People try and use boondocks comedy as a mechanism to dismiss its overt political message. Boon yeah even though "all art is political" the heart and souls of this show is the children and the world of politics that surrounds them.
A lot of black political art is as much self-critical as it is critical of the other. Many people miss the message entirely. You see this in Boondocks in criticisms from well-meaning white people, to clueless wealthy mixed-race children, to destructive black figures. Boondocks relates the importance of black empowerment in the face of such obstacles. The core message is about establishing a healthy autonomy.
Judas and the Black Messiah actually surprised me with how explicitly socialist -- even Maoist -- it showed Hampton and the Black Panthers to be. Now granted it definitely could've gone farther, but I was still pleasantly surprised and even kind of shocked that it went as far as it did. Definitely suggest you give it a watch
Yeah what everyone else said. Generally movies being released by large studios in the USA tend to not paint communists in a good light. Like I was expecting the movie to give Hampton and the Black Panthers a vague label of "socialists" and leaving it at that. I wasn't expecting them to be explicitly referred to as communists, much less highlight Hampton's quote about not fighting Capitalism with black Capitalism, or have Hampton explicitly discuss Mao, etc.
@@sonofliberty8872 Him representing an entire country and its ideals is political in itself. Taking on Fascism, fighting for “freedom and the American way”, etc.
@@sonofliberty8872 I appreciate that 🙏🏾. I’m a veteran myself, so I resonate with the entirety of what Captain America is. He’s my favorite of the Avengers.
Like many have said, when it comes to Black Media its usually met with “too woke” or its “too political”. Its like how when _Get Out_ first was out, people were crying it too woke and too much. But in reality, its just not something the majority just couldnt fathom. Boondock’s first season hits hard because it wanted to get that point across that everything black is usually handled differently compared to white. Which is where the problem lies.
I understand that, but I'm not about to assume that everyone saying black media is too political has bad intentions. I've seen a significant number of black people express these sentiments, and I don't think it's right to come in and say "if you're black and uncomfortable with seeing your trauma on TV screens for entertainment, that's on you." I don't care for the right wing heads scowling every time a form of black art makes a point about police brutality or systemic racism, but I do understand the saturation of uninspired media saying nothing. The issue isn't politics in black media, in my opinion. It's just the uninspired product being created.
@@TheStorytellerAJ In my opinion as a black man, I would say too political is the wrong word, and your last statement I think hits the nail. It seems like whenever someone creates a show involving Black people or any other minority they all seem to follow the same routine. Police brutality, racism, activism etc. It's always expressed in a very over exaggerated manor that most people can't even relate to. It makes it looks like writers can't write show without throwing in the same Hollywood routine because they think that's what we want to see. So they just poorly write something up and throw it in. When a show involving minorities is made it's like the writers have no choice but to include these things to the point it's over saturated. Including something for the sake of including it really shows in the quality.
Dummies saying that people criticize as "being too political" anything that deviates from the norm, aka anything that isn't white, male, or straight. But there is a difference between a show offering political commentary and a show dividing people into groups of oppressors and victims based on their identity. The Simpsons at its best were often political, talking about corruption, inmigration and the influence of money in elections, yet everybody loves it. But shows that fetishize black people, homosexuals and women, dividing people on identity groups, often making grotesque caricatures out of them, while pushing for "equality", are generally disliked and dismissed as "too political", as they come across as preachy and divisive. Yet, that would be an inaccurate label, as the problem is not that a show comments on political issues, but the fact that they devolve into dividing people according to their group identity, which is equated to "politics". You can make a show based around black characters, which would deviate from "the norm", that isn't labeled as "too political" if you just don't base their entire personality on them being black, and actually treat them as human beings, with actual personalities beyond their race.
Literally just watched the entirety of Sorry To Bother You as soon as you mentioned it and I'm coming back rn to just say what to fuck. I need time to think. Glad I got this video to watch.
Why do people use the word "political" like the word "propaganda"? Also Boondocks is more culture parody as a bunch of in-jokes by Black creators who got to make the show they wanted with adult swims help. Like noir ceaser's all black manga american small company is also just writing what they want repping the very same kinds of stories they would like along with what others would
Politics will never be thrown out of art. The people who complain that things are “too political” aren’t the people making the art. Art comes from deep inside you. You have to actually be able to feel something. So politics and art are two sides of the same coin.
Being black in the media will always be political I think the issue with our culture is there is literally very little balance these days. There are the same 5 or so black creators making “political” content being praised by white people and when you then look at the content……it seems very stereotypical. We need balance. Not just political “correctness”
It doesn’t help that the stuff made with black creators that gets any sort of acknowledgment is usually stuff that’s about black suffering. I don’t mind movies about slavery or the civil rights, but goddamn it’s always that depressing soul crushing shit and it’s almost always directed mainly at white people rather than making something FOR black people. No wonder Black Panther felt like a breath of fresh air to many.
@@Dm34421 Also Kevin Hooks, but I'm going to assume most people here aren't old enough to know about his films (If we're talking about TV, you seen some of his work before), and even if you are, they're not that popular, hell his most popular film is Black Dog, a film you would've assume it was made by Hal Needham
When people say black continent is too political... Bottom line it's mostly conservative right leaning white people feeling nervous that black people want to change systems like criminal justice system, education, housing, red lining, loan discrimination, and bridging the Gap of economic mobility for black people. And honestly that scares some white people. Because they're okay with seeing an occasional black person working a high status job. But if they find out more and more are going to work into those high status jobs it terrifies them. I think some white people really tell on themselves when they deny someone racism but they fear that if if black people move into positions of power they will try to use it to push systemic racism against white people. Strange but not not surprising that racist white people will project racism on to other people.
I like the new unscripted format. It felt like there was a slight bit of repetition at points but overall you got your thoughts and explanations across pretty well. On topic heres hoping for more Black political media in the future. I feel like as more BIPOC take control of media platforms/distribution/companies we will start to see a lot more Black media of all types just as more women-centric media started gaining traction as soon as more women were allowed in executive seats and began owning companies (not that I am saying capitalism is good or anything, just that when diverse groups own media companies they can make media that suits them). As globalization continues I believe hopefully we will also see non-American Black media enter the cultural zeitgeist more readily just as Korean and Japanese media have done. You can already see the beginnings of people becoming interested in Nigerian television/cinema for instance which is quite exciting.
Good humor comes from subversion and about taboos, and i meaning punsh up taboos. Confronting the uncomfortable via comedy. Which a lot of political a lot of times. If people say its comedy, yes , but its good comedy because its so political. And on point and and good because its real..
It can easily go in the direction of pandering when light is given to black culture, but what's often forgotten is that black people are still people. They develop and change just like anyone else, and you can still make really good stories with that in mind. The way i see it, trying to politicise the media is just looking too far into it, cuz it's still case by case. If covered like this a story has alot more chance to impact the community than covering the community as a whole and being like "And this is how down the black folk are". Imagine if someone did the same shit for white people, same concept, same cringe
Exactly most of the issues come down to portrayals. In black media we're either portrayed as "revolutionary heroes who fight for the social change" or the most prejudice and exaggerated stereotypes white people could laugh at. The main premise of any black show shouldn't be "we have black people and they do this" it's sad because that's a tactic used to try to get more black viewers as the "targeted audience" and it works so much it distracts you from the original agenda the show intended.
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰It was political intentionally. It is all based on the Black American Experience....positive? We wake up every morning BLACK!!! I do love your content it makes me think! Can we work together? Although my content is Black and political.
I want to know about this "left wing lens" in the show cause I understand that Huey is a radical left leaning guy but everyone hated him and what were the positive episodes about black culture cause I don't remember those ?
Huey is supposed to represent a black radical. He's also meant to act as the straight-man character in a crazy world where almost everyone else is some caricature. He is similar to Lisa Simpson's character in that they're both framed as being the only sane person. Most characters in the show disagree with Huey or don't take him seriously but Huey is almost never proven wrong. Huey often delivers a speech towards an episode's conclusion that serves as the aesop of the episode. The underlying joke with Huey is that people will always disagree with what he has to say, even if its the truth. Boondocks is political satire and (very well written) social commentary on the black social condition in the US. Its also a pretty cynical show and, if memory serves, Huey is the show's only cynical character. Most episodes are in line with Huey's cynical perspective on black culture. As for the show being leftist or having a "left-wing lens" - The Boondocks is never heavy handed or preachy but it is never ambiguous about its politics or on the stances it takes. The only thing is the show often says things or takes stances that leftists wouldn't oppose but that in itself might not be sufficient evidence to say the show is leftist. Boondocks is quite openly critical of black masculinity. With multiple episodes dedicated to how it can be very self-destructive. That's a very commom leftist position. The right often feels there's nothing wrong with the current form of masculinity and that we actually repress it too much. The show was also critical of Obama. Or more specifically how black society responded to Obama's first election run. The cynicism towards the euphoria of simply seeing black faces in high places over actual policies is also a common black leftist position. That was one of the major points of Fred Hampton. It also turned out to be a necessary concern as Obama even flat out admitted that judging his presidential terms strictly by policy, he's no different from a 1980's republican.
@@MrOzzification read the comics. Heuy stated in the comics one of his goals are to overthrow the regime and replace it with socialism. I dont think the show included that aspect of huey because of the possible backlash from the media
Political is what is ‘polled for’ or ‘what some people would vote for’ - why do some people act like anything deviating from the norm is an issue? Only people who don’t realise the norm if f*cked think that black media is too political. If that’s anyone reading this, why is it political to you that black media exists? Is it political that black people exist? Some people who refuse to support Black Lives Matter believe that. It’s shocking that the statement that ‘black lives matter’ is up for debate at all? Some people are so unaware of the institutions they live in.
judas and the black messiah defineitly talks about socialism fred hampton has 1 main goal and thats building a clinic i recomend watching it. id also like to see a video on it in the future
@@kakizakichannel Yes it was but how is featuring minorities automatically political? That's the mindset of a white girl on Instagram or a politician tokenizing large groups of people for brownie points.
Black media isnt too political. There isn't enough nuance in recent political shows or movies. Shows like boondocks and Atlanta are very nuanced in their political commentary and the black experience while shows like blackish are very stereotypical
"Judas and the Black Messiah" got things right and some things wrong, but overall cool movie, here's a Breadtube essay on the inaccuracies if your curious ruclips.net/video/Tw9o6tE_-So/видео.html
If you have to attach "Black" in it, I'm pretty sure it IS too political. I mean whatever happened to the achievement and position as an Individual? Why does it has to be on the provision of "Black"?
I also hate when diversity is included racists get upset and say it’s too political when the show just has characters with different races and doesn’t even mention anything about race 🤦♀️
@@sonofaquack6987 I get where your coming from because the main thing that’s important is making sure that the film or tv series has a really good storyline and that the characters personalities doesn’t revolve around their race , gender or sexuality but when shows with diversity don’t make those mistakes you still have racists , sexists or homophopic people complaining about it for no reason
I never saw the hype around Get Out tbh. And shows like Blackish are also not very good. The writers focus too much on politics instead of focusing on writing a good story and entertaining the audience. The Boondocks has a perfect balance of politics with an entertaining story. And it isn't just Black shows/movies with this problem. My favorite superhero show(live action) is Gotham because unlike the Arrow verse shows(namely Supergirl) it doesn't try to be "woke" or progressive. It just tells us a great story and great/realistic stories are going to have politics in them. The problem isn't certain media being "too political", they're just not that good.
I feel like shit is more often than not black trauma porn for white people...art is going to be political regardless ,i think about that point you made about reading sonic as political. Like its not the point but it's there. I always view my shit as a piece of the whole...how is my art diversifying the whole of black art.
Hell even as a white guy I hate black trauma porn, like I hate how every period piece with a black cast is going to be a hour and a half of black people going through hell, like give me more period pieces with black cast that aren't trauma porn for the Oscars, one of my reasons that I love Dolomite is my Name is because it's a period piece with a black cast that isn't just injustice where every other scene would have the "MESSAGE!" clip from Don't Be a Menace
don't you ever ignore someone, learn to be strong enough so you don't have blind spots and you can chose which opinions you're going to allow to influence yourself, ignored people can stab you in the back if opportunity arises
I would ascend if we had unscripted weekly rants from you as long as they are visually and through title branded as distinct from your more edited and scripted content
@@CrazyJay516 "yet" I love how this implies that you will start being racist but only at a certain point in time lul. Not shitting on ya, just thought that sounded funny.
My hot take after reading the title only.... No, I dont think Black media is too political. But I believe that we sont have enough space to explore things other than that, hyper sexualized gangsta culture or slavery.
First off, i have yo say the "defund/abolish the police" is some of the most idiotic shit. And that being proven by whats happening in these places where that hss been applied. That being said, i agree with what you're saying in the video, but i zlso dont like thst every movie, show, etc is opression, slavery, its all white ppl fault type thing. What was the last movie that came out that was interesting and didnt have black ppl in some kinda struggling decent. Not saying we cant have elements of that in the media, but it seems thats all thats being banked on.
Everything is political whether it intentionally is aware of it being so or not. Even a romcom about one guy being a "loser" for not being rich or traditionally good looking is political for those same reasons even if it isn't intentionally self aware of it. People just use "too political" nowadays to argue something goes against their views and they don't like being challenged on it.
I saw Judas and the Black Messiah. They actually did have some pro-socialist messaging. Not nearly as much as there should have been for a movie about Fred Hampton… but I was pleasantly surprised that it said anything at all. Anyway, the way I look at it is that the movie didn’t co-opt Chairman Hampton and the BPP. And that’s a win for me.
I wouldn’t specifically say it’s one type of media but all of media and entertainment has become too political. There is a way to get across your point without shoving it in someone’s face overtly and telling them their ideas are wrong.
Boondocks is my shit and if ppl can't see the realness or get over it,fuck em! I've literally don't talk to some ppl about it bcuz,they see it as a cartoon. This y no-one talks about the fourth season,they tried to take over and failed horribly.
And both a black person and black woman I totally get and understand where this is coming from but also understand the pros and cons of politics and being a non-white person in America some black people not all of us but we are not innocent our racist sexist homophobic and some of us attend to shy away from serious things that are going on not just in the black community but around the world as if they don't matter and there are some not so positive things in the black community I do think it's because we are lacking resources and lack of communication but that's just my own personal opinion we need to do better as a community as a society as a whole
Don't get it twisted. Most non-Black people only like the Boondocks only because it criticises Black people, not because its political. When a 'Black' show criticises white people/society such as _Falcon and The Winter Soldier,_ they get upset. That said, there isn't really that much Black media out there, at least on a mainstream level.
Couldn't be more true when it comes to white audiences only caring about black media that criticises black people. If anything dares to critique whiteness, everyone clentches up abit.
Boondocks critiques both which I think is why so many people like it more than when something like Falcon/Winter Soldier does it because those shows don't try to do a "both sides" situation that makes white people feel better about being criticised.
@@caldw615 that's bullsh!t. For one, there doesn't need to be a "both sides". If we're talking about sexual assault, do we need to say 'but men get raped too' when we address women's sexual assaults? But you need it when discussing social and racial injustice? And it's also BS as the very reason people like the likes of Candace Owens, Officer Tatum and the likes is because they attack Black people and 'Blackness', while defending white people and 'whiteness'. And it's the very reason they have to have a 'good w- person' in films about racism and slavery, as played out as they are, but they will even go out of their way to make up a fictional 'bad Black guy' as they did in _Harriet._
@@Yawdan That's what I mean, there are many subjects that don't need a "both sides" but anything that only critiques one thing tends to not gel as well with those being criticised, shocking I know? Simply critiquing aspects of black culture and life isn't inherintely turning things into a both sides scenarip BUT many white people look at that and go "Well it isn't JUST me that's the problem" which makes them feel better or even apathetic to their own actions. I think Storyteller was mainly talking about when pollitical commentary just parrots maybe the general message everyone already knows like "Police are shooting blacks and that's bad" without actually adding anything of substance to it. Like WHY is this still a problem? Is it an issue with the police itself? Is it an individual issue where the types of people who seek authority roles for the sake of power over others? Is there a reason they are like that (i.e. couldn't make it in the military, toxic parental figures teaching them stuff like "might makes right" or to obey authority without question) Boondocks criticises things like racism as a whole but it also tries to explore why racism still occurs without justifiying it (BET pumping out absolute garbage TV shows for black viewers to consume feeding them information that isn't actually useful for handling day to day life or glorifying reality TV wealth status/rap star influence as the end goal to being successful)
@@caldw615 'things that are one sided don't gel well' yet people that dislike Black shows that address white and social racism happen to like the likes of Candace Owens. And did you actually just try to defend racism by saying BET causes it? Lol. Yo you stepped into a discussion you ain't built for. I'll dead this for you still
Do you plan on checking out and reviewing Judas and the Black Messiah? I found it surprisingly upfront about how Fred Hampton and the Black Panthers were Socialists.
@@TheStorytellerAJ that is way more of a divide than the silly skin color debate yeah history but at some point we have to move on or we enslave ourselves for the next 500 years with the self inferiority mentality
I feel Black media can be political at times, but not to a point where I would turn my back to it. Media now focuses on (their definition of) issues I couldn't care less about. Black media has done this and some I've stuck around for, boondocks and others being the reason I got into learning politics. But they don't do it too much, which I'm fine with.
Two Distant Strangers. It got Joey Badass in it, but it's effectively just watching a black guy get shot continuously for half an hour for no real reason.
I consider things like this current events. If the shit is still happening why would I not talk about it. Everyone else reuses the same tropes so why can't I.
Weird you're uploading so much now, but it's good, the main reason why I start liking Boondocks so much as a kid was because it pointed out problems in the black community that I couldn't really put into words at the time but I knew was bad.
The problem with seeing black media being "too political", is that it's done by contrasting it to traditional media & by extension anything a black content creator makes is "political". A black creator wants to make a film in a traditionally white space, i.e. Black Panther and suddenly people come out of the woodwork to denounce it or de-legitimize it's existence by saying things like, "Why isn't there a White Panther?"
@@jordanedmond5075 Maybe, but when something as broad and purposely inoffensive as a marvel movie is criticised by some for being too political. It becomes more difficult to see anything that has an actual message gain any mainstream traction.
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Politics is anything that deviates from the status quo
The status quo *is* political
White or political
Male or political
Straight or political
There was another one i think but when i heard that it made me 🤔
Skinny/Fit or political
No it is the status quo
@@turtleboy1188 That is the sarcastic allusion here, thanks
People try and use boondocks comedy as a mechanism to dismiss its overt political message. Boon yeah even though "all art is political" the heart and souls of this show is the children and the world of politics that surrounds them.
A lot of black political art is as much self-critical as it is critical of the other. Many people miss the message entirely. You see this in Boondocks in criticisms from well-meaning white people, to clueless wealthy mixed-race children, to destructive black figures. Boondocks relates the importance of black empowerment in the face of such obstacles. The core message is about establishing a healthy autonomy.
Judas and the Black Messiah actually surprised me with how explicitly socialist -- even Maoist -- it showed Hampton and the Black Panthers to be.
Now granted it definitely could've gone farther, but I was still pleasantly surprised and even kind of shocked that it went as far as it did. Definitely suggest you give it a watch
Correct me if im wrong, but weren't they a socialist group, what made you surprised?
@@dimdude1 very yes
@@dimdude1 I'm guessing they're surprised by the fact that they didn't scrub that part out.
@@dimdude1 that a Hollywood movie was willing to show that rather than conceal and downplay it like with MLK for example I'd assume
Yeah what everyone else said. Generally movies being released by large studios in the USA tend to not paint communists in a good light.
Like I was expecting the movie to give Hampton and the Black Panthers a vague label of "socialists" and leaving it at that.
I wasn't expecting them to be explicitly referred to as communists, much less highlight Hampton's quote about not fighting Capitalism with black Capitalism, or have Hampton explicitly discuss Mao, etc.
I hated that people thought Falcon and the Winter Soldier was too political… When Captain America himself is completely political.
What was Captain America’s political perspective?
@@sonofliberty8872 Him representing an entire country and its ideals is political in itself. Taking on Fascism, fighting for “freedom and the American way”, etc.
@@forestpark73 Understandable.
@@sonofliberty8872 I appreciate that 🙏🏾. I’m a veteran myself, so I resonate with the entirety of what Captain America is. He’s my favorite of the Avengers.
@@forestpark73 Much respect, you are more of a Son of Liberty than I may ever be.
Like many have said, when it comes to Black Media its usually met with “too woke” or its “too political”. Its like how when _Get Out_ first was out, people were crying it too woke and too much. But in reality, its just not something the majority just couldnt fathom. Boondock’s first season hits hard because it wanted to get that point across that everything black is usually handled differently compared to white. Which is where the problem lies.
I hate when poeple act like politics doesnt affect people
For a unscripted video, it was good. You should try it again.
You're giving them too much credit. Too political means the message makes them uncomfortable because it's true. Covert dog whistles
I understand that, but I'm not about to assume that everyone saying black media is too political has bad intentions. I've seen a significant number of black people express these sentiments, and I don't think it's right to come in and say "if you're black and uncomfortable with seeing your trauma on TV screens for entertainment, that's on you."
I don't care for the right wing heads scowling every time a form of black art makes a point about police brutality or systemic racism, but I do understand the saturation of uninspired media saying nothing. The issue isn't politics in black media, in my opinion. It's just the uninspired product being created.
@@TheStorytellerAJ In my opinion as a black man, I would say too political is the wrong word, and your last statement I think hits the nail. It seems like whenever someone creates a show involving Black people or any other minority they all seem to follow the same routine. Police brutality, racism, activism etc. It's always expressed in a very over exaggerated manor that most people can't even relate to. It makes it looks like writers can't write show without throwing in the same Hollywood routine because they think that's what we want to see. So they just poorly write something up and throw it in. When a show involving minorities is made it's like the writers have no choice but to include these things to the point it's over saturated. Including something for the sake of including it really shows in the quality.
Dummies saying that people criticize as "being too political" anything that deviates from the norm, aka anything that isn't white, male, or straight. But there is a difference between a show offering political commentary and a show dividing people into groups of oppressors and victims based on their identity.
The Simpsons at its best were often political, talking about corruption, inmigration and the influence of money in elections, yet everybody loves it. But shows that fetishize black people, homosexuals and women, dividing people on identity groups, often making grotesque caricatures out of them, while pushing for "equality", are generally disliked and dismissed as "too political", as they come across as preachy and divisive.
Yet, that would be an inaccurate label, as the problem is not that a show comments on political issues, but the fact that they devolve into dividing people according to their group identity, which is equated to "politics".
You can make a show based around black characters, which would deviate from "the norm", that isn't labeled as "too political" if you just don't base their entire personality on them being black, and actually treat them as human beings, with actual personalities beyond their race.
Literally just watched the entirety of Sorry To Bother You as soon as you mentioned it and I'm coming back rn to just say what to fuck.
I need time to think. Glad I got this video to watch.
Why do people use the word "political" like the word "propaganda"? Also Boondocks is more culture parody as a bunch of in-jokes by Black creators who got to make the show they wanted with adult swims help. Like noir ceaser's all black manga american small company is also just writing what they want repping the very same kinds of stories they would like along with what others would
Next thing you gonna hear "Is black people existing too political????"
Politics will never be thrown out of art. The people who complain that things are “too political” aren’t the people making the art. Art comes from deep inside you. You have to actually be able to feel something. So politics and art are two sides of the same coin.
Sorry to bother you was so good. Its definitely a movie that made people uncomfortable
Yay to some more unscripted content from the heart.
Being black in the media will always be political I think the issue with our culture is there is literally very little balance these days. There are the same 5 or so black creators making “political” content being praised by white people and when you then look at the content……it seems very stereotypical. We need balance. Not just political “correctness”
There's only four black creators in Hollywood: Kenya Barris, issa Rae, lena waithe, Ave duvernay. We need room for other black creators
@@Dm34421 Oh goodness... That's bleak. Every last one of those people nearly exclusively makes content designed for the white gaze.
It doesn’t help that the stuff made with black creators that gets any sort of acknowledgment is usually stuff that’s about black suffering. I don’t mind movies about slavery or the civil rights, but goddamn it’s always that depressing soul crushing shit and it’s almost always directed mainly at white people rather than making something FOR black people. No wonder Black Panther felt like a breath of fresh air to many.
Maybe in American media
@@Dm34421 Also Kevin Hooks, but I'm going to assume most people here aren't old enough to know about his films (If we're talking about TV, you seen some of his work before), and even if you are, they're not that popular, hell his most popular film is Black Dog, a film you would've assume it was made by Hal Needham
This is was unscripted? I’d be down for more unscripted videos! Still very informative and engaging ❤️
Could you do a video of how you feel about black panther and the politics surrounding it? Also what’s the ending song lol
When people say black continent is too political... Bottom line it's mostly conservative right leaning white people feeling nervous that black people want to change systems like criminal justice system, education, housing, red lining, loan discrimination, and bridging the Gap of economic mobility for black people. And honestly that scares some white people.
Because they're okay with seeing an occasional black person working a high status job. But if they find out more and more are going to work into those high status jobs it terrifies them. I think some white people really tell on themselves when they deny someone racism but they fear that if if black people move into positions of power they will try to use it to push systemic racism against white people. Strange but not not surprising that racist white people will project racism on to other people.
I like the new unscripted format. It felt like there was a slight bit of repetition at points but overall you got your thoughts and explanations across pretty well.
On topic heres hoping for more Black political media in the future. I feel like as more BIPOC take control of media platforms/distribution/companies we will start to see a lot more Black media of all types just as more women-centric media started gaining traction as soon as more women were allowed in executive seats and began owning companies (not that I am saying capitalism is good or anything, just that when diverse groups own media companies they can make media that suits them).
As globalization continues I believe hopefully we will also see non-American Black media enter the cultural zeitgeist more readily just as Korean and Japanese media have done. You can already see the beginnings of people becoming interested in Nigerian television/cinema for instance which is quite exciting.
Good humor comes from subversion and about taboos, and i meaning punsh up taboos. Confronting the uncomfortable via comedy. Which a lot of political a lot of times.
If people say its comedy, yes , but its good comedy because its so political. And on point and and good because its real..
I can't stand the criticism of something being too political, like any narrative theme would be political
Great art is political
Also politics isn't good all the time take for instances all the dumb and terrible stories written and you should like cause you black.
Yay, I'd talk to you but have nothing to talk about.
It can easily go in the direction of pandering when light is given to black culture, but what's often forgotten is that black people are still people. They develop and change just like anyone else, and you can still make really good stories with that in mind. The way i see it, trying to politicise the media is just looking too far into it, cuz it's still case by case. If covered like this a story has alot more chance to impact the community than covering the community as a whole and being like "And this is how down the black folk are". Imagine if someone did the same shit for white people, same concept, same cringe
Exactly most of the issues come down to portrayals. In black media we're either portrayed as "revolutionary heroes who fight for the social change" or the most prejudice and exaggerated stereotypes white people could laugh at. The main premise of any black show shouldn't be "we have black people and they do this" it's sad because that's a tactic used to try to get more black viewers as the "targeted audience" and it works so much it distracts you from the original agenda the show intended.
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰It was political intentionally. It is all based on the Black American Experience....positive? We wake up every morning BLACK!!! I do love your content it makes me think! Can we work together? Although my content is Black and political.
I would like mo0re unscripted vids.
I want to know about this "left wing lens" in the show cause I understand that Huey is a radical left leaning guy but everyone hated him and what were the positive episodes about black culture cause I don't remember those ?
Everyone did not hate Huey. Who were you hanging out with? I loved Huey, and so did most of the people I knew.
never met a person who hated or disliked Huey.
Huey is supposed to represent a black radical. He's also meant to act as the straight-man character in a crazy world where almost everyone else is some caricature. He is similar to Lisa Simpson's character in that they're both framed as being the only sane person.
Most characters in the show disagree with Huey or don't take him seriously but Huey is almost never proven wrong. Huey often delivers a speech towards an episode's conclusion that serves as the aesop of the episode. The underlying joke with Huey is that people will always disagree with what he has to say, even if its the truth.
Boondocks is political satire and (very well written) social commentary on the black social condition in the US. Its also a pretty cynical show and, if memory serves, Huey is the show's only cynical character. Most episodes are in line with Huey's cynical perspective on black culture.
As for the show being leftist or having a "left-wing lens" - The Boondocks is never heavy handed or preachy but it is never ambiguous about its politics or on the stances it takes. The only thing is the show often says things or takes stances that leftists wouldn't oppose but that in itself might not be sufficient evidence to say the show is leftist.
Boondocks is quite openly critical of black masculinity. With multiple episodes dedicated to how it can be very self-destructive. That's a very commom leftist position. The right often feels there's nothing wrong with the current form of masculinity and that we actually repress it too much.
The show was also critical of Obama. Or more specifically how black society responded to Obama's first election run. The cynicism towards the euphoria of simply seeing black faces in high places over actual policies is also a common black leftist position. That was one of the major points of Fred Hampton. It also turned out to be a necessary concern as Obama even flat out admitted that judging his presidential terms strictly by policy, he's no different from a 1980's republican.
@@ladybluelotus in the the show
@@MrOzzification read the comics. Heuy stated in the comics one of his goals are to overthrow the regime and replace it with socialism. I dont think the show included that aspect of huey because of the possible backlash from the media
More unscripted videos please!❤❤
Political is what is ‘polled for’ or ‘what some people would vote for’ - why do some people act like anything deviating from the norm is an issue? Only people who don’t realise the norm if f*cked think that black media is too political. If that’s anyone reading this, why is it political to you that black media exists? Is it political that black people exist? Some people who refuse to support Black Lives Matter believe that. It’s shocking that the statement that ‘black lives matter’ is up for debate at all? Some people are so unaware of the institutions they live in.
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judas and the black messiah defineitly talks about socialism fred hampton has 1 main goal and thats building a clinic i recomend watching it. id also like to see a video on it in the future
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Great video as always- your commentary is always insightful and I feel like i learn something new every time!
Politics is when you have minorities and the more minorities there are the more politicaler it is
Have you even watched The Boondocks?
@@youcantbeatk7006 boondocks was political when it was still just a comic strip
@@kakizakichannel Yes it was but how is featuring minorities automatically political? That's the mindset of a white girl on Instagram or a politician tokenizing large groups of people for brownie points.
@@youcantbeatk7006 that's the joke
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Keep it up on your work and this channel
Black media isnt too political. There isn't enough nuance in recent political shows or movies. Shows like boondocks and Atlanta are very nuanced in their political commentary and the black experience while shows like blackish are very stereotypical
Private is political, and anything that pretends different unknowingly enforces an unquestioned status quo
Take control of your own destiny
If we don't tell our story from our perspective, no one will.
Exactly!
"Judas and the Black Messiah" got things right and some things wrong, but overall cool movie, here's a Breadtube essay on the inaccuracies if your curious
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4:00 is the movies "two distant strangers" saw adds for it be I was never a big fan of the time loop storyline in film so i didn't bother
If you have to attach "Black" in it, I'm pretty sure it IS too political. I mean whatever happened to the achievement and position as an Individual? Why does it has to be on the provision of "Black"?
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I also hate when diversity is included racists get upset and say it’s too political when the show just has characters with different races and doesn’t even mention anything about race 🤦♀️
I just dont like when shows or movies prioritize diversity above all. Not even race, can be sex, gender, etc.
@@sonofaquack6987 I get where your coming from because the main thing that’s important is making sure that the film or tv series has a really good storyline and that the characters personalities doesn’t revolve around their race , gender or sexuality but when shows with diversity don’t make those mistakes you still have racists , sexists or homophopic people complaining about it for no reason
It's called tokenism.
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Love 💕 yourself first and most
Have you seen flacon and the winter soldier? If so how'd you like that one?
I never saw the hype around Get Out tbh. And shows like Blackish are also not very good. The writers focus too much on politics instead of focusing on writing a good story and entertaining the audience. The Boondocks has a perfect balance of politics with an entertaining story. And it isn't just Black shows/movies with this problem. My favorite superhero show(live action) is Gotham because unlike the Arrow verse shows(namely Supergirl) it doesn't try to be "woke" or progressive. It just tells us a great story and great/realistic stories are going to have politics in them. The problem isn't certain media being "too political", they're just not that good.
I feel like shit is more often than not black trauma porn for white people...art is going to be political regardless ,i think about that point you made about reading sonic as political. Like its not the point but it's there. I always view my shit as a piece of the whole...how is my art diversifying the whole of black art.
The funny thing is that not only the white people gets called racist when they critique the black slave porn
Hell even as a white guy I hate black trauma porn, like I hate how every period piece with a black cast is going to be a hour and a half of black people going through hell, like give me more period pieces with black cast that aren't trauma porn for the Oscars, one of my reasons that I love Dolomite is my Name is because it's a period piece with a black cast that isn't just injustice where every other scene would have the "MESSAGE!" clip from Don't Be a Menace
more unscripted!!
Ignore those who try to discourage you
don't you ever ignore someone, learn to be strong enough so you don't have blind spots and you can chose which opinions you're going to allow to influence yourself, ignored people can stab you in the back if opportunity arises
That's an awful mindset.
I would ascend if we had unscripted weekly rants from you as long as they are visually and through title branded as distinct from your more edited and scripted content
Black media IS too political, Mayo men can stop watching lol
Don't be racist.
@@mannyoftheeast3318 I haven’t yet
@@CrazyJay516 "yet" I love how this implies that you will start being racist but only at a certain point in time lul. Not shitting on ya, just thought that sounded funny.
Quitters never win and winners never quit
I 💟 this channel
i didn't see joey badass's film, was it any good?
My hot take after reading the title only....
No, I dont think Black media is too political. But I believe that we sont have enough space to explore things other than that, hyper sexualized gangsta culture or slavery.
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Tweety Bird!!!!
Lola bunny
Jk its actually drafty duck.
Bugs bunny
Whacko!
@@sporeham1674 mines is yakko and bugs😊
Somebody just got around to watching, "Them." Huh?
First off, i have yo say the "defund/abolish the police" is some of the most idiotic shit. And that being proven by whats happening in these places where that hss been applied.
That being said, i agree with what you're saying in the video, but i zlso dont like thst every movie, show, etc is opression, slavery, its all white ppl fault type thing. What was the last movie that came out that was interesting and didnt have black ppl in some kinda struggling decent. Not saying we cant have elements of that in the media, but it seems thats all thats being banked on.
cant wait to see earn in season 3
Big spoiler: it isn't
Everything is political whether it intentionally is aware of it being so or not. Even a romcom about one guy being a "loser" for not being rich or traditionally good looking is political for those same reasons even if it isn't intentionally self aware of it.
People just use "too political" nowadays to argue something goes against their views and they don't like being challenged on it.
I saw Judas and the Black Messiah.
They actually did have some pro-socialist messaging. Not nearly as much as there should have been for a movie about Fred Hampton… but I was pleasantly surprised that it said anything at all.
Anyway, the way I look at it is that the movie didn’t co-opt Chairman Hampton and the BPP. And that’s a win for me.
Yeppp.
Even politics itself is what we make it. If you look at the philosophy of it. Politics is basically humans humanning like...
I wouldn’t specifically say it’s one type of media but all of media and entertainment has become too political. There is a way to get across your point without shoving it in someone’s face overtly and telling them their ideas are wrong.
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my thoughts exactly
Boondocks is my shit and if ppl can't see the realness or get over it,fuck em! I've literally don't talk to some ppl about it bcuz,they see it as a cartoon. This y no-one talks about the fourth season,they tried to take over and failed horribly.
yes please more uncripted videos
And both a black person and black woman I totally get and understand where this is coming from but also understand the pros and cons of politics and being a non-white person in America some black people not all of us but we are not innocent our racist sexist homophobic and some of us attend to shy away from serious things that are going on not just in the black community but around the world as if they don't matter and there are some not so positive things in the black community I do think it's because we are lacking resources and lack of communication but that's just my own personal opinion we need to do better as a community as a society as a whole
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Okay but I love Lakeith Stanfield
Don't get it twisted. Most non-Black people only like the Boondocks only because it criticises Black people, not because its political. When a 'Black' show criticises white people/society such as _Falcon and The Winter Soldier,_ they get upset.
That said, there isn't really that much Black media out there, at least on a mainstream level.
Couldn't be more true when it comes to white audiences only caring about black media that criticises black people. If anything dares to critique whiteness, everyone clentches up abit.
Boondocks critiques both which I think is why so many people like it more than when something like Falcon/Winter Soldier does it because those shows don't try to do a "both sides" situation that makes white people feel better about being criticised.
@@caldw615 that's bullsh!t. For one, there doesn't need to be a "both sides". If we're talking about sexual assault, do we need to say 'but men get raped too' when we address women's sexual assaults? But you need it when discussing social and racial injustice?
And it's also BS as the very reason people like the likes of Candace Owens, Officer Tatum and the likes is because they attack Black people and 'Blackness', while defending white people and 'whiteness'.
And it's the very reason they have to have a 'good w- person' in films about racism and slavery, as played out as they are, but they will even go out of their way to make up a fictional 'bad Black guy' as they did in _Harriet._
@@Yawdan That's what I mean, there are many subjects that don't need a "both sides" but anything that only critiques one thing tends to not gel as well with those being criticised, shocking I know? Simply critiquing aspects of black culture and life isn't inherintely turning things into a both sides scenarip BUT many white people look at that and go "Well it isn't JUST me that's the problem" which makes them feel better or even apathetic to their own actions.
I think Storyteller was mainly talking about when pollitical commentary just parrots maybe the general message everyone already knows like "Police are shooting blacks and that's bad" without actually adding anything of substance to it. Like WHY is this still a problem? Is it an issue with the police itself? Is it an individual issue where the types of people who seek authority roles for the sake of power over others? Is there a reason they are like that (i.e. couldn't make it in the military, toxic parental figures teaching them stuff like "might makes right" or to obey authority without question)
Boondocks criticises things like racism as a whole but it also tries to explore why racism still occurs without justifiying it (BET pumping out absolute garbage TV shows for black viewers to consume feeding them information that isn't actually useful for handling day to day life or glorifying reality TV wealth status/rap star influence as the end goal to being successful)
@@caldw615 'things that are one sided don't gel well' yet people that dislike Black shows that address white and social racism happen to like the likes of Candace Owens.
And did you actually just try to defend racism by saying BET causes it? Lol. Yo you stepped into a discussion you ain't built for. I'll dead this for you still
My mans you gotta watch judas and the black messiah
Gotta say the fact that Michiko Malandro is on the thumbnail grabbed my attention, immediately. The video was great & knowledgeable.
Track playing at the end called?
I'm enjoying the unscripted videos!!!
Do you plan on checking out and reviewing Judas and the Black Messiah? I found it surprisingly upfront about how Fred Hampton and the Black Panthers were Socialists.
the off the dome material hits, all for it 100%
What's your opinion on the recent release of Bill Cosby ?
It's cause' he's rich and not because he's black.
#Restore the Huxtables!
@@TheStorytellerAJ that is way more of a divide than the silly skin color debate yeah history but at some point we have to move on or we enslave ourselves for the next 500 years with the self inferiority mentality
I'm a conservative, and i fucking love boondocks. I enjoy just having a real black show that's for the most part honest regardless of leaning
I'm curious, if you don't mind responding, how do you feel about the content on this channel?
@@anthonynorman7545 i think it's super interesting and gives me a look into different people's thoughts and experiences
@@devking13 fairenough! thank you for responding :)
You're a neocon.
@@youcantbeatk7006 how is that helpful?
Yo what's da song at da end?
Rashid Hadee - Whatever it takes
Where is the thumbnail from
It is not too political, there is plenty of media that is void of politics. People just are uncomfortable by politics
I don't even know what it means for something to be "void of politics." Politics are in everything.
@@TheStorytellerAJ void of politics means affirms the status quo. It can't mean anything else
This isn't about the video, but dude when are you dropping your Playlist.
I have one already.
@@TheStorytellerAJ I was talking about your music G
@@isaiahmarshall2704 I know
Watch Judas it wasn't downplayed very based and good movie
I feel Black media can be political at times, but not to a point where I would turn my back to it. Media now focuses on (their definition of) issues I couldn't care less about. Black media has done this and some I've stuck around for, boondocks and others being the reason I got into learning politics. But they don't do it too much, which I'm fine with.
3:59 what movie is this?
Two Distant Strangers. It got Joey Badass in it, but it's effectively just watching a black guy get shot continuously for half an hour for no real reason.
@@TheStorytellerAJ lol okay, thanks for the heads-up.
I consider things like this current events. If the shit is still happening why would I not talk about it. Everyone else reuses the same tropes so why can't I.
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Weird you're uploading so much now, but it's good, the main reason why I start liking Boondocks so much as a kid was because it pointed out problems in the black community that I couldn't really put into words at the time but I knew was bad.
Sorry to bother you is one of the best damned movies to come out in the past decade and for all the love it gets is still WAY underrated
The problem with seeing black media being "too political", is that it's done by contrasting it to traditional media & by extension anything a black content creator makes is "political". A black creator wants to make a film in a traditionally white space, i.e. Black Panther and suddenly people come out of the woodwork to denounce it or de-legitimize it's existence by saying things like, "Why isn't there a White Panther?"
That's the most retarded argument I've ever heard
Maybe calling things slurs to undermine arguments kind of undermines your point.
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How so? I'd really like to hear your opinion, thank you.
I kind of understand what your saying but your phrasing and analogy were awful bro its misleading lol
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Maybe, but when something as broad and purposely inoffensive as a marvel movie is criticised by some for being too political. It becomes more difficult to see anything that has an actual message gain any mainstream traction.
Bro.... Watch Judas and the Black Messiah right now 😤
i like this style. it felt like a podcast.