Hey everyone, I wanted to try something new with this video. Whether you like it or hate it please let me know so I know what kind of content to make in the future. This video is way longer than I liked but I wanted it to be complete. Hopefully this will prove useful as a buying guide for anyone who's in the market for a brand new 600cc sport bike.
HeroRR I know you own a couple of Honda’s, mine is a 2013 Honda CB1000R naked bike with lots of mods and personal ques. I love Honda’s build quality, but they lack some of the things that draw us toward other bikes. More power for one, but I can’t wait to see the new 2018 CB1000R up close and personal!
When he said that I actually had to rewind just to double check if I heard right... :) And he named this video "The Best 600cc Sport Bike for 2018 (Buyer's Guide)"? C'mon man !
As an owner of an 2018 R6 I can tell you some facts: (Edit: I'd also like to point out the fact that R6 separates itself from the class because of the engine. I know that sounds funny but thats how the R6 has always been, it's a bike that you wanna drive to the track and rip it out, it's not made for street riding. But street Rossi's like me are suckers for ripping it out anyways, so we go for the R6) Bad Facts: > As a 5'11 feet tall guy I still cant flat foot both my feet at the same time, I only have about half an inch clearence to the ground to flat foot, but dammn thats high... > The seat is drop dead ass, I sat wrong for like 30 minutes and my lower hip hurt like hell for 3 days straight up (I'm 18 btw.... I shouldnt be having that issue, there's something really wrong with that seat.. I will put on a cushiony seat cover soon.) > The riding position is definitely aggressive, you have to be tucked in at all the times, you sit normally for 5 minutes straight and ur arm and hips hurt. U also have to sit all the way back on the seat, cant take the tank as a brace. So naturally when you're braking you always slide down. > There is no space for a normal handle bar phone mount, so you're basically sacrificing a steering dampener for a stem fork mount. > Also has a huge cat system which nullifies the sound a lot, to my taste its good, when I' sitting at traffic doesn't blow my ears, riding through my campus or taking her out from my garage it doesn't make much sound and disturb neighbours. But once you get above 8k rpm, you have that inline 4 singing and get a massive HP and Torque boost that u can almost feel like you've gone to a lower gear and started accelerating. It's bonkers! > But will I leave that cat system on? NO!! next thing I'm buying an M4 y-pipe cat eliminator and taking the y-pipe off. Because loud pipes save lives, I experienced it on my 3rd day of riding when a guy almost cut me off to get in my lane and I pulled the clutch in and revved up my engine cause my horn sounds like a baby cry and no one can hear it. He got scared and moved back and said sorry,I said it was fine and were both good. That made me a believer of loud pipes save lives. > Even tho it has LED lights as stock, they don't illuminate much of your surroundings so you might want after market bulbs. > The mirros are fairly decent, doesn't compensate the visibility for how huge those mirrors are.... Oh my god those mirrors look terrible... > The fender eliminator kits cost a lot and as usual the fender looks bad... Good Facts: > It Revs Up To About A 100k RPM. Like, for real tho, it revs upto 16.5k rpm and it's just insane putting it at one of the worlds highest revving motorcycle engines. You know what else revs that high? An F1 car engine. Yeah even the F1 cars only rev about 15k. This monstrosity revs upto 16.5k LET THAT SINK IN BOIIS. This machine was never made for the street, you sit on it and you know for sure this is a (mini) demon on chains on the road. Also on highways you can short shift the bike and it would compensate for it by revving higher and gives the bike more acceleration to get out of potentially hazard situations. > Low and really manageable torque at lower rpms enable you to ride in rain or traffic with no problem even if you are fairly inexperienced rider. > Really smooth throttle response. > Power slowly builds up to > Wow this is soo lame it must be a 300cc > aah thats good > Thats it, thats the sweet spot > wait whats happening?? > Oh shit > HOLY MOTHER OF R6!!!!. Jokes aside its power is super linear and super handle-able. > The brakes... The damn brakes... Did I mention the brakes? Sweet mother of Rossi those brakes are good!!! > Suspension is stiff and you have to stand on pegs for every small bump, but it lets you corner sooo precise like its an R1. You look there, you go there. You don't look there? Don't worry you will still be there. That's how precise it is. > You put regular fuel in, it behaves like a well trained horse. You put 91 or above, it behaves like a Pegasus with steroids. Truly amazing how the whole feel of the bike changes. You've got horse power everywhere... > I mean have u looked at it? JUST UGGGHHH THEM CURVESSS!!! Best lookin 600 imo, I compared it side by side in the dealership with every other 600. Damn its hot. zx-6r just looks like a glorified 400 now, crb600rr - eww those headlights..., gsxr 600 is a really good bike but r6 looks better and is way slim compared to that. > It also has a sweet sound that's unique to the Yamaha (Not the crossplane crankshaft, we all know r6 doesn't have it lol), also happen to be one of my fav motogp teams. Don't get me wrong the 2009 cbr600rr is still the best looking bike imo. But for this market, R6 wins. > The seat and handle bars, once you get used to the sitting position, I cannot say how comfortable I feel now, it almost feels like I'm sleeping on the bike and it's a good position atleast for me, because I happen to be almost the exact height as their target audience? > Removing the fairings and seats are fairly and very easy, to get to most parts you only ever need to remove 2 or less fairings and it makes life pretty comfy. > They have some really sick mods for the bike, so it could be a ricer's haven, like I said, ricer's haven not a modder's haven. Because most mods are only cosmetic for this bike unlike the gsxr or the kawi. That's some of my experiences, hope they helped you. If you have any questions about the bike specific ones, riding gear, mods or riding experience, I'll be happy to answer them for you :D
Snowii Kat Eyy no man, 300's are nice my fav bike is still my RC390. My opinions changed from when I posted this! Just wanna say, my friend who's a god at riding could beat me any day on a 300. It's the rider not the bike!
@@lemon5501 so long story short, r6 is better to start with cause of it's "meh" power on lower rpm? it's forgiving somehow and you won't be scared of it unless you reach 8k above rpm right? can you explain what it really feels when your on like 5k or 6k rpm? is it really run like a 300 as you say?
Silent Shift Nof really man, the reality is that it's still a 600. You need tremendous amount of control and patience to learn on a 600, especially if it's new and has unbroken tyres. You will fall trust me, I almost did 2 times cause I lost my rear grip. Unless you can like ride a 300 to it's limit, don't get a 600. But if you live in a country like USA then get a 600, if you live in UK get a 300 or a country like India? Get a 125 that's enough! It really depends on the kind of roads. Like I can't take a 1000cc into Indian roads and expect to cross 3k rpm in first gear even on highways lmao!
The 636 has power modes, F for full and L for low, though for L mode low end power remains the same but after 8000rpm it is limited to around 80% max power and has a smoother throttle response
I have a 2017 cbr600rr. I love it! I find it hard to understand why so many people think its ugly... but each to ther own! The design of the fairings and front end of the bike are inspired by the RC211V. This model cbr600rr has had great success in the isle man TT. And yes im a Honda fanboy..
I have the 06 600rr and i love it..The engine from honda is the most reliable one...thr underseat exhaust kills it...Hondas engine is the most refined .
Actually, I think your evaluations were fair and while not completely comprehensive, you covered all the necessary details that most of us a concerned about. I think it’s also fair to say that looks are subjective, beauty is in the eye of the beholder! That being said, some will argue certain points out of bias for a particular brand. At the end of the day, what I boils down to is which would you buy? As you said, you like the Kawi, me I’d buy the Yamaha.....
I have a 2008 600RR too, but in my opinion the new generation looks timeless and awesome, reminiscent of the old 900RR Fireblade. I love the '' camaro'' headlights, and the shape of the fairings, especially in red looking like an older Ducati Superbike. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but to say that it looks ugly is a bit harsh I think.
Kristian G, I initially didn't like it but it's grown on me. Now I feel the same way but I'd remove the decals from the red one and design new ones. Problem is that it lacks "bang for the buck" - it's as basic as it can be.
If the 2007-2012 CBRs had a 636, 675 or 750 etc.. I would already have one. I think Honda nailed it on those body models. Best looking tank-shape to seat and the windscreen framed out to the top. *with the exception of the fairing plastic engine-covers which can be swapped. Even when dated the CBRs have a look that warrants "collector status" imo.
I'm shocked at just how alike we think. When I got my bike, I sat on all 4 of these as well. I compared all the same things, and ended up buying a 2017 ZX6R. Great choice - Absolutely no regrets. However, you were incorrect in saying that it does not have power modes. It does at least have Full or Low, which limits you to about 75-80%.
Nonooohlii, how do you like it, I’m thinkin about getting one here soon, you can do acouple things to that r6 motor to bring the low end where it’s more responsive, I had to do it to my old 2008 r6, but other than that I’m diggin the new r6, hope I like it as much as I did my 08
I love my 2019 R6. I have always been a Yamaha guy and the 2017 up models just look amazing! No other looks compare to it. This is my 7th Yamaha bike. I have loved each and every one of them. It’s easy to ride at lower rpms even for a beginner but once you hit the 8-10k rpm range you better have some experience. If you are just starting out my advice would be to shift before the 8-10k range and take it easy, you’ll be just fine but man this thing really really comes alive in that range. It feels kinda like you switch engines as each k of rpm rises and the handling of this bike is second to none. Short curvy roads without long straights and even the R1 won’t keep up if you are truly riding this bike right. The handling and precision is truly on a different level than even the R1. When you do decide to wind it out then really wind it. You will think you need to shift that you are going to hurt the engine but I promise you that you won’t. Run it to 16k+, engine will be just fine. Like I said, if starting out take it easy at first you’ll be fine...get in the 8-10k+ range on rpm’s and your ass better hang on!
every time I look for 600cc comparisons this video keeps popping up, and it really shouldn't because an armchair expert's advice is pointless to everyone
750 MASTER RACE. I just bought a 2017 GSX-R 750 and I honestly don't think there is a bike I'd rather have. The value is incredible, it has way more than enough power for street riding, it's low to the ground (I'm 5' 6"), and the stock exhaust note is only bested by liter bikes. The entire bike looks absolutely flawless except for that god awful cyclops headlight but, to be completely honest, it's grown on me a lot. I'm absolutely in love with this bike and to anyone debating whether to buy a liter bike or a supersport, do yourself a huge favor and choose the 750 supersport. You'll be so glad you did. It's a light and nimble 600 chassis with a much faster 750cc engine. Unless you're a highly skilled rider who takes their bike to the track often, you have absolutely no need for a liter bike because your rider skill has to be exceptional to ever come close to using a liter bike's potential and it's the furthest thing from suitable for the street. Not to mention the boat loads of money you'll save on insurance each month. Just some friendly advice to anyone deciding on which supersport bike to buy. The 750 is the king.
I respect how knowledgeable he obviously is and the information is detailed but to casually give the disclaimer that he has never rode these bikes is significant to say the least.
without giving up too much personal information I will let you know that basically, my job consists of riding all types of motorcycles. this video is great for the features. but actually looking into what makes each bike so unique is most important. 1. the Yamaha R6 has the best power band and the best pedigree. every other 600 was a street bike that brought to the track. the R6 is the only race bike that brought a bike to the street. so it is going to be the most aggressive but its because of its great lineage. Also yamaha was voted the most reliable bike of the year for last 6 years. 2. the Honda CBR600RR is lacking in power, but it is the best-balanced bike, with its weight being north of 400lbs, but it doesn't feel like it. handles great in the corners, and is the best 600 for dailying. 3. the ninja has a great lineage as well but as good as the Yamaha, Kawi doesnt update their bikes and only follows the same thing the other companies do, like a little brother following its big brother around. 4. GSXR Bros. ugliest bike, least amount of power throughout the rev range, and Suzuki's depreciate the most which is why you can buy a 1-year-old GSXR for like $4k to $5k under the MSRP. this is my opinion and i love that you covered alot of what i said but i think there are other "street factors" that need to be takin into consideration.
About 6 months ago, my wife purchased her brand new Kawasaki ZX6R 636 ABS KRT edition with all dealer options (race ECU, race exhaust, etc...) for a grand total of $10,390 (tax, tag, title, and dealer fees included). They even offered her the first 5 services for free.... The Kawasaki dealership in Tampa, FL is awesome!!! That is the third motorcycle we have bought from them, and each time they have been awesome.
And the irony is that Kawasaki has better streetbikes in that range. In the 636's price range you have both the Ninja 1000 (which is both faster and more comfortable than the 636) and the Versys 1000 (which is a LOT more comfortable and still nearly as fast). Then you have the Z900 which is just as fast as the 636, more comfortable and a LOT cheaper. And all 3 of these bikes have a lot more low/mid range power than the 636.
On public roads, honestly, the 650 is nicer to ride. 600 super sports aren't the greatest of road bikes. Great on a track though. I have a Versys 650 myself and honestly I prefer the torquier powerband of the twin for street riding. Can still get some nice big lean angles in the corners.
The other nice part of a 650 vs a super sport is you can actually use the power on road without getting into too much trouble. You get on it hard on a super sport and you're going to be doing triple digit speeds very quickly. On a 650 you can get on it pretty hard and not be going too crazy fast and a 300 or 400 you can absolutely wail on.
I was surprised a few months ago after my curiosity lead me to cycle-ergo dot com. Not sure of their accuracy but the rider triangle of the zx6r (2013- ) is close to the Honda CBR600rr (2009 - 2012) which we know is ergo-friendly. The 636 has a slight 2 degree more bend in the knee and 1 degree LESS crouch with hip and both the same degree of forward lean. Your measurements may be different. The ConvertiBars offer a dial-in for trips and even adjustable rear sets if needed. These bikes are mod-able if inclined.
James Farrar zx6r is the best street choice. R6 only good for the track. Uncomfortable on your wrists and handlebars vibrates way too much at high rpm.
Absolute Zero Congrats on that purchase. I actually want the 636 over a liter bike. I compared the stats with my CB1000r and other than a little less torque, the Ninja seems awesome. I'm gonna test ride first. Are you coming from a liter bike? I love the CB btw but I'm stuck on the 636 engine and want more of a racing position.
Not gonna lie the first super sport I saw was a 2006 r6 when I was a little kid, and I was instantly in love and they still to this day are my absolute favorite
It's funny because when you were listing the bikes my first thought was none of them. The GSXR 750 is quite possibly the best bang for your buck on the market today. Basically liter bike power with the weight and size of a 600. I'll be trading my GSXR 1000 in on a 750 sometime next spring.
I own a 2009 cbr 600rr limited edition wouldnt change it for anything love the undertail exhaust was one of the buying points for me Great vid loved it
when you started the video and said that you will rank them over your own opinion I was like WHAT ! but I the video kept going with me enjoying the way that you did it :) although I love Yamaha but almost everything that you said is correct and I say almost because I only know a thing or two, specially the Suzuki I don't like it and never was interested in watching or reading any reviews about it. But overall the Video is amazingly nice and enjoyable,,,,Keep Up the Good work and will be looking forward for new idea's
Loved my 2008 CBR600RR in 2008 I was 20! Looks the best. Orange and black! The exhaust under the seat is amazing! My next SS bike must have under tail exhaust!
zx6r all the way! I originally wanted an r6 but the features the kawi offered were too good to pass up. and it came with shorty levers, race rails, an m4 3/4 exhaust. I honestly don't know what more I could ask for to already be on my bike.
I would put the Suzuki on 2nd place for the simple reason of usability. The R6 may seam better on paper, but if you're not taking it to the track, it's not really at home. The GSXR600 is actually most suited for street riding, and though i agree the Kawasaki is Nr 1 her, the Suzuki deserves 2nd (in my opinion)
I'll never get tired of the Naked Shoot outs...pls do that next. This was a nice video to watch. I had to remind myself at some point that you haven't ridden any of them. Very detailed and fair comparison. Thanks
I have a 2005 gsxr 750 and I love it! I dont know why more companies dont make 750 super bikes, it's the perfect balance of power and still being able to manage it alot better then a liter bike.
I've owned 3 of the 4. All except the GSXR600. I'd still have my 2012 R6 to this day if it hadn't been stolen. I sold the 2012 ninja - I wasn't as attached to it as I was the R6. I finally got another bike almost 10 years later and went with the 2021 CBR600RR. I couldn't be happier. I prefer the looks of this generation CBR as opposed to the older ones. The only other CBR I want is the 2008 Graffiti edition. I'll go hunting for one soon. Update now in August of 2023. I added a GSXR600 to my garage. It's such a great bike too!
Bryantrincon413 FAM Yamaha and Honda king of reliability. Honda maybe with the slight edge. Followed slightly by Suzuki then lastly Kawasaki. All of the major 4 Japanese brands are all pretty reliable though.
Oh, reliability is easy Excellent, but not idiot proof, all four of them. If you want to get pedantic, Kawasaki is the worst (by so little it hardly matters), Suzuki 3rd, and the CBR and YZF will last forever since they say honda and Yamaha on them respectively so long as you don't do anything real stupid like take it into an ORV park or remove the rev limiter
In the reliability department, it is Yamaha in # one spot, with Suzuki and Honda tied in number 2 spot. And even then, there is only a marginal difference between number 1 spot and number 2. Kawasaki is in 3rd spot. All 4 bikes are the most reliable bikes out there.
I guess it's personal preferences , but I fell in love with the CBR600RR new look since 2013. I think it's the prettiest behind the R6. Definitely turns heads around , specially the tri-color version.
Hello, 2017 R6 here. An amazing bike! It may not have good torque below 8 but still an amazing bike and I have beat every bike, even the 636 on mine.... just sayin.
I owned a 2005 R6 and loved everything about it EXCEPT the uncomfortable seat and riding position, height, and poor low end power. I just bought a 2009 R6 and am so in love with its look 😍
Honda CBR 600RR model 2013 is beautiful, sharp - aggressive front and with Respol colour looks like million $, and also important thing -big piston fork + much better aerodynamics vs PC40. Another point is handling - Honda number 1.
If you argue like this you could start the production of the fzr 600 engine (this is basically the model before the r6 from the 90s) because like you said it isn't broken...
Then I guess we should still be using flip phones because it ain’t broke let’s not fix it or update. So close minded. Just because it’s just enough to get it done doesn’t mean it does a good job at it.
At the end of the video he said traction control and stuff is not really needed for a bike of such class (750) but in earlier parts of the video he rated bikes based upon their electronics for a much lower class of bikes. LOGIC!
I still agree that the r6 won In features but the Zx6r does have power modes as well as a fuel calculator and 2 trip monitors. I own one and its pretty easy to keep track of when I'm going to be low on gas soon, I've also had the chance to ride them all and one of the reasons I went with the kawa was because of how comfortable it was when actually riding.
I love my 2019 zx6r. Edit my bike came stock with a quick shifter and a fuel Guage and traction control and other power modes in 5'5" and it is very manageable
Hey! My ZX6R actually won a test lol. It’s funny because I bought the bike for all the reasons you listed. Most powerful, comfortable for me, and most importantly, it is a very good looking bike, second only to the Yamaha which unfortunately was about $3,000 more. I am very happy with my Zaki.
scion46 no one can tell you if a bike is safe or not it all depends on the rider (but obviously lower cc bikes are more forgiving).. I personally started on a 2009 Zx6r about a year ago & I’m loving it
Know it's late to respond but as a 2014 GSXR600 owner, just wanted to say the power mode options mentioned in video are the 1000's, the 600 has a A mode and B mode, so full power and then B is less responsive so let's call this rain or school zones. The comfort is great, and nothing disappointing about it. I was on way to buy a 2016 (the current year of purchase) gsxr750, when at the door they had a brand new 2 year old 600 never owned or ridden just didnt sell sitting there, the 4000.00 price drop was enough to switch my mind, coming off of a zx7r, the weight lose was awesome, user friendly, and power of a 600 is not boring rarely given the room to go over 260kph anyways. Suzuki is pretty nice to work with, so as all these bikes are close it's much like buying a car, if the dealership isnt good where you are, a second choice pick maybe better in long run.
Great breakdown! I believe every bike has its own unique group of riders and I'm R6 or die guy being a racer but I will say to any rider looking at buying a 600cc bike today the 636 is the way to go. Unless you're hitting the track or canyons daily the R6 won't do much for you besides look good. The GSXR is a good bike for shorter riders, and the CBR to be honest has fallen completely off a cliff and serves no real need or want that the other bikes can't fill. It's sad after the amazing bike they produced 03-08.
Chicago R6 on the other hand,the r6 is nice because you dont have alot of power under 8k rpm,which makes it more preferable for daily riding and traffic as opposed to the 636 which has alot more low mid torque and leaves you dealing with the throttle
It is wild how much horsepower and performance they get out 600s. I can remember when you didn't dare get on the highway or go for any distance on anything smaller than 750cc. But these bikes today you can hop on and go coast to coast as fast as you dare without limitation like the old days!! I ride a 919 HORNET but would like to pick up a 600 to play with. As far as zipping around you can't beat them.
1. cbr 2. ninja 3. r6 4. gsxr i honestly just think the honda is sexy af ESPECIALLY with the under tail exhaust. i think if youre going with a 600, comfortable and sexy should be the most important categories and worth the most points. when the other stuff starts to matter, it's time for a liter bike. just my opinion. loved the vid
Hey Hero, I have a question. Why do you ride supersport? Many would say they're not ideal street bikes, but yet you love them. cyclecruza touched on the subject, but since you really know your bikes and have something to say about everything, I'd love to hear your two cents.
Nick Belanger For the same reason some prefer a small cramped sports car and not a big comfy, roomy suv. Supersports and not the most comfortable bikes, but they do provide a adrenaline filled rush when you crack that throttle open. Of course speed isn't everything, since they also have the best suspension for handling and cornering from any other class bikes. Looks. Just like sports cars, sport bikes look badass. Alot of sport bike riders don't even take the time to really "know" their bikes and what they can actually do. Vanity. Some people just like to look "cool". Personally, i love sports bikes. My last bike was a zx6r (shameless plug- i have a few videos on my channel). I used it for both commuting and long trips (many trips to mexico - again, videos on my channel =D). Once you get used to the ergonomics, its actually not that bad comfort wise. Now, all that being said, for the moment ive moved away from the super sport class and currently ride a ninja 650r. For my current uses, it fits my needs. It has a much better and comfortable riding position, way better low end torque, better fuel efficiency, and simply a lower cost to maintain. Hope i helped answer your question, and keep in mind, anything on two wheels is a blast to ride 🏍
Sport bike around town only can be hard on the wrists. Get above 60mph and the wind in your chest lightens the pressure on your wrists. Because of this I find at faster speeds this is the better riding position for me. Besides all the other reasons for a sport bike, I really want the performance for the fun of it and it is safer in the right hands to have the handling brakes and ability to accelerate out of trouble quickly on the road. Problem is the acceleration can get you into trouble too. You really have to think to stay safe.
My daily was an 03 ZX6R for a long time(over 30,000 miles in 2 years) and while it wasn't the most optimal its just so much dam fun. I can always count on it to give me a rush after a dull day at work. Way more than enough power but not as insane as a 1k so you get the fun of revving it out, and absolutely eats up the twisties. There is something really great about getting off work and being able to head straight for the mountains for a fun time.
For the best engine on the street I chose gsxr600 with early torque and the sound of intake make you feel like riding 1000cc I had 03 Cbr600rr and 07 zx6r in the past
L E G E N D! Great commentary and great audio mixing. Really professional production quality. Looks like a lot of manpower and money went into producing this video. Hope you're earning from this.
I earn a little but mainly i do it as a hobby. Thank you so much for the comment! I worked really hard on this video so it’s always nice to get some recognition. Thanks again brother!
Samuel K. Don’t get a bike until you’re over 20. Thank me after you see the estimated insurance rates. This is coming from experience. I’m extremely glad I started on a ninja 650 instead of a 250/300/400 and waited until I was 22. My insurance is literally $48 a month for full coverage. It woulda been way higher when I was 18.
The 2017 R6 also has the front suspension and brakes from the R1. The brake rotors are 10mm larger. It also has a quick shifter. They said they would be limited to the first 500 sold or whatever, but I'm yet to see one that didn't have it. And believe me, it makes a huge difference.
HeroRR I do agree with you about the looks of GSX-R, I really do loved the looks and headlights of 08 GSX-R than the 2011 and up models, but 2011 also looks good in side view except the headlights, Yamaha R6 3rd Generation is the best looking R6 for me, 2009 Black Raven or Blue ones. CBR I liked the 2007 Repsol Edition, new models looks really bad. Well we exactly have the same taste when it comes to look.
It is subjective but at the beginning if this decade all the superbikes had a similar hawk like profile. The zx6r retained that up to 2018 and the R6 sort of kept it yet lost it and gained a forehead or predator look. People who loved the looks for a long time might be put off a little by the new looks of the cbr and r6
Just a few more years, depends on where you live ,if in America some place allows you ride at age 16, but in CA 18. Basically senior year ,and better if you start off kindergarten 1 year late so by senior year you can ride one for sure or junior. I recommend ninja 300, r3, suzuki sv 650, yamaha fz7, suzuki gsx500f and my personal favorite is 2005-2008 suzuki gsx650f, it's a lower power of a gsxr 600 engine, but still 70hp is still a handful. The pros are, 1 cheaper insurance 2, same great in line 4 screaming sound, 3 planty power, 4 a full body fairings. Cons are insurance is still above a 300 for sure, 2 420 lbs is not light. If I have to start over again I would either keep my 05 ninja 250r or suzuki gsx650f. Now I'm able to max out the performance of a 250-300 bikes, now I'm able to carry out a tap above 100 mph exit speed out of a nice corner. Trust me is way more fun to ride a less powerful bike fast than bigger bike slow, even a ninja 300 has the same 0-60 as mid 2000s mustang gt or wrx sti, or any mid range sport car, but you can corner harder on a bike, On a bigger bike like 1000 it takes time and courage to learn corner hard, I learn knee drag on my 2nd bike 07 ninja zx10r, I took it very slow to learn it, so I don't crash and feel bad. I buses you like sport bike, but if not any 250cc to 800cc other categories bike are good for beginners. 800 advantrures bike is heavy and tall though, 800cc cruiser is a good option.
Kawaii Ninja thanks for taking the time to write all this I appreciate it and i live in Australia in the city i live in you need to be 18 years old to ride a motorcycle, the motorcycle i have in mind are the ninja 600 and the R6 Yamha white and red cause these bikes are the most that i liked they are more powerful for a beginning ride but i would learn to handle it I don’t want to start on a 300 or low cc bike because i will get board of it real fast and thanks for the bikes that you wrote i will look on them thanks a lot man
Don’t stop believing, no matter what your parents tell you of how unsafe it is. Keep believing. I’m 15 and that’s what they keep doing to me lmao 😂. But, the overall feeling of riding bikes is just amazing.
Siaminati Curry I don’t know if I’m lucky but i told my parents that i want to buy a motorcycle first they said it is dangerous then they said you can buy it i was happy none of my family had or have a bike I’m gonna be the first one they even will buy me a dirt bike to learn about riding a little bit
The gsxr has an electronic steering damper, power modes, most comfortable adjustable rear sets that you didn’t mention , brembo breaks and you actually have to know how to ride it. It misses out on abs and traction control but that’s what makes you a better rider down the road not to mention the colors. I think you were a tiny bit too critical
Yes. Kawi wins yea no need to argue here! I’m a Kawasaki guy and will never buy another brand. I did own BMW I do love S1000RR but never will I buy another brand But Kawi.
I mean i too love Kawasaki but u know... u only have one chance at life... why not try all there is out there? Why isolate urself from change?... getting out of ur comfort zone is the only way to mature... this applies to bikes too... get out of ur comfort zone riding only kawis and get to ride a yamaha or an aprilia... any bike... ull come to love all bikes and mature as a motorcyclist...
Have a 2012 600rr w/30k miles, thinking about changing to current gsxr600. Honda just isn’t fun imo and I ride a lot, not enough power unless you go high In powerband. It’s not really about the $ for me, but just want something fun. I hear a lot of good things about the gsxr and see a lot of them as well. Please chime in, would love to hear your thoughts??
dude im the same height and I have a r6 which is the tallest out off all of them its horrible lol but like you said we ant goanna lower it cus were not a bitch I low kew wanna get a gixxer tho
I have the exact opposite issue I'm 6'2" and my backs too long to be comfortable on my VFR i end up having to hunch until i hit the highway and can let the wind hold me up
It's honestly sad, that whenever a comparison like this comes out, it's always the predicable Japanese squad that lines up. Gixxer, cbr, R6, Ninja.. Like, in the entire world, that's the complete list of bikes in this class, which is crazy when you think about it. Can't count in the Daytona or the MV F675 because of their increase in price, they are kinda in their own little bubble.. What I really wanna know is, where is KTM in this? Where is BMW? Where is literally every other manufacturer? Yes the whole naked bike craze is over us and "600 dont sell anymore".. well then make them 750 instead I don't care. I'd much rather have a light and nimble small supersport, than a 1000 with too much power for city and country roads anyways + that hefty price tag and insurance. Hell, I'd even settle with a sub 600cc supersport, as long as they are engaging and fun to whip around. So sad that the only real faired bikes in this category, are all the 650cc sports tourers. Just imagine a reinterpreted KTM RC8, but in the 600 league, how mad would that be? Or a BMW S600RR ? Maybe an Aprilia RSV600? What about a Ducati 700 supersport, renew the old brand name (and not stick it on a sports tourer, but an actual supersport). So much potential, and no one have the balls to go for that market :'c
The issue is that R&D of 600cc & 1000cc is more less same but profit on the bike is huge difference, From business view 600 Super Sport is not working but i am agreed with you i would love to see BMW, Ducati in this segment too.
Laki29 that's true, but mainly due to 600 bikes having reached their pinnacle of performance with the restrictions that are in place by emissions standards etc. 1000 bikes are still going forward in terms of power and engine characteristics, so there is more to gain with the same R&D, and as you say the earnings are higher on those bikes. However, 600 bikes appeal to a broader market so in theory it should be possible to sell more of them than 1000 bikes, it's just that development is so limited now that people just stick with existing bikes because new ones don't offer enough development to justify the price of a new bike.
I started out being a rabid Kawasaki fan (H2, Z1, original GPz, Ninja) they've always kicked butt and took names in the performance catagory. Yamaha stole my heart with the ground breaking tech and great looks of the FZ750 and later YZF R1. I was hoping the R6 would win as I have owned 2 of them which were both amazing bikes.... but I do have a place in my heart for Kawasaki. Kawasaki has always been the bad boy on the block, a bit rough around the edges who stole your lunch money and then threw your books and homework in the mud.
I'm not a brand loyal sort of guy, but I can't help but feel like Suzuki is going to die out soon. Where Yamaha and Kawasaki have both been innovating heavily in the sport and naked bike scenes and Honda has been killing it with the older crowds with the Africa twin and goldwing, Suzuki just sort of tags along. They're entire line up from the busa all the way down to their dual sports are all decades old tech. I feel like they've fallen so far behind that the only reason they're at all relevant is because they're relatively inexpensive.
You bring up some great points. One segment I think they are killing though is the non-HD, affordable cruiser market. Specifically the M90 and the 109R. Both of those are A LOT of bike for the $
They sell a lot of Vstroms and cruisers. The 600 class it’s what is really dying, thanks to Euro 4, think this is bad because 600s are my favorite motorcycles. I currently ride on a Yamaha FZ6, has very good power (94 hp) and is confortable for the street.
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R6 is best looking bike for me ...
Nick Vielbig it look awesome form the front as well...... Anyway it's about personal preference. ..... I don't like the engine though
Yea its elegant
Yeah can't wait to get my 2009ish r6 when I upgraded in a year or so
I agree.. r6 gsxr6 zx6r cbr6 on that order
agree, by far !
Hey everyone, I wanted to try something new with this video. Whether you like it or hate it please let me know so I know what kind of content to make in the future. This video is way longer than I liked but I wanted it to be complete. Hopefully this will prove useful as a buying guide for anyone who's in the market for a brand new 600cc sport bike.
Make a supermoto or dual sport category
HeroRR loved it mate ...
Nice Edits
Yea buddy my white 2008 still looks better than all the new bikes
HeroRR I know you own a couple of Honda’s, mine is a 2013 Honda CB1000R naked bike with lots of mods and personal ques. I love Honda’s build quality, but they lack some of the things that draw us toward other bikes. More power for one, but I can’t wait to see the new 2018 CB1000R up close and personal!
"I've sat on all of them, but I haven't ridden any of them. Here's what you should do." Nah man. Nah.
Thank you.
Right Lmao so it’s like how can you give a actual opinion
Imagine saying that shit and thinking the video you made holds ANY Weight....
When he said that I actually had to rewind just to double check if I heard right... :)
And he named this video "The Best 600cc Sport Bike for 2018 (Buyer's Guide)"? C'mon man !
I thought the same exact thing like what? Lol
As an owner of an 2018 R6 I can tell you some facts:
(Edit: I'd also like to point out the fact that R6 separates itself from the class because of the engine. I know that sounds funny but thats how the R6 has always been, it's a bike that you wanna drive to the track and rip it out, it's not made for street riding. But street Rossi's like me are suckers for ripping it out anyways, so we go for the R6)
Bad Facts:
> As a 5'11 feet tall guy I still cant flat foot both my feet at the same time, I only have about half an inch clearence to the ground to flat foot, but dammn thats high...
> The seat is drop dead ass, I sat wrong for like 30 minutes and my lower hip hurt like hell for 3 days straight up (I'm 18 btw.... I shouldnt be having that issue, there's something really wrong with that seat.. I will put on a cushiony seat cover soon.)
> The riding position is definitely aggressive, you have to be tucked in at all the times, you sit normally for 5 minutes straight and ur arm and hips hurt. U also have to sit all the way back on the seat, cant take the tank as a brace. So naturally when you're braking you always slide down.
> There is no space for a normal handle bar phone mount, so you're basically sacrificing a steering dampener for a stem fork mount.
> Also has a huge cat system which nullifies the sound a lot, to my taste its good, when I' sitting at traffic doesn't blow my ears, riding through my campus or taking her out from my garage it doesn't make much sound and disturb neighbours. But once you get above 8k rpm, you have that inline 4 singing and get a massive HP and Torque boost that u can almost feel like you've gone to a lower gear and started accelerating. It's bonkers!
> But will I leave that cat system on? NO!! next thing I'm buying an M4 y-pipe cat eliminator and taking the y-pipe off. Because loud pipes save lives, I experienced it on my 3rd day of riding when a guy almost cut me off to get in my lane and I pulled the clutch in and revved up my engine cause my horn sounds like a baby cry and no one can hear it. He got scared and moved back and said sorry,I said it was fine and were both good. That made me a believer of loud pipes save lives.
> Even tho it has LED lights as stock, they don't illuminate much of your surroundings so you might want after market bulbs.
> The mirros are fairly decent, doesn't compensate the visibility for how huge those mirrors are.... Oh my god those mirrors look terrible...
> The fender eliminator kits cost a lot and as usual the fender looks bad...
Good Facts:
> It Revs Up To About A 100k RPM. Like, for real tho, it revs upto 16.5k rpm and it's just insane putting it at one of the worlds highest revving motorcycle engines. You know what else revs that high? An F1 car engine. Yeah even the F1 cars only rev about 15k. This monstrosity revs upto 16.5k LET THAT SINK IN BOIIS. This machine was never made for the street, you sit on it and you know for sure this is a (mini) demon on chains on the road. Also on highways you can short shift the bike and it would compensate for it by revving higher and gives the bike more acceleration to get out of potentially hazard situations.
> Low and really manageable torque at lower rpms enable you to ride in rain or traffic with no problem even if you are fairly inexperienced rider.
> Really smooth throttle response.
> Power slowly builds up to > Wow this is soo lame it must be a 300cc > aah thats good > Thats it, thats the sweet spot > wait whats happening?? > Oh shit > HOLY MOTHER OF R6!!!!. Jokes aside its power is super linear and super handle-able.
> The brakes... The damn brakes... Did I mention the brakes? Sweet mother of Rossi those brakes are good!!!
> Suspension is stiff and you have to stand on pegs for every small bump, but it lets you corner sooo precise like its an R1. You look there, you go there. You don't look there? Don't worry you will still be there. That's how precise it is.
> You put regular fuel in, it behaves like a well trained horse. You put 91 or above, it behaves like a Pegasus with steroids. Truly amazing how the whole feel of the bike changes. You've got horse power everywhere...
> I mean have u looked at it? JUST UGGGHHH THEM CURVESSS!!! Best lookin 600 imo, I compared it side by side in the dealership with every other 600. Damn its hot. zx-6r just looks like a glorified 400 now, crb600rr - eww those headlights..., gsxr 600 is a really good bike but r6 looks better and is way slim compared to that.
> It also has a sweet sound that's unique to the Yamaha (Not the crossplane crankshaft, we all know r6 doesn't have it lol), also happen to be one of my fav motogp teams. Don't get me wrong the 2009 cbr600rr is still the best looking bike imo. But for this market, R6 wins.
> The seat and handle bars, once you get used to the sitting position, I cannot say how comfortable I feel now, it almost feels like I'm sleeping on the bike and it's a good position atleast for me, because I happen to be almost the exact height as their target audience?
> Removing the fairings and seats are fairly and very easy, to get to most parts you only ever need to remove 2 or less fairings and it makes life pretty comfy.
> They have some really sick mods for the bike, so it could be a ricer's haven, like I said, ricer's haven not a modder's haven. Because most mods are only cosmetic for this bike unlike the gsxr or the kawi.
That's some of my experiences, hope they helped you. If you have any questions about the bike specific ones, riding gear, mods or riding experience, I'll be happy to answer them for you :D
This description is everything how I feel about my 2019 R6! Well done
Why you hating on 300s? wtf
Snowii Kat Eyy no man, 300's are nice my fav bike is still my RC390. My opinions changed from when I posted this! Just wanna say, my friend who's a god at riding could beat me any day on a 300. It's the rider not the bike!
@@lemon5501 so long story short, r6 is better to start with cause of it's "meh" power on lower rpm? it's forgiving somehow and you won't be scared of it unless you reach 8k above rpm right? can you explain what it really feels when your on like 5k or 6k rpm? is it really run like a 300 as you say?
Silent Shift Nof really man, the reality is that it's still a 600. You need tremendous amount of control and patience to learn on a 600, especially if it's new and has unbroken tyres. You will fall trust me, I almost did 2 times cause I lost my rear grip. Unless you can like ride a 300 to it's limit, don't get a 600. But if you live in a country like USA then get a 600, if you live in UK get a 300 or a country like India? Get a 125 that's enough!
It really depends on the kind of roads. Like I can't take a 1000cc into Indian roads and expect to cross 3k rpm in first gear even on highways lmao!
I like how Yamaha put R6 on the tacho were 6000 rpms would be
Gsxr - ergonomics
Cbr - jack of all trade
R6 - looks 😍
Ninja - Power
R6 is for track, it has won so many competitions on track
The 636 has power modes, F for full and L for low, though for L mode low end power remains the same but after 8000rpm it is limited to around 80% max power and has a smoother throttle response
I have a 2017 cbr600rr. I love it! I find it hard to understand why so many people think its ugly... but each to ther own!
The design of the fairings and front end of the bike are inspired by the RC211V. This model cbr600rr has had great success in the isle man TT.
And yes im a Honda fanboy..
I love the look of the current CBR
I have the 06 600rr and i love it..The engine from honda is the most reliable one...thr underseat exhaust kills it...Hondas engine is the most refined .
I like the 2003 CBR600rr. Looks like the RC211V
Best headlights on any bike, period
I think it just looks old... they should update it and get some style cues from the cbr1000
hate to break it to you boys but the r6 isnt meant for the streets, sit on one and youll know
and that's a damn shame too.
Kinda glad I didn't get one, 636 is race-y enough for me in it's riding position etc.
That’s probably why people don’t prefer it as much. I want a bike that I can ride on the streets. Not a bike I can only ride on the track.
I commute it every day on it no problem like every sport bike it gets tiring but doesnt really bug me to much
I laugh when people say any super sport is for the street...
Actually, I think your evaluations were fair and while not completely comprehensive, you covered all the necessary details that most of us a concerned about. I think it’s also fair to say that looks are subjective, beauty is in the eye of the beholder! That being said, some will argue certain points out of bias for a particular brand. At the end of the day, what I boils down to is which would you buy? As you said, you like the Kawi, me I’d buy the Yamaha.....
Yeah for me the Kawi just made more sense as a street bike. The r6 is definitely a great bike which is why it got 2nd place :)
I have a 2008 600RR too, but in my opinion the new generation looks timeless and awesome, reminiscent of the old 900RR Fireblade. I love the '' camaro'' headlights, and the shape of the fairings, especially in red looking like an older Ducati Superbike. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but to say that it looks ugly is a bit harsh I think.
Kristian G, I initially didn't like it but it's grown on me. Now I feel the same way but I'd remove the decals from the red one and design new ones.
Problem is that it lacks "bang for the buck" - it's as basic as it can be.
That is an interesting way of looking at it. I guess saying it’s ugly is harsh. Its looks are better in different color graphics.
Yeah I think the Honda is the best looking. The Ninja looks outdated to me. Strange to me. The Ninja looks like the 2008 cbr
If the 2007-2012 CBRs had a 636, 675 or 750 etc.. I would already have one. I think Honda nailed it on those body models. Best looking tank-shape to seat and the windscreen framed out to the top. *with the exception of the fairing plastic engine-covers which can be swapped. Even when dated the CBRs have a look that warrants "collector status" imo.
I'm shocked at just how alike we think. When I got my bike, I sat on all 4 of these as well. I compared all the same things, and ended up buying a 2017 ZX6R. Great choice - Absolutely no regrets. However, you were incorrect in saying that it does not have power modes. It does at least have Full or Low, which limits you to about 75-80%.
It doesn’t have customizable power modes. I messed up. That’s what i meant though.
Nemy did you buy yours used or new? I’m looking into getting a ZX6R as well.
When I ride my new 2017 yzf-r6, I can't go through town with out someone taking picture of me. I feel like a celeb
Montenegrino X I agree hahaha
I just got one lol
Nonooohlii, how do you like it, I’m thinkin about getting one here soon, you can do acouple things to that r6 motor to bring the low end where it’s more responsive, I had to do it to my old 2008 r6, but other than that I’m diggin the new r6, hope I like it as much as I did my 08
I feel you bro 👍
@Joshua B You jealous bro??!!
I love my 2019 R6. I have always been a Yamaha guy and the 2017 up models just look amazing! No other looks compare to it. This is my 7th Yamaha bike. I have loved each and every one of them. It’s easy to ride at lower rpms even for a beginner but once you hit the 8-10k rpm range you better have some experience. If you are just starting out my advice would be to shift before the 8-10k range and take it easy, you’ll be just fine but man this thing really really comes alive in that range. It feels kinda like you switch engines as each k of rpm rises and the handling of this bike is second to none. Short curvy roads without long straights and even the R1 won’t keep up if you are truly riding this bike right. The handling and precision is truly on a different level than even the R1. When you do decide to wind it out then really wind it. You will think you need to shift that you are going to hurt the engine but I promise you that you won’t. Run it to 16k+, engine will be just fine. Like I said, if starting out take it easy at first you’ll be fine...get in the 8-10k+ range on rpm’s and your ass better hang on!
You should try the GSXR, best all round bikes made, by far.
i was at the dealership and felt in love with the zx6r saw the other models and wasn t impressed , and now i want that bike even more .
R6 won the styling for everybody else... best looking. period.
Actually R6 is the best looking. hands down.
Many people beg to differ, given that looks are subjective
I disagree, the previous generation R6 looked way better
Tabrez I think they are all beautiful
Gsxr is the best looking imo
The older gen looked better to me
Can you remake this video for 2019 models? Ready to get my new motorcycle
everything stands the same except the kawasaki now has different bodywork, and a quick shifter, everything else on every bike is the same
@@13mrtraxxas it also now costs 10k instead of 12.
Don't base your purchase off a single video. Do your research.
Dont ignore that the 2019 drops a tooth in the front sprocket so low rpm torque has been bumped up.
“I haven’t ridden any of them tho...” 😐
every time I look for 600cc comparisons this video keeps popping up, and it really shouldn't because an armchair expert's advice is pointless to everyone
Jeron Wong hes an arm chair expert but he rides..... okay.
Worthless video. He's just reading the specs.
I agree the Kawasaki is a beast, beautiful, and #1! I'm in the process of purchasing one
750 MASTER RACE. I just bought a 2017 GSX-R 750 and I honestly don't think there is a bike I'd rather have. The value is incredible, it has way more than enough power for street riding, it's low to the ground (I'm 5' 6"), and the stock exhaust note is only bested by liter bikes. The entire bike looks absolutely flawless except for that god awful cyclops headlight but, to be completely honest, it's grown on me a lot. I'm absolutely in love with this bike and to anyone debating whether to buy a liter bike or a supersport, do yourself a huge favor and choose the 750 supersport. You'll be so glad you did. It's a light and nimble 600 chassis with a much faster 750cc engine. Unless you're a highly skilled rider who takes their bike to the track often, you have absolutely no need for a liter bike because your rider skill has to be exceptional to ever come close to using a liter bike's potential and it's the furthest thing from suitable for the street. Not to mention the boat loads of money you'll save on insurance each month. Just some friendly advice to anyone deciding on which supersport bike to buy. The 750 is the king.
I agree. It's the best this side of a 1000. I love my 2013.
plz do this video for 1000cc bikes :) thank you
I second this
+1
I respect how knowledgeable he obviously is and the information is detailed but to casually give the disclaimer that he has never rode these bikes is significant to say the least.
without giving up too much personal information I will let you know that basically, my job consists of riding all types of motorcycles. this video is great for the features. but actually looking into what makes each bike so unique is most important.
1. the Yamaha R6 has the best power band and the best pedigree. every other 600 was a street bike that brought to the track. the R6 is the only race bike that brought a bike to the street. so it is going to be the most aggressive but its because of its great lineage. Also yamaha was voted the most reliable bike of the year for last 6 years.
2. the Honda CBR600RR is lacking in power, but it is the best-balanced bike, with its weight being north of 400lbs, but it doesn't feel like it. handles great in the corners, and is the best 600 for dailying.
3. the ninja has a great lineage as well but as good as the Yamaha, Kawi doesnt update their bikes and only follows the same thing the other companies do, like a little brother following its big brother around.
4. GSXR Bros. ugliest bike, least amount of power throughout the rev range, and Suzuki's depreciate the most which is why you can buy a 1-year-old GSXR for like $4k to $5k under the MSRP.
this is my opinion and i love that you covered alot of what i said but i think there are other "street factors" that need to be takin into consideration.
Info from riders always more reliable. Have two Yamaha's.
About 6 months ago, my wife purchased her brand new Kawasaki ZX6R 636 ABS KRT edition with all dealer options (race ECU, race exhaust, etc...) for a grand total of $10,390 (tax, tag, title, and dealer fees included). They even offered her the first 5 services for free.... The Kawasaki dealership in Tampa, FL is awesome!!! That is the third motorcycle we have bought from them, and each time they have been awesome.
How does she like the bike ? I was thinking of buying something similar.
this man know what he’s talking about
KAWASAKI ALL DAY EVERYDAY
And the irony is that Kawasaki has better streetbikes in that range. In the 636's price range you have both the Ninja 1000 (which is both faster and more comfortable than the 636) and the Versys 1000 (which is a LOT more comfortable and still nearly as fast). Then you have the Z900 which is just as fast as the 636, more comfortable and a LOT cheaper. And all 3 of these bikes have a lot more low/mid range power than the 636.
he's ONLY referring to the 600 CC class street bikes, why are you talking about something else?
I have a 2016 Kawasaki ninja 650. And I love it. I do wish I had a super sport but being only 18 insurance is a killer for me
On public roads, honestly, the 650 is nicer to ride. 600 super sports aren't the greatest of road bikes. Great on a track though. I have a Versys 650 myself and honestly I prefer the torquier powerband of the twin for street riding. Can still get some nice big lean angles in the corners.
The other nice part of a 650 vs a super sport is you can actually use the power on road without getting into too much trouble. You get on it hard on a super sport and you're going to be doing triple digit speeds very quickly. On a 650 you can get on it pretty hard and not be going too crazy fast and a 300 or 400 you can absolutely wail on.
I have the same colour Gsxr 600 l1 like the bike in the last seconds of this video. Just love it
Never been much of a Ninja fan but you've convinced me I should go for one now! R6 was always my first choice but not anymore. Cheers!
Hey you can’t go wrong with the r6 either! Thanks!
I was surprised a few months ago after my curiosity lead me to cycle-ergo dot com. Not sure of their accuracy but the rider triangle of the zx6r (2013- ) is close to the Honda CBR600rr (2009 - 2012) which we know is ergo-friendly.
The 636 has a slight 2 degree more bend in the knee and 1 degree LESS crouch with hip and both the same degree of forward lean. Your measurements may be different. The ConvertiBars offer a dial-in for trips and even adjustable rear sets if needed. These bikes are mod-able if inclined.
James Farrar zx6r is the best street choice. R6 only good for the track. Uncomfortable on your wrists and handlebars vibrates way too much at high rpm.
get an R6, I have one 2017 best nike I ever had and the looks mannnnnnn looks like a litter bike
Absolute Zero
Congrats on that purchase. I actually want the 636 over a liter bike. I compared the stats with my CB1000r and other than a little less torque, the Ninja seems awesome. I'm gonna test ride first. Are you coming from a liter bike? I love the CB btw but I'm stuck on the 636 engine and want more of a racing position.
Not gonna lie the first super sport I saw was a 2006 r6 when I was a little kid, and I was instantly in love and they still to this day are my absolute favorite
It's funny because when you were listing the bikes my first thought was none of them. The GSXR 750 is quite possibly the best bang for your buck on the market today. Basically liter bike power with the weight and size of a 600. I'll be trading my GSXR 1000 in on a 750 sometime next spring.
I would have to agree with you. I love my 750!
I own a 2009 cbr 600rr limited edition wouldnt change it for anything love the undertail exhaust was one of the buying points for me
Great vid loved it
I think gixxer looks beautiful!
That 2018 red CBR 600rr hands down looks the best at some angles. Damn . Fire
Id 💯agree here imo the Zx6r is easily the all round winner here!!
GSXR is the best bike I’ve ever ridden especially when you do the mods and tune it. I own a Yamaha GSXR is the way to go
A yamaha gsxr, huh?
when you started the video and said that you will rank them over your own opinion I was like WHAT !
but I the video kept going with me enjoying the way that you did it :)
although I love Yamaha but almost everything that you said is correct and I say almost because I only know a thing or two, specially the Suzuki I don't like it and never was interested in watching or reading any reviews about it.
But overall the Video is amazingly nice and enjoyable,,,,Keep Up the Good work and will be looking forward for new idea's
Muhammed Bin Nafaa
انا معك احب الياماها وعلى وشك اشتري R6 بس انتظر عروضهم
KSA for us you know offer's ended, it's almost the start of the season.
I don't think that you will get anything soon Bro
Muhammed Bin Nafaa
حتى لو انتظر سنه ما عندي مشكلة 🤣👍
Muhammed Bin Nafaa
بس واصلني خبر انه فيه عروض بالطريق
I've got a 2013 GSX-R 600 and I love it.
But I don't preach that it's the best. All of these bikes are awesome.
I can tell this video is very well made. I really enjoyed watching it and I think I would choose the same bikes as you.
Loved my 2008 CBR600RR in 2008 I was 20! Looks the best. Orange and black! The exhaust under the seat is amazing! My next SS bike must have under tail exhaust!
zx6r all the way! I originally wanted an r6 but the features the kawi offered were too good to pass up. and it came with shorty levers, race rails, an m4 3/4 exhaust. I honestly don't know what more I could ask for to already be on my bike.
I decided to get the GSX-R750 after watching this video 2 months ago, and I love it!
I would put the Suzuki on 2nd place for the simple reason of usability. The R6 may seam better on paper, but if you're not taking it to the track, it's not really at home. The GSXR600 is actually most suited for street riding, and though i agree the Kawasaki is Nr 1 her, the Suzuki deserves 2nd (in my opinion)
I have the 2008 CBR600RR and I love it 👌
I love my 18 r6 im tall though 6ft1 280lbs i use it as my everyday rider havent had no complaints yet
brennan varela how comfortable is it on city roads? And how’s the low to mid range power?
I'll never get tired of the Naked Shoot outs...pls do that next. This was a nice video to watch. I had to remind myself at some point that you haven't ridden any of them. Very detailed and fair comparison. Thanks
Thank you! I wished i could have ridden them. Maybe someday! I’ll see about the naked bikes!
I look forward to it
The fact that you own an 08 has your mind twisted. That 18 CBR looks incredible
don't like the 18
the 18 looks like a stressed out office employee that is 40 years old and still a virgin. I like the undertaill tho :)
Correction no cbr looks good. It's a Honda. Cheap pos. Buy a yammaha instead
I have a 2005 gsxr 750 and I love it! I dont know why more companies dont make 750 super bikes, it's the perfect balance of power and still being able to manage it alot better then a liter bike.
Poor CBR, you're always be my best dream bike. i'm sure one day ! :)
I've owned 3 of the 4. All except the GSXR600. I'd still have my 2012 R6 to this day if it hadn't been stolen. I sold the 2012 ninja - I wasn't as attached to it as I was the R6. I finally got another bike almost 10 years later and went with the 2021 CBR600RR. I couldn't be happier. I prefer the looks of this generation CBR as opposed to the older ones. The only other CBR I want is the 2008 Graffiti edition. I'll go hunting for one soon.
Update now in August of 2023. I added a GSXR600 to my garage. It's such a great bike too!
Can’t be a 2021 cbr600, Honda stopped making them in 2015/16.
missing out on reliability
you mind getting me that family discount bro? lol
@@antonho5903 unfortunately my dad can only get a bike every 6months 😳
Bryantrincon413 FAM Yamaha and Honda king of reliability. Honda maybe with the slight edge. Followed slightly by Suzuki then lastly Kawasaki. All of the major 4 Japanese brands are all pretty reliable though.
Oh, reliability is easy
Excellent, but not idiot proof, all four of them. If you want to get pedantic, Kawasaki is the worst (by so little it hardly matters), Suzuki 3rd, and the CBR and YZF will last forever since they say honda and Yamaha on them respectively so long as you don't do anything real stupid like take it into an ORV park or remove the rev limiter
In the reliability department, it is Yamaha in # one spot, with Suzuki and Honda tied in number 2 spot. And even then, there is only a marginal difference between number 1 spot and number 2. Kawasaki is in 3rd spot. All 4 bikes are the most reliable bikes out there.
I guess it's personal preferences , but I fell in love with the CBR600RR new look since 2013. I think it's the prettiest behind the R6. Definitely turns heads around , specially the tri-color version.
Hello, 2017 R6 here. An amazing bike! It may not have good torque below 8 but still an amazing bike and I have beat every bike, even the 636 on mine.... just sayin.
I owned a 2005 R6 and loved everything about it EXCEPT the uncomfortable seat and riding position, height, and poor low end power. I just bought a 2009 R6 and am so in love with its look 😍
is the seat still bad
I'm 5' 11" and I fit the R6 just fine and thats the one I'd get out of the 600's
Honda CBR 600RR model 2013 is beautiful, sharp - aggressive front and with Respol colour looks like million $, and also important thing -big piston fork + much better aerodynamics vs PC40. Another point is handling - Honda number 1.
Who cares that the r6 engine hasn't been updated in 13 years ?
If it isn't broke , don't fix it.
If you argue like this you could start the production of the fzr 600 engine (this is basically the model before the r6 from the 90s) because like you said it isn't broken...
Then I guess we should still be using flip phones because it ain’t broke let’s not fix it or update. So close minded. Just because it’s just enough to get it done doesn’t mean it does a good job at it.
At the end of the video he said traction control and stuff is not really needed for a bike of such class (750) but in earlier parts of the video he rated bikes based upon their electronics for a much lower class of bikes. LOGIC!
I would love a 1000cc super sport video and after that a naked sport bike video! Great job on this one, Hero :) .
I 2nd that -- A naked bike shootout.
I still agree that the r6 won In features but the Zx6r does have power modes as well as a fuel calculator and 2 trip monitors. I own one and its pretty easy to keep track of when I'm going to be low on gas soon, I've also had the chance to ride them all and one of the reasons I went with the kawa was because of how comfortable it was when actually riding.
You should review my 2005 Kawasaki ZX-6R and let me know what you think. I'm in MA and wouldn't mind taking a day to meet you and ride.
Ambitious Z I just got the same model of bike 3 days ago. Up from a 250. It's an incredible bike !
I just got an 03 zx-6r coming from a 250. Man my world of riding motorcycles had changed 100%. I’m in love with my new bike!
I love my 2019 zx6r. Edit my bike came stock with a quick shifter and a fuel Guage and traction control and other power modes in 5'5" and it is very manageable
I have a 2018 zx6r 636 and love it
New model or last model?
Hey! My ZX6R actually won a test lol. It’s funny because I bought the bike for all the reasons you listed. Most powerful, comfortable for me, and most importantly, it is a very good looking bike, second only to the Yamaha which unfortunately was about $3,000 more. I am very happy with my Zaki.
2019 zx6r only 10k! my next bike for sure!
Is that a safe bike for a beginner?
scion46 no one can tell you if a bike is safe or not it all depends on the rider (but obviously lower cc bikes are more forgiving).. I personally started on a 2009 Zx6r about a year ago & I’m loving it
In my opinion the suzuki looks the best. Idk why but the single headlights look sick.
Honda cbr600 all the way!!!
Know it's late to respond but as a 2014 GSXR600 owner, just wanted to say the power mode options mentioned in video are the 1000's, the 600 has a A mode and B mode, so full power and then B is less responsive so let's call this rain or school zones. The comfort is great, and nothing disappointing about it. I was on way to buy a 2016 (the current year of purchase) gsxr750, when at the door they had a brand new 2 year old 600 never owned or ridden just didnt sell sitting there, the 4000.00 price drop was enough to switch my mind, coming off of a zx7r, the weight lose was awesome, user friendly, and power of a 600 is not boring rarely given the room to go over 260kph anyways. Suzuki is pretty nice to work with, so as all these bikes are close it's much like buying a car, if the dealership isnt good where you are, a second choice pick maybe better in long run.
Great breakdown! I believe every bike has its own unique group of riders and I'm R6 or die guy being a racer but I will say to any rider looking at buying a 600cc bike today the 636 is the way to go. Unless you're hitting the track or canyons daily the R6 won't do much for you besides look good. The GSXR is a good bike for shorter riders, and the CBR to be honest has fallen completely off a cliff and serves no real need or want that the other bikes can't fill. It's sad after the amazing bike they produced 03-08.
Chicago R6 on the other hand,the r6 is nice because you dont have alot of power under 8k rpm,which makes it more preferable for daily riding and traffic as opposed to the 636 which has alot more low mid torque and leaves you dealing with the throttle
It is wild how much horsepower and performance they get out 600s. I can remember when you didn't dare get on the highway or go for any distance on anything smaller than 750cc. But these bikes today you can hop on and go coast to coast as fast as you dare without limitation like the old days!! I ride a 919 HORNET but would like to pick up a 600 to play with. As far as zipping around you can't beat them.
1. cbr
2. ninja
3. r6
4. gsxr
i honestly just think the honda is sexy af ESPECIALLY with the under tail exhaust. i think if youre going with a 600, comfortable and sexy should be the most important categories and worth the most points. when the other stuff starts to matter, it's time for a liter bike. just my opinion. loved the vid
Gsxr also has an electronic steering damper
Hey Hero, I have a question. Why do you ride supersport? Many would say they're not ideal street bikes, but yet you love them. cyclecruza touched on the subject, but since you really know your bikes and have something to say about everything, I'd love to hear your two cents.
Nick Belanger For the same reason some prefer a small cramped sports car and not a big comfy, roomy suv.
Supersports and not the most comfortable bikes, but they do provide a adrenaline filled rush when you crack that throttle open. Of course speed isn't everything, since they also have the best suspension for handling and cornering from any other class bikes.
Looks. Just like sports cars, sport bikes look badass. Alot of sport bike riders don't even take the time to really "know" their bikes and what they can actually do. Vanity. Some people just like to look "cool".
Personally, i love sports bikes. My last bike was a zx6r (shameless plug- i have a few videos on my channel). I used it for both commuting and long trips (many trips to mexico - again, videos on my channel =D). Once you get used to the ergonomics, its actually not that bad comfort wise.
Now, all that being said, for the moment ive moved away from the super sport class and currently ride a ninja 650r. For my current uses, it fits my needs. It has a much better and comfortable riding position, way better low end torque, better fuel efficiency, and simply a lower cost to maintain.
Hope i helped answer your question, and keep in mind, anything on two wheels is a blast to ride 🏍
Sport bike around town only can be hard on the wrists. Get above 60mph and the wind in your chest lightens the pressure on your wrists. Because of this I find at faster speeds this is the better riding position for me. Besides all the other reasons for a sport bike, I really want the performance for the fun of it and it is safer in the right hands to have the handling brakes and ability to accelerate out of trouble quickly on the road. Problem is the acceleration can get you into trouble too. You really have to think to stay safe.
My daily was an 03 ZX6R for a long time(over 30,000 miles in 2 years) and while it wasn't the most optimal its just so much dam fun. I can always count on it to give me a rush after a dull day at work. Way more than enough power but not as insane as a 1k so you get the fun of revving it out, and absolutely eats up the twisties. There is something really great about getting off work and being able to head straight for the mountains for a fun time.
Nick Belanger cyclcruza is a drug addict, I would take anything he says with an grain of solt
First of all every day cant even get to 50% of a 1000cc superbike capability so on a 600cc your more likely to get to the bike potential of around 80%
For the best engine on the street I chose gsxr600 with early torque and the sound of intake make you feel like riding 1000cc
I had 03 Cbr600rr and 07 zx6r in the past
*As a loyal honda Fanboy who owns 3 Cbrs I love how people get upset just because their bike doesn’t win LOL*
Suzuki fan boi here ur list is perfect😀
Just look how clean that Kawasaki is mmmmm
L E G E N D! Great commentary and great audio mixing. Really professional production quality. Looks like a lot of manpower and money went into producing this video. Hope you're earning from this.
I earn a little but mainly i do it as a hobby. Thank you so much for the comment! I worked really hard on this video so it’s always nice to get some recognition. Thanks again brother!
GSXR FTW!!!!
@@GodelEscherBachus how much are you paying monthly?
Thanks for this. I plan on buying a 600 for my first bike and as a motorcycle noob it’s nice to hear someone’s insights on the newer models
Dude only yamaha 💪🏽💣💥
I absolutely agree that the 08 GSX-R600/750 looks amazing.
Please Do a 250cc or lower beginner bikes
a new 250 is worthless and slow, if you are a baby you buy a old 250 which is equally worthless and slow, but cheap instead.
just get a 500 class or a 650 class
600 is a beginner bike..don't listen to them pepole
I'm be 15 in October so I will have a limit here in texas
Samuel K. Don’t get a bike until you’re over 20. Thank me after you see the estimated insurance rates. This is coming from experience. I’m extremely glad I started on a ninja 650 instead of a 250/300/400 and waited until I was 22. My insurance is literally $48 a month for full coverage. It woulda been way higher when I was 18.
The bike I own is the CBR 600RR which I love beyond words. Feels great as an everyday bike and I have no complaints. I do love that R6 though.
At least you clearly state you have not ridden any of the bikes. 👍
Yeah i really wished i could have ridden them. :/ unfortunately i don’t have that ability. Maybe some day though! :)
The 2017 R6 also has the front suspension and brakes from the R1. The brake rotors are 10mm larger.
It also has a quick shifter. They said they would be limited to the first 500 sold or whatever, but I'm yet to see one that didn't have it. And believe me, it makes a huge difference.
appreciate your thoughts 💭
HeroRR I do agree with you about the looks of GSX-R, I really do loved the looks and headlights of 08 GSX-R than the 2011 and up models, but 2011 also looks good in side view except the headlights,
Yamaha R6 3rd Generation is the best looking R6 for me, 2009 Black Raven or Blue ones.
CBR I liked the 2007 Repsol Edition, new models looks really bad.
Well we exactly have the same taste when it comes to look.
Power output and other performance figures aside, how on Earth can the ZX-6R outrank the R6 for looks?!?
It is subjective but at the beginning if this decade all the superbikes had a similar hawk like profile. The zx6r retained that up to 2018 and the R6 sort of kept it yet lost it and gained a forehead or predator look. People who loved the looks for a long time might be put off a little by the new looks of the cbr and r6
You forgot to mention the steering stabilizers, very important feature to highlight
Am i the only 14 years old boy who wants a motorcycle and is watching videos of bikes to buy in the future or is it just me
Just a few more years, depends on where you live ,if in America some place allows you ride at age 16, but in CA 18. Basically senior year ,and better if you start off kindergarten 1 year late so by senior year you can ride one for sure or junior. I recommend ninja 300, r3, suzuki sv 650, yamaha fz7, suzuki gsx500f and my personal favorite is 2005-2008 suzuki gsx650f, it's a lower power of a gsxr 600 engine, but still 70hp is still a handful. The pros are, 1 cheaper insurance 2, same great in line 4 screaming sound, 3 planty power, 4 a full body fairings. Cons are insurance is still above a 300 for sure, 2 420 lbs is not light. If I have to start over again I would either keep my 05 ninja 250r or suzuki gsx650f. Now I'm able to max out the performance of a 250-300 bikes, now I'm able to carry out a tap above 100 mph exit speed out of a nice corner. Trust me is way more fun to ride a less powerful bike fast than bigger bike slow, even a ninja 300 has the same 0-60 as mid 2000s mustang gt or wrx sti, or any mid range sport car, but you can corner harder on a bike, On a bigger bike like 1000 it takes time and courage to learn corner hard, I learn knee drag on my 2nd bike 07 ninja zx10r, I took it very slow to learn it, so I don't crash and feel bad.
I buses you like sport bike, but if not any 250cc to 800cc other categories bike are good for beginners. 800 advantrures bike is heavy and tall though, 800cc cruiser is a good option.
Kawaii Ninja thanks for taking the time to write all this I appreciate it and i live in Australia in the city i live in you need to be 18 years old to ride a motorcycle, the motorcycle i have in mind are the ninja 600 and the R6 Yamha white and red cause these bikes are the most that i liked they are more powerful for a beginning ride but i would learn to handle it I don’t want to start on a 300 or low cc bike because i will get board of it real fast and thanks for the bikes that you wrote i will look on them thanks a lot man
Don’t stop believing, no matter what your parents tell you of how unsafe it is. Keep believing. I’m 15 and that’s what they keep doing to me lmao 😂. But, the overall feeling of riding bikes is just amazing.
Siaminati Curry I don’t know if I’m lucky but i told my parents that i want to buy a motorcycle first they said it is dangerous then they said you can buy it i was happy none of my family had or have a bike I’m gonna be the first one they even will buy me a dirt bike to learn about riding a little bit
I used to do that when I was your age. So far I've had 4 bikes 😂
The gsxr has an electronic steering damper, power modes, most comfortable adjustable rear sets that you didn’t mention , brembo breaks and you actually have to know how to ride it. It misses out on abs and traction control but that’s what makes you a better rider down the road not to mention the colors. I think you were a tiny bit too critical
No abs and traction control your basically asking for an accident
Yes. Kawi wins yea no need to argue here! I’m a Kawasaki guy and will never buy another brand. I did own BMW I do love S1000RR but never will I buy another brand But Kawi.
I mean i too love Kawasaki but u know... u only have one chance at life... why not try all there is out there? Why isolate urself from change?... getting out of ur comfort zone is the only way to mature... this applies to bikes too... get out of ur comfort zone riding only kawis and get to ride a yamaha or an aprilia... any bike... ull come to love all bikes and mature as a motorcyclist...
Have a 2012 600rr w/30k miles, thinking about changing to current gsxr600.
Honda just isn’t fun imo and I ride a lot, not enough power unless you go high In powerband.
It’s not really about the $ for me, but just want something fun. I hear a lot of good things about the gsxr and see a lot of them as well.
Please chime in, would love to hear your thoughts??
Lol try being 5’4 and be riding the 636 😜 it’s awful but I ain’t a bitch so I won’t lower it
dude im the same height and I have a r6 which is the tallest out off all of them its horrible lol but like you said we ant goanna lower it cus were not a bitch I low kew wanna get a gixxer tho
I have the exact opposite issue I'm 6'2" and my backs too long to be comfortable on my VFR i end up having to hunch until i hit the highway and can let the wind hold me up
Lol im thinking of trading my 636 in for the yamaha! Im 6,1 and i think the kawi is too short for me
@@Jmeez69 The Yamaha is gonna be even worse if thats the case dude
I'm 5'6" and I can ride a Yamaha R1 with no issues at all...
I have an 08 gsxr 600 and I agree with it being the best looking gsxr 600 design
It's honestly sad, that whenever a comparison like this comes out, it's always the predicable Japanese squad that lines up. Gixxer, cbr, R6, Ninja.. Like, in the entire world, that's the complete list of bikes in this class, which is crazy when you think about it. Can't count in the Daytona or the MV F675 because of their increase in price, they are kinda in their own little bubble.. What I really wanna know is, where is KTM in this? Where is BMW? Where is literally every other manufacturer? Yes the whole naked bike craze is over us and "600 dont sell anymore".. well then make them 750 instead I don't care. I'd much rather have a light and nimble small supersport, than a 1000 with too much power for city and country roads anyways + that hefty price tag and insurance. Hell, I'd even settle with a sub 600cc supersport, as long as they are engaging and fun to whip around. So sad that the only real faired bikes in this category, are all the 650cc sports tourers.
Just imagine a reinterpreted KTM RC8, but in the 600 league, how mad would that be? Or a BMW S600RR ? Maybe an Aprilia RSV600? What about a Ducati 700 supersport, renew the old brand name (and not stick it on a sports tourer, but an actual supersport). So much potential, and no one have the balls to go for that market :'c
Daniel Kemnitz European bike are for lawyers
Because Japanese bikes are the best of the best. Simple.
The issue is that R&D of 600cc & 1000cc is more less same but profit on the bike is huge difference, From business view 600 Super Sport is not working but i am agreed with you i would love to see BMW, Ducati in this segment too.
Laki29 that's true, but mainly due to 600 bikes having reached their pinnacle of performance with the restrictions that are in place by emissions standards etc. 1000 bikes are still going forward in terms of power and engine characteristics, so there is more to gain with the same R&D, and as you say the earnings are higher on those bikes. However, 600 bikes appeal to a broader market so in theory it should be possible to sell more of them than 1000 bikes, it's just that development is so limited now that people just stick with existing bikes because new ones don't offer enough development to justify the price of a new bike.
Ducati has older models with 500,600,750,748,855,916,989, and 1000ccm
I started out being a rabid Kawasaki fan (H2, Z1, original GPz, Ninja) they've always kicked butt and took names in the performance catagory. Yamaha stole my heart with the ground breaking tech and great looks of the FZ750 and later YZF R1. I was hoping the R6 would win as I have owned 2 of them which were both amazing bikes.... but I do have a place in my heart for Kawasaki. Kawasaki has always been the bad boy on the block, a bit rough around the edges who stole your lunch money and then threw your books and homework in the mud.
I'm not a brand loyal sort of guy, but I can't help but feel like Suzuki is going to die out soon. Where Yamaha and Kawasaki have both been innovating heavily in the sport and naked bike scenes and Honda has been killing it with the older crowds with the Africa twin and goldwing, Suzuki just sort of tags along. They're entire line up from the busa all the way down to their dual sports are all decades old tech. I feel like they've fallen so far behind that the only reason they're at all relevant is because they're relatively inexpensive.
Just take a look at their line up in Brazil (suzuki br). No 600cc, no 750cc... And the prices are absurdly high.
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You bring up some great points. One segment I think they are killing though is the non-HD, affordable cruiser market. Specifically the M90 and the 109R. Both of those are A LOT of bike for the $
They sell a lot of Vstroms and cruisers. The 600 class it’s what is really dying, thanks to Euro 4, think this is bad because 600s are my favorite motorcycles. I currently ride on a Yamaha FZ6, has very good power (94 hp) and is confortable for the street.
I'm content with my 2015 GSXR 600. I like the styling and livery.