Pile of shame is slowly converted to a smaller "Prime" pile. From there it's converted into a much smaller painted pile. It's a process. Like tracking a glacier's movement.
I will never get tired of hearing you being sensible, decent, and affirming. I always feel better after watching your videos and that's something I can't say about a lot of RUclips, frankly.
As laws of physics state: The higher the pile, higher the potential energy! I don't like selling minis, but sometimes it's the best course of action. It allows funding minis that I could actually paint.
People that don't buy new minis until they build and paint the ones they have exist, I'm one of those! It is actually my motivation to finish my pile, when I see something new I want I make myself finish my current project in order to buy new minis.
I used to do this whole 'pile of shame' overbuying as a teenager, I have a ton of unpainted space wolves in another country. but as an adult, I've been able to exercise self control and I never buy new minis unless my current project is done/almost done. feels great honestly
it takes a lot of self control, but it really pays off. I can't buy any of the new 30k boxes until all of my night lords kill team is painted. sure it sucks to not have models that I want when they come out, but this is a huge motivator for getting me to paint. wanting new models motivates me to get the ones I am working on done, so I can buy them. I feel like as a hobby focused wargamer, it helps to think of your models like a sketchpad. you can buy another one when it's full, but there is no point in buying a new pad to draw in when you have so many empty pages. it's also removed my guilt from buying plastic crack. I only ever buy two units at a time, and I always know when I do it's because I had a great time painting the last two boxes, and it's because I really want to work on the next two. it's removed any sort of impulsive buying, I just get what I really really want now. it's fantastic. I really do believe anyone can be like this when it comes to the hobby. it just takes a conscious effort to change your relationship with purchasing. it becomes about the project, and not just buying cool minis.
I’m glad I’m not the only one. My wife is completely surprised by my ability to not get a new sets until I finish my current project. It took a lot time to build up that self control.
The 'pile of shame' isn't just a cute nick name for it anymore. It's shame on top of anxiety, guilt and feeling of being overwhelmed by the task of working out what is there and how to move it on. I've come to terms with knowing that life isn't going to give the time that i was hoping to spend on the hobbies anymore - which I'm fine with as it leaves more time for family - and I'd be lying to myself (and the wife) that I will ever get the time for it again which isn't fair or a healthy perspective. Just need to find the time to now spend on working on releasing the unused models back out to people that could hopeful give them more of a life I can. Thanks Uncle Atom, will watch this video a few more times to keep me motivated as the journey continues. Thanks 🤝
Almost 3 years ago I took a pile of stuff to a local Warboot, had a blast, made over a grand selling stuff. Went to another a few months ago with the same result. In the years in between I never even opened the boxes those mins were in. In the cold light of day, if you're never going to play the game again, sell it to someone who really wants it. I can't deny that I'm sad to see my Templars go for pennies on the pound, but they were literally worthless gathering dust in a box in the garage. After that enormous cull of mins and ALL my terrain, I STILL have several 80 litre boxes left in the garage; Titanicus, never played, mostly painted, hope to get to a table one day. Space Hulk still playing, Dreadfleet (move along, nothing to see here), elf lady on a beetle, always wanted to paint her, will do this year, and a few other odds and sods. I feel your pain I really do, but if you can keep only the armies you play and once your display case(s) are full, it's better to be one in one out Final advice: when you go to a Warboot to sell your collection. Do. Not. Buy. Anything. Right I'm off to scour Facebook for stuff I don't need but have to have!
@@HeadCannonPrime Like a carboot, but you sell (mainly Games Workshop) stuff you no longer paint/play. Sometimes historical stuff, and if you're real lucky a few board games. Highly recommend attending as a buyer or seller. It brings me joy to see my stuff getting a second life!
I had a box of Indomitus about 15% assembled and painted under my bed for over a year and a half and bought Cursed City and Blackstone Fortress and stuff was just sitting around. Threw Indomitus as it was on ebay, returned my Cursed City and told myself I'd finish Blackstone Fortress before I bought another big box. Got two small boxes after that (one completed, one 25% completed), but I'm down to five models left in BSF, just primed two of them this morning before leaving for work! New rule is finish a box, get a box (or don't get a box)
Does anyone else identify with the Scrooge feeling of having all the figures for a big project, including lots of rare and oop stuff, all sat in one big box. You get pleasure from getting it all out from time to time in the knowledge that ‘one day’ you’ll get round to it!
I have come round the bend and now looking at all the stuff I didn't do fills me with regret. I have at least 2,500 pts of orcs painted and another 2,000 sitting partially done for the last 4 years. Every time I see them I get this sick feeling of waste since I don't even play orks or even 40k anymore.
As a 3D printer, my pile of shame(potential) isn't only the half box of MCP, 800 pts of space marines, misc DnD minis, and other whatnots I thought looked cool at the FLGS... but also the 300gig and growing STL folder.
I must admit, I'm one those "unicorn". I have no pile of shame. There are grey models in my bits box, but as I play Warcry, I have no need of 10 dire wolves. I painted 3, and the remaining 7 are bits.
@@sebastiencarrieres8825 well it would be one thing if it was small warbands, unfortunately for me its full armies.. I just get so invested in it and then as you naturally swap to other armies for variety. Hard to sell at that point.
I mean, buying a pack of 10 wolves to only use 3 and dismantle the rest is just as bad as buying an army and only painting under a third of it. That example you gave states you have more grey then painted but since it's a small scale you seem to feel exclusive. Quite funny 😁 lol.
I've done a couple of short videos on the pile. One thing that helped me reduce it was filming myself painting, as it motivated me to get started. It took a while to not give every model the hero treatment though. Not all of them end up posted as full painting videos, but I don't feel bad about taking a break from painting now.
Sadly I still get FOMO...but that's due to Patreon deals for STLs being so good (I can get these 20+ models for $10 this month...but if I wait it'll cost $50). Even worse I now not only have a pile of shame...but an almost 400gb "hard drive of shame" XD
@@badgerwijohnson4081 you need to get excited about creating and fielding one army or game or scenario. This way you divert your attention from horsing the next game and actually start executing and the painting, crafting, world building, and best of all …game playing. Set a date in the future with friends and work towards that. Good luck mate!
I'm currently in a phase of finishing every project I have built before I build anything else. So far I've painted half of AoS Dominion, two flames of war armies, half a bolt action army, a dystopian wars starter, and still have a necromunda crew, a Warhammer underworlds box, an invictor, and a few other things. Pile of shame is also occasionally still growing but gradually getting there.
I'm new to the hobby, a few months, about 30 minis painted, some terrain and so on, but so far I managed to only buy minis when I'm done (or almost done) with the previous box and I intend to keep it that way :P
Good job but as the above says, you'll most likely get pulled in if it becomes your main hobby due to dumb fomo tactics. However if you keep in mint condition you'll break even or make money so it's fine. Still, sticking to a plan is always best just... hard haha
Then GW will release a big box set for YOUR army with a limited edition model that can't be purchased outside and it is pre-order only and it might sell out before long.
Space and organization was my problem. But I still saw so much potential, so for me it was just a matter of finding better organizational solutions to store it better. In my case, 4 book cases and a dozen Really Useful Boxes.
"A plucky little company that I really hope does make it one of these days..." Had me cracking up, lol. Thank you for your wonderful asides, they're always lovely little brief detours on our journey through your wargaming content
This year I have basically been reducing my unboxed minis. Last year after a surgery I had 6 unpainted blood bowl teams, about 30 unpainted space marines and then a few. What has worked for me is to every 3 months buy something new, IF I painted the previous box and some additional models. In the last batch I did Warband Khadgras Ravagers and then 8 additional models off my pile and now I am down to 2.5 blood bowl teams and 8 unpainted space marines. I suggest someone try buying something periodically and mixing it with the stuff from the pile and reduce it that way. If it goes well, before space marine 2.0 I will have no space marines and 1 unpainted blood bowl team :D Good luck to everyone. But it definitely is a years long process....
I hoard minis and what I found out for myself after 30 years: time is valuable. It’s far more valuable than buying a whole collection of minis. I always thought that if I‘m getting unemployed I‘d have the time for minis. Guess what, I was too spooked to get back to work and even months of lockdown only partially brought me back to the workbench. 3d printing will come anyway and collections might be huge. So I shifted to sell anything not assembled, from boxes to blisters to sprues and holding back anything that was assembled and painted. I’m not bad at details so I can also easily upgrade the painting quality in most cases.
Can confirm that Hordes Hydra was in my 2020 LVO swag bag ... can also confirm Uncle Atom as spotted at same con is impressively taller in real life than you'd expect. Loved this video Atom, keep it up! 🙂👍
I have a ‘one in, one out’ rule with my pile of shame. I don’t buy anything new until I have finished something old. And if you believe that, I have got a spare bridge…
I personally have a tub of disinterest. I exclusively field models that are fun to field. Not play, but that deploying them in itself is exciting. If models don't invoke that sort of feeling they just end up in the tub because there's no 'why' to painting them for me. Models do end up leaving the tub eventually for one reason or another though.
I don't really sell, but it's great that the 2nd hand market in this hobby is so big. I have built multiple large armies and found some of my favourite OOP models for a fraction of the price over the years
I’ve found that any painted model has potential for games. My initial investment in the Kill Team 2018 starter works well in the new version. With a few more gene stealers, I can use both original teams for the new one.
As someone that got into wargaming in the 90's and have jumped in and out of the hobby for years, I cannot tell you how many times I have heard friends say "I really regret selling my army". Once I have painted a model, I cannot sell it, either. Once painted, I have a connection with them such that I just can't let them go, even if they are painted horribly. I have many painted 4th edition Warhammer fantasy models that sit in a box, and every couple of years i'll sift through them and reminisce. They are hugely sentimental and some of the only possessions I have from back then. They bring back memories from that era that aren't even about the game, but the friends from that time, where we went, what we did, they are just such a cool little physical momento to have.
GW is (sort of) helpful when it comes to 'piles of shame'. This is one very few hobby that your stuff doesn't go down in value over time unless there is a massive re-design because GW keeps raising the prices so the perceived values kits creeps up over time. Just last year I sold my unused halves of the 5th and 6th ed starter boxes for what I bought the whole box for back then so all I had to do was store it in a closet and wait to regain those funds. A kit you paid $50 for years ago now costs $80. Folks are willing to pay you 40 or 50 for it to save themselves while you basically get out about what you paid.
Vintage gaming! Oh yes, I know that one. I’m actually working on (and have played the preliminary games of) a Tolkien game using the ~1975 Minifigs Mythical Earth figures. That’s where I started, so it’s definitely a nostalgia thing. But, the existence of that project has taken the energy from some other potential vintage projects, which should therefore be considered for release back into the market.
My "pile of shame" is actually not too big. I love having a few miniatures and kits sitting on standby, so that I'll never be without some miniatures to paint. To be honest, I enjoy the painting and end result more than the gaming. So I call it my "reserve".
This is me 100%. Modeling and Painting minis is cathartic to me and priority #1 when it comes to this hobby. Kill Team is about the only game I really ever play and even then it's not much.
I got rid of my entire pile cause it stresses me out. Took a few months break and now I'm going to buy into one project and finish it before getting more. I basically rebooted my hobby and I'm enjoying it more. I also stay away from new release hype and just do my own thing at my own pace. It's made the hobby enjoyable again.
I dug out my old skorne models around the time Reign in Hell came out, they made a great Reign in Hell Warband. So happy I had those old guys around and it was nice to paint up something I got so long ago. I do actually have a bunch of stuff I do need to sell, but ugh I cannot be bothered dealing with ebay and second-hand buyers.
When the pandemic hit I all but stopped buying minis, as a result I bottomed out my pile of shame around the start of 2021 - it was a good feeling. But I also got a 3D printer and my pile has now regrown to over 300 models as my painting mojo appears to have floated off somewhere - in 2018, I painted 1,081 minis, in 2022, I've so far painted 5. :/
Same here. Finished 5 models this year. Did hundreds in 20 and 19. Dont even know why but i just can't finish anythin. Lose motivation or can't even start.
yep got into printing. Its now probably worse than buying because you can print for pennies. I started Warmaster and found that I could print an entire army in 2 days but it took almost a month to paint everything. My one rule that I have adopted, ONLY PRINT WHEN PAINTING. Otherwise the unpainted pile grows too fast.
Fun fact: there were no Tomb Kings in WHF 4th edition, it was all "Undead" back then. Tomb Kings only became a thing in the early 2000s in 6th edition.
Pile management is definitely an essential skill that so few people ever talk about. As you said there are many perfectly valid strategies for it, but it's important for everyone to be conscious of and aim for an equilibrium they are comfortable with. For me, I moved a couple years ago, and I wanted to protect my pile. I got a bunch of clear plastic bins so nothing would get crushed. Seeing it all out in the light really brought home that I had let it get out of control. I kept the bins now and I only allow myself to buy something new if it fits in one of the bins. Something cool releasing but the bins are full? I better get to work building and painting then!
I have a partially-assembled Desert Hydra I got as a gift sitting on one of my Shelves of Potential, waiting to be a D&D model, incidentally. So this was especially relatable for me!
Tough topic but great considerations! Donating to a middle school games club felt wonderful. This challenge I think is more spiritual than we care to admit. Wish anybody and everybody the best! Shalom!
I'm in the process of moving to the south of the country. The # of unread books, comics, models, toys, games & equipment that got purged with a vengeance was impressive & yes, shameful. Sometimes you need your own "moment of truth/reality" where your forced to make a decision to keep or purge. I do feel better & thanks for wisdom.
I blame it on the shipping companies for my personal pile of shame: by the time the stuff arrives, i've already gone deep into a totally different project idea and already ordered more things. At least, all my projects fall on the same faction and scale range (humans, Guard, however you call it), so I have kitbashing material enough to survive to the next 3 or 4 Apocalypses. Yai to this!
If there was ever a silver lining about the COVID lock downs and my subsequent loss of employment due to losing my practice, it was that I was able to dive headfirst into my hobby. I was able to whittle down my 'Pile of Shame' to just a handful of models, and that was a great feeling. Between 2020-2022, I painted over 900 models--everything from 40K, Battletech, and Frostgrave all the way through my historical minis for Bolt Action and Check Your 6. When my gaming group and I were finally able to get back together, I was very well prepared.
For me, the “threshold” is if the army just sits there and will never actually be played. I’ve also come to realize that I need to stop starting new armies. Basically I’m sitting at 5 armies, and if I start another, I should sell an existing one.
I got tired of magnetizing all my minis. When I put them together I just glue the load out. Surprisingly the extra weapons (especially the heavy or special weapons) or decorative parts can be sold on eBay. My bits box was a 7ft book shelf. I cleared it and now filled it with books. Worth it
I recently got rid of about 6,000 mini's. all unbuilt of course. Now i have about 40 and 3 boardgames to paint and i actually managed to drag some stuff out to prime recently! which is a huge step because before i would just say to myself "Ill get to that soon"
Hi! I'm a part-time miniatures painter and part-time modelist (1/35 WW2 vehicles). And, yes, I have a whole (and I mean a WHOLE) bookcase full of model boxes waiting to be assembled and painted..!! So yes, I totally get your point..!! 😊
Thanks for this video. Another great topic for discussion! The best way I have heard it put, what the issue is for most of us, is that we buy these models thinking we are buying the time to build and paint them, much like people who buy books, thinking they are buying the time to read them. As for my own " pile of shame" I have enough to conceivably keep me building and painting for two lifetimes.....it get's a bit silly. Still....it's better to be spoilt for choice! Thanks again, and looking forward to perhaps discussing this topic further, on The Every Other Sunday Show, coming up!
If you want to call what I have a pile of shame, I personally wouldn't, because anything unopened I have is intended for an army that I'm currently working on. But I've got a full time job and I also run a Pathfinder game on weekends, so my time is limited. Also using some of those unopened models for Pathfinder using One Page Rules for armies. Eventually putting those monsters into play. I at least have a plan for assembly and paint for everything I have, I just need time, motivation, and energy. Also sitting on several boxes of the old version of skeleton warriors. I'm intending on using them for terrain bits, because skeletons.
On the pile of shame, I'm helping my mate move all his minis which gave me the impetus to start shedding things i know I'll never use. Because I've been collecting since the 90s i actually have some good value tied up in my oldhammer stuff! On letting go of painted models, i feel ya. Years ago I got out of warmachine and sold all my minis. I really wish I'd kept that one Warjack with the Ice Axe. It wasn't an award winning paint job but i loved the model amd was super proud of the paint job (clean but simple). Nearly ten years on i miss it :(
So. This is GW specific.. But over the past 30 years I've found that spending a pound now.. Saves a pound later.. And buying terrain now saves tens if not hundred of pounds later.. So I don't mind building up a decent pile of shame.. Especially if its terrain..
Yep it's a fomo or price strat by gw. It sucks but it's true. Easy solution ig you wanna save thousands of pounds on terrain? 3d print! One of the biggest reasons to even start 3d printing.
After almost 40yrs in this hobby I currently have 16 models to paint. Nothing will be bought until I'm down to single digits. Been like that for about 25yrs.
And then some of us use that phrase in jest, as a euphemism to say 'I really should paint these some day'. "Shame" should not always be taken literally....
Excellent advice all round. I do however, need a t-shirt that says 'those minis are Dave's problem now'. I reached a point a few years back where I did a massive clear-out of RPG and miniature games asking 'will I really, actually play this?' It felt a little ruthless, but painted and unpainted, entire armies, warbands, and other groupings left and the wallet was happy. Now, I've been able to look at just the two games that make me happy and buy minis at a reasonable rate and take the time to just enjoy painting. Lastly, the other joys of FB groups for selling are (i) no fees to gouge away your dollars, and (ii) the potential for trading online rather than selling. The flexibility is so great.
My pile pf shame was (unboxed) a stack that reached from floor to ceiling and had stuff in it dating back to 2007. I flung the whole lot on ebay last summer and converted it into every book, WD, boxed game and expansion that GW released from the period 1988 to 1991, plus several pounds of metal minis from the same era. So I basically traded my pile of shame for an older, scruffier pile of shame, but now I can pass this one off to my conscience as a "vintage collection" instead of a "heap of plastic tat"
A big ass Helldrake would make a cool visual centerpiece on terrain in a game. In casual you could have a rule where if you move units too close to its lair it has a chance to do dmg or something.
Thanks for the video. I just flipped a few sets earlier this week and now I’m going to apply what I made to different models. I’ve got to learn to let go of boxes and empty sprues that the models came in/on, now there is some wasted space.
I'm still in the process of chopping through my pile of shame. It was about 400 15 year old 40k orks and a load of 4th edition space marines. Only decided to paint it because it was sitting in some draws falling apart. I think I might shift it on once it's finished (About 100 to go) but for now I'm just enjoying seeing the mass of plastic I've got painted to a good level. I feel like the process of getting it completed is beneficial in a lot of ways. Being able to dedicate yourself to something you don't want to do and making something you can be proud of. I'm not buying anything new until it's all complete and I'll reward myself with a traitor guardsmen/chaos cultists army to go with my word bearers in a display cabinet.
I completely agree with your comment regarding the hobbyist's "threshhold" for the amount of unfinished minis. Mine is spacial and visual - amount of boxes, etc. That is when I take things to local gaming auctions and redestributing the reclaimed funds into new projects.
I love my little pile. Sometimes I take out a box or two and spend a while just gloating over my pretties. It's good to have a nice little gloat now and then.
This was a reaffirmation of what I'd been doing these past few weeks, offloading my big 40K stuff so I can focus on skirmish games like Kill Team and Warcry. As always, Uncle Atom, you are a great motivator, thank you.
Back when I was in uni we would have a tournament every year. Each player would put their shame pile in the pot, and whoever lost the most matches got stuck with it.
And if you can afford to get rid of them without getting a penny for it: I gave a couple of pile-minis to my daughter and her friends - training object for painting. They are really young, but still had a blast when painting their knights, horses and wizards pink 🙂. And when a local game shop offers some painting tutorials (or even better offer them to hold one of yourself) - donate them a training paint models - this way you not only teach the next generation, maybe you can "addict" one of them actually to *your* favourite game and you have a new gaming friend.
Came back to the hobby about 18 months ago. Made myself a promise then that I wouldn’t at any point going forward have more unpainted minis than I did then. Sold a bunch of them and raised money to buy a bunch of stuff I though I would end up painting. I’ve nearly finished the stuff I kept and have built some of the new models ready to paint. Also resolved to paint in the order they are purchased.
I have been feeling crappy and snowed-under and all manner of negativity about my stash for some time. Sometimes I wish I could just bring myself to ditch the lot and star again in a more organised manner. It is an odd co-incidence... that I should resolve myself to sort this lot out tonight, and as soon as I get home, here you are with this to discuss. Face it, I'm not going to live long enough to build all these damn things around me. Sometimes I think I don't want to.
I hope you can sort through your stuff and pick out at least two armies you are passionate about so you can have them to be able to fight each other ^_^ ❤
9:50 I had much the same with the old Wizkids D&D and Star Wars figs.They just DON'T fit together and the maker just doesn't issue the stern end of a Rodent-class.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!!!!! As a 45 year old having been in the hobby since 1990, I have a basement of shame. And now I have picked up smaller scale gaming and totally given up on GWs ruleset. (Look into alternative games and scales, the benefits are substantial) After reworking my hobby storage I have come to the realization that I may NEVER go back and even finish some of these armies and minis. And If I should pass away suddenly I have to leave it up to my family to dispose of ALL THIS STUFF. I have been seriously considering selling or disposing of my collection.
I get it, after the house burned down I tried rebuilding, but it was too space intensive so I painted and sold them Once I buy a house I'll start on a new army
Honestly, 3D printing has done wonders for keeping me from doing this. I only print a set number of models, and I have a rule that nothing else gets printed until the last set are done. Now, I occasionally do paint miniatures for Tabletop RPG'S on commission, and those take priority over whatever project I am working on. Like right now, I got three commissions all at once and all of my projects got stalled. So I have an unpainted pile sitting at my desk while I work on the commissions that actually have a time frame they have to be done in. My stuff can be done later, after all.
I was one of those rare unicorns who finished a box before buying a new one... And then I started kitbashing... Now the half empty boxes haunt my dreams, and my workspace... It could happen to youuuuuu!!!
I’ve operated on a “has it been over a year since I used anything in this game system” basis, up until recently. I’m down to just xwing, 40k, and two small business minis Burrows & Badgers and Relicblade. I probably would sell RB too because that was a whim with a friend and we’ve played once, but I can’t imagine the resell exists at all for an unknown. I’m keeping B&B no matter what even if it’s never used again just because I like those models too much (I just won’t buy more without a good reason)
@@hangarrat it’s a really fun game system too if you have a friend for recurring games. The campaign (full rules in the main book - the extra book is optional) allows for characters to progress based on the outcome of each skirmish. The game uses an rpg set of dice as each mini has its own “die statistic” for certain actions - a harder hitting animal rolls a die with potentially larger numbers for example (d12 versus d6) I hope someday I’ll get my future kids into it with my collection.
Pro tip from someone who has sold a lot of items online that involve meeting a stranger in person to make the swap: (at least in the USA) your local police department is usually perfectly happy to let people meet in their parking lot to make the exchange. Some even have dedicated parking spaces for it. So if you’re concerned about safety that is an excellent option. It’s also a good litmus test. If they’re not willing to meet you in a police department parking lot, they may not have the best of intentions in the first place.
I have two rooms of shame and potential. One is unpainted, one is still on the sprues. Most of the latter still in boxes, a lot bought during black fridays/discounts/conventions, sometimes at a laughable fraction of the original cost. And Wargames Atlantic has the SpaceNAM plastic kits on preorder. Yay me. We're back to Catachan.
We have a yearly game/model/ pop culture auction at my local game store. People bring in stuff for me to auction off with prices, folks bid, and the seller gets the earnings in store credit to be used in their next pile of potential. Works fairly well.
I think my biggest fear with my pile of shame is dying unexpectedly and my sisters just donate all the stuff I've spent thousands of dollars on instead of holding on to it to see if my nephews might take up the hobby one day lol
I had a couple of nice painted armies, but Covid killed me going to games, which killed my drive to paint. When I have a game coming up I paint like a madman.
I had this Gorka Morka Mutie Warband and the expansion rulebook laying around. Back when it came out, my brother and I wanted to play it with a good friend of ours, who had the core rulebook. But then the time came, when shool ended, he had to pick up a job and the contact fizzled out, since we had our shool stuff to do and he was on his job, so our schedules didn't align that well. We shelved the Gorka Morka thing for some day. Then my fried sadly decided to end his life. I sat on the Mutie Warband for the last 20 years and couldn't bring myself to sell them. Last year I took a look at lots of my stuff and I decided, that the needed to go. It did hurt me and it does still, but I hope someone will be able to make some nice memories and lead them into the battles I could not.
I like being able to build, prime, base coat, layer, etc at anytime. Therefore, I have numerous projects at various states of completion. I typically paint batches and it gets monotonous. Moving from painting to building is a good way to mix things up. That way I don't get bored with the hobby.
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Pile of shame is slowly converted to a smaller "Prime" pile. From there it's converted into a much smaller painted pile. It's a process. Like tracking a glacier's movement.
"Like tracking a glacier's movement." Totally made me chuckle. 😄
I will never get tired of hearing you being sensible, decent, and affirming. I always feel better after watching your videos and that's something I can't say about a lot of RUclips, frankly.
And then take no action, like a Hoard Boss!
I listen to him while jogging 😂😅
As laws of physics state: The higher the pile, higher the potential energy!
I don't like selling minis, but sometimes it's the best course of action.
It allows funding minis that I could actually paint.
Sooo, I should lift my pile of shame to the top level of a shelf, got it
@@bragoen You're pile should have a height above you're highest shelf level, or you're not really serious!
@@calvanoni5443 you mean the Ziggurat of Potential ?
And then make inappropriate sacrifices stop it, painted with blood!
"And now it's Dave's problem" literally had me laughing so hard I fell off my bed
Hey it's my problem? How did that happen?
People that don't buy new minis until they build and paint the ones they have exist, I'm one of those!
It is actually my motivation to finish my pile, when I see something new I want I make myself finish my current project in order to buy new minis.
ditto
I used to do this whole 'pile of shame' overbuying as a teenager, I have a ton of unpainted space wolves in another country. but as an adult, I've been able to exercise self control and I never buy new minis unless my current project is done/almost done. feels great honestly
Wish I could do that!
it takes a lot of self control, but it really pays off. I can't buy any of the new 30k boxes until all of my night lords kill team is painted. sure it sucks to not have models that I want when they come out, but this is a huge motivator for getting me to paint. wanting new models motivates me to get the ones I am working on done, so I can buy them.
I feel like as a hobby focused wargamer, it helps to think of your models like a sketchpad. you can buy another one when it's full, but there is no point in buying a new pad to draw in when you have so many empty pages.
it's also removed my guilt from buying plastic crack. I only ever buy two units at a time, and I always know when I do it's because I had a great time painting the last two boxes, and it's because I really want to work on the next two. it's removed any sort of impulsive buying, I just get what I really really want now. it's fantastic.
I really do believe anyone can be like this when it comes to the hobby. it just takes a conscious effort to change your relationship with purchasing. it becomes about the project, and not just buying cool minis.
@@cdwizzerd we're on the same page about the hobby. I have absolutely no shame or remorse about buying minis. You only live once!
I’m glad I’m not the only one. My wife is completely surprised by my ability to not get a new sets until I finish my current project. It took a lot time to build up that self control.
The 'pile of shame' isn't just a cute nick name for it anymore. It's shame on top of anxiety, guilt and feeling of being overwhelmed by the task of working out what is there and how to move it on.
I've come to terms with knowing that life isn't going to give the time that i was hoping to spend on the hobbies anymore - which I'm fine with as it leaves more time for family - and I'd be lying to myself (and the wife) that I will ever get the time for it again which isn't fair or a healthy perspective.
Just need to find the time to now spend on working on releasing the unused models back out to people that could hopeful give them more of a life I can.
Thanks Uncle Atom, will watch this video a few more times to keep me motivated as the journey continues. Thanks 🤝
Almost 3 years ago I took a pile of stuff to a local Warboot, had a blast, made over a grand selling stuff. Went to another a few months ago with the same result. In the years in between I never even opened the boxes those mins were in.
In the cold light of day, if you're never going to play the game again, sell it to someone who really wants it. I can't deny that I'm sad to see my Templars go for pennies on the pound, but they were literally worthless gathering dust in a box in the garage.
After that enormous cull of mins and ALL my terrain, I STILL have several 80 litre boxes left in the garage; Titanicus, never played, mostly painted, hope to get to a table one day. Space Hulk still playing, Dreadfleet (move along, nothing to see here), elf lady on a beetle, always wanted to paint her, will do this year, and a few other odds and sods.
I feel your pain I really do, but if you can keep only the armies you play and once your display case(s) are full, it's better to be one in one out
Final advice: when you go to a Warboot to sell your collection. Do. Not. Buy. Anything.
Right I'm off to scour Facebook for stuff I don't need but have to have!
quick question, what is a 'Warboot'?
@@HeadCannonPrime Like a carboot, but you sell (mainly Games Workshop) stuff you no longer paint/play. Sometimes historical stuff, and if you're real lucky a few board games. Highly recommend attending as a buyer or seller. It brings me joy to see my stuff getting a second life!
But uncle atom! I will one day find someone to play the Franco Prussian war with me. Do i NEED to let go of those models (yes)
Keep them mate.
Yeah. Me
I’m just getting started on a Franco-Prussian War project, so I’m sure that you will. :D
Keep them!
If your near me, I'll fight ya!
I had a box of Indomitus about 15% assembled and painted under my bed for over a year and a half and bought Cursed City and Blackstone Fortress and stuff was just sitting around. Threw Indomitus as it was on ebay, returned my Cursed City and told myself I'd finish Blackstone Fortress before I bought another big box. Got two small boxes after that (one completed, one 25% completed), but I'm down to five models left in BSF, just primed two of them this morning before leaving for work! New rule is finish a box, get a box (or don't get a box)
Does anyone else identify with the Scrooge feeling of having all the figures for a big project, including lots of rare and oop stuff, all sat in one big box. You get pleasure from getting it all out from time to time in the knowledge that ‘one day’ you’ll get round to it!
Yes 👏
I do actually.
It's a sense of superiority! 😉
Yes. Now I'm laughing building an MKII only force while everyone moans they're OOP.
I have come round the bend and now looking at all the stuff I didn't do fills me with regret. I have at least 2,500 pts of orcs painted and another 2,000 sitting partially done for the last 4 years. Every time I see them I get this sick feeling of waste since I don't even play orks or even 40k anymore.
As a 3D printer, my pile of shame(potential) isn't only the half box of MCP, 800 pts of space marines, misc DnD minis, and other whatnots I thought looked cool at the FLGS... but also the 300gig and growing STL folder.
I must admit, I'm one those "unicorn". I have no pile of shame. There are grey models in my bits box, but as I play Warcry, I have no need of 10 dire wolves. I painted 3, and the remaining 7 are bits.
I have no pile of shame, my problem is i have too many armies. Not enough space or time to play them all lol.
@@Alex-dr1ez That's a problem! I try to stay with only 5-6 bands max. And sell what I don't play anymore.
It's also a good way to finance your hobby.
@@sebastiencarrieres8825 well it would be one thing if it was small warbands, unfortunately for me its full armies.. I just get so invested in it and then as you naturally swap to other armies for variety. Hard to sell at that point.
I mean, buying a pack of 10 wolves to only use 3 and dismantle the rest is just as bad as buying an army and only painting under a third of it.
That example you gave states you have more grey then painted but since it's a small scale you seem to feel exclusive. Quite funny 😁 lol.
"A plucky little company...".
Lol the dry laugh I needed this morning.
I've done a couple of short videos on the pile. One thing that helped me reduce it was filming myself painting, as it motivated me to get started. It took a while to not give every model the hero treatment though.
Not all of them end up posted as full painting videos, but I don't feel bad about taking a break from painting now.
TRUTH: Having a 3d printer changes the concept of “pile of shame”. It reduces FOMO and allows me to focus my attention and on painting time.
Sadly I still get FOMO...but that's due to Patreon deals for STLs being so good (I can get these 20+ models for $10 this month...but if I wait it'll cost $50). Even worse I now not only have a pile of shame...but an almost 400gb "hard drive of shame" XD
@@demon1103 *chuckles in 2 terrabytes*
Way to create FOMO about 3D printing!
@@biobasher I wish it was just 2 terabytes. I can't stop downloading. I may have a real problem.
@@badgerwijohnson4081 you need to get excited about creating and fielding one army or game or scenario. This way you divert your attention from horsing the next game and actually start executing and the painting, crafting, world building, and best of all …game playing. Set a date in the future with friends and work towards that. Good luck mate!
I'm currently in a phase of finishing every project I have built before I build anything else. So far I've painted half of AoS Dominion, two flames of war armies, half a bolt action army, a dystopian wars starter, and still have a necromunda crew, a Warhammer underworlds box, an invictor, and a few other things.
Pile of shame is also occasionally still growing but gradually getting there.
This has been my approach lately too. I’m still buying models every now and then, but I try my very best to paint and finish more models than I buy
I'm new to the hobby, a few months, about 30 minis painted, some terrain and so on, but so far I managed to only buy minis when I'm done (or almost done) with the previous box and I intend to keep it that way :P
Good job but as the above says, you'll most likely get pulled in if it becomes your main hobby due to dumb fomo tactics.
However if you keep in mint condition you'll break even or make money so it's fine. Still, sticking to a plan is always best just... hard haha
Then GW will release a big box set for YOUR army with a limited edition model that can't be purchased outside and it is pre-order only and it might sell out before long.
Once a model is assembled and I've put some paint on it... I will NEVER part with it. That's just too much work lol
Give it 30 years or so. When your kids start asking what they are supposed to do with all this stuff when you die it changes your perspective.
Well, but then it is no longer part of the pile of shame, so...
@@thatsheresy Eugenicist used to be an insult. And its ideas like that that are turning the world bad.
Space and organization was my problem. But I still saw so much potential, so for me it was just a matter of finding better organizational solutions to store it better. In my case, 4 book cases and a dozen Really Useful Boxes.
"A plucky little company that I really hope does make it one of these days..." Had me cracking up, lol. Thank you for your wonderful asides, they're always lovely little brief detours on our journey through your wargaming content
This year I have basically been reducing my unboxed minis. Last year after a surgery I had 6 unpainted blood bowl teams, about 30 unpainted space marines and then a few. What has worked for me is to every 3 months buy something new, IF I painted the previous box and some additional models. In the last batch I did Warband Khadgras Ravagers and then 8 additional models off my pile and now I am down to 2.5 blood bowl teams and 8 unpainted space marines. I suggest someone try buying something periodically and mixing it with the stuff from the pile and reduce it that way. If it goes well, before space marine 2.0 I will have no space marines and 1 unpainted blood bowl team :D Good luck to everyone. But it definitely is a years long process....
I hoard minis and what I found out for myself after 30 years: time is valuable. It’s far more valuable than buying a whole collection of minis. I always thought that if I‘m getting unemployed I‘d have the time for minis. Guess what, I was too spooked to get back to work and even months of lockdown only partially brought me back to the workbench. 3d printing will come anyway and collections might be huge. So I shifted to sell anything not assembled, from boxes to blisters to sprues and holding back anything that was assembled and painted. I’m not bad at details so I can also easily upgrade the painting quality in most cases.
Can confirm that Hordes Hydra was in my 2020 LVO swag bag ... can also confirm Uncle Atom as spotted at same con is impressively taller in real life than you'd expect.
Loved this video Atom, keep it up! 🙂👍
I have a ‘one in, one out’ rule with my pile of shame. I don’t buy anything new until I have finished something old.
And if you believe that, I have got a spare bridge…
I personally have a tub of disinterest.
I exclusively field models that are fun to field. Not play, but that deploying them in itself is exciting.
If models don't invoke that sort of feeling they just end up in the tub because there's no 'why' to painting them for me.
Models do end up leaving the tub eventually for one reason or another though.
I have a general rule of if I haven't painted it in a year it goes. Really helps keep the pile down.
I don't really sell, but it's great that the 2nd hand market in this hobby is so big. I have built multiple large armies and found some of my favourite OOP models for a fraction of the price over the years
I’ve found that any painted model has potential for games. My initial investment in the Kill Team 2018 starter works well in the new version. With a few more gene stealers, I can use both original teams for the new one.
As someone that got into wargaming in the 90's and have jumped in and out of the hobby for years, I cannot tell you how many times I have heard friends say "I really regret selling my army". Once I have painted a model, I cannot sell it, either. Once painted, I have a connection with them such that I just can't let them go, even if they are painted horribly. I have many painted 4th edition Warhammer fantasy models that sit in a box, and every couple of years i'll sift through them and reminisce. They are hugely sentimental and some of the only possessions I have from back then. They bring back memories from that era that aren't even about the game, but the friends from that time, where we went, what we did, they are just such a cool little physical momento to have.
GW is (sort of) helpful when it comes to 'piles of shame'. This is one very few hobby that your stuff doesn't go down in value over time unless there is a massive re-design because GW keeps raising the prices so the perceived values kits creeps up over time. Just last year I sold my unused halves of the 5th and 6th ed starter boxes for what I bought the whole box for back then so all I had to do was store it in a closet and wait to regain those funds. A kit you paid $50 for years ago now costs $80. Folks are willing to pay you 40 or 50 for it to save themselves while you basically get out about what you paid.
Vintage gaming! Oh yes, I know that one. I’m actually working on (and have played the preliminary games of) a Tolkien game using the ~1975 Minifigs Mythical Earth figures. That’s where I started, so it’s definitely a nostalgia thing. But, the existence of that project has taken the energy from some other potential vintage projects, which should therefore be considered for release back into the market.
"plucky little company" I really enjoy your style of humor
"Dave, take this. It's your problem now." 😅
My "pile of shame" is actually not too big. I love having a few miniatures and kits sitting on standby, so that I'll never be without some miniatures to paint.
To be honest, I enjoy the painting and end result more than the gaming.
So I call it my "reserve".
This is me 100%. Modeling and Painting minis is cathartic to me and priority #1 when it comes to this hobby. Kill Team is about the only game I really ever play and even then it's not much.
I got rid of my entire pile cause it stresses me out. Took a few months break and now I'm going to buy into one project and finish it before getting more. I basically rebooted my hobby and I'm enjoying it more. I also stay away from new release hype and just do my own thing at my own pace. It's made the hobby enjoyable again.
I dug out my old skorne models around the time Reign in Hell came out, they made a great Reign in Hell Warband. So happy I had those old guys around and it was nice to paint up something I got so long ago.
I do actually have a bunch of stuff I do need to sell, but ugh I cannot be bothered dealing with ebay and second-hand buyers.
When the pandemic hit I all but stopped buying minis, as a result I bottomed out my pile of shame around the start of 2021 - it was a good feeling. But I also got a 3D printer and my pile has now regrown to over 300 models as my painting mojo appears to have floated off somewhere - in 2018, I painted 1,081 minis, in 2022, I've so far painted 5. :/
Same here. Finished 5 models this year. Did hundreds in 20 and 19. Dont even know why but i just can't finish anythin. Lose motivation or can't even start.
yep got into printing. Its now probably worse than buying because you can print for pennies. I started Warmaster and found that I could print an entire army in 2 days but it took almost a month to paint everything. My one rule that I have adopted, ONLY PRINT WHEN PAINTING. Otherwise the unpainted pile grows too fast.
Fun fact: there were no Tomb Kings in WHF 4th edition, it was all "Undead" back then. Tomb Kings only became a thing in the early 2000s in 6th edition.
I recently gave my nephew my entire collection of 40K Orks. At least I still get to see my abandoned projects that way.
Pile management is definitely an essential skill that so few people ever talk about. As you said there are many perfectly valid strategies for it, but it's important for everyone to be conscious of and aim for an equilibrium they are comfortable with.
For me, I moved a couple years ago, and I wanted to protect my pile. I got a bunch of clear plastic bins so nothing would get crushed. Seeing it all out in the light really brought home that I had let it get out of control. I kept the bins now and I only allow myself to buy something new if it fits in one of the bins. Something cool releasing but the bins are full? I better get to work building and painting then!
I have a partially-assembled Desert Hydra I got as a gift sitting on one of my Shelves of Potential, waiting to be a D&D model, incidentally. So this was especially relatable for me!
"I've also heard of Bigfoots and Chupacabras, so..." 🤣
Tough topic but great considerations! Donating to a middle school games club felt wonderful. This challenge I think is more spiritual than we care to admit. Wish anybody and everybody the best! Shalom!
Just as I'm getting ready to sell off part of my backlog... What timing!
I'm in the process of moving to the south of the country. The # of unread books, comics, models, toys, games & equipment that got purged with a vengeance was impressive & yes, shameful. Sometimes you need your own "moment of truth/reality" where your forced to make a decision to keep or purge. I do feel better & thanks for wisdom.
Nope never, I'm never letting go 😀 Actually just purchased the 4th Edition Starter set.
Me: At least I don't have a pile of shame!
Also me: Looks over at 3 kits that are literally still in the shrink wrap...
I blame it on the shipping companies for my personal pile of shame: by the time the stuff arrives, i've already gone deep into a totally different project idea and already ordered more things. At least, all my projects fall on the same faction and scale range (humans, Guard, however you call it), so I have kitbashing material enough to survive to the next 3 or 4 Apocalypses. Yai to this!
If there was ever a silver lining about the COVID lock downs and my subsequent loss of employment due to losing my practice, it was that I was able to dive headfirst into my hobby. I was able to whittle down my 'Pile of Shame' to just a handful of models, and that was a great feeling.
Between 2020-2022, I painted over 900 models--everything from 40K, Battletech, and Frostgrave all the way through my historical minis for Bolt Action and Check Your 6. When my gaming group and I were finally able to get back together, I was very well prepared.
For me, the “threshold” is if the army just sits there and will never actually be played.
I’ve also come to realize that I need to stop starting new armies. Basically I’m sitting at 5 armies, and if I start another, I should sell an existing one.
I got tired of magnetizing all my minis. When I put them together I just glue the load out. Surprisingly the extra weapons (especially the heavy or special weapons) or decorative parts can be sold on eBay. My bits box was a 7ft book shelf. I cleared it and now filled it with books. Worth it
I recently got rid of about 6,000 mini's. all unbuilt of course. Now i have about 40 and 3 boardgames to paint and i actually managed to drag some stuff out to prime recently! which is a huge step because before i would just say to myself "Ill get to that soon"
Hi! I'm a part-time miniatures painter and part-time modelist (1/35 WW2 vehicles).
And, yes, I have a whole (and I mean a WHOLE) bookcase full of model boxes waiting to be assembled and painted..!!
So yes, I totally get your point..!! 😊
Thanks for this video. Another great topic for discussion! The best way I have heard it put, what the issue is for most of us, is that we buy these models thinking we are buying the time to build and paint them, much like people who buy books, thinking they are buying the time to read them.
As for my own " pile of shame" I have enough to conceivably keep me building and painting for two lifetimes.....it get's a bit silly. Still....it's better to be spoilt for choice!
Thanks again, and looking forward to perhaps discussing this topic further, on The Every Other Sunday Show, coming up!
If you want to call what I have a pile of shame, I personally wouldn't, because anything unopened I have is intended for an army that I'm currently working on. But I've got a full time job and I also run a Pathfinder game on weekends, so my time is limited. Also using some of those unopened models for Pathfinder using One Page Rules for armies. Eventually putting those monsters into play. I at least have a plan for assembly and paint for everything I have, I just need time, motivation, and energy.
Also sitting on several boxes of the old version of skeleton warriors. I'm intending on using them for terrain bits, because skeletons.
Me too! Never could sell a painted model. Given quite few as presents but never sold one.
On the pile of shame, I'm helping my mate move all his minis which gave me the impetus to start shedding things i know I'll never use.
Because I've been collecting since the 90s i actually have some good value tied up in my oldhammer stuff!
On letting go of painted models, i feel ya. Years ago I got out of warmachine and sold all my minis. I really wish I'd kept that one Warjack with the Ice Axe. It wasn't an award winning paint job but i loved the model amd was super proud of the paint job (clean but simple). Nearly ten years on i miss it :(
So. This is GW specific.. But over the past 30 years I've found that spending a pound now.. Saves a pound later.. And buying terrain now saves tens if not hundred of pounds later.. So I don't mind building up a decent pile of shame.. Especially if its terrain..
That does seem to be the way we’re trained by GW - and I’m guilty of doing the same thing. Thanks for watching!
Yep it's a fomo or price strat by gw. It sucks but it's true.
Easy solution ig you wanna save thousands of pounds on terrain? 3d print! One of the biggest reasons to even start 3d printing.
Getting a 3d printer COMPLETELY changes that perspective. In fact it made me realize I don't need GW for my hobby AT ALL!
After almost 40yrs in this hobby I currently have 16 models to paint. Nothing will be bought until I'm down to single digits. Been like that for about 25yrs.
And then some of us use that phrase in jest, as a euphemism to say 'I really should paint these some day'. "Shame" should not always be taken literally....
Excellent advice all round. I do however, need a t-shirt that says 'those minis are Dave's problem now'.
I reached a point a few years back where I did a massive clear-out of RPG and miniature games asking 'will I really, actually play this?' It felt a little ruthless, but painted and unpainted, entire armies, warbands, and other groupings left and the wallet was happy. Now, I've been able to look at just the two games that make me happy and buy minis at a reasonable rate and take the time to just enjoy painting.
Lastly, the other joys of FB groups for selling are (i) no fees to gouge away your dollars, and (ii) the potential for trading online rather than selling. The flexibility is so great.
''Pile of Potential'' love it... I actually get freaked out if there isn't enough stuff in my to do list :)
My pile pf shame was (unboxed) a stack that reached from floor to ceiling and had stuff in it dating back to 2007. I flung the whole lot on ebay last summer and converted it into every book, WD, boxed game and expansion that GW released from the period 1988 to 1991, plus several pounds of metal minis from the same era. So I basically traded my pile of shame for an older, scruffier pile of shame, but now I can pass this one off to my conscience as a "vintage collection" instead of a "heap of plastic tat"
A big ass Helldrake would make a cool visual centerpiece on terrain in a game. In casual you could have a rule where if you move units too close to its lair it has a chance to do dmg or something.
I dont have a lot of in the box stuff, my vice is partially painted. just tubs and tubs of minis with varying levels of paint on them.
Thanks for the video. I just flipped a few sets earlier this week and now I’m going to apply what I made to different models. I’ve got to learn to let go of boxes and empty sprues that the models came in/on, now there is some wasted space.
I'm still in the process of chopping through my pile of shame.
It was about 400 15 year old 40k orks and a load of 4th edition space marines.
Only decided to paint it because it was sitting in some draws falling apart.
I think I might shift it on once it's finished
(About 100 to go) but for now I'm just enjoying seeing the mass of plastic I've got painted to a good level. I feel like the process of getting it completed is beneficial in a lot of ways. Being able to dedicate yourself to something you don't want to do and making something you can be proud of.
I'm not buying anything new until it's all complete and I'll reward myself with a traitor guardsmen/chaos cultists army to go with my word bearers in a display cabinet.
I completely agree with your comment regarding the hobbyist's "threshhold" for the amount of unfinished minis. Mine is spacial and visual - amount of boxes, etc. That is when I take things to local gaming auctions and redestributing the reclaimed funds into new projects.
I retired from collecting when I finished my primary army, I still actively play games with it, but I have not had any new models in over a year.
You are right, I have held on to this resentment for too long, I should forgive my fath-oh you were talking about miniatures.
I love my little pile. Sometimes I take out a box or two and spend a while just gloating over my pretties.
It's good to have a nice little gloat now and then.
This was a reaffirmation of what I'd been doing these past few weeks, offloading my big 40K stuff so I can focus on skirmish games like Kill Team and Warcry. As always, Uncle Atom, you are a great motivator, thank you.
The unpainted grey. always on my mind. when to sleep i lay, always a new idea for design.
“Bartertown.” Obi Wan gazed into the distance. “That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time.”
I'm feeling personally identified by this video. I'm slowly working through my skirmish games - my poor 40k orks are years away.
Having a pile of hobby pressure was clashing with my anxiety and shipping it on really helped me
Back when I was in uni we would have a tournament every year. Each player would put their shame pile in the pot, and whoever lost the most matches got stuck with it.
And if you can afford to get rid of them without getting a penny for it: I gave a couple of pile-minis to my daughter and her friends - training object for painting. They are really young, but still had a blast when painting their knights, horses and wizards pink 🙂. And when a local game shop offers some painting tutorials (or even better offer them to hold one of yourself) - donate them a training paint models - this way you not only teach the next generation, maybe you can "addict" one of them actually to *your* favourite game and you have a new gaming friend.
I mean this in the nicest way possible; You are a plastic crack dealer. The first one is free! LOL
Came back to the hobby about 18 months ago. Made myself a promise then that I wouldn’t at any point going forward have more unpainted minis than I did then. Sold a bunch of them and raised money to buy a bunch of stuff I though I would end up painting. I’ve nearly finished the stuff I kept and have built some of the new models ready to paint. Also resolved to paint in the order they are purchased.
Sadly mine & my nephew's "PoS." share a "20' Container of Shame!'" We can't die, we've got a pile to build, paint & play with!
I have been feeling crappy and snowed-under and all manner of negativity about my stash for some time. Sometimes I wish I could just bring myself to ditch the lot and star again in a more organised manner. It is an odd co-incidence... that I should resolve myself to sort this lot out tonight, and as soon as I get home, here you are with this to discuss.
Face it, I'm not going to live long enough to build all these damn things around me. Sometimes I think I don't want to.
I hope you can sort through your stuff and pick out at least two armies you are passionate about so you can have them to be able to fight each other ^_^ ❤
@@viewtifuljoe4412 Shouldn't be too hard, given how Gaslands teams are so expensive, a team could be nought but two cars...
9:50 I had much the same with the old Wizkids D&D and Star Wars figs.They just DON'T fit together and the maker just doesn't issue the stern end of a Rodent-class.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!!!!! As a 45 year old having been in the hobby since 1990, I have a basement of shame. And now I have picked up smaller scale gaming and totally given up on GWs ruleset. (Look into alternative games and scales, the benefits are substantial) After reworking my hobby storage I have come to the realization that I may NEVER go back and even finish some of these armies and minis. And If I should pass away suddenly I have to leave it up to my family to dispose of ALL THIS STUFF. I have been seriously considering selling or disposing of my collection.
I get it, after the house burned down I tried rebuilding, but it was too space intensive so I painted and sold them
Once I buy a house I'll start on a new army
Honestly, 3D printing has done wonders for keeping me from doing this. I only print a set number of models, and I have a rule that nothing else gets printed until the last set are done. Now, I occasionally do paint miniatures for Tabletop RPG'S on commission, and those take priority over whatever project I am working on. Like right now, I got three commissions all at once and all of my projects got stalled. So I have an unpainted pile sitting at my desk while I work on the commissions that actually have a time frame they have to be done in. My stuff can be done later, after all.
My Gray’vard merely awaits to be brought to life.
I was one of those rare unicorns who finished a box before buying a new one... And then I started kitbashing... Now the half empty boxes haunt my dreams, and my workspace... It could happen to youuuuuu!!!
Great vid Uncle Atom cheers. Will share this with a friend who needs to hear it.
I’ve operated on a “has it been over a year since I used anything in this game system” basis, up until recently. I’m down to just xwing, 40k, and two small business minis Burrows & Badgers and Relicblade. I probably would sell RB too because that was a whim with a friend and we’ve played once, but I can’t imagine the resell exists at all for an unknown. I’m keeping B&B no matter what even if it’s never used again just because I like those models too much (I just won’t buy more without a good reason)
Never heard of Burrows & Badgers. Now I have. Now I want to buy those cute models. Thanks a lot. 🤦🏻
@@hangarrat it’s a really fun game system too if you have a friend for recurring games. The campaign (full rules in the main book - the extra book is optional) allows for characters to progress based on the outcome of each skirmish. The game uses an rpg set of dice as each mini has its own “die statistic” for certain actions - a harder hitting animal rolls a die with potentially larger numbers for example (d12 versus d6)
I hope someday I’ll get my future kids into it with my collection.
Pro tip from someone who has sold a lot of items online that involve meeting a stranger in person to make the swap: (at least in the USA) your local police department is usually perfectly happy to let people meet in their parking lot to make the exchange. Some even have dedicated parking spaces for it. So if you’re concerned about safety that is an excellent option. It’s also a good litmus test. If they’re not willing to meet you in a police department parking lot, they may not have the best of intentions in the first place.
I have two rooms of shame and potential. One is unpainted, one is still on the sprues. Most of the latter still in boxes, a lot bought during black fridays/discounts/conventions, sometimes at a laughable fraction of the original cost.
And Wargames Atlantic has the SpaceNAM plastic kits on preorder. Yay me. We're back to Catachan.
We have a yearly game/model/ pop culture auction at my local game store. People bring in stuff for me to auction off with prices, folks bid, and the seller gets the earnings in store credit to be used in their next pile of potential.
Works fairly well.
I think my biggest fear with my pile of shame is dying unexpectedly and my sisters just donate all the stuff I've spent thousands of dollars on instead of holding on to it to see if my nephews might take up the hobby one day lol
I had a couple of nice painted armies, but Covid killed me going to games, which killed my drive to paint. When I have a game coming up I paint like a madman.
I had this Gorka Morka Mutie Warband and the expansion rulebook laying around. Back when it came out, my brother and I wanted to play it with a good friend of ours, who had the core rulebook. But then the time came, when shool ended, he had to pick up a job and the contact fizzled out, since we had our shool stuff to do and he was on his job, so our schedules didn't align that well. We shelved the Gorka Morka thing for some day. Then my fried sadly decided to end his life.
I sat on the Mutie Warband for the last 20 years and couldn't bring myself to sell them. Last year I took a look at lots of my stuff and I decided, that the needed to go. It did hurt me and it does still, but I hope someone will be able to make some nice memories and lead them into the battles I could not.
I like being able to build, prime, base coat, layer, etc at anytime. Therefore, I have numerous projects at various states of completion. I typically paint batches and it gets monotonous. Moving from painting to building is a good way to mix things up. That way I don't get bored with the hobby.
When I was a kid I was a "don't buy another box until the last one is finished" player because I didn't have the money to buy multiple boxes at once.
Oooh look at that privateer press box. Love it.