OKAY EVERYONE - I hear you about the “real hip hop” thing. When I said this, I was referring to the old-head version of “real hip hop” that discredits people like Future or Playboi Carti. It’s silly. Hip hop in its purest form is obviously still around, and something that will never go away. Phrases/terminology become outdated all the time. Even Pepe the frog, a dumb meme from the 2000s became an icon for far-right extremists. This is all I meant, and for a while “real hip hop” was just an excuse for people to gatekeep other rappers
What defines an “old head version of real hip-hop”? Also, hip-hop does need to be gate-kept, other wise you end up with pop rappers, which is a derivative of hiphop, like Drake trying to claim themselves as “goats” of hip-hop. Smh.
You hsve a lot to say about something that has nothing to do with you. If you were part of the Black American culture you would know the evaluation. The fact that you are up here trying to dictate the narrative in our culture is crazy.
@@darkcloudproductions4866 I’m not trying to dictate anything - I’m an outsider to the culture and I accept and understand that. If I said something that’s wrong, I apologize. I was just trying to explain my thought process in this comment.
@@darkcloudproductions4866 i dont think you know whats hes trying to say he may have not understood properly. i understood but i think he could have worded it better
@deadpanduke19 It might seem like you're being attacked, and for that, I apologize . What you have to realize is, and hopefully give us a little bit of grace for is that this is one of the few things as a culture that we have ever had in this country to call our own. Something that we planted the seed ,watered, cultivated, and the grounds were fettile for a while. Now it is arguably the biggest form of entertainment on the planet. This is one of the few ways that we were able to create generational wealth in our community. We hold it very precious and dear to our hearts. We Are The Gatekeepers. We're the agents in the matrix, we're the foremost authority, and all are welcome. Overall, it was a well thought out essay, though. but get you some friends that are deep in the culture going forward to run your videos by first. lol.
From a mainstream perspective YES INDEED. But HIPHOP was never that. HIPHOP never was dead. Rap somewhat took wild turns and fell into odd pockets but there is a plethora of dope "rap music" that is everywhere if you dig.
kendrick is special man especially with what he did mmatbs nobody has ever made anything like it and people act like its just mid. mmatbs is the most beautiful introspective artwiorks ive ever seen in my life no question. love your video keep it up
It shows there is a level of maturity certain people haven't reached and that's why everything goes over their heads. It's not meant to entertain the listener It's an album that requires you to pay close attention to the message but today a lot of people have a very short attention span. It took me time to give this album the appreciation it deserves. Every listen hits harder than the former.
12:10 Tupac was always aware of this. There is a line that he has repeated several times throughout some of his earlier albums, where he says, "1 nxxxa teach two nxxxas, 3 teach 4 nxxxas, and them nxxxas teach more nxxxas, and when we blast, it'll be the biggest blast you heard!" Tupac wanted the exact same thing Kendrick wants: for us to unite and start a revolution against the powers that be.
Anytime someone claims Kendrick tries hard to be worshipped by his fans I’m just like “say you didn’t listen to mr.morale without saying you didn’t🤦🏾♂️😭”. Savior is one of my favorite songs off the album and perfectly describes how he too is as regular and human as everyone else.
He’s not our savior, and that’s a tough pill for many to swallow. Especially after this whole battle, people are still demanding he fit that roll. I don’t know what it will take for people to simply accept him as a mortal man who’s not a mouthpiece for whatever cultural, political or historical points we (as an audience and hip hop as a culture) are trying to make. I love his music. He’s one of the only artists whose music I check for and I’m glad he won this battle, but if there’s anything I’ve learned throughout this whole thing is nobody really listens to him lol. They hear him but they don’t listen to him or the people close to him. The internet has been so busy picking apart every little thing he says and does mining for historical gems and cultural references. We think there’s deep meaning baked into the clothes he wears, the way he knocked on the door, the way he skipped playing hopscotch, the way he ate the fries, why was he sitting on the table? Who are those people in the picture in the background? What outfit of Tupac’s is he wearing today? Why did he say “pizza” like that? Why did he “WOP” like that? It’s way too much and I think it actually does more to disrespect him and his work than it does to show love and adoration.
I think both can be true. He is not this perfect pariah to fit our fantasies, and I think we out a lot of meaning into everything he does, even when he himself admits he doesn't intend to put these deeper meanings in. But I also think he actively works to layer meanings into his work on some level for sure. He IS still a Pulitzer Prize winner, so I do think he thought about a few things to fit his artistic vision, but I also think because of that, we attribute WAAAY too much to him for every small coincidence.
@@35daysstraight Man, he can't start a "once in a generation movement", bring gangs together, AND destroy an industry plant, while telling us "I am not your Savior." He shouldn't have kept acting like a Savior. It's on him now!
I personally disagree saying "Real Hip-Hop" as a term is outdated, there's just more subgenres now but there's still music being made considered real hip-hop aside from da other stuff we get now. Despite my nitpicking this was a great vid bro!
Hip Hop is a culture. The culture is break dancing, pop locking, graffiti art and rappers. In the beginning the DJ and dancers were just as prominent as the rapper. I grew up in NY. I remember my younger brother and his friends break dancing all day long in our backyard. This was in 1979. And, if you went to the city the trains were covered in graffiti. Graffiti was everywhere. My younger brother was a graffiti artist too. Hip Hop is a black art form. I thought it was a fad, because at the time I was listening to Monk, Miles and Coltrane. I watched Hip Hop grow from its infancy. And, now, I love Hip Hop.
The meaning and depth of the lyricism behind the track is so complex and important, but I feel like it's production is the most slept on in hi while discography. It sounds disturbing and haunting, yet beautiful and elegant at the same time.
Bruh remember the first time I heard this song. Just getting back from deployment…just this odd empty feeling like regular everyday life doesn’t make sense anymore..IYKYK… just sitting and thinking in my car in a gym parking lot listening to this album because I was staying on a friends couch who was a party guy so that was always loud and annoying…man when this song hit? Idk. Something about the energy, that beat, that last verse “Tupac dead gotta think for yourself “ man idk it just woke something up in me and got me out of my dark cloud. Power of Real music.
More celebs need to say this. It's one thing to support an artist you agree with but way too many people outright worship celebrities to the point where they become mindless slaves to their every word. I appreciate that Kendrick doesn't have any desire to take advantage of that and instead tries to prevent people from having that mindset. "Think for yourself" should be a given but far too many people refuse to do so and are always looking for someone else to tell them how to feel and what to think.
i think this song is so important because i have seen multiple drake stans unironically saying "but kendrick claims to be yalls savior!" ... like it just proves how dead media literacy is.
Really appreciate your reporting bro. Ur giving ppl insensitive to follow the culture and feeding the interest of music lovers everywhere. Great video essays!!
And people that love real hip hop we're following KDOT way before good kid mad city. This is exactly what I mean. He was never a quote unquote conscious rapper. Visitors to the culture think because you're not talking about gang shit, selling drugs, or shooting people, anything outside of that is conscious as if those are our only two options as a race of people where definitely not more complex than that. You cannot be more off about the themes of all of those albums. Stop it. Go back listen to some hip hop and fall in love with it, or pick a different topic for your channel.
People clown on this album for not having conventional bangers, but Jesus Christ, this shit SLAPS. And that's not even taking into consideration the power and message of these lyrics.
Yea when section80 came out Kendrick was looked at as the next thing I understand you was 10-11 so you wouldn’t know but trust me Kendrick was looked at as the next up
lol funny when you think about it.. he wants you to not think he’s a “saviour”… yet actively tries with all his might to Save hip Hop.😂 Lisan algaib much?
The term real hip hop is not, and will never be outdated. This is why when you're a visitor to the culture you should not say certain things with your whole chest, check in with a couple of your black friends first, because you are not a member remember? You are a visitor.
how can you say “im not a hip hop purist” and then try to make the statement that “real hip hop is outdated” lol stuff like this is why purists gatekeep cause casuals say stuff as if they’re fully educated on the subject. 🙄
We didn't even say he is our Saviour... Where did this come from?? He doesn't even accept the acknowledgement of him being a Saviour. You're just making things up.
I don’t think it’s a matter of HIM ever stating he is anyone’s savior as it’s a matter of people putting him on a pedestal as a savior. He wouldn’t have wrote the song if it wasn’t a phenomenon he was regularly encountering. I mean, have you seen all the discourse in throughout this battle? People are declaring him the “savior” of hip hop. That’s a wild and bold statement!
Not in that scale in recent memory. He's the only US president I've seen who not only built a cult following around his name but actively tried to use that cult following to deny the results of democracy to stay in power. He's easily the closest the US has come to fascism since the US gained its independence from the British empire.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: Extreme left rhetoric. 👆👆👆 Donald Trump, a facist¿ You sound like the collective of cogs in the left winged propaganda machine. No man is perfect. Question everything. Good video btw...@Zack-vi7is
@Zack-vi7is Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: Extreme left rhetoric. 👆👆👆 Donald Trump, a facist¿ You sound like the collective of cogs in the left winged propaganda machine. No man is perfect. Question everything. Good video btw...
OKAY EVERYONE - I hear you about the “real hip hop” thing. When I said this, I was referring to the old-head version of “real hip hop” that discredits people like Future or Playboi Carti. It’s silly. Hip hop in its purest form is obviously still around, and something that will never go away. Phrases/terminology become outdated all the time. Even Pepe the frog, a dumb meme from the 2000s became an icon for far-right extremists. This is all I meant, and for a while “real hip hop” was just an excuse for people to gatekeep other rappers
What defines an “old head version of real hip-hop”? Also, hip-hop does need to be gate-kept, other wise you end up with pop rappers, which is a derivative of hiphop, like Drake trying to claim themselves as “goats” of hip-hop. Smh.
You hsve a lot to say about something that has nothing to do with you. If you were part of the Black American culture you would know the evaluation. The fact that you are up here trying to dictate the narrative in our culture is crazy.
@@darkcloudproductions4866 I’m not trying to dictate anything - I’m an outsider to the culture and I accept and understand that. If I said something that’s wrong, I apologize. I was just trying to explain my thought process in this comment.
@@darkcloudproductions4866 i dont think you know whats hes trying to say he may have not understood properly. i understood but i think he could have worded it better
@deadpanduke19 It might seem like you're being attacked, and for that, I apologize . What you have to realize is, and hopefully give us a little bit of grace for is that this is one of the few things as a culture that we have ever had in this country to call our own. Something that we planted the seed ,watered, cultivated, and the grounds were fettile for a while. Now it is arguably the biggest form of entertainment on the planet. This is one of the few ways that we were able to create generational wealth in our community. We hold it very precious and dear to our hearts. We Are The Gatekeepers. We're the agents in the matrix, we're the foremost authority, and all are welcome. Overall, it was a well thought out essay, though. but get you some friends that are deep in the culture going forward to run your videos by first. lol.
Future said get a money counter is one of the unintentional funny lyrics ever
fr tho 😭😭💯💯
It was for sure intentional tho
He's a champion not your savior
@@ebnest123 facts
Good way to put it.
Shoutout @professorskye
Kendrick is not our savior but he definitely saved hip hop.
Since 2011. That Control verse is proof
From a mainstream perspective YES INDEED. But HIPHOP was never that. HIPHOP never was dead. Rap somewhat took wild turns and fell into odd pockets but there is a plethora of dope "rap music" that is everywhere if you dig.
That would make him a savior
He sure did
@@vigadotibrand1677that makes him a champion
kendrick is special man especially with what he did mmatbs nobody has ever made anything like it and people act like its just mid. mmatbs is the most beautiful introspective artwiorks ive ever seen in my life no question. love your video keep it up
100% agree daily listen for me. Never understood the hate it gets.
I love Mr Morale
It shows there is a level of maturity certain people haven't reached and that's why everything goes over their heads. It's not meant to entertain the listener It's an album that requires you to pay close attention to the message but today a lot of people have a very short attention span.
It took me time to give this album the appreciation it deserves. Every listen hits harder than the former.
especially if you sit and listen to it front to back with no interruptions💯💯💯 that album is really special
@@SHaRK-wj3ne For real
12:10 Tupac was always aware of this. There is a line that he has repeated several times throughout some of his earlier albums, where he says, "1 nxxxa teach two nxxxas, 3 teach 4 nxxxas, and them nxxxas teach more nxxxas, and when we blast, it'll be the biggest blast you heard!"
Tupac wanted the exact same thing Kendrick wants: for us to unite and start a revolution against the powers that be.
Anytime someone claims Kendrick tries hard to be worshipped by his fans I’m just like “say you didn’t listen to mr.morale without saying you didn’t🤦🏾♂️😭”. Savior is one of my favorite songs off the album and perfectly describes how he too is as regular and human as everyone else.
He’s not our savior, and that’s a tough pill for many to swallow. Especially after this whole battle, people are still demanding he fit that roll. I don’t know what it will take for people to simply accept him as a mortal man who’s not a mouthpiece for whatever cultural, political or historical points we (as an audience and hip hop as a culture) are trying to make.
I love his music. He’s one of the only artists whose music I check for and I’m glad he won this battle, but if there’s anything I’ve learned throughout this whole thing is nobody really listens to him lol. They hear him but they don’t listen to him or the people close to him.
The internet has been so busy picking apart every little thing he says and does mining for historical gems and cultural references. We think there’s deep meaning baked into the clothes he wears, the way he knocked on the door, the way he skipped playing hopscotch, the way he ate the fries, why was he sitting on the table? Who are those people in the picture in the background? What outfit of Tupac’s is he wearing today? Why did he say “pizza” like that? Why did he “WOP” like that?
It’s way too much and I think it actually does more to disrespect him and his work than it does to show love and adoration.
I think both can be true. He is not this perfect pariah to fit our fantasies, and I think we out a lot of meaning into everything he does, even when he himself admits he doesn't intend to put these deeper meanings in. But I also think he actively works to layer meanings into his work on some level for sure. He IS still a Pulitzer Prize winner, so I do think he thought about a few things to fit his artistic vision, but I also think because of that, we attribute WAAAY too much to him for every small coincidence.
Kendrick can keep dogdging this cultural activist label, but the culture has decided! He's him!
Ayoo😂 let the man live
Facts😂
@@35daysstraight Man, he can't start a "once in a generation movement", bring gangs together, AND destroy an industry plant, while telling us "I am not your Savior." He shouldn't have kept acting like a Savior. It's on him now!
@@geminiaxelrod4592 bro be quiet, he don't owe the world anything
@@geminiaxelrod4592Kendrick never came out and said he was the savior at all
I personally disagree saying "Real Hip-Hop" as a term is outdated, there's just more subgenres now but there's still music being made considered real hip-hop aside from da other stuff we get now. Despite my nitpicking this was a great vid bro!
Hip Hop is a culture. The culture is break dancing, pop locking, graffiti art and rappers. In the beginning the DJ and dancers were just as prominent as the rapper. I grew up in NY. I remember my younger brother and his friends break dancing all day long in our backyard. This was in 1979. And, if you went to the city the trains were covered in graffiti. Graffiti was everywhere. My younger brother was a graffiti artist too. Hip Hop is a black art form. I thought it was a fad, because at the time I was listening to Monk, Miles and Coltrane. I watched Hip Hop grow from its infancy. And, now, I love Hip Hop.
The meaning and depth of the lyricism behind the track is so complex and important, but I feel like it's production is the most slept on in hi while discography. It sounds disturbing and haunting, yet beautiful and elegant at the same time.
Bruh remember the first time I heard this song. Just getting back from deployment…just this odd empty feeling like regular everyday life doesn’t make sense anymore..IYKYK… just sitting and thinking in my car in a gym parking lot listening to this album because I was staying on a friends couch who was a party guy so that was always loud and annoying…man when this song hit? Idk. Something about the energy, that beat, that last verse “Tupac dead gotta think for yourself “ man idk it just woke something up in me and got me out of my dark cloud. Power of Real music.
super introspective video, thank you for taking the time to make this 💙
More celebs need to say this. It's one thing to support an artist you agree with but way too many people outright worship celebrities to the point where they become mindless slaves to their every word. I appreciate that Kendrick doesn't have any desire to take advantage of that and instead tries to prevent people from having that mindset. "Think for yourself" should be a given but far too many people refuse to do so and are always looking for someone else to tell them how to feel and what to think.
i think this song is so important because i have seen multiple drake stans unironically saying "but kendrick claims to be yalls savior!" ... like it just proves how dead media literacy is.
one of the best Kung-Fu Kenny songs ever.
Really appreciate your reporting bro. Ur giving ppl insensitive to follow the culture and feeding the interest of music lovers everywhere. Great video essays!!
The only "biggest" things about this battle were the rappers involved and the absolutely brutal beatdown that took place. It wasn't even close
Kendrick uniting the West Coast while destroying a Canadian colonizer has gotta be the most Naruto shit I’ve ever seen😂😂😂
Aye 1st Off i know your not a Hip-Hop Purist but there’s a Big Difference Between Hip Hop & Rap
The concept album in the mainstream thing started with Lupe Fiasco’s The Cool. 2007
Y’all never heard the untitled album and it shows 🥱
And people that love real hip hop we're following KDOT way before good kid mad city. This is exactly what I mean. He was never a quote unquote conscious rapper. Visitors to the culture think because you're not talking about gang shit, selling drugs, or shooting people, anything outside of that is conscious as if those are our only two options as a race of people where definitely not more complex than that. You cannot be more off about the themes of all of those albums. Stop it. Go back listen to some hip hop and fall in love with it, or pick a different topic for your channel.
People clown on this album for not having conventional bangers, but Jesus Christ, this shit SLAPS. And that's not even taking into consideration the power and message of these lyrics.
You need to do a video covering Kendrick’s ‘the prayer’
loved the vid fr, but pls just also quote the actual lyrics 😢😅
Yea when section80 came out Kendrick was looked at as the next thing I understand you was 10-11 so you wouldn’t know but trust me Kendrick was looked at as the next up
An Important song to reference in this video was Crown. It's lyrics give context to Saviour. Just saying lol
lol funny when you think about it.. he wants you to not think he’s a “saviour”… yet actively tries with all his might to Save hip Hop.😂 Lisan algaib much?
A hip hop artist and the man outside of it are not the same thing. Stop playing stupid
He's so humble, that's how you know he's the savior......as written 🙏🏾🙌🏾
The term real hip hop is not, and will never be outdated. This is why when you're a visitor to the culture you should not say certain things with your whole chest, check in with a couple of your black friends first, because you are not a member remember? You are a visitor.
Putting Charli in the same conversation as OK Computer is so incredibly based. Do a Brat video next!
plz do the full album
0:55 Tupac and Nipsey
I wonder if real MCs believe in real hip hop.
Great video!
how can you say “im not a hip hop purist” and then try to make the statement that “real hip hop is outdated” lol stuff like this is why purists gatekeep cause casuals say stuff as if they’re fully educated on the subject. 🙄
Can one act white or act black? @7:20
Yes
Yeah
Yes. Bc the two have developed separate cultures. Due to being separated/segregated. I fear this is pretty obvious.
So that comment u made about the " blind era" is totally false btw lol I know u said it not a purist but it's just factually wrong
We didn't even say he is our Saviour... Where did this come from?? He doesn't even accept the acknowledgement of him being a Saviour. You're just making things up.
True, since you and your friends never specifically said he’s your savior, it must mean nobody thinks that
I don’t think it’s a matter of HIM ever stating he is anyone’s savior as it’s a matter of people putting him on a pedestal as a savior. He wouldn’t have wrote the song if it wasn’t a phenomenon he was regularly encountering. I mean, have you seen all the discourse in throughout this battle? People are declaring him the “savior” of hip hop. That’s a wild and bold statement!
9:26 The way you describe Trump when there's so many worse examples... 🤷♂️
Not in that scale in recent memory. He's the only US president I've seen who not only built a cult following around his name but actively tried to use that cult following to deny the results of democracy to stay in power. He's easily the closest the US has come to fascism since the US gained its independence from the British empire.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: Extreme left rhetoric. 👆👆👆
Donald Trump, a facist¿
You sound like the collective of cogs in the left winged propaganda machine. No man is perfect. Question everything.
Good video btw...@Zack-vi7is
@Zack-vi7is
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: Extreme left rhetoric. 👆👆👆
Donald Trump, a facist¿
You sound like the collective of cogs in the left winged propaganda machine. No man is perfect. Question everything.
Good video btw...