5 Things you need to know about diesel heaters
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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(2023-14) In this video we talk about 5 things we learned owning a diesel heater.
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The only person who has mentioned carbon build up running it on low. 👍👍👍
First off, its not an 8000 btu heater. Its an 8 kilowatt heater which translates approximately to 27,000 BTU’s.
Thank you for clarifying.
ruclips.net/video/nuYC3KPG3lc/видео.htmlsi=n_g5EAVL0pdJAHVU it is actually 10500 BTUs
Also. There's not one of the Chinese diesel heaters that is rated 8kw. The burn chamber are tte same on the acclaimed 5kw and 8kw. In addition, it spends fuel to the amount of 5kw, it does not nearly put out 5kw of heat.
So therew two models. 2.5kw, and the 5kw. It's been picked apart by many and well documented :)
Of you want a proper one, but still cheap. Get a lavaneer/lavaner. Chinese heater, only it's assembled properly, actually quality controlled, tested, and every spec are open to the public. 👌🏼
Also. Burns half a litre per hour.
But kw energy available from a litre of diesel is 10kwh (38Mj)
Short and to the point.
Great video thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You could spray foam between your rafters and get even better heat retention plus I guarantee you you'll use less fuel plus it will heat lots quicker
I was thinking about that and I also have to get my walls insulated. Just trying to figure out a cost-effective way of doing it.
Very good summary of diesel heater use. Cleaning out the burn chamber before shutdown is your best tip, this will greatly increase the time between burn chamber cleanings. Great video!!!
Thanks for watching! Happy you enjoyed the video.
Great video actually changed my procedure. Thanks for the "leave it on high when shutting down" suggestion. Makes sense to me!
I'm happy you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it.
Didn't see anyone mention it yet (though I didn't scroll very far) but placing the combustion air intake outside the garage will stop it from sucking in cold outdoor air from every crack and crevice in your structure, likely improving on the 20 degree temp difference you've been achieving. Just food for thought, and I can think of times you may want that fresh air infiltration despite the inefficiency. Thanks for a great, short, informative video.
Yes, someone here did mention that. I just haven't done it yet. Maybe someday. Thanks for commenting.
WARNING!:Be very careful with combustion air intake inside. If power fails during a firing cycle the unit will not have the shut down cycle. This means the combustion chamber is full of fuel and it will vaporize unburned and come out the intake tube. Choking fumes that really stink. Never leave it running unattended.
Im a glass blower, i live in ny and i have 1700cfm of ventilation going while my torch is going. I struggle to stay warm in the winter. The best i have found is a 60-90k btu propane salamander, anything over 90k like burns all the oxy out of the air and i start feeling really weird. Was considering the diesel heater but it doesnt seem its gonna be enough heat for me. Thanks for the info!
I would agree, that's a lot of air movement and the heater would not be able to keep up with that.
I bought one for my green house. It should be here in March. Thanks for the information!!
I think you will like it. Just make sure your exhaust is lower and can drain any moisture.
Great video. You said the diesel heater isn't the end all be all solution for a garage heater but from the standpoint of economics it actually might be. Your video gave me good insight as to how one of these units may help my situation. I have a 30x40 uninsulated pole barn so I would likely get poor results until I decide to insulate my barn. Either way if it take some off the chill of without gagging me like my torpedo heater I would call that a win.
I agree. Thanks for the comment. After doing multiple home projects this summer I’m saving up so that in the spring I can start insulating my garage. That should give me really good results. It’s definitely better than a torpedo heater. Good luck with the pole barn.
What's a torpedo heater? A propane fanned blower type?
Mine runs on diesel or kerosene. It is an always on forced air heater that puts out a lot of heat but I have mine on a thermostat that can be placed in various locations around the heater to just meet a desired temperature in relation to the high temperature output. The negative side is the fumes are not separate from the heat like they are with the parking heaters. Torpedo heaters are intended as a short term heat solution in large well ventilated areas. Parking heaters can be set up as a more permanent heat solution.@@augustusmaximus891
Thanks for this short but sweet video, it has provided useful information. I am just considering the purchase of one of these type of heaters for my newly commissioned mobile workshop. Its 7 x 12 x 6 feet high, and basically is just a cargo box that I forklift onto the back of my flat bed truck. I often get sent to really remote locations in the depths of winter to fix stuff, and I find that stuff sure gets fixed quicker when i am warm.
David in the UK.
That sounds like an awesome setup. One of these heaters would work great for that. I do recommend the fuel line upgrade. I think there’s a link on that video for it in the description. It just seems to make it run a little bit better I don’t really know why it does but it does.
If you run your heater on low, it will speed up and clean out the burn chamber before it shuts down. I noticed that on mine after running mine all night on 2 kz I shut it down and the fan sped up and the glowplug came on to burn off any residual fuel in the chamber.
Mine does that on shut down, the fan ramps up for a bit before it shuts down.
Good vid, Paul, thanks for the info. I put the smaller version in my VW bus and can run it down to around zero F°. Key to keeping it happy are clean fuel, I use kerosene, seems to make a big difference, and like you say, run it on high most of the time to clean it out- its gotta get hot enough to burn efficiently 👍
Thank you!
Well... I know what I need to know now! This is useful. I will still need my propane heater but not as much.
Thanks for commenting.
Straightforward and helpful. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the tips, I want something I don't have to modify just to make it function properly... one of these days
I installed a Chinese Diesel heater in my 6x12 cargo trailer conversion... I spent all my effort making sure I properly exhausted the unit through my 1 inch insulated wall using a thru-hull stainless outlet as well as using high-temp RTV around my exhaust hose with high quality hose clamps, and thought everything was great.. I now know that I need to also properly setup a thru-hull port for the combustion intake (away from the exhaust). These devices are primitive.. don't trust that the exhaust flow will happen in one direction with 100% certainty... and don't expect your Home Depot CO detector to save you either.. I've smelled the funky smell, and let it go... and it made me pretty sick.. Don't ignore it... do it right.
...also, if you drop the diesel pump frequency, the exhaust-to-intake leak is even worse... Treat the combustion intake just as important as the exhaust itself.
Thanks for commenting and sharing this.
I like the straight forward explanation the cause and effect approach.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video.
This heater is really about 10K btu. Diesel contains about 33K btu per liter, burn rate is about .35l an hour on high, so only 10K ish btus are available for heat if it were 100% efficient. But with all that heat escaping as exhaust its not giving full btu as diesel has. To reclaim exhaust heat I put a 6' stainless exhuast ran through aluminum downspouting filled halfway with sand. This helps extract lost exhaust heat along with a small fan. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info and the great idea.
Thanks for the presentation
Thank you! The diesel heater thing has been a learning experience for me. I'm heading into my second winter so we will see what happens this year.
Excellent!
I bought one it lasted about 6 hours before it packed up
Think it's worth spending that bit more on a quality one
Well watching this video I have learnt a lot thankyou
Sorry to hear that. Other than the initial carbon problem that I think has been resolved mine seems to be working ok.
Hey, A 911EP 360 Star behind ya. Love it!
Had that thing forever 😂😂😂😂
@paulethier3416 nice. That one is roughly 20 years old. I like the products from that company so it caught my eye.
1:50 they were saying lot of things. I didnt seen one important. this filter can be unscrew to be opened and cleaned. For this you need the dirt to be outside of the screen. The clogging reasons seems to me like nonsense.
Thank you for commenting.
Are you running your air intake inside the garage and your exhaust outside the garage? If so you are pulling cold outside air into the garage and making the heater less effective. Maybe it doesn't make a huge difference since you're not insulated garage anyway but you may be able to run your intake outside and achieve higher temperatures in the garage.
WARNING!:Be very careful with combustion air intake inside. If power fails during a firing cycle the unit will not have the shut down cycle. This means the combustion chamber is full of fuel and it will vaporize unburned and come out the intake tube. Choking fumes that really stink. Never leave it running unattended.
Thank you for sharing this information with us
so when its minus 45deg celcius where i live it'll raise the temp 20deg to minus 25 deg. perfect i can work in my garage in a t shirt and shorts.
My experience with my uninsulated garage is 20 degrees f above the outside temperature. If you have a bigger area or more insulation it could be different in your situation.
Lmao.
Is the filter kit necessary? I know a guy who has had one on his semi for years and doesn’t run a filter… seems like you just added some failure points to the system.
I don’t believe the filter is necessary. In fact, mine failed early on this year in the fall, I could not find one locally so I ordered one. In the meantime I’m ran it without a filter, still going strong 3 months later.
Cheaper off ebay for same thing, but why cant people wait a few days for delivery
The harder fuel line makes zero difference as there isnt any pressure in the fuel line when running, it is basically gravity fed and the pump just meters the flow it dosent pump under pressure..
Thanks for commenting and sharing this information.
Can you still smell the diesel from the fuel container?
No, there is no diesel smell
Shouldn't you have the intake from the outside, so you don't make underpreassure?
Yes, probably but my garage is not very tight anyway. If to have an insulated garage then it’s an absolute must
Your fuel filter inlet should have the fuel going to the outside of the filter element. if you have the fuel go inside the element it will fill up with debris like a cup and clog the filter easier!
Thank you for commenting. This has been pointed out to me many times. When I installed it I did not notice that I installed it wrong. Its been changed since the video.
Awesome! I wonder if this bad boy would run on 50/50 diesel and filtered waste motor oil?
I know people tried it and it works for some but I’ve not tried it myself
Don’t! Just don’t…you’ll have nothing but trouble…they run very frugal and trouble free on diesel, kero, or heating oil..just a headache playing around with alternative fuels and why? It’s not a truck getting 10mpg it’s a DIESEL heater running 8hrs on one gallon at high 😂 do you want to ice skate uphill also 🤷♂️
FYI, increase the minimum set fan speed for cleaner combustion on low, it soots up because of being too rich fuel/air mixture. A little research will turn up the master code for your model. Once the unit is at operating temperature, bump up the set fan speeds so hardly no black smoke is seen from exhaust. I went up 200rpms and haven’t had issues with soot buildup since. Before that; If the heater did soot up or got flooded with fuel, a trick I used was a shop vac hose hooked up to the vac exhaust as to blow in the intake at a high volume and blow out excess fuel or carbon without disassembling the whole thing.
They will run on filtered waste oil + diesel but you will only get 2 maybe 3 tanks of fuel through it before it blocks up the burn chamber and then need a major cleaning. If you don't mind cleaning them out 2 times a week it's fine, they will run on mixtures of waste oil and diesel. I think they are over rated and very labor intensive. Once the inside of the flame chamber gets full of soot there is a gauze in there that is supposed to glow red hot to help combustion, this gauze can not be seen unless it is cut in half , but when it is clogged with carbon and soot it will begin to carbon up faster each time between cleans. As I wrote in the above comment the only real way to clean behind this gauze where the gunk builds up is to use Hydrochloric acid. Because there is no access for tools to be used on this part unless the burn chamber is cut open.
does'nt Your diesel heater both start and stop at full speed? - Is'nt that enough to burn the sooth out of the system?
I think it starts at the level that was set when you turn it off.
They work fine for the first few months but once the inside of the flame chamber,(which has a mesh surrounding it which can't be seen unless it is cut in half ) gets full of carbon it will start to carbon up faster each time and will not combust the fuel properly causing more soot and carbon build ups in the exhaust and burn chamber. You can't pull the burn chambers apart to clean the inside and no tools will scrape away the carbon build up behind this mesh. the only thing I have found that removes it but also corrodes the mesh a bit each time is Hydrochloric acid, most the buildup turs to a black smelly sludge and can be rinsed out with water. I can't see any other way to clean this and acid was the last resort, I feared it may dissolve the mesh entirely but if done quickly with ample rinsing with fresh water seems to work fine so far. If you have an old blocked burn chamber that is not working give the acid a shot and see if it works for you.
You can get spare parts for these heaters.
Just throw some diesel 911 in it when it gets super cold.
It doesn’t get cold enough to gel the diesel. The heater is just not strong enough without insulation. I’m happy I bought it and used it this winter. It really is cheap affordable heat. Thanks for commenting.
Lots of heat is dumped out the exhaust and you maximized the waste by insulating it; why?
I wrapped the exhaust to protect from radiant heat. Thanks for the question.
It's 8 kw not btu.
I have one question about It With 1 liter Oil how long it will work i mean how long it will Heat exactly
With the on-board tank full and running on high it will run for about 14 hours. I never run it on a lower setting so I'm not sure how long that would last on low. I suspect it would run 24hours on low setting. Thanks for the comment.
@@paulethier3416 thankyou so much sir and how can i order one of this in my country in kosovo
I'm not sure if you have access to Amazon but there are links in the description for the heater and other parts.
@@paulethier3416 thank you god bless you ✌️
@@paulethier341632 1/2 hours on low, some people are getting.
Hi is it ok to run the heater fuel pipe 14 ft length thank you
Im not sure. I’ve seen people try to capture the exhaust heat by running it through a heat exchanger. So I guess it could work.
How long does a tank of diesel last?
I get about 12 hours or so on high setting.
12 hours on one tank is exactly the question I wanted to ask. But the question on top of that is will a fully charged car battery run the heater for 12 hours also? I want to put it on the deck of my boat and run the heat into the cabin. The cabin is the size of a minivan.
How many amps is your 12v power supply please,
15amp continuous, 18amp surge
You keep saying 25 degrees but you forgot to say if that’s degrees F or degrees C?
Thanks for asking the question. The measurement is in Fahrenheit.
Can u burn kerosene
I’m not sure. I’ve heard of people mixing kerosene with the diesel. I’ve always burned regular highway diesel from the pump.
@@paulethier3416 thanks
thank you very much for this great video - and the others!
This guy actual uses the exhaustion heat in addition to the blowing out heat: ruclips.net/video/6WrCJcfICF4/видео.htmlsi=UEhwrvA9k1XAbhAV
Happy you enjoyed them.
Thanks for sharing man!!! I am so not looking forward for the winter here in Alberta, yet I must start now getting ready for it. Cheers!
Just a note - The Kw is NOT Kilowatt it's CALORIE watt. So these 8K units should be putting out 27000 BTUs.
Thank you for sharing that, I always wondered how that converted.
What kinda crap are you rambling on about? Kw stands for Kilowatt on these heaters and on anywhere it says Kw. I have no idea what you have smoked to come up with CALORIE WATT.
Calorie watt hahahaha. This guy smooooke. Who is your dealer
@@pacopet1234 Took you long enough.
I'd like too know how you power up this heater, because I hear on start up the glow plugs need up to 15amps / 120w supply this will drop when it's warmed up to under 10amps / 40w. Most lithium battery generators only have about 10amps max, unless it comes with a suitable brick converta this is a small problem.