Thousand Year Blood War Is Hype, But…

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @ShonenOuji
    @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +4

    What was your first impression of this arc? Which changes would you like to see in the anime?

  • @oldaccount181
    @oldaccount181 2 года назад +27

    The last few chapters were the biggest issue. The other was the weekly experience with this. Sticking to a fight for multiple chapters on end got taxing. Otherwise TYBW is a fantastic arc that was bogged down by outside circumstances that forced kubo to do what he could with this arc from issues with jump to issues with his own health

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +2

      For sure. I'd say most of the issues people have with this arc come in the later half. While I do agree that watching the anime weekly will probably be better than reading it weekly, I think new fans might have the same mixed reactions if they aren't able to make certain changes.

    • @oldaccount181
      @oldaccount181 2 года назад +3

      @@ShonenOuji agree, I think the flow of the battles will be much better in anime form so that fatigue may not be there.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +2

      @@oldaccount181 The fatigue won't be there, but for a few of these fights they will still feel rushed if they don't add to some of the sternritter or extend the fights in a meaningful way.

    • @jimmyorgenkaccrow4961
      @jimmyorgenkaccrow4961 Год назад

      @@ShonenOuji Lol. Super Eyepatch Wolf did nothing wrong about his hot take against Bleach. This series really fell off after the Soul Society arc.

  • @mangamerchant9002
    @mangamerchant9002 2 года назад +18

    When I finally got around to reading the bleach manga I didn’t have an issues with the ending. I have no idea why but I just really enjoyed it.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +3

      I remember liking this arc for the most part but understanding all the negative reactions. My only concern is that they actually make some improvements so that the ending of the anime isn't a repeat of these mixed reactions.

    • @mangamerchant9002
      @mangamerchant9002 2 года назад +4

      @@ShonenOuji if I were the animators I’d add more scenes with Chad. He’s universally loved by the fans but does very little.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +4

      @@mangamerchant9002 This might just be the smartest idea anyone has ever had.

  • @SamTheGumMan117
    @SamTheGumMan117 2 года назад +7

    I can't think of much I don't like but Squad Zero in how they're handled and the very last 10 or so chapters also OH MAI GAWD I watched the first ep of TYBW last night and it was amazing beyond words I'm happy

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +1

      Yeah. Squad Zero was definitely one of the bigger disappointments for me. I'm glad to hear that everyone is really enjoying the first episode though. Hopefully this continues and they will even make some well needed changes in the later half of the arc.

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville 2 года назад +4

    I made a video on the TYBW arc and "CHAD", Orihime, Ishida and Ganju are either plot devices or background decoration. In her only fight, not counting putting a barrier once to protect them from Hollows in the anime version of this arc, Orihime fought alongside Ichigo against a Ywhach who was just testing Ichigo. He never intended to seriously hurt him so Orihime felt already irrelevant. After Ywhach went serious, her barrier were just decoration. In fact she got nerved since her abilities couldn't even heal Ichigo's bankai and Tsukushima got buffed in order to manipulate someone's past so Orihime can heal the damage.
    The only arc Uryu was relevant was relevant was the Bount arc.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +2

      Yeah. Not a huge fan of how Chad and Orihime were used in the final fight.

    • @Taiga-16
      @Taiga-16 3 месяца назад +1

      I fell like Rukia also was missing in the final, I thought she'd be more present. I'm glad for Renji tho...

    • @lolsnez7542
      @lolsnez7542 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Taiga-16rukia was always.present she was.never missing cause she is the shinigami side of the series

    • @lolsnez7542
      @lolsnez7542 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ShonenOujiorihime literally had great moments in the final.fight why do you lie?

    • @lolsnez7542
      @lolsnez7542 2 месяца назад

      I saw your videos and you are a complete ignorant your videos are completely false and wrong, and are you trolling? Juha bach never tested ichigo.since the beginning he was always serious and the reason ichigo was alive is because of her and the reason her shields failed is because of the almighty a power that even ichigo cant face so is not orihimes fault, so she never felt irrelevant in fact this moments was the best for orihime and she wasnt nerfed is common she couldnt fix ichigos bankai cauad she cant manipulate time just matter, and tsukishima was always able to manipulate the past so either you didnt paid attention or you are a mindless hater

  • @Upsilon1984
    @Upsilon1984 2 года назад +10

    I loved the fullbring and TYBW arcs

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +3

      Fullbring is definitely an underrated arc. Not the best arc, but people need to give it more credit.

  • @P0xal
    @P0xal 2 года назад +4

    overall great video, I disagree with a few things said but your thoughts were excellently conveyed and word choice was phenomenal

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      If Lord Poxal says it, then I must have done right by Bleach fans.

  • @lolsnez7542
    @lolsnez7542 2 месяца назад +1

    Rushed only the ending and thats it

  • @Lasherluke
    @Lasherluke 2 года назад +3

    Personally I do enjoy the arc, sure it has it's problems, but certaintly no where near the worst I have seen, I think people just judged it on face value like when the characters got beaten in fights easily, but then, what series doesn't have that.
    As for what changes I'd include, I would have to say the ending does need improving, maybe give some more closure to characters such as isshin and toshiro. Also more extended fight scenes. Also, yeah, have to agree with you the sternritter need more screentime.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      I definitely agree that Bleach fans came to like this ending more and more as time passed. But the fact of the matter is that there was an initial negative reaction the moment it ended, and people still have these legitimate concerns even now.

  • @P0xal
    @P0xal 2 года назад +7

    1:51 I greatly disagree on Orihime. This arc is one of the most important arcs for her, where she displays her development to its peak. Her conclusion is impeccable. Which I know you touch on later, I just personally feel like this is the most important moment in her entire character as it's what her entire story was leading to

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      I totally agree. But between her introduction in this arc, that moment at the camp, and her moment in the final battle, it just feels like she didn’t actually do a lot this arc. Again, definitely a better job than with Chad. Just wish she had contributed more to the plot on top of the character growth we got.

    • @P0xal
      @P0xal 2 года назад +1

      @@ShonenOuji totally fair, I think it just came down to sacrifices who did kubo want to be involved in and more. When you have 100+ characters and 200 chapters. You only have so many that can get battles

    • @wingadept8793
      @wingadept8793 Год назад +1

      I'm sorry but...what? Maybe my memory isn't all that great, but I don't remember Orihime doing much other than throwing a barrier that one time against Ywhach. I also disagree with what he said in regards to Orihime being the character in which we see the vunerable side of Ichigo, no that was Rukia. Whenever Ichigo was at his lowest point it or something was bothering him it was Rukia that was usually Ichigo opened up to and who was there to listen to him or get him out of his funk, not Orihime.
      I don't recall her major development she got in this arc. When she was supposed to fight alongside Ichigo, she ultimately ended up doing nothing except standing there helplessly (like she did in the climax of the arancar arc) alongside Ichigo while Ywhach essentially flexed on the two.
      Maybe you can help refresh my memory, as I don't remember her doing much in this arc, which is sad b/c she had a lot of potential as a character, but ever since the arrancar arc she hardly received any development. Certainly no payoff imo.

  • @TP19
    @TP19 2 года назад +5

    I think it’s fine to critic but why the day before it comes back. These things have been talked about for a decade lol

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +1

      It’s relevant now that this arc is finally back again. It’s important that we point out the strengths and weaknesses of this arc to understand why people initially reacted the way they did and see how that changes with new fans of the anime.

    • @TP19
      @TP19 2 года назад +3

      @@ShonenOuji that’s fine and dandy but we knew this was coming back for like 2 years. Again criticism is fine but let’s have a day to enjoy this moment.

  • @KatsuBAle
    @KatsuBAle 2 года назад +2

    I would like to see what kubo wasn't able to see give in manga.
    I don't want changes based on my opinions and tipical anime mentality of how Team of MC should be and backstory of enemies.
    I think we have got enough character development that one ark have to offer and kubo barely give backstory of characters. I don't know why people expect backstory of every characters.
    Lets just give kubo his credit deserve.
    We don't have to change anything in bleach. It isn't good to offer changes on someone else's art. We should let the artist give his own way of art.

  • @randomgirlgtxq6421
    @randomgirlgtxq6421 2 года назад +6

    I think they need a bit more focus on ryuuken and chad. Those two characters need more screentime.

  • @chasinghaze0962
    @chasinghaze0962 2 года назад +1

    Interesting video my guy. I def agree with some points. For me, I only really want the last fight to have a good buildup. You know the arrow and Ryuken stuff. Keep it up.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      Thank you so much! I’m happy to hear you enjoyed the discussion. My suspicion is that they’ll extend that part somehow, but we’ll just have to cross our fingers for now.

    • @lolsnez7542
      @lolsnez7542 2 месяца назад

      What he said about orihime was mad wrong and many as well

  • @partyjams
    @partyjams 2 года назад +2

    I'm very curious how they'll approach this adaption considering how long it's been since people have seen Bleach. This arc was definitely looked down on when it was releasing so it's quite strange to see all the hype. But as someone who is also excited to see the Akudama Drive team of Pierriot making Bleach anime, I do hope it lives up to it. Much like my hopes for the final season of Dr Stone, this is one of those times where I hope the anime adaption will adds tons of anime only content for the final stretch of the story to flesh things out

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      Exactly my hopes. While I have my complaints, this is genuinely a good arc and it can be nearly perfect depending on the changes they make in the anime. Regardless, I just hope it continues to deliver on peoples expectations like it did today.

  • @ghostspider2056
    @ghostspider2056 2 года назад +2

    Final arcs seem to have issues living up to the standards, same applies to Naruto and Fairy Tail.

  • @blazingboifire
    @blazingboifire 2 года назад +1

    as a bleach i understand that this arc leaves something to be desired that didnt happen in the story but i want to say this is NOT exclusive to bleach ik thats not what you mean but anything you said about this character doin this or that character not having screen time or ect i understand your view point i agree with the things you said about chad and uruy but not everything is perfect or peak as we say it nowadays what im trying to say is i agree with you fully yes but also this is normal in the whole weekly manga industry especially for long running series such as bleach the author may not be able to draw or put everything he or she have intended for a arc just how kubo comfirmed that he didnt add everything he wanted and he had health problems during the final portion of the arc yes this is not a perfect arc no arc in no manga or light novel or manwa or any type of entertaiment is perfect but if its enjoyuble if it makes sense ill accept it and watch it this is how i view the topic of the video

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +1

      Totally agree. You can love something like this but still have your issues with it, however it is still the case that a lot of Bleach fans had mixed or even negative reactions to the ending. Even if these impressions improved over time, it doesn't mean those issues aren't still there. The reason some parts feel rushed is because there is content that is flat out missing, not content that would have been nice to have. So when I say people don't like this arc, I mean there are legitimate issues people have with this arc despite the fact that they generally enjoy it.

    • @blazingboifire
      @blazingboifire 2 года назад +1

      @@ShonenOuji ofc i do also agree some key important scenes and moments did need more explananation and ect

  • @Superschemer34
    @Superschemer34 2 года назад +1

    It’s waaaaay more bloody and gory lol

  • @MikussD
    @MikussD 2 года назад +1

    Arc was a W

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      For the most part yes. Even with my legitimate issues with this arc, I’d say Kubo did more things right than he did wrong.

  • @Lasherluke
    @Lasherluke 2 года назад +1

    One major one I have is that Ichigo's sisters barely do anything in the series.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      Yeah that was definitely a bummer. It's always been an important part of Ichigo's character that he takes his role as a big brother seriously, so it's a shame we barely see them.

    • @ska4666
      @ska4666 14 дней назад

      @@ShonenOuji What significance could they even have in TYBW, like sigh* it’s whatever u said in anime is from a rushed Manga Arc k/a TYBW but the character you desire to see can’t hold up against the Power Levels of this Arc.
      They are merely Humans, and their isn’t much they can contribute except being of use according to their Abilities, sure I understand Many people’s favourite Characters didn’t get justice, But if you are that attached write a fanfic yourself don’t bother the narrative route show is taking, Besides This is Just as much as Ichigo’s fight if not more than Soul Societies conflict, so ofc everyone else is on support duty
      We can’t just do fan service and include all fan loved stuff, it’ll only make a story Character parade rather than narrative progression
      This is the Problem with Anime fans, I see this in nowhere else, They project their expectations on their fav story as if it’s being tailer made for them, Like Come on guys, learn to Accept author’s story if it has a great finish (epilogue) and TYBW has a Great one.

  • @PedroHenrique-mk5zi
    @PedroHenrique-mk5zi 2 года назад +3

    The fights are rushed and many characters get no screentime and/or backstory.
    You could say this arc is... Hollow.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      Dad jokes in anime?
      W

    • @bankaiilunar
      @bankaiilunar Год назад

      blud the orignal series we had their backstory

  • @lexruptor
    @lexruptor 2 года назад +3

    Excuse me? Bleach fans haven't even seen it yet, and it looks good. Maybe say why YOU don't like it, and don't lump us in with you

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +7

      Bleach fans have all read the final arc. And who are you to speak on behalf of all Bleach fans? Everyone agrees the arc was rushed, despite everything Kubo did right.

    • @HashiraHatake
      @HashiraHatake 2 года назад +2

      Just watched some scenes and love it

  • @sosuke5025
    @sosuke5025 2 года назад +3

    what are you talking about ? ı really like new season

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +1

      The anime looks godly so far. Just hoping they make some well needed improvements in the later half to give this the adaptation it deserves.

    • @sosuke5025
      @sosuke5025 2 года назад +1

      @@ShonenOuji 🙏

  • @Situpx
    @Situpx Год назад +1

    We waited all these years for this? They deadass shoved all of the original Bleach content down our throats just because of the ANIMATIONS. They know NOBODY is going to watch the old Bleach original show, so they made this arc look good with good ANIMATIONS. These 13 episodes was a waste for the OG Bleach fans frfr... like the way I'm feeling right now... what was the point of the original Bleach if they were just going to show all the old content from it for the new Bleach viewers just for the {ANIMATIONS] Some people who are watching this arc didn't even see the original Bleach and they don't have to watch it because everything is there for them regardless... which makes no sense... why not have your audience go back to your old show to see what's going on etc, to fully understand what's taking place. But if you think about it and what I realized from these 13 episodes is that this Bleach arc seems like a completely different show from the original... its catered to the new audience meaning, they don't need to watch the old bleach. And sadly, everything in this anime era {ANIMATIONS} so they not going to watch it because it doesn't look like this Arc. ITS NO CONNECTION FROM THE PREVIOUS BLEACH.

  • @6Kubik
    @6Kubik 10 месяцев назад

    I watched the 2 seasons without having really read or watch bleach before. I just read the first few volumes.
    I liked the story and the art style and i was interessted in some characters like haschwalth and bazz b but there was nothing interesting about thei onow about the very small backround story but....uhh..its not really that big or something.
    So as an outsider I felt kind of empty after watching it and inasked myself: how is is possible to watch so many hours of a show and still dont o ow anything about the characters i like?

    • @lolsnez7542
      @lolsnez7542 2 месяца назад

      Cause you cant pay attention?

  • @pjgamer5804
    @pjgamer5804 2 года назад +4

    if you don't like TYBW Arc then you're not a Bleach fan.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад +1

      Do you have to like every arc of a manga to be a fan of it?

    • @pjgamer5804
      @pjgamer5804 2 года назад +1

      @@ShonenOuji nah but tybw arc is the best arc i mean how can a fan of bleach hate a masterpiece of an arc where the best fights occurred

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      @@pjgamer5804 True. There are a lot of great fights in this arc. But there are just as many that felt rushed or ended way too easily. That is why a lot of people initially did not like this arc.

    • @bqw2094
      @bqw2094 2 года назад +1

      @@pjgamer5804 that's shotty logic l you are just a blind fanboy

  • @lolsnez7542
    @lolsnez7542 2 месяца назад +1

    What you said abour orihime and chad are wrong specially about orihime, orihime literally fought alongside ichigo and had her character development come to a full circle and we got a different orihime from the beginning to the end so i think you are deeply wrong and ignored many character development and moments of this arc so im.going to.say this video is completely false and wrong

    • @MrMagnetron2
      @MrMagnetron2 Месяц назад

      They literally said that Orehime had one big moment in the final fight.

  • @mangamerchant9002
    @mangamerchant9002 2 года назад +1

    One thing that ticks me off is Yhwach. I’ve been calling him Ya-Watch and apparently it’s pronounced Uba ha or You Ha. Really dumb name choice. I would of named him something like Robert.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      Someone should just make a video "How to say Yhwach." Video would go viral so fast haha.

  • @bqw2094
    @bqw2094 2 года назад +1

    Yeah I was there back in 2012- 2016 and the arc got a lot of shit talk , which it deserved , the writing was a mess and I’m sure Kubo isn’t innocent , alot of the stupid stuff in the arc was most likely his ideas .

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      I’m glad to hear I’m not the only fan of Bleach that remembers this! You’d think I’m making this stuff up by reading some of these comments.

    • @bqw2094
      @bqw2094 2 года назад +1

      @@ShonenOuji there are blind fanboys who refuse to acknowledge any problems with bleach, there are kubo fanboys who will insist that none of the problems are kubo's fault , then there are ones who begrudgingly admit there are problems that maybe are kubo's fault , but insist that the anime will fix the mistakes. I'm keeping my expectations low with the anime , kubo supervising it does not give me any comfort , cause he is not a good writer in my eyes.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 года назад

      @@bqw2094 Well, I wouldn’t go that far about Kubo. But I do agree that people might be setting their sights just a lil too high as far as how the anime will change any of the underlying issues.

    • @bqw2094
      @bqw2094 2 года назад +1

      @@ShonenOuji you know what , I gotta stop calling it bad writing, it felt more like lazy and childish writing . I feel kubo should have gotten a co writer to help him

    • @chasinghaze0962
      @chasinghaze0962 2 года назад +1

      @@bqw2094 tbh one of the big reasons I like Bleach is cause of Kubo's writing. If there was someone else writing Bleach, I probably would have either dropped it or not liked it as much. But I can see why some people don't like it and it's fine