Is Stick Welding Downhill Illegal? | Uphill Versus Downhill
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Somebody told me that welding downhill is illegal. Can you weld downhill? How does it compare to uphill? Will they both pass the bend tests? Watch this episode and find out!
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All those “welders” who say you can’t weld downhill clearly never worked with sheet metal or thin gauge material. Some things you can’t weld up or you will blow threw. It really comes down to what the job calls for.
What codes, most sheet metal welds have no codes, just get the job done
Never said structural. Also I’m aware most sheet metal don’t have codes I currently am in that field. My point was you can weld downhill on certain applications but some welders say you can’t that’s simply false.
Yep, a lot of aluminum sheet work or thin steel sheet just needs to be done downhill, either it’s not possible because of blow-through, or because of distortion.
I work in the fab shop and we MIG downhill because that’s what the schematic calls for. Sometimes two or three passes.
Same here. We do downhill because it’s thin gauge materials
I'm an AWS CWI since December 2013. Whether you weld 'uphill', 'downhilll', your electrode size and selection, all the fitment, root gap criteria, welding gas selection, etc are prescribed in the WPS (Welding Procedure Specification) by the company's / client's welding engineers and metallurgists, after weeks, months, years of weld tests done in labs long before the project ever begins. The only time 'we' decide how we want to make the weld is in our garages at home.
I typically hate to agree with any cwi because they are full of hot air, but you are correct lol.
@@jeepwk6.5L I'm a CWI with 32 years of welding experience under my belt. I'm not one of those CWI' who 'never done it but going to tell you how to do it. I used to hate that, too.
@@sammyayosaaservicesllcbsfa3765 that’s always good to hear
I took part b last Saturday. I’m taking my A and C this Saturday. I’m freaking the fuck out man.
I lost track when he started interpreting his own bend test to his specs 😅
“Top bend”, “cap bend”, “did not break, everything is good”….fuck you acceptance criteria, buy my merch😂
@Sammy Ayo / SAA SERVICES, LLC / B&S Farms I did 7018 downhill for shits and giggles and passed the bend test. How does that make you feel?
YES...My uncle was caught stick welding downhill in his garage by a passing policeman and is now serving a 50 year sentence with no chance of parole. (Also avoid horizontal, it's a gateway weld...)
This should be the top comment. Best close the door to avoid the danger of passing police !
@@jsmcortina I know, I told my uncle that hundreds of times...he responded that that welding technique was a right and not a privilege and that they could have his stinger when they pried it from his cold dead hands...
@rocco_s10 It could happen....just like welding overhead shirtless with 3/4 inch jet rod on aluminum sheets with a half inch gap.
Police have nothing better to do than that crap.
@@arthurrodesiler3109 Sarcasm...it was a joke...
Thats engineering at its finest. Been a welder for over 20 yrs!
I didn’t think i could learn so much in a single video. Nice job 👍🏼
One of the BEST VIDEO'S I've seen.I live up here in Seattle, Wa (use to live in Dallas, Texas and went to a trade school, AMERICAN TRADE INSTITUTE and took up Welding,1980)Moved back to Seattle, Wa and back to more pipe welding,tig,stick,ASME SEC 9,API 1104,AWS D10.9,AWS D1.1,BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BIG THING UP HERE IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST IN THE SHIPYARDS THAT PIPE CAN ONLY BE WELDED IN THE"UPHILL" METHOD.IVE SEEN PIPEFITTERS IN THE SHIPYARDS WELD A-53 PIPE DOWNHILL WITH 6010&7010 ROD MANY OF TIMES ALSO MIG (.035 WIRE ON SCH.80 PIPE) FROM ROOT PASS ALL THE WAY OUT TO CAP., X-RAYED AND PASSED WITH NO PROBLEM.SO,YES PIPE CAN BE WELDED UPHILL ASWELL AS DOWNHILL ASWELL AS ROLLED WHILE WELDING.
Prea mult vorbești. Explică mai mult in timp ce suedezi, in același timp sa se vadă si pe ecran. Cu electrod bazici nu sint mai buni? Vreau sa vad si cu acești elec.
As an old fart who doesn't care for change,I really agree that's it's best to try to master both up and down. Once comfortable with that,try using other hand and maybe standing on your hard side just to challenge yourself a bit more. Keep up the good vids.
from another old fart that had 46 years in the game- you can't be a good welder unless you're proficient using either hand holding the stinger. some situations require using your off hand so practice practice practice.
you can't be a good welder if you can't weld with both hands imvho
@@jwafterours I've seen good welders who can only use one hand and not the other. I've seen good welders who can't use a mirror to weld, also seen good welders that can only stick weld or using only one or two processes. I've seen great fitters who are good welders,I've seen good welders who can fit. I've seen old welders who are rough as hell and young people who are lazy but are good welders. This trade hires them all.
@@derekcollins1972 what happens when you're in a tight place and you have to weld a steam line and you can't use your "good hand"? it's so tight the helper has to hand you rods. you're right this trade hires them all but only the good ones excell and are the last man standing when layoff time comes. that and seniority lol
@@jwafterours Exactly. You are right. The more you can do,the more opportunities there are for you for sure.
This guy is a great teacher. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the content.
i'm retired 3 years but can't stay away from the welding. salute to a very talented young guy sharing his knowledge. btw, that's you,keep it up and stay strong and safe!
retired from welding? im trying to get into it, any advice your willing to share?i start UtI in september
@@basicbiker4775 first learn the basics at night at the local community college the haunt all the local unions like tinknockers,ironworkers ect. they have excellent training programs and will pay you also. if you're young enough job corps is another was to get your foot in the door. good luck!
Hi bud I'm a retired pipe welder in England and it's nice to see up close what goes on when welding,and I have watched some proper crap on here but it's a pleasure to watch a fellow welder who can weld cheers yours konrad
Nice work i appreciate the videos . I welded in a power plant but i had a friend who had welded pipe line before he came to power plant and he bailed us out a few times on some things . He was good to me and i appreciated all he showed me how to do . Thanks again
Your right I know Pipe Fitter welders are some of the best welders there is.
Thank you for making movies that help many people go to work and achieve their goals
I spy SAM! 😸
Another great video from South Coast. I like this video and and channel because it's purely educational! Sometimes they bring Spanish speakers, women, and specialists not to only show how diverse the trade is, but also reach out to the whole world. Welding truly is a passion, and I'm grateful to having this kind of content on RUclips. Not everyone has the financial resources to go to big schools like Tulsa, but I feel we still get that great quality instruction from teachers like Mr. Medrano!
Lastly, I dig the beat at the end. It makes what I'm looking at not feel all Southern and country lol
I like your videos
I'm semi retired, working two, maybe three days a week.
Everyone agrees, it's a case of practice, practice, practice;
that being said, I had bin out of the game for some time, and just like in athletics, you tend to loose that "edge"
if you aren't doin' it every day.
Recently, I ended up doing some work for a client that I had done a lot of work for in the 80's
back then, I was welding(outdoors, stick) ten hours a day, six days a week
I was amazed at how much better ALL my welds were back then,
better than I do today!
Vert up; down, etc. all perfect, no flux inclusions
It was because I was doin' it all day, everyday.
Same as playing a musical instrument.
Use it or lose it.
I have the same problem, especially tig aluminum
We run multiple test up hill and especially down hill and we don't need another hand to control the remote, we set the temp and run the the test and pass it.
Hi mate,thanx for your awesome video.im a boilermaker from old school..even when I use to MIG weld I would do down hand and vertical ups.As I seen with your style you nailed it as it's all about the preparation.Root gaps and amps and techniques.I weld what I'm comfortable with and have past every destructive and non destructive test.
And on every piece of membrane on a boiler the welding inspector better not see any uphill verts or they'll get your money
Did an outstanding job. I'm Retired now but wish I had a machine like that when I was an apprentice.
you Sir know what you are doing and i can tell you have the experience, a good eye and a steady hand as well
This is the video right here officer
dats money duuuuuude! awesome job Abraham!
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Thanks homie!!
I really enjoyed this video. Your process would make the prefect weld test because it covers both up and down with a variation of rods. Pass this test and you can pipe weld anywhere.
you are a great welder, with impressive technique.
I had a freind at work who could tell you about the metal he was going to weld, what rods he was using, and why. This kid kinda reminds me of him.
Great job Ab! Learned a few things here. Always thought if you lived above the equator you weld up, living below equator you weld down...lol...sort of like the way a toilet swirls differently above or below the equator....lol...
Does the toilet really swirl different down there?
Astonished to see an American using a grinder with the guard on! One of the smarter guys.
Years ago, I witnessed an Spanish welder at work who was a pipeline veteran all over the world welding up a 10" T pipe joint.
He had a stick welder in each hand welding 2 joints uphill simultaneously.
Never seen anyone do that before or since, I was truly amazed. The weld quality was excellent as well.
I hope he was getting paid double $
Last I knew, get certified as a high pressure pipeline welder, you had to be able to pass a stress test on an overhead 8" steel high pressure pipe hanging overhead which requires both up and down hill and pushing and pulling a weld.
not sure about that .pressure vessels should be up hand, pipelines can be down hand , Oil Tanks should be up hand ( ASME standard)but most welders try to do down hand , ASME pipe weld test is mostly up hill,
My father was a welder but he could also do everything else, shear, layout, braking, weld and polish. He learned the trade at East New York Vocational High School. He started working in the late 1940s. In the beginning he welded the custom electrical panels they used in New York Buildings. When I was a teen he was working in custom kitchen equipment. Later he got certification to weld the piping in nuclear power plants. hen we first moved to Florida he was relining the insides of cement trucks. That was probably the nastiest job he ever had.
I worked with him as a helper before I was drafted. We'd go out and weld new ends on dish tables when a dish washing machine was being replaced. That meant Sunday night in the big hotels because that was the only time the kitchens were closed. He had a very good reputation and he was always getting calls from people wanting to hire him. He could design a kitchen and handle everything necessary. He even did synagogues with all the kosher requirements.
It's too bad he never saw videos lie this one. That was one fancy welding machine. All he had to work with was a 90 Amp Lincoln welding machine. His rod work looked liked he'd used a Heliarc machine. I never had to beat something straight after he finished. There was another welder who was known or his speed. He'd weld two pieces into a 90 degree dish table with clamps everywhere on it. When he was done I'd take all the clamps off and the table was warped from the high heat used. Then I'd beat it to straighten it out.
This instructor is a very good welder. That was a very pretty weld he did on the pipe. It made me think of my father.
I have to ask, are there special Kosher welding rods?
Great video Weldtube brothers!
Abraham makin it look easy 💯
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Keeping the puddle looking like perfect egg shape it will come out slick like snail snot everytime hoss
That big blue 8010 arc looked very crispy 😍😍😍
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I was taught either way can work. Going down hill depends on if you can "outrun" your pool so thockness and rod determines what you can do.
Great job pal iv worked on the 36inch gas main in the UK 2 welders 2assistans one down hill one up hill same time and the assistants cleaning up the welds and temp as we go then water and X-ray tests
30 years at Columbia Gas Trans. we also had to pass a heavy wall for Compressor Storage Stations and Hot Tap for Stopple/Mueller taps on live lines.
I have heard vertical down called stovepipe method' 5 stars plus bonus star for having a hand shield on your grinder 🤘
Respect that confidence son ! 💪🏻
I never saw any haters weld as good as they talk shit. NO matter what shop I weld at or what job im on; the people that talk tons of shit simply don't improve. The people that are humble and WORK hard, keep getting better.
You ain't going to weld tubes in a boiler downhill. Welded for over 40 years in the boilermakers union. But pipeliners weld downhill like you said.
Boliermaking interest me. I love going uphill so if boilermakers weld up then im all for it!
I go to my first welding job this Monday wish me luck weldtube fam super nervous and excited to see where welding will take me
Great job and very well explained. Keep the videos coming AB.
Lot to know !!!! GREAT video.Very impressed with your knowledge and skill.Sadly,I am not allowed to weld anymore due to heart device...really miss getting to build stuff !!!!!!
Proffesional and VERY good quality Honor to whom it deserves . You are Great, hopefully You stay healthy and weld for long time to come. Our country need people like You. Build and make it last. Clean Consciousness to the end. whatever the requirements are. Thank You very much for uploading Your video
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from a coded welder of 45 years to another ( my specialty is TIG) beautiful welding mate
That's what I like about the Lincoln 305 welder you don't need a helper to control the heat on downhill pipe the machine automatically adjust itself
KEEP ROCKING BROTHER THIS IS HOW TO MAKE MONEY ONLY DOWN SOUTH!!! THANKS TOP GUN KEEP UP THE GRATE WORK!!!!!!!$$$$
I’m from Aus. And people from my country who say you can’t weld down hill aren’t pipe welders because yes we run downhill rods here in Aus on pipe lines
dont know where your work in some back yard shop not in australia
3rd time watching this. Never gets old dog! Thank you!
The whole squad is a beast like a Voltron Weld Messiah.
Best welding channel on the Tubes, by far.
I wish I had that remote when I was pipe welding. That makes it so much easier. I could never remember my weld settings
That is a sweet feature.
You got way better weld training than I received
in the netherlands ,we used to have these remotes with a knob in our own hand, I'm old now ,if i can do it now,
good explaining, very useful to correct crimp
Yes, i used to have one of those remotes on a kempi..it was a small tube with a control on the top..It was in the 1980s.
Camera guy does a great job, shows more than some see when they weld.
yah and with a LOT of bare skin showing, much kudos to camera dudes! hopefully they didn't get too much arc flash/burns lol
“ And if they dont *****.” made me laugh so hard😂
Its really about what direction the WPS calls for.
You're not always given a wps or even a standard. People that don't weld in shops all day run into the problem of thinking for themselves
@@ceazure7 i can only really tell you what my expierence is as a Union Pipefitter/Steamfitter. Im not ever given a WPS in the field, but every weld is inspected atleast visually by a weld inspector. That weld inspector has a WPS and will tell you what he wants to see. What the WPS and the code calls for.
There really shouldn't be any weld done where saftey is considered without a procedure.
If your out there guessing, shame on you, if its expierence great, you should know how to get the procedure..
I rarely ever weld in a shop! Chainfalls, grinders and torches. I make my own dogs and pushpulls, i never see alignment clamps!
@@jamieruggiero well I can also only speak from my experience as a piledriver. We also make our own dogs we deal with high-low and 1/2" gaps all day long. However, if I have to root a 3' vertical with a downhill pass to fill a gap without eating my bevels that's what I'm going to do. The wps doesn't call for a downhill root wherever that wps may be but that's what I'm gonna do to make it work and pass my inspections. My point is, sometimes you have to add aittle finesse. Your not wrong about the wps that's not what I'm saying. Wps are there for a reason all I'm saying is the new dudes in the industry should be coached to learn from their experiences not following a sheet of paper someone wrote that has never welded a day in their life.
@@ceazure7 i can't disagree with you. Im also a weld instructor and a CWI so i lean towards the do as i say not as i do.
When the need is there fix it and move on.
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Great content and and great tutorial, I appreciate the explanation as you weld. Thanks
I have used welding electrode rods in the past I called Fleet rods which are used for rooting pipe .which I would have the stinger on the minus and earth on the positive which the weld freezes quicker and the hot pass fill and cap swap them back over and used low hydrogen rods for that.
Each company should have a welding procedure and it will tell you up hill or down hill and which rods to use and the diameter of the rod. It may be 1/8” for the bead and 5/32 for hot pass and what size to use for fill and cap. Usually it depends on pipe size and diameter which rod you use. The procedure will state the gap and lands and voltage and travel speed.
Section ix qw-253, 255, 256, qw-405.3 the change from up to down is not an essential variable to the wps.. you can either chose to add it to the wps or not..
Qw-352,355,256. Welder qualification.. the change from up to down is an essential variable.. soo as long as the wps allows it (or is revised to include it) and the welder is tested in that process up and down.. its not illegal..
I thought the "1" in 6010, 7018, and even 8010 means it can weld all positions including vertical up and vertical down. I'm very new to welding, so are you talking more about the practicality of it?
all positions can mean vertical in general and not specify up or down. you need to do extra research into the rod characteristics for that extra information. eg 7018 shouldn't be used downhill due to the fluid slag profile meaning it will run down faster than you travel.
EXCELLENT VIDEO! GREAT WELDER!
I removed a section of pipe done in 1933,it looked terrible,mostly spatter,rod was ancient,welding machines were just giant old generators,I cut coupons,bent them,they lost a 1/16th from erosion,they were done downhill,well they still passed after 50 yrs.of being in use at standard oil ,the inside top gets the most erosion if pipes arnt actually pressurized,they can have an air space,wish I would have had that machine,the sa250 with remote made thousands of welds.
Ab that hood is flames bro that matte looks killer🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪
When I started welding pipe it was downhill.
Then they went to 7018 and pretty much dumped 6010 red rod. The gray 6010 has more nickel in it to go hand in hand with 7018.
Good info. I always wondered what made the difference in rod coloration.
If you’re a welder then you can do both when asked to do so and understand that they are a procedure that has a purpose but downhill isn't allowed on most sites in he UK
That remote is awesome!! I get so flustered because there's so much to learn in this trade. I only have my 3G SMAW certificate. so far and very little experience. I've been a machinist almost my whole adult life, but I took an adult welding program at night a couple years ago because I've always been interested in welding. I wish I could go back in time and take welding as a vocation in h.s.
In highschool many years ago I was learning to be a machinist as my vocation. I asked my instructor to teach me how to weld and he wanted to know why I wanted to weld. I told him, in case I have to. I'm glad he started me out.
I've seen welding videos from the pipeline field showing two welders working in tandem. One starting from up top going downhill, while his partner starts on the bottom working uphill.
You are mistaken the guy on the bottom was still going downhill you don’t do both they do this so the pipe doesn’t pull
Really well explained Abraham!
As long as you have a WPS to support downhill welding, and can pass the welder qual downhill, you qualify to "legally" weld downhill. Some codes allow you to qualify welders in uphill or downhill even if the procedure was taken uphill...
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Depends on the code. If the code says you can, do it. If not then get to it and make sure that weld passes inspection.
very nice. having been cert. in asme ix did not know the down hill was allowed. but as you said it is all about which code you use. thanx for the great video. 😁👍
ASME IX qualified procedures usually run roots downhill unless you are on a positioner.
@@geoffmooregm i was certified 6g, i remember using uphill ob both sides starting from the 6'oclock position and going to 12... but that was a long while ago, ill have to look at my certs to refresh my memory.
@@madcapmagician6018 using SMAW or GTAW?
@@geoffmooregm smaw
When I did my testing ASME was all uphill. It’s kinda odd too. Staybolys are all one weld without stopping, on a horizontal sheet that impossible to do
You are a good welder because you follow all, the steps to weld pipe, and the correct shape of the positions for welding and as And in the way that the welding pentra when you anchor
I lasted 27 years of welder, of structures, assemblies, of Of the same sometimes you must weld with both hands, when, you are in the assemblies of structures, cordial greetings atte Jesús Gómez torreón coahuila México.
Uphill or downhill. It's all allowed within the weld procedure you come across
Yep. Totally.
Man what I wouldn't have given for that remote when I worked in the shipyard. Inverters could be several hundred feet away. And could require a 5 minute walk/ crawl through multiple spaces/decks to access.
But absolutely correct. It absolutely depends on what regulations you have to follow. But it's a technique that is good to know regardless.
Was one of the most failed tests. Usually due to lack of fusion.
And like all techniques, practice, practice, practice..
Great video👍👍
That welder you used is crazy cool.
All about codes and procedures and what you're running for rod. I've never understood the controversy
p-5 root IS downhill
@@michaellange6598 5P you mean? AKA 6010. It can be run either direction. Depends on the procedure. Where I'm from the procedure is 6010 root, 7018 fill/cap all uphill on carbon pipe. Pipeliner's are the only ones who get to do downhill.
@@michaellange6598 OR uphill. Just got to follow procedure, end of👍
Depends on the rod - some rods aren’t suitable for downhill, fluid weld pool, excessive deposit etc - select the correct rod and you can weld downhill all day long
Mainly 7018 due to its thick very fluid flux. It tends to outrun the weld puddle unless you run it too cold.
I’m very impressed good job Man
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Depends on what it is for and the welding procedures your company wants you to do. If your company says weld uphill then that's what you do. They will fire you for not following weld procedure
You can weld 7018 down hill I work offshore and I weld it down hill everyday
You can if you qualify the procedure and welder.
hell thats how i run it didnt know it was supposed to be run uphill haha triwd runnin uphill once disnt do so well haha
Abraham una pregunta . El pase de Raíz hacia abajo . El electrodo lo colocas en el negativo O positivo . Con electrodo. 6010 - 1/8”
quizas en negativo por la gravedad para no generar un exceso de penetracion!
You are bad ass.
Thank you, I learn a lot from you.
Great teacher.
Loves from the Philippines, just start welding lessons, need morr practice but the materials are scarce and the available are shared with 40 students into 4 inverters. P. S can you showcase welding paterns, technique, what to do, what not to do, that teary eyes remedies... Etc
Agreed to a certain extent but with a small correction it depends on the construction code and the customers specifications, we regularly weld ASME B31.8 facilities following ASME Section IX welding procedures welding 6010/8010 downhill.... if the procedure proves your choice of filler metal and direction can achieve good chemical and mechanical properties along with the customer’s approval you may certainly use downhill in a lot of situations.....certain codes such as ASME Section VIII Divison 1 used for pressure vessels may restrict you from using downhill for construction of these products and require low hydrogen with tend to be uphill rods.
Do you really think these youtubers think about chemical or mechanical properties or codes? They probably never use codes for anything they do, or why you need codes.
@@ebogar42 these youtubers are at a welding school dude, they definitely need to be in the know about everything you’ve mentioned. As well as they bring in people from outside the school welding in the field who also need to be in the know about codes and procedures... so yes they do know codes and procedures... such an uneducated comment
@@quinnhowlett697 Like I said, they never do anything by code so probably never even think about it. I'm in welding school too, and I don't think about that shit. Your comment is what's ignorant. I have three more classes until I have an associates degree with emphasis in welding, and I'm not even cocky enough to think I know it all. I don't. I've never welded anything with codes. I would have probably fucked up too. It's more to it than welding two pieces of metal together.
@@ebogar42 they don’t need to mention any codes because there’s so many codes and procedures to even fit in 1 video... but they do need to be in the know, especially being a welding school. These guys aren’t just RUclipsrs. Lmao I know it’s more than just putting two pieces of metal together, I’ve been through metallurgy classes in trade school, I’m a union Boilermaker welder. These guys definitely do think about codes and chemical properties and shit but they don’t need to say anything about them because there’s so much to talk about just for one video
@@quinnhowlett697 Well, this weld looks like shit. They should keep practicing or at least know what they're doing and talking about before posting the video. I'm not even sure what kind of bead he was trying to do there, but it looks awful.
you are a really good teacher. and you guys make great videos
In the UK we was only taught uphill pipe
If the position designating number on Rod is “1” that means it so designed for welding in all positions
I cannot speak for every process or wps, but I always tested ASME 6G pipe which also covered me for all structural on the job. 6G is the joint at a 45, all welds Uphill regardless of stick, tig, or mig. I have never even Tried to weld downhill because I've never seen a WPS or worked on a project that called for it. In school, and at most jobs we were taught that downhill greatly increased the risk of porosity or inclusion because you're "walking over your slag".
Downhill on pioeline in Canada. Uphand in refineries
Enjoyed watching.Your very talented
One thing I learned in school going downhill on pipe was to not underestimate how hot you need to be, hot and fast for the root.
In Australia Up is the main go, Must say mate your technique looks good.......
Not on gas pipelines its not. Poms when they visited did a dolly mix vertical up low hy on the bead but the rest was all downhill with cellulose
Awesome video it answered alot of questions
Hey bud can you do a video on 6g downhill , like 6 inch schedule 80 preferably. That’s what I’m working on in school I’m advancing with pipe I got a job lined up for air and gas welding . If u could break down the lower quarter of the pipe and how u position ur body for it , especially, that would be awesome, thanks. Really getting a lot out of your channel .
It comes down to the codes the job calls for and the company u r working for
i am a fitter in Canada proud member of UA and just different ways to say the same thing we have "down hand and up hand" also it depends on the company and their procedure. most of the fails i have seen it is about the root that fails or welder does not follow company procedure. ps I give you get 3 heat adjustment 1 up 1 down and one last one then i will tell you to learn to weld lmao. i like you safety, most of the welding on youtube you see the person is in a tee shirt and no gloves.
In welded storage tanks vertical seam joints they prefers downhill stick welding.
Our asme proceedure is for downhill 6010 root and fill with 7018 uphill
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Well That answers that.
Much Appreciated !