What are Pyro & Cryo Missing? (Mavuika & Citlali Speculation)

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  • Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025

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  • @jamiekb9v
    @jamiekb9v  2 месяца назад +73

    Hags need love too

    • @Gazeta2nd
      @Gazeta2nd 2 месяца назад +4

      Based

    • @Inj2Moves
      @Inj2Moves 2 месяца назад +11

      My Granny can't be this cute.

    • @kook3585
      @kook3585 2 месяца назад +2

      Based

    • @eastonair
      @eastonair 2 месяца назад +2

      Based

  • @MuhaamadAreeb
    @MuhaamadAreeb 2 месяца назад +117

    Surely pyro won't make another DPS right

    • @joe_simon
      @joe_simon 2 месяца назад +11

      Me having all (and pulling all) Pyro 5*
      Surely this won't be the 6th on field carry...

    • @QuangNguyen-qf2eb
      @QuangNguyen-qf2eb 2 месяца назад +15

      surely there won't be any powercreeping...

    • @fabio1712
      @fabio1712 2 месяца назад

      💀

    • @HuH22132
      @HuH22132 2 месяца назад +9

      Surely the archon of war won't be a DPS Right ?

    • @el7284
      @el7284 2 месяца назад

      SURELY

  • @Inj2Moves
    @Inj2Moves 2 месяца назад +40

    Interesting perspective. Genuinely curious what hoyo will do for physical. Oh boy.

    • @jamiekb9v
      @jamiekb9v  2 месяца назад +14

      snezhnaya will be hype 🤞

    • @rascalvo
      @rascalvo 2 месяца назад

      @@jamiekb9v Hopefully just tweak superconduct to reduce phys, electro and cryo resistance so sub dpses can deal some dmg. Then make a 4* that is straight rework for Eula (Mika you ain't that guy) like Faruzan was for Xiao. New char just needs good multipliers and self buffs, half the problems with Physical is Eula being clunky and unsynergistic with how the game works

  • @Kukisei
    @Kukisei 2 месяца назад +17

    Surely, hoyoverse wouldn’t make another Pyro dps, and make a Cryo unit that doesn’t help cryo in the slightest. No that’s stupid they’d never do that…

  • @xavysen
    @xavysen 2 месяца назад +21

    As a Wriothesley and Kinich main, I have high hopes for Mavuika!
    Also, kind of unrelated but, I feel like at this point they should just remove the restriction for Cryo resonance. 15% crit rate isn't all that crazy, and double Cryo isn't really popular core like double Hydro or double Pyro anyways. The Cryo supports just aren't nearly as good as the Hydro or Pyro ones. They changed Hydro resonance back in 3.0, so I would think changing Cryo resonance isn't out of their scope either.

    • @jamiekb9v
      @jamiekb9v  2 месяца назад +8

      good idea! there is precedence set for them adjusting resonance and the cryo crit rate buff is pretty limiting

    • @SR64.
      @SR64. 2 месяца назад

      it's enough for kinch but probably not enough for wriothesley

    • @Dooood24
      @Dooood24 2 месяца назад +3

      Boy do i have news for you..

    • @dazaiosamu7184
      @dazaiosamu7184 2 месяца назад

      it should give more crit

  • @theorangecandle
    @theorangecandle 2 месяца назад +7

    Really interesting how much speculation a lot of CCs do regarding future units..... meanwhile I just open up the leaks subreddit and I already know the entire kit of mavuika, citlali (and another unit who I won't mention as spoilers)

  • @Asumsworld
    @Asumsworld 2 месяца назад +4

    This feels painful to watch after seeing the leaks 😅

  • @tracer4b
    @tracer4b 2 месяца назад +2

    Even though anyone can just look at the leaked kits right now, it's still really interesting to hear speculations and ideas for what future character kits could be. Even if Mavuika/Citlali don't fulfill those roles, other future characters could still step in

  • @spyrothetimelord
    @spyrothetimelord 2 месяца назад +4

    People are really mad you don't look at leaks lmao. Guys people are allowed to speculate on characters without looking at leaked kits, and probably better to do that anyway since if the kit is already out, it's unlikely to change much during their beta? Y'all are convinced other people care about leaks as much as you but you're living in the world of the minority. Some people like being genuinely surprised, some people just respect being shown things in the way the company wants to share them. Y'all are weirdly aggravated about people not looking at leaks

  • @NotAName1
    @NotAName1 2 месяца назад +13

    Surely Citlali will be the cryo or physical support we really need and not yet another pyro/hydro support because that would be crazy right? RIGHT??

  • @ookamishin402
    @ookamishin402 2 месяца назад +31

    Yea, let's guess what Mavuika and Citlali's kit could be, cuz we 100% don't know, right guys?😌

    • @Doobydoe
      @Doobydoe 2 месяца назад +3

      He doesn't look at leaks so yeah, clueless

    • @ookamishin402
      @ookamishin402 2 месяца назад +6

      @@Doobydoe Sure buddy, thank good im the cluless one, besides, if you read carefully i wasn't reffering to him, i was reffering to us, like people who read this comment.

    • @Doobydoe
      @Doobydoe 2 месяца назад +4

      @@ookamishin402 I was saying that he was clueless lol

    • @wugira76
      @wugira76 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@Doobydoesurely he doesnt 😂

    • @Ranamon9132
      @Ranamon9132 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Doobydoebruh he does that so he never goes against hoyo. He knows the leaks. He just pretends. A lot of cc goes about it that way. They’re forced to lol

  • @erronblack3462
    @erronblack3462 2 месяца назад +3

    the best eula support would be an electro 5* burst buffer that does what xilonen's c2 electro part does making the rotation go from 26 sec to 16 sec,huge dps increase huge qol increase and huge muti wawe matchup increase, and the other ofc would be a cryo phys sub dps that generates particles from offield and has supportive talents, a scroll set for phys and an unconditional cryo resonance we are already at 95k team dps without even making a better mika which we easily could

  • @S5618x
    @S5618x 2 месяца назад +4

    If you really wanna get into Hoyo's mind just think about how to best annoy your player base for shits and giggles and you're pretty much set.

  • @leukos22
    @leukos22 2 месяца назад +12

    All twelve of us Eula believers are feeling the despair of being denied a superconduct support or off field physical damage dealer 😞

    • @fabio1712
      @fabio1712 2 месяца назад

      @@leukos22 Shatter is also a elemental reaction. I feel like this would be a good direction to take. Sth. like a "Shatter Nilou". That way one wouldn't even have to build their Physical dps' for EM, so their builds qould be the same and they'd still be able to deal Shatter damage.
      So the last issue is to get a Frozen aura on non Freezable enemies, but I feel like this could be Archon territory.

    • @mikkunmikkichi3762
      @mikkunmikkichi3762 2 месяца назад

      mehh.. doesnt really matter. eula's best team is raiden furina (+xianyun/healer).
      if you replace raiden or furina in there, it's not possible to complete the chambers in 50 secs.
      eula raiden teams can actually compete with the top tier meta teams, atleast in boss chambers.
      there is not much room for a support that has less value than furina or raiden.
      if mihoyo deceided to give any eula support, it has to be archon level, or else it will be fvckin useless like mika.

    • @wallacehoward2792
      @wallacehoward2792 2 месяца назад

      Your faith in Eula will pay off when we get to Snezhnaya. They will release her BiS support in the Ice Nation. I mean, they HAVE to. Right?
      Right?

    • @danielcarrilho5217
      @danielcarrilho5217 2 месяца назад

      @@mikkunmikkichi3762 actualy mika C6 is BIS in eula raiden furina team
      and it would be quite easy to replace raiden and furina with cryo/electro chars that do off field physical dmg/energy/buffs

  • @retrofying4761
    @retrofying4761 2 месяца назад +1

    if i had to guess citlali's kit she would probably be a superconduct support or something since they've been releasing supports/dps for more niche reactions

  • @juggernaut6666
    @juggernaut6666 2 месяца назад +4

    if we are restricting ourselves with not stepping on shenhe's toes we are really screwed. If any character desprately needs power crept its shenhe. If anything just steal a move from the honkai team and release a new shenhe saying some BS about she took off the string sealing her power. Put it as a new character that fixes all her problems. Put the c6 as part of her base kit give her some god damn energy so shes not a black hole. Or just let the quills last for a duration instead of having an amount.

  • @wuaduhsiapa
    @wuaduhsiapa 2 месяца назад +1

    i bet either Capitano or (and) Sandrone will be physical unit, we need physical dps who dont reliant with burst

  • @Szczurzyslawa
    @Szczurzyslawa 2 месяца назад +5

    If she's not stronger than Xiangling i really don't care for her :"( Why would I pull whole aah archon to be weaker than a 4*. I just wanted Xiangling that has her burst on E and can do no damage, but I just wanted an oppresive pyro application. Mualani by herself applies hydro slowly but some of her nicest teams are double hydro and that's where no-XL teams just stop working well.

    • @SR64.
      @SR64. 2 месяца назад +2

      if she releases in her current state she'll be better at c2 than both arlecchino and neuvilette c6

    • @SR64.
      @SR64. 2 месяца назад +5

      she'll still be worse than xiangling off field in most scenarios

    • @Szczurzyslawa
      @Szczurzyslawa 2 месяца назад +4

      @@SR64. idc for another on-field dps and I hate her bike so I was only hoping for utility for characters I actually like to see and look at on field 💀 wouldn't pull her no matter what really, but it is silly how the one thing that everyone was hoping for she can't even do.

    • @H2Ocup
      @H2Ocup 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@SR64.Saying shes better than c6 neuvi is insane

    • @saudmubarak1542
      @saudmubarak1542 2 месяца назад +1

      She is with c2r1.

  • @kashira-0
    @kashira-0 2 месяца назад +9

    Why are we not talking about a Bennett alternative at all? Am I the only one going crazy or what... Bennett is way more omni-present and game-warping than XL. In nearly all abyss usage rates, he has almost double her percentage. ATK scalers are literally balanced around him, so without him, they feel gimped. There are ZERO alternatives for what he does while for XL as a Pyro applier, there is Thoma and Dehya for Burgeon/Burning/Chevreuse, the Burn reaction itself for some melts and even Xinyan can work with Mualani vape. XL at least did get some competition over time no matter how scuffed it was. Bennett has NONE.
    Anyways, from what's been leaked, Mavuika is a disappointment. Bennett continues absolutely undisputed for the rest of the game. 🤦‍♀

    • @lynn9265
      @lynn9265 2 месяца назад +2

      I'd be totally cool with a Bennett side grade who doesn't even necessarily powercreep him. Could be a bit less healing than him (he might not heal if you're over 70%, but when he does it's very easy to have him heal for quite a lot), maybe along the lines of Chevreuse's heals or something. And the atk buff doesn't need to be quite as big either so long as it isn't bound to a circle.

    • @Camelia437
      @Camelia437 2 месяца назад +1

      ​​@@lynn9265 I would like a characters who can heal outside of the circle with a little bit worse ATK buffs but not circle impact.
      I prefer if it is a pyro characters, because pyro is about ATK.
      So it is not a powercreep, but a more comfy choice.

    • @lynn9265
      @lynn9265 2 месяца назад +1

      @Camelia437 yeah exactly, content creators and speed runners might still prefer bennett then, but the average person going for comfort could pick the non-circle bound option and just trade in a bit of damage and heals.

    • @Bravo6
      @Bravo6 2 месяца назад

      its also makes sense why they dont want to make another bennet knowing how powerful he is

  • @g-1050
    @g-1050 2 месяца назад +1

    Cool ideas. Although I could also seem them going damage perspective and making a good cyro xianling to make use of all our Pyro on fielders or enable Pyro melt on them depending on their application speed and make a comical xianling enable a second xianling core.

  • @lucasayabe
    @lucasayabe 2 месяца назад

    its impressive how he could guess some things really right even without looking for the leaks

  • @thegamingkeyblade7066
    @thegamingkeyblade7066 2 месяца назад +8

    5 star xiangling when???

    • @SR64.
      @SR64. 2 месяца назад +4

      it's not mavuika

    • @fabio1712
      @fabio1712 2 месяца назад +1

      @@thegamingkeyblade7066 Never. When people say she's broken, they literally mean it. No ICD Vape is ridiculous. Bet, Hoyo didn't even consider that at release and eventually ended up having to balance the game around her.

    • @dancollins6289
      @dancollins6289 2 месяца назад

      Making a Xiangling that does 10% more damage would not break the balance of the game and would make a lot people happier if we wouldn't need to use the (by far) ugliest character in the game in almost every team that need off field pyro.

  • @Daivd1111
    @Daivd1111 2 месяца назад +6

    A perfect archon doesn't exist: Xiangling burst+Bennet burst

  • @nk30020
    @nk30020 2 месяца назад +17

    Pyro Archon's application should be just enough for mualani while not enough to buff neuvillete

    • @arthurgeier2545
      @arthurgeier2545 2 месяца назад +4

      Mavuika's pyro application is in line with Mualani's kit. Mualani marks, generates stacks, sends n u k es.
      Hoyo designed Mavuika in such a way she will synergize with Mualani but not so much with everyone else.
      Perhaps Ayato can also make use off Mavuika because his off-field hydro application is broken tbh.

    • @Aquastarlord217
      @Aquastarlord217 2 месяца назад +2

      They actually didn't design mavuika with mualani in mind, it's the total opposite bc mavuika doesn't provide enough pyro for mualani+ any other hydro character to vape consistently, this means that mualani with mavuika has nobody really useful for the 4th slot

    • @SR64.
      @SR64. 2 месяца назад

      if she releases in her current state she'll be better at c2 than both arlecchino and neuvilette at c6

    • @arthurgeier2545
      @arthurgeier2545 2 месяца назад +2

      @Aquastarlord217 Actually Mavuika's pyro application works with Mualani.
      Mualani does not vape upon marking enemies but generates stacks up to 3 times and throws hydro n u kes at marked enemies. This means that Mavuika's pyro application is consistent for Mualani because it falls in line with how her kit works.
      And the best thing is, we won't need Xiangling who has ridiculous ER requirements.
      You are clearly in the wrong.

    • @H2Ocup
      @H2Ocup 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@arthurgeier2545 They aren't really wrong when they say mualani wouldn't have a proper 4th slot with mavuika tho

  • @spyrothetimelord
    @spyrothetimelord 2 месяца назад

    Xingqiu was considered super strong and still has his uses/is used well alongside his "upgrade" Yelan in many teams. I think they could easily make a better Xiangling without her problems but with different setbacks so it doesn't "break the game" (it's largely single player so why would this matter, genuinely? And even then, if you're ultimately paying for a character with money, time, or saved resources, then yes, they should be strong and worth it). Having a pyro character like Raiden so we aren't playing circle impact, even if it had a terrible ICD like Dehya's skill, would likely be better than using Kinich with Xiangling (everyone on release "just like everyone else, he *wants* Xiangling!") and not getting any off field pyro because you're too far. She's a 1.0 character we are still tied to who will still have her fans and uses. I'm still patiently waiting for the pyro off field support that will outclass her because I am never building her. Not a fan of her design, playstyle, nor do I really care for her character. One day she will be dethroned and it will be fine. Bennett I survived without and still do, and that's with my previous main being Diluc. Even with Lyney I never ended up building him. I just don't like him or his design enough to be motivated to do so. He's technically been replaced in several teams that wanted him, like I recall some comparisons showing Yoimiya did better dmg with Yun Jin than with him, he's been fully replaced in Xiao teams, etc.
    I'm ready for Mavuika to kick them off the thrones because so far all archons have been game changers with their longevity. I know people want dps archon but I really don't. We don't need more dps pyro and even if we did, they would never be able to release another pyro dps under the same logic of Mavuika needing to be so broken she is worth pulling, so future characters can't outshine the archon...
    Citlali I remember people saying she might be superconduct support for physical because her color scheme is like Chev for overload and Shinobu for hyperbloom, etc. I would love this because I am always looking for improvements to my Eula team. I kind of would want her to do something else though? I'm not sure what but just something. Shenhe being a 5* dedicated cryo support is both a blessing and curse

  • @studiesinflux1304
    @studiesinflux1304 2 месяца назад

    I think we need a Pyro unit that specifically scales off or buffs Elemental Mastery (EM) and focuses on spamming Pyro application. (By spam I mean actually as fast as Xiangling but for almost no direct talent damage.)
    It would fit better than the workarounds we are using for burgeon, and possibly allow for teams to use the overloaded reaction for more than 20% of team damage.
    To avoid Shinobu with a red costume or Thoma except scaling from EM instead of HP, have part of the kit scale from number of other elemental applications to be original. That should make this unit’s team mate ideally Xingqiu, Fischl, or other fast applicators. Another way to differentiate would be to give them really slow skill animations like Yae Miko, so that you play them more like secondary DPS than skill+burst+swap off.

  • @ixirion
    @ixirion 2 месяца назад +1

    my copium was that Mavuika will be buffer/support. For example - her buffs it to double at% bonus for everyone on the team have and also give Crit dmg based on total at% Her Pyro app should be 25 sec off field on skill every 2 sec. While the skill is active you cant heal. done for Beny as support.
    I however cringe so much that she rides a bike that I kinda dont want to pull her. She will never be cool as Inferno ryder and riding a bike between saurians is fckng immersion breaking at max for me

  • @dre_xp8541
    @dre_xp8541 2 месяца назад +10

    A XL alternatives...Nature is healing 😭🙏🏾

    • @SR64.
      @SR64. 2 месяца назад +6

      nature is withering harder than before

  • @awesomelord2536
    @awesomelord2536 2 месяца назад +1

    Here's my 2 ideas:
    Cryo dmg based on healing. I feel like cryo got a lot of dark lichking vibes character. Rosaria, qiqi zombie, now citlali spiritual stuff and hell the tsaritsa. We can go with "sucking life" and becoming colder so deal dmg based of how much life u want to heal for. Do this and everyone's c6 qiqi is unlocked😂
    Iansan being from the literal tribe of bodybuilders, can be electro, physical dmg booster. In terms of lore, can either have her onfield punching or buff physical thru good sports coaching and doping(electrotherapy)😅

  • @simparmando7538
    @simparmando7538 Месяц назад

    Wish they will reallse a Yunjin kind of buffer but for charge attacks

  • @trickshotftw2110
    @trickshotftw2110 2 месяца назад

    Mavuika and citlali both coming together in the first phase. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @grrah3939
    @grrah3939 2 месяца назад

    Hopefully Mav is a good support and Cit is going buff all the cryo units 😭🙏

  • @Bravo6
    @Bravo6 2 месяца назад

    aware

  • @sweatymobilegamer784
    @sweatymobilegamer784 2 месяца назад +4

    Just look at leaks already and talk about your opinions on "hypothetical" kits they "could" have 😂

  • @Lukz243
    @Lukz243 2 месяца назад +1

    In 5.3 I will be broke
    Send help

  • @brulckgui
    @brulckgui 2 месяца назад

    wheres chasca video? shes become meta? shes have value to pull???

    • @jamiekb9v
      @jamiekb9v  2 месяца назад +2

      i didnt pull chasca, saving for next patch

    • @brulckgui
      @brulckgui 2 месяца назад

      @jamiekb9v Even so, make a video about the character's potential. Does she have a future? Please

  • @GxGNoir
    @GxGNoir 2 месяца назад

    Calling Citlali a hag is crazy

  • @Sora-GrandCross
    @Sora-GrandCross 2 месяца назад

    HOLY

  • @yaoloh8302
    @yaoloh8302 2 месяца назад

    hear me out,
    pyro faruzan

    • @Doobydoe
      @Doobydoe 2 месяца назад

      So Bennett, with out circle impact

  • @刹那-g7c
    @刹那-g7c 2 месяца назад +2

    Natlan is a disaster, apart from Xilonen, nobody uses characters from this region, not even to explore the world and that's why now Mavuika comes in, to force its use.

  • @jart372
    @jart372 2 месяца назад +11

    Speculating about potential kit when we know their kit from 3 days is kinda pointless. Why dont you cover leaks? TGS got sponsored from mihoyo even though he cover leaks.

    • @jamiekb9v
      @jamiekb9v  2 месяца назад +16

      tgs can get his bag im happy for him

    • @TCGSyphax
      @TCGSyphax 2 месяца назад +7

      It's fun to hear speculation but once we know, it's pointless af. so i agree

    • @Ranamon9132
      @Ranamon9132 2 месяца назад

      He just doesn’t wanna run afoul of hoyo just in case. He has to pretend like he doesn’t know. It’s normal. Come on. It’s his livelihood man. It’s a different kinda video, different kinda content. It’s fine.

    • @juno3287
      @juno3287 2 месяца назад +1

      Its fine, maybe should have just made the video like a month ago, instead of now where the kits are already leaked

    • @lynn9265
      @lynn9265 2 месяца назад +1

      It's a thinly veiled criticism of the actual leaked kits, while also providing ideas for possible future kits post-5.4
      We're just identifying what is still missing (and silently coming to the conclusion that the upcoming characters are NOT that unfortunately)

  • @arthurgeier2545
    @arthurgeier2545 2 месяца назад

    Mark my words, Mavuika won't powercreep Arlecchino, especially at C0.
    Mavuika will replace Xiangling because she synergizes with Natlan DPS.
    And Arle is still top-tier pyro DPS and will remain so for a long time.

    • @Lad871
      @Lad871 2 месяца назад +6

      Surely...

    • @9y2gt8wc07wxpfcs
      @9y2gt8wc07wxpfcs 2 месяца назад +5

      yeah... i hope...................................

    • @crash_bobo10
      @crash_bobo10 2 месяца назад +5

      Just face reality bro, she's stronger than arle😭

    • @dancollins6289
      @dancollins6289 2 месяца назад +4

      about that...

    • @arthurgeier2545
      @arthurgeier2545 2 месяца назад

      @@crash_bobo10 Not even close at C0
      Archons have most of their power locked behind constellations so if you got Arle at C0 with D ea thmatch R5 or her sig, C0 Mavuika is not even close to her in overall DPS.

  • @MJ-zr6bb
    @MJ-zr6bb 2 месяца назад +2

    why is he pretending to not know thier kits lol

  • @wugira76
    @wugira76 2 месяца назад +3

    What do you mean "speculation". The leaks are out LMAO

    • @GreyNya
      @GreyNya 2 месяца назад +5

      this guy is commited to pretend leaks are non-existing, so hoyo could potentially endorse him alongside such creators as IWTL and give access to the test servers for pre-release dripping

    • @Ranamon9132
      @Ranamon9132 2 месяца назад +3

      @@GreyNyayeap. I mean he has to pretend. It’s his job. It’s his livelihood. It’s always hilarious to watch cc’s that have to pretend they don’t know what’s the kit tho haha. They 100% know but are forced to pretend. I would too. It’s their money man

    • @Shuraig7
      @Shuraig7 2 месяца назад

      @@Ranamon9132i do think some cc genuinely don’t look at leaks

    • @spyrothetimelord
      @spyrothetimelord 2 месяца назад

      Surprisingly, many people, including many CCs, actually don't look at leaks! It's this wild concept of wanting to be surprised. You can tell by the way he speaks about characters in videos and on stream whether he looks at leaks; your inability to distinguish the difference is your problem, not his.

  • @guiscardaddams8745
    @guiscardaddams8745 2 месяца назад +1

    Dude we KNOW you've seen what's out there, trying to emphasize otherwise only proves you did.. 😂

    • @jamiekb9v
      @jamiekb9v  2 месяца назад +23

      believe it or not out of the entire genshin impact community, people who follow leaks are a vocal minority. a lot of people just dont care

    • @alaadawood5876
      @alaadawood5876 2 месяца назад

      The ratio is crazy 😂

  • @razor5694
    @razor5694 2 месяца назад

    Bro, just look at leaks man. This game's boring post leaks anyways lol