@@rt2255 Idk man, I haven't ridden a German bike yet but grew up with Japanese cars, and now I drive BMW's.. and, they can make a damn good car that feels great on the road. If the bikes are anything similar I bet a S1000RR rides amazing for what it's built for.
@@dinosoarskill17 they feel and drive/ ride nice but cost way more and are not as reliable. I have ridden and driven both. I will use a lexus bmw comparison, both very luxury and sporty but bmw cannot compare in price and reliability. Same with bike top japanese 1000 much cheaper than bmw ss1000r, and again difference in performance only a pro racer will notice and japanese much better bang for buck and reliable as a anvil. Not bashing ducati or bmw but in no way are they worth the extra cost. Brother is bike mechanic for 30 yrs ridden myself for 40 plus yrs. The only real difference is price and reliability. Only a pro could use the difference. Just my.opinion on my experience riding them and listening to brothers experience working on them. I have owned at least 15 to 18 japanese bikes new and used lots of miles on many low miles on others. I never had any issues with japanese but basic wear items and i do not baby bikes. I ride for the performance, dirt bikes and sport bikes. Ridden but never owned a cruiser, cars for cruising bikes for flying luke ferrari but on regular mans budget.
The new 22 636 has no steering dampener causing it to easily get speed wobble’s. It is a huge safety issue that has to be taken into consideration. Ride safely guy’s.
You just helped me find my next option of bike choices greatly. The black and grey color scheme of the zx6r looks absolutely awesome. I may consider the zx6r for my next choice.
I hate to disappoint you as the new 21/22 CBR600RR is sold and readily available in Australia. It is however litre bike expensive, although no where near as expensive as it’s big brother, the newly updated Fireblade with lots of “R’s”. I’ve also ridden the new CBR600RR and also the Kawasaki (and the latest Suzuki and Yamaha). The Honda actually feels lighter, quicker and has a heap more tech and if price wasn’t an issue then it’s easily the best bike in each category. Just one reason why Australia is called the lucky country. 👍😎🇦🇺
its fucking 27 grand lol (probs like 24usd which is what this video is in) its basically not for sale in AUS at that price. Honda pretty much said "we cbf bothering with international sales on this bike but if somebody is dumb enough to spend this much on it they can have it".
Personally I am really disappointed in Honda. For starters the core components of the 600RR are practically two decades old but considered "new" mostly just for the frivolous and fiddly but especially expensive electronics. Then suppose you consider the 650R because it's still sporty but more comfortable for everyday riding while being affordable. Well too bad because Honda only imports the learner restricted version. So basically your choices for mid-weights is to pay through the nose for an old model they're going to discontinue anyway or buy a bike still with it's training wheels attached. Thanks Honda!
@@ThermicLight honda gave up on Australia ages ago.. not just in bikes. They don't offer any hybrid crv models and cut half their eco range of models years back. It's kinda hard to like them atm as an Australian
Wow. The detail in this video is amazing. Such an informative video and EXACTLY what I was looking for. The exact years of the bikes I’m looking into as well as the bikes themselves. Also, describing your build was genius and were built the exact same lol. So thank you!
All these bike are so close in every aspect, you can’t lose with any of these picks. It’s just like Coke or Pepsi, Chevrolet or Ford, it’s all about preferences.
just finished a restoration on a 2013-2019cbr and its amazing got it for +/- 2700USD and its on 80 000 miles still runs like a dream after being crashed 3 times
I just picked up a 21 CBR600 about a month ago with 500 miles after years not riding. My first street bike was an 02 gsxr600. Bike is a riot ton of fun commute 1hr to work an 1hr back when the weather is clear!
I appreciate that man. Sorry for the radio silence been unbelievably busy lately. But I miss YT a ton and I’m gonna try to upload more frequently. If you have any video suggestions please make them :)
Kawasaki is king in all sport bikes and a lot of people hate on Kawasaki but you just can't I mean they are king the H2 RR is 300 Horsepower stock the busa killer all the way around kawasaki ninja makes a super fast bike.. I love honda as well I have 2 kawasaki ZX6R 08 and a kawasaki 2012 1000cc and a honda cbr fireblade 929 2000. Love them all. Honda and kawasaki the best super sport bikes you can get my opinion tho.
I would prefer the GSXR due to it's utter lack of BS features I don't want or need. The ZX6 would be second due to power to weight ratio. I like the looks of the Honda but I don't ride or drive anything for the looks.
Yea I love the Honda but the TFT dash for example? I hate TFTs they are cluttered and I do not care about half the shit in the way when I glance down to see my tach.
@@ihateeverything3972 yeah that's true idk I just like the tft displays having more info is what I like, just like cars, I'd rather be able to see as much parameters as I can about the vehicle I'm driving. Makes me more in tune with what's happening rather than car go vrrmm
@@nativeoutdoors1780 Oh okay. I like to see the road, I don't want to glance down and see so much stuff. Half of it is just useless information to me anyway, like why do I need to see what mode I'm in 24/7? I set the damn thing have it on a separate screen. And some stuff like current lean angle, that's just a party trick. I don't care how hard I'm leaning as long as it's enough. And stuff like wheelie control too, lmfao. What a useless feature except on maybe an H2 but good on you H2 buck off the bad riders you glorious machine. My favorite idea, like on the H2 now i think about it would be a combo of both. Analog tach, it's functional and it's and opportunity to show some craftsmanship because yeah performance performance that's really all I care about, but then why can I put a license plate on it at the end of the day. What I'm saying is I still care about having nice things to look at, so make the analog tach look nice, like a nice wristwatch maybe or with light up numbers and a forged carbon face. The is probably the most important instrument so it deserves its own little island in the cockpit. And then put everything else on a smaller TFT screen that is hugged by the analog tach. Boom the best of both worlds, function/form, analog/digital
Fun fact: The cbr600, R6, and gsxr600 are all discontinued or announced that no further improvement will be made to these bikes (namely the gsxr, that is discontinued everywhere but america, but suzuki has already said it has no plans of updating this bike), making this video pretty meh, since going forward the only bike that will be purchasable is the 636. Tbh the R7 is all you need for the streets or the track, so i would say it fills the void left by the R6 in a good way, be it a totally different bike.
GSX-R is the most comfy 0 doubt with the best power band, but the CBR is really close to it in both and I like the looks of the CBR the most out of of all of these even tho I'm a Suzuki guy. The ZX6R is a sick bike and no doubt the most updated, potent and modern of the bunch so you can't go wrong there--- then the R6 was no question the least practical, worst power band(too peaky with no mid range)and ultra uncomfortable. I'm a pretty fit guy and can ride a Gixxer600 all day but that R6 is painful LOL.... I don't think abs and trac control is needed on a 600 so I'm still partial to the Gixxer-- the Gixxer frame and suspension is just so perfect and I love the way their 600 engine makes it's power that's why I have one.
For all the good looks and high-tech that the new CBR has, you would think they could at least put a fuel gauge onto that beautiful LCD screen ! But noooooo.
No way the resale value on that 600RR is even going to compare with it's past generations. Especially as a first owner because it's just way too much money for what it is.
600cc Inline-4s are the funnest bikes to ride, and they have more than enough power to go fast. Liter Bikes are kinda boring to ride, as we can just stay in 2nd gear, and we really don't wind up the motor with high revs like we do the 600s. Of all these 600s, the CBR600RR is the only choice for me. Here in the USA in 2024, we do NOT get the Gen6 CBR 600RR, but regardless I still would rather much have a Gen5 CBR 600RR. I don't care that the 2024 USA Honda CBR 600RR has the exact same engine as the 2009. It still looks the best with the best graphics. That red, white, and blue color on it looks amazing, and that underseat exhaust is so super sexy. I am a Honda and Yamaha guy. I can't ever see myself riding a Kawi or Suzuki. Hondas have always been easy to ride and the most comfortable. They are also the most reliable, and are basically bomb proof, so there is also that. CBRs can easily go 100k miles, and there is even one CBR out there that went 300k miles. I have owned a 1994 F2, 1996 CBR 900RR, 1999 F4, 1999 R6, 2001 R1, and 2004 R6, with the F4 and the 2 R6s being my track only and race bikes. I like Yamahas more as canyon carvers and track bikes, but the Hondas are better overall just better street bikes, while being pretty decent in both the canyons and the track. All these power numbers do NOT really matter because it is always 99% rider, and at the end of the day its all about the lap times. I know I can make decent lap times on any of these bikes, as I have won trophies before. So my choice goes to the bike I think looks the best, and that is the Gen5 CBR 600RR, which has been sold in the USA from 2015-2024. I am NOT a big fan of the headlights or the winglets on the Gen6 CBR 600RRs, but I will still pick the Gen6 CBR over the others.
He doesn't know how to do power to weight ratios. Higher numbers means higher power per pounds. Why he went opposite is beyind me. I personally just got a 2024 CBR600RR USA version,and love it.
I disagree I think the r6 is still the best looking bike the problem with the honda cbr 600rr is it looks dated or it did do until i seen this video and found they finally changed the headlights and tachometer but the rear end still looks like something from the early 2000s so for me the r6 all round still looks the best
I personally don't think the R6 is gone. Throughout History everytime a Manufacturer does something like this it's always been to Redesign it from the Ground up. I think it we Return sometime around 2025.
@@rt2255 Discontinuing a Bike, especially a Bike like the R6 gets Peoples attention. Take a few Years to Re-tool Your Factories let People start to miss it. Then create a massive buzz around the release of the next Generation.
Yamaha is still offering a new 2022 R6, but it's for track use only because Yamaha couldn't make the R6 engine euro 5 compliant. Although I suppose you could still convert one for the street
my pick would be the GSXR because the ratio is good and more importantly i want to ride my bike myself. i don't like when bikes feel different all the time and take care of every situation. i think i would not be able to really learn how to ride a bike. what if your helpers fail ? can you ride your bike safely in the rain then ? anyway - thanks for the very informative video !
Most aids can be totally turned off. But most 600 riders need aids as they are not high skilled riders no matter what they say. I have 40 plus yrs riding and most riders i come across cannot speed shift on their own, cannot tune suspension, never heard of counter steering, only add power never spend 5 minutes vhoosingnbetter tires or brake pads or adding stainless brake lines. Thing us experience riders know are important. And most as much as they crow about bikes 1/4 mile times are based on times real riders get. Local dragway is littered with 600s and 1000s with extended swingarms that never get within 1 second of stock bikes best time. Mainly as they cannot launch for sh.t. i can run faster on stock 600 faster than modded extended swingarm 600s, makes them crazy. I actually practice drag launches. Best launch is front tire 6 inches off ground rear tire spinning just a bit and zero bog on launch. Practice is key most extend swingarm and think that makes a drag bike. Skill beats hp every time
@@olafkliemt1145 63 at 7 buddy taught me on yamaha 60. Ridden every sense then. Dirt bikes taught me grest basic riding skills. I say that was best experience cause at 14 i got honda sl 125 used and hit streets. Knowing and being totally comfortable on bike was key before playing dodge the idiots in cars lol. Went up to honda 400 four super sport, first real street bike. In 79 that puppy was fast smooth and real sport bike. Few basic bikes then in 85 brand new ninja 600. Now the real fun began, power great handling and great brakes. Had that been first bike I would be dead right now. Sorry guys but new 600 as forst bike is insane, no way you are ready for 130 hp 160mph bike, you aint got the skills for what 20 yrs ago was the race bikes 25 yr old racers racing for yrs barely could handle.
exactly......if you can nab a gxsr for say $9500 it would be worth considering.......Kawi just needs to lose that air craft carrier cannon of a silencer and it would look fine.....a slip on would really help the looks
I agree, Kawasaki is rhe most streetable 600... Especially with that extra mid range the others dont have from the extra CC's. I own a modded 2018 Ninja 400 and a bone stock 2023 R7... Eyeing out a second hand 636 to add to my collection and possibly start track riding with it.
If you’re going to take it to the track exclusively, gotta go with the R6. The Honda looks nice, but I’ll bet it’s heavier and still lacks some ponies compared to the R6.
I’m shopping right now for a brand new 600 and I live in Canada. I’m unable to get the cbr600rr or r6 so it’s between a gixxer 6er or a Zx6r. I’m just not a fan of any of the Zx6r Color’s right now. I’m considering a gsxr750 the white and grey one
Don't do it until you've seen that gruel-paste grey in person. Saw a litre bike version of it just last week before I nope'd the F out of there and bought the zx-6r in KRT colors. If I hate it come next year... wrap it or paint it.
I would personally go with the either the kawasaki ZX-6R or the honda Cbr600rr. Or suzuki gsxr 650 is good also but kawasaki is best if you're looking for abs and speed mixed with comfort. Even though I have no experience with motorcycles I just ho off with what I studied about theses bikes. 🙏🏽
Great video! Of the bike you've ridden, which has the smoothest engine? I can't stand vibrating and buzzy grips haha, bugs the heck out of me when cruising on the highway and the bars buzz and your hands go numb. Thanks!
I just bought a gsxr600 and was wondering about this. I feel like the buzzing has increased after the "break in" period and was wondering if I needed to tighten the frame bolts or something. Or is it that buzzy all the time?
this was a good video for tech nerds who look at paper stats more than ride... a good 89% of all the tech talk and trinket items that dealers use to sell bikes wont even be used by street riders. the other 11% are people who actually track their bikes. Best way to make a decision is to test ride each one and make your personal decision. I don't know how many people i helped buy bikes, rode home for them, taught how to ride, got into sport bikes... and they all let their bikes collect dust so all the ABS, TC, wheelie control does jack shit except make your payment higher lol
Idk I used to ride a 600RR, those risers on the clip-ons make it easy. I love GSXRs but now I think about it I feel like the low seat height will have my legs more "scrunched" up and my hips will cramp up more. Idk about you but for me it's the hips not the back, atleast yet haha
my 2021 600RR has the same engine from 2007 but mine makes more power bc of lighter stronger internals. even though its the heaviest 600 it still has quite a bit of power. the 2021 600RR is the same tech and performance as the 600RR in 2010 for pro circuit.
Zuk has championships they figure they don’t need an update! But giving the fact that the 750 is racing in Super Sport now, the 600’s are about to go away. Stay safe Bruddah!
Just last week i was thinking about wheel weight for my car, and remembered you made the carbon rim video for the rc51... then I got thinking I hadnt seen a video from you in my feed in a while. Was worried bro
Between the looks of 650r and zx6r.. It's very different.. and in person it's very obvious the Zx6r is different motorcycle.. it also has that hidden winglet at the chin.. The 650r looks smaller and thinner (due to the tank).. It also looks rounder on the edges. I don't understand people who says it looks similar.. the face is not similar.. the middle side doesn't look the same, the seats are different, lights and even the swing arms.. There's nothing similar between the two as in 100% nothing is the same.. maybe just the color.. While the Ninja 400 looks like a Jr. version of the Zx6r but it's a lot smaller in person..
@@KimmyR3 But I always hang out at Kawasaki shops.. It's really different.. Ninja 400 seems small even the 650. The part of the zx6r also looks premium than the others..
Wait what, what are people talking about? I bought the 2021 Honda CBR 600RR last year with only 0.2 miles on it. And if this video is out a month ago why is it still saying not sold in the US? The store i went too has a few of them as of two weeks ago
whyd u do pounds per horsepower and then say power to weight ratio, in fact whyd u do pounds per horsepower and not just horsepower per pound in the first place
it would even cost suzuki much to update their bike......chassis, brakes, motor are all fine....weight is best in class, throw a TFT and LED lights, and some rider aids......maybe sharpen up angles on fairing and they would have a stunner most important thing is reliability and comfort on the street as this is where most of these bikes live their life.......if going to track clipons and rear sets are easy to dial in ergos if one chooses. hard to argue with kawasaki....either this or GSXR 750 for street bike......sucks Honda doesnt release the bike over here but they figure it wont sell so why ship them.....if supersport sales were up they would have shipped them have a duke 890 R but always wanted a supersport.......
R6 probably the best bet, but honestly you could ride any of them. You should go to the dealer and sit on the bikes and see which one fits you the best.
Hey Hero, I would have to agree with you, but….. there is also the Z900 SE that sells for about the same money, and is arguably a better street bike. And to your point, Honda no longer is selling their 600 here, Yamaha has discontinued the R6, and the Gixxer hasn’t been ungraded in a Blue Moon! So, just a caveat that you might bring up in a subsequent video?
I still personally put 1 thing above all else as bikes are so close in most categories. Reliability owned 3bdofferent yrs of kawasaki 600s, bullet proof motors clutchband even the rest of bik parts fail real rarely. Have friends with all four brands and different yrs. In my oersonal experience and friends issues kawi. Most reliable. Put 60k.on one 600 not one part failed not clutch ststor coils nothing. Not many 600 sportbikes can claim that
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Am I the only one who wants BMW to make a 600cc with the new aesthetics?
Yeah lol jk
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Yeah why pay 5 grand more for bike that in real world is no better than the 600s from japan?
@@rt2255 Idk man, I haven't ridden a German bike yet but grew up with Japanese cars, and now I drive BMW's.. and, they can make a damn good car that feels great on the road. If the bikes are anything similar I bet a S1000RR rides amazing for what it's built for.
@@dinosoarskill17 they feel and drive/ ride nice but cost way more and are not as reliable. I have ridden and driven both. I will use a lexus bmw comparison, both very luxury and sporty but bmw cannot compare in price and reliability. Same with bike top japanese 1000 much cheaper than bmw ss1000r, and again difference in performance only a pro racer will notice and japanese much better bang for buck and reliable as a anvil. Not bashing ducati or bmw but in no way are they worth the extra cost. Brother is bike mechanic for 30 yrs ridden myself for 40 plus yrs. The only real difference is price and reliability. Only a pro could use the difference. Just my.opinion on my experience riding them and listening to brothers experience working on them. I have owned at least 15 to 18 japanese bikes new and used lots of miles on many low miles on others. I never had any issues with japanese but basic wear items and i do not baby bikes. I ride for the performance, dirt bikes and sport bikes. Ridden but never owned a cruiser, cars for cruising bikes for flying luke ferrari but on regular mans budget.
This is the exact video that I've been looking for. Specific details and differences between the kings of 600cc superbikes. thank you
I think if I were to buy a sports bike, I would default to whatever is the most comfortable
Excellent video! I love how "thorough" you were in ranking these bikes and I honestly agree with You on about 99% of it as well!!! Well done Sir!!!
The new 22 636 has no steering dampener causing it to easily get speed wobble’s. It is a huge safety issue that has to be taken into consideration. Ride safely guy’s.
What about the 2023 636?
Dont need one!
Is it possible to put an aftermarket one?
Fact is few actually need dampner, like anything simple add on if you need it
Best value is a zx6r
*Shows a zx25r*
Love your videos man i miss em
I just really want a ZX25R :(
@@HeroRR its a great bike many of my friends have it, to bad you don't have it there
No it was a ZX6R fuck boi
You just helped me find my next option of bike choices greatly. The black and grey color scheme of the zx6r looks absolutely awesome. I may consider the zx6r for my next choice.
Not a wrap fan but seems like wrap would be great option on a sport bike, design your own scheme
My bought new 2005 CBR600RR looks pretty similar to the 2022 version. It’s a classic motorcycle I never get tired of riding or admiring.
I hate to disappoint you as the new 21/22 CBR600RR is sold and readily available in Australia. It is however litre bike expensive, although no where near as expensive as it’s big brother, the newly updated Fireblade with lots of “R’s”. I’ve also ridden the new CBR600RR and also the Kawasaki (and the latest Suzuki and Yamaha). The Honda actually feels lighter, quicker and has a heap more tech and if price wasn’t an issue then it’s easily the best bike in each category. Just one reason why Australia is called the lucky country. 👍😎🇦🇺
i dont consider a 27 grand 600 lucky at all. Honda are ludicrously pricing themselves out of the aussie market. even new litre bikes are cheaper.
its fucking 27 grand lol (probs like 24usd which is what this video is in) its basically not for sale in AUS at that price. Honda pretty much said "we cbf bothering with international sales on this bike but if somebody is dumb enough to spend this much on it they can have it".
Compared to ZX6R is only $17k. You'd have to really hate the ninja styling to cough up $27k for the Honda.
Personally I am really disappointed in Honda. For starters the core components of the 600RR are practically two decades old but considered "new" mostly just for the frivolous and fiddly but especially expensive electronics. Then suppose you consider the 650R because it's still sporty but more comfortable for everyday riding while being affordable. Well too bad because Honda only imports the learner restricted version.
So basically your choices for mid-weights is to pay through the nose for an old model they're going to discontinue anyway or buy a bike still with it's training wheels attached. Thanks Honda!
@@ThermicLight honda gave up on Australia ages ago.. not just in bikes. They don't offer any hybrid crv models and cut half their eco range of models years back. It's kinda hard to like them atm as an Australian
In first place it's the ZX-6R: proceeds to show a pic of the ZX-25R
Love the single headlight and engine so it's the GSXR for me..
Wow. The detail in this video is amazing. Such an informative video and EXACTLY what I was looking for. The exact years of the bikes I’m looking into as well as the bikes themselves. Also, describing your build was genius and were built the exact same lol. So thank you!
All these bike are so close in every aspect, you can’t lose with any of these picks. It’s just like Coke or Pepsi, Chevrolet or Ford, it’s all about preferences.
just finished a restoration on a 2013-2019cbr and its amazing got it for +/- 2700USD and its on 80 000 miles still runs like a dream after being crashed 3 times
I just picked up a 21 CBR600 about a month ago with 500 miles after years not riding. My first street bike was an 02 gsxr600. Bike is a riot ton of fun commute 1hr to work an 1hr back when the weather is clear!
I love my Orange '20 ZX6R! Great video, very objective.
Was expecting an upload from you sir. Really missed your vedios. Thanks. Hope all fine there🙂
I appreciate that man. Sorry for the radio silence been unbelievably busy lately. But I miss YT a ton and I’m gonna try to upload more frequently. If you have any video suggestions please make them :)
Kawasaki is king in all sport bikes and a lot of people hate on Kawasaki but you just can't I mean they are king the H2 RR is 300 Horsepower stock the busa killer all the way around kawasaki ninja makes a super fast bike.. I love honda as well I have 2 kawasaki ZX6R 08 and a kawasaki 2012 1000cc and a honda cbr fireblade 929 2000. Love them all. Honda and kawasaki the best super sport bikes you can get my opinion tho.
I would prefer the GSXR due to it's utter lack of BS features I don't want or need. The ZX6 would be second due to power to weight ratio. I like the looks of the Honda but I don't ride or drive anything for the looks.
Yea I love the Honda but the TFT dash for example? I hate TFTs they are cluttered and I do not care about half the shit in the way when I glance down to see my tach.
@@ihateeverything3972 yeah but having a fuel gauge seems stupid not to have
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What?
The old 600RR had a fuel gauge no TFT required
@@ihateeverything3972 yeah that's true idk I just like the tft displays having more info is what I like, just like cars, I'd rather be able to see as much parameters as I can about the vehicle I'm driving. Makes me more in tune with what's happening rather than car go vrrmm
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Oh okay. I like to see the road, I don't want to glance down and see so much stuff.
Half of it is just useless information to me anyway, like why do I need to see what mode I'm in 24/7? I set the damn thing have it on a separate screen.
And some stuff like current lean angle, that's just a party trick. I don't care how hard I'm leaning as long as it's enough.
And stuff like wheelie control too, lmfao. What a useless feature except on maybe an H2 but good on you H2 buck off the bad riders you glorious machine.
My favorite idea, like on the H2 now i think about it would be a combo of both.
Analog tach, it's functional and it's and opportunity to show some craftsmanship because yeah performance performance that's really all I care about, but then why can I put a license plate on it at the end of the day. What I'm saying is I still care about having nice things to look at, so make the analog tach look nice, like a nice wristwatch maybe or with light up numbers and a forged carbon face. The is probably the most important instrument so it deserves its own little island in the cockpit.
And then put everything else on a smaller TFT screen that is hugged by the analog tach. Boom the best of both worlds, function/form, analog/digital
We've been missing you so much!
Fun fact: The cbr600, R6, and gsxr600 are all discontinued or announced that no further improvement will be made to these bikes (namely the gsxr, that is discontinued everywhere but america, but suzuki has already said it has no plans of updating this bike), making this video pretty meh, since going forward the only bike that will be purchasable is the 636. Tbh the R7 is all you need for the streets or the track, so i would say it fills the void left by the R6 in a good way, be it a totally different bike.
Yes you finally uploaded
GSX-R is the most comfy 0 doubt with the best power band, but the CBR is really close to it in both and I like the looks of the CBR the most out of of all of these even tho I'm a Suzuki guy. The ZX6R is a sick bike and no doubt the most updated, potent and modern of the bunch so you can't go wrong there--- then the R6 was no question the least practical, worst power band(too peaky with no mid range)and ultra uncomfortable. I'm a pretty fit guy and can ride a Gixxer600 all day but that R6 is painful LOL....
I don't think abs and trac control is needed on a 600 so I'm still partial to the Gixxer-- the Gixxer frame and suspension is just so perfect and I love the way their 600 engine makes it's power that's why I have one.
Honda hands down the best looking bike!
Glad you’re back making EXCELLENT videos!!!
For all the good looks and high-tech that the new CBR has, you would think they could at least put a fuel gauge onto that beautiful LCD screen ! But noooooo.
You don’t need a fuel gage you’ll know when you’re low
The Cbr600r will outlive that kawi...resell value and well its a CBR600r the iconic bike and UNDERTAIL EXHAUST
No way the resale value on that 600RR is even going to compare with it's past generations. Especially as a first owner because it's just way too much money for what it is.
The undertail on my 08 cbr made it feel a bit hotter in traffic
yesss i’ve been waiting for this video
You should cover middleweight naked bikes (mt07, street triple, tuono 660, etc)
600cc Inline-4s are the funnest bikes to ride, and they have more than enough power to go fast. Liter Bikes are kinda boring to ride, as we can just stay in 2nd gear, and we really don't wind up the motor with high revs like we do the 600s. Of all these 600s, the CBR600RR is the only choice for me. Here in the USA in 2024, we do NOT get the Gen6 CBR 600RR, but regardless I still would rather much have a Gen5 CBR 600RR. I don't care that the 2024 USA Honda CBR 600RR has the exact same engine as the 2009. It still looks the best with the best graphics. That red, white, and blue color on it looks amazing, and that underseat exhaust is so super sexy.
I am a Honda and Yamaha guy. I can't ever see myself riding a Kawi or Suzuki. Hondas have always been easy to ride and the most comfortable. They are also the most reliable, and are basically bomb proof, so there is also that. CBRs can easily go 100k miles, and there is even one CBR out there that went 300k miles. I have owned a 1994 F2, 1996 CBR 900RR, 1999 F4, 1999 R6, 2001 R1, and 2004 R6, with the F4 and the 2 R6s being my track only and race bikes. I like Yamahas more as canyon carvers and track bikes, but the Hondas are better overall just better street bikes, while being pretty decent in both the canyons and the track.
All these power numbers do NOT really matter because it is always 99% rider, and at the end of the day its all about the lap times. I know I can make decent lap times on any of these bikes, as I have won trophies before. So my choice goes to the bike I think looks the best, and that is the Gen5 CBR 600RR, which has been sold in the USA from 2015-2024. I am NOT a big fan of the headlights or the winglets on the Gen6 CBR 600RRs, but I will still pick the Gen6 CBR over the others.
He doesn't know how to do power to weight ratios. Higher numbers means higher power per pounds. Why he went opposite is beyind me. I personally just got a 2024 CBR600RR USA version,and love it.
@@4325Airborne , numbers means shits. It is all about the lap times!
How would the GSXR 750 fit and work into this category yes it’s a little bigger but…..
I disagree I think the r6 is still the best looking bike the problem with the honda cbr 600rr is it looks dated or it did do until i seen this video and found they finally changed the headlights and tachometer but the rear end still looks like something from the early 2000s so for me the r6 all round still looks the best
R6 looks amazing way ahead of its time
The R6 isn’t road legal anymore, and it costs 12K
Love your videos ! But where have you been the last 3 months ?
636 gang
Honda is always the most well rounded product.
You should do a naked bike buyers guide love those things
I personally don't think the R6 is gone. Throughout History everytime a Manufacturer does something like this it's always been to Redesign it from the Ground up. I think it we Return sometime around 2025.
If they are not making profit watch out. Same was said about 750s that were around since 1969.😮
@@rt2255 Yeah but the CB-750 has Periodically Returned several times over the Years. Infact They just Released a 2023 Model.
@@rt2255 Discontinuing a Bike, especially a Bike like the R6 gets Peoples attention. Take a few Years to Re-tool Your Factories let People start to miss it. Then create a massive buzz around the release of the next Generation.
@@jerodrobinson4040 good plan only.if it works. No one knows what the markets will be in 5 yrs. They fail as often as they succeed.
Also you randomly showed a 2008 special edition GSX-R600 at 0:55 😂
Yamaha is still offering a new 2022 R6, but it's for track use only because Yamaha couldn't make the R6 engine euro 5 compliant. Although I suppose you could still convert one for the street
my pick would be the GSXR because the ratio is good and more importantly i want to ride my bike myself. i don't like when bikes feel different all the time and take care of every situation. i think i would not be able to really learn how to ride a bike. what if your helpers fail ? can you ride your bike safely in the rain then ?
anyway - thanks for the very informative video !
24,867 I seen one 33564 I seen one 49654 these are custom now the one 87654 it really special a sight to see gpdt
I like the GSXR too, I don't want or need bells and whistles.
Most aids can be totally turned off. But most 600 riders need aids as they are not high skilled riders no matter what they say. I have 40 plus yrs riding and most riders i come across cannot speed shift on their own, cannot tune suspension, never heard of counter steering, only add power never spend 5 minutes vhoosingnbetter tires or brake pads or adding stainless brake lines. Thing us experience riders know are important. And most as much as they crow about bikes 1/4 mile times are based on times real riders get. Local dragway is littered with 600s and 1000s with extended swingarms that never get within 1 second of stock bikes best time. Mainly as they cannot launch for sh.t. i can run faster on stock 600 faster than modded extended swingarm 600s, makes them crazy. I actually practice drag launches. Best launch is front tire 6 inches off ground rear tire spinning just a bit and zero bog on launch. Practice is key most extend swingarm and think that makes a drag bike. Skill beats hp every time
@@rt2255 hahaha how true ! thanks for your replay. i was born 1966, rode my first bike (CR50) at the age of 12.
@@olafkliemt1145 63 at 7 buddy taught me on yamaha 60. Ridden every sense then. Dirt bikes taught me grest basic riding skills. I say that was best experience cause at 14 i got honda sl 125 used and hit streets. Knowing and being totally comfortable on bike was key before playing dodge the idiots in cars lol. Went up to honda 400 four super sport, first real street bike. In 79 that puppy was fast smooth and real sport bike. Few basic bikes then in 85 brand new ninja 600. Now the real fun began, power great handling and great brakes. Had that been first bike I would be dead right now. Sorry guys but new 600 as forst bike is insane, no way you are ready for 130 hp 160mph bike, you aint got the skills for what 20 yrs ago was the race bikes 25 yr old racers racing for yrs barely could handle.
Remember you sold me the zx6r. This video finalized it
exactly......if you can nab a gxsr for say $9500 it would be worth considering.......Kawi just needs to lose that air craft carrier cannon of a silencer and it would look fine.....a slip on would really help the looks
You can get an arrow slip on for 350 with removable db killer.
The Japanese cbr600rr is actually tuned down compared to the US production due to emissions my guess
Did opening say r7 inline 4 thoughtbit was twin? Did i see and hear that wrong?
Thw Zx6r is a great bike.
I agree, Kawasaki is rhe most streetable 600... Especially with that extra mid range the others dont have from the extra CC's. I own a modded 2018 Ninja 400 and a bone stock 2023 R7... Eyeing out a second hand 636 to add to my collection and possibly start track riding with it.
buying a zx6r next month 💪
None of these bikes are for sale in The Netherlands anymore - due to euro 5 emissions.
And sluggish sales for the last 10 years.
How can we still buy one in the netherlands? Or any alternatives?
@@MichaelEmanuelZaire
Second hand market is your best shot.
If you’re going to take it to the track exclusively, gotta go with the R6. The Honda looks nice, but I’ll bet it’s heavier and still lacks some ponies compared to the R6.
I’m shopping right now for a brand new 600 and I live in Canada. I’m unable to get the cbr600rr or r6 so it’s between a gixxer 6er or a Zx6r. I’m just not a fan of any of the Zx6r Color’s right now. I’m considering a gsxr750 the white and grey one
Don't do it until you've seen that gruel-paste grey in person. Saw a litre bike version of it just last week before I nope'd the F out of there and bought the zx-6r in KRT colors. If I hate it come next year... wrap it or paint it.
I could not be more satisfied with that list. Bravo 👏
great video thanks for the effort you put into making it. Liked and subscribed
Guys what is the cheats 600cc I can buy with ABS? And maybe even traction control?
I would personally go with the either the kawasaki ZX-6R or the honda Cbr600rr. Or suzuki gsxr 650 is good also but kawasaki is best if you're looking for abs and speed mixed with comfort. Even though I have no experience with motorcycles I just ho off with what I studied about theses bikes. 🙏🏽
excellent video as always! can you also made 2022 300/400 cc guide too? thanks!
Great video! Of the bike you've ridden, which has the smoothest engine? I can't stand vibrating and buzzy grips haha, bugs the heck out of me when cruising on the highway and the bars buzz and your hands go numb. Thanks!
I just bought a gsxr600 and was wondering about this. I feel like the buzzing has increased after the "break in" period and was wondering if I needed to tighten the frame bolts or something. Or is it that buzzy all the time?
I have a 2021 ZXR6R and its really smoot, my wife has a 2017 GSXR600 and it vibrates a bit when high in the revs
So what do you recommend? What should I buy?
Can’t go wrong with any. I personally think the ninja is the best tho.
I got a 17 gsxr600. Not the prettiest but man its a really good bike
If they are in stock and not marked u up 100%
i am new to this bike market is cbr 600 rr is slower than cbr650r and for the yamaha r6 is slower than r7 and is gsx6r is discontinued
this was a good video for tech nerds who look at paper stats more than ride... a good 89% of all the tech talk and trinket items that dealers use to sell bikes wont even be used by street riders. the other 11% are people who actually track their bikes. Best way to make a decision is to test ride each one and make your personal decision. I don't know how many people i helped buy bikes, rode home for them, taught how to ride, got into sport bikes... and they all let their bikes collect dust so all the ABS, TC, wheelie control does jack shit except make your payment higher lol
As a taller rider everything on the list feels cramped. Suzuki is the only one to make a tall person bike
Idk I used to ride a 600RR, those risers on the clip-ons make it easy.
I love GSXRs but now I think about it I feel like the low seat height will have my legs more "scrunched" up and my hips will cramp up more. Idk about you but for me it's the hips not the back, atleast yet haha
Next: CBR650R vs Ninja 650 vs R7 vs... SV650??? Suzuki doesn't have an alternative here. But Aprilia's RS 660 takes over that torch.
I'd very much like to see this 650-class comparison also!
I'm 5'6 and wonder what sports bike would be good for my first time riding ? 🤔
5'8" here and can flat foot my 2015 GSXR 600. It's got the lowest seat hight.
@@wade998 sweet !! I'm gonna look them up rn
Any if you lower the bike a inch or 2
I'd wish we had the honda cbr600rr from Japan.
1:29 nope.... the GSX-R600 has been unchanged since 2011...
How would your 2008 CBR600RR compare with these bikes? I'm really looking at buying one as it's still the lightest generation.
my 2021 600RR has the same engine from 2007 but mine makes more power bc of lighter stronger internals. even though its the heaviest 600 it still has quite a bit of power. the 2021 600RR is the same tech and performance as the 600RR in 2010 for pro circuit.
@@baggedtuned8569 ok, I was liking the idea of the 2008 model as it's lighter.
@@baggedtuned8569 plus I also think the older bike looks better.
@@stevesas632 LOL i have to disagree on looks the newer one looks better as i own one. mine makes more power than the older one its just much heavier
@@stevesas632 my bike has electronic controlled steering so no death wobble state of the art brakes and a quick shifter from factory.
Zuk has championships they figure they don’t need an update! But giving the fact that the 750 is racing in Super Sport now, the 600’s are about to go away. Stay safe Bruddah!
14:00 "PLEASE DONT KILL ME IF THATS WRONG"
New content 😍
Do r6 still exists after the launch of r7?
You got the weights of the cbr and the zx6r backwards. The cbr weighs 194kg and the zx6r weighs 197kg
How do we get this CBR here in the us?
Just last week i was thinking about wheel weight for my car, and remembered you made the carbon rim video for the rc51... then I got thinking I hadnt seen a video from you in my feed in a while. Was worried bro
GSXR does have one thing all the other bikes dont... steering damper!
🤦🏽♂️ the CBR’s had that since 07.
Is cbrrr600 out of prodoctsuon in eu ??
CBR600RR 2-handed price is higher than official now.
Why wasn’t the 2022 cbr 600rr used to compare?
Nice video. Am i alone in thinkin undertail looks less appealing then a side exhaust??
Between the looks of 650r and zx6r.. It's very different.. and in person it's very obvious the Zx6r is different motorcycle.. it also has that hidden winglet at the chin..
The 650r looks smaller and thinner (due to the tank).. It also looks rounder on the edges.
I don't understand people who says it looks similar.. the face is not similar.. the middle side doesn't look the same, the seats are different, lights and even the swing arms.. There's nothing similar between the two as in 100% nothing is the same.. maybe just the color..
While the Ninja 400 looks like a Jr. version of the Zx6r but it's a lot smaller in person..
they essentially all have the same headlights. from the ninja, to the ZX series, even their adventure versys line
@@KimmyR3 But I always hang out at Kawasaki shops.. It's really different.. Ninja 400 seems small even the 650.
@@KimmyR3 But I always hang out at Kawasaki shops.. It's really different.. Ninja 400 seems small even the 650. The part of the zx6r also looks premium than the others..
Just another Ninja W. 😎
I hope they bring back the R6 as I’d love to have one after my LAMs bullshit is done
Ok I want a 600RR
Anyone know if you can do a JDM front fairing + headlight conversion on the 2013+ U.S. CBR600RR??
just checked the zx 6r in my country, we pay over 50% third world tax over the prices you say here. I want to cry.
2021 Cbr600rr is available in New Zealand, Australia and Japan.
As far as I know.
tfw the zx6r is retailing for approximately 1.45x the price of it in the US in my country.
I ❤️ my gunmetal/black 22 zx6r
You put a pick of the zx25r
Two words ! Moore Mafia !
at 14:26 that is not a zx-6r
I'm getting the Suzuki soon
Excellent video! Would love to see this comparing it with other bikes from around the world too!
The gsxr is around 3,500$ less than a zx6r in the Midwest
Wait what, what are people talking about? I bought the 2021 Honda CBR 600RR last year with only 0.2 miles on it. And if this video is out a month ago why is it still saying not sold in the US?
The store i went too has a few of them as of two weeks ago
Honda continues to sell the older model in USA while the newerr version is Japan only.
whyd u do pounds per horsepower and then say power to weight ratio, in fact whyd u do pounds per horsepower and not just horsepower per pound in the first place
it would even cost suzuki much to update their bike......chassis, brakes, motor are all fine....weight is best in class, throw a TFT and LED lights, and some rider aids......maybe sharpen up angles on fairing and they would have a stunner
most important thing is reliability and comfort on the street as this is where most of these bikes live their life.......if going to track clipons and rear sets are easy to dial in ergos if one chooses.
hard to argue with kawasaki....either this or GSXR 750 for street bike......sucks Honda doesnt release the bike over here but they figure it wont sell so why ship them.....if supersport sales were up they would have shipped them
have a duke 890 R but always wanted a supersport.......
I’m
Getting my first bike and rn im
Stuck between the 1 the Honda and 2 the ninja 😫
what 600 do u guys suggest for a tall guy?
R6 probably the best bet, but honestly you could ride any of them. You should go to the dealer and sit on the bikes and see which one fits you the best.
That power figure lol. My R6 made 113hp to the rear wheel. That’s with a exhaust and a flashed ECU but that power figure seems way off
Hey Hero,
I would have to agree with you, but….. there is also the Z900 SE that sells for about the same money, and is arguably a better street bike.
And to your point, Honda no longer is selling their 600 here, Yamaha has discontinued the R6, and the Gixxer hasn’t been ungraded in a Blue Moon! So, just a caveat that you might bring up in a subsequent video?
the video is for 1. Super sports, Z900se is not a super sport 2. for 600cc…900 is in the name of your bike
Better street bike… far worse on track.
Z900 Horrible for riders 5,8 and up
I still personally put 1 thing above all else as bikes are so close in most categories. Reliability owned 3bdofferent yrs of kawasaki 600s, bullet proof motors clutchband even the rest of bik parts fail real rarely. Have friends with all four brands and different yrs. In my oersonal experience and friends issues kawi. Most reliable. Put 60k.on one 600 not one part failed not clutch ststor coils nothing. Not many 600 sportbikes can claim that