US Ukraine aid breaks deadlock while European allies consider Iron Dome style defences

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • The success of Israel and allies defences against Iran's missile strikes has led to some to ask US aid to Ukraine could set a template for a European copies of Iran's Iron Dome defence systems.
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  • @enculpius
    @enculpius 5 месяцев назад +24

    i'm so glad the conversation is shifting to how money is spent rather than how much. far more important.

  • @TheSkaffen
    @TheSkaffen 5 месяцев назад +47

    The whole of Society must come together to rebuild our military might. We need a strong leader to drive us through this decade of war!

    • @DacianRider
      @DacianRider 5 месяцев назад +3

      amen

    • @tonybenn1000
      @tonybenn1000 5 месяцев назад

      Right on mate, how else are we to steal Russia's Oil like we stole Iraq's, and Syria's and Libya's and the list go's on and on, "if you know what I'm talking about" mate.

    • @СемёнРеввоенсовет
      @СемёнРеввоенсовет 5 месяцев назад

      There was a trifle left. Find a strong leader. In the meantime, we see semi-literate idiots. They have problems with basic secondary education.

    • @PraneshSacher
      @PraneshSacher 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, absolutely we have to come together to rebuild our military might. If we don't have a strong leader, we need to have a strong mind and a strong will ... welcome, we are at the starting point of this enormous change ..... :)

  • @KirsiVackelin
    @KirsiVackelin 5 месяцев назад +26

    > set a template for a European copies of Iran's Iron Dome defence systems.
    Surely you meant Israel's?

  • @Alicja1Fenigsen
    @Alicja1Fenigsen 5 месяцев назад +54

    Iron Dome for Ukraine was the first thing on everyone's mind, and the answer then was: "impossible for an area this large" ?!?

    • @yevgeni10
      @yevgeni10 5 месяцев назад

      They will had to install twice the number that Israel have.

    • @washuneluvhada7616
      @washuneluvhada7616 5 месяцев назад +2

      😂 nevermind the cost is in the billions... Either way Israel and US help and 72 hours warning from Iran.. even then they got hit two air bases and a intelligence centre in tel aviv

    • @yevgeni10
      @yevgeni10 5 месяцев назад

      @@washuneluvhada7616 That not true, even the US said it was fake news.

    • @rogerhall6021
      @rogerhall6021 5 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@washuneluvhada7616and did less human damage than an Alec Baldwin filmset .

    • @richardsanders.4624
      @richardsanders.4624 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@washuneluvhada7616 Money is NOTHING compared to human lives. Well unless your Russian and Vova is involved because the price of a Russian son is a bag of onions.

  • @bryonyallan2202
    @bryonyallan2202 5 месяцев назад +59

    Johnson/Trump TOXIC!

  • @ComaDave
    @ComaDave 5 месяцев назад +7

    "breaks deadlock" is present tense. It hasn't happened yet.

    • @StillAliveAndKicking_
      @StillAliveAndKicking_ 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, click bait title.

    • @kummer45
      @kummer45 5 месяцев назад

      There is a degree on certainty. That bill already passed. The rest is a public stunt to confuse Russia. US knows how to play politics better than Russia.

  • @EricaFiore
    @EricaFiore 5 месяцев назад +36

    Todays missile's are not the the V2missles that hit London 75 years ago Britain can build a missile system with Ukraine a shared friendship together. Ukraine has the knowledge Britain has the means together.

    • @Frank-Thoresen
      @Frank-Thoresen 5 месяцев назад +5

      Absolutely. I thought about the same. UK needs to create national revenues and working with Ukraine could escalate the British defense industry with up-to-date warfare knowledge.
      Europe needs to ramp up its own military defense industry and UK should concentrate on specific equipments and missiles like the Storm Shadow, air defense and drone technologies.

    • @schloops8473
      @schloops8473 5 месяцев назад

      @@Frank-Thoresen yah but the corrupt make more money by having massive budgets and providing nothing and since our politcians, media and generals are all on the take...

    • @garyrumsby3330
      @garyrumsby3330 5 месяцев назад +1

      Briton should sort its own problems out and stop meddling in every other country’s affairs

    • @everTriumph
      @everTriumph 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@garyrumsby3330 Every other country seems to want to meddle in Britain's affairs which make sorting problems problematic.

    • @Benjamin-hg018
      @Benjamin-hg018 5 месяцев назад

      The Russian offensive in the summer of 2024 will bring down the Ukrainian front line. This is reported by Politico with reference to high-ranking officers.

  • @michaelnannestad7399
    @michaelnannestad7399 5 месяцев назад +29

    We have no defence against missiles?- We seem to have no doctors,dentists,decent roads & hardly any hospitals properly staffed either.
    But we do have thousands of our newly arrived 'friends' ensconced in 4star hotels while many ex soldiers live on the streets.They are not a good advert for joining the services.

    • @ArthurTanner-d7s
      @ArthurTanner-d7s 5 месяцев назад +2

      Would you like to sit in your safe space for a while and hug your special blanket?

    • @nikolaucznaum4312
      @nikolaucznaum4312 5 месяцев назад +4

      Don't forget, the UK with Germay financed the whole EU infrastructure project for 45 years!!....

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 5 месяцев назад +4

      Don’t forget our nuclear deterrent does not work

    • @suburbia2050
      @suburbia2050 5 месяцев назад +3

      What's a 6 star hotel? Decent roads? Why are people buying ever heavier and pricey vehicles to take their overweight bodies 4 miles to the supermarket? Perhaps they should start to pay for the damage they cause. Same for a largely unhealthy population filling up the wards.

    • @michaelnannestad7399
      @michaelnannestad7399 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@suburbia2050
      Auto non correct altered it from 4 to 6 stars.

  • @mtam7575
    @mtam7575 5 месяцев назад +6

    This will be very disappointing that no missiles defence for UK, I don't think so.

    • @bobthebomb1596
      @bobthebomb1596 5 месяцев назад

      Not sure what you mean?
      It's true that there is very little in the way of ground based air defence for the UK.
      There are a few Sky Sabre units (One in the Falklands, one currently deployed to Poland), which are good but of limited range and capability. Then we are down to short range, man portable weapons.
      There is limited capability if a Type 45 destroyer happens to be in port and crewed, but even that is currently only able to intercept short range ballistic missiles.
      The UK possesses nothing with the capability of the Israeli Arrow 2/3, SM3, Patriot PAC3 or THAAD.

    • @carlabroderick5508
      @carlabroderick5508 5 месяцев назад

      If Putin is defeated, no one needs missile defense for awhile. Defeating Putin will even deter China.

  • @davidoliver7510
    @davidoliver7510 5 месяцев назад +16

    It's actually Kyiv Keeve not Kiev Kiev is the Russian word. And Kyiv is not Russian. Ukraine 🇺🇦 is Ukraine.

    • @themcgeachys
      @themcgeachys 5 месяцев назад

      Chicken ones out of ice land mmmmm

    • @PNH-sf4jz
      @PNH-sf4jz 5 месяцев назад +3

      As a request and with respect,
      KyivNotKiev is an online campaign to persuade English-language {speakers}, media and organizations to exclusively use Kyiv as the name of the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv.
      (derived from the Ukrainian-language 'Київ')
      instead of Kiev which is
      (derived from the Russian-language 'Киев')
      💙 🇺🇦 💛 🔱 💚 🇦🇺 💛

    • @BabbaYagga
      @BabbaYagga 5 месяцев назад

      Hahahahahaha, and it is Lindin, not London!

  • @valmikabeneteau7229
    @valmikabeneteau7229 5 месяцев назад +8

    The US defense budgets for decades has been to mainly counter the Russian threat. Recently (possibly thanks to Ukraine) China has taken 1st position. Since the last couple of years our annual defense budgets have exceeded 800 billion I'd say 60 billion to Ukraine is a heck of a deal to finally close the Russian issue with none of our boots on the ground so we can concentrate on the next real threat.

    • @benachiesween
      @benachiesween 5 месяцев назад

      US controls over 1,000 overseas military bases, Russia has 29 China has fewer. Russia is the threat ??? What utter nonsense.

    • @danielculpepper9258
      @danielculpepper9258 5 месяцев назад

      Keep giving …😂😂😂

  • @StPiter111
    @StPiter111 5 месяцев назад +2

    Does UK have any air defence systems? Let me guess, nothing modern and just a few can operate better than Trident?

  • @nils4137
    @nils4137 5 месяцев назад +5

    The video description looks like it was written by a 12 year old....

    • @nozhki-busha
      @nozhki-busha 5 месяцев назад

      No it wasnt written by the Russian MOD 🤣

    • @gearingonline
      @gearingonline 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for saying what I thought. It’s surprising for a national newspaper. Perhaps they had a long lunch…

    • @StillAliveAndKicking_
      @StillAliveAndKicking_ 5 месяцев назад

      These days newspapers can’t afford to pay adults.

  • @icu17siberia
    @icu17siberia 5 месяцев назад +22

    thanks to Putin's "Defense Incentive Program". He deserves credit for NATO expansion and "DIP". Nice job!

    • @washuneluvhada7616
      @washuneluvhada7616 5 месяцев назад

      NATO weapons & EU are depleted to critical levels😂 paper tigers

    • @nozhki-busha
      @nozhki-busha 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@washuneluvhada7616 oh really, Ivan? You are doing to be very surprised indeed if Russia makes a fatal mistake and steps a foot into NATO land.

    • @washuneluvhada7616
      @washuneluvhada7616 5 месяцев назад

      @@nozhki-busha NATO already sent troops into Ukraine under the "foreign fighters" group , they all got shovelled...🤡
      This is Russia humiliating NATO at this point, Ukraine is irrelevant & on NATO life support, lost a year ago

    • @billy2807
      @billy2807 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@washuneluvhada7616 hahaha you cats are adorable.
      You can always tell what's true about a russian - because they will accuse you of the same thing:
      The rf begs NK and Iran for weapons? NATO IS OUT OF WEAPONS!
      The rf's military turns out to be a joke? NATO IS A PAPER TIGER!
      The ruble falls in value by 70%? THE DOLLAR IS DOOMED!
      So, you're saying the rf's weapons are depleted. Thanks for the heads up. I hope they're paying you in rubles, dude, because if you were getting real money to do this job...it would be an outrage.

    • @ospehu1
      @ospehu1 5 месяцев назад

      Keep dreeming Vatnik we have been prepaired for you for 80 years and you nave no clue what sits a next to your western boarderline already and due the DCA agreament there shall be much more in future.

  • @harrydecker8731
    @harrydecker8731 5 месяцев назад +1

    Untold billions have been spent to develop high-energy laser beam weapons that, according to military reports, can shoot down missiles and even drones in a fraction of a second. These lasers are land based and also mounted on war planes and naval ships. You need to look into this and make a report. If this laser technology works, there will be no need for missile defense systems.

  • @timmmyboi2
    @timmmyboi2 5 месяцев назад

    What we have no AWACs coverage! SERIOUSLY?

  • @nikolaucznaum4312
    @nikolaucznaum4312 5 месяцев назад +3

    Most UK citizens would forgo the soon-to-arrive Tory tax cuts to ensure the nation is adequately prepared!!...

    • @richardsanders.4624
      @richardsanders.4624 5 месяцев назад

      The Tories are finished. Labour will win the next election in the coming months and they'll actually invest in the military.

  • @daveymc172
    @daveymc172 5 месяцев назад +4

    This Great island has been a fortress for 1000 years, it's a no brained to me it a fortress again

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit 5 месяцев назад

      sure but what it means to be a fortress now is entirely different from the past. It means having forward-reaching military capabilities in conjuction with a coalition of close allies like the USa, and ideally even Germany if it can snap to it and get its military redeveloped, bcuz they are farther behind than even the Uk now! It will take germany ten years estimated, to get its military back to status of fifteen years ago! Let's get cracking!

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 5 месяцев назад

      Fortress lol!
      This island has been invaded so many times it’s impossible to know where the original population and culture ended and the new one began.
      Off the top of my head:
      - the Celts
      - the Romans
      - the Saxons
      - the Danes
      - the Normans
      - the Dutch
      Since Brexit, our borders have been completely open because we cannot afford the costs of checking imports upon which we are entirely dependent: one bad diseased animal or food product would absolutely devastate us. An no, the EU doesn’t check produce that is not destined for an EU member, despite what Mogg said.
      And as for immigration, the Tory government has issued visas to hundreds of thousands of Indians and Africans to replace the EU citizens in the NHS after the latter left, many of them under qualified or ‘self certified’. And that’s not including small boat asylum seekers.

    • @bobthebomb1596
      @bobthebomb1596 5 месяцев назад

      @@kirishima638 Yawn.
      Our borders were open before Brexit and produce was "checked" by the manufacturer not the EU.

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 5 месяцев назад

      @@bobthebomb1596 no, our borders WERE the EU as we were a member of the single market.
      Goods coming into the block were checked; beef entering Poland on its way to Britain was checked at the Polish border and wine entering Britain on its way to Italy was checked at the British border.
      Internal produce for internal markets was not checked because it had to be produced to high EU standards. Occasionally this failed eg the horse meat scandal, but for the most part it was safe because of the high standards.
      When Britain left the single market and became a third country, we lost all of these protections. Beef entering Poland for Britain is not checked and could be contaminated.
      We should be checking this stuff at our borders, just like Japan checks imports or America or any other country. But we’re not. We are wide open.
      This is great for EU exporters to Britain as it means no delays of costs and the Tories rely on this to fool the public into thinking everything is fine, and because carrying out checks would disrupt food supplies.
      It is terrible for British exporters who must process paperwork and costs to export into the block. Because France, Holland etc actually built processing centres for British goods in 2017, when May smugly triggered Article 50 despite having no clue what form Brexit would take, and when some Tories were still claiming we would remain in the single market.
      It’s also bad for British farmers and fishermen, who not only lost EU subsidies, they must continue to produce to EU standards despite no longer having any say in those standards.
      Do you get it now?

  • @xxjonboy
    @xxjonboy 5 месяцев назад +1

    We have land-based Sky Sabre but NATO air defences could stop a lot of missiles and drones over Europe before they even reached the UK. The prospect of the Russian navy firing on us from the Atlantic is pretty remote.

  • @Benjamin-hg018
    @Benjamin-hg018 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Russian offensive in the summer of 2024 will bring down the Ukrainian front line. This is reported by Politico with reference to high-ranking officers.

  • @omegaz3393
    @omegaz3393 5 месяцев назад +1

    Everyone is oblivious to the fact that Donald Trump signed off on more funding for Ukraine several months ago.
    It's only a couple Republicans(actually libertarians) that have been holding this up
    Their leverage is threatening to unseat Johnson. It only takes 1 to start things rolling. That's house rules for either party.
    It's only a problem when your party only holds a slim margin.

  • @johnnorman7044
    @johnnorman7044 5 месяцев назад +1

    it's all very well but who is going to make this stuff we don't make stuff here in the uk it takes years to train engineers who can make this stuff we just stack things up in shops and sell it and most of it comes from else where not the uk

  • @phillipneale5256
    @phillipneale5256 5 месяцев назад

    I think its a given to have an iron dome system.
    We definitely need something as our armed forces wouldn't cope if Russia invaded with scuds.
    The politicians of this country are totaly incompetent and need to step up to protect its people,after all protection of its people is its first priority.

  • @peterryan4851
    @peterryan4851 5 месяцев назад +7

    All major western countries should have layered air defence for critical infrastructure. Iron Done is one of Israel’s three layers.
    Ground to air defence is the cheapest sustainable system. Air to air defence is very expensive- requiring the air craft fleet and is dependent on expensive missiles.
    Layered defence can use a combination of laser, missiles and guns (CWIS).
    No country except Israel has adapted to life in the missile age.

    • @paulleigh7792
      @paulleigh7792 5 месяцев назад +1

      peterryan4851: for all that, the Israelis couldn’t detect or stop the terrorist attack on their border areas in October 2023!

    • @tonybenn1000
      @tonybenn1000 5 месяцев назад

      @@paulleigh7792 Well let me think a second, maybe our little friends thought, we have disarmed them, so all we had to fight were unarmed Women and Children?

  • @gregmchale5011
    @gregmchale5011 5 месяцев назад

    the USA is one f$$ked nation. a coup has taken place an unelected person has taken control of the government and nothing will happen without his approval. This person is fully aligned with Putin, the GOP is now the PUtin Party as they work to advance Russian goals in Ukraine.

  • @j.x.x.r3645
    @j.x.x.r3645 5 месяцев назад +1

    Correction: The description should refer to Israel's Iron dome, not Iran's

  • @bobbrown8661
    @bobbrown8661 5 месяцев назад

    Half-cocked is Britains strong-point.

  • @AUNEEKUZIRNAIM
    @AUNEEKUZIRNAIM 5 месяцев назад +1

    If money won't buy a better defense, then obviously the solution is more INTELLIGENT defense spending and more INTELLIGENT defense design.

  • @MrFish1968
    @MrFish1968 5 месяцев назад +4

    He says we don't have anything like iron dome, but don't we have Sky Sabre which has replaced the outgoing Rapier system?

    • @MrFish1968
      @MrFish1968 5 месяцев назад +1

      Plus the UK RAF was taking out some of the misses and drones from Iran, surely we have more RAF planes at home that the ones stationed near Isreal, to say we have nothing is a bit of a stretch.

    • @icu17siberia
      @icu17siberia 5 месяцев назад +2

      obviously Iron dome performance was impressive.

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit 5 месяцев назад

      @@icu17siberia fyi, iron dome is local level. The real risk/threat is the ballistic missiles which in Iran's attack required Israel to use a whole other system.

    • @bobthebomb1596
      @bobthebomb1596 5 месяцев назад

      We do, but in very limited numbers (one unit on the Falklands and one in Poland atm).
      We have nothing to take out long range ballistic missiles.

  • @IvaTaiwan
    @IvaTaiwan 5 месяцев назад +1

    50 countries and their puppet master USA proxy Ukraine against 🇷🇺Russia and they lost 😅😅

    • @kerriwilson7732
      @kerriwilson7732 5 месяцев назад +1

      Why are you anonymous?
      You'll never get the credit your genius deserves with a username. 🤡

  • @Johndeportationking-we1pi
    @Johndeportationking-we1pi 5 месяцев назад

    Lets remember the Russians wont be firing catusha,rockets. We saw iron dome couldn't do anything with iran .so lets not over play our hands please lets make peace

  • @KenC56mm
    @KenC56mm 5 месяцев назад +1

    A-10s would be more beneficial than the f-16 in my opinion

    • @midwesttraveler2485
      @midwesttraveler2485 5 месяцев назад

      Not really. They're too slow and there's too much integrated air defense along the lines of contact. That's why neither country has gained air superiority.

    • @KenC56mm
      @KenC56mm 5 месяцев назад

      @@midwesttraveler2485 Makes sense. I was thinking of ground cover. Air defense like you said would shoot em down quickly.

  • @michaelmullins3396
    @michaelmullins3396 5 месяцев назад

    Despite what solar head man says , Britain is perfectly safe from either Russia, China ,Iran or North Korea unless the British Government get funny and cause an existential threat to any of the above countries. However going by what Cameron and Macron has been threatening recently with their reckless suggestions for Ukraine the this situation could change quickly ,and rightly so.

  • @Evergreen0021
    @Evergreen0021 5 месяцев назад +1

    How can Europe have Iron Dome? Israel is tiny.

    • @_elix22
      @_elix22 5 месяцев назад

      Iron Dome can protect large areas , the Tamir missiles interceptors are placed on the border areas that need to be protected.
      For larger areas you would need more Iron Dome batteries.
      The best way to protect against missiles is to use 3 layer protection that Israel is using : Iron Dome , Davids Sling and Arrow 2/3.
      Such a 3 layer protection would be effective also against Russian attacks.

  • @andrewfoster1641
    @andrewfoster1641 5 месяцев назад +1

    Note well that modern armaments are cheaper by the dozen. When designing Patriot/Iron Dome systems, no one considered the scale of the current drone/missle throughput we're experiencing today. Computers get cheaper, and so will ABM loads.

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit 5 месяцев назад

      dozen...lol. Keep in mind that the first months of the war, Russia was lobbing 60K shells per day!!!!!!!!!! The production capacity in the west has to be increased a fair bit and immediately, by definition. If the gvt's are not doing this already then they are derelict, literally, and putting us in jeapordy. But even more importantly we must have high tech missile tech, that is where the serious money needs to be spent. That is unfortunately a fact.

  • @johnnywalker4490
    @johnnywalker4490 5 месяцев назад

    "Drone Wars" , Starting to Look Like Movie "Terminator" !! Who Knew...

  • @mrtankalotrctankschannel
    @mrtankalotrctankschannel 5 месяцев назад

    all of the support and development for defence has been privatised, of course it costs a fortune, they'd privatise the MOD if they could.

  • @johnnywalker4490
    @johnnywalker4490 5 месяцев назад

    IT Does Take R&D/ Money to stay AHEAD of our Enemies , or , bend over...

  • @artistjoh
    @artistjoh 5 месяцев назад

    I have to disagree on the Australia part of this equation. Australia is raising defense spending to 2.4% of GDP, is investing 5 billion dollars into Rolls Royce nuclear propulsion facility in the UK. They have committed to building 17 frigates, with some to be built overseas for delivery this decade, the rest built in Australia. Ultimately it will be building 8 to 12 nuclear powered submarines of the same type that the UK will be building.
    Rather than pulling back from Australia, the government needs to be making certain that 11 of those newly announced frigates are Type 31 frigates, with obvious benefits for British industry. Australia is already building Type 26 frigates. And in the long run, Australia will provide the economies of scale Britain so desperately needs for the AUKUS submarine project.
    It is very much a two way street with the Australians developing the Ghostshark drone submarine, which may become useful for the RAN, plus, with the Americans, developing a new class of drone missile ships.
    The refocus on Australia and the Indo/Pacific in recent years has been part of a resurgence of British naval manufacturing long term. Building missile defenses and North Atlantic defenses are essential, but get that defense spending increasing. 3% does not sound all that high, encourage Australia to also increase spending to 3% and build ships and missiles in both countries. We are all stronger by working cooperatively, and besides historic ties, Australia is an ally that is getting very serious about defense spending - it is a good country to have a very close defense relationship with.

  • @TheBaconWizard
    @TheBaconWizard 5 месяцев назад +3

    He is going to bring each part of the aid package in a seperate bill rather than together.

  • @marknicholson2281
    @marknicholson2281 5 месяцев назад

    There is a huge problem with British procurement. Ajax APC was a good system in use in other countries but the MOD wanted changes. For minimal gains we had massive cost increase a lack of compatibility and a suspension system that made troops sick. Astute and Dreadnaught submarine costs have skyrocketed as MoD change specs. We have aircraft carriers with no planes and both RAF and Navy had to go for the short range less capable version of the F35 because MoD wanted to save money on catapult. And we don’t have the ships to defend them.
    It’s a FUBAHR caused by our own systems which need an urgent overhaul.

  • @greycliffnative
    @greycliffnative 5 месяцев назад

    There is a huge difference between European allies. There are state-of-the-art systems during construction and deployment like Polish multiple layer defence structure and the countries with almost no plan and no money alocated in it, like the UK. The iron dome is simly the lowest layer of defence, created mostly against the cheapest flying devices. There is no point in coordinating of such a project within Europe and it is so difficult that almost impossible, taking into consideration specifics of the countries in a possible conflict. However, a kind of European cooperation in the highest layer of anti-ballistic defence (an equivalent of Israel’s Arrow 2, Arrow 3 and similar American systems) is a good idea. That is why the countries like Poland, France or Italy which are much more advanced in building the system could also join the initiative. Anyway… it is a very vague idea now and it will not deliver earlier than in next ten yeras. Please, don’t use the terms like ‘the iron dome’ misleadingly. Even if this discussion is interesting, there is a lot of ignorance in it.

  • @tumbullweed
    @tumbullweed 5 месяцев назад +1

    Why can’t we use some of our own ship missiles defence just placed on high land to get a better view we have old ships with them and just make new ones we do for ships and fit them on land same thing and cheaper than other similar defence batteries 🤷‍♂️👍🏼 makes sense ships do the same thing just at sea just fit them to high land also 🇬🇧🇺🇦👍🏼

  • @JaneSoole
    @JaneSoole 5 месяцев назад +1

    To your headline - When exactly? This year, next year, sometime, never?

  • @dharma404_
    @dharma404_ 5 месяцев назад

    Your 'Description' text is saying that Iran has an iron dome system that Europe wants to copy?
    hmmm... Who posts your videos and writes these very poorly worded descriptions? You sound like a bunch of amateurs 😅

  • @jiminverness
    @jiminverness 5 месяцев назад

    Of course there won't be a bill on the border brought forward unless completely unavoidable - if the border situation improves significantly, it could dent Trump's chances come election time.

  • @bowlingarry
    @bowlingarry 5 месяцев назад

    What part of any escalated war sees us needing a weapons defence system for conventional weapon attacks?
    Who could reach us? What circumstances would see them use conventional weapons over a prolonged period? How would one of the most densely populated countries in Europe be able to shoot down missiles safely without killing significant numbers in the process?
    If the missiles are coming from the east geographically id guess they will be travelling over many of our EU allies.... What will they have to say about missiles in their airspace?
    The absolute last thing we need to worry about is conventional missile attacks. If we have upped our involvement in either conflict to the extent that we are engaged in fully fledged war the weapons used will clearly wipe ourselves and the aggressor out instantly. I would expect the UK to use the most lethal response available if any nation dared to attack.

  • @zopEnglandzip
    @zopEnglandzip 5 месяцев назад

    Seems the armed forces share identical problems to the NHS, police and education with increasing amounts of cash going less distances the more politicians are allowed to benefit from contracts with private firms, the only logical solution is paying politicians more to set up a committee and tell us they need more money.
    After paying tax, mortgage, bills and food I almost broke even last month I'm sure I could spare another 5% or so.

  • @pfccalico7676
    @pfccalico7676 5 месяцев назад

    The Americans went through this problem during the 80s and 90s. Why did we not take a leaf out of their book? Also maybe not having such a top heavy military would be better?

  • @inzhener2007
    @inzhener2007 5 месяцев назад +2

    This Iranian strike helped everyone, but Ukraine, win:
    Iran has "retaliated".
    Netanyahu has "defended".
    USA has shown off the might*.
    Russia diverted help and attention from Ukraine.
    *USA doesn't negotiate with terrorists unless the terrorist has nukes. What will USA do next time when Iran tests a nuke?

    • @yurilytviak9066
      @yurilytviak9066 5 месяцев назад

      We see what happens to a country when american extortion forces it to disarm by surrendering its weapons to its historical , genocidal enemy….

    • @MartinLundström-l4v
      @MartinLundström-l4v 5 месяцев назад

      Things are unrawling....next US fronts will be......
      US - Cant handle one front.
      US - Can certainly not handle two fronts.
      US - With 3 COMPETING fronts, will effektivly paralyse any aktivity inside and outside US.

    • @richardsanders.4624
      @richardsanders.4624 5 месяцев назад

      Iran is going to be getting a BIG surprise from the Israeli's

  • @DoronL73
    @DoronL73 4 месяца назад

    Buy the right systems, now contracts are given for expensive and uncapable products for political reasons, not technically or cost effectiveness

  • @sparks1792
    @sparks1792 5 месяцев назад +1

    Please stop saying only republicans get mad about the border. We all do check any polls. I just don’t agree with things like pushing people back into the rio grande .

    • @richardsanders.4624
      @richardsanders.4624 5 месяцев назад

      The GOP is behind in every poll. Even in the red states their polling is at the lowest percentage points this century. MAGA has destroyed the Republican party like a cancer eating it away from the inside.

    • @kerriwilson7732
      @kerriwilson7732 5 месяцев назад

      The poor swimmers should knock on the front door instead of sneaking in illegally.
      If the legal path is a pointless bureaucratic tangle... democrats are in office, democrats should fix it.

  • @authenticeb
    @authenticeb 5 месяцев назад

    MTG is not right wing at all. Right wing left wing: neither. She’s plainly crazy bird.

  • @johnnywalker4490
    @johnnywalker4490 5 месяцев назад

    Some Billions Support Now , OR, 7 TRILLION $$ LATER is TOO Late...

  • @marknicholson2281
    @marknicholson2281 5 месяцев назад

    Please let NATO buy Patriot. It’s a proven system and Germany Spain Romania and the Netherlands have just placed an order. Germany is going to start production.
    If NATO or EU countries get together on a bulk purchase the price tumbles.
    What we don’t need is a huge procurement bill because we want to-tweak it or build our own different system. May be worth comparing to Iron Dome to see if there is a noticeable gain.
    BAE could even try to get a licence to build in UK

  • @bbbf09
    @bbbf09 5 месяцев назад

    his supposed 'recipe' for change just sounds like giving up - rather than some specific clever efficiency new defence plan

  • @Sigmafree1
    @Sigmafree1 5 месяцев назад

    More wars equals high inflation. Poor life quality. Higher taxes

  • @livingtribunal4110
    @livingtribunal4110 5 месяцев назад

    😂
    _"Britain Stands Together With the Ukraine"_
    The gift that keeps on giving...

  • @Sigmafree1
    @Sigmafree1 5 месяцев назад

    If the iron Dome stopped some of Iranian missiles, it doesn't mean it will stop advanced Russian missiles

  • @jaytate491
    @jaytate491 5 месяцев назад

    100% accurate. Now we need 2 democrat parties to go with the 2 GoP parties.

  • @briansmith9926
    @briansmith9926 5 месяцев назад

    MOD procurement is a joke. It needs root and branch change.

  • @Lukky_Luke
    @Lukky_Luke 5 месяцев назад

    What is the point with a missile defence. Just have missiles oneself that one can fire off against the enemy

  • @danielculpepper9258
    @danielculpepper9258 5 месяцев назад

    Keep giving money to Ukraine! It works! 😂😉😂

  • @mikejwheatley
    @mikejwheatley 5 месяцев назад

    The issue with MOD defence procurement is common in our public sector. Procurement is both over regulated and frequently a race to the bottom to deliver customised solutions at the cheapest price. It doesn’t work. Buy quality, proven off-the-shelf solutions for mainstream capability. Good enough is good enough. Then choose a point of military specialisation and that’s where we must spend the money for the cherry-on-top more bespoke or customised capabilities.

  • @LynRegan
    @LynRegan 5 месяцев назад

    Solution...Make peace with Putin.

  • @themcgeachys
    @themcgeachys 5 месяцев назад

    Ffs we don't even have bunkers

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit 5 месяцев назад

      forget that. Focus: the only prevention of serious war is capable systems, namely missile related systems and defense for all incoming aerial weapons. Not friggin complicated to FOCUS

    • @themcgeachys
      @themcgeachys 5 месяцев назад

      Where will you go for protection London and Glasgow have the underground dome sort of protection

  • @oslo6661
    @oslo6661 5 месяцев назад

    Why do we need a defence system for London? That's where the enemy live!

  • @tarlkoroban3733
    @tarlkoroban3733 5 месяцев назад

    Stop poking the bear. Safer and cheaper.

  • @TheBaconWizard
    @TheBaconWizard 5 месяцев назад +4

    TERRIBLE title, not mere clickbait but entirely fabricated. This is supposed to be a respectable news and current affairs channel.

    • @boota1979
      @boota1979 5 месяцев назад

      @TheBaconWizard It's nothing more than a propaganda channel. First air date: 29 June 2020 brought in just in time for a 'pandemic' and it's been spouting propaganda ever since.

    • @futonclutch5040
      @futonclutch5040 5 месяцев назад

      Exactly. I've just looked at several major news websites, but there is no evidence whatsoever that Ukraine is getting any US aid. The deadlock has not been broken, and so far, there is no congressional consensus to vote through the US$ 60 billion military aid package that Ukraine so desperately needs. This is just plain fabrication. I expect more from the Times.

  • @everTriumph
    @everTriumph 5 месяцев назад

    Give up the Falklands?

  • @stephenpickering5968
    @stephenpickering5968 5 месяцев назад

    The main problem with our defence expenditure is politicians using it for job creation. We spent £3.4 billion trying to develop our own maritime patrol aircraft before abandoning it and buying the American version that was available in the first place

    • @andyniblock43
      @andyniblock43 5 месяцев назад +1

      Don’t even mention Ajax armoured vehicle or the SA80, the most expensive individual weapon ever invented.

  • @seraphimipx2611
    @seraphimipx2611 5 месяцев назад

    ah... the problem with sending only one ship... yeah... good point. people know what is going on, everybody has internet. everybody can lookup how many ships a country has got. also how much money they spend on defense... :D i guess it is kind of pointless to send one ship. the "natives" there will not be afraid and look t it saying "woah... this ship... the uk really shows presence here, we better do what they tell us or they will invade/destroy us" :D hahaha... maybe this worked 150 years ago... either you build, have and send there massive amounts of ships and carriers with fighters... OR.. you you have one super amazing super hero ship that is technological so advanced it scares... like it could have active camo, not even swim in the water but hover over the water, and it should have violet lasers too... maybe a star trek-like shield!!! or... you just leave what you have home and spend the money better... :D sure
    no, that really is a good argument. but... not even sending one ship!! will result in total ignorance. the people there will absoultely do what they want. china would go on rampage instantly. it is more about the sign, the statement... sending one ship is better than sending no ship! and if 20 nations send 1 ship, the total already is a significant fleet. but i agree that there needs to be more money put into the local defenses as well. irondome-esque defenses make sense. do both!

  • @drewd2
    @drewd2 5 месяцев назад +1

    You guys have a missile defense system called Sky Sabre, and it's highly accurate. I can't believe the amount of information you are putting out about your own country. My only thought is you are trying to drum up support for more military spending. You say your money isn't being used effective? All you did was point to numbers. You guys go the route of less but more technologically advanced (also why you need less soldiers btw). Look at the tanks given to Ukraine. The Challenger 2 is by far the best over the Leopard 2 and M1A1 Abrams. This is one of the worst segments I've seen by Times Radio.

    • @Mybigfinger_69
      @Mybigfinger_69 5 месяцев назад

      We have plenty of missiles, manufactured by MBDA. We export many to Brazil, Italy etc etc. These guys are not well informed.

    • @suburbia2050
      @suburbia2050 5 месяцев назад

      Errr the UK doesn't have an anti ballistic missile system, hence the point in the interview about the RAF would have to scramble, there is no low flying cruise missile that could fly all the way from Russia to the UK, it would have to be a ballistic missile. No idea what you are going on about tanks for I mean surely that proves that superior tech is no good in tiny numbers?!

    • @suburbia2050
      @suburbia2050 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Mybigfinger_69the UK doesn't have an anti ballistic missile system.

    • @Mybigfinger_69
      @Mybigfinger_69 5 месяцев назад

      I said we have plenty of missiles, which we do. Anti ballistic, nope we don’t have them I agree. Not until 2032.

    • @suburbia2050
      @suburbia2050 5 месяцев назад

      @@Mybigfinger_69 but that was the whole point of the interview the idea of defending from the hypothetical "Russia firing missiles at London" scenario which would be ballistic by nature of the distance, sky sabre etc is built for protecting army units and naval ships out on the battlefield instead. They didn't say the UK had no anti missile or anti air capability.

  • @Helen-nl9lv
    @Helen-nl9lv 5 месяцев назад

    Inarticulate speaker

  • @MartinLundström-l4v
    @MartinLundström-l4v 5 месяцев назад

    The obvious option cant be mentioned, since it is not "politically" correct.

  • @martinlewer2910
    @martinlewer2910 5 месяцев назад

    Irans iron dome???? Maybe stick to copying Israels

  • @LynRegan
    @LynRegan 5 месяцев назад

    Waĺrus

  • @MasJoko-q7k
    @MasJoko-q7k 5 месяцев назад

    Inggeeh Rusia nato urusan kamo😗

  • @Igors_mind
    @Igors_mind 5 месяцев назад

    HRM ships have capable AA weapons, but them are few

  • @simonpannett8810
    @simonpannett8810 5 месяцев назад

    Europe needs an integrated missile defence system though cheap drones en masse could be hard to defend against??Laser system could be part of the answer if it works!! UK should not look outside Europe and the 2 aircraft carriers were a total waste of money!!

  • @Timehasfallenasleep
    @Timehasfallenasleep 5 месяцев назад

    David Murrin covered this ages ago in a report that allegedly reached Boris Johnson when he was in No.10. The answer is a first line of defence comprising naval destroyers with anti-missile weaponry stationed up and down the coast and a second line comprising iron dome type systems critical infrastructure points. Not London though. London doesn’t need an iron dome system - there’s nothing worth defending there. Better to defend Whitby in Yorkshire as it’s got the ‘early warning’ Fillingdales base and the lucrative Woodsmith mines close by.
    And this argument about accepting a smaller role in the world is nonsensical. Investing in a navy pays for itself by boosting trade and securing trade routes.

  • @LECJuwels
    @LECJuwels 5 месяцев назад

    iron dome can not go against 300 drones rockets russia sends 5000 like hamas did wil burst trought remeber 5000 hamas rocketa they said it was a lie more like 50 maby 300 from so far away hits 14 places 5000 from around corner hits nothing strange informations

  • @crystalbluepersuasion1027
    @crystalbluepersuasion1027 5 месяцев назад

    I think Johnson will bring three individual bills to the floor and then just not bring the Ukraine part to the floor at all. This whole thing is designed by Trump and Johnson to delay and prevent any aid to Ukraine at all.

    • @richardsanders.4624
      @richardsanders.4624 5 месяцев назад +1

      It doesn't work like that. The President via the house democrats is putting forward the bills and he says they'll be a 4 in 1 package.
      1. Ukraine aid package
      2. Israel aid package
      3. Taiwan aid package
      4. US military investment package.

    • @crystalbluepersuasion1027
      @crystalbluepersuasion1027 5 месяцев назад

      @@richardsanders.4624 That’s good. Next time I should probably watch the whole video before commenting, lol.

  • @djouher887
    @djouher887 5 месяцев назад

    Inviter poutine aux commémorations du débarquement est un impératif. Dès son arrivée en France, on le met dans l’avion pour La Haye, ou il sera accueilli par le tribunal international de justice avec tous les honneurs dûs à son rang.René.

  • @Zenon00007
    @Zenon00007 5 месяцев назад +1

    ❤Ukrainian ❤

  • @nrauhauser
    @nrauhauser 5 месяцев назад

    This bit about Iron Dome sounds kinda silly. You are the United Kingdom ... search your memories ... there used to be these large metal things, water tight, long and pointy, some had guns on top. What were they called? I wager you could put some missile defense gadgets on the top of those things, and then protect both home and abroad.

  • @AmRFuKYaH
    @AmRFuKYaH 5 месяцев назад

    "Iran's Iron Dome defence systems" Times Radio

  • @jasonwalters6329
    @jasonwalters6329 5 месяцев назад

    Iron dome is an excellent idea!!

  • @johnnywalker4490
    @johnnywalker4490 5 месяцев назад +1

    Support Ukraine , for Golly Sake , and , You SAVE YOURSELVES . ...

  • @TheLastSongbird124
    @TheLastSongbird124 5 месяцев назад +1

    Oh, more billions for the Military Industrial Complex of the USA to
    supply the 'dome'.....this stuff never ends!

    • @Mr_Rob_otto
      @Mr_Rob_otto 5 месяцев назад +5

      A “dome” is a defensive maneuver to avoid Russia bombing a killing civilians in Ukraine as opposed to being an offensive weapon. That’s a good thing that will save lives. That money will be spent in the US and employ Americans who will manufacture and assemble the system. It’s good public policy and a humanitarian effort.

    • @markmierzejewski9534
      @markmierzejewski9534 5 месяцев назад +2

      So you are against jobs in America?

    • @TheLastSongbird124
      @TheLastSongbird124 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@markmierzejewski9534 don't talk nonsense

    • @TheLastSongbird124
      @TheLastSongbird124 5 месяцев назад

      @@Mr_Rob_otto only an American would call escalating military conflicts all around the world a 'humanitarian effort', that's sick!

    • @tonyzaffirini7368
      @tonyzaffirini7368 5 месяцев назад +2

      For a native Farsi speaker your English is pretty good!

  • @Bton1233
    @Bton1233 5 месяцев назад +1

    I really think you, Brits should not comment on the speculative aspects of our politics. You do not understand them. This is a bill to send support to everyone but Ukraine. He will not bring that to a vote but with this bill he will get enough Republican split that there is no chance for a discharge petition on the good lend lease act bill. That we all really want.

  • @mrdarbab
    @mrdarbab 5 месяцев назад

    right on. never waste money on a lost cause right? keep sending till it hurts.

  • @raymondmaher1388
    @raymondmaher1388 5 месяцев назад

    If the tories think they can make money out of iron dome, then it will appear.

  • @AndreaBarticelli
    @AndreaBarticelli 5 месяцев назад

    Iron dome could not stop Iranian hypersonic missiles, Israel only shot down the subsonic missiles and a lot of slow drones. 1200 million dollars were spent in a few hours.

  • @pauldean8638
    @pauldean8638 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ukraine ain’t getting Jack poo

  • @stancromer3362
    @stancromer3362 5 месяцев назад

    The last commenter has it right, and sounds a bit like Trump. Although he didn't say it directly he did imply that it's time to put the UK first and avoid costly military actions abroad. MUKGA!

    • @nozhki-busha
      @nozhki-busha 5 месяцев назад

      Its a good job people like you dont get to make these choices for my country, otherwise Putin would be on our doorstep.

  • @lynetteray2146
    @lynetteray2146 5 месяцев назад

    There's a lot you can cut out of the budget. All that mental health BS won't be needed once people are actively employed and given a purpose.

  • @marisabenson1222
    @marisabenson1222 5 месяцев назад

    Come on tax the corporations and the wealthy. They have an interest in protecting their businesses. Stop squeezing every cent from the bottom two thirds.

  • @GibrilTuray-uq4mm
    @GibrilTuray-uq4mm 5 месяцев назад

    Not iron doom but iron loom 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lw1zfog
    @lw1zfog 5 месяцев назад

    🥴🤦🏽‍♂️🤡