The "plug-in power" for electret microphones (most of the lavalier mics) is officially called "bias voltage". These Røde devices seem to be the only high quality adapters that can provide XLR adapter with bias voltage without introducing lots of noise. All the cheaper models available cause lots of noise as far as I know. Thank you for *clearly* explaining the difference between VXLR+ and VXLR Pro. In short, you want VXLR Pro only if you need a long XLR cable between the adapter and the audio interface. I'm planning to use electret microphone connected to nearby audio interface so VXLR+ is the best option for me because I can plug the adapter directly to the interface. For dynamic mics you can usually connect the 6.3 mm connector directly to the audio interface, too.
Hi @ChrisSpiegl Thank you so much for the detailed video! Based on your explanation, I confirmed that my workflow will be correct - Focusrite Clarett 2pre - > 48v Phantom Power - > Rode VXLR Pro - > Rode SC1 6 meters long cord- > RODE Lavalier II I think that for this home setup should be enough Rode VXLR+ however, I want to be sure that signal is best as good as possible :) Thank you Tomas
I have a Videomic Pro+ and a Wireless GO II to be connected to a Zoom H5 using very short cables. Which one do I need? I guess the VXLR should be enough. Am I wrong?
Would the XLR Pro be the right application to take 3.55 mm TRS output of a wireless microphone system (i.e., Hollyland Lark M1, Djii Mic, etc.) and brining it into a XLR input of a wireless mixer? Or it should only be used as an input microphone to such a system.
Great video. Maybe you mentioned and I missed it, but what about using an XLR mic and then converting to 3.5 to go into your camera directly. Does the Pro model work for that?
No, XLR has male and female, and you'd end up with exactly the wrong one when using it with a mic. There are different adapters for this. However, in the realm of connecting XLR mics directly to a camera with 3.5 mm, you have to make sure that you don't use a mic which needs Phantom Power - since your camera probably can't provide that. Generally, I'd advise not to do it this way and use mics that are made to connect to a camera or use an audio interface / recorder in between mic and camera.
I came here to learn about VXLR Pro but more than half the video is gone, you are still talking about the basic VXLR. I hope you take a note on this for your next video.
Hello DamSak Handa, there are time markers, those probably help in finding the information you are looking for. This is a comparison video for the Røde VXLR series, so it makes sense to talk about all three of them. Anyways, thanks for your feedback and have a great day 🌸.
@@ChrisSpiegl Okay, That is fine if you don't get what I am talking about. Still, what I am saying is video is titled on Pro version, but more than half is on basic version. why not shorting the time for basic and give us more on what we came for?
Another benefit of the VXLR Pro is broader compatibility compared to the VXLR Plus. This is because its transformer-balanced outputs can be used with transformer-balanced inputs, which will not accept a signal from an unbalanced output.
Hi TreyDaze, that's not how the VXLR adapters work. The 1Dx Mark II expects a male 3.5mm jack signal and the NTG5 provides you with a male XLR port. However, as far as I understand the NTG5 can also be powered by battery and then you could find other adapters which may be able to give you this functionality.
Thanks for the video. One ( dumb) Question with answer ( from RODE)..Is One pin of VXLR PLUS longer than the other two? Why is one pin of the XLR connector longer than the other two? is this normal? Yes, this is perfectly normal and is a design feature of the RØDE microphone. The ground XLR pin (pin 1) is designed to be slightly longer than the other two pins. This is to ensure that when an XLR is plugged into the mic XLR socket the first pin that comes into contact is the ground pin. This feature is implemented in all RØDE microphones to protect the microphone circuitry from a static electricity short that could potentially damage the microphone circuitry.
That's absolutely right. I wondered the same for a while. But read this info on their Instagram at some point. So good, they make it safe(r) for us to use.
First for clarification: - do you mean the Ride VideoMic NTG? - and you want to connect that mic to a camera with a XLR input? Please let me know. But if those assumptions are correct, the Rode VXLR+ would be good. That would give you the option to activate phantom power and with that the mic would turn in by itself when you turn the camera on.
Thanks for the thorough video. I was disappointed to find out that my VXLR+ does NOT convert the signal to balanced. Oh well, need to buy even more stuff... By the way: i would not consider 9m cable run as long. General advice is that unbalanced runs can be used up to 10m, and balanced can go easily to 300m.
Hi Semi Lumi, I had a similar reaction back when I got the VXLR+; but at last, Røde now makes a balanced version. In terms of length of the XLR cable… I totally understand that, the only problem is I don't have that long an XLR cable 🙈. Otherwise, I would have tested it for sure. This video was intended more as an explanation of the differences. Thank you for your comment 🌸.
@Semi Lumi That’s a slightly misleading statement about cable length; it needs clarification with regard to the type of signal you’re sending. Balancing doesn’t inherently mean you can use a long cable, as there is always signal loss the longer a cable is, so for example you’d be most unwise to send a mic level signal 300m even if it’s balanced. A line level signal might be fine. The point of balancing is its resistance to interference hence you can use longer cables without fear of picking up electrical interference but you still need to ensure the signal itself is suitable for the distance you’re sending it.
I was getting ready to purchase either the $10 or $25 adapter and I’m really glad I found your video to help me. I thought this was a really great video and a very clear comparison of the adapters. For me, I’m using a different scenario. I have a Movo VXR10 mic and I would like to connect it to a Behringer studio mixer. My purpose for this is because I run the mic along with a guitar and another audio source into the mixer then I have a sub out from mixer that goes straight to my iPhone or iPad while I’m recording video. The mixer will provide phantom power but I’m still not sure if the $25 adapter will accomplish this and I will be using it as a boom mic so would need a 10’ or so cable. Can you tell me if the $25 adapter will work for this?
The options are VXLR / VXLR Plus / VXLR Pro. For what you are describing the VXLR Plus and VXLR Pro would work since the mic needs plugin power you need an adapter that takes Phantom Power and transforms it into plugin power which both of these do. The Pro has some more electronics to minimize electric static and interferences which can be picked up by the cable. But to make use of that the VXLR Pro has to be as close to the mic as possible (so a long XLR cable, then the adapter, then the mic). If you are tight on cash, I'd go with the VXLR Plus and hope my setup does not provide too much interferences.
i want to get the vxlr pro to set up a lav with the zoom f3.... do those tentacle lavs have a high noise floor or do lavs just sound noisier connected to these adapters...
In that case I would recommend using the Pro or Plus. Singly because otherwise you loose the auto power on / off feature and you’d also need a specific TRS to TRS cable since if you use the VXLR standard with the TRRS you may run into sound artifacts as I have found in other tests with the VideoMic NTG.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank u fr ur suggestions 😊, so can i use a normal trs to trs cable provided by rode, with mics like video mic go( the red short cable) with a VXLR plus or pro, or can i get the work done by vxlr only with i use a specific cable like u mentioned ..( trs to trs) ? Getting bit confused here, The vxlr pro is really expensive and so i am considering the alternatives 🤔. ( akso I don’t want the auto on/off feature, will do it manually) My focusrite 2i2 audio interface had the option to turn the phantom power on and off. . I hv the trs - trs cable by rode which o got with my rode wireless go 2 , and also another one with the rode video mic go. By specific cables, did u meant with a cable like this ?
@@RivuSouravBanerjeeVideoEditor Yes, when using the TRS to TRS cable with the mics like VideoMic NTG and Wireless Go then you should be good with the Røde VXLR adapter 👍. Just try to keep the cables short or at least make a test recording and listen for any possible in interferences.
@@ChrisSpiegl thanks Chris fr the suggestions, i will keep it short. at a max i may use the RODE VC-1 3 meters cabel with it. i am a professional online video editor in India, and i even edit videos for other youtube channel around the world.. started my youtube journey too 1.5 years ago. previously i hv worked in a recording studio in a film production house and learnt how important these small detals matter. i hv connected wt u on instagram too @rivu_sourav. will be discussing about few more things with you..... the quality of information you r providing in your videos is awesome. Stay safe.. we r still in covid lockdown here in india, i hope things r different there
@@RivuSouravBanerjeeVideoEditor That's awesome to see. You got a great channel. In terms of cable: i'd try to stay even shorter (under 1 meter if possible). But just listen into it and see if you pick up any unwanted noise. Looking forward to connecting with you on the other mediums.
Thanks for an excellent and thorough explanation. Can i connect a microphone 3.5mm jack to rode vxlr pro adapter, hook the adapter with a xlr female side of the cable and hook the audio recorder with this cable? Does this effect any sound quality? And does this transfer the plug in power?
Wow. Pretty lengthy video/explanation however the last two and a half minutes were all that was really needed. That said, Thanks for the time and effort that went into the production.
Thank you. So. If i understand correctly. I can use the Rode VXLR+ to connect my 3,5 mm jack mic on my gaming headset to my audio interface (Audient Id4). And it should work. Right?
I bought the pro model, it made a lot of noise (like rain). It didn't work on the M-Audio Fast track pro. And It did not work on the SSL+ 2 either. Seems to probably have been a dud?
was wondering if this set up will work. 2 rode transmitter 1 rode receiver with rode sc 11 cable sple splitter connected to 2 vxlr+ to a zoom f3 the ouput to the camera? will the ouput be a 2 channel or 1?
To connect Wireless GO II to a mixer, can I use VXLR+? ( I know VXLR+ is used while using microphones which need phantom power) But I am asking this since I already have VXLR+ and do I need ot again buy VXLR to use with Wireless GO II.
20:37 ok but TRS can be balanced if you send a mono signal over it if you treat it as an xlr? this is how lavs are balanced and hopefully the Pro keeps it that way though the transformer ? This is why all lavs seem to have a stereo TRS connection instead of just a mono TS connection but produce a mono signal in the end, no ?
Very informative video. Thank you for putting this together. So for my Rode Video Mic NTG...the VXLR Pro is the way to go (provides cleanest signal path) when connecting it to my Zoom H6 and Focusrite Clarett 4 Pre? If so, would that be with or without the 48v button on the interface engaged?
Thank you. Generally, I would say the VXLR Pro would be my fav choice. However, the signal may actually be a bit cleaner with the VXLR base model IF the cables are really short (since the base model does not have any electronics and thus introduces less noise). In terms of Phantom Power: you do not need Phantom Power for the Video Mic NTG… but, it makes your life easier if you engage the 48v since then the mic actually will turn on by itself when the audio recorder is turned on.
Hi Chris great video I have just ordered the VXLR Pro to go with my videomic NTG and the odd use with my lab mic. For the nth tests what gain do you set on the mic? I normally have it set to 10 for overhead use. But as I will be adding gain from my preamp is it better to run the ntg at a lower gain setting than I normally use???
In my experience it is best to run the VideoMic NTG (and most other mics) at the highest gain setting possible so that you get as loud a signal as you can out of it to begin with (unless the mic capsule is clipping, then it would be better to use the -20db feature since the gain knob actually does not really fix that anyways).
Finally Somebody who gets plug in power correct it's amazing and not 48V phantom. Excellent! I think Rode does a poor job of explaining the difference between their adapters then again pretty much everybody does. I spent almost 5 years looking for a 48v to plug in power converter it was really difficult as I kept getting the passive adapters in my searches. The 3.5 mm TRRS cables have really complicated things. Traditionally that connector was used for left right and ground and some other variations. prior to that it was just a tip and sleeve left and ground with right on a separate Second connector since we started with mono and added stereo later. There are many other variations like with video cameras and audio / video or stereo audio / video and there's the iPod audio and video which morphed into the iPhone headset standard with the microphone. Which of course completed with The Other TRRS Standard which we should've ended up with because it would have solved so many other issues swapping microphone and ground on the 4 pole connector. Speaking of which if you ever plug in a 4P connection into a headphone jack and have low signal but get better signal with it slightly out it's because the Jack is not aware of the 4 pole connection and it's treating the very bottom one as ground which it is not it it's the microphone and this can be very annoying. And most people don't understand why.
A lot to take in. I was trying to figure out which one would work with my video mic Audio Technica AT8024. Can you give me a hint? because I couldn't find if this thing is balanced or not.
The Røde VXLR Pro (crsp.li/RodeVxlrPro) which is the newest of the three (and most expensive) is balanced and can be used on long distances. Important to note is that the cable between the mic and the adapter should be as short as possible and then the XLR cable is the one that can be longer.
This was intriguing to me so I tested it. Long story short: The right channel appears to be dropped and only the left channel goes through the adapter - but only on the Pro. So… VXLR Pro: · Left TRS => XLR · Right TRS => Ignored VXLR+: · Left TRS => XLR · Right TRS => Ignored VXLR: · Left & Right are Mixed into the Mono-XLR Signal So if you want a mix on the VXLR+ and Pro you could use a Stereo to Mono TRS adapter when going into the TRS end of the VXLR adapter.
Thanks for the video. But what do I use to connect a stereo lav mic that needs plugin-power (Sony Stereo-Lavalier-Mikrofon ECM-LV1). Of course i would need to split the Stereo-TRS into two Mono TS-jacks and use two XLR-Adapters. But do both need to transform Phantom-Power to plugin-power or just one and if yes, which?
I have never tried this, but I'd assume that both would need Phantom to Plug In Power adapters. So, I'd say go with the VXLR Plus or Pro version twice and then have the splitter.
@@ChrisSpiegl Hi Chris, thanks for your answer. I tried it out and you are right. A stereo lav ist just like two lavs, you'll need two VXLR+ or Pros. By the way: the VXLR+ only uses the left channel (or the tip of a 3,5 jack) as input und only sends Plug-in-Power over the tip. The VXLR uses tip and ring or left and right channel as input, it makes a mono-mixdown. I didn't tested the VXLR Pro. Thanks, chris
I have the Rode lavalier omnidirectional lapel mic, with trs output. I am not sure if Rode lavelier mic need phantom power. I would like to connect to my Mackie Profx10 mixer with phantom power button. Will VXLR do the job well?
I have headphones with a microphone jack, I tried to connect it to my external audio interface with an adapter to the bigger aux cable, but the microphone doesn't work. Could one of this adapters help me solve it?
Could be that the mic needs plugin power so if that is the case you may be able to use the VXLR Plus or Pro to make it work (as long as your audio interface can provide phantom power). However, it may be better to just get a mic for the price of those adapters and be set.
Thanks for this great information ! Could a Rode NTG4+ be connected to a Rode Go2 with a female XLR adapter to TRS connector? The adapters shown here seemed to have only male XLR connection.
Really clear and detailed description of three converters. I use vxlr (not plus or pro) with lav mic that doen not need plug in power. with Sound Devices Mix Pre ii in one of the mic channels. But one thing one must remember is to turn off the phantom power in the channel one is using. If you forget that you are likely to blow your lav mic and making it useless.
If I plug a single plug stereo 3.5mm (Clippy EM272Z1 Stereo Microphone) into the Rode VXLR+ mounted on a Zoom F3. Will the Zoom be able to recognize that as a two channel stereo file or will it become a mono signal? Thanks.
First..great info. Question if anyone can answer. Just bought the RodeCaster Pro (which has 48-v phantom power). Wanted to plug my RODE NTG MIC into it so am going to need one of these adapters. However, I want the MIC to automatically power up when I power on the RodeCaster Pro. So, I’m not sure if I need the power converter versions. Just double checking I’ll be okay with the basic Rode VXLR ( which doesn’t convert power). Don’t want to damage the MIC. Anyone know if I’ll be okay with that setup?
To be able to use the auto power on/off feature of the Røde mics, you will have to go with either the Pro or the Plus. Then activate phantom power on the channel and the mic will turn on by itself.
It might have been helpful for greenhorns like myself to point out that the signal balancing provided by the VXLR Pro is only relevant for the length of the XLR cable between the adapter and the mixer. It has no impact on the mic cable itself (between the mic and the adapter). I.e. if I plug in my lavalier mic directly to a zoom recorder input there is no use in using a VXLR Pro, correct?
I thought I mentioned this at some point in the video. You are correct: it's best to make sure the cable between the VXLR Pro and the Mic is as short as possible. The Signal Balancing is only between the VXLR Pro and the audio recorder. If you plug in the lavalier into the VXLR and then directly into the audio recorder you would not "need" this feature of balancing. However, I would probably still go for the VXLR Pro since a lavalier would need Plug-In Power and so you already are going to buy the VXLR Plus and then having the Pro would just make it so it's more versatile in future setups.
If I wanted to take a sound source from say a DJ's soundboard/loudspeaker (XLR out) to my rode wireless go - am I ok using the basic VXLR? Or do I need the VXLR+ to stop it from frying my wireless go?
@@ChrisSpiegl it could very well be a RCA/6.5mm output etc... but assuming it had a XLR out for me to take the feed would the basic VXLR adapter + 3.5mm cable to the wireless go be adequate? Or would I would I need the VXLR+ (with the voltage attenuator feature) to stop it from frying my wireless go?
If i want to use my rode wireless go with my zoom h8, What adapter should i buy? Is the rode wireless go need phantom power/Plug in power when using it with my zoom h8?
My SmartLav+ mic seems to work with my Zoom F3 via the Rode VXLR basic adapter, with phantom power either set for 24v or 48v - shouldn't it need one of the more advanced adapters for plug-in power?
Brilliant Comparison video 😀. I have a large house and have a "balanced" microphone PA system in my house. I also have in my system wall microphones placed around the house with long cable runs away from my XLR capable mixer and separate amp (Placed in a cabinet in a dedicated separate data room). The mixer has an input of 48v. I will be purchasing the Rode XLR Pro adapter for the reason of having a balanced system and also because of the long run of cabelling. Can you please confirm that, do I place the Rode XLR Pro adapter at the connection just rear of the wall microphone as oppose to at the mixer end? as I'm guessing the power conversion (5V) if done, will not carry such a long distance to the wall microphone. Please confirm. Many thanks in advance 😉
This was outstanding, long but if you actually think about what was actually covered, it was about right. You covered areas that most, even the manufacturers didn’t and you made the assumption, rightfully so that everyone was a beginner, which did more to validate your points. You have to remember for some, they want quick answers and when things go wrong, they look to blame others. The old saying is to measure twice and drill or cut once, which is what you did in your video. This is a video that anyone that sees it will walk away with the knowledge of making a confident, specific purchase, which should be the point of these videos in the first place. Great job done and you reiterated that point at the end. All new tech should devices should be explained this way because you gave answers and left no questions.
You answered all my questions. Thank you so much. Going to try setting up the RodeCaster Pro with the Rode Wireless Go II and speakers. I'll need one of these basic adapters without the electronics if I'm hearing you correctly? Hoping it works
Fantastic. I learned a lot that I didn't even knew I wanted to learn. May I ask a question: when you had 4 lavaliers that need power, and you used VXLR plus or pro to get into for example a zoom H6 for live streaming. How would you deal with the added noise? Thanks in advance for your help!
I think the noise should be relatively minimal. But if you have a lot of (and distracting noise), the best removal I know of is the iZotopes RX9 suite ( crsp.li/izotope ). Their Voice-Denoising is incredibly powerful and yet transparent (has very few artifacts).
Hi Chris, I noticed that in this video at the time around 17:50 you might have used the TRRS to TRRS cable which was shown at the time around 13:20. Could you please confirm that these three adapters does work fine with TRRS? Thanks a lot.🙏🙏😊😊
You are right, at 17:50 I do use a TRRS cable connected to the Røde VideoMic NTG. However, this does only work because the VideoMic NTG auto detects if the connection is TRRS or TRS. So, if you have a mic that only does TRRS, then you would have to adapt it with a TRRS to TRS adapter.
Hey Chris, if my Zoom H8 provide already phantom power, Do I still need the VXLR PRO or i can just go for the normal vxlr? I use a lavalier microphone and a xlr cable! I want the option that have less noise as possible! Thank you!
Rode VideoMicro comes with a 3 point TRS 3.5mm but you can but a 3 to 4 point TRRS cable for it. That's what I need to use it with iPhone. To go into my audio interface I need XLR. Why isn't the VXLR+ balanced? It uses 3 points. All I should need is the 3 point TRS cable that comes with VideoMicro and VLXR+. I don't understand why it's not balanced. Are you sure VXLR+ and Pro aren't both balanced but Pro has a signal amplifier for longer runs?
Hello Eric, I can only relay what Røde provides on their website and form that information it is pretty clear that the Plus is not balanced but the Pro is. The wiring diagram on the box / included in the package also show this pretty clearly. Just because it is 3 point XLR does not make it balanced. For a balanced it needs to invert the signal once and then on the receiving end those two signals get combined to get rid of possible interference. However, I have yet to find a situation where it actually made a difference in my every day use (in studio, not using it with 50m cables but more like 3m cables).
Nice video, thank you. I was just wondering, can I connect my 'rode wireless go' to my Panasonic UX 90 camcorder with the 'Røde VXLR'. Kees from the Netherlands.
If you want to use a XLR mic with your PC you need an audio interface with an XLR port. Something like the Focusrite Scarlett: crsp.li/FocusriteScarlett
English is not my main language, so I understood most of your review but still would need some precisions if you will. I have a Rode VideoMic NTG that I connect directly to my Sony cam. But, sometimes I would like to extend the length to make it like an in hand interview mic or like a mini boom setup, is a 10 feet 3.5mm extension made by Rode is ok? Second question, still with the Rode VideoMic NTG which of the 3 XLR adaptors I would need to connect to a handheld/field recorder like the Zoom F3 ? Many thanks
Both, the VXLR Plus and VXLR Pro would work for you. The Video Mic Go needs Plug-In Power and these Adapters will transform the Phantom Power from the XLR Port to Plug-In Power. Make sure the camcorder actually can provide Phantom Power. Lastly: choosing between the Plus and the Pro, please check the video above for the pros and cons.
I am not familiar with the 1/8th naming convention. But if the output of the Go is the same as your input, why not just use a cable to connect these? Sounds like you don’t need any of these adapters?
Great video my friend. Could I ask... I have a RUclips channel and use my "Rode Wireless Go" with my GoPro to create videos. However, I have been recently been asked to give some presentations to an audience about my hobby and I need to amplify my voice. The venue has an amplifier and I want to connect my "Rode Wireless Go" to it as the amplifier obviously has an XLR (female) input for a microphone. As the "Wireless Go" has a built in battery to transmit and receive the audio from rx to tx, would I just use the cheapest basic VXLR adaptor and plug the TRS mini jack into it and then plug the VXLR into the amp for sound output? Thanks in anticipation. Hopeus Maximus
I have 3.5 to xlr adapters and I can't get any of my 3.5mm mics (rode shotgun videomic go or any other brand) to work on any channel on my zoom podtrak 4. So I guess I will have to buy one of these adapters. But the other question is once I get the adapter do I switch the line in to phantom power or not?
Hi Roberto, generally most of the 3.5mm jack mics need something called "Plug In Power" and that is different from Phantom Power. So you will need an adapter that gives you that voltage adjustment. The ones that do that are the Røde VXLR Plus and the VXLR Pro. And when you do have one of these, you will have to turn on Phantom Power on the respective port you are plugging in the adapter.
Question: I have a Rode Wireless Go II (Which doesn't need phantom power) and i want to connect it via the XLR Port on the top handle of my Sony FX3. But it's very important that i get a STEREO signal because those two transmitters have to be split so i get both mics recorded on the one channel. Is that guaranteed with the cheap adapter which should fit my purpose? Sry if i sound dumb i am really not an audio guy. :-/ Thank you for the great video!
You would need a 3.5mm Jack Stereo Splitter cable and then two VXLR adapters so that you can get the Wireless GO II mapped onto two F6 ports. This is a video where I talk about something similar: ruclips.net/video/2z_er0XqmBU/видео.html
Thanks for your valuable information. I have a question that I would like to solve. To connect the transmitter of the Rode wireless Go II equipment DIRECTLY to a mixing console, it would be enough i SOLUTION Rode VXLR + or would you recommend the PRO ?. Thanks
Thank you @drakegostream, yes they just announced them and I was lucky to get in contact soon after and get these shipped to me from Australia. The communication with them was great as well. And in terms of the room, I am trying to get closer to the mic as much as I can, I am also using iZotope RX8 recently to run a slight de-reverb. I was given a chance to get a review copy from them as I plan on doing more podcast editing and audio cleanup videos. So that's probably part of the reason 🙈. Thanks again for leaving a comment, I appreciate that.
@@ChrisSpiegl well, honestly I was a little suspicious in terms of you might have used RX De-Reverb 😂 but still wanted to get things clear. These plugins are awesome, and from what I understand, if use it mildly, you’ll have pretty natural sound as a result, like you did here. The only drawback is obviously the price, so it’s a good thing that you managed to get that review copy! By the way, at some time you might want to make a video about relationship with PR-departments of companies may be? In terms of getting review samples, ethics, caveats etc. This topic might be extremely interesting to aspiring tech-tubers who might be established enough to apply for such things, but have no idea how that works! Also, really appreciate you sociability!
Thank you. It’s a definitely a privilege to be able to reach out to companies. But honestly, I am just learning the ropes of these relationships myself. But some day I’ll probably get into that in a video as you suggested. About the RX De-Reverb: it sure is pricy and yet so damn powerful. 👍 Definitely has to be done minimal but that’s what they are doing really well with the presets and such. Lastly, I still would prefer better room treatment. But that really is a not an easy feat. The ceilings are high and the apartment rented. You never know how much you want to fix upon leaving. 😅 Really enjoy the comment section. ☺️ the interaction is great and seeing the community grow is the best. 👍
Rode recommends VXLR Pro for use with Rode Go ii wireless units, but when I tried 2 Go ii transmitters in SPLIT mode and plugged in the Go ii receiver into one XLR input on a Zoom F6, only 1 channel would record. When I switched back to the original cheaper VXLR the Zoom F6 did split the audio channels. Have you tried this on your F6?
Well done, thanks. Can you use the VXLR + with a system that does not have phantom power but only Plug In Power? I work mostly with Plug In Power but sometimes with a 48V system. So instead of purchasing 2 different adapters, is it possible to use the VXLR + only? Cheers!
I am not 100% sure, it could work… but the description on the website of rode says: "The VXLR+ is a 3.5mm female TRS socket to male XLR adaptor, which will convert 12-48V Phantom Power down to 3-5V 'Plug in Power'". But maybe, if you provide PlugIn Power on the port it will just not transform it down and it ends up working 🙈.
Once again, I am back here, as I am about order VXLR adaptor - I have go Rode Go la, Rode Go Wireless and Zoom H5, I wish to use XLR connection also. So which one I should buy to solve all issues - VXLR-Pro ? or all of them for different microphones.
Sir, my salutations to both of you. Firstly your video is unnecessary long. I am a electronics engineer. The real difference between VXLR+ and pro is that the pro is true balanced. But questionable. Since I am using unbalanced mic, why would I want that hundreds of feet away. Rode in my opinion unnecessary made the pro. Capt Suresh Sharma just buy zxlr+. Cheers.
@@gogiaudios Thanks for your insights. The reason to put an Unbalanced mic so far away is because you have it and the mic can grow with you. And there is not really any reason to prevent you from getting a long XLR cable and then putting the VXLR Pro right there with the mic (having the unbalanced part be as short as possible).
Vielen Dank, das freut mich sehr dass es so rüber kommt. Ich experimentiere ein wenig immer wieder mal was anders. Mit zwei Kameras lässt sich das aber viel besser verwirklichen als vorher.
Thank you for your review. I tried to connect a Rode Lavalier Go with a zoom H8 recorder using the VXLR adapter (the cheap one without power) and it did not work. Any suggestions?
The VXLR (standard, non pro, non plus) version is not compatible with things like the Røde Lavalier Go. You will need the VXLR Plus or Pro and activate Phantom Power on the XLR port of the H8. Do not use the VXLR + Phantom Power + Lavalier GO! I have heard people have destroyed their microphones doing this.
Had the similar problem till I realized your lav mic needs a TRS adapter instead of TRRS, so I bought a TRRS to TRS to fix, not sure how that's going to affect the sound quality
So what happens if you use the standard VXLR with something like the Rode GO and forget to turn off phantom power on your recorder? Will it damage your device? I got the standard version becuase I do not need plug-in power for my Rode Go, but I wonder if I should be using the VLXR+ for protection in case I forget to turn off phantom power on my Zoom F6.
I have read a couple of stories of people who damaged their mic because of this (leaving on Phantom Power and plugging in a VXLR + Lavalier or similar). So I would either be super careful, or get the Pro/Plus version.
I need to match up with TS mono connectors from a cheap wireless set. To use them I think I need yet another adapter. NOT having a good time with this, but your mini-seminar did provide a good refresher on what a balanced signal is. Also, I read the comments, and even though nothing is balanced in the chain, and the shielding will only work if it's grounded on both ends - I hadn't considered using an XLR cable on the deck/recorder end. That may still be better than using a 3.5mm stereo extension.
Can the Røde Video Micro even deliver a balanced signal if I were to plug a TRRS cable into it? I seem to remember it shipping with a TRS cable only. I'm a newbie out to learn all this sound stuff ;)
The mic does not need to provide a balanced signal. That is why the XLR adapter should be as close to the mic as possible. From there the signal is then turned into a Balanced XLR signal and can be delivered over XLR to your audio recorder of choice.
Can I use the $9 dollar adapter since my rode mic pro has its own battery,, I just need a conector to my zoom f3, just want to make sure that my mic,.won't get destroy
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@@ChrisSpiegl yes, Premium. The scam ad prevalence is more evidence of the greed I feel. Profit is being put before the welfare of the platform users. They could stop them easily I’m sure if they didn’t prioritise the revenue.
Thank you for this video, thumbs up and I subscribed too! Question please. On my Canon XF400 camcorder that has a top handle with dual XLR inputs, I want to use either my Rode Wireless Go (Version 1) or my Saramonic UWMIC9 wireless lav mic. Both wireless mic systems are battery powered and I want to have either the Rode Wireless Go or the Saramonic UWMIC connect into say Channel 1 of the XLR input going into the Canon XF400 camcorder. Which of the 3 Rode adapters should I use? If I heard you correctly, you are saying I should use the basic VXLR model (the lowest priced one) since my wireless lav mic systems are self-powered...is that correct? I'm currently using the VXLR+ (plus) adapter, will that cause a problem such as interference or strange background noise? Thank you!
You can use any of them. The basic model VXLR is the one with the least electronics and in my tests it introduced the least noise. But you already have the plus, so just use that unless it introduced problems.
@@ChrisSpiegl Actually I have both the basic VXLR and Plus models. I'm going to switch to the basic model because I can hear a tiny bit of scratchy electronic sound in the background when using the Plus model, so hopefully the basic model will fix that. Thanks!
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank you! Do you think I should bother to return the Rode VXLR+ that I recently got from Amazon and get the Pro model instead? It will not be for my Rode Wireless Go into my Canon XF400 camcorder. I'm just wondering if the Pro model adapter might be useful for another application? I have various podcasting gear such as the Rode Rodecaster Pro and the Zoom PodTrak P4 which I make RUclips content about. I'm wondering if I might ever need the Pro version of the adapter? I mostly use XLR type microphones for podcasting audio gear, as well as various wireless lav mic systems for my various Canon DSLR and camcorder gear.
@@caseyonlocation8257 After comparing these adapters I would pretty much tell people to go with the VXLR or the Pro and not bother with the Plus (unless it's a decision made by finances and you need the plugin power). The Pro simply has all the options available Phantom Power to Plug In power transformer + balanced signal transmission and going from TRS to XLR… So if you want to be versatile go for the Pro and return the Plus. Important note, just as a reminder: when you use the Pro and you want to use long distances, it is important that the "long cable" is the XLR one (and not a TRS extension cord or stuff like that). But if you only want to ever use this type of adapter to bring in a TRS based Wireless System, I would just go for the VXLR standard version.
You're talking about the Røde VideoMic NTG: that works by default with these adapters. You'd connect the mic directly (with the short TRRS cable) to the Røde VXLR Pro adapter. Then send it through a long XLR cable to whatever system you need it to go to. The audio recorder or interface has to then also provide Phantom Power!
I have not used the GO2 but the first one. And the VXLR (non plus/pro) is totally fine for that use-case. 🌸 However: When you use the GO2, then the problem is that you can only use a mono signal. If you need to use the stereo split with both mics on their own tracks then you’d have to use a left/right split cable and two VXLR adapters.
One question Chris. By connecting the rx rode GO II to two xlr channels with the vxlr pro adapter to a mixer with single phantom power for all channels, the problems of over powering the Rx are eliminated? . I imagine that if the basic adapter is used it could damage the Rx, or would it not be advisable to use this type of connection with the Phantom activated regardless of the connector? Thanks.
When you are using the VXLR Pro or Plus, then you can safely activate Phantom Power. This will not hurt the microphone. The Røde Wireless Go II does not need Plug In Power, but it's not going to be hurt by it either. Best example: any camera with a 3.5mm jack provides plug-in power and you can safely use the Wireless Go with those as well 👍.
Depending on the length, I would recommend to go with a XLR cable and then a short cable to the mic. If you want to do it the other way around (long TRS cable and directly plug the adapter into the interface / recorder) then I'd go with the VXLR+.
Do you mean you have a Ride VideoMic Pro+? Since you can turn this mic on all the way manually you could just use the VXLR. but if you want to use it with long distance, I’d go with the VXLR Pro.
Qué adaptador VXLR necesito para conectar un Micrófono RODE Wirelees GOII a una consola de audio??? Y si necesito algún cable atenuador para que no se arruine el Mic RODE Wirelees GOII???
You can use the Røde VXLR (basic / standard) version. Then turn off any plugin/phantom-power on the channel you are connecting the Wireless Go II to. Additionally: if you plan on using both channels of the Wireless Go II separately, then you need two VXLR adapters & a L/R Splitter cable. Because XLR is always mono.
Do I understand correctly: you normalized all the noise samples to the same level? I would like to know if there's a noise level difference between the Plus and Pro when you normalize both by using a reference signal and than comparing the noise levels. Or did you test that already? I'd like to know if the Pro version produces more noise since it has more electronics inside.
I usually do always normalize the levels to -16dbfs and then compare. However, I have since found that sometimes the samples I normalized are with speaking parts before or after which kind of muddies the result again because the normalization would then also take those potentially different sections into account. I will probably do these tests better next time (not for these adapters though). Generally I found them all three to be relatively close together but the one without electronics does have a bit less noise if you don't need it. The other two where basically indistinguishable to my ears. 🌸
ZOOM recorders (I have ZOOM H6) can send plug-in power to their XLR inputs, so in this case the simple VXLR will do the job. Am I missing something here?
No, if you'r recorder can change between Phantom and Plug-In power then you would be ok using the Plug-In Power (around 5V) and use the VXLR adapter only.
@@ChrisSpiegl so you can connect a fairly long XLR cable to your zoom recorder, a VXLR adpter in the other end, where you connect your 3.5 mic requireing plug-in power? Say a Rode videomic go 2?
@@tfransson When going long distance it is advised to use the VXLR Pro because it can provide the 3 phasic audio signal (balanced) and thus reduce interference issues and such things.
Most dynamic and condenser microphones operate at very low voltages, typically between 1 and 10 millivolts (mV). Therefore, the sound console's XLR input will provide enough voltage to power these microphones without the need for phantom power.
Hi Syafiq Zailan, I don't have the Deity V-Mic D3 Pro any more so I can't test it; But: the D3 should be able to work with the VXLR Plus or Pro model. This is because you will need the Phantom Power to be converted to Plug In power. The reason being that the D3 Mic needs the Plug In power to actually turn on (this is because of the strange stand by mode).
@@ChrisSpiegl I’m wedding videographer would I be able to use my rode wireless go with dj mixer to transmit audio directly to the camera using ur adapter to connect it to a mixer
@@davidrofa4875 I have never tested what happens when you send a signal “into” the XLR side. But I’d assume it’d work as you are thinking. Probably I would try to use the VXLR version in that case.
The common rejection mode, i.e the sum of the two signals of an xlr input is done in the recorder. So I really don’t understand what the pro does. The trs signal that is input in into the xlr pro cannot be balanced because there is only one signal. So I don’t understand the advertising of Rode. You can only filter this signal. It might then be sometime closer to a balanced signal but it is not a balanced signal.
After asking CHATGPT, I now understand that the VXLR+ and VXLR are not really transforming a TRS signal input into an XLR signal although they are called adapters. In Rode ‘ s vocabulary an adapter does not transform. These adapters just forward the TRS unbalanced signal onto pin1 and connect pin2 to ground. The signal remains unbalanced. Whereas the Pro feeds pin2 with the inverted TRS signal. The VXLR+ is then ok if you directly connect it to your recorder. Makes sense not to bother creating a real XLR signal for that purpose.
Yes, that's how I understand the adapters, and as far as I remember that's also what I am saying about them in this video. VXLR+ if your cable is short, and you just need plug-in power for your lav. VXLR Pro if you want to run a cable across a long distance and would like the balanced transmission from the adapter to the recorder.
The "plug-in power" for electret microphones (most of the lavalier mics) is officially called "bias voltage". These Røde devices seem to be the only high quality adapters that can provide XLR adapter with bias voltage without introducing lots of noise. All the cheaper models available cause lots of noise as far as I know.
Thank you for *clearly* explaining the difference between VXLR+ and VXLR Pro. In short, you want VXLR Pro only if you need a long XLR cable between the adapter and the audio interface. I'm planning to use electret microphone connected to nearby audio interface so VXLR+ is the best option for me because I can plug the adapter directly to the interface.
For dynamic mics you can usually connect the 6.3 mm connector directly to the audio interface, too.
Thank you for the clarification and helpful comment 👍 that's awesome.
Hi @ChrisSpiegl
Thank you so much for the detailed video!
Based on your explanation, I confirmed that my workflow will be correct - Focusrite Clarett 2pre - > 48v Phantom Power - > Rode VXLR Pro - > Rode SC1 6 meters long cord- > RODE Lavalier II
I think that for this home setup should be enough Rode VXLR+ however, I want to be sure that signal is best as good as possible :)
Thank you
Tomas
Hello, this adapter is also suitable for the Tascam DR 40X
20:30 isn’t trs balanced? Ts is unbalanced. Though idk if this works the same for 3.5 mm (mini jack) as 1/4 inch
From my understanding: TRS is stereo but not balanced. And XLR cables usually are more robust and better shielded.
Hola, este adaptador le sirve también a la Tascam DR 40X
I have a Videomic Pro+ and a Wireless GO II to be connected to a Zoom H5 using very short cables. Which one do I need? I guess the VXLR should be enough. Am I wrong?
Both cases you can use the cheapest Røde VXLR. But then you have to manually turn on the VideoMic Pro+ and make sure it stays turned on.
Would the XLR Pro be the right application to take 3.55 mm TRS output of a wireless microphone system (i.e., Hollyland Lark M1, Djii Mic, etc.) and brining it into a XLR input of a wireless mixer? Or it should only be used as an input microphone to such a system.
For this type of purpose you could use any of the three.
Thanks for the awesome explanation. May I ask can I use 3.5 to xlr cable and will work, or I must buy Røde VXLR Adapter
Great video. Maybe you mentioned and I missed it, but what about using an XLR mic and then converting to 3.5 to go into your camera directly. Does the Pro model work for that?
No, XLR has male and female, and you'd end up with exactly the wrong one when using it with a mic. There are different adapters for this. However, in the realm of connecting XLR mics directly to a camera with 3.5 mm, you have to make sure that you don't use a mic which needs Phantom Power - since your camera probably can't provide that. Generally, I'd advise not to do it this way and use mics that are made to connect to a camera or use an audio interface / recorder in between mic and camera.
I came here to learn about VXLR Pro but more than half the video is gone, you are still talking about the basic VXLR. I hope you take a note on this for your next video.
Hello DamSak Handa, there are time markers, those probably help in finding the information you are looking for.
This is a comparison video for the Røde VXLR series, so it makes sense to talk about all three of them.
Anyways, thanks for your feedback and have a great day 🌸.
@@ChrisSpiegl Okay, That is fine if you don't get what I am talking about. Still, what I am saying is video is titled on Pro version, but more than half is on basic version. why not shorting the time for basic and give us more on what we came for?
@@damsakhanda5043 I’ll consider it next time. 👍
Another benefit of the VXLR Pro is broader compatibility compared to the VXLR Plus. This is because its transformer-balanced outputs can be used with transformer-balanced inputs, which will not accept a signal from an unbalanced output.
A super helpful explanation of the VXLR Pro adapter.
Thank you 🌸 I appreciate your comment here.
With the VXLR Pro, can I go straight from my 1DX Mark II to a RODE NTG5?
Hi TreyDaze, that's not how the VXLR adapters work. The 1Dx Mark II expects a male 3.5mm jack signal and the NTG5 provides you with a male XLR port.
However, as far as I understand the NTG5 can also be powered by battery and then you could find other adapters which may be able to give you this functionality.
Thanks for the video.
One ( dumb) Question with answer ( from RODE)..Is One pin of VXLR PLUS longer than the other two?
Why is one pin of the XLR connector longer than the other two? is this normal?
Yes, this is perfectly normal and is a design feature of the RØDE microphone.
The ground XLR pin (pin 1) is designed to be slightly longer than the other two pins. This is to ensure that when an XLR is plugged into the mic XLR socket the first pin that comes into contact is the ground pin. This feature is implemented in all RØDE microphones to protect the microphone circuitry from a static electricity short that could potentially damage the microphone circuitry.
That's absolutely right. I wondered the same for a while. But read this info on their Instagram at some point. So good, they make it safe(r) for us to use.
if i have a Rode NTG and would like to plug in to my ENG camera, which should i use?
First for clarification:
- do you mean the Ride VideoMic NTG?
- and you want to connect that mic to a camera with a XLR input?
Please let me know. But if those assumptions are correct, the Rode VXLR+ would be good. That would give you the option to activate phantom power and with that the mic would turn in by itself when you turn the camera on.
Thanks for the thorough video. I was disappointed to find out that my VXLR+ does NOT convert the signal to balanced. Oh well, need to buy even more stuff... By the way: i would not consider 9m cable run as long. General advice is that unbalanced runs can be used up to 10m, and balanced can go easily to 300m.
Hi Semi Lumi, I had a similar reaction back when I got the VXLR+; but at last, Røde now makes a balanced version.
In terms of length of the XLR cable… I totally understand that, the only problem is I don't have that long an XLR cable 🙈. Otherwise, I would have tested it for sure. This video was intended more as an explanation of the differences.
Thank you for your comment 🌸.
@Semi Lumi That’s a slightly misleading statement about cable length; it needs clarification with regard to the type of signal you’re sending. Balancing doesn’t inherently mean you can use a long cable, as there is always signal loss the longer a cable is, so for example you’d be most unwise to send a mic level signal 300m even if it’s balanced. A line level signal might be fine. The point of balancing is its resistance to interference hence you can use longer cables without fear of picking up electrical interference but you still need to ensure the signal itself is suitable for the distance you’re sending it.
@@arnoldsnodgrass2953 thank you for these insights. Great.
I was getting ready to purchase either the $10 or $25 adapter and I’m really glad I found your video to help me. I thought this was a really great video and a very clear comparison of the adapters. For me, I’m using a different scenario. I have a Movo VXR10 mic and I would like to connect it to a Behringer studio mixer. My purpose for this is because I run the mic along with a guitar and another audio source into the mixer then I have a sub out from mixer that goes straight to my iPhone or iPad while I’m recording video. The mixer will provide phantom power but I’m still not sure if the $25 adapter will accomplish this and I will be using it as a boom mic so would need a 10’ or so cable. Can you tell me if the $25 adapter will work for this?
The options are VXLR / VXLR Plus / VXLR Pro.
For what you are describing the VXLR Plus and VXLR Pro would work since the mic needs plugin power you need an adapter that takes Phantom Power and transforms it into plugin power which both of these do.
The Pro has some more electronics to minimize electric static and interferences which can be picked up by the cable. But to make use of that the VXLR Pro has to be as close to the mic as possible (so a long XLR cable, then the adapter, then the mic).
If you are tight on cash, I'd go with the VXLR Plus and hope my setup does not provide too much interferences.
i want to get the vxlr pro to set up a lav with the zoom f3.... do those tentacle lavs have a high noise floor or do lavs just sound noisier connected to these adapters...
The tentacle lavs are not the best. They are equivalent to lavs that costa round 30-50$.
it really helps a lot, thank you Chris for the great job, i was looking for this comparison video everywhere
Thank you, I appreciate your comment a lot 🌸.
So can i use the Rode Video Mic NTG with the rode vxlr connected to a focusrite 2i2 audio interface/sound card ?
In that case I would recommend using the Pro or Plus. Singly because otherwise you loose the auto power on / off feature and you’d also need a specific TRS to TRS cable since if you use the VXLR standard with the TRRS you may run into sound artifacts as I have found in other tests with the VideoMic NTG.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank u fr ur suggestions 😊, so can i use a normal trs to trs cable provided by rode, with mics like video mic go( the red short cable) with a VXLR plus or pro, or can i get the work done by vxlr only with i use a specific cable like u mentioned ..( trs to trs) ? Getting bit confused here,
The vxlr pro is really expensive and so i am considering the alternatives 🤔. ( akso I don’t want the auto on/off feature, will do it manually)
My focusrite 2i2 audio interface had the option to turn the phantom power on and off.
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I hv the trs - trs cable by rode which o got with my rode wireless go 2 , and also another one with the rode video mic go.
By specific cables, did u meant with a cable like this ?
@@RivuSouravBanerjeeVideoEditor Yes, when using the TRS to TRS cable with the mics like VideoMic NTG and Wireless Go then you should be good with the Røde VXLR adapter 👍. Just try to keep the cables short or at least make a test recording and listen for any possible in interferences.
@@ChrisSpiegl thanks Chris fr the suggestions, i will keep it short. at a max i may use the RODE VC-1 3 meters cabel with it.
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In terms of cable: i'd try to stay even shorter (under 1 meter if possible). But just listen into it and see if you pick up any unwanted noise.
Looking forward to connecting with you on the other mediums.
Thanks for an excellent and thorough explanation. Can i connect a microphone 3.5mm jack to rode vxlr pro adapter, hook the adapter with a xlr female side of the cable and hook the audio recorder with this cable? Does this effect any sound quality? And does this transfer the plug in power?
Wow. Pretty lengthy video/explanation however the last two and a half minutes were all that was really needed. That said, Thanks for the time and effort that went into the production.
Thank you. So. If i understand correctly. I can use the Rode VXLR+ to connect my 3,5 mm jack mic on my gaming headset to my audio interface (Audient Id4). And it should work. Right?
I bought the pro model, it made a lot of noise (like rain). It didn't work on the M-Audio Fast track pro. And It did not work on the SSL+ 2 either. Seems to probably have been a dud?
was wondering if this set up will work. 2 rode transmitter 1 rode receiver with rode sc 11 cable sple splitter connected to 2 vxlr+ to a zoom f3 the ouput to the camera? will the ouput be a 2 channel or 1?
If you use a stereo splitter cable you can get the signal to two VXLR adapters => two channels on the Zoom F3.
To connect Wireless GO II to a mixer, can I use VXLR+? ( I know VXLR+ is used while using microphones which need phantom power) But I am asking this since I already have VXLR+ and do I need ot again buy VXLR to use with Wireless GO II.
20:37 ok but TRS can be balanced if you send a mono signal over it if you treat it as an xlr? this is how lavs are balanced and hopefully the Pro keeps it that way though the transformer ? This is why all lavs seem to have a stereo TRS connection instead of just a mono TS connection but produce a mono signal in the end, no ?
Very informative video. Thank you for putting this together. So for my Rode Video Mic NTG...the VXLR Pro is the way to go (provides cleanest signal path) when connecting it to my Zoom H6 and Focusrite Clarett 4 Pre? If so, would that be with or without the 48v button on the interface engaged?
Thank you. Generally, I would say the VXLR Pro would be my fav choice. However, the signal may actually be a bit cleaner with the VXLR base model IF the cables are really short (since the base model does not have any electronics and thus introduces less noise).
In terms of Phantom Power: you do not need Phantom Power for the Video Mic NTG… but, it makes your life easier if you engage the 48v since then the mic actually will turn on by itself when the audio recorder is turned on.
Hi Chris great video I have just ordered the VXLR Pro to go with my videomic NTG and the odd use with my lab mic. For the nth tests what gain do you set on the mic? I normally have it set to 10 for overhead use. But as I will be adding gain from my preamp is it better to run the ntg at a lower gain setting than I normally use???
In my experience it is best to run the VideoMic NTG (and most other mics) at the highest gain setting possible so that you get as loud a signal as you can out of it to begin with (unless the mic capsule is clipping, then it would be better to use the -20db feature since the gain knob actually does not really fix that anyways).
@@ChrisSpiegl thanks for the speedy reply never thought to run it like that will give it a try.
Finally Somebody who gets plug in power correct it's amazing and not 48V phantom.
Excellent! I think Rode does a poor job of explaining the difference between their adapters then again pretty much everybody does. I spent almost 5 years looking for a 48v to plug in power converter it was really difficult as I kept getting the passive adapters in my searches.
The 3.5 mm TRRS cables have really complicated things. Traditionally that connector was used for left right and ground and some other variations. prior to that it was just a tip and sleeve left and ground with right on a separate Second connector since we started with mono and added stereo later. There are many other variations like with video cameras and audio / video or stereo audio / video and there's the iPod audio and video which morphed into the iPhone headset standard with the microphone. Which of course completed with The Other TRRS Standard which we should've ended up with because it would have solved so many other issues swapping microphone and ground on the 4 pole connector.
Speaking of which if you ever plug in a 4P connection into a headphone jack and have low signal but get better signal with it slightly out it's because the Jack is not aware of the 4 pole connection and it's treating the very bottom one as ground which it is not it it's the microphone and this can be very annoying. And most people don't understand why.
A lot to take in. I was trying to figure out which one would work with my video mic Audio Technica AT8024. Can you give me a hint? because I couldn't find if this thing is balanced or not.
The Røde VXLR Pro (crsp.li/RodeVxlrPro) which is the newest of the three (and most expensive) is balanced and can be used on long distances. Important to note is that the cable between the mic and the adapter should be as short as possible and then the XLR cable is the one that can be longer.
VXLR Pro has stereo signal on TRS input and monio output on XLR side. What happens with stereo signal?
This was intriguing to me so I tested it. Long story short: The right channel appears to be dropped and only the left channel goes through the adapter - but only on the Pro. So…
VXLR Pro:
· Left TRS => XLR
· Right TRS => Ignored
VXLR+:
· Left TRS => XLR
· Right TRS => Ignored
VXLR:
· Left & Right are Mixed into the Mono-XLR Signal
So if you want a mix on the VXLR+ and Pro you could use a Stereo to Mono TRS adapter when going into the TRS end of the VXLR adapter.
Thanks for the video. But what do I use to connect a stereo lav mic that needs plugin-power (Sony Stereo-Lavalier-Mikrofon ECM-LV1). Of course i would need to split the Stereo-TRS into two Mono TS-jacks and use two XLR-Adapters. But do both need to transform Phantom-Power to plugin-power or just one and if yes, which?
I have never tried this, but I'd assume that both would need Phantom to Plug In Power adapters. So, I'd say go with the VXLR Plus or Pro version twice and then have the splitter.
@@ChrisSpiegl Hi Chris, thanks for your answer. I tried it out and you are right. A stereo lav ist just like two lavs, you'll need two VXLR+ or Pros. By the way: the VXLR+ only uses the left channel (or the tip of a 3,5 jack) as input und only sends Plug-in-Power over the tip. The VXLR uses tip and ring or left and right channel as input, it makes a mono-mixdown. I didn't tested the VXLR Pro. Thanks, chris
I have the Rode lavalier omnidirectional lapel mic, with trs output. I am not sure if Rode lavelier mic need phantom power. I would like to connect to my Mackie Profx10 mixer with phantom power button. Will VXLR do the job well?
I have headphones with a microphone jack, I tried to connect it to my external audio interface with an adapter to the bigger aux cable, but the microphone doesn't work. Could one of this adapters help me solve it?
Could be that the mic needs plugin power so if that is the case you may be able to use the VXLR Plus or Pro to make it work (as long as your audio interface can provide phantom power).
However, it may be better to just get a mic for the price of those adapters and be set.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thanks for the super-quick answer!
@@mrfranponzio782 You're welcome 🌸.
Thanks for this great information !
Could a Rode NTG4+ be connected to a Rode Go2 with a female XLR adapter to TRS connector?
The adapters shown here seemed to have only male XLR connection.
You need a different kind of adapter to do this. But they do exist.
Really clear and detailed description of three converters. I use vxlr (not plus or pro) with lav mic that doen not need plug in power. with Sound Devices Mix Pre ii in one of the mic channels. But one thing one must remember is to turn off the phantom power in the channel one is using. If you forget that you are likely to blow your lav mic and making it useless.
Does the Rode VXLR PRO work with the Deity v-mic d4? I wouldn't want to burn a new microphone, but I would love to connect it to my audio interface.
Yes, the VXLR Pro works with the Deity V-Mic D4. You have to turn on Phantom Power on the audio interface.
Can i plug 3.5mm dynamic microphone without phantom power converter? Does it work just by xlr to 3.5mm convertor?
If I plug a single plug stereo 3.5mm (Clippy EM272Z1 Stereo Microphone) into the Rode VXLR+ mounted on a Zoom F3. Will the Zoom be able to recognize that as a two channel stereo file or will it become a mono signal? Thanks.
You need two such adapters and a splitter from one 3.5 stereo female plug to two 3.5 mono male plugs (search for aviation headset adapter cable).
First..great info. Question if anyone can answer. Just bought the RodeCaster Pro (which has 48-v phantom power). Wanted to plug my RODE NTG MIC into it so am going to need one of these adapters. However, I want the MIC to automatically power up when I power on the RodeCaster Pro. So, I’m not sure if I need the power converter versions. Just double checking I’ll be okay with the basic Rode VXLR ( which doesn’t convert power). Don’t want to damage the MIC. Anyone know if I’ll be okay with that setup?
To be able to use the auto power on/off feature of the Røde mics, you will have to go with either the Pro or the Plus. Then activate phantom power on the channel and the mic will turn on by itself.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank you!
It might have been helpful for greenhorns like myself to point out that the signal balancing provided by the VXLR Pro is only relevant for the length of the XLR cable between the adapter and the mixer.
It has no impact on the mic cable itself (between the mic and the adapter).
I.e. if I plug in my lavalier mic directly to a zoom recorder input there is no use in using a VXLR Pro, correct?
I thought I mentioned this at some point in the video. You are correct: it's best to make sure the cable between the VXLR Pro and the Mic is as short as possible. The Signal Balancing is only between the VXLR Pro and the audio recorder.
If you plug in the lavalier into the VXLR and then directly into the audio recorder you would not "need" this feature of balancing. However, I would probably still go for the VXLR Pro since a lavalier would need Plug-In Power and so you already are going to buy the VXLR Plus and then having the Pro would just make it so it's more versatile in future setups.
Finally i understand why my rode mics doesn't work with my audio interface. Nice man, thank's.
You're welcome 👍
If I wanted to take a sound source from say a DJ's soundboard/loudspeaker (XLR out) to my rode wireless go - am I ok using the basic VXLR? Or do I need the VXLR+ to stop it from frying my wireless go?
I would guess that would work - if the XLR output has the correct connector. But usually those are the opposite port aren't they?
@@ChrisSpiegl it could very well be a RCA/6.5mm output etc... but assuming it had a XLR out for me to take the feed would the basic VXLR adapter + 3.5mm cable to the wireless go be adequate? Or would I would I need the VXLR+ (with the voltage attenuator feature) to stop it from frying my wireless go?
@@godsakes With output signals of devices like this you'd just need the VXLR.
If i want to use my rode wireless go with my zoom h8, What adapter should i buy?
Is the rode wireless go need phantom power/Plug in power when using it with my zoom h8?
The Wireless Go does not need any power and you can just use the VXLR.
My SmartLav+ mic seems to work with my Zoom F3 via the Rode VXLR basic adapter, with phantom power either set for 24v or 48v - shouldn't it need one of the more advanced adapters for plug-in power?
If you use this a lot, the mic may be fried at some point. Just saying.
@@ChrisSpiegl ah, that makes sense, thanks.
Brilliant Comparison video 😀.
I have a large house and have a "balanced" microphone PA system in my house. I also have in my system wall microphones placed around the house with long cable runs away from my XLR capable mixer and separate amp (Placed in a cabinet in a dedicated separate data room). The mixer has an input of 48v. I will be purchasing the Rode XLR Pro adapter for the reason of having a balanced system and also because of the long run of cabelling. Can you please confirm that, do I place the Rode XLR Pro adapter at the connection just rear of the wall microphone as oppose to at the mixer end? as I'm guessing the power conversion (5V) if done, will not carry such a long distance to the wall microphone. Please confirm. Many thanks in advance 😉
This was outstanding, long but if you actually think about what was actually covered, it was about right. You covered areas that most, even the manufacturers didn’t and you made the assumption, rightfully so that everyone was a beginner, which did more to validate your points. You have to remember for some, they want quick answers and when things go wrong, they look to blame others. The old saying is to measure twice and drill or cut once, which is what you did in your video.
This is a video that anyone that sees it will walk away with the knowledge of making a confident, specific purchase, which should be the point of these videos in the first place. Great job done and you reiterated that point at the end. All new tech should devices should be explained this way because you gave answers and left no questions.
You answered all my questions. Thank you so much. Going to try setting up the RodeCaster Pro with the Rode Wireless Go II and speakers. I'll need one of these basic adapters without the electronics if I'm hearing you correctly? Hoping it works
With the Wireless Go II you are fine with the basic one.
Fantastic. I learned a lot that I didn't even knew I wanted to learn.
May I ask a question: when you had 4 lavaliers that need power, and you used VXLR plus or pro to get into for example a zoom H6 for live streaming. How would you deal with the added noise?
Thanks in advance for your help!
I think the noise should be relatively minimal. But if you have a lot of (and distracting noise), the best removal I know of is the iZotopes RX9 suite ( crsp.li/izotope ). Their Voice-Denoising is incredibly powerful and yet transparent (has very few artifacts).
Hi Chris, I noticed that in this video at the time around 17:50 you might have used the TRRS to TRRS cable which was shown at the time around 13:20. Could you please confirm that these three adapters does work fine with TRRS? Thanks a lot.🙏🙏😊😊
You are right, at 17:50 I do use a TRRS cable connected to the Røde VideoMic NTG. However, this does only work because the VideoMic NTG auto detects if the connection is TRRS or TRS.
So, if you have a mic that only does TRRS, then you would have to adapt it with a TRRS to TRS adapter.
Got it. Thank you so much, Chris@@ChrisSpiegl
Hey Chris, if my Zoom H8 provide already phantom power, Do I still need the VXLR PRO or i can just go for the normal vxlr? I use a lavalier microphone and a xlr cable! I want the option that have less noise as possible! Thank you!
Rode VideoMicro comes with a 3 point TRS 3.5mm but you can but a 3 to 4 point TRRS cable for it. That's what I need to use it with iPhone. To go into my audio interface I need XLR. Why isn't the VXLR+ balanced? It uses 3 points. All I should need is the 3 point TRS cable that comes with VideoMicro and VLXR+. I don't understand why it's not balanced. Are you sure VXLR+ and Pro aren't both balanced but Pro has a signal amplifier for longer runs?
Hello Eric, I can only relay what Røde provides on their website and form that information it is pretty clear that the Plus is not balanced but the Pro is. The wiring diagram on the box / included in the package also show this pretty clearly.
Just because it is 3 point XLR does not make it balanced. For a balanced it needs to invert the signal once and then on the receiving end those two signals get combined to get rid of possible interference.
However, I have yet to find a situation where it actually made a difference in my every day use (in studio, not using it with 50m cables but more like 3m cables).
What adapter do you need for DJI wireless to be connected into zoom f6??? Should we use 2 XLR-s???
If you want to get both channels (Left / Right) then you'd need a TRS splitter cable. Then two VXLR would be good enough.
Nice video, thank you. I was just wondering, can I connect my 'rode wireless go' to my Panasonic UX 90 camcorder with the 'Røde VXLR'. Kees from the Netherlands.
As described in the video, a Rode Wirreless Go needs no Phantom Power or Plug In power so yes the Røde VXLR would be enough (crsp.li/RodeVXLR)
@@ChrisSpiegl Thanks Chris. Bless you. Kees
This is another brilliant video Chris. I very much appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment 🌸.
What about if i want to use NTG4+ with XLR to my PC, can i use thos adapters also`?
If you want to use a XLR mic with your PC you need an audio interface with an XLR port. Something like the Focusrite Scarlett: crsp.li/FocusriteScarlett
So could I do Rode Videomic Go(battery powered) > Rode 3.5mm extension 10’ > Rode VXLR > Zoom H6?
You could. But it be better to use the VXLR plus and a long XLR cable.
English is not my main language, so I understood most of your review but still would need some precisions if you will. I have a Rode VideoMic NTG that I connect directly to my Sony cam. But, sometimes I would like to extend the length to make it like an in hand interview mic or like a mini boom setup, is a 10 feet 3.5mm extension made by Rode is ok? Second question, still with the Rode VideoMic NTG which of the 3 XLR adaptors I would need to connect to a handheld/field recorder like the Zoom F3 ? Many thanks
Which adapter I need to conect my rode video mic go. I have my camcorder nexcam 100. Tanks for helpful.!
Both, the VXLR Plus and VXLR Pro would work for you. The Video Mic Go needs Plug-In Power and these Adapters will transform the Phantom Power from the XLR Port to Plug-In Power.
Make sure the camcorder actually can provide Phantom Power.
Lastly: choosing between the Plus and the Pro, please check the video above for the pros and cons.
@@ChrisSpiegl thanks for your quick answer you have a new subscriber
@@noe_domingo360 thanks 😊 and happy recording.
So, I can't use the 1/8th output from the Go receiver and plug it into the 1/8th input (channels 3 and 4) of my recorder to record audio?
I am not familiar with the 1/8th naming convention. But if the output of the Go is the same as your input, why not just use a cable to connect these? Sounds like you don’t need any of these adapters?
So which one do I use for the Rode VideoMicro to plug into my Rodecaster Duo?
Great video my friend. Could I ask... I have a RUclips channel and use my "Rode Wireless Go" with my GoPro to create videos. However, I have been recently been asked to give some presentations to an audience about my hobby and I need to amplify my voice. The venue has an amplifier and I want to connect my "Rode Wireless Go" to it as the amplifier obviously has an XLR (female) input for a microphone. As the "Wireless Go" has a built in battery to transmit and receive the audio from rx to tx, would I just use the cheapest basic VXLR adaptor and plug the TRS mini jack into it and then plug the VXLR into the amp for sound output? Thanks in anticipation. Hopeus Maximus
I have 3.5 to xlr adapters and I can't get any of my 3.5mm mics (rode shotgun videomic go or any other brand) to work on any channel on my zoom podtrak 4.
So I guess I will have to buy one of these adapters. But the other question is once I get the adapter do I switch the line in to phantom power or not?
Hi Roberto, generally most of the 3.5mm jack mics need something called "Plug In Power" and that is different from Phantom Power. So you will need an adapter that gives you that voltage adjustment.
The ones that do that are the Røde VXLR Plus and the VXLR Pro.
And when you do have one of these, you will have to turn on Phantom Power on the respective port you are plugging in the adapter.
Question: I have a Rode Wireless Go II (Which doesn't need phantom power) and i want to connect it via the XLR Port on the top handle of my Sony FX3. But it's very important that i get a STEREO signal because those two transmitters have to be split so i get both mics recorded on the one channel. Is that guaranteed with the cheap adapter which should fit my purpose? Sry if i sound dumb i am really not an audio guy. :-/ Thank you for the great video!
Chris so how would to connect a Rode Wireless Go II to the F6 ? Thanks for your input.
You would need a 3.5mm Jack Stereo Splitter cable and then two VXLR adapters so that you can get the Wireless GO II mapped onto two F6 ports.
This is a video where I talk about something similar: ruclips.net/video/2z_er0XqmBU/видео.html
@@ChrisSpiegl Thanks for the update.
Whith this adapter, can i use a Sennheiser 908B ew wired on a mixer with 48V on?
Thanks for your valuable information.
I have a question that I would like to solve.
To connect the transmitter of the Rode wireless Go II equipment DIRECTLY to a mixing console, it would be enough i SOLUTION Rode VXLR + or would you recommend the PRO ?.
Thanks
I would get the VXLR standard version for the Rode Wireless Go II since it has it's own power.
Wow you're fast! They just announced them :D Also, you're working on your room treatment, aren't ya? I hear almost no reverb in late videos, good job!
Thank you @drakegostream, yes they just announced them and I was lucky to get in contact soon after and get these shipped to me from Australia. The communication with them was great as well.
And in terms of the room, I am trying to get closer to the mic as much as I can, I am also using iZotope RX8 recently to run a slight de-reverb. I was given a chance to get a review copy from them as I plan on doing more podcast editing and audio cleanup videos. So that's probably part of the reason 🙈.
Thanks again for leaving a comment, I appreciate that.
@@ChrisSpiegl well, honestly I was a little suspicious in terms of you might have used RX De-Reverb 😂 but still wanted to get things clear. These plugins are awesome, and from what I understand, if use it mildly, you’ll have pretty natural sound as a result, like you did here. The only drawback is obviously the price, so it’s a good thing that you managed to get that review copy!
By the way, at some time you might want to make a video about relationship with PR-departments of companies may be? In terms of getting review samples, ethics, caveats etc. This topic might be extremely interesting to aspiring tech-tubers who might be established enough to apply for such things, but have no idea how that works!
Also, really appreciate you sociability!
Thank you. It’s a definitely a privilege to be able to reach out to companies. But honestly, I am just learning the ropes of these relationships myself. But some day I’ll probably get into that in a video as you suggested.
About the RX De-Reverb: it sure is pricy and yet so damn powerful. 👍
Definitely has to be done minimal but that’s what they are doing really well with the presets and such.
Lastly, I still would prefer better room treatment. But that really is a not an easy feat. The ceilings are high and the apartment rented. You never know how much you want to fix upon leaving. 😅
Really enjoy the comment section. ☺️ the interaction is great and seeing the community grow is the best. 👍
Rode recommends VXLR Pro for use with Rode Go ii wireless units, but when I tried 2 Go ii transmitters in SPLIT mode and plugged in the Go ii receiver into one XLR input on a Zoom F6, only 1 channel would record. When I switched back to the original cheaper VXLR the Zoom F6 did split the audio channels. Have you tried this on your F6?
I have not tried this and it sounds like it's not how it should work since XLR is a mono signal and not stereo.
Well done, thanks. Can you use the VXLR + with a system that does not have phantom power but only Plug In Power? I work mostly with Plug In Power but sometimes with a 48V system. So instead of purchasing 2 different adapters, is it possible to use the VXLR + only? Cheers!
I am not 100% sure, it could work… but the description on the website of rode says: "The VXLR+ is a 3.5mm female TRS socket to male XLR adaptor, which will convert 12-48V Phantom Power down to 3-5V 'Plug in Power'".
But maybe, if you provide PlugIn Power on the port it will just not transform it down and it ends up working 🙈.
@@ChrisSpiegl cheers!
What about if i connect a xlr micro to an 3.5 receiver?
Adapter is required for connecting such basic mics like rode videomicro to Podtrak mini too?
The PodTrack only has XLR inputs so yes, you will need this type of adapter.
For the Rode VideoMicro you will need the VXLR Plus or Pro model.
Once again, I am back here, as I am about order VXLR adaptor - I have go Rode Go la, Rode Go Wireless and Zoom H5, I wish to use XLR connection also. So which one I should buy to solve all issues - VXLR-Pro ? or all of them for different microphones.
If you want a solution that can just do everything, I'd just purchase the VXLR Pro a couple times.
Then you are on the safe side.
Sir, my salutations to both of you. Firstly your video is unnecessary long. I am a electronics engineer. The real difference between VXLR+ and pro is that the pro is true balanced. But questionable. Since I am using unbalanced mic, why would I want that hundreds of feet away. Rode in my opinion unnecessary made the pro. Capt Suresh Sharma just buy zxlr+. Cheers.
@@gogiaudios Thanks for your insights. The reason to put an Unbalanced mic so far away is because you have it and the mic can grow with you. And there is not really any reason to prevent you from getting a long XLR cable and then putting the VXLR Pro right there with the mic (having the unbalanced part be as short as possible).
@@ChrisSpiegl absolutely correct
Sehr schönes Ambiente! Das lässt die Präsentation tatsächlich so wirken, als würdest du es mir persönlich am Tisch gegenüber erklären. Top!👍
Vielen Dank, das freut mich sehr dass es so rüber kommt. Ich experimentiere ein wenig immer wieder mal was anders. Mit zwei Kameras lässt sich das aber viel besser verwirklichen als vorher.
Thank you for your review. I tried to connect a Rode Lavalier Go with a zoom H8 recorder using the VXLR adapter (the cheap one without power) and it did not work. Any suggestions?
The VXLR (standard, non pro, non plus) version is not compatible with things like the Røde Lavalier Go. You will need the VXLR Plus or Pro and activate Phantom Power on the XLR port of the H8.
Do not use the VXLR + Phantom Power + Lavalier GO! I have heard people have destroyed their microphones doing this.
Had the similar problem till I realized your lav mic needs a TRS adapter instead of TRRS, so I bought a TRRS to TRS to fix, not sure how that's going to affect the sound quality
good day, can i use vxlr pro. to connect my rode wireless go to mixer?
Yes you can!
So what happens if you use the standard VXLR with something like the Rode GO and forget to turn off phantom power on your recorder? Will it damage your device? I got the standard version becuase I do not need plug-in power for my Rode Go, but I wonder if I should be using the VLXR+ for protection in case I forget to turn off phantom power on my Zoom F6.
I have read a couple of stories of people who damaged their mic because of this (leaving on Phantom Power and plugging in a VXLR + Lavalier or similar). So I would either be super careful, or get the Pro/Plus version.
Which of these would you suggest for the Rodelink Filmmaker Kit?
You could just use the Røde VXLR with the Filmmaker Kit.
If it gives you interferences or such things I'd upgrade to the Plus.
Great video! Very understandable. Also it is ok to use the vxlr adapter on a Mix 8 mixer?
It all depends on which mic you want to connect. If it's powered (plug in power) or if the mic has it's own power.
I need to match up with TS mono connectors from a cheap wireless set. To use them I think I need yet another adapter. NOT having a good time with this, but your mini-seminar did provide a good refresher on what a balanced signal is.
Also, I read the comments, and even though nothing is balanced in the chain, and the shielding will only work if it's grounded on both ends - I hadn't considered using an XLR cable on the deck/recorder end. That may still be better than using a 3.5mm stereo extension.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Glad you could take something from it 👍.
Can the Røde Video Micro even deliver a balanced signal if I were to plug a TRRS cable into it? I seem to remember it shipping with a TRS cable only.
I'm a newbie out to learn all this sound stuff ;)
The mic does not need to provide a balanced signal. That is why the XLR adapter should be as close to the mic as possible. From there the signal is then turned into a Balanced XLR signal and can be delivered over XLR to your audio recorder of choice.
Can I use the $9 dollar adapter since my rode mic pro has its own battery,, I just need a conector to my zoom f3, just want to make sure that my mic,.won't get destroy
Please I need help on this matter, TIA.
Yes, if you can turn in the mic manually you can use the RØDE VXLR adapter.
@@ChrisSpiegl thank you very much !!!!!
RUclips is degenerating into a horrible greedy entity. Thank goodness for excellent RUclipsrs like you who still offer some public interest quality and make it worthwhile usisng it. It doesnt have to be this way RUclips. Great work.
Thank you for your feedback and I am glad this video was helpful for you.
May I ask what you mean with the "Greedy Entity"? What are you not liking?
@@ChrisSpiegl RUclips is packing the platform with adverts to denegrate the experience in order to pressure people into paying for a subscription. They get their content for free from brilliant folk like you and already make a good profit. Squeezing more out of the platform by making the status quo less enjoyable is I think a greedy and selfish approach.
@@raygodwin68 Do you mean the RUclips Premium subscription? I'd actually argue that people watching ads is more profitable for RUclips (because with the Premium Subscription you get rid of Ads).
I personally use the RUclips Premium subscription and I love it. Great experience, no ads, offline and background video watching on mobile, and some exclusive content. Sounds good to me.
One thing where I think they could improve is the percentage that they take from the ads placed on our channels. But then again, if it wasn't for RUclips there would be thousands if not hundreds of thousand of people without a job (or at least with a less passionate job).
Oh and one more thing: some of the ads that are running on the platform are simply scams. That's bad and it seems getting worse.
@@ChrisSpiegl yes, Premium. The scam ad prevalence is more evidence of the greed I feel. Profit is being put before the welfare of the platform users. They could stop them easily I’m sure if they didn’t prioritise the revenue.
Thank you for this video, thumbs up and I subscribed too! Question please. On my Canon XF400 camcorder that has a top handle with dual XLR inputs, I want to use either my Rode Wireless Go (Version 1) or my Saramonic UWMIC9 wireless lav mic. Both wireless mic systems are battery powered and I want to have either the Rode Wireless Go or the Saramonic UWMIC connect into say Channel 1 of the XLR input going into the Canon XF400 camcorder. Which of the 3 Rode adapters should I use? If I heard you correctly, you are saying I should use the basic VXLR model (the lowest priced one) since my wireless lav mic systems are self-powered...is that correct? I'm currently using the VXLR+ (plus) adapter, will that cause a problem such as interference or strange background noise? Thank you!
You can use any of them. The basic model VXLR is the one with the least electronics and in my tests it introduced the least noise. But you already have the plus, so just use that unless it introduced problems.
@@ChrisSpiegl Actually I have both the basic VXLR and Plus models. I'm going to switch to the basic model because I can hear a tiny bit of scratchy electronic sound in the background when using the Plus model, so hopefully the basic model will fix that. Thanks!
@@caseyonlocation8257 good idea. Testing always wins. 👍
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank you! Do you think I should bother to return the Rode VXLR+ that I recently got from Amazon and get the Pro model instead? It will not be for my Rode Wireless Go into my Canon XF400 camcorder. I'm just wondering if the Pro model adapter might be useful for another application? I have various podcasting gear such as the Rode Rodecaster Pro and the Zoom PodTrak P4 which I make RUclips content about. I'm wondering if I might ever need the Pro version of the adapter? I mostly use XLR type microphones for podcasting audio gear, as well as various wireless lav mic systems for my various Canon DSLR and camcorder gear.
@@caseyonlocation8257 After comparing these adapters I would pretty much tell people to go with the VXLR or the Pro and not bother with the Plus (unless it's a decision made by finances and you need the plugin power).
The Pro simply has all the options available Phantom Power to Plug In power transformer + balanced signal transmission and going from TRS to XLR…
So if you want to be versatile go for the Pro and return the Plus.
Important note, just as a reminder: when you use the Pro and you want to use long distances, it is important that the "long cable" is the XLR one (and not a TRS extension cord or stuff like that).
But if you only want to ever use this type of adapter to bring in a TRS based Wireless System, I would just go for the VXLR standard version.
Hi, how would you connect the rode shotgun ntg to the long XLR cable?
Also, can you input TTRS into the zoom with the adaptors? Or does it have to be TRS? Cos the rode ntg mic is ttrs to ttrs
You're talking about the Røde VideoMic NTG: that works by default with these adapters. You'd connect the mic directly (with the short TRRS cable) to the Røde VXLR Pro adapter. Then send it through a long XLR cable to whatever system you need it to go to. The audio recorder or interface has to then also provide Phantom Power!
Have you had a chance to use the Wireless GO2 system with the ZOOM F6 and what adapters did you have to use to make that work?
I have not used the GO2 but the first one. And the VXLR (non plus/pro) is totally fine for that use-case. 🌸
However: When you use the GO2, then the problem is that you can only use a mono signal. If you need to use the stereo split with both mics on their own tracks then you’d have to use a left/right split cable and two VXLR adapters.
One question Chris. By connecting the rx rode GO II to two xlr channels with the vxlr pro adapter to a mixer with single phantom power for all channels, the problems of over powering the Rx are eliminated? . I imagine that if the basic adapter is used it could damage the Rx, or would it not be advisable to use this type of connection with the Phantom activated regardless of the connector? Thanks.
When you are using the VXLR Pro or Plus, then you can safely activate Phantom Power. This will not hurt the microphone. The Røde Wireless Go II does not need Plug In Power, but it's not going to be hurt by it either.
Best example: any camera with a 3.5mm jack provides plug-in power and you can safely use the Wireless Go with those as well 👍.
@@ChrisSpiegl Thank you very much for the answer !! And congratulations for your channel! Happy Sunday!!!
What can you do if you need the main mic cable to be extended but then go into the adapter?
Depending on the length, I would recommend to go with a XLR cable and then a short cable to the mic. If you want to do it the other way around (long TRS cable and directly plug the adapter into the interface / recorder) then I'd go with the VXLR+.
hi there. Many thanks. I do have a RODE PRO PLUS. And I need ZOOM H8. Which one is the best option? Thanks. Ash from Toronto.
Do you mean you have a Ride VideoMic Pro+?
Since you can turn this mic on all the way manually you could just use the VXLR. but if you want to use it with long distance, I’d go with the VXLR Pro.
Qué adaptador VXLR necesito para conectar un Micrófono RODE Wirelees GOII a una consola de audio??? Y si necesito algún cable atenuador para que no se arruine el Mic RODE Wirelees GOII???
You can use the Røde VXLR (basic / standard) version. Then turn off any plugin/phantom-power on the channel you are connecting the Wireless Go II to.
Additionally: if you plan on using both channels of the Wireless Go II separately, then you need two VXLR adapters & a L/R Splitter cable. Because XLR is always mono.
What sort of adepter I would you for my Rode GO that o want to put in my Yamaha mixer
I think that is covered in the video pretty specifically.
With the Ride Wireless Go I would use the RODE VXLR adapter.
Do I understand correctly: you normalized all the noise samples to the same level? I would like to know if there's a noise level difference between the Plus and Pro when you normalize both by using a reference signal and than comparing the noise levels. Or did you test that already? I'd like to know if the Pro version produces more noise since it has more electronics inside.
I usually do always normalize the levels to -16dbfs and then compare. However, I have since found that sometimes the samples I normalized are with speaking parts before or after which kind of muddies the result again because the normalization would then also take those potentially different sections into account. I will probably do these tests better next time (not for these adapters though).
Generally I found them all three to be relatively close together but the one without electronics does have a bit less noise if you don't need it.
The other two where basically indistinguishable to my ears. 🌸
@@ChrisSpiegl Many thanks for the additional details of the comparison.
ZOOM recorders (I have ZOOM H6) can send plug-in power to their XLR inputs, so in this case the simple VXLR will do the job. Am I missing something here?
No, if you'r recorder can change between Phantom and Plug-In power then you would be ok using the Plug-In Power (around 5V) and use the VXLR adapter only.
@@ChrisSpiegl so you can connect a fairly long XLR cable to your zoom recorder, a VXLR adpter in the other end, where you connect your 3.5 mic requireing plug-in power? Say a Rode videomic go 2?
@@tfransson When going long distance it is advised to use the VXLR Pro because it can provide the 3 phasic audio signal (balanced) and thus reduce interference issues and such things.
How would you connect the Rode wireless receiver to a soundboard?
Most dynamic and condenser microphones operate at very low voltages, typically between 1 and 10 millivolts (mV). Therefore, the sound console's XLR input will provide enough voltage to power these microphones without the need for phantom power.
Thanks for the video, so does vxlr pro accept deity d3 trrs? and do i have to turn on phantom power for it?
Hi Syafiq Zailan, I don't have the Deity V-Mic D3 Pro any more so I can't test it; But: the D3 should be able to work with the VXLR Plus or Pro model. This is because you will need the Phantom Power to be converted to Plug In power. The reason being that the D3 Mic needs the Plug In power to actually turn on (this is because of the strange stand by mode).
@@ChrisSpiegl wonderfull.. im going to get one tomorrow and test it myself. thanks again. Subscribed.
@@syafiqzailan I appreciate it. Good luck and happy recording - or streaming ☺️.
Hi Chris! What mic were you using on this video?
Can you connect it to a transmitter so you can plug-in to the mixer or a speaker and transmit music to camera or recorder
What are you trying to achieve here? I'm not quite sure I understand.
@@ChrisSpiegl I’m wedding videographer would I be able to use my rode wireless go with dj mixer to transmit audio directly to the camera using ur adapter to connect it to a mixer
@@davidrofa4875 I have never tested what happens when you send a signal “into” the XLR side. But I’d assume it’d work as you are thinking. Probably I would try to use the VXLR version in that case.
The common rejection mode, i.e the sum of the two signals of an xlr input is done in the recorder. So I really don’t understand what the pro does. The trs signal that is input in into the xlr pro cannot be balanced because there is only one signal. So I don’t understand the advertising of Rode. You can only filter this signal. It might then be sometime closer to a balanced signal but it is not a balanced signal.
After asking CHATGPT, I now understand that the VXLR+ and VXLR are not really transforming a TRS signal input into an XLR signal although they are called adapters. In Rode ‘ s vocabulary an adapter does not transform. These adapters just forward the TRS unbalanced signal onto pin1 and connect pin2 to ground. The signal remains unbalanced. Whereas the Pro feeds pin2 with the inverted TRS signal. The VXLR+ is then ok if you directly connect it to your recorder. Makes sense not to bother creating a real XLR signal for that purpose.
Yes, that's how I understand the adapters, and as far as I remember that's also what I am saying about them in this video. VXLR+ if your cable is short, and you just need plug-in power for your lav. VXLR Pro if you want to run a cable across a long distance and would like the balanced transmission from the adapter to the recorder.