It doesn't matter if you are on1 or on2, if you are counting "123,567" you are dancing on the same rhythm, but just breaking differently. If you dance on "234,678" them you are dancing to the loud slap to the double hit and technically that would be dancing to the "rhythm" that one might say aka dancing Mambo or Son style. Great video regardless.
I dance on1, but find it much harder to make some routines to particular songs, because they are clearly built on2 - eg. El Gran Varón. I do want to learn on2, which one do you dance?
I’m going to try, can’t unite grasp it as yet but, luckily I’ve not been dance I got that long or, had lessons sooo, hopefully 🙏 not to late to adapt to both.
I learned on-1 in San Francisco. California is (was) primarily an on-1 dance community. My first motivation to learn to dance on-2 was to learn something different. But I was also well aware that the better followers in my area preferred to dance on-2. Being able to dance on-2 meant I could dance with more advanced partners more often. Dancing with someone more experienced can help make you a better dancer. Now that I live in Bangkok I find that being able to dance on-1 and on-2 is advantageous. This is a mixed dance community because there are many people from many countries.
I wish you had done it to music. This is the best explanation I have seen. I’ve been dancing for 6 years and the technical difference of on1vs on2 is a completely different dance!
+Maarten Derickx yes, it should be because it's mostly about the mechanics of our movement and not about counts or even a rhythm. Glad I could help. Keep watching! 😍
I teach both Salsa and Mambo, but if some dancers claim to feel it more on "2" why is there so many people lost and so many videos trying to explain it and yet no one can clearly explain it? Next time try explaining the difference with a conga player next to you.
En on 1, normalmente when you say quick quick slow, in the pause it' used change of weigth (cambio de peso) para darle to the body elegance in motion, sorry for my english very bad jejejeje, congratulations and Saludos
It really doesn't matter if you dance on 1, 2, or 3. BUT, it's probably much better to LEARN to dance on 2. Why? Because you will learn to hear the music much, much better than if you learn to dance on 1. Dancing starts with the music; the better you hear and understand the music, the better you will dance, and with greater musicality. If you learn to dance on 2, it should not be difficult to switch to 1, whenever necessary or whenever you feel like it. But if you learn to dance on 1, it's usually much more difficult to switch to 2. Dance on 1, 2, or 3, it really doesn't matter; but a good dancer should be able to dance equally well on 1, 2, or 3; and to do that you should LEARN to dance salsa on 2.
Did you mean 1..3.4.5..7.8. ? I actually use this basic as a part of a lot of combos and I call it a Reverse Basic - also I explained it in detail in my film called 5 types of basic step. Hope this does make sense 🥰
Great video, I love on2, but for me the real challenge is that any teacher I meet uses different styles (somebody stepping old mambo 234, somebody NY style 123, somebody &23, somebody holding the 4&, somebody traveling on 4&, not to mention the turns). On LA anybody is stepping and turning pretty much in a similar way, while on2 there are plenty of different variations from NY-ET style. It would not be that difficult for me to learn and dance on2 if there was one common on2 (eg NY-ET style) but 4 months on, 3 different teachers, and I still don't know how to step. From a side that gives flavor and connection to the music but from the others it makes things more complicated to who wants to learn and dance on2 and therefore make on2 more popular.
It just shows that salsa has many colors and faces. Freedom and no real limits when it comes to dancing to the rhythm. Maybe that's why everyone has a different flavor to it. I love to mix my basic from classic on2 to a power on 2 through a palladium on2 or just mess around and dance on1 and on3 hahaha.
@@krambodance3377 it's a balance between making a dance rich and multi-faced and making a dance accessible and popular. IMO the way on2 is tought is more successful at the former, LA/Casino at the latter.
Thanks a lot for the explanation- very helpful & well thorough way to deal with that eternal dilemma among Salseros- a few questions for you: I first learnt salsa On2 during my teens years, and practiced all the way to my early 20s - then I literally stopped dancing -a complete halt for another decade - then I decided few years ago to re-learn it properly and the classes are On1 - BUT I've noticed & been told when I do Social Dancing, ((if the salsa rhythm is fast, my body goes automatically On2 )) - So the question is - how troubling/uncomfortable is that to happen when the follower is dancing On1? Is there a way to draw a line to control that? Is there a middle ground where dancing On1 & On2 can co-exist without clashing? Thanks kindly :)
Thanks for your insights! Question 1: Why do you say that On2 is right foot first, different from On1, and at the end you switch to left first again? Question 2: Why do people tend to think that dancing is about doing step patterns?
I think I might answer your second question with this video about the steps vs personality: ruclips.net/video/tu-HJmxQiNg/видео.html In On2 we always start with the right foot forward and the left back. However those are just guidelines not absolute quantities. You can play and break them if you like. Try both and feel the difference. Good luck dancing and practising!
Hey patchy, there is no such thing as this is the best way. As a good dancer you need to open the doors and let people in! Not creep them out. Any dance at the beat and timing is good. Don't contradict your self ! It seems you still in the journey to become a teacher
I never said, my way was or is the best way. I said, I love it and it works for ME. Moreover the video is not meant for everybody just for those who struggle whilst trying to change the basic step from on1 to on2. I'm not judgeing or looking down on anyone. You're right, it's a fantastic journey and I really enjoy it. Thank you for your comment.
Thanks for the great videos. When you dance partner work do you switch all your on2 shines to the lead's count or do you continue to do them on 2 with the follow's count as you have been doing when dancing solo?
I have some questions! I learned to dance on 2 (i'm from New York) but when I travel, I want to be able to dance with others, whether they dance on 1 or 2, will it be very difficult for me to dance with someone who dances on 1? :( Do cubans dance on 1? I'm so sad hahaha, I hope this will be easy for me
You'll be fine as long as you have a big smile on your face and love dancing, with love you can't go wrong! And good question, what do Cubans dance on?!? :)
Well, when Cubans dance Casino they usually do it On1; when dancing Son they usually do it On2 (really counting On2 if they do count: 2/3/4 - 6/7/8). However, both type of dance could be danced on both times...
I'm from New York also and I learned On2 also. I had a different problem which was when I go to socials I noticed that a lot of women didn't know how to dance On2 so guys wouldn't ask them to dance so they sit there watching everyone having fun.So I took it upon myself to learn to dance on1. It was a little difficult at first but with a little practice in time you'll be just fine. Now I have more fun because I have twice as many ladies to dance with and I am making someone have a good time
No but just no ... The rythmn of the salsa is not the tumbao, it's 1/2/3 & 5/6/7 so ... basicely, you count on1 when you dance on2 ... They are few percusion, you have the campana the timbales too and they are on1. That's a fake idea to say that you dance more on rythm on2 ...
+Thibaud Favreau I see your point but please tell me: what happens when you get the tumbao out? Isn't it the beating heart of salsa music? There is salsa without timbales and without the campana but if there's no congas... and when I dance I have to know where my 1 is but I need to feel he beat and the rhythm played by congas in the first place. So I would never risk to say that 1.2.3. Is the rhythm of salsa. It's just the measure of rhythm. We need measures to understand and tame any rhythm. Thank you for watching 😊
Maybe ... I don't know ... because if you take colombian salsa, I don't hear the tumbao ... they are so many instruments ... (and i began to dance On1 so yes, it's not so clear for me) so for me you can't say that your are more in a musicality way to dance for this kind of songs ... So traditionally, the salsa come from the son (and other) and they danced on2, but now, they are a lot of salsa song in wich you don't hear any more the tumbao ... I understand.I respect that ! But just be fair ! I dance On2 too now, so i have no angry against mambo. Just I hear too many times the same thing. With this kind of speech, a lot of people think that mambo dancers are arrogants !
@4:10 I don't agree. Dancing on1 it's quick quick quick and not quick quick slow. The timing is the same for counts 1,2,3 then your body slowly moves to step on5. I think you're great on 2 teacher but not accurate on1.
Thank you Cesar for you comment. My quick quick slow analogy is referring to the basic salsa count where on 3 (doesn't matter if its on 1 or on2) there is a half note step which you can translate to slow comparing to the quarter 1 and 2 steps. I hope this claryfies my view. Thank you for watching 😊
to much cutting during editing - didnt make it clear u talk a lot and no breaks between points. this is On1 then talk about other stuff then this is On2. very confusing video.
On2 schools HAVE to teach on1 also, at least at the beginning , because on1 is a natural human dance pattern.... With any music and dance like hip hop Disco traditional dances etc (not only salsa)
Is not true about the footwork on1, that are not much to learn! It just that salsa on1 teaches are not well oriented! My teacher has taught me 1000 of variations of footwork and body movements! And I can do the same ones that are use on2, original salsa on2 don’t step on1. This is nee York style.
But I am knowledge that majority of salsa on2 are better prepared and practical with footwork and body movements! I don’t why teachers on1 have like a limit
Well I guess this might be helpful to someone who's already experienced. But if you're just learning and trying to decide which style to start with, this was pretty awful and confusing. You seem to rush through the key concepts, you never actually slow down or exaggerate points. It's like somebody teaching math but talking like the student already knows how to do it. Very poor explanation.
This is partially right I guess. The video is for someone who is already experienced in on1, so true. I'm not showing you the differences to make you decide which style you should choose. The point was to help you to "switch" or to build a positive approach when you start learning on2. In the end this is just a quick helper and not a full curriculum. You should go to school and study. I'm here to give some pointers and maybe give you some inspiration. This is what I try to do. Thank you for your comment.
My Boi Eddie Torres has influence all these salsa dancers world wide they need to make a tribute and homenaje to him cause all this he was the one who started it and took it world wide now everyone wants to act like they made shit up hahaha yea ok. A Nuyokrikan Boricua by the name of Eddie Torres from nuyok baby made this salsa dancing a sensation world wide.
Interesting because I never said I started anything 😊 we all stand on the shoulders of the giants that lived and created before us. Indeed we shall appreciate and remember about the past and look up for the future without any complexes. Go dance, go create, go teach and spread the love. ❤️ Qué viva la salsa!
I have watched more 10videos figuring out what’s difference and this is the best explanation so far 🙌 Thank you!
Very great explanation ! Thanks for sharing!
It doesn't matter if you are on1 or on2, if you are counting "123,567" you are dancing on the same rhythm, but just breaking differently. If you dance on "234,678" them you are dancing to the loud slap to the double hit and technically that would be dancing to the "rhythm" that one might say aka dancing Mambo or Son style. Great video regardless.
I dance on1, but find it much harder to make some routines to particular songs, because they are clearly built on2 - eg. El Gran Varón. I do want to learn on2, which one do you dance?
Love that smile "Salsa on 2 is more for the ladies, and that's why it's more beautiful"!
I’m going to try, can’t unite grasp it as yet but, luckily I’ve not been dance I got that long or, had lessons sooo, hopefully 🙏 not to late to adapt to both.
Good luck 🍀🤞
I learned on-1 in San Francisco. California is (was) primarily an on-1 dance community. My first motivation to learn to dance on-2 was to learn something different. But I was also well aware that the better followers in my area preferred to dance on-2. Being able to dance on-2 meant I could dance with more advanced partners more often. Dancing with someone more experienced can help make you a better dancer.
Now that I live in Bangkok I find that being able to dance on-1 and on-2 is advantageous. This is a mixed dance community because there are many people from many countries.
Great that you can experience both styles and thanks to it you can connect with more people. It is So important! Good luck :)
I'm going to learn and loving salsa on 2 also thnks your video 🔝 are very interesting.
I wish you had done it to music. This is the best explanation I have seen. I’ve been dancing for 6 years and the technical difference of on1vs on2 is a completely different dance!
Love your videos, very wise words!
Thank you so much, this means so much to me! 😍❤️
Well put, Marcin!
The part starting at 5:20 was an eyeopener for me.
+Maarten Derickx yes, it should be because it's mostly about the mechanics of our movement and not about counts or even a rhythm. Glad I could help. Keep watching! 😍
I teach both Salsa and Mambo, but if some dancers claim to feel it more on "2" why is there so many people lost and so many videos trying to explain it and yet no one can clearly explain it?
Next time try explaining the difference with a conga player next to you.
Great advice
En on 1, normalmente when you say quick quick slow, in the pause it' used change of weigth (cambio de peso) para darle to the body elegance in motion, sorry for my english very bad jejejeje, congratulations and Saludos
+Ulises Cortez Gracias y saludos tambien 👍👍👍
👀WOWOWOW LOVE LOVE you maestro ¡Wait let's start from the beginning! Hahaha my body and mined working together on 2 I'm learning
It really doesn't matter if you dance on 1, 2, or 3. BUT, it's probably much better to LEARN to dance on 2. Why? Because you will learn to hear the music much, much better than if you learn to dance on 1. Dancing starts with the music; the better you hear and understand the music, the better you will dance, and with greater musicality. If you learn to dance on 2, it should not be difficult to switch to 1, whenever necessary or whenever you feel like it. But if you learn to dance on 1, it's usually much more difficult to switch to 2. Dance on 1, 2, or 3, it really doesn't matter; but a good dancer should be able to dance equally well on 1, 2, or 3; and to do that you should LEARN to dance salsa on 2.
very good...!
The Mayor problem is the Music base line is the Clave and it seems that either no one knows about the Clave or just ignored.
Does anyone do 134678, i.e slow, quick quick, slow, quick quick?
Did you mean 1..3.4.5..7.8. ? I actually use this basic as a part of a lot of combos and I call it a Reverse Basic - also I explained it in detail in my film called 5 types of basic step. Hope this does make sense 🥰
very well explained! great video!
+Franck Auer Thank you!
Great video, I love on2, but for me the real challenge is that any teacher I meet uses different styles (somebody stepping old mambo 234, somebody NY style 123, somebody &23, somebody holding the 4&, somebody traveling on 4&, not to mention the turns).
On LA anybody is stepping and turning pretty much in a similar way, while on2 there are plenty of different variations from NY-ET style. It would not be that difficult for me to learn and dance on2 if there was one common on2 (eg NY-ET style) but 4 months on, 3 different teachers, and I still don't know how to step. From a side that gives flavor and connection to the music but from the others it makes things more complicated to who wants to learn and dance on2 and therefore make on2 more popular.
It just shows that salsa has many colors and faces. Freedom and no real limits when it comes to dancing to the rhythm. Maybe that's why everyone has a different flavor to it. I love to mix my basic from classic on2 to a power on 2 through a palladium on2 or just mess around and dance on1 and on3 hahaha.
@@krambodance3377 it's a balance between making a dance rich and multi-faced and making a dance accessible and popular. IMO the way on2 is tought is more successful at the former, LA/Casino at the latter.
the video starts at @5:49
Thanks a lot for the explanation- very helpful & well thorough way to deal with that eternal dilemma among Salseros- a few questions for you: I first learnt salsa On2 during my teens years, and practiced all the way to my early 20s - then I literally stopped dancing -a complete halt for another decade - then I decided few years ago to re-learn it properly and the classes are On1 - BUT I've noticed & been told when I do Social Dancing, ((if the salsa rhythm is fast, my body goes automatically On2 )) - So the question is - how troubling/uncomfortable is that to happen when the follower is dancing On1? Is there a way to draw a line to control that? Is there a middle ground where dancing On1 & On2 can co-exist without clashing? Thanks kindly :)
You can switch from 1 and 2 while you're dancing and the other way around.
Thanks for your insights! Question 1: Why do you say that On2 is right foot first, different from On1, and at the end you switch to left first again? Question 2: Why do people tend to think that dancing is about doing step patterns?
I think I might answer your second question with this video about the steps vs personality: ruclips.net/video/tu-HJmxQiNg/видео.html
In On2 we always start with the right foot forward and the left back. However those are just guidelines not absolute quantities. You can play and break them if you like. Try both and feel the difference.
Good luck dancing and practising!
There is never any need to transition from on2 to on1, And that's because on one is a natural dance pattern...
The first thing is the count went you count on 1you very clear.But like many of you out there on 2 is not clear.
I hope we can meet one day so I can be more clear about my ideas.
Hey patchy, there is no such thing as this is the best way. As a good dancer you need to open the doors and let people in! Not creep them out. Any dance at the beat and timing is good. Don't contradict your self ! It seems you still in the journey to become a teacher
I never said, my way was or is the best way. I said, I love it and it works for ME. Moreover the video is not meant for everybody just for those who struggle whilst trying to change the basic step from on1 to on2. I'm not judgeing or looking down on anyone.
You're right, it's a fantastic journey and I really enjoy it. Thank you for your comment.
Because if you dance on2 you can adjust easier to learning cha cha cha
True 😀
Thankyou Love geografía
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great videos.
When you dance partner work do you switch all your on2 shines to the lead's count or do you continue to do them on 2 with the follow's count as you have been doing when dancing solo?
+Exod999 it depends on what's happening with the partner or with the song or with the space I have. Actually I am able to do it both ways.
I only know dancer which switch from on1 to on2. I dont know any dancer who switch from on2 to on1 :D
so basically they're opposites of each other..
why do most Salsa dancing school start teaching ON1 ?
+clavicula8018 Probably they think On1 is easier for the beginners... or they are following a trend... both is incorrect IMO.
Freeze it at 0:13. Is this subliminal messaging? How do you really feel about on1 versus on2. Haha. ;)
Shush about that, hahaha!
😂😂😂😂
could you do a dance on 2 strictly for the ladies? a little slower 😆
+Caroline Powell Pape Most of the lessons I teach applies both for the guys and ladies. So yes. I can do it.
well explained! totally agree with the 'switch' part: one should better to learn on2 seprately from scrach as to "switch" from on1.
+Shenzhen lu That is the best way.
I have some questions! I learned to dance on 2 (i'm from New York) but when I travel, I want to be able to dance with others, whether they dance on 1 or 2, will it be very difficult for me to dance with someone who dances on 1? :( Do cubans dance on 1? I'm so sad hahaha, I hope this will be easy for me
I have the same question. I always see people saying from learning On2 from On1 but I don't see people asking about Learning On1 from On2.
Hahaha, that's one big mystery, isn't it?!
You'll be fine as long as you have a big smile on your face and love dancing, with love you can't go wrong! And good question, what do Cubans dance on?!? :)
Well, when Cubans dance Casino they usually do it On1; when dancing Son they usually do it On2 (really counting On2 if they do count: 2/3/4 - 6/7/8). However, both type of dance could be danced on both times...
I'm from New York also and I learned On2 also. I had a different problem which was when I go to socials I noticed that a lot of women didn't know how to dance On2 so guys wouldn't ask them to dance so they sit there watching everyone having fun.So I took it upon myself to learn to dance on1. It was a little difficult at first but with a little practice in time you'll be just fine. Now I have more fun because I have twice as many ladies to dance with and I am making someone have a good time
No but just no ...
The rythmn of the salsa is not the tumbao, it's 1/2/3 & 5/6/7 so ... basicely, you count on1 when you dance on2 ...
They are few percusion, you have the campana the timbales too and they are on1. That's a fake idea to say that you dance more on rythm on2 ...
+Thibaud Favreau I see your point but please tell me: what happens when you get the tumbao out? Isn't it the beating heart of salsa music? There is salsa without timbales and without the campana but if there's no congas... and when I dance I have to know where my 1 is but I need to feel he beat and the rhythm played by congas in the first place. So I would never risk to say that 1.2.3. Is the rhythm of salsa. It's just the measure of rhythm. We need measures to understand and tame any rhythm. Thank you for watching 😊
Maybe ... I don't know ... because if you take colombian salsa, I don't hear the tumbao ... they are so many instruments ... (and i began to dance On1 so yes, it's not so clear for me) so for me you can't say that your are more in a musicality way to dance for this kind of songs ...
So traditionally, the salsa come from the son (and other) and they danced on2, but now, they are a lot of salsa song in wich you don't hear any more the tumbao ... I understand.I respect that ! But just be fair !
I dance On2 too now, so i have no angry against mambo. Just I hear too many times the same thing. With this kind of speech, a lot of people think that mambo dancers are arrogants !
@4:10 I don't agree. Dancing on1 it's quick quick quick and not quick quick slow. The timing is the same for counts 1,2,3 then your body slowly moves to step on5. I think you're great on 2 teacher but not accurate on1.
Thank you Cesar for you comment. My quick quick slow analogy is referring to the basic salsa count where on 3 (doesn't matter if its on 1 or on2) there is a half note step which you can translate to slow comparing to the quarter 1 and 2 steps. I hope this claryfies my view. Thank you for watching 😊
Pls MAESTRO, MOVE YOUR CÁMARA angle down, yourfeet are cutting off💃🏻
to much cutting during editing - didnt make it clear u talk a lot and no breaks between points. this is On1 then talk about other stuff then this is On2. very confusing video.
+Calofir Emil I was cutting too much at the time. My bad. Still learning to edit though and I hope it was at least a bit useful.
I've been dancing on one, and I am now learning how to dance on two. This is super useful, thanks!!!!
On2 schools HAVE to teach on1 also, at least at the beginning , because on1 is a natural human dance pattern.... With any music and dance like hip hop Disco traditional dances etc (not only salsa)
I teach them on 2 from the start using the count starting on1: 1,2,3 and 5,6,7. So you're actually right 😀😊
Is not true about the footwork on1, that are not much to learn! It just that salsa on1 teaches are not well oriented! My teacher has taught me 1000 of variations of footwork and body movements! And I can do the same ones that are use on2, original salsa on2 don’t step on1. This is nee York style.
Lucky you 😊🍀😊, yes I dance New York style mostly 🗽
But I am knowledge that majority of salsa on2 are better prepared and practical with footwork and body movements! I don’t why teachers on1 have like a limit
Well I guess this might be helpful to someone who's already experienced. But if you're just learning and trying to decide which style to start with, this was pretty awful and confusing. You seem to rush through the key concepts, you never actually slow down or exaggerate points. It's like somebody teaching math but talking like the student already knows how to do it. Very poor explanation.
This is partially right I guess. The video is for someone who is already experienced in on1, so true. I'm not showing you the differences to make you decide which style you should choose. The point was to help you to "switch" or to build a positive approach when you start learning on2. In the end this is just a quick helper and not a full curriculum. You should go to school and study. I'm here to give some pointers and maybe give you some inspiration. This is what I try to do. Thank you for your comment.
To much talking ‘ No enough demonstrations. No a good class and we understand that he like dance
My Boi Eddie Torres has influence all these salsa dancers world wide they need to make a tribute and homenaje to him cause all this he was the one who started it and took it world wide now everyone wants to act like they made shit up hahaha yea ok. A Nuyokrikan Boricua by the name of Eddie Torres from nuyok baby made this salsa dancing a sensation world wide.
Interesting because I never said I started anything 😊 we all stand on the shoulders of the giants that lived and created before us. Indeed we shall appreciate and remember about the past and look up for the future without any complexes. Go dance, go create, go teach and spread the love. ❤️ Qué viva la salsa!
@@krambodance3377 true you never said that and I never said you did :)