Several viewers commented that I had overlooked the ball bearing that sits at the top of the armature shaft. This made me curious because 1) I found no such bearing in my model and 2) there is no such bearing on the parts diagram. Still curious, I opened up my motor again and, encased in thick black grease next to the axle gear, was a loose ball bearing! I cleaned the bearing and reassembled the motor with the bearing on top of the armature shaft and put it on the track. I noticed no significant difference in performance - perhaps it is a bit quieter - but over time, this could have become a problem. I don't know why this part does not appear on my Lionel Service Station parts diagram, but a quick check of the motor of the #52 Fire Car shows a ball bearing at the bottom of the armature shaft, part #50-102. The part prefix "50" means this part was developed for the #50 Gang Car, so it IS supposed to be part of the Gang Car!! Thanks for the great catch, everyone!
My dad always thought it was hilarious that this was my favorite train item. While the mighty Pensyl. Turbine and NY Hudson sitting on the siding. I really loved the way the little guy on top of the unit moved.
A great maintenance video. In my mid-teens to mid-20's, I worked at a hobby shop and was trained to do repairs on Lionel trains. We did the motor repairts the same way regarding reassembly. It was either 90 or 180 degrees to get the motors reassembled. I was always taught, one drop of oil works wonders and to use it sparingly. We used to see motors just soaked in oil. Many drops do not work miracles. With care, they will run forever. I now have my dad's collection. His 671 turbine, from 1947, still runs great at 76 years old.
EXCELLENT VIDEO, MIKE! 😄 I have three #50 Section Gang Cars I’ve acquired at local train shows, and they all show signs of needing the maintenance you’ve demonstrated here. Many thanks for this and ALL of your repair videos to help all of us maintain our fleets. 🚂
Did you forget to mention the ball bearing in the oil well for the top of the armature shaft. When I was a kid, it slipped out and I lost it, not even knowing it was there. Took years to figure out why it didn't work well after that.
trying to remember if my dad had one of these on the basement layout. I know he had two trolleys (I'd run them together along with bumpers so they'd reverse at the ends and midway when they'd hit each other). Have you done a video on the ballast tamper ? Sorry, I don't remember the catalog number as my dad sold all his Lionel over two decades ago and the inventory list was on a computer that wound up in the landfill. Would love to see how that thing worked.
Running all of the bumper type cars as fast as possible easily melts the field coil. Only run with as low a voltage as possible to just barely get them to reverse. Never run for long periods .When purchasing a unit, check if the field coil bobbin has melted . Waste not - want not .
Got mine at a tran show for $4, stole brushes and springs from a junk scout tender and resoldered the wires to the brush plate, bought reproduction men from another show for $6, and it is probably one of my favorite pieces in my little collection. I don't run it that much, but it's just so stupid I have to do it sometimes
It would be interesting 🧐 if we could have one ☝️ of those big trucks 🛻 driving down the railroad 🚞 tracks. They’re there for service on real railroad 🚞 tracks. It seems like 👍 model train 🚂 sets do lack a few things. If you’re meaning that your model train 🚂 set contains ball 🏀 bearings or such, do worry about losing them (and the springs to the brushes), but don’t worry 😉 too much. Chances are, if you’re working on your locomotive(s), the bearings and springs will become stuck to the magnet 🧲 in the motor. Just be careful that none are stuck to the magnet 🧲 🆙on reassembly of the locomotive 🚂, or ya might ruin it. Merry Christmas 🎄, and a Happy 😊 and safe New Year 🎁!! Your friend, Jeff!!
This is about as close as we can get in O gauge: www.ebay.com/itm/403401881900?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=403401881900&targetid=4580840333842797&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=603247655&mkgroupid=1235852063340218&rlsatarget=pla-4580840333842797&abcId=9316139&merchantid=51291&msclkid=bed7c6022d9c1f8003b8a38ab29edcc2
Both original and reproduction men are available for the #50. The stationary men are part #50-84, and the swinging man is #50-83. Check Lionel parts dealers or do a Google search to find them in stock.
White lithium will 100% dry out and cake up on you. (you really slopped it on, which doesnt help) Teflon grease is a far better solution. It wont dry out and you dont need nearly as much.
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Several viewers commented that I had overlooked the ball bearing that sits at the top of the armature shaft. This made me curious because 1) I found no such bearing in my model and 2) there is no such bearing on the parts diagram. Still curious, I opened up my motor again and, encased in thick black grease next to the axle gear, was a loose ball bearing! I cleaned the bearing and reassembled the motor with the bearing on top of the armature shaft and put it on the track. I noticed no significant difference in performance - perhaps it is a bit quieter - but over time, this could have become a problem. I don't know why this part does not appear on my Lionel Service Station parts diagram, but a quick check of the motor of the #52 Fire Car shows a ball bearing at the bottom of the armature shaft, part #50-102. The part prefix "50" means this part was developed for the #50 Gang Car, so it IS supposed to be part of the Gang Car!! Thanks for the great catch, everyone!
My dad always thought it was hilarious that this was my favorite train item. While the mighty Pensyl. Turbine and NY Hudson sitting on the siding. I really loved the way the little guy on top of the unit moved.
🤣😀🛤️
A great maintenance video. In my mid-teens to mid-20's, I worked at a hobby shop and was trained to do repairs on Lionel trains. We did the motor repairts the same way regarding reassembly. It was either 90 or 180 degrees to get the motors reassembled. I was always taught, one drop of oil works wonders and to use it sparingly. We used to see motors just soaked in oil. Many drops do not work miracles. With care, they will run forever. I now have my dad's collection. His 671 turbine, from 1947, still runs great at 76 years old.
Thanks for the feedback!!
Very informative and helpful video. Let's not forget that there was no OSHA in 1954! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Does sitting on your bottom count as 2-points of contact or 1? :-)
EXCELLENT VIDEO, MIKE! 😄
I have three #50 Section Gang Cars I’ve acquired at local train shows, and they all show signs of needing the maintenance you’ve demonstrated here.
Many thanks for this and ALL of your repair videos to help all of us maintain our fleets. 🚂
Thanks for watching! Be sure to check the comments on this video regarding the ball bearing. I missed that on the video.
Great maintenance video, thanks!
You're welcome!!
Great maintenance job Mike.
Thanks!!
Thank You Mike great little video indeed! Gotta luv them Trains!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video as always. I have 4 of these. Two with boxes.
A fleet!! :-)
On page 199 of Greenberg's Repair an d Operating Manual in the upper left diagram, it does show 50-102 ball bearing, thx
My page from the Lionel Service Manual does not: photos.app.goo.gl/tWJLViFmwNDp3jKx6
Did you notice the diagram in the upper left of the page you are showing? It shows 50-102 clearly
@@brianturner8477 You are correct! I saw the diagram, but I never saw the bearing in the diagram! Thanks!!!
Did you forget to mention the ball bearing in the oil well for the top of the armature shaft. When I was a kid, it slipped out and I lost it, not even knowing it was there. Took years to figure out why it didn't work well after that.
See the pinned comment. Thanks!!
trying to remember if my dad had one of these on the basement layout. I know he had two trolleys (I'd run them together along with bumpers so they'd reverse at the ends and midway when they'd hit each other).
Have you done a video on the ballast tamper ? Sorry, I don't remember the catalog number as my dad sold all his Lionel over two decades ago and the inventory list was on a computer that wound up in the landfill. Would love to see how that thing worked.
I haven't done the ballast tamper. I love you trolley story!
Very informative video! A+++
Thank you!!!
Don’t forget that little ball bearing in the oil hole at the top of the armature 😮
See the pinned comment. Thanks!!
When I clean armatures, I like to use a napkin and push it against the armature with a screwdriver. Sure works good on my 1110!
Good tip!
@@ToyTrainTipsAndTricksThanks!
Running all of the bumper type cars as fast as possible easily melts the field coil. Only run with as low a voltage as possible to just barely get them to reverse. Never run for long periods .When purchasing a unit, check if the field coil bobbin has melted . Waste not - want not .
Thanks for the tip!
Got mine at a tran show for $4, stole brushes and springs from a junk scout tender and resoldered the wires to the brush plate, bought reproduction men from another show for $6, and it is probably one of my favorite pieces in my little collection. I don't run it that much, but it's just so stupid I have to do it sometimes
Nice!
It would be interesting 🧐 if we could have one ☝️ of those big trucks 🛻 driving down the railroad 🚞 tracks. They’re there for service on real railroad 🚞 tracks. It seems like 👍 model train 🚂 sets do lack a few things. If you’re meaning that your model train 🚂 set contains ball 🏀 bearings or such, do worry about losing them (and the springs to the brushes), but don’t worry 😉 too much. Chances are, if you’re working on your locomotive(s), the bearings and springs will become stuck to the magnet 🧲 in the motor. Just be careful that none are stuck to the magnet 🧲 🆙on reassembly of the locomotive 🚂, or ya might ruin it. Merry Christmas 🎄, and a Happy 😊 and safe New Year 🎁!! Your friend, Jeff!!
This is about as close as we can get in O gauge: www.ebay.com/itm/403401881900?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=403401881900&targetid=4580840333842797&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=603247655&mkgroupid=1235852063340218&rlsatarget=pla-4580840333842797&abcId=9316139&merchantid=51291&msclkid=bed7c6022d9c1f8003b8a38ab29edcc2
I have this car but I would like The two permanent seated men as replacements
Both original and reproduction men are available for the #50. The stationary men are part #50-84, and the swinging man is #50-83. Check Lionel parts dealers or do a Google search to find them in stock.
@@ToyTrainTipsAndTricks TY
White lithium will 100% dry out and cake up on you. (you really slopped it on, which doesnt help)
Teflon grease is a far better solution. It wont dry out and you dont need nearly as much.
Thanks for the tip!