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Xenoblade 2: FINAL Blade Tier List
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2020
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Thought it would be time to update those old videos from a while back with new information and what I have learned. Wanted to get this out before Xenoblade DE for anyone who might still care anymore. It should be worth noting this is geared more towards postgame and optimized builds so you can assume blades are maxed out.
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So what are your thoughts on the full list? Any changes you'd make?
Full list.
S+ Tier:
1. Poppi QTpi
2. Fiora
S Tier:
3. Elma
4. KOS-MOS
5. Corvin
6. Dagas
A Tier:
7. Mythra/Pneuma/Pyra
8. Shulk
9. Crossette
10. Patroka
11. T-elos
12. Pandoria
B Tier:
13. Adenine
14. Herald
15. Zenobia
16. Brighid
17. Wulfric
18. Mikhail
19. Nim
20. Akhos
21. Poppi QT
22. Sever
23. Azami
24. Agate
C Tier:
25. Vale
26. Gorg
27. Newt
28. Praxis
29. Theory
30. Sheba
31. Nia
32. Roc
33. Poppibuster
34. Perceval
35. Poppi Alpha
36. Obrona
37. Perun
38. Cressidus
D Tier:
39. Perdido
40. Kasandra
41. Boreas
42. Ursula
43. Aegeon
44. Dahlia
45. Vess
46. Floren
E Tier:
47. Godfrey
48. Kora
49. Finch
50. Dromarch
51. Electra
Shulk is S+
Herald and Zenobia are basically outclassed by Kos-Mos and Fiora. It's a shame because what really bans Zenobia is the damage cap at 999999. If that cap didn't exist her hits would be about 1.5 million easily vs superbosses but once you reach the cap then DPM it's the rule and Fiora can't be defeated there. I'm surprised T-los is behind Mythra, I almost spill my coffee seeing that. Dagos is just too OP. I still wonder what the devs were thinking with him, he's so good and I guess even the devs didn't count he could be so useful. Nim has similar skills to him but just a 50% instead of 120%...yeah, the difference is obvious.
Enel I see that Dagas is usually on either Morag or Zeke but it's always switching between, I know the only way you can get an overdrive protocol after opening chests is releasing 4 crown common blades with full affinity charts. Do you do allot of common blades chart grinding?
If the entire point of C-tier is to rank blades with one specific purpose, why isn't Finch there? I don't want to pretend Finch is anywhere near decent, but she does now in fact have a specific purpose which should be noted.
I rly agree with the list btw. In the original list, I already felt that Herald and the Aegis girls were placed a bit too high. I think this list is a lot better :)
@@samsonik5885 Once you reach NG+ you can buy as many as you want from the bard.
Poppi is the strongest not because she's stronger than the Aegis, but because she actually won against DLC powercreep.
What do you mean?
@@stripedrajang3571 A lot of the DLC is broken as fuck and Poppi remained the best blade in the game despite that. Just look at Fiora. She's busted as hell but Poppi is still better.
@@broom2839, I see. I'm currently playing the game now, with all dlcs, in chapter 4, and am enjoying a couple dlc blades at the moment. 😊
@@stripedrajang3571 if youre just going through the game, tier lists wont matter to you but the DLC characters eill make your time VERY comfy
@@SicklySeraph, yes, they have. Especially Corvin lol.
Herald being outclassed by KOS-MOS is under the assumption that it didn't take me well over 300 hours to get KOS-MOS.
I know your pain. It took me around that much time, and I was literally shaking once I finally got her.
Got her at level 21 during my first ever playthrough... Didn't know she was this OP at the time but she made the game much easy tbh...(Yes I quickly realized that spaming level 2 special was pretty good )
@@Kokush0 People are going to hate me for this, but I got the DLC, divided the free Core Crystals between all playable characters, used 5 Legendary Cores with Rex as soon as I could, then used 5 with Nia... and got her within those 5.
TLDR: The gacha smiled upon me and I was blessed with KOSMOS as soon as I could get her.
I actually got KOS-MOS around level 10 or so... right after saving Nia I opened 3 crystals and got Electra, some non rare blade, and then KOS-MOS
I got her trying to get that stupid mega lance giant for the poppi upgrade mission.
Fun fact: Electra only has 1 aux core slot because there was a bug in development, where giving her a second slot caused her to bypass the damage cap, dealing 700-trillion damage every 1.5 seconds to all enemies in combat, regardless of range. After heated discussion and debate amongst the dev team, it was determined that this bug made Electra too overpowered, so she was left with a single aux core slot. This concludes our story here at The Onion News Network.
Oh my god this is amazing
so.. she would be s if we used a dev build?
@@Cruptile Nah OG comment is just a meme, don't take it seriously.
lmao if that bug still available she gonna make all aegis like child toy.
Interesting to hear about these tidbits that took place during development
It’s so funny how dumb and silly tora is and yet he could create a blade more powerful than anything else lmao
His horny is an unstoppable force
Poppy qtpi is broken as Hell if you Max her, but cost a bunch of grinding or ng+ abuse
Tora managed to create a blade that is more powerful than the aegis...
I have poppy qtpi at max power (S+) with most broken build. She does 999999 a hit in almost all her combos during chain attacks. You pulverize even the most powerful boss in seconds.
That's just how Chad he is
Qtpi be like: customizable for every situation. 28 uses
Dagas: Kaiser Zone. 45 uses.
we need an Kaiser Zone aux core
And kaiser zone skill RAM
@@amitaish1055
If there was a kaiser zone skill ram dagas would never be used again
@@obamaorb7426 No. Poppi and Dagas would be married because they make each other stronger by 120% and the third blade by 240%. Dagas also has blade combo bonus on top of that shit. It would mean that Dagas and Poppi would have a threesome with Fiora or Corvin.
The problem here, of course, is that you forgot to account for dromarch's increased movement speed, which i think moves him up two tiers at least.
Top of B tier easily
how you can increase dromarch's movement speed?
@nicov.1780 , this is only useful OUTSIDE of battle. When you have Nia and Dromarch, Nia rides Dromarch, they travel through maps slightly faster than any other character on foot.
It's a shame Pneuma never got an affinity chart or equip slots. Would've loved it if we could have her be permanently available in NG+. I'm a sucker for ponytails. Great video btw.
So I went ahead and used a save editor to turn a common blade in Pneuma. Gave her OP stats along with KOS-MOS and Herald's battle skills and she's pretty much the top dog on my team. Her auto-attack damage at S+ trust is 2300+ and her specials hit the damage cap.
@@shahzehan8789 Dude, do you have a gbatemp for that? I'd love to try and do something like that, or edit around the skills of other blades!
@@shahzehan8789 Yeah thats probably why they kept her as a transformation b/c shes capable of breaking the game. I'll have to try the save editing myself for her.
Pneuma has fixed like 1200 attack and she has a 100% critical aura (better than +40% of fiora) for all team, the evade hit aura, All hits are guaranteed criticals, and her defenses are like 60% she's broken as Hell until your other blades hits More than 1500 atack
Specific Placement Change Timestamps:
1:51 Finch
2:39 Roc
3:40 Cressidus
4:42 Agate*
5:01 Sever*
5:21 Poppi QT*
5:46 Azami
6:21 Akhos*
6:40 Adenine
7:21 Nim*
7:44 Mikhail*
8:03 Wulfric*
8:31 Brigid & Zenobia - Swap placement
9:27 Herald
10:32 Crossette
11:25 Corvin
12:30 Patroka
13:01 T-elos
13:37 Dagas
14:56 Shulk*
15:41 Pandoria
16:41 Aegis
17:18 KOS-MOS
18:01 Elma
18:43 S+ Tier (Fiora & Poppi QTpi)*
* - No change; included for completion
Welp
Time to engrave the new tier list into my brain and "why the hell do I know this" knowledge
Your technical knowledge of this game is so impressive, i havent got to the point where i can make builds yet but when i do your videos will be a big belp :)
Why didn’t you mention Jin? In his challenge, he can perform a while driver combo on his own! Easily S+ tier from that 1 challenge alone
So broken you can't even take him into challenge mode
@@TheLaserSonic so broken he has his own challenge in challenge mode.
Well, that art takes forever to charge up
@@Fermin-hw5pd not really, it might feel like that because you fight super weak enemies so you will kill them before charging up the art most of times
If only you could get him as an actual blade
I would enjoy a video where you would talk about how to „buff“ the low tier blades. I know the power creep is so insane but I still think it would be interesting
This might be a good idea in the future.
Hmm yes this game is very lopsided
For shield hammers I would give every driver a aggro grab (Aggro thief!!)
@@gachalibra9243 for shield hammers they just need to double all animation speed
Nerf Fiora and dlcs to be more reasonable.
Hey Enel, your common blade only run has inspired me to do a Corvin only run and all the guides you’ve made have really helped me in all my other playthroughs. Thanks man!
Just cleared the Corvin only run. 24 hours roughly. Good time I’d say for my first time doing this.
Corvin is one of my favorite blades!
I like how players still playing this masterpiece❤
Just bought it a few days ago. :) People are certainly still playing (and some of them (like me) are even looking forward to playing Xenoblade 1 - DE or otherwise. :)).
masterpiece is a pretty big stretch.
Fav rpg of all time
I mean it's taken us all 2.5 years to learn how to play it, would be pretty silly to stop now
Lmao, I getting my copy by mail tomorrow. Looking forward for it.
I remember looking at the datamines for Fiora prerelease, seeing all her crazy critical stuff, and thinking that she was going to be broken af. And she was even better than I expected.
i bought the game like 2 years ago and stopped playing at like chapter 8 with 100 hours. never truly understood the combat mechanics in the game and therefore really appreciate that you still keep making these videos and especially that combat tutorial one 2 months ago. now waiting for chronicles definitive edition to come out this month so i can have a fresh start with the series once again
"at like chapter 8 with 100 hours" what the fuck?
@@ripsaw2 My guess is they spent a *lot* of time idling.
@paula how the f did you max everything after 100 hours. That is impossible unless you only maxed the few blades that you have. Otherwise noway you can 100% everything in 100 hours.
Bruh I'm in the same boat as you lol
Thats what generally happens when you don't take the tutorials seriously lol. Lots of ppl beaten the game and never heard of the break-topple-launch-smash combo and then have the nerve to give it negative reviews on the battle system..
Finch will always be S+ in my heart! 😭
Finch kinda reminds me a bit of Neptunia. Smol, a bit scatterbrained, voice is kinda similar too.
“It’s not quite on the level of the other blades I...”
“PULVERISING PULVERISING PULVERISING”
As someone who absolutely loves Xenoblade and over 450 hours into the game with every Blade S+ ...it feels so good when other people feel the same Passion about it ... or in your case...even more
I'm almost close to 400 hours. I just finished building Poppi QTpi yesterday. 😊
How you guys feel about the 3rd installment? Fun fact, it what got me into the series..
A welcome send-off to blades as a whole. Definitely the coolest change that XB2 holds as it's own. I'd be both interested how another iteration could, well, iterate on the blade system further, but I'm also really content with how it was fleshed out in XB2. To be fair, a great deal of that understanding that helps me appreciate them comes from your content, thanks Enel :^)
Almost thought this is a Zero video with this intro :D Jokes aside lots of love Enel
He told me to do it LOL
@@EnelXC ahahaah I FUCKING KNEW IT :D You guys should do content together more often, its really fun
Just give it some time and enel will have videos on Xc2 prodigies beating his challange mode records
Luke Kapetanios ...Oh
Recently, I decided I'd want to try completing as much of this game as possible (all quests, maxing out all Affinity Charts, finishing as much Challenge Mode content as possible) and I decided to come check out this channel to help me get started taking it seriously. Luckily, this video was uploaded not even half an hour ago, and - having watched some other videos here casually - it reminded me this channel seems like the perfect place to get started. Thank you for making videos with this much in-depth discussion over the topics, it'll hopefully help out a ton in the long run!
I still think the Aegis’ are S tier and I really do think Herald should still be A tier but I totally see why they were moved. There are so many amazing blades in this game I’m glad that so many of them are actually really really good. The game is a masterpiece. In the last 2 months I’ve put in nearly 700 hours and I haven’t really played anything else nor gotten sick of this game at all yet. Thanks for the vids they have helped a lot
230hrs in since i bought the game and a switch last sept 2019.. just realized ive been using low tier blades all this time. time to work on cutiepie,
I love how in depth you are, your guides helped me a lot on challenge mode. Great work Enel!
I started Xenoblade 2 yesterday so this video is a godsend lol
Tbh outside of challenge mode this list doesn’t matter too much. I beat the game using some shit tier blades listed here.
Summer / Planetarial agreed. I just started and I’ll never do super bosses or postgame but still enjoyed the video so I could learn the strengths
I really enjoy kora :(
What did it cost?
2 years and a pandemic.
Actual thumbnails really be neat
I like how Newt is the first blade shown when I came here to see where she is on this list after watching her blade guide. lol
I’d love a series where you suggest theoretical ideas to improving the Blades at the bottom, while keeping the things that make each one distinct.
I have plans for something like this that will be very fun to do.
@@EnelXC :)
I'm glad you're still making xc2 content, really enjoying it :D
I’ll be honest here, Nia is one of my favourite blades, what with her consistently healing Rex for auto attacking and Redemption being one of the best healing arts IMO, it’s really hard to die with Nia in the party. Of course, I understand why she is only in C-tier, since she can’t contribute to Driver Combos and her specials aren’t overly damaging, her auto-attack damage is pretty high for a healer, and with the right Aux cores, Core Chips, etc. Nia could be the perfect blade to pull out when you party starts dropping down.
or just heal off crits and realize healers are entirely pointless
Well, healing off crits needs big damage, which leaves no space for support-based skills, so healers aren’t entirely useless.
Aux cores like Affinity Max Barrier go well with them, and other different ones like Ultimate Shield work well too.
Late game healers like Nia serve a niche Party-wide support/ Defensive use. Building them to make the user nearly unkillable, and support the party with heals that the Xenoblade AI is too stupid to give themselves.
Healers mostly boil down to niche uses in the late game, but they’re still fun AF to use.
@@themonkeyman2910 bro u straight up heal ur whole healthbar with 1 art
nia is completely and utterly useless, not to mention you get heals in more ways than just crit heals
@@escapetherace1943 and then Rex fails to get a crit for some reason (wether it be Mythra didn’t feel like it, or you miss your attack), in which case, he’s screwed without Nia or someone else with a healer blade. Has happened to me more than once.
@@escapetherace1943 also, this disrespect against Fiora, a healer blade, is heresy. Sure, she works a lot differently than other healer blades, but because Fiora has a healing art and heals you from her specials in addition to potions, she’s still a healer blade nonetheless.
I can’t stop playing this game, it’s been two years now please help
I barely started playing it about 2 weeks ago and have +150 hours on my save file. It's an amazing game I feel ya!
This is becoming addictive
@@paperandpavement same here bro i just started playing last week im at 72 hours. Beyond impressed with this game from the difficulty to the complexity of the combat system i have to say its now in my top 5 of all time.
It's been one year for me did you stop playing
@@gachalibra9243 Not at all... I'm currently grinding for OP common blades :)
Seeing finch in E teir is the equivalent of kicking a baby bird
I found it kinda hilarious how when you were using Pulverizing Dunk with Crossette, you were just hoppity hopping over and over again. XD
I’m tempted to do a dromarch only run to make you move him up on the tier list
Woah holy shit, I didnt expected some dude making still videos about xenoblade 2. Im so happy that I found you 🙏🏻
I got back into this game and finished it a second time after watching your
After 285 hours I finally got Kos-Mos!!! Thanks brotha for all of your help!
Luxin’s going to be happy that Finch got moved up!
The info in this video is astounding. Really hope you start growing faster enei
Can we at least agree that Pneuma would be goated if she lasted just a little longer?
I wish she retained Mythra's Lightspeed Flurry
Yeah she can't do much in the 2 frames she's active
Great content as always! Not going to lie, I snort-laughed around 9:15 when you were talking about Zenobia’s damage output.
You must be psychic or something because I literally just finished rewatching your original tier list!
15:54
Enel: *talking and does ULFSM*
Mikhail: *insert Mario 64 screaming sound effect*
Thanks for the work u put into these Enel ❤
👏👏👏👌👌👍👍 good job on nailing the intro! It was quick and nice! Woo! Good intro yyyy! 👍👍👍👍 🌟⭐️💫⭐️🌚🌞 oh yeah and thanks for the tier list
man it's not my fault
Your video quality has improved a lot.
Corvin really is a savior for me. Helped me in a solo Morag attempt against the second Elma fight. She's the perfect dodge tank, and his second special was the perfect AoE to hit all of the phantom Elmas at once.
Thanks for everything !!! this is gold content
This tier list is super helpful since I'm still doing ng+ and I'm still trying to get into end game bosses
God the combat in this game is so fun. I hope the next Xenoblade game is built off of 2 combats just enhanced.
I always that Corvin was S rank tier. The guy is just broken with Morag he can tank and heal the party dealing dps at the same time.
Knew Pandoria was coming down, but it still hurt lmao
Thank you for all of the info you've provided these past few years.
Stellar content as always man, I’m really proud to see all the progress that’s been made for this game ever since the early days. Can’t wait to see your Xenoblade DE content when that drops and to see you destroy the game lol
I never clicked on a video so fast, literally just came here from playing Xenoblade 2
Thanks for these updated builds! Just what I was looking for.
I actually started replaying this and this is perfect
Are you going to ignore the fact that some common blades are better than some of these rare blades?
Also amazing videos. Very useful for many different scenarios. You are most certainly the best guide on this game.
Not ignoring, but there isn't really a point to ranking common blades when they're all completely random. rare blades never change.
This was meant as a joke as some people don't realize the potential of some common blades. Much respect to you. And again love your videos.
Having Godfrey and boreas on Rex was one of my main combinations for early game because I didn’t have three healer rare blades on nia (something about my ocd made me refuse to use common blades). This served me pretty well but after a while I stoped using Godfrey but boreas is still my favorite healer blade.
The fact the shulk and the Monado are weaker than fiora and her knives makes me want to laugh
I just watched the tier list videos yesterday, this is perfect
The timing is funny because Fatalordi (in french) did a list based on the use in world record (and he said that you have most of them) few weeks ago.
I wasn't even aware of this, I'll look it up now.
Played through the story in the game and that’s about it. I’m entertained, yet overwhelmed and confused 😅
Can’t wait for the definitive edition speed run! I’m really enjoying your content, keep up the good work!
late to party but i got kosmos & dagas. your guides helped alot lol
It’s nice to see people finally appreciating Dagas 😭
I got this game exactly one year ago, played it for four months straight, and am now just playing it again. This sort of stuff really helps because I have not done any challenge mode yet, so thanks for your efforts.
Funny to see how some of my favorite Blades, such as Kasandra and Ursula, are low-tier Blades. That won't keep me from using them, though.
Also, not necessarily related to the video's topic, but I am planning to replay XC2 in the near future, and I would love ANY tips for Spirit Crucible Elpys. It's the only time in the game (maybe even Xenoblade as a whole) where I've really struggled a lot. It just puts so many restrictions on the battle system (no Blade combos, no Max Affinity, no Pyra/Mythra on Rex...) that enemies become a huge pain to deal with (particularly those Aspids in the final section), not to mention the area is just way too long and kind of difficult to navigate. So far, it's easily my worst experience with the Xenoblade series (even worse than a certain boss in XC1), and I would appreciate any help to make it less of a slog.
Driver combos.
I always felt that kaiser zone is absolutely broken, Now I know Zero 2.0 (Intro Vibes) Keep up the awesome content Enel
ok i think after watching hours of pro xenoblade play i should be able to finally beat elma.
been really liking the change in style lately
So ur telling me if Fiora didnt die in XC1, she wouldve just thanos snapped zanza. Smh thanks plot induced character development 🙄
Now THIS is exactly what I needed :)
Ranking the blades by usage is a good idea.
haha i was made aware you did something similar a while back but included blades used as stat mods, i didn't count those in my own stats here
Tbh I struggled to know which common blades were used in which challenge. In your spreasheet I see you counted the ones with Orb Master/Ultimate Combo. btw I laughed when I saw you used the same Ice Megalance for 75% of the early battles.
Bro thanks a lot. This really helped me.
Love how Kos-Mos is still an incredible blade to the point that she makes other blades look worse than they are by comparison, Monolith could have just put her in the game as a memento, instead they took the care and effort to make her unique and useful. I wish Xenosaga would have got a remastered or something, I think it deserves it and I really want to play it.
Wow all of my blades suck. But I don't play competitively, so I'm going to stick with Mythra, Nia, and Obrona for Rex.
Wow a heart, thats pretty flippin neat! I only commented 10 months late because I just got xenoblade because I wanted to learn more about pyra/mythra when they were added to smash bros, and now the game has become one of my top favorites.
I just rewatched this and I realized that since the last time I watched it, I changed Obrona to Fiora without even knowing how good she is. Now I have to try her on Morag!
Wow this is a pretty in-depth list. However for me as a person who's just playing through the game for casual fun my decision factor on what blades to use comes down to who looks coolest. 😆 This video has been pretty insightful on the intricacy of blade abilities that I couldn't be bothered to pay any attention to.
I know that it's kinda pointless saying this, but I completely agree with all the changes you made (Kaiser Zone is broken lol). Also I like your new thumbnails, hopefully you'll start to get more attention on RUclips - who knows, maybe when Xenoblade DE releases you might. I usually just troll in your twitch chat and write small comments on yt but I decided to comment this because I've really enjoyed watching you recently, good luck in the future and I'll continue to watch your videos
Kasandra is S+ for cuteness :')
You're right about the bad blades being usable. Part of the fun in games for me is doing new game + and using awful characters makes it challenging and fun. Like using Sharla in the original.
I love how the two best blades in the game aren't really true blades at all.
God damn it I got kora
I would definitely place Corvin before Kos Mos. Its not like Kos mos is bad, but Corvin is much more useful than her like all his recharge on evasion which combine with Noise Dampener can make short work of most enemies . In fact in BoC (story) you do not want to disengage him at all. Good thing is you can get him as soon as in chapter 2. He is easy-to-use character for most new players.
My opinion may seem biased because I played the game only recently and he's one of the earliest blade I got and played with.
KOS-MOS has quite a bit more usage than him and all of it is because of how good she is specifically, it's hard to justify corvin above her with that in mind. She's very very good.
If you're saying, she's definitely more useful. Its just that I first played the game last month, I had Corvin in my team (definitely strongest in my team back then) and progressed through the story along with him. I got Kos mos around tantal area but didn't find her as useful as her chart was not fully available and slow recharges (didn't have much WP) . So What I tried to say was Corvin gives a really good ""First time experience"" of game for new players and I think that's why I prefer him😅 lol
Also if you do BoC speedrun of game in future, he's definitely best choise
wowwwww, i just watched the old tier list earlier today!! btw, subscribed after first view ;)
18:28 Goddammit
I thought I was strong at the endgame. I was quickly proved wrong.
Great video Enel. When it comes to the combat system, I think your channel is definitely the best.
Welp. Now I have to get back to playing this game... Thanks ;)
imagine not being subscribed lol...
thumbnail and mic game on point now, Enel! i will admit, there was a certain charm to those MSPaint pen writing thumbnails though. great content as always, keep it up
I personally liked the mspaint thumbnails but i can't deny how sucessful the new ones have been. it's likely better to continue as i have been.
i got perun as my first rare summon, and shes pretty so ill take her, only at chapter 3 too xD
Wow, and I got Dagas early in the game, like chapter 3!
gimme dahlia and cosmos
and of Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition - Collector's Set
The greatest pain is when all of your favorite blades just suck :(
Bromarch deserves a buff.
We all know the best blade in the game is the common blade you get as your first core in the story.
When's the mario kart 8 tier list coming out
There's way better content creators than me for that haha
Realized I wasn't subscribed to you. Fixed, and thank you for your knowledge!