The Death of the Telecoil
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- 5 reasons why telecoil is on its way to the grave. Dr. Cliff Olson, Audiologist and founder of Applied Hearing Solutions in Phoenix, Arizona, explains what telecoil is and 5 reasons why it may not be around for much longer.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:39 What is a Telecoil?
01:29 Death of the Telecoil
01:53 Lack of Available Hearing Loops
02:39 Lack of Necessity
03:28 Cost
05:19 Lack of Advocacy
06:06 Auracast
08:11 Final Thoughts 
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I've just returned from the UK where hearing loops have become omnipresent in worship places, auditoriums, customer service points, and even black taxis--enabling me to hear! Will Auracast someday be similarly able to stream directly (and simply, for elderly users) to hearing aids (not via a smart phone intermediary)? I hear mixed messages about that. In the meantime, I'm delighted to see the hearing loop advocacy movement now gaining momentum in the USA (coming, for example, to NYC airports as it has to Broadway theaters, taxis, and subway booths) . . . and would love to have you, Dr. Cliff, support and--as a friend to those of us with hearing loss--to support, not throw cold water on, telecoils and hearing loops. (Yes, at the end you said you support them, but after 8 minutes of telling your peers they're headed for a casket.) If the technology is not yet widespread in your community and state, as it is mine, then perhaps you could harness your expertise and charisma to support the spread of hearing aid compatible assistive listening for the immediate future? You are a super communicator, so your persuasive influence would be much appreciated.
Sometimes if you want someone to learn something new, you have to present a controversial opinion. Think of all the people who never knew what a telecoil was, who now do because of this video. Not everyone has a provider who educates them on what a telecoil is.
@@DrCliffAuD Yes, and you made a good point, Dr. Cliff, about the challenge of breaking the negative feedback loop between a community having no hearing loops and hearing professionals not providing/educating re: telecoils. I'd suggest, however, that the best answer isn't passive resignation. If assistive listening that's direct to CIs and HAs is the ideal, then join us in rolling up your sleeves to go for it. Here in west Michigan, we adopted the attitude: If we build it, they will come. And the result is a region (Holland/Grand Rapids) where most public auditoriums and worship places are looped (as is our regional airport) and most hearing professionals equip their patients to benefit. An energized advocacy in support of a transformed accessibility can work wonders. You're a great, articulate voice who has supported our advocacy of hearing aid compatible assistive listening for today's world . . . and stay tuned, it's about to get a new surge of energy . . . which hopefully will delight you and your audience, too. :-)
I have telecoil and Bluetooth in my hearing aids. The last time I tried to replace the telecoil hooks that I used with my amateur radio receiver, I couldn't find any in stock anywhere on the internet. Now I use Bluetooth adapters for the radio and the audio jack of my desktop computer. I still like TELECOIL but I love Bluetooth!
I have a telecoil on all my devices and will continue to request a telecoil as long as they exist.. The sound I receive with a telecoil is so clear and is convenient as you always have it with you. You don’t have to check the venue to see if they have devices , make sure the device works and depending on employees at the location that can troubleshoot any issues you may have at that venue. Also, there is the possibility of travel to other venues overseas that have more readily accepted the telecoil as a means of accessibility. Many tourist destinations have telecoil accessibility and add to the travel experience. There are websites that list telecoil enabled venues. As I believe Aurocast is a long way from becoming a reality and run as smoothly as current Bluetooth and the cost and expense of fitting/retrofitting a venue will be cost prohibitive to many venues, I plan on continuing to request a telecoil on any of my future purchases. And yes, i have a landline phone as well as an iPhone and a Samsung Galaxy android 53 5G and attend meetings that use a portable loop system so my opinion is biased.
All true, but the one thing you haven’t covered are venues such as live theatre (Broadway, regional, national tour) where, most of the time, if the theatre doesn’t have a loop installed-and most of them don’t-the headset dispensary (there always is one, usually at the back of the house or managed at the coat check) will give you a telecoil *adapter*, which is on a loop that goes around your neck, and has a clip so that you can position it on a collar or pocket facing the stage. The adapter is configured to a channel that receives its signal directly from the sound system. And in a multi-stage venue (like the Signature or the Public in NYC), the adapter is attuned to a channel specific to the given production.
In my office, I still need to use either a landline, or my video phone with the relay, with sound coming through a headset. Both require I use the telecoil on my hearing aid. Outside the office, I still can't use Bluetooth with my Android cell phone without having to use something between the hearing aid and the phone. We need this technology to stay until the new technology is mature enough to fully replace it. It isn't there yet. I'm looking forward to when it is, but don't kill the old one too soon.
Dr. Cliff was too general regarding Android cell phone's ability to use BlueTooth streaming for phone calls. Only Android phones with the ASHA (Audio Streaming for Hearing Aids) standard will stream without an intermediary device sometimes called streamers. I had to do a lot of research on the internet to learn this and that my current Android phone doesn't have the ASHA standard. I didn't want to need to use a separate device to talk on the cell phone like my last pair of HAs. I'm letting others know not all Smartphones will stream phone calls without another device, a "streamer".
Here in the UK, the majority theatres either have a loop or offer infra-red headsets. My local theatre - the RSC in Stratford Upon Avon has a hearing loop in all three of its theatres. The RSC also have at least two "captioned" performances in any one performance run (the tickets are discounted for both the deaf person and their "companion"). On Friday I went to see the production of Hamnet - the sound was fine with my telecoil and the captions were great - pity about the actual play!
The one disadvantage of the loop system is in venues such as cinema multiplexes where it is impossible to separate the loop system for each of the venues (the signal passes through walls so you could be watching Spiderman to the sound of The Sound of Music) and the cost of lining each of the venues with a Faraday Cage is prohibitive). I wish more cinemas would offer captioned showings as more often than not the dialogue is drowned by the music or special effects.
I found Juliëtte Sterkens response to your video helpful and shared your link with friends...but now we can't find her comment. Is it possible to repost her comprehensive view? Thank you.
I would like to see the comments by Dr. Juliëtte Sterkens too. She is an Audiologist and hearing technology subject matter specialist.
I'd like to see it again, too!
I thank you again. I just finished watching a Tedx vedio of Dr. Juliette Sterkens… another very dedicated doctor just like you!🙌🏾
I am thankful for where hearing aids are so far and looking forward for better hearing aids, of course!
I can’t imagine my life without my hearing aids!👏🏽👏🏽
I hate hate hate that automatic telecoils are gone too! Not EVERYONE wants or has the capacity to use Bluetooth when their phone rings!
Dr. Cliff. It takes courage to admit mistakes and make things right for consumers.
Just because you don't agree with me, doesn't make my opinions incorrect. Regardless, I will continue to educate consumers with hearing loss on ALL of their current and future options, including, but not limited to, telecoils.
I use them at concerts to hear the band better than by using the stage speakers alone.
I use telecoil augmented open headphones.
So my normal hearing can pick up the majority of the band's output, but the headphones add a crisp clarity, without the stadium reverb you get.
Everyone who's tried them is blown away at how good they are- which is why many people on stage, news readers and outdoor venue entertainers use them. They all have normal hearing. It's not just useful for people with hearing loss.
All the 'actors' at an olympic opening ceremony? Yep, they use the technology too. Cheaper than radio, and more reliable.
I am a patient of Cliff’s, and he is right on. Competence is surprising in today’s world.
Doctor Cliff, I am confused by the conflicting messages in this video. You suggest the imminent death of the telecoil and promote Auracast as its replacement technology, and yet you say very late in the video that, “The only problem with Auracast is that it’s probably going to take several years before it becomes available.” I am not disputing that Auracast shows great promise for hearing accessibility, but for the next several years consumers will continue to need telecoils to have what you call, the “life-changing experience” of using a telecoil and hearing loop in a public venue. You seem to agree, given that at the very end of the video, you say about Auracast’s availability, “But until that day comes, you'll continue to see me recommending telecoils to my patients.” This is why I am confused as to why the video doesn’t address timelines and what consumers need NOW and for the NEAR FUTURE. Why not talk about the emergence of Auracast as an exciting new technology that will co-exist with current assistive listening systems until it achieves the broad adoption needed to become the dominant solution for people with hearing loss? During this transition period, consumers will best be served by hearing aids with BOTH telecoils AND the latest Bluetooth functionality. FYI, last year Google Maps added hearing loops to the app’s accessibility attributes. This makes it easier for consumers to find hearing loops and allows businesses to promote their hearing accessibility. The app already includes thousands of hearing loop locations and more are being added all time. Perhaps you could do a video showing consumers how to access this exciting new feature.
Doesn't sound like you're confused at all. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@DrCliffAuD Your words are confusing - why are you predicting the "death of telecoils" if you like them so much and the new version of BT is years away? Not to mention how long the transition takes for venues to get on board and for hearing aid manufacturers to adopt the new BT.
@@HLAAPalmBeachCounty what does predicting the death and liking them have anything to do with each other? I like a lot of things and none of them last forever. I am not afraid of change, I welcome it.
I have hearing aids that include a telecoil, but I have never found any opportunity to use the telecoil. A few months ago my audiologist deleted the telecoil program. I don't miss it.
Common problem with Telecoils.
good video but I hear you I got the TV connector for my phonak hearing aids and love the way it goes directly into my hearing aids
I just asked my audiologist to start the process of replacing my opn1s with new Phonak Lumity L90 RTs.
Yes, T, with telecoil, because despite some prophets of doom, I believe that the announcement of the death of the telecoil is somewhat exaggerated.
It would be great if those who we believe are on our side promoted all the new technologies that will help us in the future, but without starting to put nails in the coffin of solutions that TODAY, and in the coming years, are making our lives easier.
Well done everyone
P.S. - My apologies for this English translated by Google.
I use the telecoil on my hearing aids to use over the ear headphones allowing me to communicate online with friends and listen to videos. This is something Bluetooth wont allow me to do.
There are better options to directly connect your hearing aids to your computer using Bluetooth.
@@DrCliffAuD Have you done a video on them please?
What is wrong headed with your video is that Auracast should be ready to launch before they created all this hype. If it came to fruition, I would be the first to come aboard (The Cochlear N8 is equipped to handle the transition) but in the interim this marketing campaign needs to be put on hold. As Juliette and I are both advocates for looping, the uphill battle to get medical facilities to install them is heroic. You mentioned open venues, which is all well and good but during the Covid 19 epidemic and the proliferation of masks and the inability to lip read, created a nightmare scenario for hospital patients who had a hearing loss. It was successful in getting a hospital to be looped from top to bottom and I am working on two more plus the ten walk-in facilities they manage. We all understand that HOH/deaf using bluffing as a coping mechanism. Nodding their head as if they understand instructions can lead to serious medical problems. As far as cost, how do you measure the cost of a human life lost because of miscommunication? It may be years down the road before Auracast is available. There are countless millions of hearing aid and cochlear implant users who can make use of telecoils NOW. I am more and more convinced that the marketing of Auracast is a stock scheme. There is no reason to market something that is not readily available and to discourage methodology that is available now.
Could you speak to the EMF issue of Bluetooth?
1. Is Bluetooth “ON” all the time
2. Is there an aid where u can turn off Bluetooth
3. What does the ADA say about continuous use of Bluetooth so close to the brain.
4. I sent back my air pods because of the excessive EMF.
5.IT HAS been predicted we will have a pandemic of tumors due to exposure of EMF
6. COULD YOU COMMENT PLEASE
The "chicken & egg" scenario will be solved because of the superior stability of the connection and better music quality (with lower power consumption) inherent in the new LE Audio system that is part of the new Bluetooth standard. This is already driving adoption in the latest phones, & earbuds are beginning to follow. Give it a few years and there will be enough earbuds out there that places like sports bars will see offering Auracast as a competitive advantage. From there, we'll be off & running.
My older Tracfone has a earlier version of Bluetooth that is not compatible with my Resound One HA's. Be sure that your phone's Bluetooth works with your Android phone .
I just purchased Phonak Vito p 90 CIC hearing aids with the t-coil per your recommendation. I cannot get them to work with my t4 rated iPhone 14.
sI did not know there is a better system than the hearing loop I use a personal neck loop for my MedEL Rondo 3 and my iPhone. the induction loop picks up any electromagnet energy in the room and cna be quite annoying. does this system shield from the leakage of energy?
That should not be a problem with Bluetooth. However, no system will be 100% perfect.
There is no "better system" yet. We are all hoping it is just around the corner but it isn't.
Doctor Cliff, I am a fan who is deeply disappointed by this video. The facts you've formed into an argument are self-evident to anyone who has been paying attention to the needs of those with hearing loss. We all know that some use of wireless digital transmission (Bluetooth or other) will play a role in the future of assistive listening technology. The question of timing is everything and you have conflated inevitability with immediacy. And while the controversy may be good for your RUclips channel, it comes at the expense of those for whom you ordinarily advocate. Hearing impairment is a problem for which ANY reasonable solution is worth promoting. Flogging the death of hearing loops will dissuade people from building and seeking a known, trusted, effective solution to the challenges faced by those with hearing loss.
I couldn't agree more with Edward's comment. I believe this video needs to be removed and redone. With friends like this who needs enemies?
How can you stream a landline phone to mu hearing aids
Doctor, this thing about auralcast is beginning to sound like a political speech of what it promises to do, and this excites me to no end, but why the hell it's taking so long? I am totally frustrated. I have two other brother who like me, suffer from hearing loss, but I am the only one who has a iphone and a remote microphone. There is no way of sharing what I hear with them. Is there a way that I can push this auralcast to finally become a reality?
Not really, development, implementation, and adoption of new technologies is expensive and takes time. Just be glad that this will happen relatively soon.
Thanks so much for your response.
Actually you're quite wrong because over in Australia every brand new train station every brand new train and every renovated train station always has to have a hearing loop it's that dead opposite over here in Australia it's not like over in America it's not hard to put a wire and connected up to an loop amp I am I have even done it I've embedded a hearing loop wire in to my couch so I'm watching this video and I'm streaming the hearing loop audio through my hearing loop so it's not dying in Australia
Why do we always want to replace one thing with another? Did the car kill the bicycle? Having a bicycle would be silly and old-fashioned? Don't you find it more useful to take advantage of the choice and to have Bluetooth and telecoil? As we say in France "we want the cheese and the dessert"! As for the Auracast solution, can you say that the car is dead, that you shouldn't buy new cars, because Google cars will come one day...! By the way when?
A good video but regrettably full of inaccuracies and misinformation. The “second reason” lack of availability of loop systems?
There are millions of loop systems installed globally, with hundreds more installed each month.
The demand for loop technology is growing in and out of the USA.
It is the only technology that has a global installation standard ensuring reliable access for the user each time. It’s also the only technology that had zero latency.
How many Bluetooth systems are installed? When will this technology be available (10-15 years according to Bluetooth SIG publication).
When it will be available it will have some advantages and will be used alongside other technologies such as RF, IR or hearing loops.
You did not mention how long it would take for all users in the USA to upgrade their hearing aids to Auracast hearing aids? And will they be able to afford new hearing aids?
The stated time frame for an upgrade is between 6-10 years from when hearing aids with Auracast will become available.
Why not talk about what’s available today, and not confuse your viewers with something that may be available in 10 years possibly?
Auracast will only be available for large area venues, not for small 1 to 1 applications such as service desks, elevator, or a ticket office . Loop technology CIE already integrated in all these applications as it’s far more flexible.
Good to get all the facts not some of them.
honestly the Telecoil was kind of useless. in my case I never take advantage of it since most concert hall don't have it and phone not great. i never saw the telecoil sign. for example the DSO (detroit symphonic orchestra) don't have it
I have a telecoil and have never had the opportunity to use. I've never found a theater in my area that has a loop. So, for me it's a useless tool.
Sorry to hear that.
You can use telecoils not only in hearing looped venues but in venues that offer assistive listening systems with neckloops. (In effect small personal hearing loops worn around the neck.) Ask for access by name. Be persistent. Can’t hear? You must speak up. And Ask for the accommodation. Nothing will change otherwise.
Sounds like antiquated technology that’s no longer required due to better, more effective options.
Please do not proclaim the end of a technology that helps us today, just because you believe that the future will bring us other solutions.
You are doing a terrible service to the community.
I am very disappointed in this video (I normally rave about you!). There are many Hearing Loops out there and I would have preferred that you would have encouraged your patients to be advocates and request more Hearing Loops be installed. Secondly, for a large number of older adults, the simplicity of turning on their Telecoil directly on their hearing aid with out any iphone or android is easy and for many all they are cable of comprehending from a technology point of view. Aurocast it appears will exclude anyone that does not have a smartphone and requires downloading an APP. You have now given any venue or audiologist an excuse not to install a hearing loop. Aurocast will also exclude those that are unable to afford purchasing new hearing aids which to them cost a fortune as it is. Although you say you still support telecoils, many will only see the heading of this video and not give them a chance as you are a reputable source of information.
sure kill that off like they did analog,,the industry just cant leave well enough alone..😠
good video but I hear you I got the TV connector for my phonak hearing aids and love the way it goes directly into my hearing aids