Chou vs hans kyknya cuma pas garis,in. Tpi jd jauh di dlm garis. Shida susah payah jangkau sutlecock dan wasit anggap udah nyentuh lapangan. Sdgkan sapsire yg ngembaliin suttlecock pantulan malah di sahkan wasit. Kyknya mmg perlu VAR. Penyiaran bwf udah bagus.tinggal minta ulangan video aja,dan wasit bisa liat buat ngerubah kputusan awal. Di saat hawk eye jg udah ber-kali" terlihat error.
most importantly umpires must be willing to acknowledge their own mistakes and stop taking things personally. I don't know why umpires had to behave in such an authoritived way?
The umpires see themselves as God 'ol Mighty that can do no wrong. That arrogant stance can't be challenged and if any player states otherwise then it's an instant yellow card. That's the curse of the sport.
@@bluemarlin2u last case on the BAC when Pusarla V Sindhu vs Akane Yamaguchi, i don't surely know what cause it but Pusarla seem very upset with the umpire, and it affected her performance on the court,
Umpires and line judges are only human and make mistakes, but they are mostly right. If they do not act sure players will take advantage and challenge every decision. Allowing video review (if available) would be a step forward. Please remember that they are unpaid volunteers who give their free time for the sport.
@@pauldodd2120 Players cant simply just challenge umpires' decision though, because we do have a referee in court. So such acts that obviously go against the rules will certainly be noticed by the referee. In this case, we want to highlight that umpires should be more considerate and fair in umpiring the game. Lastly, umpires certainly get paid so they are expected to do their best in their professional job. While there are unpaid volunteers who serve as linesmen, it doesn't give them the right or pass to judge the line poorly in-game, is not it? Especially not in the world-class game? Don't you think so.
This hurts me as a badminton lover, even though the players aren't from my country. Cannot even imagine how was the players' feeling being cheated like that. Umpire sometimes realized they made a wrong call, but too ashamed to acknowledge their mistakes.
Some of those umpire don't even know how to play, they seems hired as part time and don't know the rules, they are just the best person to become umpire among their country committee
This is why BWF doesnt do slow motion replays a lot anymore on where the shuttle lands, and on players serving. They want to protect the line judges, service judges, and the hawkeyes from being complained
This explains it..often during the games even with clear straight camera views my vision is different from hawkeye..and almost everytime when hawkeye is used they dont show real replay with the same angle..i always thought what i see would have been due to the bounce and shuttle adjustment..but now i know that i was not always wrong in my vision.
Perhaps they used previous games or made lots of simulations and stored them in files, so if there is a challenge, they can select whether they want the shuttlecock in or out and choose the file accordingly.
the problem with hawkeye is that it doesn't actually show where the shuttle landed, but a prediction of where the shuttle most likely landed to a certain degree of accuracy, based on plotting its flight path via measurements taken at various points during its flight. we all know that the flight of a shuttle can deviate sharply for any number of reasons
all danish pair have at least committed ONE cheating on a high level tournament. very embarrassing of them. juhl, pedersen and astrup are so shameless.
I think this is the one of the area Badminton is behind from other sports, things like this happens match referee should watch reply what's happened there without knowing anything just came to court then they convince the player to play that not good for badminton and i still don't understand what is happened to Hawkeye 😅
The reasons the officials eliminated instant replays in many tournaments, is to eliminate ambiguities, between badly calibrated Hawkeyes, an real action. Let alone how convenient to turn matches around. You can say legalized cheating. It started with Danish players taking forever serving, and there is still no regulation for that.
"In the 2007 Wimbledon Championships a shot that appeared to be out, was called by Hawk-Eye as in by 1 mm, a distance smaller than the advertised mean error of 3.6 mm.[46] Some commentators have criticised the system's 3.6 mm statistical margin of error as too large.[47] Others have noted that while 3.6 mm is extraordinarily accurate, this margin of error is only for the witnessed trajectory of the ball." Wikipedia
Not sure why theynuse hawkeye instead of putting cameras on the lines. 1000% more accurate. Just look at thenfirst couple videos , how hawkeye was wrong because camera was able to capture the real landing. It happened to watanabes mixed game recently as well where his cross court save was called out. When clearly in
I don't know why they use Hawkeye in Badminton, it does not work due to the unpredictable drift with the shuttlecock when it rotates. Tennis balls and cricket balls are different and easily predictable.
Need to include the 2022 Thomas cup footage as well. Court 3 has no Hawkeye and the umpire is clearly siding on Team India 😏 many lose points due to his one sided behavior
bwf loves Denmark,they can be blind whatever those players do.though Viktor Axelsen doesnt appear inthis vid,we also know how bwf loves him.as for korean,i think all asian countries know what they like doing
For example, by manipulating the air conditioning vents to change the wind direction of the field. The shameless judges shown in the film are really just the tip of the iceberg.
badminton is a sport that has been around for a decade already , and we are currently in 2022 . the tech that they use is suppose to be able to help players to play fair and square . and most importantly , the referee is suppose to be more precise with their decision bases on the given tech . badminton is a healthy and most played sports in the world , dont ruined it .
Thanks for the video. The graphic display from Hawkeye placed it wrongly as well within the baseline (Singles - He Bing Jao). It should have display marginally within the end edge of the baseline. It look out at first but if you look carefully at the angle of the shuttle, it is leaning slightly away from the vertical. This placed the cock semi-circle edge within the end edge of the baseline. Lately, they have been careful to display the correct representation and not just simply put a dark circle on a line to indicate that it was in. As for those shots taken twice, which is not allowed, the umpire may have not notice it and he/she cannot rule if they did not see. If it was me, since there was a protest and I did not see it, I will call both sides to explain the situation and offer a compromise by proposing playing a let. Of course, the winning side would say no but at the very least, I try to do something rather than seat on the chair and remain inert.
a game like badminton should rely more on high speed high definition cameras instead of faulty hawkeye. Hawkeye is notorious for faulty judgement and not so reliable. Also the umpire seems to always have this "im in charge here and you cant do sh*t" mentality and never acknowledge whenever theres a potential fault occured. they just shrugged it of most of the times.
Hawkeye in Tennis has proven itself far more reliable than any line judges honestly... it just sounds like the Hawkeye in these select clips is badly calibrated or something
Badminton is super fast. Dirty plays I think is like that small guy from Denmark with his stupid annoying serve. And the rest of the video is just normal things can happen. We dont have VAR like in football, but the hawkeye is there, I think that is enough to help anyone involved.
However fast it is, line calls aside, I think you'd always know if you yourself are cheating, e.g. double hitting, or the shuttle touching your body etc.
I really love the way the Denmark team won 1 point at Rio Olympic, what a unsporting behavior! LOL. They was so happy after making an disappointing action.
i think hawkeye is not 100% reliable, and if its not 100% reliable then whats the point? i think many pros and fans (esp those who watch more badminton videos on youtube) are gradually losing trust in hawkeye. everyone thought its 100% accurate but its not. i think badminton should follow football's VAR system, where you just show a slow motion replay multiple times to the umpire/judge and they can see/judge if its in or not. and i think this system is much cheaper than Hawkeye for sure and is definitely more reliable.
The IRS is about 98% reliable. A 100% reliable system would probably cost millions. However, the IRS should automatically pick the spot the shuttle lands, instead of needing somebody to look at the frames and choose.
Admin what do u think abt the PV Sindhu controversy at Asia Badminton championships 2022 ? Probably there were 2 incidents in that tournament against Sindhu , quite funny and horrendous
some errors in technology and the limitations of the human eye in my opinion are still reasonable. Akane x shindu on asian championship 2022 was the worst.. how could be the referee didn't understand the rules
Never liked Juhl and Pedersen. Now we have a reason not to. Don't like Astrup and Rasmussen either. Nothing against the Danish as a whole, as I think HKV is pretty cool. Shida Chiharu hit the shuttle BEFORE it landed. Not the case for Sapsiree at the end there.
most of Danish players know they played unfair but the still unsportsmanlike towards it.. and there's one time that the Danish team was called foul every time they serve.. that's the accumulated Karma for them :))
Sorry, here I have a question. It’s my first time to see the result of a challenging show “no decision.” What does that mean by “no decision?” Does it mean the device doesn’t work or?
Even HawkEye knows to admit when it isn't sure of the call, but the umpires have perfect eyesight and decisionmaking that cannot possibly be wrong. Sad
paling gemes sama pedersen, 2x touch malah selebrasi, at least tau malu lah ya, karma langsung dibayar lunas, misaya yg dapat gold, sedangkan tante denmark nangis dipojokan gagal emas🤣
It's not Hawkeye, but IRS (Instant Review System). The problem is that unlike Hawkeye, the point where the shuttle lands is placed manually from highspeed frames for the simulation, so there is an element of human error, especially when it was first introduced. It's rare that the decision is wrong, but the placement of the shuttle may often seem unrelated to reality.
Badminton is very fast-paced game. There is always a scope for a wrong judgement (intentional and unintentional) by both players and the umpire. A better review system should be in place. Umpires should acknowledge their missjudgement. And players should show better sportmanship e.g body contact, double hit, in/out decition. But again, it's a fast game so, sometimes, players themselves are unaware of thier mistakes. There are quiet a few examples of good sportmanship, especially in MS (e.g. Viktor gave away a point by intentionally doing a wrong serve).
Hawk-Eye uses cameras to calculate the motion verses actually "seeing" where things land. I wouldn't trust it since it makes assumptions like spin and wind/air speed. That's why when high-speed and high resolution cameras on close calls can show Hawk-eye as inaccurate, which is when you want it to be accurate the most. That's the only time it matters, right? When things are super close and crucial to the outcome of a match/contest? For badminton's small court size, a good high-speed camera replay system would be better than calculating trajectories.
Referees cannot overule umpires except where there is a misinterpretation if a badminton law. Umpires will almost never change their initial decision if a player complains.
I don’t think umpire should be allowed with too much power and players should be allowed to watch the replay rather than Hawkeye. This Video should go the all badminton federations
that's why linemen are really important on sports that has outside ruling. even if it's as small as a badminton court. as the umpire in the middle won't an accurate call if the ball goes down below his height (because of how high his chair is) on badminton the game is always a 1v1v1 on singles and 2v2v1 on doubles VAR isn't even 100% reliable yet. a physical camera is your most trustworthy ally on most games.
Since badminton has grow heavily over the past years, I think they should look at how other sports invested better in their technology to make the game a lot fair. Volleyball is one sport badminton should look into with their challenge system, from touching the net, line calls where the cameras broadcasted has a better effect on the Hawkeye decision, and double hits from players. Currently nothing has changed until the Hawkeye introduction in 2013-14 and BWF have enough funding to invest in better technology to keep the sport fair
A legal serve in badminton is done in one motion forward, from the instance of backswing into the service execution. Serving like Astrup did is actually illegal and considered a fault (point awarded to opponent) because it has the effect of faking the opponent to move before the actual serve takes place. This is very disadvantageous for the player receiving the service. Astrup knew perfectly well what he was doing when he did that, look at his smug body language after the shot when he walks up to the net to eye down the german player.
Korea is famous for playing the dirtiest in 2002 Korea and Japan are the hosts, this is my personal opinion if it's not correct, hope everyone understands. 🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇫🇯
considering a career change to be a badminton chair umpire. i don't know much about the game but by the looks of this, none of the other umpires do either
I agree these are few moments when they got it wrong but if u compare this to all the right decisions all the time then this has no significance . Overall umpires n line judges are doing a grt job , bear in mind that they are humans as well
I remember I saw a game back in 2006 Olympics, and the umpire made a bad call on an out and refused to refer it. That's when I knew this sport is rigged at the highest level. This video strengthens my belief.
back in the day while waiting for the challenge to be shown, they give us a closer look where the shuttle hit the ground. now i wonder why didn't they show it anymore.
If referee would have noticed it then there is room for cheating but the referee didnot noticed it,(if you give room for cheating they will cheat),this would have been avoided if referee would have paid attention there.
There was one more of sapsiree taeratanachai where she swerved to avoid the shuttle but the shuttle touched her body. The shuttle was declared out and her side was given the point.
The hawkeye technology is not quite there in badminton yet. Better to have some slow mo replay. Line judges with this kind of speeds are useless in my opionion. Clearly los of mistakes are being made. In this case judges could be in a tower like main referee, to see better the landing spot.
I think there should be a test for umpires, including an EYESIGHT test. Most of the umpires are old and I doubt that they all have the best vision. Another test should be of common sense. There should be an official umpire making school or something cause one personal mistake can destroy someones match or even their ENTIRE career .
@@Kupoinfo it can be a very slow "sport" , I'll warn you now- it's like a more tactical pool 😂 but if they brush a ball with their hand or the cue or something and the referee doesn't see, the player will almost always stand up immediately and tell them. Similarly, there's a mechanic where if they don't hit a legal ball the opponent might have them try again, which involves the ref resetting the position of all the balls on the table, and the player will usually help them get it exactly right no matter how hard the shot might be. It's the epitome of fair play, in my opinion- they could just as easily lie and try making the shot easier for themselves, but they don't.
With the shuttle sometimes travelling at speeds in excess of 300kph VAR is a great help on controversial line calls. Human eyes cannot be like eagle eyes correct ?
Can't they just use the slow mo footage from the Hawkeye cameras for a human to make decisions? Getting cameras with 120 fps should be no big deal these days and be sufficient. Maybe we can then get other angles of cameras apart from the shitty back view from high above where you can't judge neither length nor height. Cameras like 4 meters high to the back of the field at the sides are ideal. Maybe not suitable up to semi finals when 4 courts are played parallel but with only 2 courts needed this should work out. Just have a look at the Lee Chong Wei Special Edition of Japan Open. In these videos you get a real sense of the players speed and athleticism.
I dunno how much a line man/woman is paid but it's a tedious job and definitely prone to errors. As for players, i really wish the elite should set an example of true sportsmanship every chance they get so we can have NO more of such videos which passes us second hand embarassment. I love Badminton.
Chou vs hans kyknya cuma pas garis,in. Tpi jd jauh di dlm garis. Shida susah payah jangkau sutlecock dan wasit anggap udah nyentuh lapangan. Sdgkan sapsire yg ngembaliin suttlecock pantulan malah di sahkan wasit. Kyknya mmg perlu VAR. Penyiaran bwf udah bagus.tinggal minta ulangan video aja,dan wasit bisa liat buat ngerubah kputusan awal. Di saat hawk eye jg udah ber-kali" terlihat error.
dari video diatas bwf memang condong ke pemain eropa ternyata itu dari dulu...rasis bgt..
@@mhusnithamrin6044 kesimpulan macam apa itu, kalau memang begitu kenapa asia sering menang...
Betul,, dari dulu BWF emang mihak ke eropa...
Knp asia sering menang? Krn memang kualitas seringkali di atas pemain eropa
I don't trust the challenge camera, no matter what happen.. that's nonsense. That's the point.
BWF is so poor ....they don't use high resolution hawk eye camera... Poor Badminton federation..
most importantly umpires must be willing to acknowledge their own mistakes and stop taking things personally. I don't know why umpires had to behave in such an authoritived way?
Yes, so far i see the umpires look like a dictator
The umpires see themselves as God 'ol Mighty that can do no wrong. That arrogant stance can't be challenged and if any player states otherwise then it's an instant yellow card. That's the curse of the sport.
@@bluemarlin2u last case on the BAC when Pusarla V Sindhu vs Akane Yamaguchi, i don't surely know what cause it but Pusarla seem very upset with the umpire, and it affected her performance on the court,
Umpires and line judges are only human and make mistakes, but they are mostly right. If they do not act sure players will take advantage and challenge every decision. Allowing video review (if available) would be a step forward.
Please remember that they are unpaid volunteers who give their free time for the sport.
@@pauldodd2120 Players cant simply just challenge umpires' decision though, because we do have a referee in court. So such acts that obviously go against the rules will certainly be noticed by the referee. In this case, we want to highlight that umpires should be more considerate and fair in umpiring the game.
Lastly, umpires certainly get paid so they are expected to do their best in their professional job. While there are unpaid volunteers who serve as linesmen, it doesn't give them the right or pass to judge the line poorly in-game, is not it? Especially not in the world-class game? Don't you think so.
This hurts me as a badminton lover, even though the players aren't from my country. Cannot even imagine how was the players' feeling being cheated like that. Umpire sometimes realized they made a wrong call, but too ashamed to acknowledge their mistakes.
Kaya Kevin songong ya
Some of those umpire don't even know how to play, they seems hired as part time and don't know the rules, they are just the best person to become umpire among their country committee
Yea and then they have to waste a challenge on it
And the worst sportsmanship trophy goes to danish players. All they care is winning and at any cost. Axelson being the only exception.. a true champ
Happy that the Danish girls lost the Rio women doubles final. Such a cheat.
And good thing that Astrup cannot win any title
That's absolutely true. I really don't like the women's danish player 🤮
All danish players excluding axelsen
Antonsen is nice tho
I think BWF should add additional replay, like VAR on football
Yes bro that's makes more value to our sport
sure it's great BUT there is a downside, it can delay the game and kill momentum. this will be taken advantage of by one side.
@@ronlyon4645 it they introduce it may be players are getting adopt those situation, finally right thing will win in the end
All the unfair means were f**k
@@ronlyon4645 can let the players have limited attempts, just like hawkeye.
This is why BWF doesnt do slow motion replays a lot anymore on where the shuttle lands, and on players serving. They want to protect the line judges, service judges, and the hawkeyes from being complained
protection to keep cheating.
correction: they want to protect a liar
This explains it..often during the games even with clear straight camera views my vision is different from hawkeye..and almost everytime when hawkeye is used they dont show real replay with the same angle..i always thought what i see would have been due to the bounce and shuttle adjustment..but now i know that i was not always wrong in my vision.
That hawkeye is a bad joke
Perhaps they used previous games or made lots of simulations and stored them in files, so if there is a challenge, they can select whether they want the shuttlecock in or out and choose the file accordingly.
@@roghs8100 yes i agree with you 😅
the problem with hawkeye is that it doesn't actually show where the shuttle landed, but a prediction of where the shuttle most likely landed to a certain degree of accuracy, based on plotting its flight path via measurements taken at various points during its flight. we all know that the flight of a shuttle can deviate sharply for any number of reasons
all danish pair have at least committed ONE cheating on a high level tournament. very embarrassing of them. juhl, pedersen and astrup are so shameless.
Korean players aren't better
Westerners are cheaters anyway
Just remember London olympics dude. that match fixing attempt deserve lifetime ban.
The fact that they lost makes it so much better
I think this is the one of the area Badminton is behind from other sports, things like this happens match referee should watch reply what's happened there without knowing anything just came to court then they convince the player to play that not good for badminton and i still don't understand what is happened to Hawkeye 😅
Trully agree with your oppinion and as a pray or wish that referee MUST TO SEE THE REVIEW!!!
Denmark's players are good actors 😂😂
cheaters and liars
That’s why they rarely win the match 😅😅
U mean GOOD cheaters. It clearly touched her BUT she denies it. That's good sportsmanship. LOL
France says hello 🤡
No doubt, only axelxen with a great integrity
The reasons the officials eliminated instant replays in many tournaments, is to eliminate ambiguities, between badly calibrated Hawkeyes, an real action. Let alone how convenient to turn matches around. You can say legalized cheating. It started with Danish players taking forever serving, and there is still no regulation for that.
Really not fond of the Danes players and hate it when players celebrate when they don't actually earn the point...
"In the 2007 Wimbledon Championships a shot that appeared to be out, was called by Hawk-Eye as in by 1 mm, a distance smaller than the advertised mean error of 3.6 mm.[46] Some commentators have criticised the system's 3.6 mm statistical margin of error as too large.[47] Others have noted that while 3.6 mm is extraordinarily accurate, this margin of error is only for the witnessed trajectory of the ball." Wikipedia
Not sure why theynuse hawkeye instead of putting cameras on the lines. 1000% more accurate. Just look at thenfirst couple videos , how hawkeye was wrong because camera was able to capture the real landing.
It happened to watanabes mixed game recently as well where his cross court save was called out. When clearly in
I don't know why they use Hawkeye in Badminton, it does not work due to the unpredictable drift with the shuttlecock when it rotates. Tennis balls and cricket balls are different and easily predictable.
Think its bad in Badminton..... you should see Galeic football it had to be disconnected during a semi final for making horrendous errors.
Well done uploader! You have clearly exposed the badminton officials' poor judgement & in calibrating Hawkeye.
Need to include the 2022 Thomas cup footage as well. Court 3 has no Hawkeye and the umpire is clearly siding on Team India 😏 many lose points due to his one sided behavior
Danish the shuttle hit juhl’s hip and pederson double hit the shuttle. Well done danish. Lol
And they were proud of their win. That’s disgusting Lol
Danish players should get badminton cup and Oscar awards too.
The players, who worked so damn hard, deserve better than this treatment.
bwf loves Denmark,they can be blind whatever those players do.though Viktor Axelsen doesnt appear inthis vid,we also know how bwf loves him.as for korean,i think all asian countries know what they like doing
Just remember asian games beetween taufik hidayat vs korean player
For example, by manipulating the air conditioning vents to change the wind direction of the field. The shameless judges shown in the film are really just the tip of the iceberg.
What's wrong with the Koreans?
@@Dkfckzk Korean soccer team is so good beat Italy 🇮🇹 any day😝
Fr!!! Especially umpires from Europe. Some are very biased towards players from Denmark.
badminton is a sport that has been around for a decade already , and we are currently in 2022 . the tech that they use is suppose to be able to help players to play fair and square . and most importantly , the referee is suppose to be more precise with their decision bases on the given tech . badminton is a healthy and most played sports in the world , dont ruined it .
a decade or a century?
@@kisekki8757 im sorry , its probably a century 😅
I wonder how badminton is a most played sport(s) in the world.
If Badminton has only been around for a decade then I think i must have invented it without realising, playing in the garden in the early 2000s 😂
A decade!? Amazing that I played it in school 20 years ago and it was even played in the 19th century.
Thanks for the video. The graphic display from Hawkeye placed it wrongly as well within the baseline (Singles - He Bing Jao). It should have display marginally within the end edge of the baseline. It look out at first but if you look carefully at the angle of the shuttle, it is leaning slightly away from the vertical. This placed the cock semi-circle edge within the end edge of the baseline. Lately, they have been careful to display the correct representation and not just simply put a dark circle on a line to indicate that it was in.
As for those shots taken twice, which is not allowed, the umpire may have not notice it and he/she cannot rule if they did not see. If it was me, since there was a protest and I did not see it, I will call both sides to explain the situation and offer a compromise by proposing playing a let. Of course, the winning side would say no but at the very least, I try to do something rather than seat on the chair and remain inert.
a game like badminton should rely more on high speed high definition cameras instead of faulty hawkeye. Hawkeye is notorious for faulty judgement and not so reliable. Also the umpire seems to always have this "im in charge here and you cant do sh*t" mentality and never acknowledge whenever theres a potential fault occured. they just shrugged it of most of the times.
I don't understand why hawkeye is fault, hawkeye use camera as well and present it in inforgraphic manner.
Hawkeye in Tennis has proven itself far more reliable than any line judges honestly... it just sounds like the Hawkeye in these select clips is badly calibrated or something
Badminton is super fast. Dirty plays I think is like that small guy from Denmark with his stupid annoying serve. And the rest of the video is just normal things can happen. We dont have VAR like in football, but the hawkeye is there, I think that is enough to help anyone involved.
However fast it is, line calls aside, I think you'd always know if you yourself are cheating, e.g. double hitting, or the shuttle touching your body etc.
I'm pretty sure the point of this video is hawkeye isn't as accurate as video replay. So hawkeye shouldn't be used when video replay is available
dirty dirty danes. one of the most dishonest players... astrup
agree
agree.. the same woman...
@@mysticker2u Juhl... glad we don't see her anymore 🤦🏻♀️
attrocious! they should have the ability to review calls like these
I really love the way the Denmark team won 1 point at Rio Olympic, what a unsporting behavior! LOL. They was so happy after making an disappointing action.
That Denmark WD just too dirty.
i think hawkeye is not 100% reliable, and if its not 100% reliable then whats the point? i think many pros and fans (esp those who watch more badminton videos on youtube) are gradually losing trust in hawkeye. everyone thought its 100% accurate but its not.
i think badminton should follow football's VAR system, where you just show a slow motion replay multiple times to the umpire/judge and they can see/judge if its in or not. and i think this system is much cheaper than Hawkeye for sure and is definitely more reliable.
The IRS is about 98% reliable. A 100% reliable system would probably cost millions. However, the IRS should automatically pick the spot the shuttle lands, instead of needing somebody to look at the frames and choose.
Just like the radar system is not 100% reliable. You can get close but 100% is never truly achievable.
So many Danish on the video. 😂
yes. i noticed
@@kyle618 somehow the dirty plays always involve them
so i search who's the bwf president, and no surprise
and korean (in korea)
Admin what do u think abt the PV Sindhu controversy at Asia Badminton championships 2022 ?
Probably there were 2 incidents in that tournament against Sindhu , quite funny and horrendous
Exactly it is not even included in the compilation. It is such a SHAME
some errors in technology and the limitations of the human eye in my opinion are still reasonable.
Akane x shindu on asian championship 2022 was the worst.. how could be the referee didn't understand the rules
Never liked Juhl and Pedersen. Now we have a reason not to. Don't like Astrup and Rasmussen either. Nothing against the Danish as a whole, as I think HKV is pretty cool.
Shida Chiharu hit the shuttle BEFORE it landed. Not the case for Sapsiree at the end there.
Sapsiree had played dirty another time. She swerved to avoid the shuttle which actually touched her.
peterson and juhl.....
and sometimes juhl's attitude was quite terrible
Tis Les couple always dirty play. I hv seen too many time from them. No sportsmanship at all. Quite surprised came from Denmark.
Agree
the umpire should be punished for every wrong call he/she makes.
You try being a line judge then.
😂
@@pauldodd2120 Well, rather than a blind umpire, why not have good HD cams giving score?
Woow...amazing batminthon 🤞♥️
most of Danish players know they played unfair but the still unsportsmanlike towards it.. and there's one time that the Danish team was called foul every time they serve.. that's the accumulated Karma for them :))
Just a few are dirty. Mainly by the same Dane
The rest just poor hawk eyes and referees
Sorry, here I have a question. It’s my first time to see the result of a challenging show “no decision.” What does that mean by “no decision?” Does it mean the device doesn’t work or?
Never see any Japanese pair committing this
Ternyata permainan bulu tangkis asean-asian lebih murni karena bermain menggunakan kejujuran ketimbang bulutangkis ala barat ((
Long live Asean 🤩🤩
Hanya Japan dan Asean yg lebih jujur. China dan korea teruk.
0:32 love those Korean hawkeyes
Even HawkEye knows to admit when it isn't sure of the call, but the umpires have perfect eyesight and decisionmaking that cannot possibly be wrong. Sad
I feel unfairly for those player who should have gotten the point.
paling gemes sama pedersen, 2x touch malah selebrasi, at least tau malu lah ya, karma langsung dibayar lunas, misaya yg dapat gold, sedangkan tante denmark nangis dipojokan gagal emas🤣
About the Hawkeye I think it can't be called 'dirty play' cuz the Hawkeye is all about calculations with some deviations
or rather the shuttle is moving at such a fast speed and the camera is looking at the point of contact at an angle ....
Like any electronic device, it can be tempered
It's not Hawkeye, but IRS (Instant Review System). The problem is that unlike Hawkeye, the point where the shuttle lands is placed manually from highspeed frames for the simulation, so there is an element of human error, especially when it was first introduced. It's rare that the decision is wrong, but the placement of the shuttle may often seem unrelated to reality.
@@jeffreyraymondarthur230 Difficult with 10 overhead cameras and backup cameras on each line. Also what's the point? It would soon be found out.
Definitely needs some calibration if its off by that much.
Badminton is very fast-paced game. There is always a scope for a wrong judgement (intentional and unintentional) by both players and the umpire. A better review system should be in place. Umpires should acknowledge their missjudgement. And players should show better sportmanship e.g body contact, double hit, in/out decition. But again, it's a fast game so, sometimes, players themselves are unaware of thier mistakes. There are quiet a few examples of good sportmanship, especially in MS (e.g. Viktor gave away a point by intentionally doing a wrong serve).
Hawk-Eye uses cameras to calculate the motion verses actually "seeing" where things land. I wouldn't trust it since it makes assumptions like spin and wind/air speed. That's why when high-speed and high resolution cameras on close calls can show Hawk-eye as inaccurate, which is when you want it to be accurate the most. That's the only time it matters, right? When things are super close and crucial to the outcome of a match/contest? For badminton's small court size, a good high-speed camera replay system would be better than calculating trajectories.
Hawkeye technology in badminton is "low quality"
The referee is "NOOB"
Referees cannot overule umpires except where there is a misinterpretation if a badminton law. Umpires will almost never change their initial decision if a player complains.
I don’t think umpire should be allowed with too much power and players should be allowed to watch the replay rather than Hawkeye. This Video should go the all badminton federations
that's why linemen are really important on sports that has outside ruling. even if it's as small as a badminton court.
as the umpire in the middle won't an accurate call if the ball goes down below his height (because of how high his chair is)
on badminton the game is always a 1v1v1 on singles and 2v2v1 on doubles
VAR isn't even 100% reliable yet. a physical camera is your most trustworthy ally on most games.
It happens again, 😂
Since badminton has grow heavily over the past years, I think they should look at how other sports invested better in their technology to make the game a lot fair. Volleyball is one sport badminton should look into with their challenge system, from touching the net, line calls where the cameras broadcasted has a better effect on the Hawkeye decision, and double hits from players. Currently nothing has changed until the Hawkeye introduction in 2013-14 and BWF have enough funding to invest in better technology to keep the sport fair
And all the player, you guys must play with honesty and fairness.
It is better to you to give the description for each event, because we don't know what happen
Noob question, what was the issue with the serve at 2:53? Was it that he made two upward movements?
Yes, you cant fake a serve like that.
It throws your opponent off balance
A legal serve in badminton is done in one motion forward, from the instance of backswing into the service execution. Serving like Astrup did is actually illegal and considered a fault (point awarded to opponent) because it has the effect of faking the opponent to move before the actual serve takes place. This is very disadvantageous for the player receiving the service. Astrup knew perfectly well what he was doing when he did that, look at his smug body language after the shot when he walks up to the net to eye down the german player.
4:10 that face will never get olympic gold
The funny thing is most of them are Denmark 😂
Good to show how BWF weakness is.. hope they able to improve..
there should be no need for animation technology like that, just install the camera on the top and side to show the original
Korea is famous for playing the dirtiest in 2002 Korea and Japan are the hosts, this is my personal opinion if it's not correct, hope everyone understands. 🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷🇫🇯
considering a career change to be a badminton chair umpire. i don't know much about the game but by the looks of this, none of the other umpires do either
I agree these are few moments when they got it wrong but if u compare this to all the right decisions all the time then this has no significance . Overall umpires n line judges are doing a grt job , bear in mind that they are humans as well
What Christinna Pedersen did was very wrong. Double shot was very bad
wow ,nice .open my mind.
I remember I saw a game back in 2006 Olympics, and the umpire made a bad call on an out and refused to refer it. That's when I knew this sport is rigged at the highest level. This video strengthens my belief.
Hawkeye lol 😂😂😂
They have to see how's Hendra/Ahsan fair play in the court.
They were treated dirty by the umpire today in Malaysa Open 2022.
These are all great compilation videos but would you please not use music? Thanks.
back in the day while waiting for the challenge to be shown, they give us a closer look where the shuttle hit the ground. now i wonder why didn't they show it anymore.
I just thought before this hawk eye really becoming official, super slow motion with really high fps and resolution would do much better
Can someone tell me what was the problem at 2:11? Were they saying the birdie hit the ground? It looks like a clean play to me.
Haek Eye turn into Cheat Eye 😆
the judge wearing glasses? sure his eyes still works
Teryata tak seadil yg d bayang kan 😂
Its not dirty play by player,this is because of poor or bad referees of bwf.
accept for that first one man, she acted like nothing was wrong even though she knew for a fact it was a double contact.
What about astrup?
If referee would have noticed it then there is room for cheating but the referee didnot noticed it,(if you give room for cheating they will cheat),this would have been avoided if referee would have paid attention there.
Amazing job by Shuttle Strong
There was one more of sapsiree taeratanachai where she swerved to avoid the shuttle but the shuttle touched her body. The shuttle was declared out and her side was given the point.
The hawkeye technology is not quite there in badminton yet. Better to have some slow mo replay. Line judges with this kind of speeds are useless in my opionion. Clearly los of mistakes are being made. In this case judges could be in a tower like main referee, to see better the landing spot.
0:47 Thats why I always confused on how Hawkeye works 🤔
Huh why are the instant replays and tracking cams not lined up?
How to win badminton ?
Danish : "cheat is a good way, skill's are not important. If you get caught, be an actor " 🤡
Ritter Juhl funny as hell
That hawkey error was such a dirty play 🙄
The last Korean tournament was unprepared. Shame on them!
When the controversial decisions happens in an asian and european encounters, the europeans gets the advantages every single time.
I think there should be a test for umpires, including an EYESIGHT test. Most of the umpires are old and I doubt that they all have the best vision. Another test should be of common sense. There should be an official umpire making school or something cause one personal mistake can destroy someones match or even their ENTIRE career .
When Hawkeye is getting old and have cataract. 😁
Yang WD jelas kena kaosnya..jepang di curangi
Badminton Umpires are the worst judges in the game. Extremely ARROGANT
Human never admit the wrong.. always right lol..
thank god juhl and pedersen bottled the 2016 olympics, served them rightl lololol
Use hawk eye for decision
Replay Camera : sorry i'm useless
Buat apa nyari yang mudah kalo bisa dipersulit wkwkwk
I wish sportsmanship across all sports was as good as Cricket.
Or snooker. Make fun of it all you will, but the players will own up to the minutest of fouls even if it costs them the match.
@@DevilboyScooby I suppose I'll have to start looking into snooker. I've heard of it before but never seen a match.
@@Kupoinfo it can be a very slow "sport" , I'll warn you now- it's like a more tactical pool 😂 but if they brush a ball with their hand or the cue or something and the referee doesn't see, the player will almost always stand up immediately and tell them.
Similarly, there's a mechanic where if they don't hit a legal ball the opponent might have them try again, which involves the ref resetting the position of all the balls on the table, and the player will usually help them get it exactly right no matter how hard the shot might be. It's the epitome of fair play, in my opinion- they could just as easily lie and try making the shot easier for themselves, but they don't.
Umpire should have instant replay in his/her little screen! Come on it's not 1990, some of the mistakes can be easily avoided!
With the shuttle sometimes travelling at speeds in excess of 300kph VAR is a great help on controversial line calls. Human eyes cannot be like eagle eyes correct ?
Can't they just use the slow mo footage from the Hawkeye cameras for a human to make decisions? Getting cameras with 120 fps should be no big deal these days and be sufficient. Maybe we can then get other angles of cameras apart from the shitty back view from high above where you can't judge neither length nor height. Cameras like 4 meters high to the back of the field at the sides are ideal. Maybe not suitable up to semi finals when 4 courts are played parallel but with only 2 courts needed this should work out.
Just have a look at the Lee Chong Wei Special Edition of Japan Open. In these videos you get a real sense of the players speed and athleticism.
Pakai Video Assistant Referee jangan Hawkeye.. krna beda dgn Teknologi Goal line decision nya sepakbola yg menaruh chip dibola serta garis gawangnya.
Just use high speed camera for super slow motion video playback.. it's already 2022.
high tech but not accurate
I dunno how much a line man/woman is paid but it's a tedious job and definitely prone to errors.
As for players, i really wish the elite should set an example of true sportsmanship every chance they get so we can have NO more of such videos which passes us second hand embarassment.
I love Badminton.