Also, I unfortunately have 3 shitstain service stars on my account for this thing. Just to get the Defensive variant, because I like to collect things in-game.
Whenever I get killed by a 100 service star hellriegel I have to sit in my chair and think about why this person never gets bored limiting themselves to only one weapon or just how much time the spend playing this game. It’s fascinating.
I dont use it anymore couse i know that when i get killed by heirigel with 100 service stars im not enjojing it. I much prefer mp18 and that french carbine.
PURPLEDURPLEDOO Every BF had these broken unbalanced weapons. Look at the M416 in BF3 or the AEK/Famas I agree tho, the weapon balance update should habe released maybe 3 months into the game, not a year late. But it seems all BF1 content takes horribly long (looking at you Incursions and DLCs).. and Ice no idea why
The Hellriegal is just a weapon that doesn’t involve much skill, just turns BF1 into a point and click game since you can easily drop a few people in front of you
in the current state of the game if you loose against a hellriegell on pc it is that you were bad, this weapon is beatable if you are skilled enough, but the autistico is litterally invincibility in close ranges, even if you shoot first and land hs, the autistico noobs have only to hipfire you and will win with only bodyshot. on console however i saw footages of the hellriegell and yeah it was pretty pathetic
MarsSWBF on console it's so broken that i feel bad for getting kills with it, in fact, with over 100 hours of playtime, i only have like 15 kills with it
It makes no sense that people love the Hellreigel. It’s so overpowered and no matter what DICE does to it, it’s always going to be overpowered. It pulls people away from medic and support classes because it’s like “oh why be helpful to the team when I can get a shit ton of kills with the assault?”
I don't even feel like I've played with it to much and I already have 15 service stars. Definitely one of the funnest weapons because up close no-one stands a chance and at range it's actually decent as long as you are tapping the trigger.
Yet you still clicked on it! 😂This video is part of my Best Weapons series so I'm not simply going to exclude a weapon category when it's the viewers who decide! I mean, I didn't expect the Ribeyrolles to come second!
Westie I clicked on it because I watch every video you post despite of how good or bad it is, since you’re most reliable for BF news imo. You have no idea how many times I’ve used weapons you recommended in-game and soon became my favourite weapons for the classes. Except for the SMLE of course, my heart will always belong to the Lebel :)
+beastabuelos It is op, and anyone who uses it sucks at the game. What rank are you? Because im max rank in all classes and, have put hundreds of hours into the game, and it is obvious that it is op.
It isn't that great even if you manage to hit the firecap which is just 359 RPM (about 6 clicks per second). Most players manage to reach that. If you fire faster, you will actually oversample and shoot slower than that. I just put all SMGs against each other on symthic and it shows that at all ranges, the M1917 Carbine has the slowest time to kill in its class, even if you managed to consistently hit that maximum firecap.
I love it tbh 9 service stars right now (albeit was using the other guns as well). It's just the remedial tap firing is what I like and also the fact that the hipfire is just godly. I believe in the TTK patch it will have it's old CTE 34 Max damage and 23 min damage in close to far range respectively. It will be able to compete just like a faster shooting medic rifle with 41 rounds to boot.
yea it is getting a big buff in the patch, The reason the m1917 carbine is ok in terms of TTK is that you literally never have to ADS inside of 35 meters, lowering your TTK substantially.
The Hellriegel was my favorite assault weapon until i managed to unlock the Ribeyrolles and it changed everything, it's just such a good and underrated weapon i've seen like only 3 people using it (on console) and it really saddens me.
Flying Cupcake Yeah I like how the Ribeyrolles can be used at far distances with the bipod. Reminds me more of playing a Support role with the plus of having a Rocket Gun and Explosives on hand.
Flying Cupcake I like it a lot but it's really a handful of you're not using the bi-pod. Once you use the Farquhar Optical in medic it's hard to go back
Good enough for close quarters i guess (without using the bipod at least), also tbh i just use the normal Farquhar for some reason i can't handle optical in BF1
No take out the hellriegel it's one of the most hated looked down upon weapon in the game.Only noobs or bad players like using this weapon because they can do well with it proving its a OP weapon and should be either removed or heavily debuffed.
jdc527 Gaming Yee in my opinion the only reason to use it is when you first unlock it. After a few hours of gameplay of it, you should start to gravitate back to two of the most versatile SMG's: the mp18 experimental and ribeyerolles.
The hellreigel is so OP i cant stand it. I hate to think that players who get loads of kills with it think they are great players. I avoid using it out of principle just because it is so overused.
I dont see them as skilled even if they have the 100 service star on it, i see them not pretty good with smgs like ribeyrolles or (somehow) the M1917 Trench Carbine
I avoid using actual overpowering things like elite kits, behemoths and gas grenades. A gun is a just gun no matter how annoying it is but there’s always a way to counter everything tho *shrugs shoulders*
Hellriegel is not op. It gets outgun by shotguns, automatico, revolvers and al8.35/8.25 at cqc and at mid range by pretty much all slr, ribey, mp18 and some lmgs. The only good thing is the mag.
Samuel J. Stuhlinger in cqc nearly 60% of all assault weapons are better than the hellriegel. In mid range, the rest of assault weapons, all slr, 50% of lmg are better than the hellriegel. The odds of encountering one of these guns is almost certain. The difference is positionning and the skill of the players that differentiate the result at the end.
M1917 trench. I don't use the noobriegel on sheer principle. It makes me feel like a noob. No skill needed. I hope they nerf the crap out of it or give it so much recoil it's like trying to aim while having an epileptic fit.
M1917 trench carbine for me also, love that gun...so satisfying to kill with, gain no pleasure from a hellriegel kill, and I tea bag anyone I kill who I see using one, I tea bag an enemy someone else has killed who I see using one, and even team mates who I see get killed whilst using it.
I bag hellreigel users too. I just wonder why players dont want to challenge themselves. If I'm playing well I'll switch to something i don't use often to mix it up. Hellreigel users are the kinda players that would stay on a team that heavily outnumbers the other team to get as many kills as possible whereas i like to make it competitive
My most used gun is the Parabellum. I like it because it's extremely good and dangerous, but still feels rewarding to get kills with due to the insane amount of recoil on it. Especially getting kills on people who are behind cover, and not very exposed, or people at range, without using a bipod, just feels rewarding to me. The Parabellum is my most used gun, but oddly enough I've never used a single gun enough to get over 3,500 kills with. I use everything in the game. I had a service star with mostly every weapon in Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4, including vehicles. I used every mostly every gun. I can't find satisfaction in using one gun for a long time. Especially not being bothered to get 100 stars with one, because I just can't be asked to use one gun for that long. I just don't see enjoyment in that.
The results of your polls are very easy to predict: people vote for the easiest weapon to use. Hellriegel and Fedorov are the most "noob" weapons in their respective classes.
Nicholas Everytime I see someone with 100 stars with Hellriegel or Model 10 Hunter I start boiling inside. Not only are those weapons easiest to use, they are severely overused. According to statistics, of all shotguns, Model 10-A Hunter is used about 75% of time. Sometimes I think that once your reach 25 stars with the Hellriegel or Model 10 Hunter, you shouldn't be able to use it anymore.
I don't understand people who can use a gun so much that they get 100 service stars with it. I literally have 3 guns that have more than 2 service stars but the rest pretty much has 2 or 1 service star. I just find myself wanting variety in what gun I use.
I don't really like the fedorov that much, the range is terrible. I much prefer the mondragon *Cough* over the Fedorov. I haven't yet unlocked the Hellriegel yet.
Please dont beg people to watch the entire video. Instead you shouldent say anything like stick around to the end but the people Who make it to the end should be in for a little treat.
I'm not begging :) It would make no sense to include a poll for another video in the series at the start. I leave it till the end for continuity reasons and so the viewer experience is linear, not needing to skip ahead or back for any reason :)
It's not begging, it's there to keep people interested. You will constantly find this stuff, like when a movie switches to advertisments or at the start of an article.
Ze insane Medic Yeah the thing is a lot of youtubers like to do so in order to get more watchtime and more ad revenue. an exelet example is the rischest. tho westies reply explained to me why he did it. iapologize to westie if he felt like i was acusing him.
I think it's not even a problem. If he wants to keep us watching, I don't blame him. You wouldn't want to have your effort go to waste either. I even put myself on the other side and say it's good that he manages to keep us interested.
The ribeyrolles is particularly great because as an anti-vehicle class it should be used in more medium/long range fights. There aren’t a whole lot of other weapons that are good for that in the class.
And the vertical recoil can be viewed as a good thing as you fire at center body mass, and it recoils up to the headshot finish. One of the funnest guns in the game.
I believe that the SMG 08/18 is the most underrated SMG in Bf1. The recoil is extremely low and its 80 round drum magazine is just fantastic for playing Operations or some Conquest maps.
I've played BF1 on console since about March 2017. I don't think the reason the Hellriegel is so popular is because of the snap aim; I think it was because of easy-to-control recoil. It is a lot harder to aim and control recoil on controller, so the Hellriegel's lack of recoil made it very easy to use.
My favourite SMG is the M1917 Trench Carbine. It is great for when you have a large group of enemy that you have snuck up on as you can kill up to 10 people without having to reload (in theory, in practice it is usually 4-6 people max before you have to reload). It isn't too bad at range but it does take quite a few bullets to kill that pesky medic or sniper.
With reading Reddit and RUclips comments it's already no secret that the Automatico is considered overpowered on PC, while the Hellriegel is considered overpowered on consoles. So this poll is pretty much just showing on what platform the playbase is spread out on.
You should run a server 24/7 st Quentin scar, disable all firearms melee and grenade only, I would say pistol but they were in shortage for the entirety of the war operations and rush only
Glad you mentioned the difference between the Hellriegel on PC vs Console. Looking at the top 100 stats for the Hellriegel, and its dominated by console players. The AA even after nerf is just too strong of a draw to change from the Hellriegel for most console players. The Automatico/Ribeyrolles/MP18 Optical are my personal top three on both console and PC.
Only one puzzle piece away from the Russian award knife and I have completed the Fire and Ice campaign 10 freaking times, just to get some puzzle pieces
The 1917 Trench carbine is a new love. Accuracy is just crazy. Can fire at 150m and kill someone. Might take 15 rounds because it's a pistol cartridge but you got 41 of them bad boys.
Hellreigel defensive is overlooked compared to the Factory. The 120 rounds per mag make it insanely good for close range fights where the recoil is controllable and you rarely run short of ammo when in combat. Factory is great for medium range but short /long the defensive comes up top
60 ammo magazine with no overheating, EXTREMELY accurate, VERY high rate of fire, barely ANY recoil, fast reload speed, start with 3 drum mags adding up to 180 bullets. There are no downsides to this weapon, only upsides. At least with the Automagical your magazine is much smaller and the weapon spread much higher. I've played BF1 for hundreds and hundreds of hours and can only conclude this weapon needs to be nerfed sooner rather than later. I mean this weapon pretty much falls into the LMG category with all the SMG benefits. I'm not salty about it, just realistic. I know a lot of people feel the same way about this weapon.
when the hellriegel was was introduced however it had only 1 extra mag of ammo, when i unlocked it i ran out of ammo fast after a couple of kills and if there wasnt a support player nearby that actually gave ammo then it was useless. Only started using it again after DICE gave it 120 extra rounds of ammo ie 2 mags and it was my main choice for a very long time, till a few months ago when the ribbeyrolles became my main weapon of choice
Thanks! This is tremendous advice. I am support level 50 and scout level 50, but assault level 5. I play close-medium range. The assault class has always seemed a little underpowered to me as far as guns, but your video has inspired me to play around a little more.
Why is there such a major difference between the i56600k and the i75820k. Do you set your priority for this game in task manager to high, because that is what I have to do with my 6600k that i overclocked to 4.2ghz.
Assult is my least used kit . Support & Medic help my team out way more often . And Scout is kinda like lay back make a drink and try and shoot someone. But when you finally get that shot it is satisfaction!
How was the selbalstlader m1916 so low on the poll? It's such a good weapon if you use 2.5 magnification on the marksman variation. Iron sights suck, but the scope is pretty good. You get a really good balance of range and CQ combat as long as you're not facing one of 3 things: an automatico, a shotgun, or just a plain really good player that can outplay the damage the selbalstlader can put out (2 body shot, or 3 if you get a leg shot if you can forgive the low-ish fire rate). If you play smart, you can easily take our squads of 4 or 5 people (I've done so consistently ever since I started using this weapon). The fedorov is the only competitor and it makes up for a mild lack of skill in CQ and medium range, but otherwise falls slightly behind, especially at longer distances. It also only has iron sights I believe, which is a big turn-off. I usually end up with the highest amount of kills and revives with this weapon, but my heals lag behind as I use them for myself most of the time since I play really aggressively.
MY BABY! THE RIBEYE MADE IT!!! That weapon is SOOOO underrated. It's my most used Assault weapon (not counting shottys) by far. If you overlooked it and are reading this, USE IT. You will not regret. Also due to my testing on CTE, the weapon's patch makes it even stronger, as Westie said.
MP18 is best smg. I've wrecked people with hellriegels. It's the best gun in most overall situations. You can reach out with burst fire and surprise snipers. Go full auto in a room full of people. It's so satisfying to kill with this gun it's my best assault weapon with over 1500 kills. I haven't played alot since the first 3 months btw. Got to lvl 86 in a couple weeks. Got bored and went to bf4.
Noobriegel on PS4 is just ridiculous, it really needs either less ammo or to overheat a lot faster than it does. Being able to kill 3-4 enemies that easy is just broken
Kaisser's Maid Cafe And Knife Sparring Club The M1917 Trench carbine and the M1216 that came with Turning tides are both very good, but still very balanced as well
Very surprised to see Automatico at number 3. I thought it would’ve been the MP18. Also don’t feel like Ribey should even be on this list. It sounds like people voted to put it on there because of the new patch coming out and thinking, “Well, it’s probably going to be a lot better now. It’s gonna beat a lot more. Number 2.”
For medic, RSC 1917 gets my vote. 2nd and third would be the Selbstlader 1906 and the Farquhar-Hill. The General Liu I like as well but I need to sharpen my handling with it. I enjoyed using the Federov when it came out but the RSC is still so much better and more satisfying to use. Two shots, next.
In my opinion, I think the automatico is the best assault weapon BUT I really enjoy the new m1912 machine pistol. It’s pretty much the balanced version of the automatico and super fun to play with
Heilregals.... welll.... the clip is so big you could essentially take out 4 ppl at once in close quarters. I think the Automatico isn't quite as OP simply cause you don't have the amount of ammo and therefore have to plan it out if there's more than two ppl where you're about to assault. Ribey has a place in my heart. It just feels good :)
What really satisfy me in hellriegel is the drum mag. I really like almost every old school weapon which has drum on them. Gives me the feeling i can just walk and fire and fire. Ribeyrolles is also one of my faves due being more like modern weapon in a way. Overall good TOP 3 what you people voted for! :)
Can someone just tell me which one has the highest rate of fire and a magazine that's all I want to know but your talking about everything before you get the rate of fire, damage, ADS time, reload time
Whenever I use the Hellreigal I feel bad, it's so accurate when you burst fire it, so whenever I make a long shot with it I feel the pain because if i was that guy I would've been annoyed
Yes sir, it's like the cei rigotti on steroids. Hits just land, i've out-sniped snipers with it just from the awesome accuracy. Fedorov is good too, but it kicks too much.
That's a bit debatable. The Fedorov is monster at close range, the Selbstlader 1916 has a bigger capacity and almost identical ROF and the 1906 has extremely clean irons with excellent mid to long range capability, the RSC 1917 is a two-shot kill maximum, but the Farquhar-Hill is kind of like the jack of all trades.
I seriously don't understand the serious hate behind the hellreigal on PC, the only times i've ever gotten pissed towards someone after being killed by it is people that are really bad, have terrible 5% accuracy etc but still get the kill due to the large amount of bullets in the clip. It's just such an avg gun with a lot of bullets, avg RPM, avg recoil, avg dmg I think people getting mad and claiming OP is more placebo than anything atm. I am really happy my Ribeyrolles got some love, its ok in close quarters only really gets wrecked by automatico or shotguns but far superior to the other smgs/assault weapons at mid range enough where you aren't just restricted to fighting in close quarters 100% of the time. Also minor detail you forgot to mention +Westie the ribeyrolles does slightly more dmg at range (minimum damage) than the other smgs.
The Ribeyrolles is criminally underused such a versatile weapon
////////// agreed
////////// I have 20 service stars with it, its my favorite weapon
But the lawbringer carries the most versatile weapon ever invented!
////////// I started using it a few days ago, it's my new favorite weapon for assault
Azdie Me too... It's so good
I don't use the Hellreigel anymore because it's literally TOO easy... I hope the weapons balance patch makes us see alot less of it...
Apparently it will stay at 23 DPS.
Also, I unfortunately have 3 shitstain service stars on my account for this thing.
Just to get the Defensive variant, because I like to collect things in-game.
Jason N. I spawned in and got a 7-1 multikill with it within it trying, that’s when and why I stopped using it.
Limppu Man I have 4 wth factory and 2 with defensive...I wish I could get that amount of time back
Going 60-8 with a Hellriegel isn’t an actual accomplishment. Any performance lower than that would be mediocre lol
Whenever I get killed by a 100 service star hellriegel I have to sit in my chair and think about why this person never gets bored limiting themselves to only one weapon or just how much time the spend playing this game. It’s fascinating.
Michael Magdaleno EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS THANK YOU
Michael Magdaleno simple we dont have dlc 😂😂
Dude I feel pity seeing people having 100 service stars with one weapon. I just feel so bad for them lol.
Hellriegel is everywhere on PS4, i rather use the Ribeyrolles or the M1917 carbine as well as the mp18 trench, i love hipfiring
Erwin Rommel those 3 are the actual smgs that takes skill to master .-.
If people Tbag me I will get the riegel out lol, otherwise I play support or scout
Erwin Rommel they're retarded and only use that damn gun but I LOVE the ribeyrolls
yup 5 or more every game im in
And the automatico is everywhere on pc
Hellriegel needs a 20% vertical and 20% horizontal recoil increase, 15% slower reload and 17,5% worse overheat threshold to make it more balanced.
I dont use it anymore couse i know that when i get killed by heirigel with 100 service stars im not enjojing it. I much prefer mp18 and that french carbine.
Kristjan Prodan Do you mean the Trench Carabine or the Ribeyrolles
Noot Noot Gaming riberyrolles
Kristjan Prodan i have like 2 service stars on every weapon, i cant use the same weapon a lot with out getting bored
The Hellriegel is complete BS and hope that Battlefield 2018 won't see weapons this unbalanced and rebalance weapons a year after it comes out.
PURPLEDURPLEDOO Every BF had these broken unbalanced weapons. Look at the M416 in BF3 or the AEK/Famas
I agree tho, the weapon balance update should habe released maybe 3 months into the game, not a year late. But it seems all BF1 content takes horribly long (looking at you Incursions and DLCs).. and Ice no idea why
Mister K But at least they didn't have 60 round mags or a variant with 120.
PURPLEDURPLEDOO Sure but atleast the helrigel isn't a lazer beam at every range...
PURPLEDURPLEDOO Not saying that it isn't broken though... I hate that gun...
PURPLEDURPLEDOO I agree with you all the way.I love the weapon balance in BF4..now that was a great balanced shooter if I do say so myself!
The Hellriegal is just a weapon that doesn’t involve much skill, just turns BF1 into a point and click game since you can easily drop a few people in front of you
I Hate Denmark yeah just like the B.A.R
Water Malone but the bar has 20 bullets
in the current state of the game if you loose against a hellriegell on pc it is that you were bad, this weapon is beatable if you are skilled enough, but the autistico is litterally invincibility in close ranges, even if you shoot first and land hs, the autistico noobs have only to hipfire you and will win with only bodyshot. on console however i saw footages of the hellriegell and yeah it was pretty pathetic
Its the repeat of the AEK-971 and ACE-23 from BF4. Honestly, DICE just needs to do something about the Assault class in general.
Isn't that the point ? Aim and kill ? If you think is op then use ot get good with it then kill people complaining is not gaining you anything
I hate the Hellriegel
I hate nothing
9/10 of my deaths are Hellriegels
ReyGamingFPS no
MarsSWBF me too
MarsSWBF on console it's so broken that i feel bad for getting kills with it, in fact, with over 100 hours of playtime, i only have like 15 kills with it
It makes no sense that people love the Hellreigel. It’s so overpowered and no matter what DICE does to it, it’s always going to be overpowered. It pulls people away from medic and support classes because it’s like “oh why be helpful to the team when I can get a shit ton of kills with the assault?”
Negative AKA Labronum new TTK 2.0 will change that
yea by making it even move overpowered, dice confirmed that hellriegel is also getting damage increase.
Vadim Kavecsky Not really. Now other weapons will be on par with hellrieger and automatico
Negative AKA Labronum when the bf1 community bitches so much about the hellriegel they remove it from the game, top 10 anime plot twists
Vadim Kavecsky they said its gonna stay 5btk tho
Before watching the video:
1st: No-honor-riegel
2nd: Autistico
3rd: New Mini Uzi
Colonel 100 ha nope, number two being the ribeyrolles shows there's a shred of decency left in the assault class
Thank jesus
3rd the machinepistol? I just got my first service star with it.
I don't even feel like I've played with it to much and I already have 15 service stars. Definitely one of the funnest weapons because up close no-one stands a chance and at range it's actually decent as long as you are tapping the trigger.
theycallmemunn exactly
Don't you just love it when you throw a grenade and you do 248 damage to an enemy.
Yuno Gasai and it still doesn’t kill anyone 😂
KGBkilla97 IKR
Yuno Gasai It shows 248 cause the grenade hit few people and game combined the damage. Same goes for any explosive.
Pointless video: We all know what number one was going to be.
Yet you still clicked on it! 😂This video is part of my Best Weapons series so I'm not simply going to exclude a weapon category when it's the viewers who decide! I mean, I didn't expect the Ribeyrolles to come second!
Westie I clicked on it because I watch every video you post despite of how good or bad it is, since you’re most reliable for BF news imo. You have no idea how many times I’ve used weapons you recommended in-game and soon became my favourite weapons for the classes. Except for the SMLE of course, my heart will always belong to the Lebel :)
Cholera PHD Alright chill man
The answer will be obsolete in a couple of days when the update comes
BLaCKoNi666 lord Farquhar is pretty good
I ❤️ the Ribeyrolles
"Best" that is a strange way of saying OP
jack isb3 still the best u mong
OP is an Understatement i think its so
BBBRRROOOKKKEEENNN
Not really
iX Relaxx
yes
+beastabuelos
It is op, and anyone who uses it sucks at the game. What rank are you? Because im max rank in all classes and, have put hundreds of hours into the game, and it is obvious that it is op.
I love the MP18 Trench😀
I hate how nobody loves the M1917 Carbine. It's a great weapon if you have a quick trigger finger.
It isn't that great even if you manage to hit the firecap which is just 359 RPM (about 6 clicks per second). Most players manage to reach that. If you fire faster, you will actually oversample and shoot slower than that.
I just put all SMGs against each other on symthic and it shows that at all ranges, the M1917 Carbine has the slowest time to kill in its class, even if you managed to consistently hit that maximum firecap.
I love it tbh 9 service stars right now (albeit was using the other guns as well). It's just the remedial tap firing is what I like and also the fact that the hipfire is just godly. I believe in the TTK patch it will have it's old CTE 34 Max damage and 23 min damage in close to far range respectively. It will be able to compete just like a faster shooting medic rifle with 41 rounds to boot.
yea it is getting a big buff in the patch, The reason the m1917 carbine is ok in terms of TTK is that you literally never have to ADS inside of 35 meters, lowering your TTK substantially.
I just unlocked that M1917 Trench Carbine and I love it
The Hellriegel was my favorite assault weapon until i managed to unlock the Ribeyrolles and it changed everything, it's just such a good and underrated weapon i've seen like only 3 people using it (on console) and it really saddens me.
Flying Cupcake
Yeah I like how the Ribeyrolles can be used at far distances with the bipod. Reminds me more of playing a Support role with the plus of having a Rocket Gun and Explosives on hand.
Flying Cupcake I like it a lot but it's really a handful of you're not using the bi-pod. Once you use the Farquhar Optical in medic it's hard to go back
I love the Ribeyrolles. 21 Service Stars, most with any weapon. The M1912 is also pretty fun to use and is pretty balanced imo.
Let me hit it
Good enough for close quarters i guess (without using the bipod at least), also tbh i just use the normal Farquhar for some reason i can't handle optical in BF1
The hellriegel and automatico aren't good weapons... They're used by people who can't a good k.d. with the normal, balanced guns
No take out the hellriegel it's one of the most hated looked down upon weapon in the game.Only noobs or bad players like using this weapon because they can do well with it proving its a OP weapon and should be either removed or heavily debuffed.
Golden Eagle it’s so noobish yet it’s the tier 10 weapon for smg guns in the game. As soon as you pick it up, you’re a noob again and dead to me
jdc527 Gaming Yee in my opinion the only reason to use it is when you first unlock it. After a few hours of gameplay of it, you should start to gravitate back to two of the most versatile SMG's: the mp18 experimental and ribeyerolles.
Whitespartan343 I’ve got about 8 or 9 stars with the mp18 experimental across 2 accounts
I have a high number of kills with the hellriegel but I really just like the way it looks
Hellriegel AKA the new M16A3. Point and pull, insta kill. Hate both those guns. Zero skill. Ribby all the way
The hellreigel is so OP i cant stand it. I hate to think that players who get loads of kills with it think they are great players. I avoid using it out of principle just because it is so overused.
I dont see them as skilled even if they have the 100 service star on it, i see them not pretty good with smgs like ribeyrolles or (somehow) the M1917 Trench Carbine
I avoid using actual overpowering things like elite kits, behemoths and gas grenades. A gun is a just gun no matter how annoying it is but there’s always a way to counter everything tho *shrugs shoulders*
Hellriegel is not op. It gets outgun by shotguns, automatico, revolvers and al8.35/8.25 at cqc and at mid range by pretty much all slr, ribey, mp18 and some lmgs. The only good thing is the mag.
Samuel J. Stuhlinger in cqc nearly 60% of all assault weapons are better than the hellriegel. In mid range, the rest of assault weapons, all slr, 50% of lmg are better than the hellriegel. The odds of encountering one of these guns is almost certain. The difference is positionning and the skill of the players that differentiate the result at the end.
Marc Holbrow its not OP but a really good alround smg like mario in smash bros
I do hate it tho
M1917 trench. I don't use the noobriegel on sheer principle. It makes me feel like a noob. No skill needed. I hope they nerf the crap out of it or give it so much recoil it's like trying to aim while having an epileptic fit.
WEEPFORBALDER i feel exactly the same about it
M1917 trench carbine for me also, love that gun...so satisfying to kill with, gain no pleasure from a hellriegel kill, and I tea bag anyone I kill who I see using one, I tea bag an enemy someone else has killed who I see using one, and even team mates who I see get killed whilst using it.
WEEPFORBALDER what you just said about the recoil reminds me of the mg14/17
It’s just an mg15 on crack which is literally uncontrollable
Same bro i cant use it because it makes me feel like im cheating
I bag hellreigel users too. I just wonder why players dont want to challenge themselves. If I'm playing well I'll switch to something i don't use often to mix it up. Hellreigel users are the kinda players that would stay on a team that heavily outnumbers the other team to get as many kills as possible whereas i like to make it competitive
I love how he announces that we will be voting on medic self loading rifles right as he got killed by a cei rigotti.
MP18>Hellriegel
I have a theory that DICE created the Hellriegel to keep low/poor skilled players playing Battlefield 1.
Robert Olivier Exactly my thought. Same goes to Fedorov or BAR players.
Bullet SO so a realistic first person shooter having a crappy BAR? That sounds stupid to me because the BAR is an awesome gun in real life
Your just angry because you cant kill a person using the hellriegel at close range with your martini henry and smle.
I personally love all these smgs
My list would be:
1 SMG 08/18
2 Automatico M1918
3 MP 18
My most used gun is the Parabellum. I like it because it's extremely good and dangerous, but still feels rewarding to get kills with due to the insane amount of recoil on it. Especially getting kills on people who are behind cover, and not very exposed, or people at range, without using a bipod, just feels rewarding to me.
The Parabellum is my most used gun, but oddly enough I've never used a single gun enough to get over 3,500 kills with. I use everything in the game. I had a service star with mostly every weapon in Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4, including vehicles. I used every mostly every gun. I can't find satisfaction in using one gun for a long time. Especially not being bothered to get 100 stars with one, because I just can't be asked to use one gun for that long. I just don't see enjoyment in that.
Lejend Dairy I salute you for this. I am lvl 100 and the BAR Storm in the only gun with a service star in the double digits which is ten.
Next one is easy too
1. Fedoraov Automatic
2. Lord. Farquad Hill Rifle
3. Slebstrader 1916
Andrew White you mean selbstlader 1916😄
Well I was wrong Mondragon instead of the 1916
The results of your polls are very easy to predict: people vote for the easiest weapon to use. Hellriegel and Fedorov are the most "noob" weapons in their respective classes.
Nicholas Everytime I see someone with 100 stars with Hellriegel or Model 10 Hunter I start boiling inside. Not only are those weapons easiest to use, they are severely overused. According to statistics, of all shotguns, Model 10-A Hunter is used about 75% of time. Sometimes I think that once your reach 25 stars with the Hellriegel or Model 10 Hunter, you shouldn't be able to use it anymore.
I don't understand people who can use a gun so much that they get 100 service stars with it. I literally have 3 guns that have more than 2 service stars but the rest pretty much has 2 or 1 service star. I just find myself wanting variety in what gun I use.
Yet I can sit here an pretty much wipe the Federov clean from existence with the Cei rigotti but y'all are right these guns are too easy
Ze insane Medic same here. The max I have is 5 for RSC
I don't really like the fedorov that much, the range is terrible. I much prefer the mondragon *Cough* over the Fedorov.
I haven't yet unlocked the Hellriegel yet.
I saw this one guy who had 100 service stars with the MP18 Trench. He's one of a kind.
Huge props to him.
Please dont beg people to watch the entire video. Instead you shouldent say anything like stick around to the end but the people Who make it to the end should be in for a little treat.
I'm not begging :) It would make no sense to include a poll for another video in the series at the start. I leave it till the end for continuity reasons and so the viewer experience is linear, not needing to skip ahead or back for any reason :)
okay mabye it would be good to say it another way then. have a nice day!
It's not begging, it's there to keep people interested. You will constantly find this stuff, like when a movie switches to advertisments or at the start of an article.
Ze insane Medic
Yeah the thing is a lot of youtubers like to do so in order to get more watchtime and more ad revenue. an exelet example is the rischest. tho westies reply explained to me why he did it. iapologize to westie if he felt like i was acusing him.
I think it's not even a problem. If he wants to keep us watching, I don't blame him. You wouldn't want to have your effort go to waste either.
I even put myself on the other side and say it's good that he manages to keep us interested.
Westie the ribeyrolles variant is the factory not the carbine
Thomas Dubbeldeman True. But Ribeyrolles is a carbine not SMG
Azdie jes I know that but he sede that the ribeyrolles veriant was the carbine and not the factory
Thomas Dubbeldeman Yeah, you're right
Variant
The ribeyrolles is particularly great because as an anti-vehicle class it should be used in more medium/long range fights. There aren’t a whole lot of other weapons that are good for that in the class.
The Riberylolles has only vertical recoil, so its recoil is better/harder....
ComicGuy tap fire works better with it. Only on longer ranges .
And the vertical recoil can be viewed as a good thing as you fire at center body mass, and it recoils up to the headshot finish. One of the funnest guns in the game.
Nox and some Games agree
I believe that the SMG 08/18 is the most underrated SMG in Bf1. The recoil is extremely low and its 80 round drum magazine is just fantastic for playing Operations or some Conquest maps.
I've played BF1 on console since about March 2017. I don't think the reason the Hellriegel is so popular is because of the snap aim; I think it was because of easy-to-control recoil. It is a lot harder to aim and control recoil on controller, so the Hellriegel's lack of recoil made it very easy to use.
Secretly we all know that the SMG 08 is the best SMG in bf1.
Yes hipfire close range perfect weapon .long range really sucks
My favourite SMG is the M1917 Trench Carbine. It is great for when you have a large group of enemy that you have snuck up on as you can kill up to 10 people without having to reload (in theory, in practice it is usually 4-6 people max before you have to reload). It isn't too bad at range but it does take quite a few bullets to kill that pesky medic or sniper.
With reading Reddit and RUclips comments it's already no secret that the Automatico is considered overpowered on PC, while the Hellriegel is considered overpowered on consoles. So this poll is pretty much just showing on what platform the playbase is spread out on.
You should run a server 24/7 st Quentin scar, disable all firearms melee and grenade only, I would say pistol but they were in shortage for the entirety of the war operations and rush only
I hope during the Apocalypse DLC we see some of the most awkward and powerful weapons that the overused become underused.
Glad you mentioned the difference between the Hellriegel on PC vs Console. Looking at the top 100 stats for the Hellriegel, and its dominated by console players. The AA even after nerf is just too strong of a draw to change from the Hellriegel for most console players. The Automatico/Ribeyrolles/MP18 Optical are my personal top three on both console and PC.
Only one puzzle piece away from the Russian award knife and I have completed the Fire and Ice campaign 10 freaking times, just to get some puzzle pieces
Malte Molin you can only get two pieces a campaign I believe sorry
Why Man Are you sure about that?
Malte Molin yea I played through all of em and only got two each
The hellriegel shouldn't be in bf1 since only a few were built, they were in a prototype stage and basically was never used in WW1
There was only one
@@23_doesnt_care the not chosen one
You are just mad that it kills you alit, this game isn't based off of historical accuracy
The 1917 Trench carbine is a new love. Accuracy is just crazy. Can fire at 150m and kill someone. Might take 15 rounds because it's a pistol cartridge but you got 41 of them bad boys.
Hellreigel defensive is overlooked compared to the Factory. The 120 rounds per mag make it insanely good for close range fights where the recoil is controllable and you rarely run short of ammo when in combat. Factory is great for medium range but short /long the defensive comes up top
60 ammo magazine with no overheating, EXTREMELY accurate, VERY high rate of fire, barely ANY recoil, fast reload speed, start with 3 drum mags adding up to 180 bullets. There are no downsides to this weapon, only upsides. At least with the Automagical your magazine is much smaller and the weapon spread much higher. I've played BF1 for hundreds and hundreds of hours and can only conclude this weapon needs to be nerfed sooner rather than later. I mean this weapon pretty much falls into the LMG category with all the SMG benefits. I'm not salty about it, just realistic. I know a lot of people feel the same way about this weapon.
huntakilla1234 Its THE Douche weapon to use. Period. Needs to be nerfed like yesterday.
The hellreagle is really hard to use for me it shakes too much when aiming down sights
Honestly I was suprised that the machine pistol wasn’t on there- realized that it is very hard to unlock and many people probably gave up on it.
when the hellriegel was was introduced however it had only 1 extra mag of ammo, when i unlocked it i ran out of ammo fast after a couple of kills and if there wasnt a support player nearby that actually gave ammo then it was useless. Only started using it again after DICE gave it 120 extra rounds of ammo ie 2 mags and it was my main choice for a very long time, till a few months ago when the ribbeyrolles became my main weapon of choice
What does noot mean in "noot point two eight pull" at 9:51?
I really enjoy your videos. You bring up alot of points that not many RUclipsrs talk bout.
Well in the near Future it would be the SMG08 🌚
Thanks! This is tremendous advice. I am support level 50 and scout level 50, but assault level 5. I play close-medium range. The assault class has always seemed a little underpowered to me as far as guns, but your video has inspired me to play around a little more.
I will always love the MP18, I love the firing sound, and the low recoil, just the way it feels is wonderful
Why is there such a major difference between the i56600k and the i75820k. Do you set your priority for this game in task manager to high, because that is what I have to do with my 6600k that i overclocked to 4.2ghz.
Hellriegal is not the best. Smg 08 18 is the best up close. And Ribeyrolles is the most versatile and good for close to medium range
My favorite is the smg 08/18 factory, its a squad wipe machine that u can map people with. I love it
Assult is my least used kit . Support & Medic help my team out way more often . And Scout is kinda like lay back make a drink and try and shoot someone. But when you finally get that shot it is satisfaction!
How was the selbalstlader m1916 so low on the poll? It's such a good weapon if you use 2.5 magnification on the marksman variation. Iron sights suck, but the scope is pretty good. You get a really good balance of range and CQ combat as long as you're not facing one of 3 things: an automatico, a shotgun, or just a plain really good player that can outplay the damage the selbalstlader can put out (2 body shot, or 3 if you get a leg shot if you can forgive the low-ish fire rate). If you play smart, you can easily take our squads of 4 or 5 people (I've done so consistently ever since I started using this weapon). The fedorov is the only competitor and it makes up for a mild lack of skill in CQ and medium range, but otherwise falls slightly behind, especially at longer distances. It also only has iron sights I believe, which is a big turn-off. I usually end up with the highest amount of kills and revives with this weapon, but my heals lag behind as I use them for myself most of the time since I play really aggressively.
I played 71-19 on Achi Baba with the Automatico M1918 Trench the other day. It was a blast!
As much as I hate using Hellriegel I'm sometimes forced to use it when an objective is being overrun by enemy units
I love #2 it's accurate af and very powerful.
i still have the most kills as assault with the M18 optical. very well rounded weapon, and what i primarily used during my short grind to level 10.
Why is the Selbstlader M1916 so low on the poll? How is the RSC better than it?
MY BABY! THE RIBEYE MADE IT!!! That weapon is SOOOO underrated. It's my most used Assault weapon (not counting shottys) by far. If you overlooked it and are reading this, USE IT. You will not regret. Also due to my testing on CTE, the weapon's patch makes it even stronger, as Westie said.
3. Autoloading 8.25
2. Fedorov Avtomat
1. Farquhar Hill
MP18 is best smg. I've wrecked people with hellriegels. It's the best gun in most overall situations. You can reach out with burst fire and surprise snipers. Go full auto in a room full of people. It's so satisfying to kill with this gun it's my best assault weapon with over 1500 kills. I haven't played alot since the first 3 months btw. Got to lvl 86 in a couple weeks. Got bored and went to bf4.
I only bust out the Hellreigel if my teams really sucks, or if my KD looks like hell middle through the game.
Put your FOV all the way up and use the Automatic trench, it's disgustingly good at hip firing
Noobriegel on PS4 is just ridiculous, it really needs either less ammo or to overheat a lot faster than it does. Being able to kill 3-4 enemies that easy is just broken
Mp18, ribeyrolles, and SMG08/18 are the best smgs, everything else is a game exploit and should be deleted.
Kaisser's Maid Cafe And Knife Sparring Club The M1917 Trench carbine and the M1216 that came with Turning tides are both very good, but still very balanced as well
Nicholas smgs are getting buff except hellriegel and automatico
Ethan Coalition when’s the last time you used it? It’s been fixed in a recent update and the damage is now much more consistent
Kaisser's Maid Cafe And Knife Sparring Club SMG 08/18? 😂😂 Youre kidding its one of the worst weapons in game
Very surprised to see Automatico at number 3. I thought it would’ve been the MP18. Also don’t feel like Ribey should even be on this list. It sounds like people voted to put it on there because of the new patch coming out and thinking, “Well, it’s probably going to be a lot better now. It’s gonna beat a lot more. Number 2.”
For medic, RSC 1917 gets my vote. 2nd and third would be the Selbstlader 1906 and the Farquhar-Hill. The General Liu I like as well but I need to sharpen my handling with it. I enjoyed using the Federov when it came out but the RSC is still so much better and more satisfying to use. Two shots, next.
In my opinion, I think the automatico is the best assault weapon BUT I really enjoy the new m1912 machine pistol. It’s pretty much the balanced version of the automatico and super fun to play with
I haven't played bf1 in like 6 months. Are people still running about with shotguns and automaticos?
Hearing westie talking about the hellrigel reminds me of the usas12 frags
Heilregals.... welll.... the clip is so big you could essentially take out 4 ppl at once in close quarters. I think the Automatico isn't quite as OP simply cause you don't have the amount of ammo and therefore have to plan it out if there's more than two ppl where you're about to assault. Ribey has a place in my heart. It just feels good :)
What really satisfy me in hellriegel is the drum mag. I really like almost every old school weapon which has drum on them. Gives me the feeling i can just walk and fire and fire. Ribeyrolles is also one of my faves due being more like modern weapon in a way. Overall good TOP 3 what you people voted for! :)
Can someone just tell me which one has the highest rate of fire and a magazine that's all I want to know but your talking about everything before you get the rate of fire, damage, ADS time, reload time
Top 3 medic guns IMO:
Farquhar-Hill
Fedorov
Cei Rigotti
Says a lot about the guns that came with the game 😐
What about the RSC? Its a 2 shot kill
Den Overrated Gulerod i'm just not that accurate to kill more that 1 guy with it. Fared much better with those 3
ForEverRon Well yeah i guess you have to be Pro to really see its potential.
Den Overrated Gulerod or an overrated Gulerod 🤷♂️ lol
ForEverRon i dont play medic that much but imo its:
RSC
Mondragón
Cei rigotti (trench variant preferably)
Whenever I use the Hellreigal I feel bad, it's so accurate when you burst fire it, so whenever I make a long shot with it I feel the pain because if i was that guy I would've been annoyed
Um... tbh, I figured that the Hellriegel was gonna be overthrown by the SMG 8/18 in the DLC In the Name of the Tsar due to its stability.
What is your outro song called? Is it a remix?
The Ribeyrolles is one of my favorite weapons, but just like the MP18, it suffers a low ammunition capacity
the hellriegel is op, nerf pls
or buff other weapons
Gijs Van heek people already die quickly, so hell naw
Nicholas yeah, but it doesen't have the same range as the hellriegel does
Yes. I want to have a fair chance with the other assualt weapons
Nicholas I don't have problems with automatico cause almost 10/10 of my deaths are by hellriegel
The Best medic rifle is the New Farquar-Hill
Malte Molin legit. I’m almost at a thousand kills with it.
Yes sir, it's like the cei rigotti on steroids. Hits just land, i've out-sniped snipers with it just from the awesome accuracy. Fedorov is good too, but it kicks too much.
That's a bit debatable.
The Fedorov is monster at close range, the Selbstlader 1916 has a bigger capacity and almost identical ROF and the 1906 has extremely clean irons with excellent mid to long range capability, the RSC 1917 is a two-shot kill maximum, but the Farquhar-Hill is kind of like the jack of all trades.
I seriously don't understand the serious hate behind the hellreigal on PC, the only times i've ever gotten pissed towards someone after being killed by it is people that are really bad, have terrible 5% accuracy etc but still get the kill due to the large amount of bullets in the clip. It's just such an avg gun with a lot of bullets, avg RPM, avg recoil, avg dmg I think people getting mad and claiming OP is more placebo than anything atm. I am really happy my Ribeyrolles got some love, its ok in close quarters only really gets wrecked by automatico or shotguns but far superior to the other smgs/assault weapons at mid range enough where you aren't just restricted to fighting in close quarters 100% of the time. Also minor detail you forgot to mention +Westie the ribeyrolles does slightly more dmg at range (minimum damage) than the other smgs.
What about the mp18??!
I reckon the most all round balanced gun after the hellreigel
Thanks, I’m going to start using the Hellriegel more often
Anybody who has more than a thousand kills with the Hellreigel and keeps maining it is a waste of server space
Dawn Creation V I realized that after I saw I had 14 service stars. I don't even touch it anymore because I feel disgusted when I use it
You might need to update this video or make a part 2 because the m1919 Annihilator is here and the Ribroylles is buffed
Since theyre making the Hellriegel a 4 bullet kill *SIGH...* I hope they increase the recoil and bullet spread/dropoff severely.
I’ve seen people who are level 80 and have 100 service stars with the Hellriegel.... I felt really good about myself all of a sudden.
When's the next battlefield coming out?
Fedorav is so good, especially when you turn it to semi-auto and snipe a support player at long range.
Medic rifles - Fedorov Optical - Farquar Optical - SL Sweeper
loved this video! looking forward to the next ones.
Thanks for watching bro! :D
SMG 08?