+Mike Garcia Thank you Mike. Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline we will have good information for you! =)
What a brilliant simply explained should be standard for all salsa teachers sadly too many work on footwork and not timing with the subsequent results thank you will watch more!
Wow, thank you. After trying to figure it out on my own for so long, I understood the beat after a minute and a half of watching your video,. God bless ☺
Absolutely true about the conga and the clave. I think the piano is tricky as in many songs it doesn't stress the first beat. The cowbell often gives you the first and the third.
It takes time to understand be patient, it take time and practice. It's like learn a new language, at the beginning it's hard to understand but little by little the ear starts recognizing the changes of the sounds.
Joel, How do you distinguish between the 2 and the 6 in the conga? I can hear the 2 and 6 clearly but not sure whether it is 2, 6 , 2, 6 or 6, 2. 6, 2, etc.
I am a drummer, and in Salsa music i always listened to the "offbeats", trying to avoid the "one", but feeling it. In fact it seems only the piano plays on the downbeat, while most other instruments, even the bass and vocals, are missing the one. Thats different to brasilian music, i.e. But what i wanted to say, when i had my first rehearsals with Salsa dancing, i found it much easier to listen to the piano and the bass (if you can hear it), instead on all those many rhythm instruments, while dancing. Its giving more relaxed freedom in my opinion.
Joel really enjoying your videos I dance salsa on 2 here in Sunrise Florida and I noticed that beginners have trouble understanding what to do after the Cun-Cun sound because all of the instruction is focused on the two and on the six if people think of the Cun-Cun sound as the go sound meaning that as soon as you hear that you take step number one in order to get two step number two just a thought on my part it helps me hear the music when I'm dancing
Bro thank you so much for your video. Finally I can be dancing like a salsa king soon enough lol. I'm a musician and a dancer at heart, salsa beat is challenging for me because I'm a ballroom dancer. But you made it where I can understand it now and jump right in not like a crazy white boy. Mucho gracias me Nuevo amigo
I was struggling to find the timing as I am a beginner to salsa. This was a great teaching tool for the timing and now I have it. Thank you so much for your help.
Thank you for your comment, to distinguish the first part of the dancer count we using other instruments like Piano, clave, etc. Once we detect the 1st beat of the 8 count we will know when is the 2 and 6. Please search for Dance With Feeling I have more videos there! =)
It's a different feeling when you count than when you only listen to the instruments, try to follow the music without counting your salsa steps and follow the sounds with your steps. Don't give up you will see how one day will click and then you will be able to have the feeling in your dancing as well. Joel
on which number do you make the turn no. 1 or no. 5. Is there a still pictures showing different hand variations. It's hard to follow when the exchanges when dancing
I will be uploading more videos to explain more details about the timing in the salsa music with different instruments like the clave. Thank you for your comment and watching! =)
Clave should be the first one and is the most important, clave set the rhythm of salsa. In this case he explained the rumba clave, which is not the most frequent in salsa. Any way the explanation is really good, I suggest it to find the bass sound it will be the strong beat, and the " Tumbao" .
this is one of the best videos I've seen so far, my question is, can I use the first sound,, can I use the first sound, the piano sound to dance on2 do I have to always use the Conga sound to dance on2? I just seem to have an easier time catching the piano song over the conga... I am currently transitioning into dancing on2
Good day Joel, the most important instrument in what they call Salsa is La clave that Origin is Cuban, also the conga that was created in Cuba. There wouldn’t be salsa without La Clava ! I think you should mention the true origins of the instrument because they are Cuban Origins, remember without either instrument there is no Salsa
+flopski Thank you for your comment =) Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline, we will have great information for you!
¿ No tienen este mismo video hablado en español ? ... ( La gran mayoría de lo salseros es hispano-hablante ) ... Los que no queremos utilizar el idioma Inglés, tenemos que estar pendientes de la traducción mediante subtítulos, lo que nos hace perder la atención de la parte musical, que es lo esencial. ( De todas maneras, felicitaciones a Joel Salsa, pues es muy interesante el tema planteado, dada la importancia del ritmo o pulso en la salsa )
Not understanding the conga. When I try to do the steps on the beat, the first beat matches the first step. And so on..every beat on 123 567. But Joel says it starts at 2?
From reading the comments below there is a lot of confusion. The guy is talking East Coast Salsa, which on the West Coast is known as Mambo or salsa on 2. In general musicians are the last guys one should ask about dancing.
+yanilka lugo Thank you Yanilka! Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline, we will have great information for you!
Olvide decirte que ese tun tun pack del tunbao de conga es para clave 3'2 de son montuno y si sales en el tiempo antes del pack estas saliendo en el pulso 2 y no en el pulso6, Te recomiendo el video didactico del maestro Giovanni Hidalgo para comprender la diferencia de el tumbao de congas en tienpo de son montuno 2'3 y 3'2
+eyukino Thank you =) Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline, we will have great information for you!
The conga beat pattern you used is a four count, so its the 2 and 4 that you counted and not the 2 and 6. To have an eight count you have to use two patterns of congas beat, so then you've got the 2-4-6-8. Anyway i like the video. Greetings
Well, 2468 still keeps the timing..... But for Dancers the instruction is that they have keep the beats of PAUSE 4 & 8 (6 steps within 8 beats of Music) this is the REAL Problem of Dancers, learning. not the Music...............
Because the conga player starts on 8, and not on 1. I get the confusion. I've been playing a bit of salsa percussion myself, and I still get mixed up about this sometimes. It seems to be an essential cultural difference between western music and i.e. Cuban music, that they take for granted, that you know this. I wish that the people making these videos would piont this out, or maybe let the conga figure start on 1 instead of on 8 (or if you only count 4, on 4).
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This guy has an accent so I totally trust him.
lokeymexican lol
lol
😂😂😂😂 lolol
I like the way you teach salsa by teaching us to hear the beats in the music.
+Mike Garcia Thank you Mike. Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline we will have good information for you! =)
Just like what others have said, this is the simplest and easiest timing instruction video out there. Very helpful to me, thank you!
What a brilliant simply explained should be standard for all salsa teachers sadly too many work on footwork and not timing with the subsequent results thank you will watch more!
This is the best demo of catching the beat and counts..so genius ..can not get better of this !!!!!
I've been watching a lot of videos trying to understand this and this has been the best one this far, thanks!
Thank you for your comment Rknoops see you in the next videos! Joel
Wow, thank you. After trying to figure it out on my own for so long, I understood the beat after a minute and a half of watching your video,. God bless ☺
This is great John!
Absolutely true about the conga and the clave. I think the piano is tricky as in many songs it doesn't stress the first beat. The cowbell often gives you the first and the third.
+Juan Carlos Corzo Thank you for the comment! Saludos Juan. Please don't forget to check our last video is an invitation to a Live Salsa Class
Thank you Rocky, the clave count is
1&4 67 for clave 3-2
23 5&8 for clave 2-3
It takes time to understand be patient, it take time and practice. It's like learn a new language, at the beginning it's hard to understand but little by little the ear starts recognizing the changes of the sounds.
Joel, How do you distinguish between the 2 and the 6 in the conga? I can hear the 2 and 6 clearly but not sure whether it is 2, 6 , 2, 6 or 6, 2. 6, 2, etc.
Good to know
I am a drummer, and in Salsa music i always listened to the "offbeats", trying to avoid the "one", but feeling it. In fact it seems only the piano plays on the downbeat, while most other instruments, even the bass and vocals, are missing the one. Thats different to brasilian music, i.e. But what i wanted to say, when i had my first rehearsals with Salsa dancing, i found it much easier to listen to the piano and the bass (if you can hear it), instead on all those many rhythm instruments, while dancing. Its giving more relaxed freedom in my opinion.
hola Joel soy Ray Beatg saludos desde Atlanta...tremendos videos..on2 best dancing out there...gracias por tu best input into salsa community lovers.
i play multiple instruments including drums and took salsa classes for 2 years,but i somehow still struggle with feeling the timing of salsa music
Joel really enjoying your videos I dance salsa on 2 here in Sunrise Florida and I noticed that beginners have trouble understanding what to do after the Cun-Cun sound because all of the instruction is focused on the two and on the six if people think of the Cun-Cun sound as the go sound meaning that as soon as you hear that you take step number one in order to get two step number two just a thought on my part it helps me hear the music when I'm dancing
Bro thank you so much for your video. Finally I can be dancing like a salsa king soon enough lol. I'm a musician and a dancer at heart, salsa beat is challenging for me because I'm a ballroom dancer. But you made it where I can understand it now and jump right in not like a crazy white boy. Mucho gracias me Nuevo amigo
@perroverde73 Muchas gracias que bueno que te han gustado los videos, pronto tendremos mas videos online =)
Saludos.
Joel
I was struggling to find the timing as I am a beginner to salsa. This was a great teaching tool for the timing and now I have it. Thank you so much for your help.
+Eddie Dawson Thank you for the comment Eddie, we are going to have more valuable videos, please check the last video! =) Saludos!
Joel this helps so much! Thank you!! ❤
Thanks, Joel for this great tutorial 💃💃💃
muchas gracias Joel, estupenda explicación. Soy fan de tus videos y ya me he suscrito a tu canal.
Great! Helps a lot!
Thank you for your comment, to distinguish the first part of the dancer count we using other instruments like Piano, clave, etc.
Once we detect the 1st beat of the 8 count we will know when is the 2 and 6.
Please search for Dance With Feeling I have more videos there! =)
It's a different feeling when you count than when you only listen to the instruments, try to follow the music without counting your salsa steps and follow the sounds with your steps. Don't give up you will see how one day will click and then you will be able to have the feeling in your dancing as well.
Joel
Cheers for video. I been struggling with timiming in salsa class.
Hi Joel..i would love for you to use your clave (sticks) and play the count Es; 1 and 4 67 ect for the 3-2 and 2-3 claves. Thanks.
This is the video I've been missing!! Thanx!! Makes perfect sense.
12 years later and your video is still prevalent ✌️.
on which number do you make the turn no. 1 or no. 5. Is there a still pictures showing different hand variations. It's hard to follow when the exchanges when dancing
Thank you! please keep trying! Practice is the king to master anything.
How do you know that when you hear the conga is a 2 and not a 6 or viseversa?
Que bueno baila usted , Oscar Deleon. Listen the notes are different on 1
I will be uploading more videos to explain more details about the timing in the salsa music with different instruments like the clave. Thank you for your comment and watching! =)
Very helpful. Thank you
Many thanks for this video; I found it very helpful.
+sal joe Thank you for your comment =) Please check our last video, is an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa Classes Online
It helps a lot thanks!
Great! Thanks. Looking for 'instrument placement in a salsa recording mix' - deadline for submission is TODAY! yikes!
Thank you for your comment and for watching, I'm very happy that you find it helpful.
Clave should be the first one and is the most important, clave set the rhythm of salsa. In this case he explained the rumba clave, which is not the most frequent in salsa. Any way the explanation is really good, I suggest it to find the bass sound it will be the strong beat, and the " Tumbao" .
No, he played son clave, not rumba clave. But you are correct that rumba clave is not common in salsa music.
Very good
Thank you for the explanation. Was really helpful:):)
Great precise information! Thank you
Hello, do you know an app that seperates the instruments?
this is one of the best videos I've seen so far, my question is, can I use the first sound,, can I use the first sound, the piano sound to dance on2 do I have to always use the Conga sound to dance on2? I just seem to have an easier time catching the piano song over the conga... I am currently transitioning into dancing on2
What is the next video You mentioned?
Brilliant, compadre.
Thank you Señor! You broke it down to terms that I finally understood. Thank you!
This was really helpful. Thanks
Thanks for the video. Wonderful explanation and extremely helpful.
Love it
Thank you for watching.
Muchas gracias! Saludos.
what is the name of the first song that came up?
Good day Joel, the most important instrument in what they call Salsa is La clave that Origin is Cuban, also the conga that was created in Cuba. There wouldn’t be salsa without La Clava ! I think you should mention the true origins of the instrument because they are Cuban Origins, remember without either instrument there is no Salsa
Clave rhythm originated in sub-Saharan Africa.
thank you so much, this is really hard for me.
Havin a really hard time hearing that conga as 2 and 6. I keep hearing it as 3 and 7.
That's funny. Because I hear 2 and 4
Thanks
This was really useful :)
+flopski Thank you for your comment =)
Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa
Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline, we will have great information for you!
thanks for this video, was helpful
Thank You so much for making this video :)
+Piotr Jachym Thank you for your comment and for watching our videos! =)
How is the conga slap on two six. It’s two four though? If one bar is 4 beats
Hi!! Can anyone provide the names of the songs demoed (?)
Hi Joel lovely video could you please tell me the name of the software you are using?
¿ No tienen este mismo video hablado en español ? ... ( La gran mayoría de lo salseros es hispano-hablante ) ... Los que no queremos utilizar el idioma Inglés, tenemos que estar pendientes de la traducción mediante subtítulos, lo que nos hace perder la atención de la parte musical, que es lo esencial. ( De todas maneras, felicitaciones a Joel Salsa, pues es muy interesante el tema planteado, dada la importancia del ritmo o pulso en la salsa )
what are the counts of the clave?
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Thx a loooooooooot!
Not understanding the conga. When I try to do the steps on the beat, the first beat matches the first step. And so on..every beat on 123 567. But Joel says it starts at 2?
What is the name of the group and the song used for the piano sample?
Many thanks, this video is awesome! Also what software are you using to separate the music instruments?
loved it! thanks a lot:)
Thank you Abliz for your comment.
+JoelSalsa it's Aynur :)
+Abliz Aynur thank you for the correction, I was looking to tag you on Google plus :-)
From reading the comments below there is a lot of confusion.
The guy is talking East Coast Salsa, which on the West Coast is known as Mambo or salsa on 2. In general musicians are the last guys one should ask about dancing.
what song is that? I like the montuno
So helpfullll!
+yanilka lugo Thank you Yanilka! Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa
Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline, we will have great information for you!
Olvide decirte que ese tun tun pack del tunbao de conga es para clave 3'2 de son montuno y si sales en el tiempo antes del pack estas saliendo en el pulso 2 y no en el pulso6, Te recomiendo el video didactico del maestro Giovanni Hidalgo para comprender la diferencia de el tumbao de congas en tienpo de son montuno 2'3 y 3'2
Name of the song is Que bueno baila usted , Oscar De leon
Is this on 1 or 2?
Hello Ivo the counts for the clave are:
1&4 67 for clave 3-2
23 5&8 for clave 2-3
Thank you for your comment and for watching!
Joel
hi, any one could tell me the name of the second conga song, timing on 2 & 6.
Gracias!
very useful thanx!
+eyukino Thank you =) Please watch our last video it's an invitation to join 2 Live Salsa
Classes Online on Sat, Jan 30th 2016 or find us at MySalsaOnline, we will have great information for you!
Thank u for the post!
:)
Hi. You can click on DanceWithFeeling link above in the description! Thanks!
@Ivo its 2-3..5&8 or
235..&8 I believe
That conga slap was on the 3
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VERY GOOD
+beakf1 Thank you !
The conga beat pattern you used is a four count, so its the 2 and 4 that you counted and not the 2 and 6. To have an eight count you have to use two patterns of congas beat, so then you've got the 2-4-6-8. Anyway i like the video. Greetings
Ehm, no? The 4 and the 8 have this little double tap...
Well, 2468 still keeps the timing.....
But for Dancers the instruction is that they have keep the beats of PAUSE 4 & 8
(6 steps within 8 beats of Music) this is the REAL Problem of Dancers, learning.
not the Music...............
Merci !!
Thank you sir!
donde está la segunda parte?
What count are the cow bells on?
Hello Melikai187 the strongest sounds of the cowbell hit on 1,3,5 & 7
Please let us know if you have any more questions :-)
Joel
I love your accent!
:)
I can count till eight without a rest (between the 7 and the 1)
A talent i cannot😂😂
Timing- moving the hips-its just hard. 123-678- is what I have learned. Are there different estillos differentes paises.
amazing video, super informative and fun! oh and you're really beautiful (irrelevant but true haha!)
If those are 2 and 6 then the rhythm sounds too impossibly fast to dance to - can't even say 1..2..345..6..78 fast enough to keep up with it.
3:07 and this is where you lost me. How is the conga slap here considered to be on 2 and 6, and not on 3 and 7?
Because the conga player starts on 8, and not on 1. I get the confusion. I've been playing a bit of salsa percussion myself, and I still get mixed up about this sometimes.
It seems to be an essential cultural difference between western music and i.e. Cuban music, that they take for granted, that you know this.
I wish that the people making these videos would piont this out, or maybe let the conga figure start on 1 instead of on 8 (or if you only count 4, on 4).