I thought they did. When the game first came out, I could only get 6 or 7 damage full clip, maybe 12 if I got head or close range. But now, 8 shots landed will get you like 27 damage, which is acceptable with a bolt action!
Just to help you understand: 12 meter is the range SMGs are effective at now, not longer, as the recoil has been increased a bit (at least I thought). 12 meters is a very short distance
what? Im saying that since the games are played different it would make sense to optimize them for each platform. whatever platform you would be playing would be more balanced.
xwize wow an elitist pc gamer. What a shocker. I used to play pc. Console is so much better ^_^ Ohno i have a different opinion to you. Dont have a heart attack getting triggered.
Well the hellriegel is still going to be the best with it's 650 fire rate and 60 rounds compared to the mp18 with 550 rpm 31 rounds and the ribey with 550rpm and 25 rounds.
The Hellriegel isn't the best. You're assuming that every shot always lands and that magically spread, recoil and muzzle velocity aren't a factor. Actually look at the weapon stats beyond rate of fire and magazine capacity on Symthic's website. It's really annoying seeing all these new players that don't understand that they're not playing CoD and that all their guns are magically always accurate.
Andrei Valdez In you're opinion what is the best smg in the game, And you are right I did over look the muzzle velocity and also slightly overlook recoil but in my opinion it is still the best well rounded smg in the game.
polished orphan From my understanding it is still in the CTE to be tested but DICE removed it in the last patch for some reason... it's still there though I think :)
The noobriegel experimental weapon never used and overpowered, as it does to have such a high rate and so little recount (650 per minute near the parabellum)
After playing on the CTE I found that I was struggling with guns that I have 500+ kills with on the base game thanks to the recoil changes. I can't say I enjoy the fact that I now have to relearn how to play this late in the game's development cycle even if it is for the better.
Maybe this will give medics a higher competitive edge against close to mid range engagements. This will finally give medics a real chance to support their team with heals and revives. Medics get no love until now!
This is bullshit. It's already broken as fuck in a 25m engagement range. You can have a good 2 second jump on someone, land all your shots and still get fucked by this gun. I think it needs a slight nerf in either its damage, or recoil.
Nico Garcia Yep well this patch will make shotguns almost as good. I feel like they just arent that consistent cuz of the random spread, i find myself using the double barrel now more than the 10a hunter
Admyr 6 fake news. From 5 to 10 meters, the bulldog, the howdah, the bodeo and the auto revolver have better or very similar ttk with the automatico. Oh and the obrez 1 shot up to 10 meters. So yes sidearms are trash lol. Edit: grammar
I hope that is part of the patch he just forgot to mention. I hate changing my tank or truck to have a player spawn and take it it was in the game before.
I just realized that the Huot doesn't have the vertical grip on it anymore. Thank god, cause that was annoying when the soldier held it by the drum magazine
Jesus you were so good with that double barrel I thought it was the one with the slug. The double barrel slug shotgun is very fun to use and feels great when you get a kill.
Great changes. The change I would like to see is when you are working on a particular medal and you cannot earn that medal in the allotted time, whatever progress you have towards a worked on medal is saved, so when you get back to working on that medal, you pick up where you left off instead of starting over in the beginning of the medal.
Holy crap, just got back into BF1 for the first time in nearly 6 months and man has the game changed for the better. I've been a Battlefield fan since it first came to console with Bad Company 1, but I grew annoyed with the franchise after Hardline and BF1. I felt that BF1 had grown much to casual and needed serious balancing, and having played many hours in the past couple days, it seems to have gotten just what it needed. Thank you for FINALLY doing what should have been done months ago, DICE. Just please don't wait so long to fix Battlefield 2018 (because we all know it's going to need help too...).
Malte Molin It’s getting its 3HK range extended further. This is a big change of function for the Chauchat, but it does feel very consistent in the CTE at the moment.
I think that it's great the Developers are still tweaking this game this late in its life cycle. Especially since there's rumors of a new game or games being made for 2018. This weapon balancing update seems like it will be a breath of fresh air to what I personally beleive has become a somewhat stagnant game. Im really looking forward to this update along with the two new turning tides maps. Thanks for the informative bf1 videos Westie!
they won't buff hellriegel but they'll buff all the unused weapons so i'm ok with it. Look at the launch of the game %99 is using hellriegel but now it's like %20/%10
Really excited for this new patch, it does sound very very much like the big spring patch we had towards the end of bf4's life. That change also adjusted weapons to separate the distances and they were used at and to stop players picking the same 5 guns all the time
For Apocalypse I want the German Civil War! If u don’t know what this is, it’s a civil war fought by four factions. The Bavarian Communist Party, The Nazi Party, the Royalist German Party, and The Democratic Weimar Republic. I really want to see this in the game. This occurred in 1918-1919
MarsSWBF that's four factions, and that might be interesting, but if DICE is sticking to their 6 maps per DLC. I dunno if we'll see it, but I hope I'm wrong, they make it sound like it's something special
SmudgyStew0999 they might just do the Weimar Republic and The Bavarian Communist Party Party. Maybe the Nazi Party. Idk. This was a key factor that lead to Hitler’s Seize of power.
hey westie, i wanted to tell you about an interesting weapon you could make a videos about: the thorneycroft bullpup rifle: it’s a bullpup sniper rifle which was built in 1901 i believe, and although it has never been used in combat i think it would make a very interesting and unique weapon for battlefield 1 to add in the apocalypse dlc. if you want to see how it looks, forgotten weapons made a video on it. hope you read this!
Slrs: buffed. smgs: buffed. lmgs: buf, nerf, nerf , nerf. Cant wait to get constantly 3 shot by invincible revive train squads of medics just firing constantly at 3d spot markers
This is my first Battlefield. I've been COD for the past 10 years. Honestly, I had a blast. It was a hell of a learning curve but it didn't take long. I'm MAX rank as of a few weeks ago. I'm always in the top 3 of the team. I do wish I got started with BF4, maybe i'll give it a try someday. So as an official Convert, i'm happy with leaving COD. Two years running and I think i'll stick with BF for the remainder of the year.
The January patch or as the few long suffering aggressive scouts refer to it; the end of their play style that was already at a serve disadvantage patch. Now they have to land that sweet spot or head shot first time every time as they’ll never get a second shot off or the time to even switch to secondary. Dice should maybe drop the iron-sighted rifles minimum sweet spots by 10-30m giving some chance to take someone out close range.
I'd love to see some actual variation in melee weapons. The hatchet is by far the most useful heavy melee, and all the light and medium weapons are identical.
They should add a feature to buy or unlock certain skins for weapons separate from community missions and/or exchange. I'm a bit of a completionist so since when DICE added the full list of skins and such, I've wanted to collect them all but it's hard to get some skins/tags that are impossible to collect due to them not being in revisions or never having any opportunity to even earn them.
Sitting on Ceilings oh my God I can't believe I forgot about that, as soon as I heard that statement I realized I learned that along time ago in class, and now that I think about it it might be possible to add them if it fits the theme
I believe this update should make what battlefield 1 was going to be at launch, it took them time to think of this update which is great, it takes time to make something brilliant, this is why I stand with dice now and forever, thanks for the news westie, keep it up!!
The tripwire bomb patch wont affect me because i would rather place my tripwire at two diffrent entrances rather then just one and if there is only one entrance to my hideout i will place a tripwire bomb further down towards the entrances
I have a Scout build that I almost only use on Fort De Vaux using the M1903 Experimental, gas grenades, gas trip mines (with Perimeter Defense)...it is effective although my trigger finger gets pretty tired.
I was hoping when you mentioned AT mines that they were going to make it so you cannot mine vehicle spawn points, there is nothing worse then spawning in with a much needed tank only to explode before game has time to fully spawn you in. Something that I run into lately is people who are using sniper variants of the bolt action rifles who are not displaying any sort of scope glint even as they shoot you from several hundred metres away. The high powered scopes give a massive advantage at long range and scope glint is supposed to be the balance for that but when you can avoid having scope glint at all then it breaks the whole situation. I don't know if they are using aimbots (i.e. ignoring the need to scope up in the first place), some sort of ADS/shoot macro or if it is the game glitching but it needs to be looked into.
The whole idea of diffrent weapons is a diffrent feeling to the gun and its own way of handling it. Making all of the guns the same thing is just gonna ruin the game.
guns I'm looking forward to using: cei rigotti optical (50m 3 hit kill) madsen trench (4 btk at close range, unaffected by slower ads bc hipfire) chauchat (25 meter 3 hit kill) mp18 trench (can actually put out damage now)
They won't. You still die in an ass load of shots. How does that equate to dying immediately? Oh wait, you're probably one of those guys that just runs into a group of guys without using cover, gets widdled down to low health then dies as soon as that group notices you and then bitches about how the cavalry class has no armor, lol.
I think you should be able to swap out the penderton device to a normal bolt action turning the experimental to a normal bolt action of the 1903. This was the whole reason of the device to allow a soldier to convert to s fast fire 9mm instead of the 5 round rifle clip. That would make the 1903 experimental a new life as per its intended use.
They should add a feature that makes your hitmarker turn different shades of colors or different colors of your choice for each shot hit in a sequence.
This is a big step in a good direction. One thing I noticed that makes me wonder. LMGs are essentially getting nerfed at close range, making it even harder to get and stay on objective. Is the scoring system going to change, in order to reflect that? As it stands, playing Support as intended nets very little score.
Tip that basically no one will see #1 put dynamite on the at mines, that will allow for at max three kills without having to get more, just for those who didn't know
So in my point of view the LMG patch will increase the camping time of the support class GREAT, the only thing that it needed to be tweaked about the LMGs was the shots to kill ratio and maybe add some recoil to balance them.
So the range of the Hellreigel has remained more or less the same while the damage is being boosted? The vertical recoil is being increased; however, is this cancelled out by retaining the Storm variant modifiers?
awtomat should have been ignored for the buff. If awtomat becomes even more accurate, we will not stop seeing exactly two kinds of medics: the ones which play the awtomat, and the ones which play the faquhar-hill.
As a support player it makes me nervous hearing all the changes coming to the weapons on that class. I'm just hoping these changes won't hurt as much as it sounds.
Thanks for a great, informative video. I had to watch it twice to try and get my head around all the new changes. I am glad the LMG's are getting some love
It would be nice if the hellreigle would jam from time to time as a way to balance it. I hate running into a squad all using hellreigles against my bolt action rifle.
So long as Dice remember they did all this and take it to BF2018 then it's all good. they did loads to bf4 like resolving headglitching and i don't know if it's how the kill cam works or if they just forgot, but it feels like they removed it in bf1
Hi Westie! Are these patch changes specifically for the PC or are they coming to the console as well? These would improve the PC experience I'm sure. Playing this game on console is a different experience as in my opinion the aiming is not as precise as PC. If these patch changes do go to the consoles it will change gameplay to an extent. I'd be interested in improvements to some of the semi auto handguns like more damage for the C96 for example and 1903 SMLE, up the accuracy of the revolvers, and the increased damage to the semi auto shotguns, which no one is using when I'm playing. Many players are using the newer weapons like the Federov, Farquhar, Perino etc while many players are still grinding using the crappy weapons to unlock. Medics are sniping constantly. SMG's aren't used much especially the automatico unless they are trying to unlock a weapon. I see the Hellriegel sometimes. SMG's are not used much compared to a year ago. Shotgun use is rare. You might see the M97 back bored and rarely the A 10 Hunter. I see medics, support and scouts everywhere. The assaults are throwing grenades constantly. The elite classes are snatched up before you can get to the location. I'd like a plane dogfight mode so I can actually get into a plane. The weapon I want to use is the A 10 slug, but that's a challenge with bullets flying everywhere. This is what I experience when I play on console. Hopefully, we get an elite class that can challenge the Trench class like a Jack Churchhill class. That would rock. I'm looking forward to more maps, weapons, and vehicles. Also, giving the scout a primary weapon where they can rush aggressively would keep them with the squad. Other than that they are all in the hills. I see them rushing with the Mars automatic and I don't blame them. If DICE adds a new weapon like the Model 1886 lever-action rifles chambered in 45-90 that would cool as well.
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Dice seems to be afraid of nerfing the hellrigel.
Valentin Hofmann there's no need anymore. Every weapon will be on par with hellrieger now
Azdie I doubt that. It received no new nerf so it’s still above everything else.
*besides the recoil that was tweaked on every smg.
when he said that they want to increase the range of the hellrigel I got realy annoyed
Fck the hellriegel
Valentin Hofmann they clearly want to but are afraid of backlash from all the hellriegel noobs
Still no Kolibri nerf... GG DICE.
HDcamel Heh, an Upotte! picture, that's rare
I thought they did. When the game first came out, I could only get 6 or 7 damage full clip, maybe 12 if I got head or close range. But now, 8 shots landed will get you like 27 damage, which is acceptable with a bolt action!
I wanna see more apocalypse stuff
kaiden tubbs Dice is going to release more information sometime soon.
I've been getting back into BF1 recently and I am really looking forward to the changes 👍
same my dude
After breaks I always come back to battlefield and I'm refreshed and having fun.
Best source for bf1 news by far.
Love ya mate. ;)
Thomas di Marco I just saw your comment on GetGoodGuy's channel. I guess you are a big battlefield fan just like me.
Hem Shah oh yea. What platform you on? (If you want to play)
Thomas Di Marco I play on ps4
Hem Shah me to
Thomas Di Marco im on ps4 too guys @ tommycarrillo
This Patch is very promising. For players of BF1.
No.
FORiDENTITY NoOne well yea its not promising for COD players
@angel m Right, thats what I was thinking.
Just to help you understand: 12 meter is the range SMGs are effective at now, not longer, as the recoil has been increased a bit (at least I thought). 12 meters is a very short distance
FORiDENTITY NoOne wow really
I hope apocalypse is going to expand the dlc
im expecting 12 maps minimum and at least 50 unique weapons and veichles
Squizzy lol.
Squizzy what is your favorite gun in bf1?
Assault Player
Mines the model 1900 and the machine pistole
Ok
I have to say.. for the first time, I have nothing bad to say about this update. At all. I love it all, and Ill be playing ALOT more very soon!
They need different patches for console and pc.
Rtot1738 agree. The game plays fine on vanilla rn
Agreed, some weapons are better on console, some are better on pc.
what? Im saying that since the games are played different it would make sense to optimize them for each platform. whatever platform you would be playing would be more balanced.
xwize wow an elitist pc gamer. What a shocker.
I used to play pc. Console is so much better ^_^
Ohno i have a different opinion to you. Dont have a heart attack getting triggered.
i doubt that they will but its never a bad suggestion.
Man, your choice of music is so good!
If you want to know the name of the song its Dream Chasers by Future World Music. :D
Solid Shepard Thanks man!
No worries!
it feels like they nerfed more in the lmg's then buffed, they didn't need to cover for their buffs, bc the lmg's were already the weakest gun section.
Well the hellriegel is still going to be the best with it's 650 fire rate and 60 rounds compared to the mp18 with 550 rpm 31 rounds and the ribey with 550rpm and 25 rounds.
Mikoogle lol.Hellrigel has smaller damage modul.
Daniel Antony except westie said that all smgs apart from the automatico will kill in 4 shots under 12 meters
The Hellriegel isn't the best. You're assuming that every shot always lands and that magically spread, recoil and muzzle velocity aren't a factor. Actually look at the weapon stats beyond rate of fire and magazine capacity on Symthic's website.
It's really annoying seeing all these new players that don't understand that they're not playing CoD and that all their guns are magically always accurate.
You can cover a lack of skill with either high rof or a large mag, why do you think hellriegel and automatico are so popular
Andrei Valdez In you're opinion what is the best smg in the game, And you are right I did over look the muzzle velocity and also slightly overlook recoil but in my opinion it is still the best well rounded smg in the game.
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Sorry to inform you but it pretty much died back the day it was released in November! But in another way wasn't as bad as Star Wars Brokenfront 2
Westie what ever happened to the Anti Air Rocket Gun??
polished orphan bit op and needed to be removed
It has been removed
Marshall Walton thx
Fouad Haddad thx
polished orphan From my understanding it is still in the CTE to be tested but DICE removed it in the last patch for some reason... it's still there though I think :)
The noobriegel experimental weapon never used and overpowered, as it does to have such a high rate and so little recount (650 per minute near the parabellum)
After playing on the CTE I found that I was struggling with guns that I have 500+ kills with on the base game thanks to the recoil changes. I can't say I enjoy the fact that I now have to relearn how to play this late in the game's development cycle even if it is for the better.
Maybe this will give medics a higher competitive edge against close to mid range engagements. This will finally give medics a real chance to support their team with heals and revives. Medics get no love until now!
I always get MVP with medic class regardless
AlternateAlternative fedarov avtomat. All i have to say
-070- I always use the m1907 sweeper
Medics ALREADY had some of the strongest guns in the game, you just had to aim and pace your shots
I feel like I already have a competitive edge on most people with the medic kit... I can only imagine after the patch.
Will the P16 machine pistol get a 4-shot kill aswell?
Lol that gun is too easy to get a kill with i think its better than shotguns
AcuraMatt B yeah I agree, if you fet within like 10-15 meters you can demolish someone
This is bullshit. It's already broken as fuck in a 25m engagement range. You can have a good 2 second jump on someone, land all your shots and still get fucked by this gun. I think it needs a slight nerf in either its damage, or recoil.
Nico Garcia with proper recoil control you can take out people 50meters away or more
Nico Garcia Yep well this patch will make shotguns almost as good. I feel like they just arent that consistent cuz of the random spread, i find myself using the double barrel now more than the 10a hunter
Any sidearm rebalance?
I think they are gonna make the Kolibri able to kill in 1 shot
LG The kolibri needs one thing, dual wield variant
No they were already pretty strong in cqc anyway.
Kaaris Zongo Le Dozo they are trash in cqc lol
Admyr 6 fake news. From 5 to 10 meters, the bulldog, the howdah, the bodeo and the auto revolver have better or very similar ttk with the automatico. Oh and the obrez 1 shot up to 10 meters. So yes sidearms are trash lol. Edit: grammar
You forgot about customizing tanks etc. without spawning (good video though).
I hope that is part of the patch he just forgot to mention. I hate changing my tank or truck to have a player spawn and take it it was in the game before.
It was added today
Any love for sidearms? Some are really lackluster
Bull dog revolver **cough**
I think the Kolibri needs a buff 🤷🏻♂️
That's the point. They're sidearms, not primaries.
And yet they can still kill faster than an lmg...
Some sidearms are pointless is why I ask. Nagant Revolver, Bulldog, Po8, 1912 reptierpistole are all pretty weak.
I just realized that the Huot doesn't have the vertical grip on it anymore. Thank god, cause that was annoying when the soldier held it by the drum magazine
I like bf1 but this patch is way overdue
Jesus you were so good with that double barrel I thought it was the one with the slug. The double barrel slug shotgun is very fun to use and feels great when you get a kill.
I just want to be happy with this update and it’s looks that way keep up the great work my man(rockstar in the morning mate)
Great changes. The change I would like to see is when you are working on a particular medal and you cannot earn that medal in the allotted time, whatever progress you have towards a worked on medal is saved, so when you get back to working on that medal, you pick up where you left off instead of starting over in the beginning of the medal.
When dose this patch release?
Sometime later this month
really
TUE JAN 30TH
Holy crap, just got back into BF1 for the first time in nearly 6 months and man has the game changed for the better. I've been a Battlefield fan since it first came to console with Bad Company 1, but I grew annoyed with the franchise after Hardline and BF1. I felt that BF1 had grown much to casual and needed serious balancing, and having played many hours in the past couple days, it seems to have gotten just what it needed. Thank you for FINALLY doing what should have been done months ago, DICE. Just please don't wait so long to fix Battlefield 2018 (because we all know it's going to need help too...).
What will happen to the Chauchat?
Malte Molin It’s getting its 3HK range extended further. This is a big change of function for the Chauchat, but it does feel very consistent in the CTE at the moment.
x with 69420 d's after it Does it still kill quickly compared to other Lmg's? I don't want the Chauchat ruined
Malte Molin it does.The damage was increased from 34 to 37 or something.
And the minimum damage is now 27 so it's a 4 shots kill at long range.
XD
What was that rocky map that was next to the ocean that you were playing on?
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I think that it's great the Developers are still tweaking this game this late in its life cycle. Especially since there's rumors of a new game or games being made for 2018. This weapon balancing update seems like it will be a breath of fresh air to what I personally beleive has become a somewhat stagnant game. Im really looking forward to this update along with the two new turning tides maps. Thanks for the informative bf1 videos Westie!
Heard the hellriegel is staying the same too
DANNYonPC oh yay buffing the hellriegal so now is will be abused more
Spacenuts why dice why?
David Brelu-Brelu that's not the problem anymore
they won't buff hellriegel but they'll buff all the unused weapons so i'm ok with it. Look at the launch of the game %99 is using hellriegel but now it's like %20/%10
The Lunatic Fish on SA ps4 servers right now its still 99% hellriegel. Not even joking mate. Didn't try the CTE version though
highlight clips that are not on hardcore always look so funny, loved the intro
I want grenadier in Apocalypse.
Lion Fish dude, the Infiltrator has that sick grenade launcher.
I know but real life ww1 grenadier. His weapons is revolver mk VI with PRITCHARD-GREENER BAYONET. and a lot of granates.
Grenade spammer elite class?
I think normal class
Lion Fish the elite cancer spammer? Is it coming soon?
For anyone wondering the intro music is called: Future World Music Dream Chasers
Wow, awesome. I like what's coming out in the future. Thanks Westie, for giving us a LOT infos about the next patch.
Bonrath! You're welcome! 👍
Really excited for this new patch, it does sound very very much like the big spring patch we had towards the end of bf4's life. That change also adjusted weapons to separate the distances and they were used at and to stop players picking the same 5 guns all the time
For Apocalypse I want the German Civil War! If u don’t know what this is, it’s a civil war fought by four factions. The Bavarian Communist Party, The Nazi Party, the Royalist German Party, and The Democratic Weimar Republic. I really want to see this in the game. This occurred in 1918-1919
MarsSWBF that's four factions, and that might be interesting, but if DICE is sticking to their 6 maps per DLC. I dunno if we'll see it, but I hope I'm wrong, they make it sound like it's something special
SmudgyStew0999 they might just do the Weimar Republic and The Bavarian Communist Party Party. Maybe the Nazi Party. Idk. This was a key factor that lead to Hitler’s Seize of power.
MarsSWBF The Nazi Party didn’t exist in 1918....
MarsSWBF The Great War ended in 1918...
christianoh98 That’s what I was thinking. I need to look this comments accuracy up. Might find a surprise awaiting me.
What about the Maschinenpistole M12 p.16 Storm
Any news on the ottoman kilij melee weapon On the cte?
Gog Mog they be added sometimes later
hey westie, i wanted to tell you about an interesting weapon you could make a videos about: the thorneycroft bullpup rifle: it’s a bullpup sniper rifle which was built in 1901 i believe, and although it has never been used in combat i think it would make a very interesting and unique weapon for battlefield 1 to add in the apocalypse dlc.
if you want to see how it looks, forgotten weapons made a video on it.
hope you read this!
They should increase the time to throw a grenade
They already did that😁😁
They should add the ability to toss a nade back. Sitting in a room no way out and you just have to sit there and take it up the ass
Hell no. It's already slow as balls. I'm more comfortable throwing a grenade in PUBG than in BF1 nowadays!
A gernade should have been a gadget for a class.
As a level 50 support player and working on my Assault player rank...this patch is music to my ears.
Slrs: buffed. smgs: buffed. lmgs: buf, nerf, nerf , nerf.
Cant wait to get constantly 3 shot by invincible revive train squads of medics just firing constantly at 3d spot markers
ChaiFox gotta agree after playing the cte most lmgs felt worse off than they were
Lmg's went to the highest ttk weapons in game, you just need to actually play the role correctly
This is my first Battlefield. I've been COD for the past 10 years. Honestly, I had a blast. It was a hell of a learning curve but it didn't take long. I'm MAX rank as of a few weeks ago. I'm always in the top 3 of the team. I do wish I got started with BF4, maybe i'll give it a try someday. So as an official Convert, i'm happy with leaving COD. Two years running and I think i'll stick with BF for the remainder of the year.
A head shot should ALWAYS be a one shot kill. At any range. How anyone can different blows my mind
Hans Palmer nope , only if you want your game to be 100% realistic
Considering most of the armies wear at least some sort of helmet, not really at any range. But in close to mid range yeah
Customizing youre own weapon like putting a 4x time scope on the henry. I like to see that in a major update.
Im hyped!
The January patch or as the few long suffering aggressive scouts refer to it; the end of their play style that was already at a serve disadvantage patch.
Now they have to land that sweet spot or head shot first time every time as they’ll never get a second shot off or the time to even switch to secondary. Dice should maybe drop the iron-sighted rifles minimum sweet spots by 10-30m giving some chance to take someone out close range.
Im just afraid about agressive-ptfo sniper who use infantry variant, but its seem to be a very good patch! 👍
Why? Snipers are unchanged.
The Big Boi every weapon is better in close/medium range so it will be more difficult for the agressive sniper
Initial [Earrape] oh I misunderstood your original comment. I thought you were worried about snipers being op
The Big Boi no problem👍
Initial [Earrape] ptfo aggressive sniper here. Not a big deal I'll just flank and headshot from behind
I'd love to see some actual variation in melee weapons. The hatchet is by far the most useful heavy melee, and all the light and medium weapons are identical.
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adzie 557 Hello mate!
Yay! Thanks Westie for uploading in 1440p! Keep up the good work :D
Hope the serbian army gets added in apocalypse
RIVARAPTOR would be nice!
RIVARAPTOR pretty sure the Canadians will arrive probably with vimy ridge map
RIVARAPTOR man can’t wait for them new operations coming in the Apocalypse dlc
Doubt it
Serbia did the first victory of ww1 :)
They should add a feature to buy or unlock certain skins for weapons separate from community missions and/or exchange. I'm a bit of a completionist so since when DICE added the full list of skins and such, I've wanted to collect them all but it's hard to get some skins/tags that are impossible to collect due to them not being in revisions or never having any opportunity to even earn them.
I’m want Canada for apocalypse
Golden Knights Same
Same but I want Serbia more
RIVARAPTOR what did Serbia even do during the war, just curious
Sitting on Ceilings oh my God I can't believe I forgot about that, as soon as I heard that statement I realized I learned that along time ago in class, and now that I think about it it might be possible to add them if it fits the theme
SmudgyStew0999 I still want Canada more though
I believe this update should make what battlefield 1 was going to be at launch, it took them time to think of this update which is great, it takes time to make something brilliant, this is why I stand with dice now and forever, thanks for the news westie, keep it up!!
I’m doing battlefield battlefront and starting fortnite
Wargamer 2096 ok
Westie when you said "grab a tea or coffee" I honestly just finished my coffee.
I hope a 4k patch for Xbox one X
The tripwire bomb patch wont affect me because i would rather place my tripwire at two diffrent entrances rather then just one and if there is only one entrance to my hideout i will place a tripwire bomb further down towards the entrances
Love your videos man ❤❤
As a premium pass owner I say make maps free for all but weapons and vehicles locked for premium pass members or dlc owners
Westie how often do you respond to others comments?
Lol dat optimism
10 likes? NEW PERSONAL RECORD.
Almost never
I try and reply to about 15 or 20 per video. This video so far has 900 comments, I just can reply to them all 😂
Westie who is this nerd?
I have a Scout build that I almost only use on Fort De Vaux using the M1903 Experimental, gas grenades, gas trip mines (with Perimeter Defense)...it is effective although my trigger finger gets pretty tired.
HYPE
I was hoping when you mentioned AT mines that they were going to make it so you cannot mine vehicle spawn points, there is nothing worse then spawning in with a much needed tank only to explode before game has time to fully spawn you in.
Something that I run into lately is people who are using sniper variants of the bolt action rifles who are not displaying any sort of scope glint even as they shoot you from several hundred metres away. The high powered scopes give a massive advantage at long range and scope glint is supposed to be the balance for that but when you can avoid having scope glint at all then it breaks the whole situation. I don't know if they are using aimbots (i.e. ignoring the need to scope up in the first place), some sort of ADS/shoot macro or if it is the game glitching but it needs to be looked into.
The whole idea of diffrent weapons is a diffrent feeling to the gun and its own way of handling it. Making all of the guns the same thing is just gonna ruin the game.
Reuven Fartook its helps if you dont completely misunderstand what the video says. Watch it over and try again
Someone didn't understand the video, try again bud
guns I'm looking forward to using:
cei rigotti optical (50m 3 hit kill)
madsen trench (4 btk at close range, unaffected by slower ads bc hipfire)
chauchat (25 meter 3 hit kill)
mp18 trench (can actually put out damage now)
Cavalry will just immediately
die without additional armor.
Templarium stay on your horse
I NEVER get off the horse.
They won't. You still die in an ass load of shots. How does that equate to dying immediately? Oh wait, you're probably one of those guys that just runs into a group of guys without using cover, gets widdled down to low health then dies as soon as that group notices you and then bitches about how the cavalry class has no armor, lol.
A horse survied 70 shots with my LMG that is already too OP
One can only hope. Calvary is easily the most OP thing in the game lol. I've seen them take direct hits from tanks and keep going.
I think you should be able to swap out the penderton device to a normal bolt action turning the experimental to a normal bolt action of the 1903. This was the whole reason of the device to allow a soldier to convert to s fast fire 9mm instead of the 5 round rifle clip. That would make the 1903 experimental a new life as per its intended use.
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Big Deks I’ll like every comment as well
They should add a feature that makes your hitmarker turn different shades of colors or different colors of your choice for each shot hit in a sequence.
Watching your channel makes me wish I had your accent. 😂💯👌
This is a big step in a good direction. One thing I noticed that makes me wonder. LMGs are essentially getting nerfed at close range, making it even harder to get and stay on objective. Is the scoring system going to change, in order to reflect that? As it stands, playing Support as intended nets very little score.
Daniel Greer why do you think reducing btk is gonna be a nerf in close range?
Hi
Thanks for the info Westie. Looking forward to the update!
Who disliked the vid
I did!
Sniperking1980 Gaming why
Because I view the patch as being extremely detremental to scout class which is what I main.
Tip that basically no one will see #1 put dynamite on the at mines, that will allow for at max three kills without having to get more, just for those who didn't know
first
So in my point of view the LMG patch will increase the camping time of the support class GREAT, the only thing that it needed to be tweaked about the LMGs was the shots to kill ratio and maybe add some recoil to balance them.
Second notification squad
So happy about the color blind options being added
So the range of the Hellreigel has remained more or less the same while the damage is being boosted? The vertical recoil is being increased; however, is this cancelled out by retaining the Storm variant modifiers?
I have a feeling my infantry rifle days might be shortened or done with. But at least I have other guns I can use that won't suck.
awtomat should have been ignored for the buff. If awtomat becomes even more accurate, we will not stop seeing exactly two kinds of medics:
the ones which play the awtomat,
and the ones which play the faquhar-hill.
Westie what era in would you like the next battlefield game to be in modern,ww2,Vietnam or future?
As a support player it makes me nervous hearing all the changes coming to the weapons on that class. I'm just hoping these changes won't hurt as much as it sounds.
Thanks for a great, informative video. I had to watch it twice to try and get my head around all the new changes. I am glad the LMG's are getting some love
On Gallipoli, I like the scout, cause he looks like a Gurkha. And having completed the puzzles, that’s where I’m using the kukri.
It would be nice if the hellreigle would jam from time to time as a way to balance it. I hate running into a squad all using hellreigles against my bolt action rifle.
So long as Dice remember they did all this and take it to BF2018 then it's all good. they did loads to bf4 like resolving headglitching and i don't know if it's how the kill cam works or if they just forgot, but it feels like they removed it in bf1
Looks like Westie took my advice on the fahrquads buckhorn iron sights
Hi Westie! Are these patch changes specifically for the PC or are they coming to the console as well? These would improve the PC experience I'm sure. Playing this game on console is a different experience as in my opinion the aiming is not as precise as PC. If these patch changes do go to the consoles it will change gameplay to an extent. I'd be interested in improvements to some of the semi auto handguns like more damage for the C96 for example and 1903 SMLE, up the accuracy of the revolvers, and the increased damage to the semi auto shotguns, which no one is using when I'm playing. Many players are using the newer weapons like the Federov, Farquhar, Perino etc while many players are still grinding using the crappy weapons to unlock. Medics are sniping constantly. SMG's aren't used much especially the automatico unless they are trying to unlock a weapon. I see the Hellriegel sometimes. SMG's are not used much compared to a year ago. Shotgun use is rare. You might see the M97 back bored and rarely the A 10 Hunter. I see medics, support and scouts everywhere. The assaults are throwing grenades constantly. The elite classes are snatched up before you can get to the location. I'd like a plane dogfight mode so I can actually get into a plane. The weapon I want to use is the A 10 slug, but that's a challenge with bullets flying everywhere. This is what I experience when I play on console. Hopefully, we get an elite class that can challenge the Trench class like a Jack Churchhill class. That would rock. I'm looking forward to more maps, weapons, and vehicles. Also, giving the scout a primary weapon where they can rush aggressively would keep them with the squad. Other than that they are all in the hills. I see them rushing with the Mars automatic and I don't blame them. If DICE adds a new weapon like the Model 1886 lever-action rifles chambered in 45-90 that would cool as well.
I’m curious how much vertical recoil is being added to the ribeyrolles
As usual, great video Westie.
Hey Westie, could you put a link to the patch notes in the description. Trying to make your videos a quick one stop battlefield shop!
Do they have a DLC coming out for the campaign? Heard that they were going to add on to the campaign mode and wanted to know if this was true.
it is