not trying to protect people, they are trying to make sure they stay in power.
I was gonna point out that they cut out the part where he mentions he was planning on using his power to get rid of everyone he hated but it seems most of you don't care and that's just fine by me. Might not get a second season but for one moment I'm happy a bunch of people saw their over powered self insert get put down like a dog. :)
After watching the series, I get why she was so quick to kill him, but god that was SO COLD to watch. I just imagine how powerful his ability could have gotten. Spoiler-ish below! - Bro He'd be so terrifying if he used his ability and got consumed by it. Of course, there's always a chance they could have made him aware that the pure concept would take him over and remove his memories of japan slowly till his personality becomes basic likes, dislikes, and the pure concept. The ability to entirely destroy things like that is something that as a human disaster, would be nearly impossible to fend off, what could you do against a being that removes your body from existence? If he got entirely consumed by his ability, could he even be trapped? I get a lot of people would be upset about the death, as he was made to be the kind of MC that the audience can connect to- but the shock factor is what kept me there, as I found it so cool to see an Isekai world that deals with other worlders, and have seen how these OP abilities they get could destroy their world, so they take them out- taking the role of villains who murder innocents who have not done anything yet to avoid the inevitable. Honestly hyped to see if another season comes :D
All of you are tripping, the manga and the LN are amazing, sorry to break it to y'all but he was never meant to be the main character or anything, he was just a mean to introduce the MC. Also this is a wlw story. Always was, always will be. Get off the anime if you guys started judging it from ep 1.
You can exactly tell people to get off an anime if they choose to watch it, and even then how they executed that s*** was complete ass, even this entire s*** is rigged to fail like you some people from the other world even though genuinely nice people who actually risk their life to save others and they still turn out evil even though you have no proof that's kind of Jack though don't you think.
@@faith4657 so fron what i catched up they are like Christians killing everyone who seem to possess magic without second thought bc they might turn evil? And some dudes summon something called " lost ones " which seems to be something very powerful idk what it is so yea and to battle it you low-key need the magic?
@@wind4758 I mean anyone in my situation be triggered those who are used to characters like this. The entire point of isekai is basically someone like Us in a world like anime. And it basically just shot on the whole concept, I'm not saying that they can be different concepts but what played right here was just asinine would barely any other characters except for female characters to carry this lead.
@@armorfrogentertainment She still has power which is dangerous too everyone which is hypocritical. That guy wouldn’t have meant any harm or do any damage to anyone if she taught him. He potentially could harm people sure but so can she
@@MrJuicy08 everyone has a power in their world, like 90% of population. In theory 100% can use magecraft. They just need proper training and easy creast (circuit to channel ether). It not easy like Lost One who has like unlimited ether and almost perfect control of ether also Pure Concept errodes its user mind and then the user will become physical embodiment of the concept
@@MrJuicy08 *ep 4* Flare to Menou: your mana capacity is below average, you mana control is even worse, a tad below average so...still thinks she's OP, Her junior 2 years younger than her is more OP, meanwhile Otherwolder has unlimited mana and natural talent for magic
The girl is the protagonist. It’s obvious though she is warped, traumatized and brain washed. Should be an interesting series despite some of the haters
That's what I'm saying she is a lost one so they use her to kill others just like her epic. Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if that church organization is definitely the evil enemy of the story.
It's the same situation with Talantless Nana. They hate her just bc she's a MH and not Nanao. I mean they don't hate Yagami who is narcissist himself with messiah complex which ideas are totally utopian. Misogyny
@@dromdart3563 ya I saw a lot of hate for the show. This show probably isn’t perfect but it’s getting unwarranted hate. If she’s considered bland to some then that’s because she is still growing and maturing. We can also see how she witnessed a traumatic ice event which might be more than it seems
@@goddragon8637 he was being introduced as another boring self insert mc. I’m so fucking sick of that archetype in anime. Hence my delight when he got offed.
@@goddragon8637 naw, it's just as bad in context, he might a been another bland mc archetype, but he was completely innocent and the girl is part of a church cult that kills anyone that teleports to their world bc they r scared of what they could do, basically they racist to other worlders
Love the salty people complaining about people that dropped the anime after episode 1. Its their choice to do so, you seem butthurt for no reason at all. Grow up
@@Shtoops my dear I think you're confusing the term "subplot villains" with the term "main antagonist" I think I don't know it's been awhile since I've last been in school so my memory is a little hazy on grammar.🤔
Why even be nice in the first place if you were just gonna kill him? And then she goes on to apologize like an a-hole. Even later she apparently falls in love with one of the lost ones and she honestly just makes me mad. I was also hoping the anime would be about her killing corrupt nobles and stopping te summoning and shiz and thats it.
@@Mebiamiu cringe opinion. The biggest problem is there should've been more of it, like a 24/25-episode season, since it moved between plot beats pretty quickly and could've done with more time to breathe. I think they knew they probably wouldn't get a second season cos of dweebs getting mad, though they could've avoided all of that... The next biggest problem is that it should've killed off the boy in that clip even quicker and/or made it more obvious he was gonna be killed. Because then people who were always gonna hate it were continuing to watch, people who would've loved it were getting bored and dropping it, and people who would've loved it but don't like being mentally prepped for one thing and receiving another were getting mentally prepped for one thing right before receiving another.
Do you think his parents, friends, childhood friends and/or loved ones are still searching him? If this continues, then they'll give up and label him dead by accident or missing in action, filled with sadness and grief.
@@mystyle_jm8997 yeah they probably did label him dead but it’s sad because he had no chance no matter how much he wanted to see his family again as soon as he met that girl it was over
He will most likely kill the girl (because of his statement of " with this I can destroy anyone I hate " or anything along those lines, then will continue on as a generic isekai story
I've seen alot of hate coming from this scene alone, saying "that's what he gets for being in a Yuri" and "that's tragic she betrayed him" They obviously haven't even seen the first episode, as it's explained pretty well the problem with these Isekai'd protagonists. He was literally talking about using his power to crush the people who wrong him and reshaping the world, that only made killing him easier.
Well he was just a kid who just realised he has a super op power. I get that it's what the author decided to go for but still doesn't make it justifiable
@@undercoverA1 Do you hear yourself? You acknowledge he was about to become a tyrant and ur like "but he's a little baby boy!" He was 16+ at the very least. He knew what he was talking about when he mentioned "killing the savages and any who wrong him" and "changing the world" and you are saying "he just needs a talk, he def won't just delete me with his Void power." The Isekai'd teens in this world either go mad with power or cause a catastrophe in their ignorance. The girl here had her village and family turned to salt by one of them as a child, that's only 1 reason why she doesn't like them. Please watch just the 1st episode before talking out ur butt.
@@dmwanderer9454 ok ok... I might not have been clear enough. Lets start from the beginning. He was summoned into a new world without any consent from him. Was treated like literal shit, i'm talking about ancap levels of de-humanization, was told his power (one silver-lining in this shithole, one hope ) was literally nothing,and when he finds out that he has a super op power, literally the most important moment of his life, he experiences a powertrip. He says what's in his mind unfiltered because he trusts the girl. Why shouldn't he, she was the only person who treated him like a human in that pool of piss they call this world.Surprise! He is killed before he could even have a second thought. If you think saying "i can finally deal with any person who causes me harm" at that point in life makes someone a Tyrant and should be killed before he could even have another thought, and sympathising with him is pointless, You might be the real fascist. Also it's really hard to watch after first episode because after that point the protagonist becomes completely unlikable, but yet i'm currently watching 5th
@@undercoverA1 So if someone was unfiltered and became a racist, would you forgive them? Like, if someone got so angry they spouted bigoted and racist slurs, you would forget about it? 🦐 🧠 If you watched the episode, she tells him "it's not your fault you were summoned here." She did what she had to. Even if she spares him and he didn't go mad with power, he would eventually bring a catastrophe and end lives with his power. You would know this if you maybe saw 1 episode and not 1 synopsis or 1 RUclips short with sad music.
@@dmwanderer9454 read again, finished epi5 still getting vibes of wanna-be-rezero. And no I don't think if someone, after being treated horribly by a community says some horrible shit, deserves to die before having another thought. Especially if I know they are not actually talking out of malice. My point is only that "someone who emotionally manipulates someone to trust them and kill them in their most vulnerable state without elaborating on said character for more than a single fckin' episode can't be taken as a protagonist by ME". ALSO it also gives me some early aot vibes like "my books are becoming boring, well i'll just kill of a few characters" Also also, i would've forgiven it if his death had any meaning behind it. Like any other character was even affected by his death. Believe me if I say I would've liked this anime a little bit better if I started watching it from epi2.
Looking back, this isn't the most unique isekai in history cause there are glaring problems i ignored, it's just the reactions to his death was amusing
Nah, this turned what could've been a generic, by the numbers, crappy isekai into an actual interesting story about how a world so done with isekai bullshit deals with these teens messing things up cause they think they own the place.
As much as I would like to agree with you I cannot ignore the fact that some of these so-called teens/adults who run the world also include innocent people and just pure unlucky people.
Sorry man but I'm going to have to disagree with you there, not everyone needs to bend to your b******* or anything like this, why indulge in isekai when you know what you're going to get that doesn't make any sense to me like why you trying to change the pool, people like what they like this is isekai my n****. Even I indulging isekai once in awhile but I don't go in there and complain that the s*** is the same as every single regular thing even though parts of things are actually very different the stories align in different directions, most of the MCS aren't even overpowered or the most strongest in their verse, but I still go in there knowing that it's going to be the same as everyone but I still sit down and enjoy because most of it actually have very good detailed storys. I don't know about you though that's just all I got to say.
Be me: -Never even heard of this anime before. -This video gets recommended out of the blue. -Decides to watch and see what it's about. -See the protagonist kill a freaking CHILD because (according to the comments) he can POSSIBLY become dangerous. -Think "Ok, another generic psychopath protagonist that thinks he/she is always right". -Now i'm never watching this anime that can POSSIBLY be good. If the protagonist can judge a movie by it's unreleased sequel, so can I. See ya.
so what , you want another generic isekai anime where a twink gets powerups and some harem ? like we don't already have enough of this lukewarm copy pasted plots at least this one did something different 😂
- Those who use their concept get more corrupted - There were 4 "human errors" that were continental disasters - MC knows they're the villain and is willing to become one to prevent anymore disasters Judge knowing that your judgement may not be fully correct
@@sampeter1471 Using the same bland argument. Maybe they don't watch it for the "self-insert" stuff? What the hell is this obsession with self-insert protagonists? People don't like bland protagonists, they like it when they have a 'backbone'. Male or female.
For context. Why did she kill him? The power of the summoned ones eventually make them monsters no matter what because eat their souls so they have to kill them before they destroy the world. Why are they summoned then? Naturally the world for some reason summoned this kids and gives them this powers, but some magic aristocrats also summon them so they can fight against church, church is the responsible to kill the summoned ones and avoid world destruction just like it almost happen a centuries ago. So the girl is just killing all summoned ones? No, she actually finds a Japanese girl who can't kill due her power of time so she needs to find a proper way to kill her but of course she later finds a little more about the trues of the magic world
1. There's ton of proof that letting summoned people give catastrophe i.e salt continent or pandemonium prison sea wall 2. Faust is actually good guy, they were trained by Ivory hero 1000 yrs ago. Back then 4 kids were summoned to help this planet to the point they achieve space travel, but after a while their power started to consume them and these 4 find out there's only one material worth to open portal to real world, so they did battle royal, only Haqua survive but she get info that the time girl (her significant other) will be summoned 1000yrs from now), so with her pure concept "purify" she developed scripture magic and tools and entrusted Faust to prevent any Isekai people (not let them to take the loot). She'd figured Akari pure concept will give her ability to respawn and reunited
I still cant believe how people get mad of watching believable Story telling. Like ofc they would kill him, after what his kind did to this world. Do people think the people in another world would just act like Npcs?
Sure let's genocide these super powerful beings from another world until one of them survives and says fck the world it's them or me and fcks shit up, oh and did I mention this person might be unkillable.
People think just because it’s not your generic isekai makes it good 😂 just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s good but that’s just my opinion, it might be for some people it might not be for others, that’s just the way it is.
Logic? How are you pure and just when that dude was literally a kid with an innocent heart? 😂 Feels like shes just jealous of his power, ofc I know nothing about this show.
For the guys that ask: "WHY DID YOU DROPPED AFTER THIS?" Dude, she literally had 0 motive to build trust and the entire day with the day if the objective was just to kill him, she could just said to come to another place and kill him instantly, thats why i dont like it. I dont think its the most logical anime and the way that she killed him was so unespected that honestly i felt that i should watch this bullshit, they may do shit things again.
She was checking to see if he really had a power or not. If he didn’t, she wouldn’t have needed to kill him. That’s why she spent the day with him, but instantly tried to assassinate the other one.
@@nevermore7285true, she got Intel the king summon two lost one, if the boy is the decoy than the real one is the girl, no needs to investigate cause she's clearly the one who the king intended to summons
Why are people still confused on how upsetting this scene was? Of course people would root for the guy. That guy could've been us. Taken from your life without consent, dropped on a foreign place with nothing but your underwear, only to be slaughtered in the end because of something you "might" do? And people expect us to root for the girl smh 🤦
Most people watch an anime, not because they can say “hey, that’s me!”, but to be entertained. The anime has a good world building and an alright character portfolio. The “might be” phrasing isn’t accurate when 100% of the summoned ones needed up being destructive. We don’t expect you to “root” for anyone, just realize that some animes or media may incorporate different themes than what you’re used to.
oh boi the huge amount of dopamine that rushed through my body when Menou stabbed this guy's head, and more when she confirmed he's dead. It was the best scene, it's like i see the great light of freedom from ducking isekai+shounen+powah+harem-ish trend. tho the anime did feel over edgy on the last few episodes, i like yuri and i like edgy/creepy but it felt like they kinda overstepped it a bit that it wasn't impactful anymore. I still liked the anime tho.
The comments are interesting thinking everyone hates this scene because everyone loved this generic copy n paste character. A comment pretty much explained how a lot of us felt me included and it only had like 41 likes. All the other high liked comments is just "this guy is generic and so many people loved him!'
What the, no after EP 12 she continues to salt continent to retrieve sword salt (only counter to pure concept). This timeline is different cuz pandemonium escape and change route, but it pretty much ends same way, only difference is they actually reached salt sword but Haqua (ivory hero) is there but she got hit with salt sword. Menou entire resolve to yeet akari didn't change even when Flare told her this timeline has happened many times, or how menou is created from Haqua.
So many isekai shows are basically clones of each other (yet I still watch them ...), but this show... was a lowkey standout! I loved the character development/tension from all their secrets, the interesting settings and abilities, the animation... and the constant mix of action, tragedy and hope... With great power comes great... irresponsibility. Is death inevitable? Can she ReZero her way out of this insanity, or does she doom us all selfishly (or is it selflessly?) But alas... seems bleak a season 2 will ever show. PSA - I skipped the first episode when I rewatched it. Maybe more people would have gotten into it, if not for that bold first episode. (I think it's clever and definitely shocked me in a way most anime won't risk. But it also seemed to alienate many... I'm sure many were like, well that's a waste. But Ep 2 is where it really begins...)
I believe it would´ve been more welcome to the audience if menou gave a test to isekai Wannabee MC, by bringing him the king and see what he does with him, after realizing he´s just going to kill she kills him, this would be interesting in that she´s not only doing her job, but she´s going the extra step to show the king why supressing other worlders from coming is actually a good idea.
... you're actually right. His martial arts training might save him here and he'd constantly be being hunted for being an otherworlder. He'd be caught between using his abilities to survive and not using them to avoid losing his memories and going insane (yeah... in some cases the Faust are honestly doing the otherworlders a favour by killing them). It would show a flaw in the Faust mentality of "kill them before they cause an apocalypse", because they're potentially bringing an apocalypse by forcing an otherworlder to use their abilities in self-defense.
Kill him? yes Although its a dogshit anime the plot twist made it interesting(for a while) and i kinda liked it cuz there were like 1% of the total anime that have this sudden change of story but this anime wouldve been a lot better and perfomed a lot more well if the dude didnt die and was alive the yuri stuff prob wouldnt have happended but it wouldve performed a lot better just my theory
@@mintycotton1081 No it wouldn't and it would just be a typical isekai example. Even if it was yuri instead (not my preference), they needed to give better plots to connect to the characters.
@@mintycotton1081 it's not even a plot twist. The fact that you thought this was supposed to be the twist proves that the only thing that's dogshit is the bubblegum sized brain in your head.
Its literally in the title 'The Executioner and her way of life' meaning our mc is The Executioner lol..people who dropped this anime have no common sense if they thought the mc is a male lmfao
Just the ones here bestie, it’s the straight boys finding out that women can be isekai mcs as well very shocking to them ik. Let’s be honest, literally 80% of ppl who watched this vid have not even seen the anime, just found this from their fyp and decided to think Menou was the bad guy and killed the true mc. This is also a very out of context clip I would say.
But you have to understand even the story structure itself is kind of whack and has been stated by people who actually did watch and read all the material most of it is kind of b*******, like you're literally summoning people knowing even though they're generally good people that they will be evil, and if that's happening why didn't the church just erase people's memories of this entire event and erase people's memory so that they will never recreate this ritual summoning again it's kind of weird n****. You also have to remember that a lot of boys watch isekai so it's going to be catered to the dudes I don't know what you're trying to come here for but the two of you in this comment section are wilding
You saying straight males literally means you watch the show for yuri, the people who dislike it would rather just watch an actual good dark isekai with amazing characters and world building like re:zero dont pull the cis gender male card for this mid shit anime
Tbh if ppl are wondering why so many people dropped this, lemme simply explain: Villains are somehow acceptable, pdf files are somehow accpetable, psychopaths are also somehow acceptable to some extent. But what 90% of ppl cant tolerate are hypocrites thats exactly the reason me and my boyz dropped this shit. However i did give it a 2nd chance later, and honestly its not that bad. But the mc just leaves a bad taste every time she does her job, which is morally upsetting. Overall the story is pretty nice and the Ending(novel ending) is not bad, but it jsut leaves a question as to just "WHy even go through all of that for such bullshit?"(those who read till i ending probably understood what im talking about)
Definitely no, lol. People can love hypocrites. Light Yagami is an hypocrite, a psychopath and a villain, yet he is a great character. Same goes for Eren, Kiritsugu, Ainz, etc... People could have dropped this because of production issues, bad adaptation or bad source material idk. But clearly given the hate it has received, it irked some people greatly that the girl was the one betraying the guy. Since it was the same with Talentless Nana, one can only wonder. Is it the hypocrysy, the betrayal, the edginess... or just the gender ? Because I highly doubt people would have cared that much the other way around.
@@wandy8842 for me (personally), it's because of Yuri. I'll always avoid Yuri and Yaoi stuff. There are many people like me out there, maybe that's why no Yuri or Yaoi will ever get top 10 rank anime of all time.
@@PolterGlast Yeah it's fair. I should precise my point because I was only talking about dropping at this moment and there is no yuri before this scene. I do think that this would be possible for a yuri show to appear in top 10 though. Bloom Into you is in the top 50 most rated manga on Anilist so if it had a complete adaptation, it would definitely have gotten in the top 10 places after airing (before probably slowly falling out of the top 10 as most shows do).
Yeaa I kinda dropped it right after cuz it got a bit boring. Not cuz the dude died tho, i just felt the plot couldn't catch up. Might be wrong, Maybe I'll try watching again
should have been the real protag👎", "Yuri trash 🙄" Eren coming genocide: "Let's gooo king!!🎉", "He's so cool!❤", "I wish i was like him 🥳"They deserve to die for what they did to him 🤩" I can understand people who simply don't like to see innocent people die, but this is how this world works. It's a sad thing for sure, but it's also a necessary measure... I mean, it wold not be necessary if the ones in power would simply stop summoning innocent people boys and girls to die, but yeah. Given enough time in this world, they would inevitably become walking nuclear bombs
yeah no, if that was the case, just stop fucking summoning them? oh right the people in power are actual demons who are already fucking over the world, honestly the isekai protags would be doing the world a justice
@@DrPepperFanlike how there's idiots in power in their world too is not different than us the problem is the otherworlders are literally a walking world enders there's four errors in that world and a whole continent got turned into salt cuz of one other worlder going berserk
Many people wanted this to be the generic and usual isekai story when the mc get OP and gathering his own harem of the otherworldly women. The thing is this is YURI isekai anime, so the first thing the author did was to kill any of the lost one (at least the male one that are the manifestation of generic self insert main character the otakus and weebs wanted to be as shown in the first episode), which triggered a LOT of them. And i am all for it to see most of them self insert otakus rage quit. Ah...so glorious, lmao.
I don't know what they're expecting, like of course the YURI anime is not gonna care about it's male characters. This isn't the best story ever it's weak in it's presentation but the only thing they're mad about is that their self-insert got killed off lol they're trying so hard to make this guy relevant
U r mad that not many people that didn't like this anime everyone have different taste🤣🤣 borring mc? It's far better then a same old traumatic typical boring unlikeable female
Okay this is the most pettiest s*** I've ever seen, like what what you call generic isekai main characters is accessible to both male and female just so you wait eventually this story is going to go stale, and you also forget the fact that humans are genuinely born compared to these anime and fictionalized characters that we watch. People are mad because the mega got smoked for being innocent so mind you for people thought, like you didn't even do anything yet though and he got killed for no reason, this s*** itself is pretty much also a self-insert I don't want the bad concepts of the fact that people even though genuinely good will go evil eventually this is just stale as f*** come on and you coming around trying to bad mouth people just because they wanted something similar or different than what was here it's just low and it says a lot about you as a person.
@@SycoticForeverNeverAF I know that, it's just that so much of anime is copy pasting wish-fulfillment of the most milquetoast otaku to the point where I want to scream/quote Miyazaki when he said, "Anime was a mistake." I've been around, son. I watched anime when the only way we could get it was from copies of copies of copied VHSs. I haven't watched anime since the late 2000s, ever since the moe craze reared its ugly head. The only reason I discovered this was from an acquaintance on another site that noted about the lesbians in it, but I've been queerbaited too much to give allegedly queer anime my time since it's either homophobic or immature to the point where I just stopped. So, yeah. Sorry for the rant.
I see, you’re referring to a different part of the quote. Here is the full version of Madara Uchiha's line including that segment: **"Wake up to reality. Nothing ever goes as planned in this accursed world. The longer you live, the more you realize that reality is just made of pain, suffering, and emptiness. In this world, wherever there is light, there are also shadows. As long as the concept of winners exists, there must also be losers. The selfish desire of wanting to maintain peace causes wars, and hatred is born to protect love. There are nexuses, causalities, and destinies. So, wake up to reality and understand that there is no such thing as a happy ending. And for those who don’t understand, I will destroy this world and create a new one with my own hands."**
Remember: canonically there are four disasters in this world and they’re caused by the otherworlders going out of control and they end up having their powers to berserk. If I remember one of it caused a whole continent to have a majority of it become salt. So yeah that’s 4 whole continents fucked up by just *4 people*
Yeah, salt continent was about size of Russia or something, being dissolve every day. Rip the marine life there. Owh and since their power is realty bending, even after thousand of years, the continent is still the same size (it regenerate the size after dissolving). Pandemonium is fog barrier across the sea, again rip the marine life there. Where it imprisoned a girl who conjures up eldritch monster and doing game of thrones inside the fog barrier.... mechanical society and Starbucks is harmless...if you don't go there
Nah yogiri would find a way to leave this planet alone, not after learning how predecessor of lost one screw half this planet, and the power system of lost one consume personality and memories, not really an equivalent exchange 💱. He knew staying there would put the inhabitants in danger if he uses his power
He is not the same as Yogiri Takatou, because Yogiri Takatou has one parent and his girlfriend, unlike him. I feel like he is a different person. Yogiri would never enter that verse if it's Yogiri she would be dead quick by his single thought
I held off on this one for a while , then I found out it was Yuri and the MC was a girl, Just finished, it was really interesting, I’m glad that first dude wasn’t a main characters I’m tired of male MC, like really tired of them….
That’s just being toxic bruh. I like male MCs like Ainz and Rudeus but for you to be generalising everyone like that it’s not the way. It’s just you being a misandrist and the Twitter hole is where you belong.
i feel like all of the criticism of this show gets clumped under oh ur a loser who liked the self insert character, but theres a lot of stuff other than that, personally i dont care about the dude but isnt it jarring to have a protagonist with no issues killing someone who hasnt done anything yet, and before you say oh but he said hes gonna fuck up everyone he hates, true he did say that but in the very next ep she murders a fuckin healer who had no such intentions(sure she revives later but thats irrelevant)by that you can kinda tell she woulda killed the dude regardless of his motivations. the whole edgy idea of saying oh ur just an innocent and im the villian, like yea bitch you are and it doesnt absolve you of any of the blame. Whats honestly kinda creepy is how casual it is, like yea she expresses regret for having to kill him but acts all cutesy tootsie with her murder buddy right after this, wtf thats so jarring to have a character thats murdered countless innocent people with no intentions of hearing them out. i dont think this character deserves a redemption arc or a happy ending
The claims of people wanting the self insert only apply to people trying to morally critique this action. “Oh he didn’t do anything yet.” Bruh, this doesn’t matter. He has the power to nuke the continent and ruin hundreds of thousands of lives. It might not feel great to kill him, but it is absolutely the correct choice. This is also why she tried to kill the “healer.” His motivations straight up do not matter to her. Nor should they. Second, you trying to frame the second person as a “healer.” Is just weird. She had a true concept of time, and like all true concepts, it could eventually grow out of control. It doesn’t matter what it does now. It almost feels like you didn’t pay attention to anything on screen. Her calling the kid “innocent” his her feeling guilty about something that HAS to happen, it’s the same reason she does it casually, it is literally to save the ENTIRE WORLD. Again, it feels like you just didn’t watch. You also say she “acts cutesy” and has “no intention to hear people out.” Yeah, I’m order to do her job of getting close to people, she pretends to be friendly, wtf do you want her to do lol? Be honest to the living nukes? Also, “hear them out” what is there to hear out? It doesn’t matter what they say, they could still nuke the country. What would you have her do? “Are you going to feel very sorry when you kill thousands?”
Can’t believe so many male anime fans got so offended at an interesting concept for an isekai that they dropped such a cool plot because uh muh power fantasy
I'd drop it too, not because the guy died, but because of the cringy dialogues she delivered to the deadbody. "You don't deserve death,I am the villain". My deadbody would commit suicide hearing those.
Honestly, I’m tired of seeing animes with basic male characters that have nothing interesting about them, gaining large amounts of power for reasons. It’s bland, over used, and they get more praise for being basic. I think the real MC killings him off is a step in a better direction. She’s complex and it shows a push back on colonization in fantasy worlds. It’s fresh and I get the feeling this show will only get more intriguing
@@Oliver-fv5un ehh, I just like seeing what overpowered power they give the mc and how they use it, I like op things it's why one punch man was so clean in my opinion, when she kills him it's kinda like wow your actually messed up
@@xMelat0n1nx Understandable. I honestly like OPM too especially with Saitama's struggle of seeing value on being the strongest, while everyone is blinded by their superiority complexes. Rimuru on one hand makes impossible ideal possible through power. Regardless, shows with 'not so OP protagonists' doesn't really fall behind since it shows conflict, struggles, character depth, and "weight of action(like the do-or-die feeling)" better. It highlights hardwork and intellect. It's why Genos fights and Garou's struggles are satisfying to watch/read.
@@slashhack1463 oh yeah don't get me wrong good ol normal mcs that are we are cool too I enjoyed rezero a lot, I think the main thing upsetting people is it is introduce as a opm at first, people feel for the guy start to like him then kill him off as the bait shit
“Well Ackually” Naw, rising of shield hero was a turn off for me because of that exact reason. I’m not alone, but people like me don’t comment about it so you only see those who like it. Clouds judgement.
Uhh why is this anime getting thi much hate tho. I mean its alr if you don't like the way they did it but, i might be wrong. I feel like ppl wouldn't have said anything if the MC was a guy. It was the same for Talentless Nana. They called her a bitch. Ppl don't give hate to Light or eren killing innocent ppl? That's just how I feel. no offence
@@nv_51 I clearly mentioned it's alr it they don't like it for the story. Most of the haters call her a bitch. Why? Cuz they don't like this genre? Lmao that's stupid And I have no reason to be mad if they don't like this show. This was just a good 1 time watch for me. I just don't understand the reason. And just how and when did I sound mad😑
Imagine, if you didn't kill him what will he do to the world you live in? He have a power to nullify, and you already see him becoming something you'll afraid of in split second. Man I'll really kill him before he kill me. If you hate this because the main character is a girl, then why are you watching Talentless Nana who did the same in the first episode. XD
What kind of logic is that so in your opinion you should kill the person if you are only 2 person in the alley because you dont know if he have gun or not so before he has the advantage you should kill the guy that no fucking idea whats going on and just trying to go home
Satisfied! This is new!!! Unlike isekai+harem+ecchi genre anime, if these three genres come together, the result will be a trash anime. It's like watching the same story, only with different characters and titles. What's more, there are so many girls, automatically there will be a lot of useless fan service. There are too many trash anime.
This anime wouldve been a lot better if she either let him go or didnt kill him but hid him this guy wouldve made a nice calm and understanding mc its sad that she killed him on the first episode
@@mintycotton1081 he literally said he's going to destroy anyone that stands in his way seconds after discovering his power. This video cut that part out for some reason.
This anime is a colossal failure simply for this scene. They structured the first episode like an isekai, got you to care about the guy then killed him right when things got interesting. THEN expect you to care about the girl after just because. Absolute dogshit
I know that Menou just did it for the sake of the world but she didnt have to make him trust her so much, she could've just killed him on the spot if when she knew he's a lost one
The reality of those series with ISekai MC getting the demon, assassin, thief, bandit, or monster girl, first is that well, you risk death if her first impression of you is bad.
i feel as though a lot of people just dont actually read the subtitles for this as much of the complaints are explained within the show itself. 1. (The whole innocent and he may not go evil view) it is stated, not suggested that no matter what kind of person you are the more you use the pure concept the more it takes over you e.g "Null" guy would eventually want to return everything in the world to "Null"/nothing. its not a question of if its a question of when. and no pure concept user has gone against the rule yet not even in the novels, only thing that we dont know is how long it takes or if there are people who take longer then others to become their concept. as far as we know even Akari "Time" Will lose herself at some point though it is a bit more complicated when it comes to her but thats spoilers which im not going to delve into that deeply. 2. (the why dont they stop summoning if they know they will go mad argument) - its literally against the law and often if the summoners identities are found they do get punished, and just like real life its not a simple task to fully remove the knowledge on how to summon them (especially since there was a time when they were welcome to this world) and people do it for the same reasons people murder others in real life knowing full well they will go to jail etc some people just dont care or dont think of the long term consequences, or just straight up think they can control the power for their own purposes and dispose of it when not needed. 3. (Dislike that the Mc is the villain i guess idk if its the half way through the first ep twist or what?) now if u dislike menou cus shes bland or you simply dont like the character thats fair enough but the dislike of the entire show because they are not as morally "good" as they are first presented is odd and a lot of people are saying that shes a hypocrite for saying she is a "Just" and "Strong" priest and acting good seem to have the notion that she actually sees herself as the good guy in all this, when she doesnt. like right after killing the guy she says she knows that hes innocent and that she by the common view is a "villain". Yes she does somewhat justify herself by saying that at the end of the day it is the right thing to do as the otherworlders or essentially the bigger villains at the end of the day, but i think people fail to realise that she is just saying morally she is wrong and a bad person but is doing the correct thing as they have no other method of protection from another major catastrophe due to an otherworlders power. it should be evident aswell that she doesnt want to have to kill them, its the entire reason she has to justify herself but she does believe she has to be the one to do the job. (only full on spoiler here) it is later shown that the church trains orphans in order to become executioners and she decided that in simple terms she would be the one to kill as many otherworlders as possible in order so that the other children wouldn't have to be trained because as much as the character pretends to be emotionless she does have care about others. plus another reason is that she is massively influenced by flares view and approach hence the nickname "flairette" and thats because she had her entire identity kind of wiped thanks to an otherworlders power which doesnt help. which also means before akari she killed her targets pretty quickly before they had time to influence her, and its the main reason why momo is hesitant for akari to be around menou for long as she knows menou under the facade is kind but anyway if u dont like the show you dont like the show i just found that some of the reasons people give are ones that are explained, and if you dont like the explanation provided then ye like u could argue that the fact otherworlders will go evil takes away some of the morality in the choice to kill them or not but imo what i think the opening was meant to show that even if they will be evil when they first arrive they are innocent and its not their fault. which is atleast explored in that menou basically doesnt want to do it and she knows it is murder not justified killins but at the end of the day from her knowledge it has to be done by someone and to her if someone has to do this horrible task she should so that others dont have to. so i do think its not just black and white but ye. not like anyone going this paragraph anyway but oh well \_0_/
I bet you they wouldn't hate menou if she was a guy. If the genders were reversed they would be jerking off about how it's gender equality. They can't accept that not every isekai is a power fantasy
Loving this show but I've seen more people getting triggered by haters than I've seen haters getting triggered by the show. People asking #2 definitely aren't paying attention but people are allowed to be #1 and #3. I think it makes sense for many people to not like it. You spend the first episode feeling sorry for this guy, only to have him get murdered from behind simply because he said something sus. (I know it implied he was getting corrupted but by face value I mean.) She's shown to be a controversial character in the very first episode with no build up to warm yourself up to her, so it's not a surprise that the comments are a civil war on this clip. Even I found myself a little annoyed with her monologue right after the kill (like you said, describing herself as "pure" and "just" probably didn't do her any favours with newcomers to the series and shows her kinda distancing herself from being at fault,) and regardless of her trauma, her not giving him a real chance and killing him as soon as he says the wrong thing definitely broke my heart for him. All that said, I think the plot is interesting and I'm interested to see how Menou changes as a character. Doesn't mean I think she's justified in what she's doing or even a good person, but it also doesn't mean I believe people who drop it are wrong or don't understand the characters. Even the best written shit bags won't get a pass from everyone. TLDR- Let's get along and enjoy what we love.
Well it was a little bit unfair.. Imagine playing games in ur room.. And someone summoned u and they throw u out from castle. And thn a cute gurl betray u and killed u.. Too much sadness... I wish someone like subaru (reverse time by dieng) destroy this verse
I love how you immediately start off with a Self-Insert "Imagine play game suddenly get summoned and killed" And the fact this comment got 50 likes, prove how much people love to self insert themselves to generic bland OP protagonist. And unfair.. sure. But it has to be done. Or risk Human Error that will kill big part of the world.
@@kiattim2100 i like how nobody blames the Nobles or "the world" for summoning people from Japan. They just put all blames on Faust who's trying to prevent another continent yeeted from existance
For me to be upset with this scene had nothing to do with me being a weeb. Which I’m not, I just didn’t f*** with the lack of empathy or mortality that was shown here for this. Just a bad start to a story. If you’re trying to market something definitely definitely don’t start with this. Especially when the main audience is weebs
Dude was literally designed to be a generic male mc blank slate. There are hundreds like him in anime. The people choosing to be seriously angry over him worry me. It just reeks of incel outrage
Gets teleported against their will, dumped outside, no home, no money, no way to make money since you don't know the language, and killed for something you "might" do.
I saw the series until the end, but I can see why so many people dropped it after that scene.
I went Nani the heck when this scene happened. Ended up watching till end... It might not get a S2 unless there's one lurking around.
Yep. I know for me personally, I like seeing the underdog win. Not get further dumped on for the evil couple to go on having a happy ending.
I was actually cheering for pandemonium. That world and those people are pure evil.
Yeah the priestess admits she’s the bad guy but I’m like, “well stop resisting and let your scum bag world come to an end or at least stop the people who keeps isekai-ing innocent children.
I would like a season 2 because I want pandemonium to go full Overlord on their evil world.
That’s why I watch anime. I like to see some retribution.
Yea this scene got under my skin for the exact reasons you mentioned. And then she goes on saying I’m pure and just. I stayed around for another episode and the show had the nerve to be cutesy and buddy buddy. Nah, fuck that. Plus there was no consequences for her actions, no remorse. Dude was forgotten. He didn’t deserve any of that. She deserves to be punished. I can’t side with a character like that, plus she’s not charismatic or cool. The only good thing that came out of me watching this show was that it inspired my own story
@thorcolossus if you gave it a longer chance you'd find out what happens if the lost ones are given a chance to develop their powers (nothing good) and that she knows everything she's saying is bullshit but she has to do it anyway because the lost ones can wipe out civilization if unchecked
It was actually dropped because so many male anime fans couldn’t handle their dreams of a waifu who follows you while you become overpowered fantasy being crushed. I mean, mans was already planning on going APE, the other lost ones we’ve seen are far more sorrowful.
He didn't even fuck around he just found out
Homie pulled up to the wrong hood. Sad story.
@MrDibara homie got caught lacking. Happens too often
@@cocytus6451That's actually pretty real, just like konosuba after meeting aqua and aqua just backstabing him, but he did better
That's why I dropped this anime...guys watch vox machina👌
i tried watching episode one but i dont get whats it all about its so gore(not that i care)but dont understand the plot...@@kimoanime560
Ironically, this guy's power is probably the only thing that can handle the other lost one. Eliminate everything in one swoop.
Nah the girl just can undo it by reversing time, the vanished become unvanished
Sadly that's not how her power works. If it were that simple there wouldn't be a series of books lol
@@Shtoops 7 volume i belive
3 being currently translated
Idk it seems incredibly dangerous. A major red flag was his lack of, “oh shit this could be dangerous.”
Instead he is eager to learn how to become stronger. I’ve only seen this clip, but people capable of great destruction, without a beneficial goal are scary as hell.
I’ve seen way too many gamers wield power as a toy. I myself have done the same, torture npcs over trivial dialogue, eventually desensitizing into a psychotic sociopath. You can say it’s just a game, but it implies the possibility of what you would do given power.
@@stormaurora3027 meh, ep 5 in next few days will tell how much powerful Akari is
...unless JC Staff drags it again
Girl was taken in from a young age and taught to kill kids with superpowers for the good of the world by the people who took her in after all her connections died.
Meanwhile, there's a clear political struggle between the church that took her in and the kingdom, enough so that the Kingdom summons Lost Ones despite the danger they pose.
As an avid reader of the Talentless Nana manga, I have some ideas on where this is going.
Totally gives talentless nana vibes
Like for Nana chan
A bad plot I guess? 😅
Just mentioning talentless Nana is all you had to say for me to understand this entire anime from one clip lol
Reminds me of the Jumpers movie. Actually, it's exactly like that movie
Not gonna lie, 1m people dropped this anime after realizing he's not the mc😂
I could see how he could become a problem but he didn’t seem like that guy of his life wasting to bad in the other world
same i dropped it i felt bad and i dont watch female mc like this ...
Yeah but also imo a plot line that consists of some girl executing kids who have literally done shit all in the new world they were forced into it’s very boring and sad, plus it’d get monotonous very quickly which is prob why they used the rip off Subaru ability where the girl rewinds time every time she dies if I’m not mistaken? (I only saw clips since I dropped right after seeing the boy get executed)
@@yosukekimeno5379lmao i dont watch anime with male mc lead anymore, concept too same and repeated
@@Knbgsyeah everyone has their taste I also don’t watch any anime with female mc
It annoys me that he died. I get that it would be a run-of-the-mill isekai if he lied, but still. The guy gets abducted from his home to a strange place, now he's homeless with no money and can't even speak the language. Then he finds out he gets the kind of power that every boy has dreamed of in the younger days but before he can get a good taste of it, he's murdered in cold blood for being a potential threat. It just feels wrong on so many levels.
Aye, that's kinda the point, that the selection process is completely arbitrary and in many ways, absolutely ruthless and fucked. And if she didn't kill him now he would have gotten fucked anyway later cause his powers corrode his personality.
Fate had had a mean grudge against that poor sap.
If this is the adaptation of the manga I think it is. He's totally not dead.
Maybe she should have attempted to kill him and then we could have the story from two perspectives with him being bitter and angry and all and her following the original storyline after she assumed he died (I dropped after this scene btw)
it's supposed to feel wrong.
Not a ‘potential’ threat. Their powers make them ticking time bombs. That’s why she needed to see if really didn’t have a power, cause she wouldn’t have killed him in that case.
Correction, everything was going great until he spoke his mind...
Would have killed him either way
Nah he was dead the second Menou set his eyes on him.
Everyone who is isekaid in this universe is a ticking bomb. That's why the fact that he was summoned was reason enough for her to die. Whether they want it or not, they will be strong enough to destroy an entire continent. In short, people in that universe tried to get along with isekaid peoples before, but the result was always disaster.
@@vonivon_that doesnt help anything. Their powers are unpredictable. You’re eventually going to make villains and audience will hate you, vehemently. They’ll be cheering for the villain. Ex, If I got summoned to that world and she’d did that shit to me, given the fact that I try to live my life trying to be a good decent human, plus some people call me too nice sometimes too. Then I don’t know that world’s language, I don’t know the rules of the world and the only trustworthy person I met, tried to stab me in the brain, I’m turning into a villain. It’s not like I can get a job, become a naturalized citizen. It’s not like they’re going to leave me alone either. I didn’t ask for any of this. If I survived that bullshit she did, I’d probably set that whole world on fire, just out of spite.
Still shitty anime
The guy was a literal walking black hole waiting to happen
And he was going to Anthony Freemont the whole world.
Fr, It's like would you kill Hitler in art school type shit
He asked her to teach him tho and she just killed him
Yes if she teach him and he becomes stronger and more have more control over his power is the moment he turn dark lol, power blinded people, heck even power in politiccal way are the same
If they’re unlucky he might even become the 5th person in the list of “other worlds that fucked up our shit so badly no one can use them anymore”
The lost ones has brought far too much harm to our world....everybody probably sleeping when Menou said this line
que to 4 Major human error
this event happen without Faust/Church involvement...Lost One want to go home and their power goes berserk
one continent legit turned into salt
@@tenshionslifer3031 not to mentioned the one which carved a hole in a continent
@@capbuster1424 i don't get the Nobles...if they want to topple Faust, just summon more Lost One with knowlegde and take over with civil advancement. Them summoning Pure Concept which can backfire (due to unstable emotion or the concept devouring their souls) make it looks like they're gonna start a war or something
@@tenshionslifer3031 I think every of the lost ones summoned have the power of pure concept...as Menou said in the 1st ep...
And i'm not sure how powerful the Faust is...so I can't really comment on alternative methods....
@@tenshionslifer3031 I think they want to start a war. It's like how all the powerful countries here stockpile nukes: nothing good can come from nuclear winter. But if one side has bigger guns than the other, then they win. My theory is that lost ones are this world's version of nukes
you just cut off when he said;
Anything in my way, anyone I hate,
I can just get rid of them!
True, he's already becoming greedy.
People need to remember he said that even if Menou could be brainwashed or traumatized or mislead
@@wtblnk he probably got bullied in school a lot
@@RLFilms75 nope
@@imwhippedcreamforjiyoo6459 then why would he say it? Explain kid
I was shocked but at the same time I love this scene so much. This is literally the anime telling ppl it isnt a run-of-the-mill isekai. Ofc, for me, I read the synopsis first, so that was why I picked it up in the first place.
:/ personally tho
Dropped this. RIP chad.
shows you're a true Twatter Ghoul
@@SWreacts chad? That boy is the most generic self insert of typical OP video game isekai
@@kiattim2100 but aren't we all generic
@@faith4657 No, I am a POS but I am not generic. I am unlike most people and I guess that's why I don't often fit in but I like to have enough respect for others to feel that enough people out there are not carbon copy paste characters once you get to know them.
The whole time in that anime, i just waited to him return as the main villain an destroying everything in this world 💥
lol, same :(.
Ironically, the comment literally sums up why they kill otherworlders. Because people like you have a power fantasy and would definitely use it for bad, like the black haired generic guy.
@@labbit35author of shokei shojou just make the boys anime version and turns average anime mc into Homelander, with same mindset too (I'll off anyone who disagree with me), and anime fans are shocked
For me this anime need to show both side to be really interesting .Her who want to kill the Lost One and The POV of the lost one going crazy or just trying to go back to their world. Like that I think we can have a better understanding of this Cold murder.
Or you could just watch menou grow a massive log of shit after eating taco bell and watch it turn into diarrhea.
This is literally in the story
@@KlldbyCuriosity I dont watch or read the manga yet. THX for the info.
@@Shiraion It’s literally in the anime
@@Shiraion It's literally in the 1st episode. Whether or not you agree with their motivations it's pretty clear the basic outline of what they're doing and why.
I remember being turned away from the show by this scene, not because 'muh self-insert' died, but because I had been reading some particularly good fanfiction that had a lot of the problems in-story be caused by a lack of empathy and some people making 'hard choices' that didn't really need to be made. Things got better when empathy and just genuine good human-nature started to affect the world (skipping a shitton of stuff) and it was a good fanfic, but, as a result, I was in a particularly empathetic mindset at the time and when the guy just got ganked, I was really annoyed at Menou.
I put myself in that guy's shoes. I get ripped from home to some isekai adventure against my will and when I discover my 'uber OP power' that could possibly get me home if I use it creatively (because I can certainly imagine some way to get home with that ability), I get instantly killed by some moralizer who gives some bullshit lines about how 'she's the bad guy' and how I 'didn't do anything to deserve this' as if it made up for the fact she killed me. I didn't (and still don't) care about the fake-MC as a character, but the moralizing after murdering an innocent was what instantly made it go from 'this has irritated me' to 'this has made me genuinely kinda angry at a show and I don't like feeling this way', so I left.
I like Yuri a lot and genuinely enjoy reading/watching Yuri stuff, it's always a good time, but I really hate the sanctimonious bullshit she said and that plus my mindset at the time made me stop watching. I had completely forgotten about it until this popped up in my feed.
You see, that's the problem. You refused to watch the rest and never got to the part where they literally explain how otherworlder's souls errode the more they use their powers, slowly erasing their memories until they go insane.
This has happened 4 times already and each time a calamity almost destroyed the entire world. You're sad over one innocent kid, when that same kid was a walking talking ticking black hole waiting to blow a crater into the planet.
Menou literally watched her entire town be turned into salt by a panicked other worlder. They are dangerous before and after death. She calls herself the bad guy because she is, she was trained to kill, to not think of herself as righteous, that she was the villain. Maybe watch the anime before making judgements.
Bro got ended like it was Dark souls
I dont get it. All of this people talking about how they dropped this anime after this scene but this right here is what made me super invested in it. This and Mili doing the opening, of course. I am obviously not saying she was doing a good thing, but that is what makes it interesting.
People are just butthurt their self insert power fantasy died
Same, It made it very obvious that it wasn't the same old recycled isekai bs and that's why I got into it
It was pointless
@@simoncraddock1680 honestly im just waitibg for the "real" main character to be revived. Then when i realized that menou was the real mc i dropped it. Just ur typical assasain that is ofc from the CHURCH. Nah
@@simoncraddock1680
No they just don’t like woke anime.
The fact that so many dudes got so attached to the most boring guy in the world over the course of the 10 minutes he was alive should be mind boggling, but I've been in the anime community long enough that this reaction was completely expected.
You'd think these people would be happy that the show did something new for a change. They're hypocrites because they think this scene is wrong but praises lord ainz who killed innocent people over the course of his story with impunity
I think Mother's Basement put it best, but I will change what he said a bit. If you order a Big Mac for a quick lunch and then get served some fancy sounding French dish as they throw the Mac you wanted down the trash, it's not gonna make you happy.
Some people just want their basic power fantasy Isekai. And they will not react positively if the show they think is that switches gears to be about someone who murders those protagonists.
It's the kind of reception one should honestly expect when you do a bait and switch like this. The show is literally disguised to appeal to the people least likely to like it.
For anyone saying they got attached to the guy and dropped it cause his death it’s not that it’s how she can act so kind and loving like she’s your friend and makes you feel safe then immediately kills someone because they have the potential to have the strength to be a threat with no remorse what so ever and that’s slimy as hell, me personally if something in a anime happens that would affect me or upset me irl I don’t like it like rape scenes, betrayal ect just makes my blood boil and I’d assume everyone else that dropped the show feels the same. Most definitely not cause they got attached to the guy that gets killed it’s how the mc does it, she should have just killed him off rip like a cold blood killer would have made it way better instead of building a small bond first
@@bryanlouville30 I'd be willing to agree if the guy was the main character. Considering he wants to kill people after discovering his powers earned him a death sentence. Menou's world had experienced 4 disasters because of outworlders like him. Fuck that guy. I'm glad he's dead and not the main character.
@@bryanlouville30 Well obviously the anime is dark and most of the time isn't for the weak hearted, also her being friendly is a way to bring down the guy's guard because no matter who it is you can't be too sure what a person is capable of (you see this all the time in movies and shows relating assassins/mafia/etc). And what do you expect her whole personality and memories got erased and was then raised as a killer with no regard for emotions
I still get confused when people are outraged that this dude died. He was never meant to be an important character, he was quite literally written as the most generic isekai "mc" in existence so people wouldn't care as much when Menou iced him. The fact that anyone latched onto this dude in the eight minutes he was on screen speaks to a supreme lack of taste. It's like self projecting onto a cardboard cutout.
He got murdered blah blah blah. The entire point of Menou's character is meant to be that she's morally grey, doing bad things for an ostensible "greater good". The stuff with Akari is meant to be her wavering in that aspect once she isn't able to instantly finish the job and has to interact with her.
This scene was supposed to signal to you that you're watching an isekai with an actual unique premise and an interesting morally dubious protagonist. Anime fans seem okay with that kind of thing when it's a dude doing it.
@@clairehickey9368 The "greater good" is used as an excuse to commit heinous acts. That's evil. One can only hope she gets atomized for good in the future.
The fact that people latched onto this character in just a couple of minutes means he was that interesting. If the other characters were more interesting there would be no one complaining. This is the same premise as Talentless Nana and no one was complaining about Nana killing off innocent people. As for self insert that people keep bringing up is actually funny because most people don't like self insert characters or else shows like "Smartphone isekai" would be called the best Isekai.
@@asandax6 Get a teraphy. I think what I said explains everything for what you wrote ^^ Keep having fun with copy characters and copy works until you get bored. After some point, it will surely dawn on you how valuable this kind of work is.
@@asandax6He isn't even interesting. Funnily enough people hate on talentless nana for the same reason
From what I understand, there are 3 sides in this community:
Actual no-lifers who got mad that their power fantasy kid was destroyed
Other no-lifers making fun of them instead of explaining what makes the scene good
The smarter ones who actually went out of their way to explain why they like/dropped this show. (Like because it subverted expectations in a sensical manner because the otherworlders become killers as their powers corrupt them so it makes sense on why the kid had to die, disliked and dropped because the show didn't show this fact well at first and baited them that this would be a more standard isekai before just killing the kid outta nowhere aka the show suddenly feeling like it switched plots without explaining it much in-universe and having to rely on promotional material to do so)
Most of them use rage bait like smug edgy teens with deep "main character" syndrome. Trying to discuss philosophy with them is just as fun as shoving your head in a wasp nest.
Looking back I can see why some people didn't like this too well. It's just an odd feeling knowing that the protagonist of the series is a murderer who can and will continue to kill innocents.
I'm not sure about what the novel has left off, but it's reasonable to not want to continue while being aware that the protagonist's entire purpose is to be a murderer of innocents, even with the whole 'theyre dangerous' plot point.
She knows she's a murderer but someone has to do it. If she let them go then another human error could occur and kill millions of lives. I wonder how different the reactions would be if the MC was a guy. Because Tanya and Redo MC and Ainz hands arv exactly clean either
@@anirudhsukigakirei9397
I find the "what if the mc was male" arguments to be so silly when you compare the first impressions and impacts of both sides.
Unfortunately those 2 comparisons don't work how you'd like them to.
Menou is evil, she admits she's evil herself, certainly. But there is a fine difference between her and the other two.
Redo of Healer is a revenge story, Menou is not out for revenge. Menou is murdering individuals before they can use their abilities to cause harm. Incidentally, when she made Mitsuki use his ability, she basically corrupted him too. The more they use their abilities, the more corrupted they become.
Tanya was established as a horrible person within the first few minutes. Though, it's still enjoyable since you knew what you were getting into the moment you turned the show on.
The Executioner and Her Way of Life purposely did a fakeout (though people criticize others for even thinking that Mitsuki is the protagonist), showed the misfortunes of the character, and then struck him with an even worse misfortune by being killed by the person that he trusted the most at the time.
Tanya was an enjoyable evil. Keyaru is out for revenge, and for most, it's satisfying, especially when you see what they've put him through in the past.
Menou has been through bad things, but witnessing and feeling the impact of those bad things is enough to turn people away, which it did. When even the author of the novel said that he felt extremely guilty for what he did while writing that character and the scene, it's expected that many people turn away from it.
Spoilers: It's even worse when volumes later, Menou loses the resolve to kill Akari, who has an ability that has caused the release of one of the great human errors, resulting in even more deaths.
She expresses her guilt for killing so many innocent people, expresses how they've haunted her, and how she's wanted to take her own life as an act of redemption. Of course, she loses some of these feelings after sharing her memories/feelings with Akari.
It's just unsatisfying to think that it took the murdering of so many innocent teens, forcefully pulled into another world, for Menou to then decide that she wants to start trying to help Otherworlders.
To give her the benefit of the doubt, in Volume 5 it's revealed that Menou isn't even an actual person, but instead a body of Ivory's memories that she created to accompany Akari on her journey, so she most likely didn't even have much of a say in her future as an Executioner. This is just my theory though, until Volume 6 comes out.
With all of this in mind-you'd know none of this as someone only watching the first few episodes before dropping the story. It's fairly reasonable for someone to lose interest after witnessing the murder that happened and finding out the truth that he was an innocent pawn sent out to die.
Hell, even when Mitsuki's Null ability is used again in the future, it's openly said that it isn't even a threat singlehandedly capable of beating Menou in a fight (while being used by someone else).
Tl;dr - Tanya and Keyaru have a satisfying appeal to them that is established quickly in the first few minutes of their episode. Tanya's psychotic atheist child-dictatorship is interesting to the people who are looking for it. Rarely does she actually go out of her way to murder civilians or something of the sorts-she commits war crimes against her enemies. Keyaru is a victim of kidnapping, rape, and dozens of other heinous acts and wants to get revenge against the people who wronged him.
From the eyes of anyone watching the first episode, Menou is a deceiver who murders teenagers forced into a situation that she allowed herself to be inserted into. If we didn't get so much insight into Mitsuki's situation, there'd have probably been less people who dropped the story that quickly, honestly. If the first episode didn't have Mitsuki and only Akari, there'd have definitely been a lot of people who stayed and watched it. Like how Overlord only got into the grim murdering and betrayal in it's 2nd and 3rd Seasons.
No one is forcing you to watch it my guy
@@sutyerator ...? This is such a bot-like comment. I'm pointing out why other people likely stopped watching the show. I find some aspect of it to be interesting and enjoyable, which is why I named occurrences in the novel.
@@zephe199
Long comment.
But I read half of it. I get you. I dropped this show too at a point.
But its mostly because it was so boring around episode 6. I already expected the church is kinda evil and she would probably not kill the OTHER summon.
So I didnt expect anything new so it was boring. And + this. Out of all evil Main characters she wasn't one of those characters that I liked.
Tanya was watachable. I stopped liking momonga halfway wer he went full evil to make his NPC followes happy. But still interestimg to see what happens to his undead kingdom.
Talentless nana had the same premise as this anime. But talentless nana was more interesting.
The fact anyone got upset about this will always baffle me
Well she murdered a kid who was abandoned who could have ended up being good if he was taken in by them. Yeah, shes not a good guy
"Oh no not my self insert! How can I convince my pussy self to be awesome if that guy got killed by events that I myself would probably take cause I'm boring."
@@jesusofsuburbia3675 ??? She murdered a young man with a knife to the temple, he was like what, 14?
@@SuperiorFirepower and that same guy could wipe out a country and no one is going to blink an eye to that. Why should I with him? Like there's also people in that world too ofc, they'll be rational and eliminate threats than become a potential liability. And if you actually pay attention to the plot, there are already guys like him...
People are like "oh no poor kid 😥" when there are more messed up show out there.
@@jesusofsuburbia3675 They are killing Lost ones who could be used for good with a lost one whos job is too murder. They are not trying to protect people, they are trying to make sure they stay in power.
I was gonna point out that they cut out the part where he mentions he was planning on using his power to get rid of everyone he hated but it seems most of you don't care and that's just fine by me.
Might not get a second season but for one moment I'm happy a bunch of people saw their over powered self insert get put down like a dog. :)
I really do hope it gets a 2nd season. This anime is actually pretty good.
Not too fond of op protagonist but this anime just makes me cringe
@@narutouzumaki77777 The pure amount of goofyness nearly caused me to get a second brain aneurysm
Yeah no, she was going to kill him regardless.
You sound mad.
After watching the series, I get why she was so quick to kill him, but god that was SO COLD to watch. I just imagine how powerful his ability could have gotten.
Spoiler-ish below!
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Bro He'd be so terrifying if he used his ability and got consumed by it. Of course, there's always a chance they could have made him aware that the pure concept would take him over and remove his memories of japan slowly till his personality becomes basic likes, dislikes, and the pure concept. The ability to entirely destroy things like that is something that as a human disaster, would be nearly impossible to fend off, what could you do against a being that removes your body from existence? If he got entirely consumed by his ability, could he even be trapped?
I get a lot of people would be upset about the death, as he was made to be the kind of MC that the audience can connect to- but the shock factor is what kept me there, as I found it so cool to see an Isekai world that deals with other worlders, and have seen how these OP abilities they get could destroy their world, so they take them out- taking the role of villains who murder innocents who have not done anything yet to avoid the inevitable.
Honestly hyped to see if another season comes :D
All of you are tripping, the manga and the LN are amazing, sorry to break it to y'all but he was never meant to be the main character or anything, he was just a mean to introduce the MC. Also this is a wlw story. Always was, always will be. Get off the anime if you guys started judging it from ep 1.
You can exactly tell people to get off an anime if they choose to watch it, and even then how they executed that s*** was complete ass, even this entire s*** is rigged to fail like you some people from the other world even though genuinely nice people who actually risk their life to save others and they still turn out evil even though you have no proof that's kind of Jack though don't you think.
@@faith4657 so fron what i catched up they are like Christians killing everyone who seem to possess magic without second thought bc they might turn evil? And some dudes summon something called " lost ones " which seems to be something very powerful idk what it is so yea and to battle it you low-key need the magic?
Trash anime
@@faith4657 you seem like so triggered by generic male character death ☠️
@@wind4758 I mean anyone in my situation be triggered those who are used to characters like this. The entire point of isekai is basically someone like Us in a world like anime. And it basically just shot on the whole concept, I'm not saying that they can be different concepts but what played right here was just asinine would barely any other characters except for female characters to carry this lead.
Ironically the ones with powers are being killed by those with powers too. What a double standard
She uses Magecraft. The Otherworlders have Pure Concepts that can quite literally destroy the world.
@@armorfrogentertainment She still has power which is dangerous too everyone which is hypocritical. That guy wouldn’t have meant any harm or do any damage to anyone if she taught him. He potentially could harm people sure but so can she
Different powers. Hers are closer to ironman tech that looks like magic. Theirs are more like Thanos with the infinity gauntlet.
@@MrJuicy08 everyone has a power in their world, like 90% of population. In theory 100% can use magecraft. They just need proper training and easy creast (circuit to channel ether). It not easy like Lost One who has like unlimited ether and almost perfect control of ether
also Pure Concept errodes its user mind and then the user will become physical embodiment of the concept
@@MrJuicy08 *ep 4*
Flare to Menou: your mana capacity is below average, you mana control is even worse, a tad below average
so...still thinks she's OP, Her junior 2 years younger than her is more OP, meanwhile Otherwolder has unlimited mana and natural talent for magic
This anime separated the tourists from the real enthusiasts
You will never go far with such low expectations
The girl is the protagonist. It’s obvious though she is warped, traumatized and brain washed. Should be an interesting series despite some of the haters
That's what I'm saying she is a lost one so they use her to kill others just like her epic. Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if that church organization is definitely the evil enemy of the story.
It's the same situation with Talantless Nana. They hate her just bc she's a MH and not Nanao. I mean they don't hate Yagami who is narcissist himself with messiah complex which ideas are totally utopian. Misogyny
@@jeremygilley624 a lot of stories can make it so various sides are good and bad. It’s probably not just the church
@@dromdart3563 ya I saw a lot of hate for the show. This show probably isn’t perfect but it’s getting unwarranted hate. If she’s considered bland to some then that’s because she is still growing and maturing. We can also see how she witnessed a traumatic ice event which might be more than it seems
@@rajvirmalhans2073 she's not as bland as the guy she killed, who everybody wishes was protagonist apparently
This scene was so satisfying.
Yeah, bc killing a innocent kid is soooooooo satisfying
Fr. It was unexpected
You mind explaining why that so satisfying cuz without context you're kinda sounding a little... you know...😅
@@goddragon8637 he was being introduced as another boring self insert mc. I’m so fucking sick of that archetype in anime. Hence my delight when he got offed.
@@goddragon8637 naw, it's just as bad in context, he might a been another bland mc archetype, but he was completely innocent and the girl is part of a church cult that kills anyone that teleports to their world bc they r scared of what they could do, basically they racist to other worlders
Love the salty people complaining about people that dropped the anime after episode 1. Its their choice to do so, you seem butthurt for no reason at all. Grow up
Honestly, this scene is fantastic, some isekai fans need to have a reality check anyways. XD
this guy has better power than the main antagonist lool, such a big letdown using this kind of power early on
>the main antagonist
Eh? Which one do you speak of? There's a couple of those.
@@Shtoops my dear I think you're confusing the term "subplot villains" with the term "main antagonist" I think I don't know it's been awhile since I've last been in school so my memory is a little hazy on grammar.🤔
@@goddragon8637 If they mean the one that can make monsters out of nothing, I'm gonna be very confused
Is this like 'Talentless nana'
Talantless nana is also a bitch.
Why even be nice in the first place if you were just gonna kill him? And then she goes on to apologize like an a-hole. Even later she apparently falls in love with one of the lost ones and she honestly just makes me mad. I was also hoping the anime would be about her killing corrupt nobles and stopping te summoning and shiz and thats it.
She wondered if he really had no power and needed to confirm that. If didn’t have one, she wouldn’t have needed to kill him.
Every thing was going right until she killed him
it's getting better.
A ton of people stopped watching because of this first episode but I do hope it gets a second season
I dont. If anything this anime should've never gotten past the manga stage..
@@Mebiamiu it should never existed in first place because its shit
@@Mebiamiu cringe opinion. The biggest problem is there should've been more of it, like a 24/25-episode season, since it moved between plot beats pretty quickly and could've done with more time to breathe. I think they knew they probably wouldn't get a second season cos of dweebs getting mad, though they could've avoided all of that...
The next biggest problem is that it should've killed off the boy in that clip even quicker and/or made it more obvious he was gonna be killed. Because then people who were always gonna hate it were continuing to watch, people who would've loved it were getting bored and dropping it, and people who would've loved it but don't like being mentally prepped for one thing and receiving another were getting mentally prepped for one thing right before receiving another.
@@Mebiamiu says the guy who only saw bits of this
@@Mebiamiu your just mad its not another isekai harem bullshit anime
I feel bad he wanted to go home it’s to bad a part of me hoped he had the reversing time power to see how that would go down
Do you think his parents, friends, childhood friends and/or loved ones are still searching him? If this continues, then they'll give up and label him dead by accident or missing in action, filled with sadness and grief.
@@mystyle_jm8997 yeah they probably did label him dead but it’s sad because he had no chance no matter how much he wanted to see his family again as soon as he met that girl it was over
So, do you have any ideas who summon this boy? Its better not be like Ehit from Arifureta.
He will most likely kill the girl (because of his statement of " with this I can destroy anyone I hate " or anything along those lines, then will continue on as a generic isekai story
@@xooox_1777 why would he hate the girl maybe after he figures out she’s a assassin
I've seen alot of hate coming from this scene alone, saying "that's what he gets for being in a Yuri" and "that's tragic she betrayed him"
They obviously haven't even seen the first episode, as it's explained pretty well the problem with these Isekai'd protagonists. He was literally talking about using his power to crush the people who wrong him and reshaping the world, that only made killing him easier.
Well he was just a kid who just realised he has a super op power. I get that it's what the author decided to go for but still doesn't make it justifiable
@@undercoverA1 Do you hear yourself? You acknowledge he was about to become a tyrant and ur like "but he's a little baby boy!" He was 16+ at the very least. He knew what he was talking about when he mentioned "killing the savages and any who wrong him" and "changing the world" and you are saying "he just needs a talk, he def won't just delete me with his Void power."
The Isekai'd teens in this world either go mad with power or cause a catastrophe in their ignorance. The girl here had her village and family turned to salt by one of them as a child, that's only 1 reason why she doesn't like them.
Please watch just the 1st episode before talking out ur butt.
@@dmwanderer9454 ok ok...
I might not have been clear enough.
Lets start from the beginning. He was summoned into a new world without any consent from him. Was treated like literal shit, i'm talking about ancap levels of de-humanization, was told his power (one silver-lining in this shithole, one hope ) was literally nothing,and when he finds out that he has a super op power, literally the most important moment of his life, he experiences a powertrip. He says what's in his mind unfiltered because he trusts the girl. Why shouldn't he, she was the only person who treated him like a human in that pool of piss they call this world.Surprise! He is killed before he could even have a second thought.
If you think saying "i can finally deal with any person who causes me harm" at that point in life makes someone a Tyrant and should be killed before he could even have another thought, and sympathising with him is pointless, You might be the real fascist.
Also it's really hard to watch after first episode because after that point the protagonist becomes completely unlikable, but yet i'm currently watching 5th
@@undercoverA1 So if someone was unfiltered and became a racist, would you forgive them? Like, if someone got so angry they spouted bigoted and racist slurs, you would forget about it? 🦐 🧠
If you watched the episode, she tells him "it's not your fault you were summoned here." She did what she had to. Even if she spares him and he didn't go mad with power, he would eventually bring a catastrophe and end lives with his power. You would know this if you maybe saw 1 episode and not 1 synopsis or 1 RUclips short with sad music.
@@dmwanderer9454 read again, finished epi5 still getting vibes of wanna-be-rezero.
And no I don't think if someone, after being treated horribly by a community says some horrible shit, deserves to die before having another thought. Especially if I know they are not actually talking out of malice.
My point is only that "someone who emotionally manipulates someone to trust them and kill them in their most vulnerable state without elaborating on said character for more than a single fckin' episode can't be taken as a protagonist by ME".
ALSO it also gives me some early aot vibes like "my books are becoming boring, well i'll just kill of a few characters"
Also also, i would've forgiven it if his death had any meaning behind it. Like any other character was even affected by his death. Believe me if I say I would've liked this anime a little bit better if I started watching it from epi2.
Looking back, this isn't the most unique isekai in history cause there are glaring problems i ignored, it's just the reactions to his death was amusing
Nah, this turned what could've been a generic, by the numbers, crappy isekai into an actual interesting story about how a world so done with isekai bullshit deals with these teens messing things up cause they think they own the place.
Finally someone gets it.
As much as I would like to agree with you I cannot ignore the fact that some of these so-called teens/adults who run the world also include innocent people and just pure unlucky people.
Sorry man but I'm going to have to disagree with you there, not everyone needs to bend to your b******* or anything like this, why indulge in isekai when you know what you're going to get that doesn't make any sense to me like why you trying to change the pool, people like what they like this is isekai my n****. Even I indulging isekai once in awhile but I don't go in there and complain that the s*** is the same as every single regular thing even though parts of things are actually very different the stories align in different directions, most of the MCS aren't even overpowered or the most strongest in their verse, but I still go in there knowing that it's going to be the same as everyone but I still sit down and enjoy because most of it actually have very good detailed storys. I don't know about you though that's just all I got to say.
@@faith4657 this plot twist was actually pretty refreshing imo
@@faith4657 Please, use enter and seperate sentence from each other every few sentences.
Be me:
-Never even heard of this anime before.
-This video gets recommended out of the blue.
-Decides to watch and see what it's about.
-See the protagonist kill a freaking CHILD because (according to the comments) he can POSSIBLY become dangerous.
-Think "Ok, another generic psychopath protagonist that thinks he/she is always right".
-Now i'm never watching this anime that can POSSIBLY be good. If the protagonist can judge a movie by it's unreleased sequel, so can I.
See ya.
so what , you want another generic isekai anime where a twink gets powerups and some harem ? like we don't already have enough of this lukewarm copy pasted plots
at least this one did something different 😂
- Those who use their concept get more corrupted
- There were 4 "human errors" that were continental disasters
- MC knows they're the villain and is willing to become one to prevent anymore disasters
Judge knowing that your judgement may not be fully correct
@@sampeter1471 Using the same bland argument. Maybe they don't watch it for the "self-insert" stuff?
What the hell is this obsession with self-insert protagonists? People don't like bland protagonists, they like it when they have a 'backbone'. Male or female.
Funnily enough i'm in the exact same situation but i kinda want to see how thing go after.
Not "POSSIBLY"
**INEVITABLY**
as soon as bro died thats when i stopped watching the anime
Same
For context. Why did she kill him?
The power of the summoned ones eventually make them monsters no matter what because eat their souls so they have to kill them before they destroy the world.
Why are they summoned then? Naturally the world for some reason summoned this kids and gives them this powers, but some magic aristocrats also summon them so they can fight against church, church is the responsible to kill the summoned ones and avoid world destruction just like it almost happen a centuries ago.
So the girl is just killing all summoned ones?
No, she actually finds a Japanese girl who can't kill due her power of time so she needs to find a proper way to kill her but of course she later finds a little more about the trues of the magic world
1. There's ton of proof that letting summoned people give catastrophe i.e salt continent or pandemonium prison sea wall
2. Faust is actually good guy, they were trained by Ivory hero 1000 yrs ago. Back then 4 kids were summoned to help this planet to the point they achieve space travel, but after a while their power started to consume them and these 4 find out there's only one material worth to open portal to real world, so they did battle royal, only Haqua survive but she get info that the time girl (her significant other) will be summoned 1000yrs from now), so with her pure concept "purify" she developed scripture magic and tools and entrusted Faust to prevent any Isekai people (not let them to take the loot). She'd figured Akari pure concept will give her ability to respawn and reunited
not people dropping bc the male character died, that's so funny 😭
Ikr 😭 it's so predictable
Imagine having such a sad and pathetic life that you think people getting upset by a kid dying is because the kid is male. I pitty your parents.
I see all the anime but is very boring, if the mc is a woman generally is boring but of course there are exeptions
@@Beelfrozzmale mc is too cliche and boring plus too overused
I still cant believe how people get mad of watching believable Story telling. Like ofc they would kill him, after what his kind did to this world. Do people think the people in another world would just act like Npcs?
Sure let's genocide these super powerful beings from another world until one of them survives and says fck the world it's them or me and fcks shit up, oh and did I mention this person might be unkillable.
@S.I.K.E almost every anime is cringe
@@saery4523 eh not really depends on if you're skilled at enough being an idiot to talk about cringy shit then it's cringe.
@@saery4523 yeah but this one is top 1 cringe in my list
“Of what his kind did to this world” so basically since 9/11 happened, we should kill or ban any middle eastern from America, good logic
People think just because it’s not your generic isekai makes it good 😂 just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s good but that’s just my opinion, it might be for some people it might not be for others, that’s just the way it is.
It could´ve been good if it wasnt Yuri focused same with Murcielago.
Logic? How are you pure and just when that dude was literally a kid with an innocent heart? 😂
Feels like shes just jealous of his power, ofc I know nothing about this show.
Nope, summoned's power eventually make them monsters so they kill them before
@@Ksavero777.? Anybody could be evil without power like that as well, look at today plenty of mass murders happen
For the guys that ask: "WHY DID YOU DROPPED AFTER THIS?"
Dude, she literally had 0 motive to build trust and the entire day with the day if the objective was just to kill him, she could just said to come to another place and kill him instantly, thats why i dont like it. I dont think its the most logical anime and the way that she killed him was so unespected that honestly i felt that i should watch this bullshit, they may do shit things again.
Wasn’t the reason she built trust was to see what his power was so she could dispose of him in a safe manner?
She was checking to see if he really had a power or not. If he didn’t, she wouldn’t have needed to kill him. That’s why she spent the day with him, but instantly tried to assassinate the other one.
@@nevermore7285true, she got Intel the king summon two lost one, if the boy is the decoy than the real one is the girl, no needs to investigate cause she's clearly the one who the king intended to summons
Ight that's enough anime for today imma go and read the whole Solo Leveling again
3 time on the double solider!
I highly recommend Mercenary enrollment it's fuking fire as well!!!
@@EattingMeatSince82 oh that? Am still waiting for new chaps
@@EattingMeatSince82 Sending platonic virtual kisses!
@@bryanabreu thanks !!
Why are people still confused on how upsetting this scene was? Of course people would root for the guy. That guy could've been us. Taken from your life without consent, dropped on a foreign place with nothing but your underwear, only to be slaughtered in the end because of something you "might" do? And people expect us to root for the girl smh 🤦
You haven't watched or read the LN, why do you think you're qualified to comment?
@@hellraizzer7064 I fail to see how reading the LN is relevant to the point of my comment.
@hellraizzer7064 why do people need qualifications to comment💀
@@zulzul-c1r Bro thought he's on a job interview 😭💀
Most people watch an anime, not because they can say “hey, that’s me!”, but to be entertained. The anime has a good world building and an alright character portfolio. The “might be” phrasing isn’t accurate when 100% of the summoned ones needed up being destructive. We don’t expect you to “root” for anyone, just realize that some animes or media may incorporate different themes than what you’re used to.
oh boi the huge amount of dopamine that rushed through my body when Menou stabbed this guy's head, and more when she confirmed he's dead. It was the best scene, it's like i see the great light of freedom from ducking isekai+shounen+powah+harem-ish trend.
tho the anime did feel over edgy on the last few episodes, i like yuri and i like edgy/creepy but it felt like they kinda overstepped it a bit that it wasn't impactful anymore. I still liked the anime tho.
where the anime went from typical isekai power fantasy to something much more interesting.
If you find muderting inocents interesting, seek professional help, dont watch cartoons...
The comments are interesting thinking everyone hates this scene because everyone loved this generic copy n paste character. A comment pretty much explained how a lot of us felt me included and it only had like 41 likes. All the other high liked comments is just "this guy is generic and so many people loved him!'
Isn't the extra reason this is annoying because she turns hypocrite and chooses to save a lost one because uwu cute girl yuri x yuri?????
What the, no after EP 12 she continues to salt continent to retrieve sword salt (only counter to pure concept). This timeline is different cuz pandemonium escape and change route, but it pretty much ends same way, only difference is they actually reached salt sword but Haqua (ivory hero) is there but she got hit with salt sword. Menou entire resolve to yeet akari didn't change even when Flare told her this timeline has happened many times, or how menou is created from Haqua.
How to ruin an anime in 99 sec
So many isekai shows are basically clones of each other (yet I still watch them ...), but this show... was a lowkey standout! I loved the character development/tension from all their secrets, the interesting settings and abilities, the animation... and the constant mix of action, tragedy and hope... With great power comes great... irresponsibility. Is death inevitable? Can she ReZero her way out of this insanity, or does she doom us all selfishly (or is it selflessly?)
But alas... seems bleak a season 2 will ever show.
PSA - I skipped the first episode when I rewatched it. Maybe more people would have gotten into it, if not for that bold first episode. (I think it's clever and definitely shocked me in a way most anime won't risk. But it also seemed to alienate many... I'm sure many were like, well that's a waste. But Ep 2 is where it really begins...)
I believe it would´ve been more welcome to the audience if menou gave a test to isekai Wannabee MC, by bringing him the king and see what he does with him, after realizing he´s just going to kill she kills him, this would be interesting in that she´s not only doing her job, but she´s going the extra step to show the king why supressing other worlders from coming is actually a good idea.
I'm Glad!
I'm happy!
This guy not get any harem!
You’re typing like you’re in the stone age
@@bigbuffoilymen chill they're still on program, they'll be updated probably next year
@@bruhment82 you talking about his pfp?
Bro literally did nothing wrong, he just just pulled up to the wrong neighborhood 😭
He tried to start his harem with the assassin chick, never a good idea, especially when you dont even know your cheat skill.
Would’ve been interesting to see the protagonist from eminence in the shadow be brought into this Scenario instead of his.
... you're actually right. His martial arts training might save him here and he'd constantly be being hunted for being an otherworlder. He'd be caught between using his abilities to survive and not using them to avoid losing his memories and going insane (yeah... in some cases the Faust are honestly doing the otherworlders a favour by killing them).
It would show a flaw in the Faust mentality of "kill them before they cause an apocalypse", because they're potentially bringing an apocalypse by forcing an otherworlder to use their abilities in self-defense.
Then cid would have manipulated the characters as flare does to akari to make her loop back and forth zillion times.
He's just a generic self insert
So do they really die or atleast get sent back to their world when they die 🙁
If they follow Isekai rules then there is no third chance of life
@@HzG_R the light novel doesnt follow isekai rules lmao
@@hayasechan6667 nope. Go get caught up with the light novel lmao
If you got 1 life left, it's game over
Sorry @@SycoticForeverNeverAF I can't read something with Innocent blood being spilled without throwing my phone at something.😕
I was like "wait did she really just-"
Kill him? yes Although its a dogshit anime the plot twist made it interesting(for a while) and i kinda liked it cuz there were like 1% of the total anime that have this sudden change of story but this anime wouldve been a lot better and perfomed a lot more well if the dude didnt die and was alive the yuri stuff prob wouldnt have happended but it wouldve performed a lot better just my theory
@@mintycotton1081 No it wouldn't and it would just be a typical isekai example. Even if it was yuri instead (not my preference), they needed to give better plots to connect to the characters.
@@mintycotton1081 it's not even a plot twist. The fact that you thought this was supposed to be the twist proves that the only thing that's dogshit is the bubblegum sized brain in your head.
@@mintycotton1081that isn’t a plot twist though
Looks interesting 😮 gotta add to my "to watch" list
Its literally in the title 'The Executioner and her way of life' meaning our mc is The Executioner lol..people who dropped this anime have no common sense if they thought the mc is a male lmfao
Its scary that you eventually will be allowed to vote...
@@markfrost2307It’s scary that you are allowed to vote
@Hayase Chan, you should personally be held responsible for spreading this vile hate.
So is it ALL anime fans that are this bad at understanding themes and story structure, or is it just the ones HERE?
Just the ones here bestie, it’s the straight boys finding out that women can be isekai mcs as well very shocking to them ik. Let’s be honest, literally 80% of ppl who watched this vid have not even seen the anime, just found this from their fyp and decided to think Menou was the bad guy and killed the true mc. This is also a very out of context clip I would say.
But you have to understand even the story structure itself is kind of whack and has been stated by people who actually did watch and read all the material most of it is kind of b*******, like you're literally summoning people knowing even though they're generally good people that they will be evil, and if that's happening why didn't the church just erase people's memories of this entire event and erase people's memory so that they will never recreate this ritual summoning again it's kind of weird n****. You also have to remember that a lot of boys watch isekai so it's going to be catered to the dudes I don't know what you're trying to come here for but the two of you in this comment section are wilding
@@faith4657 u meant the anime is
dogshit. Got u
You saying straight males literally means you watch the show for yuri, the people who dislike it would rather just watch an actual good dark isekai with amazing characters and world building like re:zero dont pull the cis gender male card for this mid shit anime
@@mukuroikusaba7347 fax thank you
The problem is his way of thinking is twisted he said "anyone getting his way he'll kill" he could be a great mc for a revenge anime though
Tbh if ppl are wondering why so many people dropped this, lemme simply explain:
Villains are somehow acceptable, pdf files are somehow accpetable, psychopaths are also somehow acceptable to some extent. But what 90% of ppl cant tolerate are hypocrites thats exactly the reason me and my boyz dropped this shit.
However i did give it a 2nd chance later, and honestly its not that bad. But the mc just leaves a bad taste every time she does her job, which is morally upsetting. Overall the story is pretty nice and the Ending(novel ending) is not bad, but it jsut leaves a question as to just "WHy even go through all of that for such bullshit?"(those who read till i ending probably understood what im talking about)
Definitely no, lol. People can love hypocrites. Light Yagami is an hypocrite, a psychopath and a villain, yet he is a great character. Same goes for Eren, Kiritsugu, Ainz, etc...
People could have dropped this because of production issues, bad adaptation or bad source material idk. But clearly given the hate it has received, it irked some people greatly that the girl was the one betraying the guy. Since it was the same with Talentless Nana, one can only wonder. Is it the hypocrysy, the betrayal, the edginess... or just the gender ? Because I highly doubt people would have cared that much the other way around.
@@wandy8842 for me (personally), it's because of Yuri. I'll always avoid Yuri and Yaoi stuff. There are many people like me out there, maybe that's why no Yuri or Yaoi will ever get top 10 rank anime of all time.
@@PolterGlast Yeah it's fair. I should precise my point because I was only talking about dropping at this moment and there is no yuri before this scene.
I do think that this would be possible for a yuri show to appear in top 10 though. Bloom Into you is in the top 50 most rated manga on Anilist so if it had a complete adaptation, it would definitely have gotten in the top 10 places after airing (before probably slowly falling out of the top 10 as most shows do).
Yeaa I kinda dropped it right after cuz it got a bit boring. Not cuz the dude died tho, i just felt the plot couldn't catch up. Might be wrong, Maybe I'll try watching again
should have been the real protag👎", "Yuri trash 🙄"
Eren coming genocide: "Let's gooo king!!🎉", "He's so cool!❤", "I wish i was like him 🥳"They deserve to die for what they did to him 🤩"
I can understand people who simply don't like to see innocent people die, but this is how this world works. It's a sad thing for sure, but it's also a necessary measure...
I mean, it wold not be necessary if the ones in power would simply stop summoning innocent people boys and girls to die, but yeah. Given enough time in this world, they would inevitably become walking nuclear bombs
yeah no, if that was the case, just stop fucking summoning them? oh right the people in power are actual demons who are already fucking over the world, honestly the isekai protags would be doing the world a justice
Aot is a masterpiece compared to this utter trash. Its not very comparable
@@DrPepperFanlike how there's idiots in power in their world too is not different than us the problem is the otherworlders are literally a walking world enders there's four errors in that world and a whole continent got turned into salt cuz of one other worlder going berserk
Many people wanted this to be the generic and usual isekai story when the mc get OP and gathering his own harem of the otherworldly women. The thing is this is YURI isekai anime, so the first thing the author did was to kill any of the lost one (at least the male one that are the manifestation of generic self insert main character the otakus and weebs wanted to be as shown in the first episode), which triggered a LOT of them. And i am all for it to see most of them self insert otakus rage quit. Ah...so glorious, lmao.
I don't know what they're expecting, like of course the YURI anime is not gonna care about it's male characters. This isn't the best story ever it's weak in it's presentation but the only thing they're mad about is that their self-insert got killed off lol they're trying so hard to make this guy relevant
Screw you, you yuri loving basement dweller. You're just as bad as all the self inserting weebs you dislike.
U r mad that not many people that didn't like this anime everyone have different taste🤣🤣 borring mc? It's far better then a same old traumatic typical boring unlikeable female
Okay this is the most pettiest s*** I've ever seen, like what what you call generic isekai main characters is accessible to both male and female just so you wait eventually this story is going to go stale, and you also forget the fact that humans are genuinely born compared to these anime and fictionalized characters that we watch. People are mad because the mega got smoked for being innocent so mind you for people thought, like you didn't even do anything yet though and he got killed for no reason, this s*** itself is pretty much also a self-insert I don't want the bad concepts of the fact that people even though genuinely good will go evil eventually this is just stale as f*** come on and you coming around trying to bad mouth people just because they wanted something similar or different than what was here it's just low and it says a lot about you as a person.
@@bbbees4479 for right, hahaha.
I would watch more anime if male characters like this got offed so quickly and unceremoniously., because it's not about them.
oh my. You poor sweet summer child lmao. The lost ones are literally the main theme of the light novel 😂
Ya Menou is THE protagonist. And she kills off men and women isekai protagonists
Does she kill any , or just the types who are getting arrogant, because they have power?
@@seulbilee1025 hard to say but maybe any since it’s likely all sides suck although the lost ones look bad themselves maybe
@@SycoticForeverNeverAF I know that, it's just that so much of anime is copy pasting wish-fulfillment of the most milquetoast otaku to the point where I want to scream/quote Miyazaki when he said, "Anime was a mistake."
I've been around, son. I watched anime when the only way we could get it was from copies of copies of copied VHSs. I haven't watched anime since the late 2000s, ever since the moe craze reared its ugly head.
The only reason I discovered this was from an acquaintance on another site that noted about the lesbians in it, but I've been queerbaited too much to give allegedly queer anime my time since it's either homophobic or immature to the point where I just stopped. So, yeah. Sorry for the rant.
I see, you’re referring to a different part of the quote. Here is the full version of Madara Uchiha's line including that segment:
**"Wake up to reality. Nothing ever goes as planned in this accursed world. The longer you live, the more you realize that reality is just made of pain, suffering, and emptiness. In this world, wherever there is light, there are also shadows. As long as the concept of winners exists, there must also be losers. The selfish desire of wanting to maintain peace causes wars, and hatred is born to protect love. There are nexuses, causalities, and destinies. So, wake up to reality and understand that there is no such thing as a happy ending. And for those who don’t understand, I will destroy this world and create a new one with my own hands."**
Remember: canonically there are four disasters in this world and they’re caused by the otherworlders going out of control and they end up having their powers to berserk. If I remember one of it caused a whole continent to have a majority of it become salt. So yeah that’s 4 whole continents fucked up by just *4 people*
Yeah, salt continent was about size of Russia or something, being dissolve every day. Rip the marine life there. Owh and since their power is realty bending, even after thousand of years, the continent is still the same size (it regenerate the size after dissolving). Pandemonium is fog barrier across the sea, again rip the marine life there. Where it imprisoned a girl who conjures up eldritch monster and doing game of thrones inside the fog barrier.... mechanical society and Starbucks is harmless...if you don't go there
Unless it's star husk, I read there's treasure there but it traps anyone who wanders in
I'm only one who thought this similar to talentless nana
I thought it was gonna be a generic isekai before that moment
I would say the girl is lucky to never encounter Yogiri Takatou, otherwise she would be doomed.
Nah yogiri would find a way to leave this planet alone, not after learning how predecessor of lost one screw half this planet, and the power system of lost one consume personality and memories, not really an equivalent exchange 💱. He knew staying there would put the inhabitants in danger if he uses his power
He is not the same as Yogiri Takatou, because Yogiri Takatou has one parent and his girlfriend, unlike him. I feel like he is a different person.
Yogiri would never enter that verse if it's Yogiri she would be dead quick by his single thought
I held off on this one for a while , then I found out it was Yuri and the MC was a girl, Just finished, it was really interesting, I’m glad that first dude wasn’t a main characters I’m tired of male MC, like really tired of them….
Finally someone with the same boat as mine.
That’s just being toxic bruh. I like male MCs like Ainz and Rudeus but for you to be generalising everyone like that it’s not the way. It’s just you being a misandrist and the Twitter hole is where you belong.
Just plan to kill the king bruh if the mc girl plan to kill that bullsh*t king
I used to likes male mc and mxf but i already bored of it because anime keep do same thing to male mc and mxf, for me its time to move on
i feel like all of the criticism of this show gets clumped under oh ur a loser who liked the self insert character, but theres a lot of stuff other than that, personally i dont care about the dude but isnt it jarring to have a protagonist with no issues killing someone who hasnt done anything yet, and before you say oh but he said hes gonna fuck up everyone he hates, true he did say that but in the very next ep she murders a fuckin healer who had no such intentions(sure she revives later but thats irrelevant)by that you can kinda tell she woulda killed the dude regardless of his motivations. the whole edgy idea of saying oh ur just an innocent and im the villian, like yea bitch you are and it doesnt absolve you of any of the blame. Whats honestly kinda creepy is how casual it is, like yea she expresses regret for having to kill him but acts all cutesy tootsie with her murder buddy right after this, wtf thats so jarring to have a character thats murdered countless innocent people with no intentions of hearing them out. i dont think this character deserves a redemption arc or a happy ending
The claims of people wanting the self insert only apply to people trying to morally critique this action.
“Oh he didn’t do anything yet.” Bruh, this doesn’t matter. He has the power to nuke the continent and ruin hundreds of thousands of lives. It might not feel great to kill him, but it is absolutely the correct choice. This is also why she tried to kill the “healer.” His motivations straight up do not matter to her. Nor should they.
Second, you trying to frame the second person as a “healer.” Is just weird. She had a true concept of time, and like all true concepts, it could eventually grow out of control. It doesn’t matter what it does now. It almost feels like you didn’t pay attention to anything on screen.
Her calling the kid “innocent” his her feeling guilty about something that HAS to happen, it’s the same reason she does it casually, it is literally to save the ENTIRE WORLD. Again, it feels like you just didn’t watch.
You also say she “acts cutesy” and has “no intention to hear people out.” Yeah, I’m order to do her job of getting close to people, she pretends to be friendly, wtf do you want her to do lol? Be honest to the living nukes? Also, “hear them out” what is there to hear out? It doesn’t matter what they say, they could still nuke the country. What would you have her do? “Are you going to feel very sorry when you kill thousands?”
Can’t believe so many male anime fans got so offended at an interesting concept for an isekai that they dropped such a cool plot because uh muh power fantasy
Yeah it's quite sad how they got so bent out of shape over this scene. I've heard the novels for this anime are even better.
womp womp
I'd drop it too, not because the guy died, but because of the cringy dialogues she delivered to the deadbody. "You don't deserve death,I am the villain". My deadbody would commit suicide hearing those.
Honestly, I’m tired of seeing animes with basic male characters that have nothing interesting about them, gaining large amounts of power for reasons. It’s bland, over used, and they get more praise for being basic. I think the real MC killings him off is a step in a better direction. She’s complex and it shows a push back on colonization in fantasy worlds. It’s fresh and I get the feeling this show will only get more intriguing
Plus the yuri in the genre
Honestly I agree with you idk why I see people complain about the female mc
@@Oliver-fv5un ehh, I just like seeing what overpowered power they give the mc and how they use it, I like op things it's why one punch man was so clean in my opinion, when she kills him it's kinda like wow your actually messed up
@@xMelat0n1nx Understandable. I honestly like OPM too especially with Saitama's struggle of seeing value on being the strongest, while everyone is blinded by their superiority complexes. Rimuru on one hand makes impossible ideal possible through power.
Regardless, shows with 'not so OP protagonists' doesn't really fall behind since it shows conflict, struggles, character depth, and "weight of action(like the do-or-die feeling)" better. It highlights hardwork and intellect. It's why Genos fights and Garou's struggles are satisfying to watch/read.
@@slashhack1463 oh yeah don't get me wrong good ol normal mcs that are we are cool too I enjoyed rezero a lot, I think the main thing upsetting people is it is introduce as a opm at first, people feel for the guy start to like him then kill him off as the bait shit
Mfs who whines about this anime because the girl is “evil” are the same people who will watch slop isekai anime where the protagonist has slave wives.
“Well Ackually”
Naw, rising of shield hero was a turn off for me because of that exact reason. I’m not alone, but people like me don’t comment about it so you only see those who like it. Clouds judgement.
The anime gives me a weird feeling that makes me not want to watch but I feel it’s a good read/watch
Same here for some reason, honestly i can say it has a good plot but i just dont like it
Yuri bait echi Not worth it
@@benzelwasington4059 wdym? The story itself is pretty worth it
Dude don’t,it’s a shit and boring show so don’t waste your time on watching it,oh and it’s Yuri type of shit so yeah......
wtf ecchi? Are you watched all episodes?@@benzelwasington4059
Uhh why is this anime getting thi much hate tho. I mean its alr if you don't like the way they did it but, i might be wrong. I feel like ppl wouldn't have said anything if the MC was a guy. It was the same for Talentless Nana. They called her a bitch. Ppl don't give hate to Light or eren killing innocent ppl? That's just how I feel. no offence
you know this show is good when it triggers shonen and harem fans that they reveiw bomb this at MAL
Because the boy died
I hate Eran and I hate this anime
Your just mad that people don't like this anime grow up people have different taste don't judge them for liking or not liking it
@@nv_51 I clearly mentioned it's alr it they don't like it for the story. Most of the haters call her a bitch. Why? Cuz they don't like this genre? Lmao that's stupid And I have no reason to be mad if they don't like this show. This was just a good 1 time watch for me. I just don't understand the reason. And just how and when did I sound mad😑
Imagine, if you didn't kill him what will he do to the world you live in? He have a power to nullify, and you already see him becoming something you'll afraid of in split second. Man I'll really kill him before he kill me.
If you hate this because the main character is a girl, then why are you watching Talentless Nana who did the same in the first episode. XD
innocent untill proven guilty, by your logic every criminal should get death punishment lol
yk he comes back to the classroom
@@Rand-m. what do you mean?
What kind of logic is that so in your opinion you should kill the person if you are only 2 person in the alley because you dont know if he have gun or not so before he has the advantage you should kill the guy that no fucking idea whats going on and just trying to go home
@@privatechange27 the guy nana killed aint dead
Satisfied! This is new!!!
Unlike isekai+harem+ecchi genre anime, if these three genres come together, the result will be a trash anime.
It's like watching the same story, only with different characters and titles.
What's more, there are so many girls, automatically there will be a lot of useless fan service.
There are too many trash anime.
Apparently if you combine
Subversion of isekai genere+yuri+bad pacing = you end up with something worse than shit anime XD
The heroes/the lost ones have caused so much damaged to this world!
Other anime heroes: destroying planets, galaxies and universes. People happy :>
This anime wouldve been a lot better if she either let him go or didnt kill him but hid him this guy wouldve made a nice calm and understanding mc its sad that she killed him on the first episode
@@mintycotton1081 I doubt that, did you ever see what he said after he saw what his power could do?
@@mintycotton1081 he literally said he's going to destroy anyone that stands in his way seconds after discovering his power. This video cut that part out for some reason.
I wonder what happens when a lost one understands how dangerous their power is or even shows disgust at their power
They still get killed
Yeah, they still get killed
Welp. One turned an entire continent to salt. There's that
@@boshwa20 Was it self-defense? 🤣🤣
I hated this anime from the beginning
To be fair this is prob how some people would decide to handle a situation like this irl
This anime is a colossal failure simply for this scene.
They structured the first episode like an isekai, got you to care about the guy then killed him right when things got interesting. THEN expect you to care about the girl after just because. Absolute dogshit
I know that Menou just did it for the sake of the world but she didnt have to make him trust her so much, she could've just killed him on the spot if when she knew he's a lost one
She literally explains why she does that
The dark side/reality of isekai
Or
What would happen if someone gets isekai in real life
Yup. When humans get powers they destroy.
The reality of those series with ISekai MC getting the demon, assassin, thief, bandit, or monster girl, first is that well, you risk death if her first impression of you is bad.
i feel as though a lot of people just dont actually read the subtitles for this as much of the complaints are explained within the show itself.
1. (The whole innocent and he may not go evil view) it is stated, not suggested that no matter what kind of person you are the more you use the pure concept the more it takes over you e.g "Null" guy would eventually want to return everything in the world to "Null"/nothing. its not a question of if its a question of when. and no pure concept user has gone against the rule yet not even in the novels, only thing that we dont know is how long it takes or if there are people who take longer then others to become their concept. as far as we know even Akari "Time" Will lose herself at some point though it is a bit more complicated when it comes to her but thats spoilers which im not going to delve into that deeply.
2. (the why dont they stop summoning if they know they will go mad argument) - its literally against the law and often if the summoners identities are found they do get punished, and just like real life its not a simple task to fully remove the knowledge on how to summon them (especially since there was a time when they were welcome to this world) and people do it for the same reasons people murder others in real life knowing full well they will go to jail etc some people just dont care or dont think of the long term consequences, or just straight up think they can control the power for their own purposes and dispose of it when not needed.
3. (Dislike that the Mc is the villain i guess idk if its the half way through the first ep twist or what?) now if u dislike menou cus shes bland or you simply dont like the character thats fair enough but the dislike of the entire show because they are not as morally "good" as they are first presented is odd and a lot of people are saying that shes a hypocrite for saying she is a "Just" and "Strong" priest and acting good seem to have the notion that she actually sees herself as the good guy in all this, when she doesnt. like right after killing the guy she says she knows that hes innocent and that she by the common view is a "villain". Yes she does somewhat justify herself by saying that at the end of the day it is the right thing to do as the otherworlders or essentially the bigger villains at the end of the day, but i think people fail to realise that she is just saying morally she is wrong and a bad person but is doing the correct thing as they have no other method of protection from another major catastrophe due to an otherworlders power. it should be evident aswell that she doesnt want to have to kill them, its the entire reason she has to justify herself but she does believe she has to be the one to do the job. (only full on spoiler here) it is later shown that the church trains orphans in order to become executioners and she decided that in simple terms she would be the one to kill as many otherworlders as possible in order so that the other children wouldn't have to be trained because as much as the character pretends to be emotionless she does have care about others. plus another reason is that she is massively influenced by flares view and approach hence the nickname "flairette" and thats because she had her entire identity kind of wiped thanks to an otherworlders power which doesnt help. which also means before akari she killed her targets pretty quickly before they had time to influence her, and its the main reason why momo is hesitant for akari to be around menou for long as she knows menou under the facade is kind
but anyway if u dont like the show you dont like the show i just found that some of the reasons people give are ones that are explained, and if you dont like the explanation provided then ye like u could argue that the fact otherworlders will go evil takes away some of the morality in the choice to kill them or not but imo what i think the opening was meant to show that even if they will be evil when they first arrive they are innocent and its not their fault. which is atleast explored in that menou basically doesnt want to do it and she knows it is murder not justified killins but at the end of the day from her knowledge it has to be done by someone and to her if someone has to do this horrible task she should so that others dont have to. so i do think its not just black and white but ye.
not like anyone going this paragraph anyway but oh well \_0_/
I bet you they wouldn't hate menou if she was a guy. If the genders were reversed they would be jerking off about how it's gender equality. They can't accept that not every isekai is a power fantasy
You explain it so perfectly.. oh well its not our loss but theirs. They missed a good anime
@@hyunjin3064 yeah. But the thing is, because of those bastards, getting a season 2 will be hard. I swear..
Loving this show but I've seen more people getting triggered by haters than I've seen haters getting triggered by the show. People asking #2 definitely aren't paying attention but people are allowed to be #1 and #3.
I think it makes sense for many people to not like it. You spend the first episode feeling sorry for this guy, only to have him get murdered from behind simply because he said something sus. (I know it implied he was getting corrupted but by face value I mean.)
She's shown to be a controversial character in the very first episode with no build up to warm yourself up to her, so it's not a surprise that the comments are a civil war on this clip.
Even I found myself a little annoyed with her monologue right after the kill (like you said, describing herself as "pure" and "just" probably didn't do her any favours with newcomers to the series and shows her kinda distancing herself from being at fault,) and regardless of her trauma, her not giving him a real chance and killing him as soon as he says the wrong thing definitely broke my heart for him.
All that said, I think the plot is interesting and I'm interested to see how Menou changes as a character. Doesn't mean I think she's justified in what she's doing or even a good person, but it also doesn't mean I believe people who drop it are wrong or don't understand the characters. Even the best written shit bags won't get a pass from everyone.
TLDR- Let's get along and enjoy what we love.
@@kingweeb550 Menou's being sarcast when she calls herself pure. 🤣
Same plot as the anime TALENTLESS NANA
Power girl shit lmao
Similar but not the same
Ye another dog shit
@@bruhment82 Yuri BS, just like Murcielago.
Well it was a little bit unfair.. Imagine playing games in ur room.. And someone summoned u and they throw u out from castle. And thn a cute gurl betray u and killed u.. Too much sadness...
I wish someone like subaru (reverse time by dieng) destroy this verse
Enough of Subaru already
Subaru has already experienced enough trauma let him rest lol
Akari can interfere with time too
bigger scale and effects, she once use Hakai (time wheathering) and instant transmission (teleport magic)
I love how you immediately start off with a Self-Insert "Imagine play game suddenly get summoned and killed"
And the fact this comment got 50 likes, prove how much people love to self insert themselves to generic bland OP protagonist.
And unfair.. sure. But it has to be done. Or risk Human Error that will kill big part of the world.
@@kiattim2100 i like how nobody blames the Nobles or "the world" for summoning people from Japan. They just put all blames on Faust who's trying to prevent another continent yeeted from existance
For me to be upset with this scene had nothing to do with me being a weeb. Which I’m not, I just didn’t f*** with the lack of empathy or mortality that was shown here for this. Just a bad start to a story. If you’re trying to market something definitely definitely don’t start with this. Especially when the main audience is weebs
I guess people who are hating this for killing him have never watched death note 😂
I think they already watched that. They hating this anime probably because of self insert male mc got killed
People already hate light tho?
Lights character was something else bro. u shouldn't compare any shit to that masterpiece.
@@adiabeer3636masterpiece?
@@vincentlucario5450 yeah without any doubt
I enjoyed this anime, even the part where it wasn’t going to be a normal trashy isekai, until it turned into a garbage yuri self insert.
Dude was literally designed to be a generic male mc blank slate. There are hundreds like him in anime. The people choosing to be seriously angry over him worry me. It just reeks of incel outrage