I regularly travelled with my mother from Stepney Station to both Hornsea and Withernsea as a child in the late 1950s. Left school at 4.00 PM and on the train a few minutes later for a couple of hours on the beach. Steam starts coming out of my ears every time the name 'Beeching' is mentioned. Watched this film with tears rolling down my face. Wonderful memories.
Fantastic vintage footage...go back today...and weep? What a wonderful line this would have been had it not been removed? Like all these wonderful backwater lines could have transformed many towns today. Such a pity the lunatics are still running the show today.I was hoping someone would upload this again...many thanks.
I'm working in this area at the moment and have been cycling around a lot during my time off and have become interested in the old lines as I have cycled the Hornsea/Hull old line. It amazes me that these line ran for over a hundred years before their demise nearly 60 years ago. So much track and supporting infrastructure. But I always think of the people who planned and built all this. Who do you call in the mid 19th century and ask to have a rail line built with all the trimmings? Well, it must have all been letters because there wasn't phones. Imagine the logistics of organizing that. And that line is quite insignificant compared to other major lines around the country and people all over the world were going crazy building rail lines all over the place and only a few years really after the steam locomotive was invented. Amazing.
My wife recognised part of this straight away, as the train crossed Holderness Road she used to live in one of the houses on the right. She said her and her siblings used to get on the tracks to get the fallen coal lying around.
Many people miss the pre Beeching lines like I do but apart from the increase in car ownership I never seem to see the 1955 Aslef strike mentioned. It went on for weeks and when work resumed only 50% of freight returned to the railways. Freight of course at that time made a huge income to BR. Perhaps if the freight loss hadn't happened many closures would have been avoided. Ernie Marples didn't help either. A great film, look how neat and tidy the track and lineside are..... all done by hand with picks, rakes and shovels.
It was great when the steam trains came. Just for a few seconds you were in clouds of warm steamy sulphurous smoke, like you were momentarily in the sky. Scary, but fun and giggles...
Sadly I never got to travel on this line. The sheer number of lines and stations on entering Hull is fascinating! So much of industry relied on the railways back then. Such a shame we only have memories and cycle tracks now!
It was very exciting for small kids to get a ride on the new petrol trains - steam was going out in the early 60s. During the school holidays, all the mams would round up the kids off our street and we'd get carted off for a surprise day out. Your mam's bag would hold sandwiches, towels and swimming gear. Kids would carry buckets and spades, balls of various sizes, maybe a homemade cricket bat and stumps. The train would would pull up to a hoard of cheering kids - you'd cheer as the train arrived and cheer as it took off. On the train you'd wave at passersby and they would wave back - that's how friendly people were to one another. There was always something to see at each station and 'I-Spy' was quite a popular pastime on these short train journeys. Timber yards, coal merchants' huts, greenhouses on the railway workers' allotments, all manner of things to gawp at. Bigger kids usually stood near the doors and opened the windows, the variety of smells we encountered conjured up our sense that we were on an adventure! Siblings quibbled as to who would hold the ticket, big sisters usually had this privilege. The fares were very cheap and small kids travelled free. Life was so much richer in feature in years gone by, 21stC life seems quite dull (if safer) in comparison. ;)
Hi love your videos I've lived in hull all my life and really enjoy the history you find. Just wondering if you have done any videos of the old maternity 'metal bridge' and the story of the 7 alleys? Keep up the excellent work pal 😉
I used to travel this line, and the one to Hornsea, in my youth - boarding at the Botanic station. Wonderful memories of traveling in carriages without corridors - too bad if you needed the toilet!
Shadows of the past i guess,how things were and how they came and went. Great footage and great music to accompany this nostalgia trip . April 2021 🙏❤🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧❤🙏
Would've looked very different as an area now I suspect, if this line had stayed open. So many commute to Hull from the East. Presumably this line, like the London commuter lines, would've been the focus of new housing developments and those villages along it would have been a lot bigger than they are now.
I used to catch a DMU from Stepney to Hornsea several times before the line died. In the 70's I cycled both lines. Very sad to see the decay. If I become a billionaire the With. line along with the one to Hornsea will be reopened - but don't hold your breath. What we need is a time machine.
In the mid 90 s, used to cross country run these lines from West Hull. I found it quite a timeless experience for a couple of hours, seeing the old platforms and station houses. One thing that i always remember, going was much more fun then coming back
@@saltspringrailway3683 It is indeed,happy days and adventure, branch railway lines etc! now its gone full circle, the establishment wants everyone back on public transport
I did try to walk one line, for a certain distance anyway, with my father in the 80s but at some point there was a water barrier of a very few meters and with nothing across it enabling continuation. It was the from the line that earlier crossed the Western side of Rockford fields.
If you go on Google Earth, at a suitable height around the Patrington area you can see the shadow of the line crossing fields. The line is long gone but for some reason you can actually see where the trackbed ran. I thought it extraordinary after all these years. You can trace it pretty much all the way to Withernsea...
Rode that line as a child, under steam. Loved to watch the engine turning on the turntable and then nip round to the front of the rake of carriages to start the trip back. DMU's of course eliminated the need for the turntable. All gone now sadly, kinda rang the death knell for Withernsea and Hornsea. I don't think they ever fully recovered. Progress eh? The single platform is still extant, if you know where to look, though it's mostly covered over by later works. The renovators kindly replaced many of the damaged slabs to make the platform look much as it had when in use. So yes, you can stand where the trackbed was (it's much higher now) and the remains of the platform are easily visible...
I would,nt call it dereliction many new houses have been built in the villages since then and probably many more would have if the line was still there look at the huge developments to the west of Hull its saved us from much of this till now.
I slowed it down near the end - watched as it crossed Beverley Road, Duesbery Street, saw Princes Avenue then Botanic Crossing and old Kingston General Hospital. I could have been on that train in 1957 :)
Since you've said you've watched this video a lot I want to inform you that this version is actually stolen and much inferior quality. I'm the original creator of this edit of the video (the original footage of course is copyrighted to Stan Kerman) I spent hours going through the footage frame-by-frame and enhancing it only for this channel to steal it and upload it in inferior quality without even giving me credit for all the work I put in - here's a link to my original version with much higher detail - ruclips.net/video/vZqBq2lLp0E/видео.html If you're wondering why my video is showing as newer than this version it's because the publish date changed when I set the video from Private to Public in the past.
ALW Research Team are currently showing a multipart reconstructional and semi-archealogical series on this erstwhile P-Way on RUclips. Very comprehensive. Thank you. All the best, Philipe (and ALberts). Stay free. Rab 👋🕊
There is a section of the original rails crossing a road somewhere out in one of the villages. When the trackbed was removed, the part crossing the road was left in place and the ends hacked off with a gas cutter. It's a part of the single line from memory, and an exiting find. My wife thought I'd gone barmy when I found and photographed it. I have the picture somewhere if anyone is interested...
@@duncangrant4580 Ok Duncan, well, I was well off on the location. It looks like it is located on the road from Saltend roundabout through to Preston. Halfway down the road there is the old railway crossing location marked by a green fence either side of the road. From Google Street view you can't actually see the remnants of the rail, you'd have to go in person and explore. I found it almost by accident and took a pic. I'll look through my pix, it's in there somewhere. If you happen to be local you could find it easily enough... Leave it with me Duncan I'll have a look, it's probably on a stick...
@@duncangrant4580 That's great Duncan, you'll find it easily. I remember thinking at the time I was examining the remains that I've ridden on these very rails as a child, when my gran uses to take me to the "seaside." I've been going through my sticks but haven't found it as yet. On the same stick there is a picture of the remains of one of those white crossing gates either before or after Patrington. I took those pictures in 2004. When we were in the UK in 2018 the gate had gone sadly...
This is most likely down Staithes Lane. The road from Saltend Roundabout towards Preston. There are other bits of rail visible near Burstwick aswell. Good hunting!!😊
That was absolutely fascinating. How I wish it had been at real-time speed, but that would've been shot with an old cine-camera - possibly 8mm - and would've likely been prohibitively expensive to get developed. The battery would've gone flat as well. I suspect that's why it didn't seem to stop at the village stations en-route, the camera was probably switched off as the train slowed. I'm assuming it was from the cab of a diesel engine as well, in order to get such an unobstructed view. Notice the kids all gathered atop of the footbridges at Southcoates/Holderness Road and (I think) Botanic Gardens/Spring Bank, to have the train whizz under their feet, and a whole host of landmarks mostly now gone - notably the big cooling tower at Bankside/Stoneferry (?). However, that single-storey wooden building in Paragon Station is still there, I think, and the heavy iron fence and gates that separated the platforms from the concourse and where tickets were checked. Though a fancy turnstile affair was installed this year. Very many thanks for the memories. The evocative dreamy music was also rather apt...
I live near the old railway line in Hedon.It is a shame they got writ of this destroy the past and the future by lunatics who should have never been in charge of anything.
I have the original footage on DVD with narration. Trust me, the guy drones on and on, so the music is in some ways better. He names all the stations and some local history...
To be honest I suspect the Hornsea line would have gone anyway even without the Beeching Report, there's no industry on the route and the majority of the stations served small villages, once the pick up freights ended I can't see there would have been enough traffic to justify keeping it. The Withernsea line in my view had more potential as it served larger places
Stan showed me the original many years ago, there is no real time copy of this now. This is a poor copy and the music is terrible, not a good tribute to Stan, the cameras view is from a DMU. there are better 'copies' on YT.
@@esspeecy That's because this video is stolen from my account and re-uploaded. This is one I actually enhanced and uploaded myself but this channel owner ripped it and uploaded it in inferior quality, I wouldn't even mind if I was at least credited for the hours I spent going through frame-by-frame enhancing it manually. Here is a link to my version in 1080p - ruclips.net/video/vZqBq2lLp0E/видео.html
My Grandad was the signal man at Patrington, he's on this film happy memories as a young boy visiting
I regularly travelled with my mother from Stepney Station to both Hornsea and Withernsea as a child in the late 1950s. Left school at 4.00 PM and on the train a few minutes later for a couple of hours on the beach. Steam starts coming out of my ears every time the name 'Beeching' is mentioned. Watched this film with tears rolling down my face. Wonderful memories.
same for me someone should of shot beaching rotten so and so there was no need for it
He should replace Guy Faulks on bonfire night...
Wonderful stuff
Fantastic vintage footage...go back today...and weep? What a wonderful line this would have been had it not been removed? Like all these wonderful backwater lines could have transformed many towns today. Such a pity the lunatics are still running the show today.I was hoping someone would upload this again...many thanks.
Lunatics?
Transformed them into what monster housing estates.
Thanks. Nice to see a film shot in the year I was born :))
I'm working in this area at the moment and have been cycling around a lot during my time off and have become interested in the old lines as I have cycled the Hornsea/Hull old line. It amazes me that these line ran for over a hundred years before their demise nearly 60 years ago.
So much track and supporting infrastructure. But I always think of the people who planned and built all this. Who do you call in the mid 19th century and ask to have a rail line built with all the trimmings? Well, it must have all been letters because there wasn't phones. Imagine the logistics of organizing that. And that line is quite insignificant compared to other major lines around the country and people all over the world were going crazy building rail lines all over the place and only a few years really after the steam locomotive was invented. Amazing.
My wife recognised part of this straight away, as the train crossed Holderness Road she used to live in one of the houses on the right. She said her and her siblings used to get on the tracks to get the fallen coal lying around.
Relations of mine lived in Westcott street, always loved East Park
Many people miss the pre Beeching lines like I do but apart from the increase in car ownership I never seem to see the 1955 Aslef strike mentioned. It went on for weeks and when work resumed only 50% of freight returned to the railways. Freight of course at that time made a huge income to BR. Perhaps if the freight loss hadn't happened many closures would have been avoided. Ernie Marples didn't help either. A great film, look how neat and tidy the track and lineside are..... all done by hand with picks, rakes and shovels.
Marples and Beeching were in league. Together, they wiped out over 100,000 jobs, 5000 miles of track and 2000 stations...
All those footbridges where you could watch the train pass under you.Ah,I wish I had been alive in those days.
It was great when the steam trains came. Just for a few seconds you were in clouds of warm steamy sulphurous smoke, like you were momentarily in the sky. Scary, but fun and giggles...
As Jim Bowen used to say......look what you could have had. Sadly all history now. Love the sound track.
Sadly I never got to travel on this line.
The sheer number of lines and stations on entering Hull is fascinating!
So much of industry relied on the railways back then.
Such a shame we only have memories and cycle tracks now!
It was very exciting for small kids to get a ride on the new petrol trains - steam was going out in the early 60s. During the school holidays, all the mams would round up the kids off our street and we'd get carted off for a surprise day out. Your mam's bag would hold sandwiches, towels and swimming gear. Kids would carry buckets and spades, balls of various sizes, maybe a homemade cricket bat and stumps. The train would would pull up to a hoard of cheering kids - you'd cheer as the train arrived and cheer as it took off. On the train you'd wave at passersby and they would wave back - that's how friendly people were to one another. There was always something to see at each station and 'I-Spy' was quite a popular pastime on these short train journeys. Timber yards, coal merchants' huts, greenhouses on the railway workers' allotments, all manner of things to gawp at. Bigger kids usually stood near the doors and opened the windows, the variety of smells we encountered conjured up our sense that we were on an adventure! Siblings quibbled as to who would hold the ticket, big sisters usually had this privilege. The fares were very cheap and small kids travelled free. Life was so much richer in feature in years gone by, 21stC life seems quite dull (if safer) in comparison. ;)
I agree I'd of loved to of seen it in its prime
Hi love your videos I've lived in hull all my life and really enjoy the history you find. Just wondering if you have done any videos of the old maternity 'metal bridge' and the story of the 7 alleys?
Keep up the excellent work pal 😉
I used to travel this line, and the one to Hornsea, in my youth - boarding at the Botanic station. Wonderful memories of traveling in carriages without corridors - too bad if you needed the toilet!
Shadows of the past i guess,how things were and how they came and went. Great footage and great music to accompany this nostalgia trip . April 2021 🙏❤🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧❤🙏
I recognised the route into Hull as it left Hedon, passed Greatfield, Marfleet and so on.
Would've looked very different as an area now I suspect, if this line had stayed open. So many commute to Hull from the East. Presumably this line, like the London commuter lines, would've been the focus of new housing developments and those villages along it would have been a lot bigger than they are now.
I walked this line from Hull to With' a few years ago. I like this video and the accompanying music
I was 8 when this film was shot and the train passed by the end of our garden at Westerdale Grove, near Southcoates Lane bridge
Fabulous.
I used to catch a DMU from Stepney to Hornsea several times before the line died. In the 70's I cycled both lines. Very sad to see the decay. If I become a billionaire the With. line along with the one to Hornsea will be reopened - but don't hold your breath. What we need is a time machine.
In the mid 90 s, used to cross country run these lines from West Hull. I found it quite a timeless experience for a couple of hours, seeing the old platforms and station houses. One thing that i always remember, going was much more fun then coming back
@@phillipr61 In the 70's I cycled both lines. Very sad to see the decay.
@@saltspringrailway3683 It is indeed,happy days and adventure, branch railway lines etc! now its gone full circle, the establishment wants everyone back on public transport
You tube is a time machine !
I did try to walk one line, for a certain distance anyway, with my father in the 80s but at some point there was a water barrier of a very few meters and with nothing across it enabling continuation. It was the from the line that earlier crossed the Western side of Rockford fields.
If you go on Google Earth, at a suitable height around the Patrington area you can see the shadow of the line crossing fields. The line is long gone but for some reason you can actually see where the trackbed ran. I thought it extraordinary after all these years. You can trace it pretty much all the way to Withernsea...
I've just done this and yeah you're right there are points along the old line where you can see dark lines across fields
It's been turned into a public foot/cyclepath. As far as I'm aware you can go from Courtney Street all the way to Withernsea...
Rode that line as a child, under steam. Loved to watch the engine turning on the turntable and then nip round to the front of the rake of carriages to start the trip back. DMU's of course eliminated the need for the turntable. All gone now sadly, kinda rang the death knell for Withernsea and Hornsea. I don't think they ever fully recovered. Progress eh? The single platform is still extant, if you know where to look, though it's mostly covered over by later works. The renovators kindly replaced many of the damaged slabs to make the platform look much as it had when in use. So yes, you can stand where the trackbed was (it's much higher now) and the remains of the platform are easily visible...
Beeching has a lot to answer for,not least the dereliction of Withernsea, Hornsea and all the villages in between.
Every time I hear the name Beeching my language becomes extremely colourful. I am sure there is a special place in Hell for that man.
I would,nt call it dereliction many new houses have been built in the villages since then and probably many more would have if the line was still there look at the huge developments to the west of Hull its saved us from much of this till now.
@@sixtyshippee Some commuters from nearer villages, but the coast is further out.
Superb time travel is possible !
we used go from Marfleet Lane station Hull Great video
I slowed it down near the end - watched as it crossed Beverley Road, Duesbery Street, saw Princes Avenue then Botanic Crossing and old Kingston General Hospital. I could have been on that train in 1957 :)
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Wonderful to see it.
I never got to use the route, thanks for sharing.
Folks complain about the music. I've kinda grown into it, I watch this video a lot. Only memory we have left...
Since you've said you've watched this video a lot I want to inform you that this version is actually stolen and much inferior quality. I'm the original creator of this edit of the video (the original footage of course is copyrighted to Stan Kerman) I spent hours going through the footage frame-by-frame and enhancing it only for this channel to steal it and upload it in inferior quality without even giving me credit for all the work I put in - here's a link to my original version with much higher detail - ruclips.net/video/vZqBq2lLp0E/видео.html If you're wondering why my video is showing as newer than this version it's because the publish date changed when I set the video from Private to Public in the past.
@@cdlink14 That's quite shameful. You should certainly be credited...
ALW Research Team are currently showing a multipart reconstructional and semi-archealogical series on this erstwhile P-Way on RUclips. Very comprehensive.
Thank you. All the best, Philipe (and ALberts). Stay free. Rab 👋🕊
There is a section of the original rails crossing a road somewhere out in one of the villages. When the trackbed was removed, the part crossing the road was left in place and the ends hacked off with a gas cutter. It's a part of the single line from memory, and an exiting find. My wife thought I'd gone barmy when I found and photographed it. I have the picture somewhere if anyone is interested...
I share your enthusiasm for such finds! Would love to see the photo. Which village?
@@duncangrant4580 Ok Duncan, well, I was well off on the location. It looks like it is located on the road from Saltend roundabout through to Preston. Halfway down the road there is the old railway crossing location marked by a green fence either side of the road. From Google Street view you can't actually see the remnants of the rail, you'd have to go in person and explore. I found it almost by accident and took a pic. I'll look through my pix, it's in there somewhere. If you happen to be local you could find it easily enough...
Leave it with me Duncan I'll have a look, it's probably on a stick...
@@logotrikes I live the other side of Hull (Kingswood), so I'll drive over that way one evening. Thanks for the info!
@@duncangrant4580 That's great Duncan, you'll find it easily. I remember thinking at the time I was examining the remains that I've ridden on these very rails as a child, when my gran uses to take me to the "seaside." I've been going through my sticks but haven't found it as yet. On the same stick there is a picture of the remains of one of those white crossing gates either before or after Patrington. I took those pictures in 2004. When we were in the UK in 2018 the gate had gone sadly...
This is most likely down Staithes Lane. The road from Saltend Roundabout towards Preston. There are other bits of rail visible near Burstwick aswell. Good hunting!!😊
That was absolutely fascinating. How I wish it had been at real-time speed, but that would've been shot with an old cine-camera - possibly 8mm - and would've likely been prohibitively expensive to get developed. The battery would've gone flat as well. I suspect that's why it didn't seem to stop at the village stations en-route, the camera was probably switched off as the train slowed. I'm assuming it was from the cab of a diesel engine as well, in order to get such an unobstructed view. Notice the kids all gathered atop of the footbridges at Southcoates/Holderness Road and (I think) Botanic Gardens/Spring Bank, to have the train whizz under their feet, and a whole host of landmarks mostly now gone - notably the big cooling tower at Bankside/Stoneferry (?). However, that single-storey wooden building in Paragon Station is still there, I think, and the heavy iron fence and gates that separated the platforms from the concourse and where tickets were checked. Though a fancy turnstile affair was installed this year. Very many thanks for the memories. The evocative dreamy music was also rather apt...
All that infrastructure torn up! Thank's Beecham!
Beeching...
I wonder of they kept this line on today what it would do for the east coast would it benefit or not
The buses would likely be withdrawn...
Thank you, P B. To ALberts!.
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It's a big ask, but is there anyone out there who can put footage times against stations? Particularly interested in Keyingham station. Cheers
If you drop the Playback speed to 0.25 there is so much more to see.
What happened to all the station name's that used to be on this video?
I thought this too...I was sure I watched this years ago but it was much smoother and then slowed down to allow for the station name to appear
At what time is Burstwick/Ryehill station? Cheers.....
Wish it could be slowed down to real time.
Earnest Marples... You have a lot to answer for....
Hiya... Is there a normal speed version of this video... nice video thanks
Apology if you already know but you can reduce and speed up vids on you tube.
I live near the old railway line in Hedon.It is a shame they got writ of this destroy the past and the future by lunatics who should have never been in charge of anything.
Would have been nice to name each station when passing through.
I have the original footage on DVD with narration. Trust me, the guy drones on and on, so the music is in some ways better. He names all the stations and some local history...
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It is a line that never should have been closed. Government and council IGNORANCE and serious LACK OF FORESIGHT.
Would have been nice in normal time speed , without that awful music.
I was on a train to Hull, and some guy came to me and said "Come on, kill me!".
How very strange. Did you...?
The trains should never been done away with they should have found another way without cutting the people off as they where of no accountability
To be honest I suspect the Hornsea line would have gone anyway even without the Beeching Report, there's no industry on the route and the majority of the stations served small villages, once the pick up freights ended I can't see there would have been enough traffic to justify keeping it. The Withernsea line in my view had more potential as it served larger places
Stan showed me the original many years ago, there is no real time copy of this now. This is a poor copy and the music is terrible, not a good tribute to Stan, the cameras view is from a DMU. there are better 'copies' on YT.
Yeah I thought there was a smoother version that I saw years ago, this video quality is poor
@@esspeecy That's because this video is stolen from my account and re-uploaded. This is one I actually enhanced and uploaded myself but this channel owner ripped it and uploaded it in inferior quality, I wouldn't even mind if I was at least credited for the hours I spent going through frame-by-frame enhancing it manually. Here is a link to my version in 1080p - ruclips.net/video/vZqBq2lLp0E/видео.html