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  • The 4 Champions of Chaos are absolute beasts in their own right, but which one is actually the most powerful?
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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  7 месяцев назад +273

    No matter who wins this, we can all agree it would be a hell of a thing to watch
    As a side note, I am still figuring out the settings and set up for the new microphone and lighting and would love some feedback
    For example - is the right side of my body overexposed? Does the Mic sound a bit tinny and boxy? Or am I just overthinking it

    • @Putuch6
      @Putuch6 7 месяцев назад +6

      It does a bit boxy indeed but still better than getting that noise reduction too far, in the past I used to struggle with voice on your vids in public spaces on my headphones.

    • @JohnJohn-r4l
      @JohnJohn-r4l 7 месяцев назад +2

      get it? hell?! like, the warp? like, warp god?! like, CHAOS GOD?! LIKE, CHAOS GODS GREATEST CHAMPIONS VS EACH OTHER?!!??!
      (im going fucking insane and I dont know if it feels good or bad)

    • @Coalition2298qy.
      @Coalition2298qy. 7 месяцев назад +4

      Video idea what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a God

    • @szymonkalinski3014
      @szymonkalinski3014 7 месяцев назад +1

      I like Lucius the Eternal and it will be funny if he somehow return to action and sodomise Kharn or other Chaos champion.

    • @irishmerit
      @irishmerit 7 месяцев назад +5

      But more light on your left... Need to even it out a bit. BTW long time fan from Las Vegas. Keep up the great work you Aussie Dingus

  • @AndrewPeverells
    @AndrewPeverells 7 месяцев назад +1378

    Kharn: killed but resurrected by Khorne
    Lucius: killed multiple times but resurrected by Slaanesh
    Typhus: killed but resurrected by Nurgle
    Ahriman: laughs in over-nerdiness

    • @koolunit
      @koolunit 7 месяцев назад +160

      Ahriman just makes the Rubrics emphatically enact his death:
      'Scream in terror for me ruuuubriiiiccs!'

    • @alexandermackie7621
      @alexandermackie7621 7 месяцев назад +75

      But does he have his library card?@@koolunit

    • @koolunit
      @koolunit 7 месяцев назад +13

      @@alexandermackie7621 bro yes! Hope he doesnt get in after all this time, with Magnus being there with Karstodes..

    • @alexandermackie7621
      @alexandermackie7621 7 месяцев назад +5

      Same, same. Here's to hoping that 'grot in a bag' of a god manages to keep him out for longer.@@koolunit

    • @GoDSkRiLLa69
      @GoDSkRiLLa69 7 месяцев назад

      It's been revoked for obvious reasons@@alexandermackie7621

  • @fionn2220
    @fionn2220 7 месяцев назад +293

    "Kharn was hitting Abaddons sword so hard that the faces on the blade morphed into grimaces of pain, due to the daemon within the sword being hurt by the blows."
    Considering the daemon in Abaddons sword nearly killed the Emperor that is actually ridiculous.

  • @christiancowles9436
    @christiancowles9436 7 месяцев назад +247

    I just noticed that Ahriman is the only one without a specific overpowered buff from their patron, and I think the only one who has never needed to be revived by their patron.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 7 месяцев назад +55

      He is just overpowered on his own cause he is actually smart

    • @claytonthegrubkiller6430
      @claytonthegrubkiller6430 7 месяцев назад +51

      Tbf he gets into the least amount of fights and he has the best skills to be able to just escape them, if any of the other 3 are overwhelmed they don't have much of an option besides to keep fighting

    • @shadowborn1456
      @shadowborn1456 4 месяца назад +4

      my knowledge is my power
      Ahzek Ahriman

  • @arionofotherworld
    @arionofotherworld 7 месяцев назад +310

    Kharn and Ahriman are my favourites, they just seem more likeable than the other two.

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 7 месяцев назад +35

      Kharn won’t brutalize you, Ahriman will just use you, hopefully you survive but at the end of the day he doesn’t really give a shit.

    • @deevan1415
      @deevan1415 7 месяцев назад +8

      Helluva guy that Kharn!

    • @thedyingmeme6
      @thedyingmeme6 7 месяцев назад +42

      Ahriman's that one 'distinguished' uncle who owns a shit ton of property
      Kharns' the fun uncle who lets you build DIY firweorks then explode them

    • @rustkarl
      @rustkarl 7 месяцев назад +26

      The other two went out of their way to be right dickheads,
      Khârn and Ahriman kind of lost themselves to it over time and desperation.

    • @GoatyBoatyBH414
      @GoatyBoatyBH414 7 месяцев назад +11

      @Phendranaguardian Fabius submitting to Slaanesh is improbable as he is a man of science. If only they had gone with someone like Julius Kaesoron Or Eidolon from the get go.

  • @LRodz279
    @LRodz279 7 месяцев назад +652

    I love the fact that the traitor Primarchs aren’t even the actual champions of the chaos gods

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest 7 месяцев назад +113

      😂 they are the big daddy tools that get unleashed ...but the champions the most entertaining, or in alignment with their deity. XD Slaanesh might want a do over tho, because Lucius is a punk compared to the rest.

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 7 месяцев назад +38

      As the man says, what’s the use of a primarch as a champion if they can’t be in the mortal realm at all times. Gotta be there to be used lol
      Edit: though now they’re part of the greater game between themes and ideas so…eh I’m sure to them it’s the same thing on a different scale

    • @lokensicarius9347
      @lokensicarius9347 7 месяцев назад +32

      @@TheFatalcrest He's trying but fabulous Bile keeps send her/he/it a restraining order

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest 7 месяцев назад +21

      @@lokensicarius9347 xD just constantly left on read and wonders if Fabius forgot to save their phone number

    • @NastyFool7
      @NastyFool7 7 месяцев назад

      They can't be right, because they're not mortals? Most alive traitor primarchs are also demon princes- who are not mortal

  • @bodricthered
    @bodricthered 7 месяцев назад +207

    Ahriman. By a huge massive stinking great mile, the rest are combat hardcore but he's able to do mindganks on them from a thousand miles away before they even see it coming, he's able to make them think they won and turn them into his puppets...

    • @littlejohn8435
      @littlejohn8435 7 месяцев назад +40

      Ahriman would win but not without Tzeentch giving him the greatest humiliation of his life: Tzeentch helping him.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 7 месяцев назад +18

      Kharn is immune to magic
      Ahriman has a Bolt Pistol

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 7 месяцев назад +34

      @@christiandauz3742I’m not sure if he’s totally immune or just highly resistant, but I mean, if you throw a rock at the speed of light with magic, that’s still under the effects of real world physics lol not like if you just hit them with magic

    • @Arghishable
      @Arghishable 7 месяцев назад +21

      ​@@christiandauz3742
      He's not fully immune to psychic attacks, it's just he's very resilient / nullify a lot of lower tier psykers power when they are targetting him specifically. It's not an aura like the blanks, it doesn't affect terrain, allies or anything beside his body and mind
      This means 2 things :
      1) With enough raw power, his protection can be of no effect / reduced effect.
      Even if you don't agree with this, if you can argue Kharn is Khorn favorite and is protected against all psykers, I can argue Ahriman is Tzeentch favorite and so can be so powerfull he can match Kharn protection to a degree where it's not immunity anymore
      Kharn is not a blank, his psychic protection is by nature psychic too (i.e granted by a psychic entity from the immaterium). His soul still has a trace in the Warp, he's stil vulnerable to psychics
      2) With telekinesis, Ahriman can throw anything at Kharn and do substantial damages ; Ahriman can also protect himself indefinitely since Khorn blessing only protects Kharn from psychic attacks directed at him ; finally he can alter terrain around Kharn
      Now, if Ahriman or Kharn would win in a fight, I don't know. But it certainly is not as simple as plain magic immunity rendring Ahriman (or any other psyker) powerless, just much less of a threat even on a high power level psyker

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered 7 месяцев назад +10

      Khan is immune to magic, Ahriman sees him coming four days early and plants a nuke, or blows the airlock into the void, or summons a thousand warp daemons, or just walks out of eyeline, etcetc.... Brains beat brown.

  • @izstan
    @izstan 7 месяцев назад +108

    Kharn, Typhus & Lucius are all killing machines in their own right, but against Ahriman, they'd be bringing knives to a nuclear warhead fight. The only way Ahriman loses is if he's somehow forced into melee combat.

    • @dr.stronk9857
      @dr.stronk9857 7 месяцев назад +31

      Yeah Ahriman is crazy op, I remember a story of a sorcerer coming after Ahriman and when he finally gets to him Ahriman just thanos snaps him and moves on. Scary.

    • @louisnall3102
      @louisnall3102 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@dr.stronk9857that was Amon, correct?

    • @crimsonconquestcustoms2584
      @crimsonconquestcustoms2584 6 месяцев назад

      Isn't Kharn immune to phykers?

    • @Fast85FoxGT
      @Fast85FoxGT 6 месяцев назад

      ​Or when Amon sent 2 sorcerers to bring Ahriman to him when he was hiding with some loose warband chais group under a different name and whne the other Tson's find him he just bodies the entire room to escape it. Ahriman is badass. ​@@dr.stronk9857

    • @noplease2608
      @noplease2608 4 месяца назад +3

      @@louisnall3102 No I think he is referring to tolbek, ahriman literally just steps on his chest and thanos snaps him out of existence while doing it to everyone else in the room other than maroth who he mind fucks in the background. Ahriman had "somewhat" a hard time fighting amon, but considering ahriman was literally wearing nothing but a robe while fighting amon who was in full power armor I guess technically yea he snapped him out of existence as well.

  • @erathorsmash6941
    @erathorsmash6941 7 месяцев назад +195

    Hey Majorkill, I think a vid on the different type of chaos corrupted space marines would be cool. (Noise marines, Khorne berserkers, Plague marines etc). Maybe a similar "which is the most powerful" style video?
    Keep up the great content!

    • @glenarthur9545
      @glenarthur9545 7 месяцев назад +4

      YES PLEASE

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 7 месяцев назад +5

      Noise Marines would have an edge - how are you supposed to dodge or block constant waves of destructive sound?

    • @erathorsmash6941
      @erathorsmash6941 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@indrickboreale7381 I feel similar about plague marines. Bits I've read about regular humans dealing with them are completely horrifying, just a massive aura of miasma that makes you retch and feel like you're bleeding from every orifice.
      But I think noise marines are also horrifying

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 7 месяцев назад +3

      Noise marines because things must always be loud. The song is eternal and everything is part of the song

    • @A407RAC
      @A407RAC 7 месяцев назад

      Have you read the Gaunt series, perchance?@@erathorsmash6941

  • @kelakogreenaddict1888
    @kelakogreenaddict1888 7 месяцев назад +66

    one funny ahriman feat is that he outsmarted belakor when belakor tried to take a thousand son working for ahriman away

    • @nowanimportant8887
      @nowanimportant8887 2 месяца назад

      How'd he manage that?

    • @kelakogreenaddict1888
      @kelakogreenaddict1888 2 месяца назад +1

      @@nowanimportant8887 in “Ahriman: the first Prince” when be’lakor was gonna take the thousand son (Ctesias) away- we see this conversation in a mental space, so not in the physical world. Ahriman enters the conversation and tries to stop it, Be’lakor, knowing how important ahriman is, tries to persuade him to join forces, and give allegiance to Be’lakor- he does this through various visions and sophistry. Meanwhile Ahriman and quite a few other thousand sons are doing a ritual in the physical world to basically trap Be’lakor using Ctesias as an anchor. Ahriman then says to let Ctesias go, leave us alone and answer a question. Be’lakor begrudgingly agrees, as ahriman could, with the help of the other sorcerers there and dire cost to all involved, bind be'lakor to ctesias and trap him.

    • @nowanimportant8887
      @nowanimportant8887 2 месяца назад +1

      @@kelakogreenaddict1888 Damn, threatening to trap the first Daemon Prince to keep one of his brothers from falling is really cool.

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield3599 7 месяцев назад +320

    Hard to gauge, personally I feel Ahriman is packing the most power. Although Lucious’s gimmick is stupidly OP.

    • @Shadowheart181
      @Shadowheart181 7 месяцев назад +76

      Ahriman kills Lucious. Lucious takes over Ahriman. Tcheench and Slaanesh go to court over custody.

    • @JABelms
      @JABelms 7 месяцев назад +28

      i think that the other 3 champions have killed so much shit to the point that they won't get satisfaction from killing Lucius. Kharn would probably when he was still "normal" but the guy has since turned to the very definition of "killing machine" that the only thing that could satisfy him is killing the biggest psychers out there like Magnus and the Emperor

    • @mikewaterfield3599
      @mikewaterfield3599 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@Shadowheart181 hey Kitten played a card game for custody of Magnus so why not?

    • @joshley1320
      @joshley1320 7 месяцев назад +1

      Tbh kharn is probably maybe the strongest with ethier Ahriman or typhus being close second

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered 7 месяцев назад +9

      Lucius is hard countered by just locking him In a stasis vault.

  • @TenPtJackalope
    @TenPtJackalope 7 месяцев назад +84

    Sharrowkyn stomping Lucius is definitely in my top 10 Horus Heresy moments.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 7 месяцев назад +5

      Raven Guard was my favourite legion so knowing an awesome swordsman was out there clapping cheeks was great

    • @antonabad3494
      @antonabad3494 11 дней назад

      Lucius has so many tramp-stamps plastered all over his body ahahaha

  • @moneyshot6584
    @moneyshot6584 7 месяцев назад +83

    Typhus actually ended up in a draw with a grey knight captain irc during an invasion on an ultramarine star fortress during the plague wars.

    • @redcellmission6841
      @redcellmission6841 7 месяцев назад +22

      It wasnt a draw, Typhus lost to the captain and was forced to retreat from the Ultramarine star fortress

    • @moneyshot6584
      @moneyshot6584 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@redcellmission6841 I only say draw because we really don’t see either doing all too much, the captain didn’t prock the aegis much, nor did typhus from a psyched standpoint, he’s also a Great crusade era first captain, I don’t doubt he probably wins in a to the death scenario due to his prowess and experience but it would be close I think. Imo at least.

    • @dwaynehicks6838
      @dwaynehicks6838 7 месяцев назад +2

      That book series any good ?

    • @moneyshot6584
      @moneyshot6584 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@dwaynehicks6838 hard to say for some, but me personally I enjoyed it, lots of chaos shenanigans, nurgle demons are written with a lot of joy, believe it or not there’s not that much ultramarine content as it’s focused a lot of the primaris, nova marines, and guilliman himself still battling a lot of trauma.

    • @blizzardgaming7070
      @blizzardgaming7070 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@redcellmission6841grey knights and their plot armour, no way a captain beats the strongest champion of Nurgle.

  • @Stitched_up
    @Stitched_up 7 месяцев назад +34

    I feel like if Chaos was more unified these four could be the 40k version of the four horsemen

    • @Warfather17
      @Warfather17 7 месяцев назад +9

      True and that would be pretty cool to see in animation

    • @optimusvine5672
      @optimusvine5672 5 дней назад

      That would be terrifying ngl

  • @malal4751
    @malal4751 7 месяцев назад +172

    Please cover what if clonegrim returned to the setting, How'd the Imperium and primarchs react?

    • @blackrose_221
      @blackrose_221 7 месяцев назад +7

      The lion would probably behead him

    • @combomaster666
      @combomaster666 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@blackrose_221 Guilliman would want to that himself but probably couldn't

    • @C1umsyJester
      @C1umsyJester 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@blackrose_221unless the emperor appears to him and tells him not to do it

    • @Ghost-Emperor
      @Ghost-Emperor 7 месяцев назад +6

      Imagine the Blood Ravens break into Solomence to steal, find clonegrim and then sell him to the Loyalist Emperor’s Children Successors for artifacts. (The Sons of the Phoenix aren’t slick I mean come on)

    • @Toxic_Nazdan
      @Toxic_Nazdan 7 месяцев назад

      i mean i wouldnt doubt it the big e would prob take all the help he could get for his sons even a clone who wants to be loyal is still a helpful tool @@C1umsyJester

  • @Coalition2298qy.
    @Coalition2298qy. 7 месяцев назад +736

    Video idea what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a god and had created the esslarcy the imperial cult

    • @SemNome-ds1qy
      @SemNome-ds1qy 7 месяцев назад +81

      Logar would be the "pope" of imperium.

    • @eriklazo5499
      @eriklazo5499 7 месяцев назад +65

      Lorgars wet dream

    • @karsten_m
      @karsten_m 7 месяцев назад +32

      We don't talk about "the plan". The Inquisitor will see you soon.

    • @marie-m9p
      @marie-m9p 7 месяцев назад +40

      And then Lorgar leaves Chaos to finally be able to properly worship the Emperor.

    • @trimeerious4349
      @trimeerious4349 7 месяцев назад +2

      Hell yeah man!!

  • @leonalchamendris4036
    @leonalchamendris4036 7 месяцев назад +101

    Video idea, the warp entities used to create the primarchs were Heroic Archetypes from Old Earth legends.

    • @user-yw7qm4lx5n
      @user-yw7qm4lx5n 7 месяцев назад +2

      Bravo👏👏👏👏

    • @usurparemagnus
      @usurparemagnus 7 месяцев назад +10

      Are you saying gulliman is Julius Caesar/Augustus/Trajan getting another chance at playing intergalactic Rome 😂 I’m so down with that idea

    • @leonalchamendris4036
      @leonalchamendris4036 7 месяцев назад +17

      @usurparemagnus Not only that. G-man the Roman Archetype. Sanguinius is the Vampire (Dracula/Alucard). Russ if the Beowulf archetype. The Lion is the Arthurian archetype. Vulkan is the Promethius archetype. Angron is the Templar Crusader archetype. Alpharius/Omegon were the Faceless Doppleganger. Etc etc etc. They all have a source material in the psyches of man, and those legends created the warp presences that the Emperor used.

    • @drakemccoy7491
      @drakemccoy7491 7 месяцев назад +6

      I very much like this headcannon, bravo brother.

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 7 месяцев назад +7

      Thats actually the best theory Ive ever heard

  • @poisonking
    @poisonking 4 месяца назад +6

    The image of Kharn running after Ahriman round and round an arena trying to catch him is fucking hilarious

    • @louisnall3102
      @louisnall3102 4 месяца назад

      “COME DOWN HERE AND FIGHT ME!”
      “Come up and make me skull boy.”

  • @GoatyBoatyBH414
    @GoatyBoatyBH414 7 месяцев назад +50

    Would love to see a video on Apothecaries.

  • @bluelegend2798
    @bluelegend2798 7 месяцев назад +23

    My bets on ahraman. Don't know how to spell it but it's tzeench it probably changes every few minutes

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 7 месяцев назад +2

      His feats are crazy. I don't really see anyone beating him.

  • @dillonnaquin7750
    @dillonnaquin7750 7 месяцев назад +20

    Video idea: which of the stealth legions is the best? Night Lords, Ravenguard, and Alpha legion are all stealthy but in different ways. So in a three way war who comes out on top?

    • @ronkolek613
      @ronkolek613 7 месяцев назад +6

      Alpha Legion pretending to be Ravenguard attacking Nightlords while also pretending to be Nightlords and attacking Alpha Legion while also pretending to be Alpha Legion to attack Alpha Legion.

    • @daltonbecker4494
      @daltonbecker4494 7 месяцев назад +4

      Probably Raven Guard. They would be the most pragmatic about it.

    • @paimonisfood4986
      @paimonisfood4986 3 месяца назад +1

      The Alpha Legion would hurt themselves from trying to act smart, the Nightlords are all insane, Raven Guard would actually be coordinated and adapt to changing tactics.

  • @scribbles1424
    @scribbles1424 7 месяцев назад +8

    Ahriman is an awesome character and actually has goals besides "I'm evil." His reaction when some of his brothers were brought back from the Flesh Change before being taken away was big. He would do anything to bring back his brothers.

  • @matThaHatter
    @matThaHatter 7 месяцев назад +7

    Love it and completely agree.
    On a side note, Ahrimans strengths have always been the esoteric. And yes, we've seen him lose melee fights, but mostly to experts like Sanakht (who beat Lucius). But in the Thousand Sons novel he chastised his peers, saying, "One day we'll have to fight as mere Astartes," so I'm sure he keeps his martial skills honed. (At least as much as possible when you wield a shephards crook lmao😂

  • @matejjurcevic7122
    @matejjurcevic7122 7 месяцев назад +30

    We know about the Horus Heresy and the Badab war, but are there any more civil wars? Did loyalists ever fight other loyalists on other occasions? Or does infighting happen quite often? Interesting topic I think

    • @kingofwar7202
      @kingofwar7202 7 месяцев назад +3

      Goge Vandire's Reign of Blood was kinda

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 7 месяцев назад +7

      The Mechanicus had a civil war in M35.

    • @mrvex6695
      @mrvex6695 7 месяцев назад +6

      Kronus Crusade and Kauravan Crusade (From Dawn of War games, which are canon and so are Blood Ravens), where Space Marines, Sisters of Battle (Kaurava system only) and Imperial Guard fought against each other
      its stupid, but not as suprising in 40k universe where conflicting orders and internal strife and corruption is omnipresent

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 7 месяцев назад

      @@mrvex6695I replayed dow 1 recently as space marines and when I faced imperial guard and sisters I was like “wait… arent we supposed to be together ?” Just typical warhammer stuff lmao

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 7 месяцев назад

      Don’t forget the months of shame

  • @GoDSkRiLLa69
    @GoDSkRiLLa69 7 месяцев назад +5

    Ahriman is the G.O.A.T. One of the best characters pre/heresy and still getting up to absolute shenanigans. I always thought Lucius being a punching bag was super fitting, in all the disgusting ways you can imagine.
    Typed this out towards the intros for the champions, 100% agree obviously. All is dust.

  • @sasanahadian2859
    @sasanahadian2859 7 месяцев назад +11

    Superb video as always @majorkill.
    Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc

  • @alfiewaller3978
    @alfiewaller3978 7 месяцев назад +13

    Majorkill, can you please do a tier list on the performance of each primarch during the Horus Heresy

  • @wiktorsierakowski1022
    @wiktorsierakowski1022 7 месяцев назад +19

    Video idea: who would win the battle between Lion and Sanguinius, both having their legions at full strength

    • @icebreaker5138
      @icebreaker5138 7 месяцев назад +6

      The lion since at the time they had a very wide arsenal during the heresy. Straight up illegal stuff. But in a duel my money is on sangy

    • @MrFallenone
      @MrFallenone 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@icebreaker5138 Is it tho? Is your money on Sangy? Because I would put my money on the Lion for sure. He beat Angron as an old man. He beat Curze after Sangy let him flee because they could not land a hit on each other due to their foresight gift. Horus was uncomfortable around the Lion during the Great Crusade. The Lion has 1v1 fighting warp hack powers.

    • @eeyun5279
      @eeyun5279 7 месяцев назад +4

      ⁠@@MrFallenoneHorus was outright fearful of sanguinius. And sang has the best 1v1 record of pretty much anyone except the emperor. Also demon angron is basically a jobber
      To add: leman thought the only two primarchs he might have trouble with were Horus and sanguinius, so there’s that

    • @wiktorsierakowski1022
      @wiktorsierakowski1022 7 месяцев назад

      @@eeyun5279 I am not sure, but I think that Angron was even more empowered by Khorne during his duel with Lion, so it should be taken into account

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 7 месяцев назад

      @@MrFallenoneAll true but isnt it confirmed in the latest book that Sanguinius is the strongest primarch in combat ? (Duels and battles)

  • @winterknight4307
    @winterknight4307 7 месяцев назад +7

    Absolutely love the new ser up in the background, awesome!

  • @teobratuteodor1728
    @teobratuteodor1728 7 месяцев назад +12

    Ahriman could also turn the ground in quick sand, make the gravity too strong or too weak for Kharn to move, jamm his weapons and it can also boost his strenght and durability to is a master biomancer and also have divination and diviners are described in the canonn as "unbeatable in combat" for obvious reasons how Konrad Curst was also having divination.

    • @Tortle-Man
      @Tortle-Man 7 месяцев назад +5

      I don’t think it would work. Khorne’s blessing don’t just protect spell cast against you, they also stop magic around you generally, to keep your fights fair. So I think any magic against him just wouldn’t work.

    • @teobratuteodor1728
      @teobratuteodor1728 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Tortle-Man in this fight no one have their god to give them extra protection what mean to Kharn will still resist but it will still be affected just less than others and the envirement around him will not be protected.

    • @kelakogreenaddict1888
      @kelakogreenaddict1888 7 месяцев назад

      @@Tortle-Manis there any evidence that magic around Kharn doesn’t work? Flesh hounds’ being immune to psychic powers only happens on contacts, as the psychic power just gets siphoned off into the warp (happens in the ahriman omnibus)

    • @optimusvine5672
      @optimusvine5672 5 дней назад

      In melee Kharn wins anyway, he's too OP

    • @teobratuteodor1728
      @teobratuteodor1728 5 дней назад +1

      @@optimusvine5672 that's the thing, each one of them to use their advantages Kharn his melee skills, Lucius his agility, Typhus his endurance and Ahriman his versatility and intelect to let's be honest magic is the definition of versatility and you need to be smart use it and find creative usess.

  • @darrenengel2707
    @darrenengel2707 7 месяцев назад +2

    I am always greatful for your videos ..I struggle to find motivation on what to paint next and your lore videos really help my process ...I thank you MajorKill , your videos and overall vibe is what we all need ❤

  • @centermassgamer323
    @centermassgamer323 7 месяцев назад +4

    Video idea, what if each loyalist primarch was sent to arrest Magnus? So instead of Russ it was Dorn or the Lion ect. Was there a loyalist that Magnus respected enough to actually talk to? Could one of them potentially brought him back to Tera?

  • @alanolex3962
    @alanolex3962 7 месяцев назад +6

    Little thing to potentially make you hate Lucius even more, and spoilers for The Crimson King.
    Lucius is the reason that the Rubric of Ahriman went wrong, when he told a Thousand Sons Sorcerer named Hathor Ma'at to alter the spell in the book of Magnus in return for the knowledge of how to transfer his mutations onto human serfs, effectively keeping the flesh change from overtaking him.

  • @nateinky01
    @nateinky01 7 месяцев назад +9

    What would happen if the old heros and villains were replaced, not all at once but over time, would the setting still be just as good?

  • @RogueVindicare
    @RogueVindicare 7 месяцев назад +22

    One thing about Lucius is that the reason he dies so much is because he has to make every single battle a performance and kill his enemy in the most spectacular way possible to entertain Slaanesh and because he just loves fighting and dragging fights out for the experience of it which can get him killed quite a lot from carelessness. It's been shown before that at least in 40k when he's fighting to win he's by far one of the most skilled fighters in the galaxy and definitely a better duellist than Kharn and many other Imperial Champions. I kind of like Lucius' arrogant, prideful personality and as a character I don't think you're supposed to take him seriously as he himself hardly takes anything in the galaxy seriously since it's just one big adventure for him.

    • @pgael7196
      @pgael7196 7 месяцев назад +5

      True, by giving the writters a guy that can be "killed at will" they make him look weak. On top of this, in the tabletop game he never was quite optimal as a model.
      Yet, once you read the books (especially in40k), you realize how insane Lucius is. There are some fucked up situations in wich the CSM are like "omg we can't win this !Oh...wait ! Lucius has his sword, let's charge this fortress ! we are 11+Lucius, we like those odds."

    • @claytonthegrubkiller6430
      @claytonthegrubkiller6430 7 месяцев назад +2

      Eh, I don't think anynone in the setting besides a Primarch and a couple of Custodians can win against Kharn in melee. The man could tear a hive tyrant to pieces in less than a minute

    • @pgael7196
      @pgael7196 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@claytonthegrubkiller6430
      Well, Sigismund managed to do it. Therefore Sevatar would have had a chance to beat him too.
      Abaddon could, most certainly, beat him. I wouldn't be surprised to see Marneus Calgar beat Khârn, since he gave Abaddon some hard time.
      I wouldn't even be surprised to have some Blood Angels or Space wolves able to do the same.
      Nassir Amit fought in a Sanguis Extremis dual against Kharn, and it was a draw. I won't mention Valdor for obvious reasons but I'm pretty sure that more than a couple of Custodes would have a decent chance.
      Sadly Hive tyrants are somewhat like the Avatar of Khaine on that matter, they are terrifying, indeed. Yet almost every character managed to beat one or the other at some point.
      The autors don't give them justice.
      And remember, even in the books, we know that these 4 champions are monsters, blessed by the four and famous. Yet they might not even be the best chaos champions. (except Typhus for Nurgle since he is his official Herald, even Mortarion can't really command him.)
      Khârn is a beast, yes, among the bests, true.But don't overestimate the guy too much.
      I maintain : Lucius have a decent chance to win against Khârn. Lucius have basically spent the last 10k years almost exclusively chasing the most powerfull opponents he could find like a maniac, while Khârn jumped from a battlefield to another. Should they meet in a dual, I seriously doubt the fight would be as one sided as you suggest.

  • @redalpha7284
    @redalpha7284 7 месяцев назад +7

    Hey MajorKill, so when are making a video about the centurion power armor and it's variants?

    • @dragonrider1736
      @dragonrider1736 7 месяцев назад

      Man, I always forget about the centurion armor class.

  • @finnh7542
    @finnh7542 7 месяцев назад +1

    good lordy this new lighting setup is like a 100x better. nice work majorkill!

  • @waren1x
    @waren1x 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love the new set up bro, keep up the great vids coming!

  • @seanhutt4621
    @seanhutt4621 7 месяцев назад +1

    You know a lot of the time when you do these things I can't agree but this time I think you nailed it
    I put them into tiers with kharn and Ahriman tier 1 typhus tier 2 and Lucius tier 14

  • @Definitely_Dave
    @Definitely_Dave 7 месяцев назад +6

    To be a Lucius fan is to be in a constant state of pain.

    • @dukedevlan5457
      @dukedevlan5457 5 месяцев назад +1

      Isn't that not slannesh in a nutshell

  • @thepeterwan
    @thepeterwan 7 месяцев назад +1

    I am agree with your comparisons, about who wins is well described but of course depends of the nature of the scenario and many other things as well. Anyways pretty well described these characters are really well written each of them and like them all , but my favorite are Arhiman because he knows a lot and he can be used to bring context as was did in the last novels. Also his background and power is amazingly useful anytime.

  • @R-YR29
    @R-YR29 7 месяцев назад +5

    PLEASE do a video covering the new lore regarding the Emporer & Horus !!!

  • @kyleshurmur-dg3kq
    @kyleshurmur-dg3kq 4 месяца назад

    Crack me up every time I watch Ur vids man started getting into Warhammer recently so find Ur vids helpful keep the good work up geeza

  • @epigoneofchaos4975
    @epigoneofchaos4975 7 месяцев назад +4

    Suggestion : Best homebrew space marine chapters

  • @JohnnyFiction
    @JohnnyFiction 7 месяцев назад +2

    Increase the volume a bit and add some more overall and front lit light to the setup. Great work, keep it up, you bamf

  • @legio-IV-Cataphract
    @legio-IV-Cataphract 7 месяцев назад +3

    A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great

  • @crilleedara
    @crilleedara 7 месяцев назад +4

    Nice video idea, never getting tired of a good ol' "Fuck Lucius"! 😎

  • @JoseTheKraken
    @JoseTheKraken 7 месяцев назад +3

    11:13 I think he would love that though

  • @xanmontes8715
    @xanmontes8715 6 месяцев назад +2

    So all we need is a necron warrior to kill Lucius...?

  • @patrickstar1-f9o
    @patrickstar1-f9o 7 месяцев назад +2

    Video idea: Blood Pact explained.

  • @InquisitorJoshua
    @InquisitorJoshua 7 месяцев назад +3

    Nothing more enjoyable than a character that loves themselves too much.

  • @Masquerademasque
    @Masquerademasque 7 месяцев назад

    mateeee lighting is looking good! well done

  • @smoothtrooper781
    @smoothtrooper781 7 месяцев назад +1

    Kharn has some protection against direct pysker abilities, but that wouldnt stop Ahriman from just throwing an entire baneblade or some shit at his forehead

  • @Vantud391
    @Vantud391 7 месяцев назад +1

    After watching The Exodite animated series, I'm curious about Tau Navy. Please make a video about them, their strategy and battles they fought against Imperium Navy.

  • @dinocha0s
    @dinocha0s 6 месяцев назад +2

    I mean they are all stupidly powerful, im not sure how normal Imperial soldiers and even regular space marines are going to take them down even without plot armor
    -Lucious and his stupid losing ability
    -Kharn being evil immortal doomguy
    -Typhus who controls a trillion flies and demonic plagues that turn entire planets to zombies while being tanky AF
    -OR Mr Ahriman the guy who soloed an entire eldar strike force by turning half of them harmless animals with a snap of his finger and then killing them and the using lightning bolts/fire/all sorts of magic bs to kill the other half
    I think they would win a large portion of death battles with characters from other universes

  • @Ireland609
    @Ireland609 7 месяцев назад +2

    Ahriman! Ahriman! Ahriman!

  • @Nyghtking
    @Nyghtking 7 месяцев назад +2

    Isn't Ahriman also one of the only psykers that can destroy souls with his power?
    I remember hearing that, and typically thats something that requires a shitton of psychic might to be able to pull off as in lore there haven't been many who can do it.

  • @TheBoneZone40k
    @TheBoneZone40k 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nah, this all tracks
    Typhus in Dark Imperium: Plague War got pushed back and technically "beaten" by a mixture of Nova Marine terminators and Grey Knights. With the Grey Knights keeping the worst of the warp born diseases from harming anyone fighting typhus until he used his psychic bullshittery.
    Ahirman is as powerful as at least like 10 unnamed Grey Knights so it makes sense.

  • @Goyimdemduc
    @Goyimdemduc 7 месяцев назад

    Man i just know when majorkill uploads it's gonne be a great fkn time

  • @loveblues9633
    @loveblues9633 7 месяцев назад +2

    I love typhus and kharn but the powers of the emperor n malcador really shows us that sorcery is extremely overpowered n he is probably the most powerful because of it, being able to destroy a planet and change reality through the warp is insane.

  • @brickphone8069
    @brickphone8069 7 месяцев назад +1

    Doesn’t Typhus also have like a weird warp bug colony inside him that attack people for him as well as being the only chaos champion in Terminator plate, I think he’s got a good chance at taking it though that depends on if the warp bugs attacks count as psychic attacks, and also if Ahriman has the power to disintegrate Typhus or not

  • @SonOfHighValour
    @SonOfHighValour 7 месяцев назад

    11:14 - No, don't do that! You don't know where he's been!

  • @joshualutes6536
    @joshualutes6536 7 месяцев назад

    I love your videos Majorkill and this one made my day by your insane ability to get me hyped for all these legendary characters in 40k. I hope you have a great day and Lucius the eternal is the greatest to ever exist 👍

  • @andrewgeldmacher4765
    @andrewgeldmacher4765 7 месяцев назад +1

    How come no one ever mentions Saul Tarvitz when talking about Lucius most satisfying defeats. It’s one of my favorite moments of the entire heresy.

  • @cringelord1809
    @cringelord1809 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ah, some nice Ahriman appreciation is always welcome

  • @40kGoldenGuardian
    @40kGoldenGuardian 7 месяцев назад

    Video idea anything custodes 💪 keep up the great work mate 👊

  • @vaderbean1
    @vaderbean1 7 месяцев назад +2

    0:35 whats that about looking at their feet??

  • @ignacygemra9306
    @ignacygemra9306 7 месяцев назад

    Love the new studio! ❤

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl 7 месяцев назад

    Agreed. Kind of funny that the list of favourites is the same as the rankings in a duel.

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 4 месяца назад +1

    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULLTHRONE!!!

  • @JackArmstrong-cc3ux
    @JackArmstrong-cc3ux 7 месяцев назад

    Best part of Lucius’s story was getting his nose broken by loken

  • @naynaysfx8940
    @naynaysfx8940 7 месяцев назад

    Love what you do big man

  • @secondarytrollaccount666
    @secondarytrollaccount666 7 месяцев назад

    From the hammer and bolter episode " the eternal" dude got bodied by a couple exorcists. No way hes beating kharne, arhiman, or typhus while hes busy getting clapped by skilled but non chaos infused astartes. Didnt even get killed by the chapter master either just a squad of marines while he had a squad of emperors children with him as well.

  • @mandke23
    @mandke23 7 месяцев назад

    Video on every chaos faction war/battles such as khorne vs nurgle etc

  • @amongusgaming123
    @amongusgaming123 7 месяцев назад +1

    Idea: What happened to the non-space marine traitors like Guardsmen, Titans and Knight houses?

  • @wilhelmpetzold6904
    @wilhelmpetzold6904 7 месяцев назад

    5:48 reminds me of:
    "Is guilliman the greatest primarch?"
    "He isn´t even the greatest Ultramarine"

  • @justinanderson2460
    @justinanderson2460 7 месяцев назад

    This is pretty solid as far as analysis goes. Kharn is completely immune to Psyker powers thanks to Khorne so no amount of blasting from Ahriman is gonna do anything to Kharn. The question is 2-fold:
    1) Would Kharn's immunity to warp powers also prevent Ahriman from using his precognition to against Khorne's champion in combat. if yes, then Ahriman has significantly lower chances of winning because Kharn only needs to surprise him once and get an advantage for a second to get into combat and slaughter him.
    2) Would be if Ahriman could work out a way to use his powers indirectly to kill/defeat Kharn before Kharn managed to surprise him and/or get the advantage he needs to get in close and seal the deal. Even then, Ahriman can just teleport away pretty much on a whim so realistically, even IF Kharn gets in a lucky hit or manages to somehow close the distance, he would need to be on Ahriman immediately and push him as hard as possible to stop the sorcerer from focusing enough to bring his magiks to bear properly/in full force - much like the Eldar Shadowseer did.
    So really, it is up for debate and again, as Majorkill mentioned, it would be hardly surprising to see Kharn edge out a victory here but the fact it relies more on context than Ahriman taking the win - who simply has higher chances over all due to versatility, range and hax - leads me to lean a little towards Ahriman in a very close duel.
    Typhus IS a contender and definitely the best all rounder but he just falls short against either of these 2 for the reasons already mentioned.
    His sorcery can't compete with Ahriman and he's be overwhelmed without being able to bring any of his palgues to bear and Ahriman could easily enough remain at a distance to avoid a melee fight if he so chose. Meanwhile, Kharn would be immune to Typhus warp plagues in copmbat end even if this was not the case, he could and would be capable of taking Typhus apart before the latter could take him down with plagues anyway.
    Lucius is straight trash.

  • @Michealadolfjackson25
    @Michealadolfjackson25 7 месяцев назад +1

    God damn the lighting has gotten so much better its insane

  • @AntiNubDevice
    @AntiNubDevice 3 месяца назад

    Anyone else in on the idea of Lucius, Kharn, and Typhus just ganging up to kill the big psyker, then just having at it in a melee brawl?

  • @gunthersunshine9418
    @gunthersunshine9418 7 месяцев назад

    the fight between them is basicly rock paper scissors with lucius beeing air

  • @HeavyMetalwarGaming3970
    @HeavyMetalwarGaming3970 7 месяцев назад

    Hell Great Video

  • @moncey1120
    @moncey1120 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can you do a video about the greatest marine of each gene line

  • @CyKosys187
    @CyKosys187 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank ypu for not wearing the shiny shirt again.. 😂😂 love the vids sir keep it up.

  • @dueinuremom5082
    @dueinuremom5082 7 месяцев назад

    You should do a video about the different drugs of warhammer. I mean like recreational ones more than stims.

  • @widdershins5383
    @widdershins5383 7 месяцев назад +1

    Eh I’d say it’s more of a tossup between typhus and Kharn, as you say Ahriman would beat them both, but it’s definitely a maybe on who’d beat who between nurgle and khorn. Both of them would be brutal in melee and Kharn would just shrug off Typhus plagues

  • @anthraxcrab2222
    @anthraxcrab2222 7 месяцев назад +1

    Vid idea what if the emp ( maybe sanguinius too) kneeled to horus at the end of the heresy

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 4 месяца назад

    Right off the bat, a glitchy start or it might phone crapping out.

  • @euanjnigoselorio9438
    @euanjnigoselorio9438 7 месяцев назад

    Kharn- Very Angry BOI
    Typhus- the Guy Who didn't take a shower
    Lucius- Guy who Keeps losing
    Ahriman- The Book Nerd

  • @whitlermountain7198
    @whitlermountain7198 7 месяцев назад

    love the new lighting/audio bugga

  • @54relly96
    @54relly96 6 месяцев назад

    Ppl always seem to forget that kharn has a blood mist that follows him and can summon daemons at will

  • @loaf6700
    @loaf6700 6 месяцев назад +1

    Heres how the 4 way battle would go.
    3 warriors enter an arena. Notice I said 3 and not 4. Kharn, who refuses to put down his axes, cant open the door and gets pissed and goes the opposite direction.
    Ahriman quickly pulls out a book of spells but quickly realizes its the wrong book. Tzeentch swapped his spellbook for a cookbook because it would be really funny. He claims he'll be "right back".
    Lucius leaps at Typhus and unleashes a flurry of strikes but all they do is tickle Typhus' fat belly. In the melee, Lucius accidently swallows one of the flies following Typhus and begins to choke. Typhus attempts the heimlich maneuver but accidently snaps Lucius spine which paralyzes him.
    Typhus wins but hes so fat he actually couldnt see what was going on so he has no idea there even was a fight.
    Kharn found the door operator and killed him.
    Arhiman actually enjoyed the cookbook and started vox channel about cooking.
    Lucius was wheelchair bound and everyone actually pittied him until it turns out he was faking it the whole time.

  • @JustinTheMid
    @JustinTheMid 7 месяцев назад

    Video idea: what is the strongest foot soldier in the galaxy? Custodes? Harlequins? Armigers? Necrons? It seems interesting comparing their canon power levels.

  • @SuperOAFMAN
    @SuperOAFMAN 7 месяцев назад

    Kaldor said hold my beer.

  • @mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
    @mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 7 месяцев назад

    LOL 3:54 Describing how I play Darktide as a Zealot :P

  • @macdutte
    @macdutte 6 месяцев назад +1

    Totally agree

  • @giochilingarashvili424
    @giochilingarashvili424 7 месяцев назад +2

    Shadrak meduson?

  • @markgresch9944
    @markgresch9944 7 месяцев назад

    I figure a fight involving Lucious and Arhiman results in somehow Arhiman sending Lucious to the Labyrinth of Tzeench and being like "I'm not falling for your reincarnation bullshit, and Tzeench has far too much intrest it me to just let the Labrynth kill you, so I may as well use what will likely be my far worse fate than killing you."

  • @derrabbit7289
    @derrabbit7289 7 месяцев назад

    That moment when your like actually drives the number up!😃

  • @krassway8472
    @krassway8472 7 месяцев назад

    I fucking love your vs videos

  • @michaelfain6866
    @michaelfain6866 7 месяцев назад

    A video where you talk about what the primarchs would be like if they all reached their full potential would be cool