Old Yorkshire: Bransholme Castle
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- The history of Castle Hill, between Swine and Sutton in East Yorkshire, very likely the site of Branceholm (Bransholme) Castle, owned by John de Sutton in the 1340s!
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My childhood was spent playing on here and being chased off by the farmer, great times.....this is also were my love for history and historical sites was born. Thank you for a great video.
No worries, glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastic video I've always felt a great mystery surrounded that hill.
Played there as a child and fished the drain many a time.
Well done on digging up as much information as you could 👏
But still the enigma remains.
I remember playing there 30 plus years ago. You made nm cry. Thanks x
I seen a ghost of a lady on castle hill we used to play on ther as kids the storys we got told and the history of this place is ace
I wonder if pumpy is still ther over the feilds on north bransholme
Whilst in lockdown, we live close by so went for a walk along the Hull-Hornsea line today for the 1st time and past that site. Never knew it existed or the story behind it. Great video.
It's a lovely walk through some great countryside. When lockdown starts lifting a bit I'll be covering some other good walks along old railway lines in the area too!
This is where I lived growing up my brother still lives down there
Thanx again 👍
Yes I used to play here when I was a kid. I'm 61 now, we lived on bransholme on biggin ave. Which I believe was the first street built on bransholme, or that area was. Used to bike to hornsea down that track many times. Caught a 2lb roach from near the pumping station on the canal. Used to be full of eels near castle hill. I moved away when I was I think about 16 years old. I've just come across your channel, I will watch your other videos in time. I was born in east hull on holderness road, on kent street as it was.
i go there aswell it was it is beutiful
I never knew of Bransholme Castle despite living in Hull for the first 21 years of my life.
Wow! That was absolutely fascinating! If I had had history teachers like that when I was at school I would have taken more notice! We often used to go to Sutton in the 1950's/60's and sometimes get the train to Hornsea or go for a walk up Castle Hill Road and my Dad used to mention Castle Hill. Thank you!
You're welcome! And I've always felt that history curriculums in schools aren't exactly built for exciting young people about history - they seem designed to dip quite the opposite!
@@hullhistorynerd - as I've got older I have become really interested in this sort of history - what was that building used for, who lived there, what was there, etc? Especially since I found out that my ancestors used to own Frothingham Hall.
Used to play on there on bikes as a kid, it was like a mini Beverley Westwood! Not as good as Little Switzerland though! All of your videos bring back childhood memories! 😁 You love The Holy Grail too then!! 😂😂
How can you *not* love Python?!
Another very interesting piece, thank you.
Looking forward to the next one.
Great video
Often Fished this Drain we called it Marfleet drain being from east Hull . Castle Hill was a Excellent Motorcycle Scrambling venue in the 50s watched Many good races there all the 2 stroke bikes the smell was wonderful ,.
Thank you for making these documentaries. You take me back to where I grew-up. I too lived on Longhill, and can remember walking out to Castle Hill and trying to imagine it's history.
Glad you enjoyed, it's been a place I was fascinated by since I was a kid, was a real pleasure to dig into its history and find that it might well have been an actual castle!
I use to play on that hill as a kid and i never knew it's history fantastic work 👍
As a kid I would ride my bike over Castle Hill, we are talking early 70's so it was not a mountain bike, no it was my sister's Raleigh Shopper
Very enjoyable video .. I live overlooking the castle site and see it every morning from our bedroom .. 👍
A very interesting video. I've always wondered what the history was of castle hill.
Thanks for sharing
I found something in the ground next to this site as a kid . makes sense now because of this so thanks.👍im also a longhill lad originally 👍
Hi. Really enjoyed the blog. I too have a tremendous interest in history. I visited Humberside in September and there is an effigy of one the Sutton members in st Mary's swine. Sir Thomas Suttons daughter constanlce married sir Robert Hilton lord of swine and winestead. Effigies of Hilton also exist in the church. Unfortunately so far I've been unable to identify the whereabouts the Hilton's of swine / winestead/ holderness manor was. Yours Jordon Tinniswood (Hylton castle Sunderland research group volunteer)
Thanks for an interesting video. The drain used to be a popular swimming place in my youth and the fields were a good source of mushrooms!
Enjoyed that. I live in Sutton and have walked and cycled down the old line a few times, didn't know any of this. Will make an effort to watch more of these vids.
Great history lesson ! Thank you
Excellent, thank you. 👌💕
As a child me and my late dad would take metal detectors to this site. We'd always return home with something. Arrow heads, bits of chain mail. Couple of coins. It's a wonderful place. You can see exactly where people whacked pick axes and shovels it's a stunning site. Literally in the middle of nowhere. Hope it does get a proper archaeological survey at some point. There's a lot to discover there.
Luckily, a few months after I made this video, the Yorkshire Post took an interest in the site, and so did the Environment Agency, who have plans to open up the site with information boards! I'm not saying my video highlighted the site or anything but.... 😀
The mic looks like a mini me , nice accent by the way
Fantastic historical information.
On the death, without issue, of his elder brother, John, Lord Sutton of Holderness, in 1356, Sir Thomas Sutton had not only succeeded to the family title, but had also gained control of extensive estates centred upon the manors of Atwick, Bransholme, Sutton and Southcotes to the north-east of Kingston-upon-Hull. He died in about 1384, leaving three daughters, who divided the inheritance between them. Not long after her marriage to Sir John Godard, Constance, the eldest, received her purparty, which, at a conservative estimate, produced approximately £88 a year, and also provided her with an impressive residence at Bransholme castle, the ancestral seat of the Suttons. Learn more at The History of Parliament - www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/godard-sir-john-1346-1392#footnote1_0gosy8e [I am a descendant of Constance Sutton]
We had horses on the farm that owned it all unfortunately the farm is demolished now the horses used to use all the hill and go into the water next to it
This is a lovely clip and well presented. Hopefully it may help serve to inspire the archaeologists to go and help shed some more light on its story.
Oddly enough, since I uploaded this video the Environment Agency has decided to safeguard the site! I like to think the someone somewhere saw this video and realised that the site was of some interest.
www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/heritage-and-retro/heritage/the-fascinating-800-year-old-castle-mound-off-the-hornsea-rail-trail-which-is-being-opened-up-to-cyclists-and-horseriders-3188293
@@hullhistorynerd You're probably right. Please consider a clip that discusses the massive importance that Hull held to the Parliamentarians during the English Civil War? If not for Hull holding out in 1643 when the rest of Yorkshire was over run, I reckon Parliament would've lost.
Subscribed, came across your channel last night and watched every video been a local ULL lad really enjoyed them and taking wife and kids to Castle Hill over the weekend, keep up the great work
Thanks, really glad you've enjoyed them so far! New videos are on their way; this weekend there's one about Scott Street Bridge and Hull's pioneering hydraulic power system!
@@hullhistorynerd looking forward to it I love hull and I love its ritch history
Would love to see a ww2 hull history doc done
My wife's Uncle has found several items around the Hedon area. all of it is in the Hedon Museum. Roman coins, jewelry and pottery. Worth a look if you are in the area.
Very interesting to know, thanks!
Castle Hill Farm was adjacent not far from there. Very interesting video, keep up the good work 👍
Hi Jim,
I grew up on Neatshead Garth and this was my stomping ground as a kid. My mates and I would swim and fish in the drain. I always remember my brother and I building a den in the bushes during winter when it was thick snow, one of the only times we actually spent some quality one on one time together. Like you, I always wondered what was actually here.
Interestingly, it sounds like there's a real possibility of some archaeological work happening there in the next year or two, partly as a result of this video! Hopefully something comes of it - if it does, I will be there, finding out what they've found and making a video about it!
@@hullhistorynerd I really hope so!
We used to find cannonballs? there sometimes, and used them for games of marbles, biggest bolley in the yard!!
Wow! Might have been from 1918 and the soldiers who dug the practice trench. I used to have a massive bolley like that when I was young, I always assumed it was a ball bearing, would be awesome if it was a shot from a cannon!
@@hullhistorynerd Early 70's they used to turn up in the schoolyard every so often, and they always came from castle hill. Found one myself, about the size of a cricket ball.
Great video like your others I enjoy your laid back relaxed approach
I can't understand why there as not been a survey since as you mentioned by the soldiers. Wasn't the soldiers trench dug by the curater from the Hull museums?
I have lived in the area all my life and unfortunately it's biggest threat now is its use for a motorbike track
It does seem like an area ripe for a proper modern archeological survey, that's for sure!
I live in Cottingham now, down George street so will be interested to watch your vids on Cottingham snickets
My friend used to live down castle hill road, and we used to play around on that hill.
I heard rumours that someone with a metal detector found gold coins in/around the hill. Not sure if it's true though.
Definitely learned something new though.
That would be very interesting to know if they did. That place so badly needs a good archeological investigation!
@@hullhistorynerd Agreed. I believe their is much more to it.
It is illegal to metal detect on a scheduled monument and any finds should be reported to the local PA officer.
@@stephenmudiecastles.2938 Very true, there have been some huge fines dished out for people not reporting finds.
For the longest time I stayed away from elderberries thanks to Monty Python. Not that elderberries were difficult to avoid. Nonetheless, I found elderberry tea at a local shop recently, gave it a try, and lived to tell the tale!
Would love it if you researched the old Monerstry that used to be around Noddle Hill nature reserve in Hull , even put wooden monks there now ...just don't know where abouts it was ..but intrigues me 😍🙏
Already have! Check out my channel for the video on Meaux Abbey.
Nice python reference!
You have to put a Python reference into at least one video about castles, I feel.
misskittysmith I’d say we both love all things East Yorkshire, and I’m; whisper it; from Lincolnshire! But my mother was from Roos, and yes, I’ve seen Hull and much of this part of England change out of all recognition since I was a child. Nice to have this series. Now who else remembers the Humber Ferries? A real adventure at times on those paddle boats...
Good and interesting but I wasn't expecting to see or hear of a round barrow on the flats near Swine. I'm no expert at all but in my days of A' Level archaeology, I did a survey of the round barrows at Market Weighton (still think my survey sits in Humberside sites and monuments record office, or at least that's where my teacher Peter said it would end up), but I remember that the characteristic or round barrow placement was on high ground, as barrow beneficiaries were deemed important and required their barrow to command a fantastic panoramic view. I remember plotting their placement over the east riding and north Yorkshire and all were on high ground, so this really interested me. I'm not contesting it at all, it's just something I missed back then (1996).
Yes, I was quite surprised too! Apparently there's nothing visible above ground but it's a bowl barrow. I'll look up the details for you when I get back to my PC!
Here you go, some info on that bowl barrow!
ancientmonuments.uk/106253-round-barrow-300m-south-of-castle-hill-farm-wawne
I found an old archaeological survey of this area a few years ago and a few barrows were listed in the flat lands around Hull. They were apparently still visible in the 60s but when I went to check them out a decade ago they had been obliterated.
@@nodarkthings Yeah, the report says that there is very little visible on the surface for this particular barrow, that the real info is all underground. I certainly had difficulty seeing anything more than a vague rise in the ground when I was there.
@@nodarkthings yes, the many round barrows ar arras near market weighton were nothing more than a slight raising of the land even 25 years ago. I found it odd that any were built on flat lands, it tends not to be the case
When I was a kid I lived off Preston Road. We used to walk along the drain bank until we reached Castle Hill, but I always got confused with Castle Hill in Cottingham. I would love to know the story of Holderness drain and the canal connection. I have something in the back of my mind with regard to that but I can't remember what it is.
There was originally a plan to canalise Holderness Drain (and, I think, Barmston, though I'm not 100% sure on that) which is why it was dug so wide compared to most of the existing drains like the Cottingham beck, or the Foredyke Stream, but it never happened.
@@hullhistorynerd Thanks for that. I am going back 60 years and Holderness drain was probably 30% larger than it is today. Underground man made drainage along with sediment has reduced it's size dramatically, but I could easily imagine canal boats in there when I was young. Probably my imagination or perhaps my parents educating me. Love your videos by the way especially the story of the river Hull changing direction near Albert Dock to Sammy's point. I thought I knew most things about Hull but I didn't know that.
Ah, I'm afraid that might just be what I like to call the 'young memory' effect; everything looks bigger to us as children because we're only small. I have this issue with my childhood memories of North Bridge, which I know for sure hasn't got any smaller since it was built in the 1930s, yet I seem to remember it being impossibly huge! Holderness Drain is the same size now as it has been for most of it's life, give or take the odd bit of local landscaping. You can tell by looking at the width of the bridges over it, almost all of which are a century or older, that the channel hasn't been infilled to make it any narrower.
@@hullhistorynerd Naaah. It was like the Rio Grande when I was a lad.
HDM has featured this place today and it look like they have lifted all your information without giving you any credit.
Quelle surprise. Maybe it was a quiet day on Twitter for their news?
Never heard of this Castle ? And yes it is crying out for a thorough acheological investigation. This area is rich in history but seems to be ignored by the toffs ?
Have you done Paul Holme? My ancestors came from there
Nothing yet, I'm afraid!
Reset that's been wiped out of the annals of time
Great video. Love your work. Did Drogo have a son and did he do anything useful like disposing of unwanted jewellery? :) :)
To the best of my knowledge Drogo was childless, but it being the MIddle Ages it's hard to say for sure, the only records of him are in the Domesday Book and some chronicles of Fountains Abbey. It's entirely possible that there were some illegitimate little Drogos out there!
Hull History Nerd Thanks for the info. Sorry, that was my lame attempt at humour having seen your Lord of the Rings reference in another video. Frodo was the son of Drogo - Tolkien borrowed several names from that era - Drogo, Odo etc.
@@jslonisch D'oh, I totally missed that reference! Of course he was!😂
hi were can i find written evidence for this area if some exist please thinking library or hull uni ????? please and thank you
The sources I used to make the video all cite the following common references;
Page, W, The Victoria History of the County of Yorkshire, (1912), p23
Poulson, G, History and Antiquities of Holderness, (1841), p326-331
Shephard, T, 'ERAST' in The Castle, Swine, , Vol. 23, (1920)
Turner, Maurice, 2004, Yorkshire Castles: Exploring Historic Yorkshire (Otley: Westbury Publishing) p. 248
Kent, G.H.R., 2002, 'Middle division: Swine' VCH Yorkshire: East Riding Vol. 7
Salter, Mike, 2001, The Castles and Tower Houses of Yorkshire (Malvern: Folly Publications) p. 103
Ingham, Bernard, 2001, Bernard Ingham's Yorkshire Castles (Dalesman) p. 17
Emery, Anthony, 1996, Greater Medieval Houses of England and Wales Vol. 1 Northern England (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press) p. 421
Neave, Susan, 1991, Medieval Parks of East Yorkshire (Univeristy of Hull) p. 52
King, D.J.C., 1983, Castellarium Anglicanum (London: Kraus) Vol. 2 p. 527
Loughlin, Neil and Miller, Keith, 1979, A survey of archaeological sites in Humberside carried out for the Humberside Joint Archaeological Committee p. 37
Illingworth, J.L., 1938 (republished 1970), Yorkshire's Ruined Castles (Wakefield) p. 131
Armitage and Montgomerie, 1912, in Page, Wm (ed), VCH Yorkshire Vol. 2 p. 22-3
Blashill, 1900, Sutton-in-Holderness (London)
Turner, T.H. and Parker, J.H., 1859, Some account of Domestic Architecture in England (Oxford) Vol. 3 Part 2 p. 415
Hull History Centre library would be a good starting point to finding physical copies of the works.
thank you
You sound a bit out of breath
I was walking up and down a lot of bibbly hills!
Music quality is terrible
Um... thanks?