Started skateboarding and freestyling at 37 this year. Your style is off the roof and inspiration. Cheers for the trick trips and all that is about to come. !
Eyyy, good man! I'm 36 now, and while I've been skating for a lonnnnng time (24 years), it's never too late to pick it up. I hope I can help you get up to speed in the coming months and years - you've got a lot of fun stuff still to try!
Ah, congratulations! You've got a lot of fun times ahead of you. Honestly, one of the best things about freestyle is that the road is truly endless. I've been doing this now for almost a quarter century and I'm still finding new and interesting things to do!
When you do give them a try, be sure to come back and leave a comment to let me know what you think about them. (Or, if you get them from Offset, leave a review on the site!)
Glad to hear you're somewhat doing okay. Also considering that the wheels are wider does that mean one would have to adjust potential washers on the axles?
Yep, that's right. You'd need one fewer washer per wheel than you would with a set of Focus... and about twenty six fewer washers than you would with some Nano Cubics.
that was a lot of good and very interesting info about those new wheels. but let us just be honest here for a second. You just needed a new wheel with stronger core to keep the bearings from popping out due to your increased weight. maybe Michael can make some thicker risers for you as well. if you stay away from the japanese stuff then half an inch should do. nice stationary combo though. was missing a pogo but not too bad. keep pushing! one day you will get them. I believe in you. I also hereby demand that from now on all stationary tricks have to be done in spot 69. hope you are doing well! sending hate from france
You just HAD to jinx it... Haha. Great to see you back in action. Also glad that you took the time to (mostly?) heal. One thing that also looked great about the Axons was the shaping on the outer edge. It looks more rounded than the old ones. Here's hoping I can heal up enough to skate a set one day 🤪
Aye, touch wood, I seem to be (mostly) healed. Although, ironically, I had a skate yesterday and felt an incredible pain in an intercostal muscle trying to 540 shuvit out of a spacewalk, so that isn't good! Nothing seems to be hurting there today, so I think I'm just out of shape and out of practice. Gotta get those muscles used to the abuse again. The Axon outside profile definitely has a more rounded edge... but it's also much less tapered. The highest point of the Axon (when you look at it in rail) is far closer to the outside of the wheel than the Focus - which means better rail stability. Me likey.
Seems too soft for summer, depending on the surface. I skate in +30 degrees and concrete that gets softer with heat. I usually use 99A and grip well in these conditions- anything below feels like having literally hand brake on. I have some 95A that are great for some more slippery surface like the old Brandenburg location. I hated the old Seismic , i think i had 100A : didnt grip at all and felt like skating on a piece of plastic ... not urethane. Sold em right away. Pics of broken cores didnt entice me to give the brand another go, yet.
ahen i asked denham what wheels he was riding and he said seismics i just assumed it was some rollerskate seismic i didnt know about. Ive seen rollerwheels with cores like that before
I'm looking to get new wheels and doing research outside over-hyped products to see what I like. Most people recommend the ricta clouds (too sticky and soft) or spitfire F4 (impossible for crusing the routes I take). I've been skating the 60mm dragons, I really appreciate the control they give me for powerslides, the width and softness also give me a lot of stability in cruising. At the same time, I regret getting them in 60mm as they're slightly too wide for stable rail stands on my street deck. They are also very slow, no matter the bearings. The seismic axons seem like an interesting alternative but it I do appreciate the slide-ability of the dragons formula, and 55mm is quite small for what I'm used to. Is it worth getting over these characteristics and working with a new wheel? Is there a better alternative with these qualities? I'm from Australia, so shipping will be a pain to pay for as well.. so hopefully I buy the right product. Any tips would be helpful!
I think we're in a very similar boat. Everything you've said matches with my experience of the Clouds, Formula Fours, and Dragons (and you're also the only other person I've met who recognises how weirdly slow that urethane is!). And - genuinely - I've not found a single better wheel than the 95a Axon for all-round use. There are, of course, a couple of caveats. First, the 95a Axons are much "stickier" than the Dragons are - but then, so is everything. They're not as gummy as the clouds are, but if you're not used to a 95a urethane, you might find it a bit weird to get them sideways at first. However, when I'm going fast across town or around a skatepark, it's nice knowing they're not going to suddenly lose traction in a hard carve like the Dragons do. Second, the Axons are wiiiiiiiide. The 58mm Nano Cubics give you 2.45mm of urethane past the axle nut; the Axons give you 5.85mm of urethane past the nut. That's a lot of extra width, and I generally recommend you look for a truck with an axle length 0.35-0.4" shorter than the intended width of your deck to accommodate this. If you can get past those two "issues", then honestly, you'll probably love the Axons. I'm not sure who's carrying them in Australia - you should contact Flatlandia (flatlandia.org/shop/), as I'm sure they'll know where to go. Alternatively, I can ship them from Offset (offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/seismic-axon/), and that might work out cheaper than getting them directly from Seismic in the US (seismicskate.com/product/55mm-axon-wheels/).
Thanks! It's hard finding information about this online, and frustrating forking out money and time on equipment without experience. I'll take you up on that. I'll order the 95a's at some point through offset skate supply. It's a shame, they're new trucks and you're definitely right about the dimensions working with a freestyle setup. Another opportunity to look into skate equipment!
@@taylaknott I can understand that. One of the reasons I started Offset (aside from making hard-to-find product more accessible) was the fact that skate shops and brands generally don't provide anything like enough information - and even if they do, there's no guarantee they'll get it right. For instance, Ace Trucks STILL say the Ace 11 has a 7.0" axle, and major skate shops are still regurgitating that without question. (They actually have a 7.25" axle. Pretty big difference.) Similarly, I'm thinking of bring Venom bushings in at Offset, and even the distributor doesn't have the physical dimensions of the bushings on file. How unhelpful is that? Bushing sizes vary wildly, and making sure you've got the right ones for your trucks is nigh-impossible at 99% of skate shops. It's a joke.
Exactly! I appreciated the reliable measurement chart on the offset website when I was considering buying a new set of Aces. Absurd that it isn't the standard broadcasted chart. I ended up going with film trucks from your review, I'll write a review of my own once they've arrived. Thanks for your help!
@@taylaknott ah, glad to hear someone else has jumped on some Films! I absolutely love those things and it seemed for a long time like people were passing over them just because they were some weird new Euro upstart, but they're so good. I love the feel of carving around on a set of Films - they're such a good truck.
The problem with any sort of tendon or ligament issue is how easy it is to "relapse" in the healing process; I had an issue with a different ligament in my ankle in 2015 or 2016, and for a *year* it would be agony every time I stepped up a curb weirdly. It drove me nuts, so I'm trying to take it easy with this one.
I remember when i used to have ricta core wheels, they were notorious for having the bearings being impossible to take out. is that not the same case for these?
Generally, it's the opposite: "natural" or uncored wheels, due to the imperfections caused by pouring urethane, can be really difficult to get the bearings in or out of. And while I've not used Rictas since the mid-2000s, I've never once struggled with bearing fitment in a cored Seismic wheel.
Do they have any 90a wheels? For street skating since a dude said their wheels have dense urethane? So I’m thinking it slides well even being soft? Dunno if I’m wrong or right, but hopefully someone understands what I’m looking for and can direct a brotha
Funny, I was literally talking to Seismic about this not long ago. Apparently the issue with wheels in the low-90s is that it's a tough urethane to work; most harder wheels are cast at larger sizes and machined down (which is why you usually get those "grooves" on the wheel when they're brand new). Low-90 durometers are tough to lathe and need to be frozen first. That's why you typically get a big gap between the upper 80s (say 88a) and the 95a and up durometers. The best "small and soft" option from Seismic is probably the Oscar - they intended it as a "filmer wheel" (hence the name) and is a fair bit softer than 90a, but should still work: seismicskate.com/product/54mm-57mm-oscar-wheels/ As far as "slideability"... that's going to depend on the wheel formula, and usually, there's a tradeoff. Powell's Dragons and Seismic's Elixir are both geared towards sliding, and achieve this through the use of a chemical additive to the urethane, but as a result of prioritising slideability, they're also notably slower than the same wheel at the same durometer with a different formula. Seismic's Defcon (the formula used in the Oscars) is designed for speed, and loses some grip compared to their other formulas, but is nothing like as slick as the Dragons or Elixir. I think it's a good middle ground; I'd rather go fast and force a slide than be forced to go slowly and have something slide when I'm not expecting it!
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The king is back.
LONG LIVE THE KING
(but not the actual English one, thx)
@@FreestyleTricktips Looking at the state of his health I don't think he'll be around much longer 😅
@@GhostHardware98 If nothing else, I'm looking forward to a few more bank holidays.
Started skateboarding and freestyling at 37 this year. Your style is off the roof and inspiration. Cheers for the trick trips and all that is about to come. !
Eyyy, good man! I'm 36 now, and while I've been skating for a lonnnnng time (24 years), it's never too late to pick it up. I hope I can help you get up to speed in the coming months and years - you've got a lot of fun stuff still to try!
HE’SSS BACKKKKKK
Started my freestyle journey a few weeks ago thanks to your videos! I have a long road ahead but having a blast 😄
Ah, congratulations! You've got a lot of fun times ahead of you.
Honestly, one of the best things about freestyle is that the road is truly endless. I've been doing this now for almost a quarter century and I'm still finding new and interesting things to do!
The goat, only reason I’ve been able to learn basically any freestyle tricks.
Glad to hear I could help! Let me know if there's anything in particular you want some help with.
Glad to see your rolling again mate, thank you for your insight and dedication to the craft. All the best,
I hope to see a new truck video with suggestions for bushings!
Ooh, bushings. Now you're talking my language.
Truck setup vid actually would be a pretty good thing to cover, I think.
cant wait for your new videos and to try the axon wheel!💯🙏
When you do give them a try, be sure to come back and leave a comment to let me know what you think about them.
(Or, if you get them from Offset, leave a review on the site!)
Pheeew, I thought grew up. Weber and kids..... Glad youŕe back :)
I'm excited for the longer informative/rambly videos!
Oh, you fool. You have no idea what you're in for.
@@FreestyleTricktips lol where just here for the ride! Keep up the skating and have fun with it
Whoo, those wheels look sexy. These are my next set. Can’t wait for the fresh content dude!
They are truly THE BEST
THE BEST
THE BEST
etc, etc
Glad to hear you're somewhat doing okay.
Also considering that the wheels are wider does that mean one would have to adjust potential washers on the axles?
Yep, that's right. You'd need one fewer washer per wheel than you would with a set of Focus... and about twenty six fewer washers than you would with some Nano Cubics.
that was a lot of good and very interesting info about those new wheels. but let us just be honest here for a second. You just needed a new wheel with stronger core to keep the bearings from popping out due to your increased weight. maybe Michael can make some thicker risers for you as well. if you stay away from the japanese stuff then half an inch should do.
nice stationary combo though. was missing a pogo but not too bad. keep pushing! one day you will get them. I believe in you. I also hereby demand that from now on all stationary tricks have to be done in spot 69.
hope you are doing well!
sending hate from france
The line about chonkier blokes smashing the bearing through the wheel was very pointedly about myself.
Beer is really fucking good, though.
Awesome review and freestyle to go with it!
You just HAD to jinx it... Haha. Great to see you back in action. Also glad that you took the time to (mostly?) heal. One thing that also looked great about the Axons was the shaping on the outer edge. It looks more rounded than the old ones. Here's hoping I can heal up enough to skate a set one day 🤪
Aye, touch wood, I seem to be (mostly) healed. Although, ironically, I had a skate yesterday and felt an incredible pain in an intercostal muscle trying to 540 shuvit out of a spacewalk, so that isn't good! Nothing seems to be hurting there today, so I think I'm just out of shape and out of practice. Gotta get those muscles used to the abuse again.
The Axon outside profile definitely has a more rounded edge... but it's also much less tapered. The highest point of the Axon (when you look at it in rail) is far closer to the outside of the wheel than the Focus - which means better rail stability. Me likey.
He is back
Seems too soft for summer, depending on the surface. I skate in +30 degrees and concrete that gets softer with heat. I usually use 99A and grip well in these conditions- anything below feels like having literally hand brake on. I have some 95A that are great for some more slippery surface like the old Brandenburg location. I hated the old Seismic , i think i had 100A : didnt grip at all and felt like skating on a piece of plastic ... not urethane. Sold em right away. Pics of broken cores didnt entice me to give the brand another go, yet.
Happy to see an update! ❤
Well, I had to prove that I'm still alive and that I still know what a skateboard is! See you in Brandenburg, mate.
You can really hear that new wheel corduroy sound
I love that swish. Never get tired of it.
ahen i asked denham what wheels he was riding and he said seismics i just assumed it was some rollerskate seismic i didnt know about. Ive seen rollerwheels with cores like that before
He wasn't supposed to tell people! (Although, it was pretty bloody obvious - a bit pointless hiding it for so long, TBH)
I'm looking to get new wheels and doing research outside over-hyped products to see what I like. Most people recommend the ricta clouds (too sticky and soft) or spitfire F4 (impossible for crusing the routes I take). I've been skating the 60mm dragons, I really appreciate the control they give me for powerslides, the width and softness also give me a lot of stability in cruising. At the same time, I regret getting them in 60mm as they're slightly too wide for stable rail stands on my street deck. They are also very slow, no matter the bearings. The seismic axons seem like an interesting alternative but it I do appreciate the slide-ability of the dragons formula, and 55mm is quite small for what I'm used to. Is it worth getting over these characteristics and working with a new wheel? Is there a better alternative with these qualities? I'm from Australia, so shipping will be a pain to pay for as well.. so hopefully I buy the right product. Any tips would be helpful!
I think we're in a very similar boat.
Everything you've said matches with my experience of the Clouds, Formula Fours, and Dragons (and you're also the only other person I've met who recognises how weirdly slow that urethane is!). And - genuinely - I've not found a single better wheel than the 95a Axon for all-round use.
There are, of course, a couple of caveats.
First, the 95a Axons are much "stickier" than the Dragons are - but then, so is everything. They're not as gummy as the clouds are, but if you're not used to a 95a urethane, you might find it a bit weird to get them sideways at first. However, when I'm going fast across town or around a skatepark, it's nice knowing they're not going to suddenly lose traction in a hard carve like the Dragons do.
Second, the Axons are wiiiiiiiide. The 58mm Nano Cubics give you 2.45mm of urethane past the axle nut; the Axons give you 5.85mm of urethane past the nut. That's a lot of extra width, and I generally recommend you look for a truck with an axle length 0.35-0.4" shorter than the intended width of your deck to accommodate this.
If you can get past those two "issues", then honestly, you'll probably love the Axons. I'm not sure who's carrying them in Australia - you should contact Flatlandia (flatlandia.org/shop/), as I'm sure they'll know where to go. Alternatively, I can ship them from Offset (offsetskatesupply.co.uk/product/seismic-axon/), and that might work out cheaper than getting them directly from Seismic in the US (seismicskate.com/product/55mm-axon-wheels/).
Thanks! It's hard finding information about this online, and frustrating forking out money and time on equipment without experience. I'll take you up on that. I'll order the 95a's at some point through offset skate supply. It's a shame, they're new trucks and you're definitely right about the dimensions working with a freestyle setup. Another opportunity to look into skate equipment!
@@taylaknott I can understand that. One of the reasons I started Offset (aside from making hard-to-find product more accessible) was the fact that skate shops and brands generally don't provide anything like enough information - and even if they do, there's no guarantee they'll get it right. For instance, Ace Trucks STILL say the Ace 11 has a 7.0" axle, and major skate shops are still regurgitating that without question.
(They actually have a 7.25" axle. Pretty big difference.)
Similarly, I'm thinking of bring Venom bushings in at Offset, and even the distributor doesn't have the physical dimensions of the bushings on file. How unhelpful is that? Bushing sizes vary wildly, and making sure you've got the right ones for your trucks is nigh-impossible at 99% of skate shops. It's a joke.
Exactly! I appreciated the reliable measurement chart on the offset website when I was considering buying a new set of Aces. Absurd that it isn't the standard broadcasted chart. I ended up going with film trucks from your review, I'll write a review of my own once they've arrived. Thanks for your help!
@@taylaknott ah, glad to hear someone else has jumped on some Films! I absolutely love those things and it seemed for a long time like people were passing over them just because they were some weird new Euro upstart, but they're so good. I love the feel of carving around on a set of Films - they're such a good truck.
Had achilles tendinitis as well... been doing some natural movement training and still skating. It has pretty much went away.
The problem with any sort of tendon or ligament issue is how easy it is to "relapse" in the healing process; I had an issue with a different ligament in my ankle in 2015 or 2016, and for a *year* it would be agony every time I stepped up a curb weirdly. It drove me nuts, so I'm trying to take it easy with this one.
@@FreestyleTricktips blessings my friend! Get better
He's alive
....barely.
I remember when i used to have ricta core wheels, they were notorious for having the bearings being impossible to take out. is that not the same case for these?
Generally, it's the opposite: "natural" or uncored wheels, due to the imperfections caused by pouring urethane, can be really difficult to get the bearings in or out of. And while I've not used Rictas since the mid-2000s, I've never once struggled with bearing fitment in a cored Seismic wheel.
Damn bro where you been?
...someone didn't watch to the end, I see.
Do they have any 90a wheels? For street skating since a dude said their wheels have dense urethane? So I’m thinking it slides well even being soft? Dunno if I’m wrong or right, but hopefully someone understands what I’m looking for and can direct a brotha
Funny, I was literally talking to Seismic about this not long ago.
Apparently the issue with wheels in the low-90s is that it's a tough urethane to work; most harder wheels are cast at larger sizes and machined down (which is why you usually get those "grooves" on the wheel when they're brand new). Low-90 durometers are tough to lathe and need to be frozen first. That's why you typically get a big gap between the upper 80s (say 88a) and the 95a and up durometers.
The best "small and soft" option from Seismic is probably the Oscar - they intended it as a "filmer wheel" (hence the name) and is a fair bit softer than 90a, but should still work: seismicskate.com/product/54mm-57mm-oscar-wheels/
As far as "slideability"... that's going to depend on the wheel formula, and usually, there's a tradeoff. Powell's Dragons and Seismic's Elixir are both geared towards sliding, and achieve this through the use of a chemical additive to the urethane, but as a result of prioritising slideability, they're also notably slower than the same wheel at the same durometer with a different formula.
Seismic's Defcon (the formula used in the Oscars) is designed for speed, and loses some grip compared to their other formulas, but is nothing like as slick as the Dragons or Elixir. I think it's a good middle ground; I'd rather go fast and force a slide than be forced to go slowly and have something slide when I'm not expecting it!
Thanks, wish they made them in like 57 mm
Why 57mm, exactly? I'd be wary of wheel bite at that sort of size (especially running the 95a ones).
@@FreestyleTricktips I ride oldschool 10x30 boards with risers but these would be sick to try haha so not necessarily 57mm but maybe something close
"mandatory stationary for the Instagram kids" 🤣😂🤣
Gotta give them *something* to relate to.