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Yes I like it. It's fun to play and you won't get flamed for it. It's much harder to use than the hellriegel (still quite easy though) because it has actually recoil.
i just wanted to ask people if they think the shotguns really are OP? i mean the are out ranged by every gun in the game so you can only use them in CQC maps.. what do you think of shotguns in bf1 people of the internet
Time to get those AT mine kills I guess. The Factory is pretty forgiving in terms of recoil at range, but the muzzleflash combined with that tiny front sight post can make it a bit hard to see what you’re shooting at. Will definitely go for the unlock and take it for a spin👍 Besides I’ve got everything else unlocked, so why not?
a factor you seem to forget is the overheating of guns (already noticed that in your video about the SMG 08/18 Factory). Both Hellriegel Versions overheat after firing 40 bullets while SMG 08/18 versions overheat after only 31. Now to the gun we are talking about. My first experience with the Hellriegel in general was last year when I picked up the Defensive variant from a camper in tdm (on Empires Edge) and I loved it. but now I just feel like "ye, I unlocked it but it ain't that great." at some point I was playing conquest, the server got more and more empty and there was this person (I don't remember their name, *waves at you in case you read this*) who helped unlock it by repeatedly spawning as cavalry and riding into my AT mines With it I kinda have the same problem that I have with the SMG 08/18 Optical. even tho I aim directly at my target a lot of my shots don't seem to hit. also the bipod doesn't really help much when shooting over longer ranges due to the guns damage model and the rather slow muzzle velocity
I could potentially mention it. I just didn’t for these two videos as I didn’t see it as a particularly significant factor. Needing 31 or 40 bullets to take someone out would be extreme. And the circumstances when it would be necessary for anything are remote. There are other stats I left out as I again didn’t think they were of much relevance to the topic. But I do see why you’d mention it and will continue to consider different factors for future videos.
You're right, most of the time it isn't relevant but from time to time I find myself in a situation where I could take out lots of enemies but then the gun overheats, I die and the battlefield moment is ruined qwq. So I think during gunfights against multiple enemies the number of bullets you can fire before the gun overheats is more relevant than the ammo capacity
Just unlocked and loving it, my first match with it was Sainai dessert and I was consistently killing snipers and medics who usually dominate the open areas. It still isn't an Lmg since it fires pistol rounds but for a support/Lmg type of player this gun a magnificent for me.
If you use it as if you were a saw gunner by assaulting objectives then deploying the bipod to hold and defend said objective. It can be the most devastating gun in the game
More hidden gems to check: The new general liu with the bolt action mode. Storm variant prefered. Mondragon sniper and storm. Mg15(all variants are useful) Bar telescopic SMLE carbine-the scoped rifle with the longest range without that glint The new M109 exp with bolt action mode MP18 exp - actually very nice weapon for slightly longer ranges
I think a lot of people don’t like that it’s a optical version, a lot of people don’t use it for that. But if I want a bipod with hi ammo I tend to go to the support class for that. I did use it recently but it probably shines best on CQB maps.
I think I've only ever gotten a handfull of kills with the defensive, so I'm definitely going to have to equip it and work towards that service star soon. After I unlocked it I tried it real quick, decided it was worthless, and I haven't touched either Hellriegel since. I'm definitely excited to give this one another try now though, as you've pretty much opened my eyes to the fact it's the closest thing we have to a pre update smg 08. Great video as always bro, keep it up!
I never hated the defensive, it was just always a bit meh. This was a long time ago though so how BF1 plays now is very different , I'll be trying it again for sure
the fact that it has increased recoil makes no sense at all, somehow a huge and heavy weapon firing a average pistol round has more recoil if fitted with a even bigger and heavier magazine. But i think gameplay- wise this occurs because the hellriegel factory isn't actually factory but storm (stormory?)
IKR!! I just started using this today after you mentioned it in the last vid, and as I've never really used it. It's surprisingly good whilst still being balanced. Great vid mate
It’s fun gun. Can’t beat the magazine and even standing at long range, if you tap out your shots you can get some amazing kills. Been using this for the past couple of months and have over 800 kills with it
In my opinion, this one is much better than SMG No8b/18, mainly because its bipod and bigger magazine, this makes it excel both in offensive and defensive. However, Ribeyrolles Factory is my go-to SMG.
I'm guessing the people that said the SMG08 was the best smg in the game were playing PC, in console with the inferior controller you can't really mitigate the recoil easily. Also the Hellriegel defensive requires 25 AT kills, I even haven't unlocked it and have stacked 800h already...
I play on console in all honesty dude. But I did state in that video that it won’t be the case for everyone. It essentially always comes down to individual strengths and weaknesses. Whatever works best for you is what you should use :)
honestly every single gun is good in battlefield you just need to play with it a few rounds get used to it I never touched seb 1906 or rsc smg but when I tried them I was getting kills far easier than I thought, definitely will give it another go but this time gonna stick to it until I get good with it...
I just unlocked that gun. I had to steal that weapon from other players, but I really enjoyed the time I played with it. It really is a hidden gem. But Goddamn it's hard to unlock, those mine kills are hard to get. But, I will say it's satisfying every time you kill a horse or a tank full of enemies. It feels so good to get kills and points out of nowhere 🤣🤣
When the gun came into the game it was an absolute monster Then they nerf into a recoil crazy spud gun Glad it's back Will go back and give it a try Cheers for letting me know
Totally agree here as this weapon not the most easy to unlock but once u got it and learn about its potential it’s a bloody slaying beast I use this weapon a lot and when I do itsso fun to use as most ppl don’t expect the extra 60 bullets you have left 😱 and well you get we’re this is going. but I would recommend testing this out if you like the hellreagle
I would use this weapon but I afraid of the comments I will get... The sm08 is simply incontrolable in my PC-too low FPS. I must use weapons like regular riggel with slower firing weapons(or less recoil) or with bipod. So this weapon actually sometimes sounds appealing. I think the regular riggel is the best of this 3 "high capacity" SMGs because of the low recoil, but I really think that all of them have their usage and I wonder why no one is using the defensive variant But then I use the riberyoles instead, mainly for not getting harsh comments from the people I kill.
Not a particular fan of the gun. I'm just not one to go spray and pray. I like weapons that are harder to use and require a little more positioning and awareness. The RSC SMG is fun to use on close quarters maps. Beyond that, most assault guns are try hard guns
I like that gun a lot. I have more service stars with the defence than with the #noobiefactoryhellriegel# (3☆). If u find a balance between hipfire and ads its very fun usefull in certain maps.....
I remember this video. This is the Defensive variant, which almost nobody uses. The Factory is the variant that’s used frequently. Also not overpowered. The in-depth stats show as much. So nah, I’m happy with the title.
@@GetGoodGuy That's your opinion, which is absolutely valid, but I find it more fun to use things like the RSC SMG or the Maschinenpistole. I personally have the RSC M1917 as my go-to medic gun on BF1. But, you said that it (Hellriegel Defensive) was very alike to the factory (duh) and somewhat better than the SMG 08 if I did hear that correctly. I don't have it, but I have a friend who does, and I've used it, and it just feels (In my opinion) exactly like the factory, only slightly more overpowered due to the bipod and reflex sight. It is satisfying to kill people with, yeah, but... I don't like doing it. It's too easy. I have to scrub myself with holy-water afterwards to avoid turning into a scumbag tryhard. *I'm not suggesting everyone who uses either weapons is inherently a scumbag, but those people exist in mass...* You're absolutely right that it isn't used as much, but the SMG 08 and the Hellriegel is still one of the worst things in BF1. I have sat in matches on maps where it has been just a bunch of cool people (usually level 80 - 100) using the guns stated above; the less common guns. These people wanna have fun, y'know? Whereas, I have played the exact same map and mode an hour later, and it has just been a Hellriegel camp-fest, with players daring other to walk across an open area, and you *will* be tea-bagged if you are gunned down. I'm still surprised how unused it was, though. As I said, and as you said, I don't know why more people don't use it, due to the fact that it seems to be better than the 08 and the Hr. Factory. So, forgive me, the title should be, in my honest opinion, from my experience, "Try this overpowered hidden gem, instead of the usual op weapons" If you say it is a hidden gem, then I will agree with you on that, and it isn't a typical overpowered weapon, but, it is still overpowered. I remember when I started out in BF1, and 90% of my deaths were to a guy with a hellriegel, and this is just one with a bipod and reflex sight which handles not too far differently to the factory. (For reference, we are both on console, however I am on PS4)
@@I.AM.BIG.J That was a LONG reply about a weapon that you haven’t even unlocked or put any actual time into using. The Defensive variant has SIGNIFICANTLY more recoil than the Factory variant. It makes it where you have to use the bipod to be accurate at any meaningful range. The Factory is the easier to use variant, even if it has half the magazine size. In CQC with the Defensive, you’re going to lose to SMG08s and Automaticos. At the range where the bipod becomes useful, you’re easy pickings for a Medic or LMG. BTW I have 20+ stars on the Maschinenpistole Storm and 15+ with the Patrol Carbine.
Ah makes more sense. However I do intend to play BFV and I hope it turns out to be something I really enjoy. I just felt disappointed by the BFV beta. But that and a few other things did open my eyes to the reality of focusing solely on one franchise being a risk and potentially stunting growth. So I've begun to diversify by including some Destiny 2 streams. And I'll be continuing with this by likely playing BO4 Blackout, Red Dead 2 etc etc
Have you used the defensive? If so, have you used it on console? I personally don’t think it’s anywhere near as forgiving as the factory. It may be called a Hellriegel but they aren’t one and the same. Also, easy guns don’t make the player a noob, at least in my opinion. Sometimes people just want to use a variety of options.
GetGoodGuy true about the noob thing sorry but using the ribeyrolls or a slug version is very satisfying and challenging...I used all the guns ....probably to much lol
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Yes I like it. It's fun to play and you won't get flamed for it.
It's much harder to use than the hellriegel (still quite easy though) because it has actually recoil.
I think you can be effective if you try to avoid long range fights since the bipod can be misleading.
Its a hidden gem for sure, to sad no one uses it because reasons
GetGoodGuy I’d like to use it... just haven’t got around to unlocking it... those at mine kills are a bitch to be honest.
And yeah might try it. Only have a handful of kills since unlocking it.
6:19. The guy with the bat. Enough said.
The HD is great gun, but sometimes i find it to randomly just bounce around from time to time
I would definetely like to try it...
If it wasn't locked behind an asigment that requires you to use one of the most op weapons in the game! 😧
I like this weapon. Didn't know it had less recoil than the SMG 08.
You learn every day lol
i just wanted to ask people if they think the shotguns really are OP? i mean the are out ranged by every gun in the game so you can only use them in CQC maps.. what do you think of shotguns in bf1 people of the internet
Time to get those AT mine kills I guess.
The Factory is pretty forgiving in terms of recoil at range, but the muzzleflash combined with that tiny front sight post can make it a bit hard to see what you’re shooting at.
Will definitely go for the unlock and take it for a spin👍
Besides I’ve got everything else unlocked, so why not?
a factor you seem to forget is the overheating of guns (already noticed that in your video about the SMG 08/18 Factory). Both Hellriegel Versions overheat after firing 40 bullets while SMG 08/18 versions overheat after only 31.
Now to the gun we are talking about. My first experience with the Hellriegel in general was last year when I picked up the Defensive variant from a camper in tdm (on Empires Edge) and I loved it. but now I just feel like "ye, I unlocked it but it ain't that great." at some point I was playing conquest, the server got more and more empty and there was this person (I don't remember their name, *waves at you in case you read this*) who helped unlock it by repeatedly spawning as cavalry and riding into my AT mines
With it I kinda have the same problem that I have with the SMG 08/18 Optical. even tho I aim directly at my target a lot of my shots don't seem to hit. also the bipod doesn't really help much when shooting over longer ranges due to the guns damage model and the rather slow muzzle velocity
I could potentially mention it. I just didn’t for these two videos as I didn’t see it as a particularly significant factor. Needing 31 or 40 bullets to take someone out would be extreme. And the circumstances when it would be necessary for anything are remote. There are other stats I left out as I again didn’t think they were of much relevance to the topic. But I do see why you’d mention it and will continue to consider different factors for future videos.
You're right, most of the time it isn't relevant but from time to time I find myself in a situation where I could take out lots of enemies but then the gun overheats, I die and the battlefield moment is ruined qwq. So I think during gunfights against multiple enemies the number of bullets you can fire before the gun overheats is more relevant than the ammo capacity
This is one of the usual overpowered weapons
Barely anyone uses this though
Just unlocked and loving it, my first match with it was Sainai dessert and I was consistently killing snipers and medics who usually dominate the open areas. It still isn't an Lmg since it fires pistol rounds but for a support/Lmg type of player this gun a magnificent for me.
If you use it as if you were a saw gunner by assaulting objectives then deploying the bipod to hold and defend said objective. It can be the most devastating gun in the game
I’ll probably like the lower horizontal recoil on this gun. Should use it more often
More hidden gems to check:
The new general liu with the bolt action mode. Storm variant prefered.
Mondragon sniper and storm.
Mg15(all variants are useful)
Bar telescopic
SMLE carbine-the scoped rifle with the longest range without that glint
The new M109 exp with bolt action mode
MP18 exp - actually very nice weapon for slightly longer ranges
30 weapons for bfv. Anyone else disappointed? Also good video
yeah its kinda weak I guess, I hope there will be much more content coming from those free dlcs coming
It’ll get better through the Tides of War 👍
well, they got the mg 42 so im happy xD
Russian, japanese and american waepons will be there on the tides of war
JeeBee シ I dunno as it is coming from EA and their live service is pretty unreliable as we have seen from battlefront 2.
One of my personal favorites. An absolute laser with the bipod deployed.
I think a lot of people don’t like that it’s a optical version, a lot of people don’t use it for that. But if I want a bipod with hi ammo I tend to go to the support class for that. I did use it recently but it probably shines best on CQB maps.
I have not used that thing in a long time. I do remember enjoying using it far more than the factory variant.
I think I've only ever gotten a handfull of kills with the defensive, so I'm definitely going to have to equip it and work towards that service star soon. After I unlocked it I tried it real quick, decided it was worthless, and I haven't touched either Hellriegel since. I'm definitely excited to give this one another try now though, as you've pretty much opened my eyes to the fact it's the closest thing we have to a pre update smg 08. Great video as always bro, keep it up!
I never hated the defensive, it was just always a bit meh. This was a long time ago though so how BF1 plays now is very different , I'll be trying it again for sure
That is the recoil pattern that the Hellriegel Factory should have had to balance it properly.
the fact that it has increased recoil makes no sense at all, somehow a huge and heavy weapon firing a average pistol round has more recoil if fitted with a even bigger and heavier magazine. But i think gameplay- wise this occurs because the hellriegel factory isn't actually factory but storm (stormory?)
"Do you like to run around in the zerg? Is Fort de Vaux your favorite map? Do you like big bada-boom? Do you want the easy mode? Take this..."
IKR!! I just started using this today after you mentioned it in the last vid, and as I've never really used it. It's surprisingly good whilst still being balanced.
Great vid mate
Love it. Hard to unlock but u can melt players. Not used it in a while. Gonna dust it off and have fun
It’s fun gun. Can’t beat the magazine and even standing at long range, if you tap out your shots you can get some amazing kills. Been using this for the past couple of months and have over 800 kills with it
Havent unlocked this yet as I'm one of the few people who don't even have a service star with the hellreigal lol
3:47 that jump was one of the captain girlfriend's tactics lol. Nice vid and I liked the information. Tnx mate
In my opinion, this one is much better than SMG No8b/18, mainly because its bipod and bigger magazine, this makes it excel both in offensive and defensive. However, Ribeyrolles Factory is my go-to SMG.
It's a really good gun. It's my third highest primary and still equip it quite often when playing assault.
I'm guessing the people that said the SMG08 was the best smg in the game were playing PC, in console with the inferior controller you can't really mitigate the recoil easily. Also the Hellriegel defensive requires 25 AT kills, I even haven't unlocked it and have stacked 800h already...
I play on console in all honesty dude. But I did state in that video that it won’t be the case for everyone. It essentially always comes down to individual strengths and weaknesses. Whatever works best for you is what you should use :)
Have it unlocked but don't realy use it , not a fan of lens sights on smg's
honestly every single gun is good in battlefield you just need to play with it a few rounds get used to it I never touched seb 1906 or rsc smg but when I tried them I was getting kills far easier than I thought, definitely will give it another go but this time gonna stick to it until I get good with it...
I just unlocked that gun. I had to steal that weapon from other players, but I really enjoyed the time I played with it. It really is a hidden gem. But Goddamn it's hard to unlock, those mine kills are hard to get. But, I will say it's satisfying every time you kill a horse or a tank full of enemies. It feels so good to get kills and points out of nowhere 🤣🤣
I am quite good with it. But then I am with most of the unpoular ones. Its the popular 'easy to use' ones I suck with for some reason.
I like when in the end you just sad what all youtubers think-" BECAUSE RUclips SUCKS"
Ahhh, there goes my secret weapon. I call it my turn around tool lol. Great video!
When the gun came into the game it was an absolute monster
Then they nerf into a recoil crazy spud gun
Glad it's back
Will go back and give it a try
Cheers for letting me know
ive been using this. its great when u get that bipod deployed. but its good at close range, also.
Totally agree here as this weapon not the most easy to unlock but once u got it and learn about its potential it’s a bloody slaying beast I use this weapon a lot and when I do itsso fun to use as most ppl don’t expect the extra 60 bullets you have left 😱 and well you get we’re this is going. but I would recommend testing this out if you like the hellreagle
I like the Hellriegel Devensive already mate
Also really cool video and it's nice to see someone else liking this weapon
See 'ya later.
Yes the defensive is good i use it. Wanna know a cool hidden gem? Nagant revolver. Serious.
I will give it a real chance now that you showed me the light.
Added on my underrated weapons to unlock list
Is your BF footage speeded up?
Nope, no alterations are made to the footage in this style of my videos.
Hip fire on this is too nasty
unlocked this variant just now
I would use this weapon but I afraid of the comments I will get...
The sm08 is simply incontrolable in my PC-too low FPS. I must use weapons like regular riggel with slower firing weapons(or less recoil) or with bipod. So this weapon actually sometimes sounds appealing.
I think the regular riggel is the best of this 3 "high capacity" SMGs because of the low recoil, but I really think that all of them have their usage and I wonder why no one is using the defensive variant
But then I use the riberyoles instead, mainly for not getting harsh comments from the people I kill.
Everyone just uses the factory because we can’t unlock the defensive
Not a particular fan of the gun. I'm just not one to go spray and pray. I like weapons that are harder to use and require a little more positioning and awareness. The RSC SMG is fun to use on close quarters maps. Beyond that, most assault guns are try hard guns
I like that gun a lot. I have more service stars with the defence than with the #noobiefactoryhellriegel# (3☆). If u find a balance between hipfire and ads its very fun usefull in certain maps.....
Almost nobody uses it because of ridicoulus unlock assigments :p
AT mine challenge is easy. BF1 is filled with artillery truck cowards. Equip AT and smoke grenade... That's it!
John Bob lol
You mixed up the title.
Try This Usual OP Weapon instead of the HIDDEN GEMS.
I remember this video. This is the Defensive variant, which almost nobody uses. The Factory is the variant that’s used frequently.
Also not overpowered. The in-depth stats show as much.
So nah, I’m happy with the title.
@@GetGoodGuy That's your opinion, which is absolutely valid, but I find it more fun to use things like the RSC SMG or the Maschinenpistole. I personally have the RSC M1917 as my go-to medic gun on BF1.
But, you said that it (Hellriegel Defensive) was very alike to the factory (duh) and somewhat better than the SMG 08 if I did hear that correctly.
I don't have it, but I have a friend who does, and I've used it, and it just feels (In my opinion) exactly like the factory, only slightly more overpowered due to the bipod and reflex sight. It is satisfying to kill people with, yeah, but... I don't like doing it. It's too easy. I have to scrub myself with holy-water afterwards to avoid turning into a scumbag tryhard.
*I'm not suggesting everyone who uses either weapons is inherently a scumbag, but those people exist in mass...*
You're absolutely right that it isn't used as much, but the SMG 08 and the Hellriegel is still one of the worst things in BF1. I have sat in matches on maps where it has been just a bunch of cool people (usually level 80 - 100) using the guns stated above; the less common guns. These people wanna have fun, y'know? Whereas, I have played the exact same map and mode an hour later, and it has just been a Hellriegel camp-fest, with players daring other to walk across an open area, and you *will* be tea-bagged if you are gunned down.
I'm still surprised how unused it was, though. As I said, and as you said, I don't know why more people don't use it, due to the fact that it seems to be better than the 08 and the Hr. Factory.
So, forgive me, the title should be, in my honest opinion, from my experience, "Try this overpowered hidden gem, instead of the usual op weapons"
If you say it is a hidden gem, then I will agree with you on that, and it isn't a typical overpowered weapon, but, it is still overpowered. I remember when I started out in BF1, and 90% of my deaths were to a guy with a hellriegel, and this is just one with a bipod and reflex sight which handles not too far differently to the factory.
(For reference, we are both on console, however I am on PS4)
@@I.AM.BIG.J That was a LONG reply about a weapon that you haven’t even unlocked or put any actual time into using. The Defensive variant has SIGNIFICANTLY more recoil than the Factory variant. It makes it where you have to use the bipod to be accurate at any meaningful range. The Factory is the easier to use variant, even if it has half the magazine size. In CQC with the Defensive, you’re going to lose to SMG08s and Automaticos. At the range where the bipod becomes useful, you’re easy pickings for a Medic or LMG. BTW I have 20+ stars on the Maschinenpistole Storm and 15+ with the Patrol Carbine.
@@0v3rgr0wn 2 years later and my opinion hasn't changed, only I've actually unlocked it, now.
Man I cant unlock it damn
Love dis guy
WHAT THE FUCKKKKK I DIDNT GET THIS NOTIF KWJXNJDEIOSKS
So on November 20, what will happen to your channel.
I mean since you don't want to "gitgood" at NFC.
What sorry? I don't follow. NFC?
Bfv. It autocorrected.
Ah makes more sense. However I do intend to play BFV and I hope it turns out to be something I really enjoy. I just felt disappointed by the BFV beta.
But that and a few other things did open my eyes to the reality of focusing solely on one franchise being a risk and potentially stunting growth. So I've begun to diversify by including some Destiny 2 streams. And I'll be continuing with this by likely playing BO4 Blackout, Red Dead 2 etc etc
Love this weapon
Can I get a... BONELESS PIZZA?
He sound like a 8 years old 1 year ago
It's just to much to unlock for me
Hellrigal with bipod... Gross 😝
If u use a hellriegel at all .. ur just a noob... it’s too easy...
Have you used the defensive? If so, have you used it on console? I personally don’t think it’s anywhere near as forgiving as the factory. It may be called a Hellriegel but they aren’t one and the same.
Also, easy guns don’t make the player a noob, at least in my opinion. Sometimes people just want to use a variety of options.
GetGoodGuy true about the noob thing sorry but using the ribeyrolls or a slug version is very satisfying and challenging...I used all the guns ....probably to much lol
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