I believe Azure Moon was planned to split into two routes, which would explain why some of the class would betray you. Might've been related to the scene where you can "choose" to take back the kingdom or rush the imperial capital, but get declined if you pick the latter.
That probably explains it. I did thought how it seem important to pick the decision, though it end up being a little anti-climactic when nothing really happened that much
I think it was at that point too. A lot of people who make analyses videos on the routes said that they also feel like this was the splitting point too. Mostly because the answer is as useless and all the answers you pick in Awakening 💔
@@kevandre yeah but Glenn's death is the catalyst for a lot of stuff that happens in the game.. During Dimitris memory you can hear and see a nlc knight saying help me. They could have easily taken Glenn for that just sayin
@@Asehhar from what Rodrigue and Dimitri said Glenn throwed away his life for Dimitri so I highly doubt that he would ask for help after doing that. He knew he would die.
A Felix looking to avenge his father is an interesting change, but I'm glad they cut his and Annette's betrayal because those two are usually among my best units and I adore them as characters.
@@DarkAdonisVyers That's my guess. You are provided with a decision that could've easily served as a "This decision will alter the storyline" choice, but instead your answer doesn't make any difference at all and you just go about the game. It's likely they may have had the intention of every route having diverging paths like Black Eagles, but it got cut due to either time or just a design perspective. As it stands Crimson Flower already seems rushed compared to the other 3.
@@ninjasuikai Verdant Wind isn't that better either. Claude was always showed as an inquisitive character, serving as the middle ground between Edel and Dimitri in the war between the will of god and of men. He, in general, always had the most "modern" values of the bunch, so many envisioned his as the secularisation route. After playing both VW and SS - SPOILER ALERT - - - I felt that they somewhat got Church and Cluade stories mixed up. Seiros madness would have been a great ending to a quest to discover the truth about the crests and the mythical weapons with a final confrontation between the last symbol of an obscurantist faith and the first ruler chosen by the united people of Fodlan. Instead we got an incessant push towards the Imperial capital just to be told at the end that there was a secret enemy all along. Claude last fight against the 12 unded champions and Nemesis would have made a great final fight for church route, which could have been an additional route unlockable after all the other 3.
Roberto Giovannini I disagree. Having there being a Rhea fight would have made it so he wasn’t so much of a neutral anymore. A nemesis fight in SS WOULD make sense, and would be like a historical event type thing, but I feel like the reason they made Rhea boss instead was because they were trying to show that Edelgard was right, in a way. Edelgard’s reason for the war is spread out across all of the storylines.
Honestly, I really hate the change they made to Byleth and Bernadetta's support. Regardless of which one is more true to the Japanese version, the original translation painted a much clearer picture of what Count Varley was trying to do to Bernadetta, highlighting the cruelty of it. The new translation on the other hand is extremely vague and feels like it lacks any context.
If you consider the difficulty of the subject to explain, I think it makes sense for her to mention it in a vague way. Then you've got the struggle of not wanting to make your parent look like a bad guy, because they're you're parent. They raised you.
@@VocaloidRoxs09 I doubt Bernadetta has much of a problem with making her dad look like a bad guy, especially since in other supports she's very open about all the things he did to her. She's even okay with him being exiled in a later chapter.
@@VocaloidRoxs09 I happen to be watching someone do a slow burn playthrough of the GD route, and she straight up approves of Count Varley being exiled, because she's scared that now that he's out of house arrest, he's going to come after her. Her support with Dorothea even shows she fears her father will just make her friends "disappear" if she gets close to them. Making her reasons for why she's so traumatized by her father vague makes her shut-in attitude make less sense and more like she's overreacting. Explaining what happened to her is a vital part of her story, and taking that away does her a disservice.
If it's vague and lacks context, it's because the original line was vague and lacked context. The localization made it a lot more directly grim than it was REALLY meant to be, and that's an unfortunate change because Japan's idea of what the phrase "a submissive wife" means is a bit different (and less overtly about sex) than the western ideas that come from those same words. So the "added context" you see in this line actually confuses things a little bit. Count Varley was cruel, but not specifically in the way the original English-translated line suggested. And there are plenty of other lines still in the game that tell you quite directly how much of a bastard Count Varley was.
@@rhettmitchell What? Felix already tends to be put into some very light weapons (Wo Dao+ if sticking with the swordmaster theme, and gauntlets if going brawler which are all very light) and his high strength already puts him past the point of being weight down by those weapons not long into the game. Now in Maddening for sure you'll get enemy units that the extra weight will slow him down enough to be significant but you could always just... equip a ring when near them? Aegis Shield is literally just free survivability. Especially in Hard where Felix will still double everything regardless.
That picture of Adult Sothis actually did appear briefly in the final game. In the movie scene called "Revenge" when all of the pictures flash at the end, you can see her for a second.
DarkAdonisVyers I think he means in the very beginning with the Seiros vs Nemesis cutscene. After that battle, there’s like a run through of what happened throughout history (it happens very fast) and in one of those pictures, you see that picture shown in this video of Sothis
Actually, Jeritza von Hrym is listed in the game. That’s the name he uses in Crimson Flower when he’s on your team. His birth name (which is never officially listed in the game) would be Emile von Bartels. We know his father was Baron Bartels, and since he was originally from Imperial nobility, he would have “von” in his last name (seeing as the Empire seems to follow German/Austrian naming customs). As far as characters with real names go, we still don’t know the real names of Yuri and Hapi.
Annette and Mercedes's betrayal dialogue in particular is so sad, like Mercie: "Annie please home!! I'll bake you some treats! :(" Annette: "yeah I did always love your sweets..... :((( .......anyway time to die"
I don't think Felix betrayed only because of his father's death because in the first line he sounds like he's confirming with Dimitri that his father is now dead, as though Felix had heard it second hand rather than having been there. So either Felix defected before that or he was missing during his father's death map and then defected.
Something to clarify; it was because the NDA first and foremost about why Chris was removed. The abuse allegations may have had an impact but that's speculation
Its believed that it was originally planned that when given the option of either storming Enbarr or reclaiming Fhirdiad, that a split route would be started and that Annette and Felix would defect if the wrong route was taken (its assumed that Enbarr is where they would defect but that obviously cant be proven without developer input). The reasons for why both defect arent necessarily clear either, but its assumed that Annette does it out of loyalty to her mother and homeland than a mad king. As for Felix, he does love his father. He just can't stand his undying loyalty to the king and his ideals regarding death and knightlyhood.
Also, it's really too bad those Group Activities were cut. I do like the Monastery segments but to an extent I do agree that it lacks variety and gets very repetitive. It could have benefited from having more activities to do to spice things up.
Oddly enough, we found out Chris Niosi originally played Male Byleth when the lords and both genders of Byleth were added to Fire Emblem Heroes (the mobile spinoff) through a data mine a couple days after the announcement trailer. Female Byleth and the lords were on the debut banner while Male Byleth was a free unit for those who bought 3H and linked their Nintendo accounts with FEH and 3H, Male Byleth then appeared on a “legendary banner” sometime later. Shortly after we found out who Male Byleth was played by, Niosi came out about his controversy, and then Nintendo stated shortly after the game was released Male Byleth’s VA would be updated. Sometime after the 3H banner dropped we got a mini trailer for Male Byleth properly introducing him into FEH, and that’s when we found out who his new VA was Zach Aguilar. Following that trailer Aguilar announced on Twitter he would be playing the role of Male Byleth.
Cornelia actually has her full name revealed in the game too. I forget which chapter and which routes exactly, but talking to Hanneman will have him not only reveal Cornelia's full name, but also give some brief background (she was a brilliant researcher back in Adrestia, but had left for Faerghus around the time Hanneman left for the Monastery)
I believe it's also revealed in the monastery library? Been awhile since I read the books in there, but im pretty sure there's one that details Cornelia's miracles, and also states her full name. Or im wrong, and completely misremembering, which is quite likely.
Ooooo I was hoping Yuri’s actual name would be revealed. Could it possibly be one of the names in that listed that was mentioned? Also it’s interesting that Kupala, one of the places that could be traded with, is mentioned by Balthus as his mother’s home town/country. Great video!
I saw something on Twitter from SerenesForest that talks about combined seals and classes. I assume that’s a similar thing to the composite classes mentioned in this video. Classes like Mortal Savant and Holy Knight were called Combined Classes in the North America artbook, while classes like Wyvern Lord were listed as Master Classes. They assumed that Combined Classes were scrapped in development and some classes were kept as Master Classes.
Great video! Something little that I haven’t seen people mention is how the minor crest iteration of the Aubin crest is called, Minor Crest of the Oban, seems like a simple name change
Damn. I'm glad I got to hear that Bernadetta support before they changed it. That detail is such a crucial part of explaining her situation and, in return, her character. Yes it's dark as hell, but it's important information and makes her more sympathetic.
It honestly really bothered me that they changed it. As someone who's been through similar things it sorta made me feel better and made me relate to her more, seeing it go made me pretty sad.
@@bernadettavarley Indeed. Its too bad that some people may not get to know the character as well. While it may be true that the line wasn't directly stated in the original Japanese translation, its pretty clearly implied that such an abusive past is what led her to become what she is.
Jett Lucas Hayes doesn’t silver snow do the exact same thing? Even then, if they were to implement the betrayal into the game, they should make him recruitable, especially since Dimitri goes through some growth post rodrigue
@@tigerking3297 Something kinda similar to how Kaze worked (with actual good story reasons)? I would be down too, though that map might be pretty rough if you heavily invested in Felix/Annette. I could see both leaving Dimitri after what he becomes, so it would be really neat to see that play out.
Yeah, but in Silver Snow, you’re given Seteth, Shamir (if you haven’t recruited her yet), Catherine and Cyril (and you keep Flayn). I think Cyril even got a buff to his stats cause he was an actual beast in my Silver Snow route.
I could imagine Annette leaving because of her uncle, but I can’t imagine Felix doing that. Especially knowing that cornelia is a traitor, and he didn’t believe in chivalry. The only reason I could see Felix doing that would be out of spite, and he wouldn’t do that.
3:41 just saying closer to the original doesn't always make it better. Imo adding submissive makes me feel even worse. He was training her to be a wife who neve questions and does everything that her husband tells her to do. Being a good wife and being a good submissive wife are entirely different
Honestly i think the betrayals were either going to be fully recruitable again like ashe or lorenz out of their routes or it was a cut route split likely cut because it would be even less fleshed out than the be ones.
5:58 Actually, this shot is used in the opening cutscene of the game during that ethereal warp through time transition between Seiros's battle with Nemesis and child Sothis's appearance. It's a pain in the ass to spot, but its there. Also, is it just me or is that shot kinda unsettling? Maybe it's because we don't see adult Sothis outside of the Mural depicting her along with The Immaculate One and the Four Saints, but its almost creepy.
I find it interesting that there are full names of characters hidden in the data, but only those who actually make a physical appearance in some form in the game. Aside from the fact that we didn't find out Claude's real name is Khalid until an interview, I kind of find it a little disappointing we may never know what the full names of characters like Glenn and Holst were. Those two in particular are mentioned frequently but never make an actual appearance (I know Glenn is dead by the point of the game, but he's not even seen in any flashbacks), and sometimes I do wonder what their full names are. I think Holst and Glenn definitely have middle names given they are (or were) members of noble bloodlines (though it's definitely not von for either of them since Kingdom nobility and House Goneril don't use von), and part of me wonders what their middle names are. It's something that I find interesting to speculate about.
Damn, Felix and Annette betraying you. That would have been so interesting, I kind of wish it happened, but at the same time, Felix and Annette are always some of my strongest characters so I'm also glad they didn't do that in the end.
If they took Annette form me I wouldn’t of been pissed because in my first play through I married her and I knew I was going too pretty early on. And also somehow she carried my team in maddening (not including Dimitri he also did that but better)
Annette betrayal kinda make sense since she don't show up in Gd as enemy unit because she stay with her uncle and for felix maybe he follow annette if they have a b support lvl or something
@@Vthepizzaboy I just felt like mentioning this but alot of these names are german and since a few of the actual students that made it in the game have german names (Hilda, Leonie, Edelgard...) it's safe to say that some of these names were planned to be students that didn't make it in, or beta names for students. However I expect some of these names to be nabatean as they are quite unique. (Also one of the names is Feld which is literaly the german word for field lol)
@@stopannoyingme601 I've seen that as part of so many anime names that it never occurred to me that it means "field." Stuff like Edelfeld, Feldspar, Waldfeld, etc.
@@motegadg well yes and no. Pretty sure Schumacher is a common enough last name, Hamburg is a city in germany. Then there are a few names like Helda that are totally outdated (so problably germanic since Hilda is an old and rarely used name already, that is also germanic I think. Also I don't think there are many Heldas under the age of 60.) And yes english is germanic. It has a lot of simillar words actualy. For example: Water=Waser, I=Ich Ear=Ohr
I wouldn't say Felix was portrayed as hating his father so much as disagreeing with him. But yes, it was certainly a bit out of character for him to defect due to his father's death. But it would also be believable if they wrote it well enough.
Ok im late to the party, but I need the names for the cut locations. I cant fully understand you and cut content pages dont display the ones you say. Kupala we know of its the other 2 im interested in. Miag and Guidion? Any links to the page they are displayed? or just the actual names of them? I need them for a mod im doing
@@Vthepizzaboy Thx found it, it was in a sub menu or something. Gwydion is likely close to either sreng or duscur cause of the naming. Miach is an odd one. known for its farming but we already have 3 regions in fodlan known for that, being Tailtean, Grondor and Gloucester. So I would like to say its outside of Fodlan. But thx ill be sure to use the names at some point.
So I checked the list, and I'm impressed by what I encountered. So now that I have what I got, can you help me sort out the names for each character? If a definitive edition gets a good chunk of scrapped content from the vanilla game, then I'll need to prepare any necessary piece possible.
An alternative for the Annette and Felix betrayal could be done similar to what is done with Jill in PoR. If they have enough supports unlocked, they stay with the army. Alternatively, they could have pulled a situation from the other routes where, if they fight Byleth and survive the round of combat, they can be re-recruited upon defeat with the whole spare or kill choice.
actually, the ones where Annette and Felix appear as enemy units are actually when you unlock the Edelgard route of the black eagles and you go with her and if you didnt get both Annette and Felix in time in part one they will be enemy units fighting against you at least minus the one where felix wanting revenge but all of the others are actually in the game in the Crimson Flower route of course i could be wrong because i always get Annette and Felix into my house during the black Eagle playthrough
The BL Annette & Felix were probably paralogues just like Dedue's. The most interesting 1 would've been Felix's since it would've been an amazing opportunity to develop both Felix & Dimitri's relationship after Rodrigue's death. I'd imagine the paralogue description being "defeat Felix to recruit him again into your army" or if you don't do the paralogue you lose him forever like Dedue. Annette is probably because of her father-uncle-mother antics. The devs already confirmed in their latest interview that they planned the split only for BE path because of Edelgard's role in the story. So no BL never was planned to have a route split, since it makes no sense, not in the story or gameplay.
I don't think two cut betrayals is enough evidence to indicate a route split. What would the other route have been about, anyways? I can see the order of chapters and story events getting altered, but the plot would be mostly the same. And if the split would occur in the choice between prioritizing Enbarr or Fhirdiad and trigger Felix and Annette leaving your party, then there'd be no reason to pick the split. After all, why would anyone go with the choice that causes them to *lose* 2 characters they spent a lot of time tutoring and training, without getting anything in return?
@@amelialoo3108 All the people saying that the cut Felix and Annette betrayals in AM are somehow evidence that there was gonna be a route split in the blue lions route. Even though there has been nothing else indicating that.
@@garyconstanza3120 Oh... I was aware of that. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. English isn't my first language. I was commenting about your line that mentions nobody would choose a route that causes them to lose 2 characters, so I found it funny because that happens in the church route. I personally find this route's plot great, but it makes you lose your 2 strongest characters. By the way, thanks for taking your time to try to explain it to me.
I figure it was probably just one chapter or paralogue where they betray you, but they rejoin afterwards? It would have been cool, but still weird, which is probably why it got cut.
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Her reason is brought to light in her paralogue. She grew up with her mother and uncle, and would be perfectly justified to return home once Garreg Mach fell. Not only that, but she opposed Dimitri's war plans as well, being one of the main advocates for recapturing Fhirdiad rather than pursuing Enbarr
@@gabbycraft7035 that's pretty easy though, Felix has hated the way Dimitri was changing and becoming a "boar" who kills without second thought so it seems like he'd just be too fed up with Dimitri to stay any longer, though I assume he'd have left before Rodrigue's death because of the line "So he's dead then?" I also assume this may be if you failed do so his paralogue, he would defect or something
JustAregular Dude Yeah but to join with a traitor, though... He searched for Dimitri for 5 years and for him to just up and leave? Besides, in CF when you make him right Dimitri, he doesn’t seem like he really wants to do it.
I love this game so much and really don't want it to be all that there is to Fodlan. There's so much left unsaid and unexplained. Give me a prequel game featuring the older characters as your main cast a la Blazing Sword. After all, Byleth and Edelgard aside, we never really get to see the characters' mothers, just some of their fathers. I get the feeling it's intentionally left that way
I doubt you're a brony, but if you've ever heard the voice of Apple Bloom in Japanese she's literally twice as high and speaks three times as fast. lol I know it has nothing to do with the video I just thought it was funny. lol
I suspected that Claude's name was fake when I played the DLC and Balthus asked him if he was Claude von Riegan, to Claude responded "Claude's a popular name. Works as a fake name as well". The moment the thought entered my brain I just went "nah he wouldn't" but guess I was wrong lol
I'm glad they cut the betrayal. It makes NO sense for Annette and Felix to side with Cornelia, who's got no redeeming qualities whatsoever except for her huge hoonkers. I don't think I'd respect either character if they kept it.
Skazka most likely I saw a video it was the battle of eagle and lion and Dimitri was level 80 with omost maxed stats also it was part 2 so I think it was way to hard also supposedly you couldn’t recruit any students
When the voice actor of Byleth was fired it wasn't because of the controversy. Even tho it seems like it wasn't it actually wasn't. You did say the real reason tho it was he revealed his role to early
That's actually pretty normal for a first-time playthrough. The game is built assuming the player doesn't have any other units besides the ones they have in the class they chose. You can talk to some of the adults like Katherine or Manuela and recruit them if you're worried.
@@Vthepizzaboy no, this would be the fourth time I play it actually, but the very first time I played it I already had Petra (who I want to recruit the most) by that point, and it's a new account so it is not NG+
@@Fermin-hw5pd Without NG+ its very tedious to recruit students, and like i said before you don't need any more units besides the ones you start with, so long as you're spending time grinding the units you currently have. Some of the chapters after the timeskip might be a little harder, but it's still possible.
Not really. There first time I played three houses in didn't recruit anyone until right before the timeskip, and the ones I did recruit were unplanned (except Dorothea) and were basically there because some students didn't end up that great or I didn't have many other characters. But hey, clutch recruitment Linhardt ended up being an endgame lifesaver
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I would've been down for birthday parties, especially for the students.
And break my heart by making me kill my student who I just threw a party for? Where can I sign up?
I believe Azure Moon was planned to split into two routes, which would explain why some of the class would betray you. Might've been related to the scene where you can "choose" to take back the kingdom or rush the imperial capital, but get declined if you pick the latter.
I would have loved that, 5 theoretical routes? I would make sure to train up decent replacements to play that half a route.
That would actually be really awesome, but don't you think a split like that takes place a bit too far into the game?
@@lachesis3104 That's probably the reason it got cut.
That probably explains it. I did thought how it seem important to pick the decision, though it end up being a little anti-climactic when nothing really happened that much
I think it was at that point too. A lot of people who make analyses videos on the routes said that they also feel like this was the splitting point too. Mostly because the answer is as useless and all the answers you pick in Awakening 💔
I would loved to have a connection with hilda's brother.
He is mentioned so many times but never once made an appearance.
Same with Glenn
@@Asehhar but at least Holst is alive, and basically just off screen a few times throughout the game
@@kevandre yeah but Glenn's death is the catalyst for a lot of stuff that happens in the game.. During Dimitris memory you can hear and see a nlc knight saying help me. They could have easily taken Glenn for that just sayin
@@Asehhar from what Rodrigue and Dimitri said Glenn throwed away his life for Dimitri so I highly doubt that he would ask for help after doing that. He knew he would die.
And I just know he’s hot
Jeritza's full name is actually mentioned a few times in-game.
Not to mention the DLC
Even though that’s still not his name lol
“Three Houses has been out for a few months.”
Yeah. Nearly a year.
9 and a half months.
nah, it came out just last week
5 years
A Felix looking to avenge his father is an interesting change, but I'm glad they cut his and Annette's betrayal because those two are usually among my best units and I adore them as characters.
That would have been sooo sad
Wasn't it more if Dimitri insists on attacking Enbarr before reclaiming Fhirdiad?
@@DarkAdonisVyers That's my guess. You are provided with a decision that could've easily served as a "This decision will alter the storyline" choice, but instead your answer doesn't make any difference at all and you just go about the game. It's likely they may have had the intention of every route having diverging paths like Black Eagles, but it got cut due to either time or just a design perspective. As it stands Crimson Flower already seems rushed compared to the other 3.
@@ninjasuikai Verdant Wind isn't that better either. Claude was always showed as an inquisitive character, serving as the middle ground between Edel and Dimitri in the war between the will of god and of men. He, in general, always had the most "modern" values of the bunch, so many envisioned his as the secularisation route. After playing both VW and SS
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I felt that they somewhat got Church and Cluade stories mixed up. Seiros madness would have been a great ending to a quest to discover the truth about the crests and the mythical weapons with a final confrontation between the last symbol of an obscurantist faith and the first ruler chosen by the united people of Fodlan. Instead we got an incessant push towards the Imperial capital just to be told at the end that there was a secret enemy all along.
Claude last fight against the 12 unded champions and Nemesis would have made a great final fight for church route, which could have been an additional route unlockable after all the other 3.
Roberto Giovannini I disagree. Having there being a Rhea fight would have made it so he wasn’t so much of a neutral anymore.
A nemesis fight in SS WOULD make sense, and would be like a historical event type thing, but I feel like the reason they made Rhea boss instead was because they were trying to show that Edelgard was right, in a way. Edelgard’s reason for the war is spread out across all of the storylines.
Honestly, I really hate the change they made to Byleth and Bernadetta's support.
Regardless of which one is more true to the Japanese version, the original translation painted a much clearer picture of what Count Varley was trying to do to Bernadetta, highlighting the cruelty of it. The new translation on the other hand is extremely vague and feels like it lacks any context.
If you consider the difficulty of the subject to explain, I think it makes sense for her to mention it in a vague way.
Then you've got the struggle of not wanting to make your parent look like a bad guy, because they're you're parent. They raised you.
@@VocaloidRoxs09 I doubt Bernadetta has much of a problem with making her dad look like a bad guy, especially since in other supports she's very open about all the things he did to her. She's even okay with him being exiled in a later chapter.
@@VocaloidRoxs09 I happen to be watching someone do a slow burn playthrough of the GD route, and she straight up approves of Count Varley being exiled, because she's scared that now that he's out of house arrest, he's going to come after her. Her support with Dorothea even shows she fears her father will just make her friends "disappear" if she gets close to them.
Making her reasons for why she's so traumatized by her father vague makes her shut-in attitude make less sense and more like she's overreacting. Explaining what happened to her is a vital part of her story, and taking that away does her a disservice.
I recall reading that one actual was censorship
The Australian ratings board threatened to give the game a higher rating if they didn't change it
If it's vague and lacks context, it's because the original line was vague and lacked context. The localization made it a lot more directly grim than it was REALLY meant to be, and that's an unfortunate change because Japan's idea of what the phrase "a submissive wife" means is a bit different (and less overtly about sex) than the western ideas that come from those same words. So the "added context" you see in this line actually confuses things a little bit. Count Varley was cruel, but not specifically in the way the original English-translated line suggested. And there are plenty of other lines still in the game that tell you quite directly how much of a bastard Count Varley was.
Bro, imagine them taking the best Crest from you
And best Blue Lions ship....
Crest of Fraldarius is pretty damn overpowered.
@@samloyd9287 it’s just a shame it’s relic is garbage...
@@failure4452 yeah if he was an armored unit maybe it’d be useful lmao. It slows him down too much
@@rhettmitchell What? Felix already tends to be put into some very light weapons (Wo Dao+ if sticking with the swordmaster theme, and gauntlets if going brawler which are all very light) and his high strength already puts him past the point of being weight down by those weapons not long into the game. Now in Maddening for sure you'll get enemy units that the extra weight will slow him down enough to be significant but you could always just... equip a ring when near them?
Aegis Shield is literally just free survivability. Especially in Hard where Felix will still double everything regardless.
*you know... i don’t know if i could have handled Felix’s and Annette’s Betrayal, playthrough and Emotional wise*
I never like hearing Sylvain and Felix go against each other. It's horrible.
HK Kobayashi ikr. Same with Felix and Dimitri.
Exactly. It makes things worse cuz I ship Sylvix 👉👈
That picture of Adult Sothis actually did appear briefly in the final game. In the movie scene called "Revenge" when all of the pictures flash at the end, you can see her for a second.
Kupala is actually Balthus' hometown he mentions in his supports
And in the after war story about him
AHA i knew that name sounded familiar
Isn't Jeritzas "real" name Emile von Bartels?
Yes
The picture with adult Sothis is used in the opening scene.
Well, as a mural.
it is, but it’s heavily filtered and only appears for a brief flash.
DarkAdonisVyers I think he means in the very beginning with the Seiros vs Nemesis cutscene. After that battle, there’s like a run through of what happened throughout history (it happens very fast) and in one of those pictures, you see that picture shown in this video of Sothis
Actually, Jeritza von Hrym is listed in the game. That’s the name he uses in Crimson Flower when he’s on your team.
His birth name (which is never officially listed in the game) would be Emile von Bartels. We know his father was Baron Bartels, and since he was originally from Imperial nobility, he would have “von” in his last name (seeing as the Empire seems to follow German/Austrian naming customs).
As far as characters with real names go, we still don’t know the real names of Yuri and Hapi.
Annette and Mercedes's betrayal dialogue in particular is so sad, like
Mercie: "Annie please home!! I'll bake you some treats! :("
Annette: "yeah I did always love your sweets..... :((( .......anyway time to die"
I don't think Felix betrayed only because of his father's death because in the first line he sounds like he's confirming with Dimitri that his father is now dead, as though Felix had heard it second hand rather than having been there. So either Felix defected before that or he was missing during his father's death map and then defected.
Might be because of how he hates what Dmitri has become. In CF he joins you because of that very reason.
Something to clarify; it was because the NDA first and foremost about why Chris was removed. The abuse allegations may have had an impact but that's speculation
Its believed that it was originally planned that when given the option of either storming Enbarr or reclaiming Fhirdiad, that a split route would be started and that Annette and Felix would defect if the wrong route was taken (its assumed that Enbarr is where they would defect but that obviously cant be proven without developer input). The reasons for why both defect arent necessarily clear either, but its assumed that Annette does it out of loyalty to her mother and homeland than a mad king. As for Felix, he does love his father. He just can't stand his undying loyalty to the king and his ideals regarding death and knightlyhood.
Also, it's really too bad those Group Activities were cut. I do like the Monastery segments but to an extent I do agree that it lacks variety and gets very repetitive. It could have benefited from having more activities to do to spice things up.
Should have kept birthday parties.
Oddly enough, we found out Chris Niosi originally played Male Byleth when the lords and both genders of Byleth were added to Fire Emblem Heroes (the mobile spinoff) through a data mine a couple days after the announcement trailer. Female Byleth and the lords were on the debut banner while Male Byleth was a free unit for those who bought 3H and linked their Nintendo accounts with FEH and 3H, Male Byleth then appeared on a “legendary banner” sometime later. Shortly after we found out who Male Byleth was played by, Niosi came out about his controversy, and then Nintendo stated shortly after the game was released Male Byleth’s VA would be updated. Sometime after the 3H banner dropped we got a mini trailer for Male Byleth properly introducing him into FEH, and that’s when we found out who his new VA was Zach Aguilar. Following that trailer Aguilar announced on Twitter he would be playing the role of Male Byleth.
Tbh, Aguilar was a way better choice even strictly by VA ability standards
8:27 S-Tier voice acting, wasted
Totally, man! Those two were practically growling at each other!
Lyndis S. Should’ve been used in Crimson Flower
*p r e p a r e y o u r s e l f , y o u d a m n b o a r !*
6:02 The image with Sothis is used in the montage of different eras of time after Lady Seiros kills Nemesis.
Oh my, this is very interesting
Bro how would anyone notice that when that appears for literally half a second.
@@skazka3789 I did catch a glimpse of it but the hue and color was off, so I couldn't make it out that it was Adult Sothis there.
when does that montage play in the game?
@@vinsthymia Right after the opening cutscene.
Cornelia actually has her full name revealed in the game too. I forget which chapter and which routes exactly, but talking to Hanneman will have him not only reveal Cornelia's full name, but also give some brief background (she was a brilliant researcher back in Adrestia, but had left for Faerghus around the time Hanneman left for the Monastery)
I believe it's also revealed in the monastery library? Been awhile since I read the books in there, but im pretty sure there's one that details Cornelia's miracles, and also states her full name.
Or im wrong, and completely misremembering, which is quite likely.
I'm glad Felix and Annette didn't end up betraying me. Though i think a lot of shippers would love this new info about them
So azure moon was originally supposed to be more depressing?
I thought Birthright was depressing....What am I truly getting myself into...?
Felix betraying you to avenge his Father and the guilt over losing Glenn would have added so much more depth to him
Seeing Petra use magic and the angis shield scares me
Ooooo I was hoping Yuri’s actual name would be revealed. Could it possibly be one of the names in that listed that was mentioned?
Also it’s interesting that Kupala, one of the places that could be traded with, is mentioned by Balthus as his mother’s home town/country.
Great video!
Some people suggested him being or being a relative Leon of valentia.
I saw something on Twitter from SerenesForest that talks about combined seals and classes. I assume that’s a similar thing to the composite classes mentioned in this video. Classes like Mortal Savant and Holy Knight were called Combined Classes in the North America artbook, while classes like Wyvern Lord were listed as Master Classes. They assumed that Combined Classes were scrapped in development and some classes were kept as Master Classes.
They probably decided to put the combined classes under the 'Master Class' banner so as to not confuse the player.
10:50 huh, Bernadetta and Petra’s support chain actually references the food gathering task, I was actually wondering about that.
Great video! Something little that I haven’t seen people mention is how the minor crest iteration of the Aubin crest is called, Minor Crest of the Oban, seems like a simple name change
read this as minor crest of obiwan and I’m not sure why
@@mist-rulan1931 you were the chosen one
Felix’s “no need for chitchat, come at me!” Is used in crimson flower, though...
Damn. I'm glad I got to hear that Bernadetta support before they changed it. That detail is such a crucial part of explaining her situation and, in return, her character. Yes it's dark as hell, but it's important information and makes her more sympathetic.
It honestly really bothered me that they changed it.
As someone who's been through similar things it sorta made me feel better and made me relate to her more, seeing it go made me pretty sad.
Sweet Brew Honestly that one crucial detail is what makes her go from “just another shy anime girl” to a really interesting and sad character.
@@maanokay2553 At least we know it's there, even if they updated it out we still _know_ it's there.
@@bernadettavarley Indeed. Its too bad that some people may not get to know the character as well. While it may be true that the line wasn't directly stated in the original Japanese translation, its pretty clearly implied that such an abusive past is what led her to become what she is.
It's funny that they change that but they still haven't fixed "fives years ago"
Honestly I wished they added Rhea as a playable character. :c
I wish they kept the Felix betrayal at least, it would’ve made blue lions much more interesting
Jett Lucas Hayes doesn’t silver snow do the exact same thing? Even then, if they were to implement the betrayal into the game, they should make him recruitable, especially since Dimitri goes through some growth post rodrigue
As long as I could get him back if I have a high enough support level, I'd be down.
@@tigerking3297 Something kinda similar to how Kaze worked (with actual good story reasons)? I would be down too, though that map might be pretty rough if you heavily invested in Felix/Annette. I could see both leaving Dimitri after what he becomes, so it would be really neat to see that play out.
Yeah, but in Silver Snow, you’re given Seteth, Shamir (if you haven’t recruited her yet), Catherine and Cyril (and you keep Flayn). I think Cyril even got a buff to his stats cause he was an actual beast in my Silver Snow route.
I could imagine Annette leaving because of her uncle, but I can’t imagine Felix doing that. Especially knowing that cornelia is a traitor, and he didn’t believe in chivalry. The only reason I could see Felix doing that would be out of spite, and he wouldn’t do that.
3:41 just saying closer to the original doesn't always make it better. Imo adding submissive makes me feel even worse. He was training her to be a wife who neve questions and does everything that her husband tells her to do. Being a good wife and being a good submissive wife are entirely different
Honestly i think the betrayals were either going to be fully recruitable again like ashe or lorenz out of their routes or it was a cut route split likely cut because it would be even less fleshed out than the be ones.
"There are no leftover items in the data"
*Laughs in Dark Blutgang and Ridill*
5:58 Actually, this shot is used in the opening cutscene of the game during that ethereal warp through time transition between Seiros's battle with Nemesis and child Sothis's appearance. It's a pain in the ass to spot, but its there. Also, is it just me or is that shot kinda unsettling? Maybe it's because we don't see adult Sothis outside of the Mural depicting her along with The Immaculate One and the Four Saints, but its almost creepy.
Actually Jeritza's full name is included thanks to the DLC.
I heard "claude is an alien" instead of alias
Apologies for the terrible audio quality. It's a work in progress...
I find it interesting that there are full names of characters hidden in the data, but only those who actually make a physical appearance in some form in the game. Aside from the fact that we didn't find out Claude's real name is Khalid until an interview, I kind of find it a little disappointing we may never know what the full names of characters like Glenn and Holst were. Those two in particular are mentioned frequently but never make an actual appearance (I know Glenn is dead by the point of the game, but he's not even seen in any flashbacks), and sometimes I do wonder what their full names are. I think Holst and Glenn definitely have middle names given they are (or were) members of noble bloodlines (though it's definitely not von for either of them since Kingdom nobility and House Goneril don't use von), and part of me wonders what their middle names are. It's something that I find interesting to speculate about.
I COULD OF FISH WITH FLAYN, LINHARDT, AND SETHET!!!?
Damn, Felix and Annette betraying you. That would have been so interesting, I kind of wish it happened, but at the same time, Felix and Annette are always some of my strongest characters so I'm also glad they didn't do that in the end.
11:30 Hyrule warriors and fire emblem warriors were made by koei tecmo, KT also helped out on three houses and all three use the same same game engine
If they took Annette form me I wouldn’t of been pissed because in my first play through I married her and I knew I was going too pretty early on. And also somehow she carried my team in maddening (not including Dimitri he also did that but better)
“Zanadooo” yeah idk about that one lmao
That line of Felix after hearing Dimitri killed his father had such emotion in it! It was such a change for his character that I wish was left in
Those betrayals would’ve been so good in the original!
Seriously, why need more content of Three Houses in the future!
Annette betrayal kinda make sense since she don't show up in Gd as enemy unit because she stay with her uncle and for felix maybe he follow annette if they have a b support lvl or something
Nice Video,.keep up the good work!
Could we get to know some of the names?
They could be future dlc characters.
The link is in the description as one of my sources, under "information", along with other things i didn't have time to mention.
@@Vthepizzaboy I just felt like mentioning this but alot of these names are german and since a few of the actual students that made it in the game have german names (Hilda, Leonie, Edelgard...) it's safe to say that some of these names were planned to be students that didn't make it in, or beta names for students.
However I expect some of these names to be nabatean as they are quite unique.
(Also one of the names is Feld which is literaly the german word for field lol)
@@stopannoyingme601 I've seen that as part of so many anime names that it never occurred to me that it means "field." Stuff like Edelfeld, Feldspar, Waldfeld, etc.
@@stopannoyingme601 the names are not german per say they are germanic, wich is what languages like german english(?) And dutch are based off
@@motegadg well yes and no. Pretty sure Schumacher is a common enough last name, Hamburg is a city in germany.
Then there are a few names like Helda that are totally outdated (so problably germanic since Hilda is an old and rarely used name already, that is also germanic I think.
Also I don't think there are many Heldas under the age of 60.)
And yes english is germanic.
It has a lot of simillar words actualy.
For example: Water=Waser,
I=Ich Ear=Ohr
I appreciate the spoiler warning! CLICKED that instead, since I haven't done all routes yet.
I wouldn't say Felix was portrayed as hating his father so much as disagreeing with him. But yes, it was certainly a bit out of character for him to defect due to his father's death. But it would also be believable if they wrote it well enough.
Ok im late to the party, but I need the names for the cut locations. I cant fully understand you and cut content pages dont display the ones you say.
Kupala we know of its the other 2 im interested in. Miag and Guidion?
Any links to the page they are displayed? or just the actual names of them? I need them for a mod im doing
Check The Cutting Room Floor, it should be there unless they removed it since
@@Vthepizzaboy Thx found it, it was in a sub menu or something.
Gwydion is likely close to either sreng or duscur cause of the naming.
Miach is an odd one. known for its farming but we already have 3 regions in fodlan known for that, being Tailtean, Grondor and Gloucester.
So I would like to say its outside of Fodlan.
But thx ill be sure to use the names at some point.
2:18 More than 25 unused names? Where did you find that? And do you have the list somewhere?
The cutting room floor, check the sources in the description
So I checked the list, and I'm impressed by what I encountered. So now that I have what I got, can you help me sort out the names for each character?
If a definitive edition gets a good chunk of scrapped content from the vanilla game, then I'll need to prepare any necessary piece possible.
An alternative for the Annette and Felix betrayal could be done similar to what is done with Jill in PoR. If they have enough supports unlocked, they stay with the army. Alternatively, they could have pulled a situation from the other routes where, if they fight Byleth and survive the round of combat, they can be re-recruited upon defeat with the whole spare or kill choice.
actually, the ones where Annette and Felix appear as enemy units are actually when you unlock the Edelgard route of the black eagles and you go with her and if you didnt get both Annette and Felix in time in part one they will be enemy units fighting against you at least minus the one where felix wanting revenge but all of the others are actually in the game in the Crimson Flower route of course i could be wrong because i always get Annette and Felix into my house during the black Eagle playthrough
I’m REAL happy Annette didn’t betray me in my BL run.
My heart would die.
The BL Annette & Felix were probably paralogues just like Dedue's. The most interesting 1 would've been Felix's since it would've been an amazing opportunity to develop both Felix & Dimitri's relationship after Rodrigue's death. I'd imagine the paralogue description being "defeat Felix to recruit him again into your army" or if you don't do the paralogue you lose him forever like Dedue. Annette is probably because of her father-uncle-mother antics.
The devs already confirmed in their latest interview that they planned the split only for BE path because of Edelgard's role in the story. So no BL never was planned to have a route split, since it makes no sense, not in the story or gameplay.
Huh?
So you could be betrayed
It’s my first time hearing Mercie vs Anette and fuck that dialogue broke my heart. If you recruit Annette, it’s IMPERATIVE you recruit Mercie also.
It's believed in the early developing concept that Annette and Felix would defect if they're fathers die on Gronder field.
I don't think two cut betrayals is enough evidence to indicate a route split. What would the other route have been about, anyways? I can see the order of chapters and story events getting altered, but the plot would be mostly the same.
And if the split would occur in the choice between prioritizing Enbarr or Fhirdiad and trigger Felix and Annette leaving your party, then there'd be no reason to pick the split. After all, why would anyone go with the choice that causes them to *lose* 2 characters they spent a lot of time tutoring and training, without getting anything in return?
Are you talking about church route? lol
@@amelialoo3108 All the people saying that the cut Felix and Annette betrayals in AM are somehow evidence that there was gonna be a route split in the blue lions route. Even though there has been nothing else indicating that.
@@garyconstanza3120 Oh... I was aware of that. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. English isn't my first language. I was commenting about your line that mentions nobody would choose a route that causes them to lose 2 characters, so I found it funny because that happens in the church route. I personally find this route's plot great, but it makes you lose your 2 strongest characters. By the way, thanks for taking your time to try to explain it to me.
I figure it was probably just one chapter or paralogue where they betray you, but they rejoin afterwards? It would have been cool, but still weird, which is probably why it got cut.
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So wait, byleths full name would be "Byleth Reus Eisner"?
"Reus" is Jeralt's name, so it probably wouldn't be passed down. However, Byleth's full name is "Byleth Eisner"
I'm still confused on why Annette would betray you in AZ
dimitri a a-hole that route
Her reason is brought to light in her paralogue. She grew up with her mother and uncle, and would be perfectly justified to return home once Garreg Mach fell. Not only that, but she opposed Dimitri's war plans as well, being one of the main advocates for recapturing Fhirdiad rather than pursuing Enbarr
I understand why Annette would, but not Felix.
@@gabbycraft7035 that's pretty easy though, Felix has hated the way Dimitri was changing and becoming a "boar" who kills without second thought so it seems like he'd just be too fed up with Dimitri to stay any longer, though I assume he'd have left before Rodrigue's death because of the line "So he's dead then?" I also assume this may be if you failed do so his paralogue, he would defect or something
JustAregular Dude Yeah but to join with a traitor, though... He searched for Dimitri for 5 years and for him to just up and leave?
Besides, in CF when you make him right Dimitri, he doesn’t seem like he really wants to do it.
I love this game so much and really don't want it to be all that there is to Fodlan. There's so much left unsaid and unexplained.
Give me a prequel game featuring the older characters as your main cast a la Blazing Sword. After all, Byleth and Edelgard aside, we never really get to see the characters' mothers, just some of their fathers. I get the feeling it's intentionally left that way
Bernie's Japanese voice is terrible
I got a headache trying to record that clip
Vthepizzaboy I've heard anime children with lower voices then that eugh
I doubt you're a brony, but if you've ever heard the voice of Apple Bloom in Japanese she's literally twice as high and speaks three times as fast. lol
I know it has nothing to do with the video I just thought it was funny. lol
Where are the extra names?
Under "information" in the description
9:17 *laughs in hunting by daybreak maddening*
those felix lines.....im in pain
A few months it been for a good 2 years almost
Yeah, I was working on this video for a while before uploading it!
@@Vthepizzaboy you good man. Thanks for the heart
The felix stuff actually hurt what the hell
I suspected that Claude's name was fake when I played the DLC and Balthus asked him if he was Claude von Riegan, to Claude responded "Claude's a popular name. Works as a fake name as well". The moment the thought entered my brain I just went "nah he wouldn't" but guess I was wrong lol
That girl with the bad mic is destroying my ears
As said girl with the bad mic, I can say that I completely agree with you.
PREPARE YOURSELF, YOU DAMN BOAR!
Awesome video. I'm sub now
Petty complaint but why does it take 43 seconds for it to start
So what I’m hearing is Felix and Annette are canon🤷🏻♀️
I'm glad they cut the betrayal. It makes NO sense for Annette and Felix to side with Cornelia, who's got no redeeming qualities whatsoever except for her huge hoonkers. I don't think I'd respect either character if they kept it.
What about the "Infernal" difficulty mode? Was that cut too?
Skazka most likely I saw a video it was the battle of eagle and lion and Dimitri was level 80 with omost maxed stats also it was part 2 so I think it was way to hard also supposedly you couldn’t recruit any students
When the voice actor of Byleth was fired it wasn't because of the controversy. Even tho it seems like it wasn't it actually wasn't. You did say the real reason tho it was he revealed his role to early
Hey, I have a question, I´m playing in hard mode, and I´m at the battle of the Eagle ad Lion and I couldn´t recruit anyone yet... Is that a bad sign?
That's actually pretty normal for a first-time playthrough. The game is built assuming the player doesn't have any other units besides the ones they have in the class they chose. You can talk to some of the adults like Katherine or Manuela and recruit them if you're worried.
@@Vthepizzaboy no, this would be the fourth time I play it actually, but the very first time I played it I already had Petra (who I want to recruit the most) by that point, and it's a new account so it is not NG+
@@Fermin-hw5pd Without NG+ its very tedious to recruit students, and like i said before you don't need any more units besides the ones you start with, so long as you're spending time grinding the units you currently have. Some of the chapters after the timeskip might be a little harder, but it's still possible.
Not really. There first time I played three houses in didn't recruit anyone until right before the timeskip, and the ones I did recruit were unplanned (except Dorothea) and were basically there because some students didn't end up that great or I didn't have many other characters.
But hey, clutch recruitment Linhardt ended up being an endgame lifesaver
@@mysticknight1494 I like to recruit them sooner because you have more time to customize them and all
I wanna see An Fire Emblem The Three Houses : The Animation series
So... No Holst model in the files?
To my knowledge, no. If he was intended to show up, he would probably be a generic unit
@@Vthepizzaboy Sad indeed.
all I'm hearing is Season pass 2 when? never never ;-;
omg... Khalid... I didn't realize you pronounced his name like it's a brand of TUBAWARE
3:41 is that really what Bernadetta sounds like in Japanese? It's fucking awful wtf
How do you pronounce things wrong...the game is literally fully VA. Zan-a-doe not Zan-a-du lmao
That mic tho
This video has more likes then you have subs
The way he pronounces Khalid bothers me sooo much omg
You mean we almost got to see Kupala? We could’ve actually seen Holst if that was the case 😭
Good news for Holst
5:54 I caught that name switch lol Some ONJ references up in here