This was awesome to watch! You make the best tutorials around here, i've learned many tricks thanks to you (on my streetboard wich is going to annoy you), my favorite being a little combo using à Boardwalk to get in the right stance for a Reintges flip ! But i'm loosing track here, my point is, feel free to put up some more freestyle randomness, that was a blast to watch !! Spacewalking half a building like nothing !!
I think once the Euro Freestyle competition is out the way, I want to do a bit more "philosophy of freestyle" stuff - less straightforward trick tip, and more "these are the things you may not have thought about that would make everything better". They take far longer to make, though. And yes, put that street board in the bin already!
@@FreestyleTricktips yeah i Can see why they take more time to make ! I'll watch them with great pleasure. And no chance i'm throwing my Powell peralta flight deck away, freestyle, Park and street it does everything so Well ! (But sometimes i might invest in a proper freestyle board, never actualy rode one)
@@jeremiaslanz7099 trust me: if you get an actual freestyle setup, you'll see that claiming a Flight popsicle does freestyle well is a ludicrous statement. The big problems are length and angles. You constantly have to stretch like a madman to do a lot of tricks on a street board, and the steepness of the tails makes the deck feel heavier than it is - meaning you end up using far more pressure, killing any subtlety of motion. I skated street decks from 1999 to 2003 or 2004 because I couldn't get anything else at the time. Getting onto a proper freestyle setup opened up a whole new world for me - it was like having limiters taken off. I improved massively within the first month, even. It's such a radical difference.
@@FreestyleTricktips yeah i see your point. I noticed it myself of course while trying freestyle stuff that it limits me, but the cool thing is i Can do whatever i want during my session without having to Switch board wich pisses me off more than it should 😂 Yeah i also suffer have Bad access to freestyle boards and wheels where i live in France and don't really know what set up i should order online seeing as i never tried one. If i ever stumbled upon one in a skateshop i would already have bought one to be honest.
@@jeremiaslanz7099 France has always been a bit of a freestyle dead zone in this "new era" (i.e. anything after 2000). Thankfully things are starting to change, but there's still not a lot of good supply over there. A lot of the French skaters get their stuff from me in the UK (www.offsetskatesupply.co.uk), but it'd obviously be better if there were actual stores in France carrying freestyle gear. As for the annoyance at swapping boards: honestly, I get it. Carrying a freestyle setup + a slalom one at the weekends, or a freestyle setup and a ramp board on skatepark trips... yeah, it's annoying. But it's honestly far LESS annoying than trying to do caspers on a street deck, knowing full well that they feel a million times better than on a real freestyle setup. Having two boards is very much the lesser of the evils for me.
That's just a rail shuvit. If you do it rolling (without stopping in rail stand, in much the same way you do a casper disaster), it's called a frixion flip.
Then you obviously didn't watch right to the end. Freestyle on a street board is awful. I'd honestly rather take up rollerskating than go back to having to use street boards again!
The nose is too short, the tail is too square, the rails are too curved. There's literally nothing good about it and almost any single kick is a better option, no matter what tricks you enjoy doing. Add in the fact that it's twice as expensive as a modern freestyle deck from any real freestyle company and you'd have to be an absolute idiot to use a Chessboard in 2023.
Hiya, Happy to find your channel! I know it’s a bit of a weird question, but aten’t you selling some second hand skateboards? I’m recovering from leukaemia and i see skateboarding as a great opportunity to get my fitness back. Totally beginner, but big fan of freestyle(too bad it isn’t a popular style here in the uk)
I'm sorry to hear about your leukaemia - that's rough. A friend of mine is going through treatment for that right now, but I'm glad to hear you're out the other side. To be honest, I very rarely have anything second hand or part-used that's even remotely useable to sell; I tend to ride all my gear until it's in bits (or keep them around for testing ideas or filming something like this, if they're something unusual). It's usually only new products that I'm testing or filming a review of that I pass on to people when I'm done with it. Roughly whereabouts are you in the UK? Denham Hill is running semi-regular beginner's freestyle sessions at LS-Ten skatepark in Leeds, and once the weather gets better, I'll be organising sessions in London at the weekends. There'll be "loaner" boards available at both so you can have a bit of a play.
@@FreestyleTricktips thaks for your reply! First of all good luck to your friend! I got the whole package, chemo, irradiation and bone marrow transplant, it isn’t fun, but doable! Best I can say to try to stay strong mentally, and don’t lose the sense of humour! I was joking a lot about my sickness, it helped me to take a bit easy, if you take it too serious, it can burry you (metaphorically or even physically…) I live in Scotland, close to Edinburgh, but I’ll keep your suggestions in mind! Probably i’ll just start on a regular popsicle board and get a proper one if i’m still keen after couple of mounts :) I think I can learn basic footworks and some easier tricks on those ones too (tic toc, monster walk, walk the dog…)
@@MoshOrDieUnless you're really tall (think over 6ft), that stuff is usually harder on a street board as you need to spread your legs MUCH further apart. It's the absolute worst. Plus, the steep kicktails make everything seem heavier and more effort... not great. There are a bunch of freestylers hidden away in Scotland - I think they've organised a few meetups somewhere closer to Glasgow in recent years. But they are out there! If you have Instagram, try contacting @Stagger_lees on there and tell him I sent you; he's over that way, and he might know of another session/meetup you could get involved with. He's a very friendly and helpful bloke, too... but don't tell him I said that.
@@MoshOrDieThat's the reason I do this whole thing! No one should have to struggle to get involved with freestyle like I did back in 2001. Stay in touch and let me know if you need anything!
If you're talking the original kickflips I'm doing here, then no - absolutely no difference. You sometimes have to think a bit more carefully about which way round the board is (doing an M80 - a kickflip to a pivot - where you land on the flat nose for the pivot feels weird), but that's it. As for ollie-based ones... you won't be able to get them as high and you'll need a slightly different technique, but they still work. They were invented on a flat nose freestyle deck, after all.
so ik the original rodney mullen single kick type decks are as advanced [or just straight up worse then] as the ones today,but just out of curiosity why? besides its mellow kicks and lack of concave,are there any other reasons i should take note of?
Every board based on Mullen's two Powell-Peralta decks, the Mutt and the Chessboard, suffers from the same three problems: 1) excessively short nose. It's barely useable for most people - it's barely as wide as my shoe, making caspers a lot harder than they have to be. 2) very curved rails; the board rocks around in rail a lot. It's very much a relic of the 70s in that regard; rail tricks have moved on, and that design hasn't. 3) the tail is a completely square block. Most single kicks have relatively square tails, but the Chessboard is just taking the piss. Add onto that the fact you're paying Powell's reissue prices for a Chessboard, and there's literally no reason to buy one unless you're desperate for overpriced wall art or the perfect finish to an 80s freestyle cosplay. Moonshine's Kill Your Idols was designed to be a modern replacement that fixes all these problems, and is largely equivalent to (but massively better than) the Chessboard. On the other hand, Mode's Deco gives you a more modern take on the single kick formula if you want something a bit larger without getting into stupid territory. And if you wanted to stick with 80s classics, Decomposed's reissue of the late 80s Hazze Lindgren board from Schmitt Stix shows where single kicks were going by the end of the decade, while Powell had refused to improve or modernise already outdated designs throughout the 80s.
@@FreestyleTricktips don't forget that they also use the stupid old school screw pattern on their reissues so that's another headache for anyone not aware
@@CKT1138 Fun fact: when my pro model was in the process of being made, I half-jokingly suggested giving it the "old-school" mounting pattern. I was using Trackers at the time (which have both patterns), and wanted to ensure people didn't use shitty Indy 109s on the board (as they only have the "new-school" pattern). Thankfully, the guy who runs Moonshine talked me out of it, as Tracker was bought out by Brad Dorfman a year or two later and the trucks effectively became unobtanium from that point on. You could still use Paris 108s on an old-school mounting pattern, though. Or Bear 105s.
What trucks do you have on your everyday setup? I watched your truck video and could not find most of the trucks you talked about! Driving me crazy! Paris trucks way to high. More of a mid guy.
Yeah, trying to get hold of stock of any brand of trucks has been an utter nightmare ever since the pandemic hit. I get one batch in and then have to wait ages for more to turn up. I'm using the Film 4.25" trucks these days. It's a bloody lovely truck. I still have the Death collab ones in stock - offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/film-x-death-4-25-trucks/ - but the raws have been out of stock for a few weeks now.
Wow I’m guessing Lawrence told you to prove it. (or you could say put your money where your mouth is) and this definitely proves that you can indeed kickflip anything. Well done
I think the next step is going to have to be borrowing (or making) a Lonnie Toft-style 8-wheeler and seeing how much freestyle can be done on one. I already know I can kickflip them, so... what else?
@@FreestyleTricktips spacewalk or try doing a nose hook impossible or half-cab (if u can kickflip them then u could likely oille kickflip them) honestly i think you can do a 360 spin on a 8 wheeler? (I could probably think of lots but I’ll stop there lol)
"stop freestyling on streetboards!" Yes, people can do freestyle on streetboards, for some tricks it might even be easier because a bigger board is easier to control. But it doesn't look as elegant. One reason being how much you have to spread your legs, another reason how much effort you need for every move ... (this argument maybe doesn't apply to John Sawyer). 😆
I'd argue that even in John Sawyer's case it holds true. Both him and Connor Burke - two major street board "successes" - would look better if they weren't always so stretched out to get to both ends of the board. It's not a good look.
This is the original kickflip technique from before the ollie kickflip was invented. That's why it looks different to what you may have seen elsewhere.
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I’ve always wondered what skateboarding a grave stone would look like
Oof. I'm glad this one isn't quite that heavy. Imagine getting your foot caught under a kickflip to casper on an actual tombstone? nopenopenope
Love the little slow Jungle / Breakbeat track you put
Thanks, man. That's really been my vibe lately.
That super thick board looks like a lot of fun, and a nightmare haha. Reminds me of skateboards in cartoons. Awesome kickflip gauntlet.
Yeah, it does look like something Captain Caveman or Fred Flintstone would have ridden. It's just absurd.
@@FreestyleTricktips The longboard I made out of a bookshelf isn't even as thick. Can't imagine actually skating that monster.
This was super fun to watch :D Fantastic
This was awesome to watch! You make the best tutorials around here, i've learned many tricks thanks to you (on my streetboard wich is going to annoy you), my favorite being a little combo using à Boardwalk to get in the right stance for a Reintges flip !
But i'm loosing track here, my point is, feel free to put up some more freestyle randomness, that was a blast to watch !! Spacewalking half a building like nothing !!
I think once the Euro Freestyle competition is out the way, I want to do a bit more "philosophy of freestyle" stuff - less straightforward trick tip, and more "these are the things you may not have thought about that would make everything better". They take far longer to make, though.
And yes, put that street board in the bin already!
@@FreestyleTricktips yeah i Can see why they take more time to make ! I'll watch them with great pleasure.
And no chance i'm throwing my Powell peralta flight deck away, freestyle, Park and street it does everything so Well !
(But sometimes i might invest in a proper freestyle board, never actualy rode one)
@@jeremiaslanz7099 trust me: if you get an actual freestyle setup, you'll see that claiming a Flight popsicle does freestyle well is a ludicrous statement.
The big problems are length and angles. You constantly have to stretch like a madman to do a lot of tricks on a street board, and the steepness of the tails makes the deck feel heavier than it is - meaning you end up using far more pressure, killing any subtlety of motion.
I skated street decks from 1999 to 2003 or 2004 because I couldn't get anything else at the time. Getting onto a proper freestyle setup opened up a whole new world for me - it was like having limiters taken off. I improved massively within the first month, even. It's such a radical difference.
@@FreestyleTricktips yeah i see your point. I noticed it myself of course while trying freestyle stuff that it limits me, but the cool thing is i Can do whatever i want during my session without having to Switch board wich pisses me off more than it should 😂
Yeah i also suffer have Bad access to freestyle boards and wheels where i live in France and don't really know what set up i should order online seeing as i never tried one. If i ever stumbled upon one in a skateshop i would already have bought one to be honest.
@@jeremiaslanz7099 France has always been a bit of a freestyle dead zone in this "new era" (i.e. anything after 2000). Thankfully things are starting to change, but there's still not a lot of good supply over there. A lot of the French skaters get their stuff from me in the UK (www.offsetskatesupply.co.uk), but it'd obviously be better if there were actual stores in France carrying freestyle gear.
As for the annoyance at swapping boards: honestly, I get it. Carrying a freestyle setup + a slalom one at the weekends, or a freestyle setup and a ramp board on skatepark trips... yeah, it's annoying. But it's honestly far LESS annoying than trying to do caspers on a street deck, knowing full well that they feel a million times better than on a real freestyle setup. Having two boards is very much the lesser of the evils for me.
Great kickflip and the intro is a good instrumental beat!🔥🔥
What's the trick at 11:48 called? I've never seen anyone doing it but myself
That's just a rail shuvit. If you do it rolling (without stopping in rail stand, in much the same way you do a casper disaster), it's called a frixion flip.
I don't feel so bad about trying freestyle tricks on my 8.5" street board now!
Then you obviously didn't watch right to the end.
Freestyle on a street board is awful. I'd honestly rather take up rollerskating than go back to having to use street boards again!
02:09 qual o problema do shape do Rodney?
The nose is too short, the tail is too square, the rails are too curved. There's literally nothing good about it and almost any single kick is a better option, no matter what tricks you enjoy doing.
Add in the fact that it's twice as expensive as a modern freestyle deck from any real freestyle company and you'd have to be an absolute idiot to use a Chessboard in 2023.
Tony, can you try to kickflip (non-pop underflip style kickflip) on a ripstick?
God, I have no idea where I'd even start with that. We might have just found the limit of the kickflip there.
Hiya,
Happy to find your channel! I know it’s a bit of a weird question, but aten’t you selling some second hand skateboards? I’m recovering from leukaemia and i see skateboarding as a great opportunity to get my fitness back. Totally beginner, but big fan of freestyle(too bad it isn’t a popular style here in the uk)
I'm sorry to hear about your leukaemia - that's rough. A friend of mine is going through treatment for that right now, but I'm glad to hear you're out the other side.
To be honest, I very rarely have anything second hand or part-used that's even remotely useable to sell; I tend to ride all my gear until it's in bits (or keep them around for testing ideas or filming something like this, if they're something unusual). It's usually only new products that I'm testing or filming a review of that I pass on to people when I'm done with it.
Roughly whereabouts are you in the UK? Denham Hill is running semi-regular beginner's freestyle sessions at LS-Ten skatepark in Leeds, and once the weather gets better, I'll be organising sessions in London at the weekends. There'll be "loaner" boards available at both so you can have a bit of a play.
@@FreestyleTricktips thaks for your reply! First of all good luck to your friend! I got the whole package, chemo, irradiation and bone marrow transplant, it isn’t fun, but doable!
Best I can say to try to stay strong mentally, and don’t lose the sense of humour! I was joking a lot about my sickness, it helped me to take a bit easy, if you take it too serious, it can burry you (metaphorically or even physically…)
I live in Scotland, close to Edinburgh, but I’ll keep your suggestions in mind!
Probably i’ll just start on a regular popsicle board and get a proper one if i’m still keen after couple of mounts :)
I think I can learn basic footworks and some easier tricks on those ones too (tic toc, monster walk, walk the dog…)
@@MoshOrDieUnless you're really tall (think over 6ft), that stuff is usually harder on a street board as you need to spread your legs MUCH further apart. It's the absolute worst. Plus, the steep kicktails make everything seem heavier and more effort... not great.
There are a bunch of freestylers hidden away in Scotland - I think they've organised a few meetups somewhere closer to Glasgow in recent years. But they are out there! If you have Instagram, try contacting @Stagger_lees on there and tell him I sent you; he's over that way, and he might know of another session/meetup you could get involved with. He's a very friendly and helpful bloke, too... but don't tell him I said that.
@@FreestyleTricktips wow, thanks mate, it can be very helpful :)
@@MoshOrDieThat's the reason I do this whole thing! No one should have to struggle to get involved with freestyle like I did back in 2001. Stay in touch and let me know if you need anything!
Im trying to transition to freestyle and not sure if I should do a single or double kick. Does it make a difference for kickflips?
If you're talking the original kickflips I'm doing here, then no - absolutely no difference. You sometimes have to think a bit more carefully about which way round the board is (doing an M80 - a kickflip to a pivot - where you land on the flat nose for the pivot feels weird), but that's it.
As for ollie-based ones... you won't be able to get them as high and you'll need a slightly different technique, but they still work. They were invented on a flat nose freestyle deck, after all.
so ik the original rodney mullen single kick type decks are as advanced [or just straight up worse then] as the ones today,but just out of curiosity why? besides its mellow kicks and lack of concave,are there any other reasons i should take note of?
Every board based on Mullen's two Powell-Peralta decks, the Mutt and the Chessboard, suffers from the same three problems:
1) excessively short nose. It's barely useable for most people - it's barely as wide as my shoe, making caspers a lot harder than they have to be.
2) very curved rails; the board rocks around in rail a lot. It's very much a relic of the 70s in that regard; rail tricks have moved on, and that design hasn't.
3) the tail is a completely square block. Most single kicks have relatively square tails, but the Chessboard is just taking the piss.
Add onto that the fact you're paying Powell's reissue prices for a Chessboard, and there's literally no reason to buy one unless you're desperate for overpriced wall art or the perfect finish to an 80s freestyle cosplay. Moonshine's Kill Your Idols was designed to be a modern replacement that fixes all these problems, and is largely equivalent to (but massively better than) the Chessboard. On the other hand, Mode's Deco gives you a more modern take on the single kick formula if you want something a bit larger without getting into stupid territory. And if you wanted to stick with 80s classics, Decomposed's reissue of the late 80s Hazze Lindgren board from Schmitt Stix shows where single kicks were going by the end of the decade, while Powell had refused to improve or modernise already outdated designs throughout the 80s.
@@FreestyleTricktips don't forget that they also use the stupid old school screw pattern on their reissues so that's another headache for anyone not aware
@@CKT1138 Fun fact: when my pro model was in the process of being made, I half-jokingly suggested giving it the "old-school" mounting pattern. I was using Trackers at the time (which have both patterns), and wanted to ensure people didn't use shitty Indy 109s on the board (as they only have the "new-school" pattern).
Thankfully, the guy who runs Moonshine talked me out of it, as Tracker was bought out by Brad Dorfman a year or two later and the trucks effectively became unobtanium from that point on.
You could still use Paris 108s on an old-school mounting pattern, though. Or Bear 105s.
@@FreestyleTricktips that is actually hilarious, I could only imagine how terribly that all could have gone down haha
@@FreestyleTricktips also, please tell me more about your thoughts on the Independent 109, I'm very curious
What trucks do you have on your everyday setup? I watched your truck video and could not find most of the trucks you talked about! Driving me crazy! Paris trucks way to high. More of a mid guy.
Yeah, trying to get hold of stock of any brand of trucks has been an utter nightmare ever since the pandemic hit. I get one batch in and then have to wait ages for more to turn up.
I'm using the Film 4.25" trucks these days. It's a bloody lovely truck. I still have the Death collab ones in stock - offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/film-x-death-4-25-trucks/ - but the raws have been out of stock for a few weeks now.
Wow I’m guessing Lawrence told you to prove it. (or you could say put your money where your mouth is) and this definitely proves that you can indeed kickflip anything. Well done
I think the next step is going to have to be borrowing (or making) a Lonnie Toft-style 8-wheeler and seeing how much freestyle can be done on one. I already know I can kickflip them, so... what else?
@@FreestyleTricktips spacewalk or try doing a nose hook impossible or half-cab (if u can kickflip them then u could likely oille kickflip them) honestly i think you can do a 360 spin on a 8 wheeler? (I could probably think of lots but I’ll stop there lol)
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"stop freestyling on streetboards!"
Yes, people can do freestyle on streetboards, for some tricks it might even be easier because a bigger board is easier to control. But it doesn't look as elegant. One reason being how much you have to spread your legs, another reason how much effort you need for every move ... (this argument maybe doesn't apply to John Sawyer). 😆
I'd argue that even in John Sawyer's case it holds true. Both him and Connor Burke - two major street board "successes" - would look better if they weren't always so stretched out to get to both ends of the board. It's not a good look.
That really is a big board
Im no skater, but , something seems off about the way you do kickflips
This is the original kickflip technique from before the ollie kickflip was invented. That's why it looks different to what you may have seen elsewhere.
@@FreestyleTricktips Oh, nice, I just learned something today.