**I hadn't seen Trey the Explainer's video before or during the production of this but feel like we cover the same topic in very different ways. Go check out their video as well! ruclips.net/video/MBg8tQvATIA/видео.html
This show forever changed the way I write stories. Over the garden wall is one of the best written shows I’ve ever seen and because of that as an aspiring film director and writer I think you’ll see a lot of parallels between this show and my work.
"I read Shakespeare so naturally you'll see a lot of parallels between the most celebrated writer in human history and my work." You genuinely didn't feel ashamed to type that comment bro? Really think about how narcissistic that sounds, considering none of us have ever read your work. Really weirdly egotistical shit homie.
The fact i watched a video essay reminding me of one of the most gruesum depictions of hell and the guy who wrote it so i can better understand a video about a childrens show is up there in strange situations ive put myself in
i didnt realize this vid had prerequisite reading requirements, lol! i found it incomprehensible but i appreciated your enthusiasm. as mostly an outsider to both series, i would have liked to been spoonfed more about how otgw parallels to dantes inferno rather than getting blasted with analysis on how amazing the parallels are, but i assume i'm not part of your target audience. i felt like i had accidentally walked into a level 2 class without having taken level 1, however this video plays as a wonderful niche passion spiel
“Through me you pass into the city of woe: Through me you pass into eternal pain: Through me among the people lost for aye. Justice the founder of my fabric moved: To rear me was the task of power divine, Supremest wisdom, and primeval love. Before me things create were none, save things Eternal, and eternal I shall endure. All hope abandon, ye who enter here.” I think the idea of hopelessness gets a bad rap when discussed in terms of the Divine Comedy. Yes, the gates declare one should abandon all hope for where you are entering is hopeless, but it's also implied through the theology that while discarding your hope is the only way through hell, if any at all, but it is all in accordance to a divine plan. You can interpret that as solely religious, but for me it's much more indicative of nature as a whole. For me it reads more as, "If you're here, you know why. Let's get on with the ramifications, and try not to complain because you had a choice." So while with "unaliving yourself" discussions are ripe for picking with the source material, I think there's more nuance about the topic in the Divine Comedy than people may give it credit for. Afterall, the whole inscription on the gate's of hell allude to the idea that love and wisdom were instilled in the whole of everything, including Hell. For me what Inferno says about self harm is very poignant and I read and studied the story when I was near my lowest point in life and fiddling with spirituality and it clicked for me what the gates of hell were trying to say(to me) when thinking about the people formed as trees. Over the Garden wall is a phenomenal story and did Inferno many justices, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that one handled such a sensitive topic better than the other. Maybe perhaps that one is more appropriate for children with their limited life experiences and the other speaks to the reader in unabated terms.
I love this show and I love so much that each year people make more reviews and analyses! I froth at the mouth for these kinda discussions! Thanks so much for making this, my little literature nerd heart is happy
This video is giving me a whole new lens to watch Over the Garden Wall with this year. I'm also curious about the influence of Americana inspired by Dante like Hawthorne and Melville... The show has a very 19th century Americana feel that I really savor when homesick (living outside the states)
As a parent who loves this show, how old were you when you watched it? I can’t wait to share it with him one day but I know it’s a bit creepy for youngins
@@lauracgc oh mannn its so hard to say, was ahile ago, I think the best age to enjoy it would be around 14-16 age range. Thats just around how old I was when I watched it. I think you could watch it at 12 or 13 tho, depends on the person.
Love this and TREY the Explainer's video. Both of you talk about the same theory but far different aspects. A real testament to how much material, interpretation, and relatability there still is in an over 700 year old story.
@@10KProductionsso I actually would like your opinion on this. The "wolf" that chases the boys is an obvious reference to the shewolf from the original story. What I am wondering is when it transforms back into a dog it looks very similar to Beatrice's dog in the cartoon's intro. I'm wondering if that in of itself too is a reference back to the original story as well. I just know in the original story Beatrice was a huge instigator in the trials themselves and maybe this is a reference to that. Idk I might be seeing something that's not actually there.
First video of yours that I get to watch, and I can say that this was great! I'll have to get some more of your videos apparently. Keep up the good work!
Also, in the inferno, lucifer is actually trapped in the deepest circle of hell buried in ice, just like the beast, who is more trapped than any of the people he turns to trees in the unknown.
I really love this anaylsis of OTGW. It's one of my favorites and a tradition for me to watch it every year during spoopy season (and then over and over again throughout Fall and Winter). Also from this, I guess I only read a small section of Dante's inferno when I was in school. I never heard of Beatrice in there. Thanks to this video I'm gonna read it in its entirety
It would have been great if in Dante's inferno he eventually said "hey all of this is bullshit yeah?" And went off and did his own thing or fought god and the devil or something.
While interesting, the connections are rather tenuous, especially when you take Greg to be Virgil. It’s based on broad strokes and a general misreading of Virgil’s character from Inferno and Purgatorio.
Bro I’m so glad I’m not the only one. I could see OTGW is “Inspired by” or “makes references” to the inferno (‘I awoke to find myself in a dark wood’, beatrice are 2 examples). But saying it’s a “retelling” is a stretch. Everyone I know who tells me about the OTGW/Inferno connection invariably starts with “I haven’t read inferno but…”
@@mikewhiteside4750with the way Virgil dies in Dante’s inferno it’s a fitting reimagining for him through Greg. “In Dante's "Inferno," the character of Virgil is condemned to live in Limbo because he lived before the time of Christ and therefore could not have been baptized. In Christian theology, baptism is seen as necessary for salvation, and those who lived before the time of Christ were believed to be unable to enter Heaven.” So for as harsh this is, it’s a better reimagining for Dante and Virgil but for children.
@@deathstrokian6976 There is some debate among scholars as to if Virgil is saved at the end or not. And we know that baptism is not ALWAYS necessary, as Dante encounters Adam in Paradiso, as well as some Old Testament figures.
Ngl, I always found Dante’s Inferno to be quite dumb and one of the most overrated stories ever written, however Dante’s Purgatorio I actually find to be quite beautiful, because it’s legit one of if not the only book I hv ever read that legit made me cry. Because similar to Over the Garden Wall, it’s a redemption story and an analogy for it, and also even serves somewhat as a commentary on Dante’s Inferno, and I think Over the Garden Wall, and Purgatorio also share some striking similarities as well.
Its funny how you say in the beginning of the video that theres nothing Comedic about Dantes Inferno. Bro, Dantes Inferno is literally a comedy lol. Even in some of the Hell scenes, you see a bunch of people that were beloved and wouldn't be expected to be there. That would be like seeing Tom Brady or Martin Luther King Jr in hell. Which is pretty funny. It also ends on a good positive note, whereas tragedies and horror films end on bad notes.
I think it's a bit disingenuous to paint the Divine Comedy as a text of one part where hope is a futile endeavor. The Inferno is the first of three texts in the Divine Comedy, where in this context 'comedy' is a story where the hero survives and has a happy ending, detailing his trip through Hell, the place you go when you reject salvation. The souls trapped in hell are those that turned their backs to god, or in the case of the first circle, which isn't much of a place of punishment, where you go if you never had the chance. Virgil as a pagan in life has isn't punished, so much as he is denied paradise, which you can call fucked up all you like, and you'd be right, but this is a medieval Christian text, there are going to be somethings that don't click with us. Purgatory is where Dante sees the path to redemption, what he must go through, and the changes he must face before finally reaching paradise, Heaven. As a whole the Divine Comedy is a tale of hope, that should Dante give into despair he will be punished, and no hope will save him, but if he accepts the grace of God, and lives the rest of his life in virtue it will all be ok, and while he's getting his tour of the lands of the dead, the dead speculate on the living, specifically officials of the church, and warning them that if they do not get their act together they will go to hell, spend ages in purgatory, or not end up in heaven respectively.
This approach has no support. Some references to texts are forced and limited. The animation is fantastic and the proposed perspective very interesting, but I think some parallels are too forced
Oh no. He rewrote his own take on an older story... making it accessible to younger gens... I am so offended... 🤦♀️ ijit. This is how human stories WORK. Ffs
**I hadn't seen Trey the Explainer's video before or during the production of this but feel like we cover the same topic in very different ways. Go check out their video as well! ruclips.net/video/MBg8tQvATIA/видео.html
This is my favorite little show to watch during this time of year
Same! I watch it every year
Where can I watch it?
Hulu it used to be on max but they took it off
@@L.E.F.T.Ehuh!!!! damn
This show forever changed the way I write stories. Over the garden wall is one of the best written shows I’ve ever seen and because of that as an aspiring film director and writer I think you’ll see a lot of parallels between this show and my work.
What are you working on now?
@@RealMatthewWalker a horror series
"I read Shakespeare so naturally you'll see a lot of parallels between the most celebrated writer in human history and my work."
You genuinely didn't feel ashamed to type that comment bro? Really think about how narcissistic that sounds, considering none of us have ever read your work. Really weirdly egotistical shit homie.
@@nerdyworld938update?
“Ain’t that just the way” also resonated with me instantly! What a great mini series, even as an adult.
The fact i watched a video essay reminding me of one of the most gruesum depictions of hell and the guy who wrote it so i can better understand a video about a childrens show is up there in strange situations ive put myself in
Outstanding video!
Your intro and Bait and Switch subject matter were S Tier in their executions
thanks friend
i didnt realize this vid had prerequisite reading requirements, lol! i found it incomprehensible but i appreciated your enthusiasm. as mostly an outsider to both series, i would have liked to been spoonfed more about how otgw parallels to dantes inferno rather than getting blasted with analysis on how amazing the parallels are, but i assume i'm not part of your target audience. i felt like i had accidentally walked into a level 2 class without having taken level 1, however this video plays as a wonderful niche passion spiel
agreed
“Through me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.
Justice the founder of my fabric moved:
To rear me was the task of power divine,
Supremest wisdom, and primeval love.
Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I shall endure.
All hope abandon, ye who enter here.”
I think the idea of hopelessness gets a bad rap when discussed in terms of the Divine Comedy. Yes, the gates declare one should abandon all hope for where you are entering is hopeless, but it's also implied through the theology that while discarding your hope is the only way through hell, if any at all, but it is all in accordance to a divine plan. You can interpret that as solely religious, but for me it's much more indicative of nature as a whole. For me it reads more as, "If you're here, you know why. Let's get on with the ramifications, and try not to complain because you had a choice." So while with "unaliving yourself" discussions are ripe for picking with the source material, I think there's more nuance about the topic in the Divine Comedy than people may give it credit for. Afterall, the whole inscription on the gate's of hell allude to the idea that love and wisdom were instilled in the whole of everything, including Hell. For me what Inferno says about self harm is very poignant and I read and studied the story when I was near my lowest point in life and fiddling with spirituality and it clicked for me what the gates of hell were trying to say(to me) when thinking about the people formed as trees. Over the Garden wall is a phenomenal story and did Inferno many justices, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that one handled such a sensitive topic better than the other. Maybe perhaps that one is more appropriate for children with their limited life experiences and the other speaks to the reader in unabated terms.
Ultrakill In the corner:
Am I a joke to you?
I love this show and I love so much that each year people make more reviews and analyses! I froth at the mouth for these kinda discussions!
Thanks so much for making this, my little literature nerd heart is happy
This video is giving me a whole new lens to watch Over the Garden Wall with this year. I'm also curious about the influence of Americana inspired by Dante like Hawthorne and Melville... The show has a very 19th century Americana feel that I really savor when homesick (living outside the states)
Thanks for watching! Hope you enjoyed!
no wonder Over The Garden Wall resonates so much with me. I'm super depressed
Me, too. This vid is my introduction to the series, and now I'm on a quest to find and binge it.
What a great analysis, I love hearing the deeper logic and symbolism I might have missed rather than overview.
Thanks friend. Glad you enjoyed the vid!
Wow, what an incredible analysis. I can’t believe this doesn’t have more views!
This show built me as a child
It’s so good
As a parent who loves this show, how old were you when you watched it? I can’t wait to share it with him one day but I know it’s a bit creepy for youngins
@@lauracgc oh mannn its so hard to say, was ahile ago, I think the best age to enjoy it would be around 14-16 age range. Thats just around how old I was when I watched it. I think you could watch it at 12 or 13 tho, depends on the person.
I feel like I missed my window to rewatch this series this year, but it also gives me an excuse to watch it with someone else!
Love this and TREY the Explainer's video. Both of you talk about the same theory but far different aspects. A real testament to how much material, interpretation, and relatability there still is in an over 700 year old story.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@10KProductions👍
@@10KProductionsso I actually would like your opinion on this. The "wolf" that chases the boys is an obvious reference to the shewolf from the original story. What I am wondering is when it transforms back into a dog it looks very similar to Beatrice's dog in the cartoon's intro. I'm wondering if that in of itself too is a reference back to the original story as well. I just know in the original story Beatrice was a huge instigator in the trials themselves and maybe this is a reference to that. Idk I might be seeing something that's not actually there.
I love Over the Garden Wall!!!! It’s such a good show
First video of yours that I get to watch, and I can say that this was great! I'll have to get some more of your videos apparently.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks friend!
I only recently found this show over the fall n I’m so glad I did
''You've got no reason to be afraid...your on your own,kid..you always have been..''-T.S
Also, in the inferno, lucifer is actually trapped in the deepest circle of hell buried in ice, just like the beast, who is more trapped than any of the people he turns to trees in the unknown.
ugh always love a Camus reference! Greg and Camus work together so well
I really love this anaylsis of OTGW. It's one of my favorites and a tradition for me to watch it every year during spoopy season (and then over and over again throughout Fall and Winter).
Also from this, I guess I only read a small section of Dante's inferno when I was in school. I never heard of Beatrice in there. Thanks to this video I'm gonna read it in its entirety
Glad you enjoyed the video! I’d suggest a full read through, it’s a great read!
Such a great mini-series.
It's solid!
I have wondered if the program were a retelling of the _Tibetan Book of the Dead_ , but the _Divine Comedy_ makes much more sense.
Such a good analysis love this video 🙌
"for child minded adults" did bro just call adult viewers of the show childish 💀
I’m mainly talking about me
He isn't wrong 😅
@@gothamsmostwantedclownbitc7107 I wanted to try watching the show now I'm cooked I can't let this slide 💀
@@obidasauceman6140 💀 Bro same! It ended up being such a ride!!
How have I not made this comparison before?
Fun fact, the inspiration of Dante's inferno is 13th-15th century Cork
loved trey the explainer’s video on this
It would have been great if in Dante's inferno he eventually said "hey all of this is bullshit yeah?" And went off and did his own thing or fought god and the devil or something.
I think there is an interesting connection between giving up hope in dante’s and the show because in both this is shown through becoming a tree.
not me... not even realizing that. damn. i learned something today.
I just watched over the garden wall and looked up potters Field explained and found out that Dantes inferno is very similar to over the garden wall
God damn with that First Quote! why you gotta break my balls like that?
This is beautifull.
NEED all the music in this video!
While interesting, the connections are rather tenuous, especially when you take Greg to be Virgil. It’s based on broad strokes and a general misreading of Virgil’s character from Inferno and Purgatorio.
Bro I’m so glad I’m not the only one.
I could see OTGW is “Inspired by” or “makes references” to the inferno (‘I awoke to find myself in a dark wood’, beatrice are 2 examples).
But saying it’s a “retelling” is a stretch. Everyone I know who tells me about the OTGW/Inferno connection invariably starts with “I haven’t read inferno but…”
@@mikewhiteside4750with the way Virgil dies in Dante’s inferno it’s a fitting reimagining for him through Greg. “In Dante's "Inferno," the character of Virgil is condemned to live in Limbo because he lived before the time of Christ and therefore could not have been baptized. In Christian theology, baptism is seen as necessary for salvation, and those who lived before the time of Christ were believed to be unable to enter Heaven.” So for as harsh this is, it’s a better reimagining for Dante and Virgil but for children.
@@deathstrokian6976 Yeah I've read it. What does this have to do with greg?
@@deathstrokian6976 There is some debate among scholars as to if Virgil is saved at the end or not. And we know that baptism is not ALWAYS necessary, as Dante encounters Adam in Paradiso, as well as some Old Testament figures.
i had no idea otgw was dante's inferno. i jus thought it was gravity falls on steroids
Can someone pleaaassee tell me what are the songs in this video. They are soooo goood
They’re mostly just stock music I found
Hey those are the same characters from devil may cry
Did you say child minded adults 💀
yeah. people like me
Ngl, I always found Dante’s Inferno to be quite dumb and one of the most overrated stories ever written, however Dante’s Purgatorio I actually find to be quite beautiful, because it’s legit one of if not the only book I hv ever read that legit made me cry. Because similar to Over the Garden Wall, it’s a redemption story and an analogy for it, and also even serves somewhat as a commentary on Dante’s Inferno, and I think Over the Garden Wall, and Purgatorio also share some striking similarities as well.
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TREY would like to have a word with you
But what is the beautiful lie...?
"But the fact that this series for children and child-minded adults..." Well, thanks... I guess? I watched it all in one day.
Same. I was mainly talking about me
Its funny how you say in the beginning of the video that theres nothing Comedic about Dantes Inferno. Bro, Dantes Inferno is literally a comedy lol. Even in some of the Hell scenes, you see a bunch of people that were beloved and wouldn't be expected to be there. That would be like seeing Tom Brady or Martin Luther King Jr in hell. Which is pretty funny. It also ends on a good positive note, whereas tragedies and horror films end on bad notes.
I think it's a bit disingenuous to paint the Divine Comedy as a text of one part where hope is a futile endeavor. The Inferno is the first of three texts in the Divine Comedy, where in this context 'comedy' is a story where the hero survives and has a happy ending, detailing his trip through Hell, the place you go when you reject salvation. The souls trapped in hell are those that turned their backs to god, or in the case of the first circle, which isn't much of a place of punishment, where you go if you never had the chance. Virgil as a pagan in life has isn't punished, so much as he is denied paradise, which you can call fucked up all you like, and you'd be right, but this is a medieval Christian text, there are going to be somethings that don't click with us.
Purgatory is where Dante sees the path to redemption, what he must go through, and the changes he must face before finally reaching paradise, Heaven. As a whole the Divine Comedy is a tale of hope, that should Dante give into despair he will be punished, and no hope will save him, but if he accepts the grace of God, and lives the rest of his life in virtue it will all be ok, and while he's getting his tour of the lands of the dead, the dead speculate on the living, specifically officials of the church, and warning them that if they do not get their act together they will go to hell, spend ages in purgatory, or not end up in heaven respectively.
It’s not funny but it’s called a comedy? Was Dante stupid?
This approach has no support. Some references to texts are forced and limited. The animation is fantastic and the proposed perspective very interesting, but I think some parallels are too forced
I mean, it's a re-imagining in this context, not a retelling
I agree.
Oh no. He rewrote his own take on an older story... making it accessible to younger gens... I am so offended... 🤦♀️ ijit.
This is how human stories WORK. Ffs