9:39 J. K. Rowling didn't come up with the phrase about 'no questions - no lies'. It is a popular phrase first used 200 years prior to the Harry Potter series in a play by Oliver Goldsmith, and again borrowed in Charles Dickens' "Great Expectations" in the 1860s. Many people have used it in casual conversations over the last century or more. It's a fairly common expression.
The order of the Phoenix was so sad towards the end. The moment that hit hard was where Harry doesnt want to be himself anymore, he didn’t want to be human - the moment where he lets all his anger and sadness out in Dumbeldore’s office. As someone living with depression, I truly felt him there.
Snape also didn't kill anyone....like all the other high ranking death eaters. he's definitely more awful in the books though. flip side of your statement, doing something terrible doesn't necessarily make one a bad person.
@@Nintendoman851 actually we have no idea what Snape did between joining Voldemort and switching sides. We only know that he didn't kill anyone after that.
@@toodlescae that’s true. I just like to think he didn’t kill anyone…but he definitely silently stood by while people were murdered, just because he was so high in Tom’s ranks.
Same here! :D I re-read the books, re-listen the audio books, and re-watch the 8 movies on and on ever since the first time I read, listened to and watched them all. I am now 61 too, almost 62, and... I think I will always keep doing so, as long as I am able to!
I read them as an adult, and I have never stopped reading them. I think the readers age is bound to add a different perspective. I appreciate the complex characters, and their occasional lack of arcs and redeeming qualities. It makes it all the more relatable- but for the magic of course!
I re-read Harry Potter last year and I have to tell you that while I didn't like the books that much the first time (Mind you I didn't read them as a kid. I read them post high-school) I feel like I found myself relating to Harry and his World much more now than ever considering the political madness that's happening in real-time, the whole frustration of being 'just a kid' in world that seems to be 'going to hell' and nobody listens to you, witch was made even more so with fact that I studied actual magic [books] and had interacted with real New-Age people online. No I didn't become an Occultist like people say, but with knowing my real-time experience and my personal sassy attitude towards it I felt more like Harry than I ever did watching the films growing up. I agree with you on Snape. It's like with people loving Hades. Just cause you did the one good thing, in the form of your relationship with that innocent girl/woman that doesn't technically make you any less of an tyrant. Still Potter is a 1'000 fold better than Scarlet St. Clair's books! (Barfs.)
I re-read OoTP quite recently and omg!!! yes! I was feeling the same things! i cant believe the popular opinion is that harry is annoying in this book, when it is actually everyone around him that ticks me off. You are so right about harry and others being reprimanded for the littlest hints of nastiness. I do not like how they are treated when they attack Malfoy at all. Similarly how Hermione is just constantly on Harry's case and Sirius' too. school being unfair is completely possible and realistic. hermione being set on her views is also very realistic to her character but what i really disliked is how much the narrative tries to show these behaviors as right and ideal. you are supposed to be on hermiones side and she is right in the end and i found that really frustrating this time around because hermione's lack of tact is glossed over, even dumbledore is telling us she is right (just after sirius dies??). In comparison, when hermione doesnt show empathy in PoA, she faces consequences and has proper cahracter growth. I feel like jkr undid some of her arc to use her as a plot device, which is unfortunate. not to mention, Snape is framed differently too starting here. overall this book is just very unfair
Yeah! like why would she be with him after her family is gone. People like to romanticize Snape as some lovey dovey tragic hero but he is not! He was a marked death eater for crying out loud! Read Snape's first Dark Arts class lesson and then you will see that Lily would never be with a person who thought like that. Not to mention bulling war orphans like Neville and Harry and the muggleborns. So messed up man. Marauders were not bulling 11 year olds when they grew up and this man lived twice their age!
I think they realised, when making the movies, that Snape needed to be less of a horrible person to be properly redeemed - in the movies he never does anything too despicable.
Snape only killed Dumbledore on his request, to protect Draco. We don't know if he killed anyone else since he became a double agent (was it after Harry's parents died?) He's not "REDEEMED" since that's not the point. You can't be "redeemed." That's not the point of his actions, regardless of whether it motivates him or he subconsciously or consciously yearns for that. He's just choosing to do good now. He was a cruel little bully to a kid but also fought protecting him later on, and anyway that'd put him on par with plenty of non-murderer teachers, I'd at least be able to hang out with him IMO I've sucked pretty bad before too although never been a death eater
While I haven't read the Harry Potter books yet, I have grown up watching the movies with my parents. I am deeply disappointed with the person J.K. Rowling has become, but seeing your excitement about the written series successfully convinced me that I absolutely should acquaint myself with it if I ever see it at a 2nd hand bookstore or an eBay-like site. I'm really looking forward to the joy that encountering such an opportunity will bring me when it eventually happens 😄
Yes let us condemn a talented author for her opinions and exercising free speech. How horrifying to think there are only two sexes. The only reason you're "deeply disappointed with the person J.K. Rowling has become" is because the militant trans-rights community bullies and belittles anyone who doesn't conform to their world view.
The point Snape became irredeemable to me was when he insults Hermione's teeth in Goblet of Fire. That is not, as someone once said to me, a "big deal" moment. It's a gut punch to a teenager's self esteem, when these teachers are supposed to be role models- not bullies! I don't care what good deeds he may have done (always selfishly) - he's just a horrible person, and I truly don't understand why some people defend him.
I think there are some works in which the premise is the best thing about them. The Wizarding World, and particularly Hogwarts, is a fictional world which is more enthralling than the actual canon stories set in it. That makes it very compatible with fanfic. Phillip Pullman's 'His Dark Materials' trilogy is the same way. The first two books are good, the last one is... unsatisfying. But the daemons are a fascinating concept which have inspired a lot of independent fanfic. There are far more works tagged "Alternate Universe -- Daemons' set in other fandoms than there are 'His Dark Materials' fanfics. That's just how it is sometimes.
Yes I really agree sometimes it’s the world that really makes it. I think a story is often strong in character, plot or world and it is only those super rare ones that are strong in all of them. When I was younger I think I was more connected to both the characters and plot in Harry Potter than I am now. Probably because I was coming of age at the time. But it was always the world that was its strongest asset. I’ve yet to read his dark material’s, is it worth adding to my list?
@@moniquejayrobinson I'm not sure. I myself think the daemons were the best things in it. I really enjoyed the first book, but I barely recall the second book. I think it was okay, or at least not actively disappointing. The third book did such a hard left on Lyra's characterization that I was annoyed. The series seemed to turn into a semi-Christian allegory. Don't get me wrong; I thought the afterlife was better than in Christian canon. But I feel like I got Jesus juked by the series. I often enjoy 'Alternate Universe- Daemons' fanfic set in other fandoms, but all you need to know about daemons to understand such stories can be learned on the 'His Dark Materials' fandom wiki page on daemons. If you're okay with Christian allegories you might like it. I would like to note that while searching the fandom wiki to make sure you could find enough daemon info to enjoy the AU fanfic without reading the books, I discovered that Phillip Pullman has written more books set in the series. So I need to clarify that my opinion is based on the original trilogy only, and later books may have made significant changes to the canon. Make of that what you will. 😉
@@astrinymris9953 I'm not sure 'Christian allegory' is really the correct term for a series which Pullman himself has described as an atheist/agnostic response to CS Lewis's Christian allegory. And to be fair, the series was pretty obviously going to be a modern re-interpretation of John Milton's Paradise Lost from the opening quotation onwards. Although I accept that most kids when they pick up the books for the first time aren't exactly versed in their Milton, so I can see why it might throw them for a loop as the series became increasingly theological.
I disagree strongly. Why are other fantasy series so boring if it's the premise alone that sells the story? Why did HP sell sixhundred MILLION copies, surpassing even Lord of the Rings at only 150 million? Because of the execution. The books are dynamic mysteries with compelling characters, and that's why kids read them over and over and over. How many views did your fanfiction get, now that you are a boring adult who forgot why you enjoyed reading HP?
6:08 Snivilous’ rage at the children when in the shack, and his emotional immaturity and selfishness … I was like “This is the example to shut down all those who luv Alan Rickman” … sounds like the actor was the mentor the character never was
I just wanted to say that this video was recommended to me today by the RUclips algorithm, because... There's a great Harry Potter "deep dive" podcast now, available on few different platforms (as far as I know) and also here on RUclips (where I personally watch it every Sunday), called "Through the Griffin Door". It's created by Super Carlin Brothers, who are well known among all (or well, among most) of the English-speaking Potterheads out there, because they've been discussing all things connected to Harry Potter books and movies for YEARS now (on their main channel). They are real and unquestionable EXPERTS in spotting and connecting all those hidden, tiny little details, and then "connecting the dots", explaining the previously unexplained things and crafting their own, fascinating and highly probable and believable NEW theories, set in the already well-known HP world. In their newest podcast ("Through the Griffin Door) they go REALLY DEEP into the whole Harry Potter saga by discussing each and every chapter of it, one by one, book by book. Each new episode of the podcast is always released on Sunday (with just one or two exceptions so far, released a day later or so) - so it's like a weekly "Harry Potter Book Club" on RUclips (and also on few other platforms, as mentioned above). They've already discussed almost 2 whole first HP books this way! And today, (just before coming here) - I've seen their NEWEST podcast episode, discussing the penultimate (so almost the last one) chapter of the "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets". Now, as to THIS video that I'm commenting here - let me just say that I COMPLETELY DISAGREE with you, Monique, when it comes to "judging" my ABSOLUTE FAVOURITE CHARACTER, which has always been, and shall always be PROFESSOR Severus Snape... ;) And I admit that I was also a bit disappointed that you DIDN'T feel as much "magic" while reading the books for the second time, compared to your first, fresh, spontaneous reactions to them in your childhood. BUT... I still feel that your genuine love for the series really SHINES THROUGH in this video, even in your not-so-enthusiastic words... So I thought that perhaps you might still be interested in how other people (literally hundreds and thousands of them, all over the world) interact with those stories NOW, even if - just like both Super Carlin Brothers (and for example me, myself) - they are probably TWICE older than you (or perhaps even older than that). As for me - I first read the books (and I saw at least the first few movies) when I was 26-27 years old, so I was already very much adult, and probably older (?) than you are right now, (or perhaps you just look very young, at least in this video - I haven't seen any other of your videos at the moment of writing this post). And my first encounter with Harry Potter was some 15 years ago... ;) But as much as I loved the story THEN - it is only NOW, when I re-read the stories for the (I'm not sure which exactly) 4th (?) time, that I can appreciate the UNBELIEVABLE, truly TITANIC work that went into the whole worldbuilidng there, and into making ABSOLUTELY SURE, that all those tiniest little dots are there for us, ATTENTIVE readers, to connect... And I personally think that it's just UTTERLY AMAZING that we can really see MORE AND MORE of those curious little things, with each re-reading of the story... But it is only by watching such in-depth reactions to the stories as those posted by, (for example, and among some others), the Super Carlin Brothers, that I'm able to notice and appreciate EVEN MORE of those curious, hidden, little things, than I've ever properly seen and admired before, on my own... So I HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend their weekly Harry Potter Book Club, aka their podcast "Through the Griffin Door" (as well as great many of their other, HP theory-crafting, separate videos) to any and every true HP fan out there! I hope you will give this podcast a try, there is a HUGE comment section, discussing ALL SORTS of things under every episode of "Through the Griffin Door" released on RUclips, and I have to say that some of the comments made by the viewers are as amazing, as eye-opening and as mind-blowing as the content of the podcast itself! :) Just a little word of warning though, for any possible newcomers to the whole magical world of Harry Potter series, who might ever accidentaly read my comment here - "Through the Griffin Door" podcast (and many other of Super Carlin Brothers HP-focused videos) are suitable ONLY for those people who have already read ALL of the books and who have already seen ALL of the movies. So please be aware, that in all of their videos they just JUMP back-and-forth between ALL the books and/or movies, exactly to show all the possible, probable and believable little CONNECTIONS between many different little details: hidden motives, seemingly "unimportant" situations and events, certain complicated and long-term plans (prepared by some extra cautious and thoughtful characters) etc. They often focus precisely on all those tiny little details which easily go unnoticed by the avarage reader, but which, as Super Carlin brothers argue, were perhaps "set in motion" WAY SOONER than we actually officially learn about them while reading the whole story for the FIRST time - etc.,etc., etc. So even if they MAINLY focus on just ONE single chapter of ONE of the books per week, (in their podcast) - they still expect their viewers/listeners to already KNOW what exactly they're talking about, if they suddenly refer to something which happens in a completely different chapter, or even in a completely different book. In other words - their podcast is full of HUGE "spoilers", therefore it's absolutely NOT suitable for any newcomers AT ALL... But the long-established HP fans should be simply DELIGHTED to dive into the story again, and to go DEEPER THAN EVER! :) There are already plenty of episodes (each of them about an hour long, or even longer!) avalaible here on RUclips right now, discussing the first two books, and a new episode appears every Sunday (as mentioned above). So... I'll just say it once again - PLEASE give this podcast a try, it's REALLY worth it, and you might still be AMAZED how much you DO enjoy all those stories, even while reading them for the THIRD or FOURTH time...! ;) Anyway - all the best to you, Monique and to all other Potterheads out there! :) And I will go and rewatch the "Crimes of Grinwelwald" now (as I've already rewatched the "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" yesterday). Cheers! - from a certain friendly Ravenclaw, who always loves to learn something new, even about the "already known" things ;) * * * EDIT: typos
@@colbauer1426 Oh no, I made sure that it was SHORTER than the video itself - I was doing my best to be BRIEF :P But I also wanted to give the Super Carlin Brothers' podcast a properly ENTHUSIASTIC and EXTENSIVE review, to encourage you (and hopefully as many other HP fans as possible here) to give it a try! ;) I honestly believe that some truly DELICIOUS DETAILS of those stories are STILL hidden from the eyes of most one-time readers (or even from the eyes of most one-time RE-readers), and it is only while going through each and every chapter of the books SLOWLY and in analysing and interpeting them METICULOUSLY that the whole inner "landscape" or the masterfully created "architecture" of those stories is properly discovered... I absolutely DON'T believe in any TRUE value of "quick reading", because WAYYY too many things are completely LOST that way - so I personally like to SAVOUR the books SLOWLY, paying proper attention to EVERY LITTLE THING... And I could go on and on like that, so I better stop before it's to late, and before I write another spontaneous "essay". ;) ________________________________________________ I will simply add just a few more things before I go: I'm NOT affiliated/associated with any of the (multiple) SCB channels, by the way - if that wasn't clear enough from my original comment ;) They're from the USA, where they will soon go on a TOUR with their podcast, and they will film some of the newest episodes LIVE, while talking to the public and answering some of their questions! (I mean - how COOL is that?!) But unfortunatelly, I can't attend any of those meetings, because I live in Europe, so I will just watch them on RUclips, as usual :) And even though I think that Super Carlin Brothers go deeper than anyone else (at least at the moment) into the whole intricate threads of HP lore - there are also some other channels dealing with the same or simmilar subjects that I also like to watch, (at least from time to time), such as: - Harry Potter Folklore (I belive that the host is Irish) - Movie Flame (who is also American, just like the SCB guys) - some of the Seamus Gorman earlier videos, when he was mostly focusing on HP (he's definitely British, and English to be precise, if I remember well). But once in a while RUclips recommends some OTHER content creators to me here, including some of the smaller and (currently) still less known channels, (which I like to check out from time to time, for a bit of a FRESH approach) so that's how I stumbled upon your channel too ;) Anyway, I really don't want to make this comment even longer than the original one, so I will see myself out now. But yeah, RAVENCLAW, and PROUD! :D * * * EDIT: spelling
Thank you for such detailed comments. 💕 my brother listens to the podcast and has been bugging me to as well. I will start it soon hopefully. He loved Potterless as well. I find it beautiful how much has been built around the series. It makes it such a fun fandom to be a part of. My love of Harry Potter remains very strong and I think it always will. It was just very interesting to see how what I love about the series has changed and evolved over time
I'm a Gryffindor but also I've been the leader of many clans, guilds, and communities, and find myself like Helga Hufflepuff. I've even been top in the world in multiple games, and on multiple platforms. My favorite and best example of this was my guild on World of Warcraft. We had people of every walk of life, and usually were the ones who took in the people who were not wanted or kicked out of other guilds. I wanted a place that EVERYONE would be accepted and could make it their home, and we did. Eventually becoming one of the top guilds on that server. I find now(33yrs old) that I would have fit in at all the houses at some point in my life. In my younger years I would have definitely been a Slytherin, although I chose Gryffindor like Harry did. Later on I had a thirst for knowledge and understanding that I think would have made me a perfect Ravenclaw.
As someone who has written 28 years of hogwarts fanfictions ,, in 2004 when i reset again ,, for the 2011 ,, i went back to hourly journal,,25,555 posts,, i read no books & kept in character,, but read them again in 2018...as the fandom went full digital.. to now as Hogwarts graduation,, i wrote real pen & paper journals,,.. lol.. now its a tv series i will feel so different ,, i guess in 2031 ... its going to be like wow 2037,, 40 years of Hogwarts ,, how ..when what.. ,,
Pausing to comment that as an American dealing with MAGA madness in politics, the fact that Snape does feel guilt is a point in his favor, because it shows that he does have a conscience. He is, as you say, absolutely awful for the way he verbally abuses the students in his charge, and should never have been allowed to be a teacher. (And to be fair, he didn't want to be one in the first place. It was just that Dumbledore had psychological and possibly legal power over Snape, and needed a potions teacher after Slughorn ducked out.) Mind you, I also absolutely hate the Marauders for the way they bullied, humiliated, and sexually assaulted Snape. I don't think Lily should have married either James Potter or Severus Snape, or anyone straight out of high school for that matter. Not hatin'; just sayin'.
Yeah Snape was probably pushed to teach by Dumbledore and he definitely comes across as a teacher who just gets their subject and can’t really understand how others view things differently. And I think that makes him feel as though he is superior. I have read too much marauder inspired stories to be able to say what is canon and what others have just made up. But I think that Lily chose James because he was a good person. I always see, Snape was backed up by his death eater friends who targeted Hogwarts students especially the Marauders and even Lily. This being what lead to the breakdown of friendship between Lily and Snape as to her just standing along side them was just as bad as casting the spell. James definitely bullied Snape but Snape also invented a slicing curse which I fully believe he would have used to maim and possible even kill James if given any opportunity. James saves Snape not just because he loves Remus and wouldn’t want that for him but because no matter his personal feelings towards Snape, he would never let anyone die if there was anything at all he could do to help them. And I think this is what makes Snape hate him even more because he would not have risked his life to save James he would have probably been quite happy that James had died and would have thought he deserved it. I think that the core of James never changes he. And that the bullying of Snape is only a little bit out of jealously but mostly as Snape reflects who himself or Sirius could have been, and someone who has a choice to not believe in blood supremacy but does anyway because it benefits himself. The bullying is in no way justified and that is why Lily tears him down constantly and never looks his way until he sees that for himself. But I truly love Lily and James with all my heart so I am very biased.
Haha yess I’m not sure if I misplaced the footage or just didn’t pick up the camera until after the order of the Pheonix. I think the two just kind of blended in my mind as I was frustrated with the characters throughout both.
9:39 J. K. Rowling didn't come up with the phrase about 'no questions - no lies'. It is a popular phrase first used 200 years prior to the Harry Potter series in a play by Oliver Goldsmith, and again borrowed in Charles Dickens' "Great Expectations" in the 1860s. Many people have used it in casual conversations over the last century or more. It's a fairly common expression.
Yeah it’s a general phase but it’s one of my favourites in the book. I think it fits perfectly
The order of the Phoenix was so sad towards the end. The moment that hit hard was where Harry doesnt want to be himself anymore, he didn’t want to be human - the moment where he lets all his anger and sadness out in Dumbeldore’s office. As someone living with depression, I truly felt him there.
Agree about Snape. Doing something brave or heroic does not make you a good person.
No, but it does make for an interesting character.
Snape also didn't kill anyone....like all the other high ranking death eaters. he's definitely more awful in the books though.
flip side of your statement, doing something terrible doesn't necessarily make one a bad person.
@@Nintendoman851 actually we have no idea what Snape did between joining Voldemort and switching sides. We only know that he didn't kill anyone after that.
@@toodlescae that’s true. I just like to think he didn’t kill anyone…but he definitely silently stood by while people were murdered, just because he was so high in Tom’s ranks.
@@Nintendoman851 yup
I reread them every year > 1 times have since I first read them, when I was 38 or was it 41 anyway 61 now and still rereading, love them
Same here! :D
I re-read the books, re-listen the audio books, and re-watch the 8 movies on and on ever since the first time I read, listened to and watched them all.
I am now 61 too, almost 62, and... I think I will always keep doing so, as long as I am able to!
@@Keyboardje yes me too so long as I can
I read them as an adult, and I have never stopped reading them. I think the readers age is bound to add a different perspective. I appreciate the complex characters, and their occasional lack of arcs and redeeming qualities. It makes it all the more relatable- but for the magic of course!
I re-read Harry Potter last year and I have to tell you that while I didn't like the books that much the first time (Mind you I didn't read them as a kid. I read them post high-school)
I feel like I found myself relating to Harry and his World much more now than ever considering the political madness that's happening in real-time, the whole frustration of being
'just a kid' in world that seems to be 'going to hell' and nobody listens to you, witch was made even more so with fact that I studied actual magic [books] and had interacted
with real New-Age people online. No I didn't become an Occultist like people say, but with knowing my real-time experience and my personal sassy attitude towards it I felt
more like Harry than I ever did watching the films growing up. I agree with you on Snape. It's like with people loving Hades. Just cause you did the one good thing, in the form of
your relationship with that innocent girl/woman that doesn't technically make you any less of an tyrant. Still Potter is a 1'000 fold better than Scarlet St. Clair's books! (Barfs.)
Fully agree about Snape. I don't know why people shine on him. Your criticism is spot on.
"Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies" isn't original to HP. That's an old expression from nursery rhymes as far back as the 1930's.
Its right up there with "dead men tell no tales."
I re-read OoTP quite recently and omg!!! yes! I was feeling the same things! i cant believe the popular opinion is that harry is annoying in this book, when it is actually everyone around him that ticks me off. You are so right about harry and others being reprimanded for the littlest hints of nastiness. I do not like how they are treated when they attack Malfoy at all. Similarly how Hermione is just constantly on Harry's case and Sirius' too. school being unfair is completely possible and realistic. hermione being set on her views is also very realistic to her character but what i really disliked is how much the narrative tries to show these behaviors as right and ideal. you are supposed to be on hermiones side and she is right in the end and i found that really frustrating this time around because hermione's lack of tact is glossed over, even dumbledore is telling us she is right (just after sirius dies??). In comparison, when hermione doesnt show empathy in PoA, she faces consequences and has proper cahracter growth. I feel like jkr undid some of her arc to use her as a plot device, which is unfortunate. not to mention, Snape is framed differently too starting here. overall this book is just very unfair
6:50 even if Snape succeed in saving Lily, she’ll know that he was the one who helped Voldemort killing her son and husband.
Yeah! like why would she be with him after her family is gone. People like to romanticize Snape as some lovey dovey tragic hero but he is not! He was a marked death eater for crying out loud! Read Snape's first Dark Arts class lesson and then you will see that Lily would never be with a person who thought like that. Not to mention bulling war orphans like Neville and Harry and the muggleborns. So messed up man. Marauders were not bulling 11 year olds when they grew up and this man lived twice their age!
@@galahadgreenleaf5754 I know all of that, I said what I said as a opinion
I think they realised, when making the movies, that Snape needed to be less of a horrible person to be properly redeemed - in the movies he never does anything too despicable.
Snape only killed Dumbledore on his request, to protect Draco. We don't know if he killed anyone else since he became a double agent (was it after Harry's parents died?) He's not "REDEEMED" since that's not the point. You can't be "redeemed." That's not the point of his actions, regardless of whether it motivates him or he subconsciously or consciously yearns for that. He's just choosing to do good now. He was a cruel little bully to a kid but also fought protecting him later on, and anyway that'd put him on par with plenty of non-murderer teachers, I'd at least be able to hang out with him IMO I've sucked pretty bad before too although never been a death eater
While I haven't read the Harry Potter books yet, I have grown up watching the movies with my parents. I am deeply disappointed with the person J.K. Rowling has become, but seeing your excitement about the written series successfully convinced me that I absolutely should acquaint myself with it if I ever see it at a 2nd hand bookstore or an eBay-like site. I'm really looking forward to the joy that encountering such an opportunity will bring me when it eventually happens 😄
Yes let us condemn a talented author for her opinions and exercising free speech. How horrifying to think there are only two sexes. The only reason you're "deeply disappointed with the person J.K. Rowling has become" is because the militant trans-rights community bullies and belittles anyone who doesn't conform to their world view.
Very nice reread vlog, thanks for doing it.
Even the good deeds accomplished by Snape were motivated by selfishness
The point Snape became irredeemable to me was when he insults Hermione's teeth in Goblet of Fire. That is not, as someone once said to me, a "big deal" moment. It's a gut punch to a teenager's self esteem, when these teachers are supposed to be role models- not bullies! I don't care what good deeds he may have done (always selfishly) - he's just a horrible person, and I truly don't understand why some people defend him.
Because they love Alan Rickman and forget how horrible and petty Snape is in the books.
I think there are some works in which the premise is the best thing about them. The Wizarding World, and particularly Hogwarts, is a fictional world which is more enthralling than the actual canon stories set in it. That makes it very compatible with fanfic.
Phillip Pullman's 'His Dark Materials' trilogy is the same way. The first two books are good, the last one is... unsatisfying. But the daemons are a fascinating concept which have inspired a lot of independent fanfic. There are far more works tagged "Alternate Universe -- Daemons' set in other fandoms than there are 'His Dark Materials' fanfics. That's just how it is sometimes.
Yes I really agree sometimes it’s the world that really makes it. I think a story is often strong in character, plot or world and it is only those super rare ones that are strong in all of them. When I was younger I think I was more connected to both the characters and plot in Harry Potter than I am now. Probably because I was coming of age at the time. But it was always the world that was its strongest asset.
I’ve yet to read his dark material’s, is it worth adding to my list?
@@moniquejayrobinson I'm not sure. I myself think the daemons were the best things in it. I really enjoyed the first book, but I barely recall the second book. I think it was okay, or at least not actively disappointing. The third book did such a hard left on Lyra's characterization that I was annoyed. The series seemed to turn into a semi-Christian allegory. Don't get me wrong; I thought the afterlife was better than in Christian canon. But I feel like I got Jesus juked by the series.
I often enjoy 'Alternate Universe- Daemons' fanfic set in other fandoms, but all you need to know about daemons to understand such stories can be learned on the 'His Dark Materials' fandom wiki page on daemons. If you're okay with Christian allegories you might like it. I would like to note that while searching the fandom wiki to make sure you could find enough daemon info to enjoy the AU fanfic without reading the books, I discovered that Phillip Pullman has written more books set in the series. So I need to clarify that my opinion is based on the original trilogy only, and later books may have made significant changes to the canon. Make of that what you will. 😉
@@astrinymris9953 I'm not sure 'Christian allegory' is really the correct term for a series which Pullman himself has described as an atheist/agnostic response to CS Lewis's Christian allegory. And to be fair, the series was pretty obviously going to be a modern re-interpretation of John Milton's Paradise Lost from the opening quotation onwards.
Although I accept that most kids when they pick up the books for the first time aren't exactly versed in their Milton, so I can see why it might throw them for a loop as the series became increasingly theological.
I disagree strongly. Why are other fantasy series so boring if it's the premise alone that sells the story? Why did HP sell sixhundred MILLION copies, surpassing even Lord of the Rings at only 150 million? Because of the execution. The books are dynamic mysteries with compelling characters, and that's why kids read them over and over and over. How many views did your fanfiction get, now that you are a boring adult who forgot why you enjoyed reading HP?
6:08 Snivilous’ rage at the children when in the shack, and his emotional immaturity and selfishness … I was like “This is the example to shut down all those who luv Alan Rickman” … sounds like the actor was the mentor the character never was
I just wanted to say that this video was recommended to me today by the RUclips algorithm, because... There's a great Harry Potter "deep dive" podcast now, available on few different platforms (as far as I know) and also here on RUclips (where I personally watch it every Sunday), called "Through the Griffin Door".
It's created by Super Carlin Brothers, who are well known among all (or well, among most) of the English-speaking Potterheads out there, because they've been discussing all things connected to Harry Potter books and movies for YEARS now (on their main channel). They are real and unquestionable EXPERTS in spotting and connecting all those hidden, tiny little details, and then "connecting the dots", explaining the previously unexplained things and crafting their own, fascinating and highly probable and believable NEW theories, set in the already well-known HP world.
In their newest podcast ("Through the Griffin Door) they go REALLY DEEP into the whole Harry Potter saga by discussing each and every chapter of it, one by one, book by book. Each new episode of the podcast is always released on Sunday (with just one or two exceptions so far, released a day later or so) - so it's like a weekly "Harry Potter Book Club" on RUclips (and also on few other platforms, as mentioned above).
They've already discussed almost 2 whole first HP books this way! And today, (just before coming here) - I've seen their NEWEST podcast episode, discussing the penultimate (so almost the last one) chapter of the "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets".
Now, as to THIS video that I'm commenting here - let me just say that I COMPLETELY DISAGREE with you, Monique, when it comes to "judging" my ABSOLUTE FAVOURITE CHARACTER, which has always been, and shall always be PROFESSOR Severus Snape... ;) And I admit that I was also a bit disappointed that you DIDN'T feel as much "magic" while reading the books for the second time, compared to your first, fresh, spontaneous reactions to them in your childhood. BUT... I still feel that your genuine love for the series really SHINES THROUGH in this video, even in your not-so-enthusiastic words... So I thought that perhaps you might still be interested in how other people (literally hundreds and thousands of them, all over the world) interact with those stories NOW, even if - just like both Super Carlin Brothers (and for example me, myself) - they are probably TWICE older than you (or perhaps even older than that).
As for me - I first read the books (and I saw at least the first few movies) when I was 26-27 years old, so I was already very much adult, and probably older (?) than you are right now, (or perhaps you just look very young, at least in this video - I haven't seen any other of your videos at the moment of writing this post). And my first encounter with Harry Potter was some 15 years ago... ;) But as much as I loved the story THEN - it is only NOW, when I re-read the stories for the (I'm not sure which exactly) 4th (?) time, that I can appreciate the UNBELIEVABLE, truly TITANIC work that went into the whole worldbuilidng there, and into making ABSOLUTELY SURE, that all those tiniest little dots are there for us, ATTENTIVE readers, to connect... And I personally think that it's just UTTERLY AMAZING that we can really see MORE AND MORE of those curious little things, with each re-reading of the story...
But it is only by watching such in-depth reactions to the stories as those posted by, (for example, and among some others), the Super Carlin Brothers, that I'm able to notice and appreciate EVEN MORE of those curious, hidden, little things, than I've ever properly seen and admired before, on my own... So I HIGHLY, HIGHLY recommend their weekly Harry Potter Book Club, aka their podcast "Through the Griffin Door" (as well as great many of their other, HP theory-crafting, separate videos) to any and every true HP fan out there!
I hope you will give this podcast a try, there is a HUGE comment section, discussing ALL SORTS of things under every episode of "Through the Griffin Door" released on RUclips, and I have to say that some of the comments made by the viewers are as amazing, as eye-opening and as mind-blowing as the content of the podcast itself! :)
Just a little word of warning though, for any possible newcomers to the whole magical world of Harry Potter series, who might ever accidentaly read my comment here - "Through the Griffin Door" podcast (and many other of Super Carlin Brothers HP-focused videos) are suitable ONLY for those people who have already read ALL of the books and who have already seen ALL of the movies. So please be aware, that in all of their videos they just JUMP back-and-forth between ALL the books and/or movies, exactly to show all the possible, probable and believable little CONNECTIONS between many different little details: hidden motives, seemingly "unimportant" situations and events, certain complicated and long-term plans (prepared by some extra cautious and thoughtful characters) etc. They often focus precisely on all those tiny little details which easily go unnoticed by the avarage reader, but which, as Super Carlin brothers argue, were perhaps "set in motion" WAY SOONER than we actually officially learn about them while reading the whole story for the FIRST time - etc.,etc., etc.
So even if they MAINLY focus on just ONE single chapter of ONE of the books per week, (in their podcast) - they still expect their viewers/listeners to already KNOW what exactly they're talking about, if they suddenly refer to something which happens in a completely different chapter, or even in a completely different book. In other words - their podcast is full of HUGE "spoilers", therefore it's absolutely NOT suitable for any newcomers AT ALL...
But the long-established HP fans should be simply DELIGHTED to dive into the story again, and to go DEEPER THAN EVER! :)
There are already plenty of episodes (each of them about an hour long, or even longer!) avalaible here on RUclips right now, discussing the first two books, and a new episode appears every Sunday (as mentioned above). So... I'll just say it once again - PLEASE give this podcast a try, it's REALLY worth it, and you might still be AMAZED how much you DO enjoy all those stories, even while reading them for the THIRD or FOURTH time...! ;)
Anyway - all the best to you, Monique and to all other Potterheads out there! :)
And I will go and rewatch the "Crimes of Grinwelwald" now (as I've already rewatched the "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" yesterday).
Cheers!
- from a certain friendly Ravenclaw,
who always loves to learn something new,
even about the "already known" things ;)
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Definitely a Ravenclaw 😅
You comment was nearly as long as this video is 😂
@@colbauer1426 Oh no, I made sure that it was SHORTER than the video itself - I was doing my best to be BRIEF :P
But I also wanted to give the Super Carlin Brothers' podcast a properly ENTHUSIASTIC and EXTENSIVE review, to encourage you (and hopefully as many other HP fans as possible here) to give it a try! ;)
I honestly believe that some truly DELICIOUS DETAILS of those stories are STILL hidden from the eyes of most one-time readers (or even from the eyes of most one-time RE-readers), and it is only while going through each and every chapter of the books SLOWLY and in analysing and interpeting them METICULOUSLY that the whole inner "landscape" or the masterfully created "architecture" of those stories is properly discovered... I absolutely DON'T believe in any TRUE value of "quick reading", because WAYYY too many things are completely LOST that way - so I personally like to SAVOUR the books SLOWLY, paying proper attention to EVERY LITTLE THING...
And I could go on and on like that, so I better stop before it's to late, and before I write another spontaneous "essay". ;)
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I will simply add just a few more things before I go:
I'm NOT affiliated/associated with any of the (multiple) SCB channels, by the way - if that wasn't clear enough from my original comment ;)
They're from the USA, where they will soon go on a TOUR with their podcast, and they will film some of the newest episodes LIVE, while talking to the public and answering some of their questions! (I mean - how COOL is that?!) But unfortunatelly, I can't attend any of those meetings, because I live in Europe, so I will just watch them on RUclips, as usual :)
And even though I think that Super Carlin Brothers go deeper than anyone else (at least at the moment) into the whole intricate threads of HP lore - there are also some other channels dealing with the same or simmilar subjects that I also like to watch, (at least from time to time), such as:
- Harry Potter Folklore (I belive that the host is Irish)
- Movie Flame (who is also American, just like the SCB guys)
- some of the Seamus Gorman earlier videos, when he was mostly focusing on HP (he's definitely British, and English to be precise, if I remember well).
But once in a while RUclips recommends some OTHER content creators to me here, including some of the smaller and (currently) still less known channels, (which I like to check out from time to time, for a bit of a FRESH approach) so that's how I stumbled upon your channel too ;)
Anyway, I really don't want to make this comment even longer than the original one, so I will see myself out now.
But yeah, RAVENCLAW, and PROUD!
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Thank you for such detailed comments. 💕 my brother listens to the podcast and has been bugging me to as well. I will start it soon hopefully. He loved Potterless as well. I find it beautiful how much has been built around the series. It makes it such a fun fandom to be a part of. My love of Harry Potter remains very strong and I think it always will. It was just very interesting to see how what I love about the series has changed and evolved over time
I can’t remember if I said in the video but Proud Hufflepuffer here 😋😋😋
I'm a Gryffindor but also I've been the leader of many clans, guilds, and communities, and find myself like Helga Hufflepuff. I've even been top in the world in multiple games, and on multiple platforms.
My favorite and best example of this was my guild on World of Warcraft. We had people of every walk of life, and usually were the ones who took in the people who were not wanted or kicked out of other guilds. I wanted a place that EVERYONE would be accepted and could make it their home, and we did. Eventually becoming one of the top guilds on that server.
I find now(33yrs old) that I would have fit in at all the houses at some point in my life. In my younger years I would have definitely been a Slytherin, although I chose Gryffindor like Harry did. Later on I had a thirst for knowledge and understanding that I think would have made me a perfect Ravenclaw.
Can't help you like Snape. He's not a good person, but he's so likeable and funny.
As someone who has written 28 years of hogwarts fanfictions ,, in 2004 when i reset again ,, for the 2011 ,, i went back to hourly journal,,25,555 posts,, i read no books & kept in character,, but read them again in 2018...as the fandom went full digital.. to now as Hogwarts graduation,, i wrote real pen & paper journals,,.. lol.. now its a tv series i will feel so different ,, i guess in 2031 ... its going to be like wow 2037,, 40 years of Hogwarts ,, how ..when what.. ,,
11:23 THIS!! Ugh makes me so mad
nice video!
Pausing to comment that as an American dealing with MAGA madness in politics, the fact that Snape does feel guilt is a point in his favor, because it shows that he does have a conscience. He is, as you say, absolutely awful for the way he verbally abuses the students in his charge, and should never have been allowed to be a teacher. (And to be fair, he didn't want to be one in the first place. It was just that Dumbledore had psychological and possibly legal power over Snape, and needed a potions teacher after Slughorn ducked out.)
Mind you, I also absolutely hate the Marauders for the way they bullied, humiliated, and sexually assaulted Snape. I don't think Lily should have married either James Potter or Severus Snape, or anyone straight out of high school for that matter. Not hatin'; just sayin'.
Yeah Snape was probably pushed to teach by Dumbledore and he definitely comes across as a teacher who just gets their subject and can’t really understand how others view things differently. And I think that makes him feel as though he is superior.
I have read too much marauder inspired stories to be able to say what is canon and what others have just made up. But I think that Lily chose James because he was a good person. I always see, Snape was backed up by his death eater friends who targeted Hogwarts students especially the Marauders and even Lily. This being what lead to the breakdown of friendship between Lily and Snape as to her just standing along side them was just as bad as casting the spell. James definitely bullied Snape but Snape also invented a slicing curse which I fully believe he would have used to maim and possible even kill James if given any opportunity. James saves Snape not just because he loves Remus and wouldn’t want that for him but because no matter his personal feelings towards Snape, he would never let anyone die if there was anything at all he could do to help them.
And I think this is what makes Snape hate him even more because he would not have risked his life to save James he would have probably been quite happy that James had died and would have thought he deserved it.
I think that the core of James never changes he. And that the bullying of Snape is only a little bit out of jealously but mostly as Snape reflects who himself or Sirius could have been, and someone who has a choice to not believe in blood supremacy but does anyway because it benefits himself.
The bullying is in no way justified and that is why Lily tears him down constantly and never looks his way until he sees that for himself.
But I truly love Lily and James with all my heart so I am very biased.
lmao trump living rent free in your brain "dealing with MAGA politics"
@@dilwindersingh-x7b Well, it is election year, and Trump just won't stfu and go away.
@@kenhollis6197 how many boxes of tissue are you going to go through when he wins
@@AverageCanadianStinky Typical maga comment. Yawn.
7 years 7 books hahaha
Hi
7 years? You barely look THAT old!
You forgot to review goblet of fire
Haha yess I’m not sure if I misplaced the footage or just didn’t pick up the camera until after the order of the Pheonix. I think the two just kind of blended in my mind as I was frustrated with the characters throughout both.
Okay thanks for the information I appreciate it.